/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Good morning sirs more copyright infringement

>>6414728
>using krita at all

>becoming a janny who cleans up algorithmic shit
Sad

>>6414736
if you don't improve to the top .001% of artists, then you will be stuck to basically being an AI tard wrangler. Don't hate the player hate the capitalistic system that is a race to the bottom in reducing labor costs by any means possible.

>>6414732
as opposed to Adobe kikery shit?
>>6414729
>muh copyright infringement
The argument of tech illiterates that will never go anywhere and be immediately shot down in any court.

>>6414745
What is this butthurt?
HAHAHA

>>6414745
well anon I could only assume your a 3rd worlders or a scammer if you don't want to know basic shit about the industry your getting into
plus are one of the niggas who said stay your lane since you have say posting style of some ai garbage following your shitpost

>>6414745
uh oh somebody woke up on the wrong side of the designated shitting street

>>6414728
>your "workflow" is attempting to make an image cherrypicked out of a flood of meaningless, directionless, generic swill regurgitated by a machine somewhat palatable by fixing all of the horrible lovecraftian artifacts
>It's still meaningless, directionless, generic swill
>this is all AI "artists" can ever aspire to and hope for
Sad!
Wake me up when they develop a plugin to add the SOVL that your garbage so desperately needs. Or when I can actually create whatever I can imagine, how I imagine it, like I can do by hand. Because I sure don't want any of what you're selling right now!

>>6414728
Is Krita any good? I'm using CSP but considering switching to something else due to pricing changes

>>6414793
It's free so try it

>>6414745
>Don't hate the player hate the capitalistic system that is a race to the bottom in reducing labor costs by any means possible.
Why do we not hate both? The player who is a cog in the capitalism machinery nurtures the system.

>>6414793
Krita is very good, use it. Krita is very alike to CSP.

>>6414793
Krita is good.
There also SAI if you want another tool.

>>6414808
>>6414809
How's it with brushes for krita? CSP has the nice feature of marketplace, is it also as easy to find brushes for krita?

>>6414765
I got no skin in the AI game or digital art for that matter, I trad paint in oils as a hobby. The most use I have for AI is the novelty of generating coomer anime art and I guess the unintentional mass ass devastation that many of the schizo /ic/ and twitter digital artist get when posting AI generated work.

Kritia being shit or not really doesn't bother me, its literally a tool now with AI plug-ins.
Do I predict commercial artists will be out of a job? I don't know I can't predict the future, possibly though as a whole I do see a consolidation of creatives.
>>6414793
At this point I find anything better than dealing with adobes terrible subscription based license kikery CC botnet.

>>6414745
Are you the same loser who admitted scamming people with your ai "commissions"?

>>6414728
lol how is this any faster than color pick/paintover?

>>6414745
Under communism people would worship up, Non-AI artist bros

>>6414820
Its basically pick/paint over but can specify detailed changes i.e I want to change her dress into a swimsuit. Basically "mask" over the dress and let the ai change that component of the picture.

>workflow
you're funny
keep licking the cum off jamalbot's dick, I'm sure you'll improve tons and become a great artist

Even tard wrangling the AI takes more skill than the average proompter has, I'm not worried.

If you're good enough to redraw an entire hand, fix a hairline, eye asymmetry, or whatever crazy shit is happening in the background, you're probably already not a pajeet.

I'll get the pitchfork when we inevitably find out the module saves your strokes and exports to train a new layer of autoencoder it'll strap on the previous one to learn how to fix itself

I don't get how "hey just take this output and do some changes to the obvious fuckups here and there" helps most competent artists who obsess over every detail during every phase of their work.

>>6414870
That's just how nig/g/ers think art is made, they actually believe the "draw the rest of the owl" is real.

>>6414870
It makes sense for people who have never made art and think that it's just about getting pretty end results

>>6414870
You realize you can do this at any step, like you can take a completely AI generated image tard wangle it or edit it w/e or take an image you made or someone else's and change aspects/mask your composition. I mean as one said its really a super version of pick/paintover.

>>6414873
This comment says alot that the good people of /g/ have made more art in six months than /ic/ has in its entire existence.

>>6414895
Why don't you use a model not trained on the danbooru archive?

>>6414895
Do you google a pretty image and say that you "made art"?

>>6414870
The only thing I can see this used for is idea generating and even for that it's garbage. The only people using AI for this are bottom barrel commission-types that would never make it in any triple A or even established indie company.

>>6414895
But y’all didn’t draw/make it. You just generated it.

>>6414906
Yea I can see how it could be useful for moodboards or to get ideas for a composition, though you can also achieve that by simply googling references

>>6414908
So?

A burger delivered through Doordash tastes the same as one you make.

>>6415046
then don't claim that you made it
>A burger delivered through Doordash tastes the same as one you make
kek so you don't cook either

>>6415046
>can't appreciate art
>can't even appreciate food
Holy cope, the absolute state of redditors. What do you even live for?

>>6415046
>food analogy

>>6415046
So the point being that you didn’t make the burger.

Also how fucking bad are you at cooking that a homemade burger is the same quality as a delivered mcdicks?

Is there something similar to Canvas but with actual intelligence? The canvas beta seems barebones as fuck now, it cant even properly read layers as different objects. Is there a plugin or program I can use to teach AI how to interpret my strokes and shapes?

>>6415087
Yes, you first have to download "shitting in the toilet" plugin.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm so replaced... Feelin' so replaced... Ooooooooooooh.... AI killed me... Aaaaaaaaaaaah
;__;

>>6415102
eating cricket burgers in my shipping container tiny home rn

>>6415087
So OP's plugin is basically a far more advanced version of that. You can even set it to ignore layers if you so chose or interpret layers at your discretion. It doesn't interpret your strokes or style in anyway in real time since that would be a form of training but an interesting idea. That would be something more to Art Autopilot.

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>>6414745
you like being dommed don't you anon?

>>6414736
topkek AIcunts are the worse kind of jannies now lel

>>6415046
kys redditor, you are not creating anything, the Ai just photobash what it has on its database kek

>>6414728
to "fix" mistakes you still have to be a competent artist without making more
at that point, why would you bother using ai

>>6415160
I haven't been keeping up, why are they called redditors now?

>>6415140
>>6415100
>going through installation guide
>going through dependencies
>it's all just commands for Linux terminals
>no mention on what to do in Windows
>"Run webui-user.bat from Windows Explorer as normal, non-administrator, user."
>no mention on where to get this mysterious programm
>mentions directory and paths
>without establishing where those would even be found

>>6414815
Krita has a very good brush engine that just happens to be super fucking bugged at the edges and a fucking abysmal brush manage system.
It's marveling how good the programming part of it is compared to how bad the usability is. Truly completely separate development skillsets.

>>6414728
How does the plug in compare with a local install of stable diffusion? Is it missing any features? Does it require the same amount of gpu?

>>6415180
same thing it uses the Stable diffusion API as a plugin for krita.

>>6415185
So in other words, if I can't run a local install on my computer then the Krita plugin won't work either?

>>6415188
that is correct.

>>6415189
Damn. Feeling pretty gatekept right now.

>>6415160
You need to go draw already photobash-kun instead of obsessing over keanu.

>trying to install the thing on windows according to wiki
>webui-user.bat will not launch successfully
>"exit code 106"
>"no pyvenv.cfg file"
what do? The troubleshoot page and dependecies page contains nothing concerning that.

>>6415220
Not the right board to ask

>>6415140
Too bad it can't make you learn how to draw.

>>6415220
>what do?
learn to draw instead of looking for crutches like a cripple you nigger

>>6415247
I hope you also only use physical media because people called digital a crutch too. same with photography, and photographers called retouching and adjusting in digital photography a crutch too.
Learn to use tools as they arise or get left behind. Happened literally every time in art.

>AIfag says he "fixes" an AI image
>its still has blurry anatomy and clothing that randomly blends into each other or disappears
Every fucking time.

>>6415263
To fix AI, you better just learn to draw and redo everything.

>>6415252
>Learn to use tools as they arise or get left behind.
There are plenty of art circles who don't give a fuck about digital anything and are doing just fine. What you said only applies to people who want to work in shitty corporate "art".

>>6414817
>claiming to be an artist while saying you're satisfied with 6-finger abominations and not posting your work
You AIfags always suck at larping.

>>6414745
>filename is a prompt that says "opened eyes"
>picture has closed eyes
Every day you shills prove how laughably incompetent this shit is.

>>6415282
Not to mention it looks like a bootleg photoshop advertisement.

>>6415263
Nobody cares about that though. People see colorful image, they click like. Simple as.

>>6415276
>not having an eldritch hand fetish
ok boomer

>>6415290
>updoot addiction
Kek

>>6415299
It's the reddit mindset

>>6415290
Farming likes from the dumb masses is a pathetic motivation to be an artist

/ic/ can't draw, they might need AI to help them out

>>6414728
AI is currently 100% focused in automation in a really stupid way. AI devs are so focused in letting the AI do it all, that they forgot this stance can severely limit control and creativity of the user. They need to give options for those that don't want to relying on the random output AI generates. It's not a proper tool right now.

I know many artists would still not accept this at first, but a more interactive AI system that can be interactively edited (not with prompts) and controled by the user would be the only viable way to make AI be useful for artists and give them a vast advantage over someone simply prompting and automating the whole process.

>>6415300
They need to be super hecking validated guys!

>>6415290
Followers > likes.
A favorite artist of mine got their doujinshi ranked #1 in sales again. Monkeys with typewriting typing infinite AI prompts thinking they can compete is sad.

>>6415309
It is possible to compete once they estabilish a proper following

>>6415290
Took you hours of dumpster diving for this? The most attention you'll get is from your usual circlejerk of techies still swindling nfts.

>>6415305
imagine you're a businessman. why would you bother producing tools for a tiny fraction of users (artists), vs producing something that spits out the the finished product and makes people feel like they're artists.

no one is trying to "help" anyone. no one cares about making "tools".
it's here to replace you.

>>6415311
Competing implies you can win. You're competing in the same way McDonalds is competing against Le Bernardin.

>>6415322
You cannot be fully certain on whether it is possible to win or not, as only time will tell

>>6415299
>>6415301
>>6415309
I make it because it's fun, sometimes I post it online because it adds to the fun when other people like it. Anything wrong with that?

>>6415324
okay that's cute i'll give you that

>>6415324
There nothing wrong with it besides having a terminally boring hobby I guess.

>>6415324
>Anything wrong with that?
you're addicted to dopamine and it would be better for everyone if you started using heroin instead.

>>6415329
People here keep saying it's dopamine but what if someone just isn't a NEET and would rather not have to spend long years learning?

>>6415324
It wouldn’t be as bad if you didn’t sound like a desperate attention whore with no talent.

>>6415324
idk, it's kinda boring to me :(

>>6415324
>having fun driving real artists to suicide when they see your like count and realize they'll never be as popular no matter how many years they spend reading Loomis
I'm actually disgusted right now. You're as heartless and sovless as Hitler was.

>>6415320
Because you would get better and more accurate results instead of believing in this random generator?

Your animalistic rage blinds your vision, I understand you to believe you're amazing because you pasted a prompt and hit generate, but this model has major flaws that get in the way of you so proclamed efficiency.

Stop thinking like a psychopath and think about reliable results, getting exactly what you aimed for.

>>6415331
So you are dopamine addicted AND lazy. Congrats?

>>6415331
short of you expiring within a few years, it's just laziness and dopamine
you just didn't want to bother with the hard part and like the hit of new pictures coming at you
me and some artist friends, we all prompted too for a few weeks.
everyone got bored and went back to our normal routines. no one's 'incorporating ai' into our work, if anything it's made everyone appreciate doing it from scratch some more.
you'll never know that.
you're just a drug addict.

>>6415325
>>6415328
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>>6415332
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>>6415335
There are passengers for every train.

>>6415335
Unronically they're gonna inspire the next Hitler or Ted Kaczynski. Plz stop Ai fags you're gonna get us all killed.

>>6415339
I mean the process of it is just not fun to me enough to warrant having to spend so much time, on the other hand admiring the result is the best part. And why do a hobby if majority of it doesn't bring you any happiness? AI lets me skip the part I don't like

>>6415336
> Stop thinking like a psychopath
They can’t, they are real monsters, not for using AI, it’s got nothing to do with it, I’ve seen lots of normal AI users, but in cases like those individuals here, they are indeed dangerous people, they feel pleasure in anything that harm another person and will actively put effort into that.

>>6415352
let me ask you this:
you just like looking at pictures
there is a near-infinite stream of pictures already on the internet, most of which you haven't seen
you might as well just type searches into google right? new pictures, based on the thing you want to see.
but prompting makes it feel different.
it gives you a sense like you're doing something.
like you're participating.
but you don't really care all htat much about the images that come at you as long as they look vaguely okay.
you don't ask for specific details. you don't care how for example, the walls look on a background structure.
it's just there. it may as well be an image result from search engine.

>>6415290
>that tiny ass bicep next to her head

>>6415356
I feel that kind of depends on the person, and it has the unique advantage of being able to give you a specific character at a scenario you cannot find on the internet, like dunno, Bill Clinton winning an game award, which you won't find on the internet, or at least wouldn't up untill few days ago. And it does give some satisfaction when the result ends up looking great too

>>6415352
I mean sure your hobby can be watching Big Bang theory reruns and jacking off but if you tell people you spend your free time that way they are going to laugh at you for being a lazy sod. Same as AI.

Thank you AI, very cool

>>6415324
>fun
That's really sad. I have more respect for gambling addicts.

>>6415352
>AI lets me skip the part I don't like
So you don't like making art and want to skip the process altogether. Got it.

>>6415335
I actually think it's the techies who will an hero in critical numbers, I mean when you think about it many artists already have an issue with imposter syndrome despite working hard to get where they're at. Now think of that x100 for all the techies with inflated egos deluding themselves into believing they're special in any way whatsoever.

>>6415370
"Saving time" with AI just means you don't like making art and want cheap instant results. I will be watching out for phrases like this with my students and docking their grades accordingly.

>>6415361
Bro I prompted "Reformed Orthodox Rabbi (Bill Clinton)" and this is what it gave me. I'm kinda scared, what did the AI mean by this?

>>6415386
You are a retard if you don't see the utility of cutting corners
>hurr durr why don't you like pumping out a single page on your comic per day

>>6415376
Well yeah he already admitted he is lazy and only wants to do fun things. He just wants to press button to make pretty picture appear BUT google images isn’t enough because he wants to feel like he actually “makes” something.

Ironically this is the thing he doesn’t get. Nobody respects something someone “made” if it takes no effort, skill, taste, or talent and literally anyone can do.

>>6415392
Cutting corners means you don't care about what you're doing enough to put time into it. And if you don't care about your work, neither should anyone else.

>>6415397
Cutting corners means you get to have a functional schedule for a project you can actually finish you humongous retard.

Cutting corners is the entire base of the animation industry and people eat that shit up and they don't feel guilty about it because they know projects like comics or animation is pushing a boulder uphill.

>>6415388
kek

can it do hands yet or what, the fuck is the point of magic art machine if it can;t even do the most basic shit????

>>6415412
Tbh if somebody made a collage of ai generated monster hands and arranged it so that it all forms a proper hand, I'd be tempted to call that art

>>6415415
who knew Zdzislaw Beksinski was an ai whore after all, what a fraud

>>6415420
Are you implying he would have been incapable of drawing a normal looking pair of hands

>>6415412
>says the homosapiens that can't make a good circle without ctrl+z 20 times

>>6415412
No, hands are hard

>>6415423
no, he's implying you are a humorless dweeb

>>6415431
>>6415427
garbage
come back when they are fixed
and feet, and poses
I need more than synthetic gormless waifu portraits

>>6415388
SHUT IT DOWN

>>6415431
Tbh instead of obsessing over polished results, prompters should just embrace the weirdness of ai generation and turn it into its own art form

>>6415443
you do have a point in embracing ai's innate in-humanity, but it's a niche genre, most ppl want to look at and make conventionally "beautiful" stuff

>>6415438
you don't need hand to coom

>>6415438
You know very well that what it takes its just prompting continuously and you can get all of that given enough minutes you Cope'nHanger

>>6415445
>most ppl want to look at and make conventionally "beautiful" stuff
That's why people get bored of ai stuff though, "let's prompt for the prettiest picture" does not create anything new or interesting. At least with a human artist, there would have been a skill to admire.

>>6415449
>not using an ai generated reaction image

>>6415450
ppl want the milk, they don't care where it comes from, they are the same subhuman trash that love Marvel capeshit

>>6415439
I'm afraid it's too late, it was good while it lasted

>>6415449
than why are the hands still fucked up, where the higher tier dynamic pose pictures, it's stil same pretty waifu portraits, where are your's?

>>6415458
That shit's overrated anyway, simplicity is the soul of art

>>6415290
>he's thinking it's this easy
bwahahahahaha, anon i made one AI account + persona and posted something a lot better than your images, at most i get is 5 likes on Twitter, Pixiv is different story because it's hollow numbers. Don't delude yourself, it's not only posting pretty images, AI side are harder and more hostile environment. Now post your pixiv dashboard number to prove you aren't larping. I'll post my AI pixiv account dashboard number afterwards. Pic related is my weekly occurrence
There's this one schizo larper on /hdg/ too boasting his fanbox, number and ranking but no image proof everytime asked. This faggot makes us AI bros that doesn't do anything and just want to prompt looks bad

>>6415458
>than why are the hands still fucked up
Because you haven't prompted enough
Literally the only limit is how shit is your computer for generating multiple images, while the alternative is to draw them yourself which will obviously take way fucking longer than jsut prompting 9 images, take the one that looks less fucked up and edit

>>6415335
>muh hitler
Holy fuck you stick out like a sore thumb. Get the fuck off this board you goddamn deviant art hags or I'm going to pick up prompting and start gaslighting until you get niggerman madness.
>>6414764
You too resident dumb frog poster. All you do is spam AI related shit. GTFO

>>6415488
First post the image you claim is a lot better, then we'll talk.

>>6414848
This is probably real
>>6414895
/ic/ isnt artist dumping their works on here, this is artist discussion board. Memes are unironically more common here then pictures of /ic/ work, which is to be expected for discussion forum. And if you mean all those 3GB folders of AI generated stuff that most /sdg/ users have, then you are probably right, but only because they save variations of those pictures. Its basically like if artists saves every single step of their painting as separate image into the folder. Experimenting with prompts and generating 50 images of the same thing only to have one shared should only count as one artpiece.
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>>6414745
Most of /ic/ is full of AI mind broken crabs that used to be crabs even before AI, so please pardon them. The reason most of us laugh at prompters is not because we are jealous of them being the future and us nothing but past. The reason why we mock them is because they will be made redundent before this thing really takes off in popularity, if it even takes off. And I dont mean take off like 1 mil of people logging on Midjurney to make few funny pictures (that number is probably closer to 400k of real people, I made multiple burner accounts just to get free prompts. Yes, I am trying not to be luddite and trying it out for fun, no I will not pay them, no my prompts are too simple to help them in any way). What I mean seriously take off is most studios kicking out all all of the art team and 60+% of commercial artist jobs being lost. We are nowhere near that, but I can assure you that we will get there after prompting becomes easier to the point of you needing to just write perfect description of the scene and the AI perfectly placing each object there, and easily allowing you to change that with drag and drop features. The AI imagery in many ways is no longer improving in terms of just pure quality, aside from photorealism and removing artefacts, so not even your skill of deleting 6th finger will be needed.

>>6415496
Not that anon but I think his point is that there's just not a lot of interesting ai art out there (excluding the explicitly weird shit that I believe is the best use of these algorithms). Most of the "impressive" images people post is "generic pretty girl close-up", "anime waifu with big tits" or "famous movie character in weird situation". You rarely even see prompts with more than one character.

>>6415512
>The AI imagery in many ways is no longer improving in terms of just pure quality, aside from photorealism and removing artefacts, so not even your skill of deleting 6th finger will be needed.

Its only been six months!!! 7 if you include the Dalle-mini back in July! This isn't even the tip of the iceberg. The next models are going be over 1billion parameters (for comparison SD 2.1 is less than 500mil). It feels so long ago because we literally went from "huheue fanny image generator" to "way past the uncanny valley" to "reliably producing anime porn". It's December now at it feels like a decade nearly past.
ITS TOO FAST!! FUCKING SLOW DOWN!!! JUST STOP!!

>>6415335
Hitler was painter that loved art. He would be the one gassing AI supporters for trying to replace the esoteric aryan spirit.
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>>6415290
You dont realize the bigger picture. You think that the world will be still the same as it is now, but now there are Ai artists spamming every artsite, so all the feed gets filled with Ai art that is indistinguishable from real art and the limited number of likes will funnel more and more to AI art as AI art is producing more pictures and making up larger share of all the pictures being posted on said artsite.

Yeah, that might be the case for short term, but in long term it will not. Normies are already losing interest in AI art after the novelty wore off, and they still largely prefer human artists, since if you say the art was generated by AI, it instantly loses its soul. The picture might look soulful in any way you could compare with other pictures, but once you namedrop the AI, it will quickly lose the interest of certain chunk of the demographic. When AI becomes widely accessible to everyone of no skill level, and it gets revealed that most artists are in fact just AIs that dont tag their images as AI generated, people will quickly hop on the train, every normie will become artist, and then the fad will go away and people will be no longer interested in it, but they will also lose interest with real art as well, since why even bother caring about something that every idiot with internet connection can do in 5 seconds. The corporate Bigtech soulless artstyle of colorful simplistic people made of round geometrical shapes is only soulless because Bigtech uses it. Bigtech corrupted this artstyle with its presence, and AI artists will corrupt 2D art the same way. This is the ultimate endgame.

>>6415523
It was fast the first 2 or 3 months in terms of passing turning test. Now it is largely just improving in making less artefacts. Midjurney was able to create masterful hyperrealistic pictures 4 months ago. Stable diffusion made renaissance busty girls few weeks upon release. When the tech got out into the public, it was already over, all they needed were just few more data and parameters and boom, you are done. Go check out the Dall-E 1 research paper at OpenAI and look at the results, then look at the date. This tech was already making good pictures 2 years ago. When Stable Diffusion got finally released, it was already over long loong time ago.

>>6415449
>it takes its just prompting continuously and you can get all of that given enough minutes
Yet again you AIfags make a claim yet refuse to actually post proof.

>>6415386
>Gets his feelings hurt by some AI tranny
>Lashes out at his students
Kek

>>6415536
>Bigtech corrupted this artstyle with its presence, and AI artists will corrupt 2D art the same way.
I don't think so, otherwise photography would have "corrupted" realism entirely but plenty of people still like it. In fact, it's the type of artstyle normies are usually most impressed by. What I think will happen is that people will indeed lose interest in ai shit (they already are) and more and more art related communities will start kicking ai prompters out, until all they have left is their subreddits and discords. People will put disclaimers like "100% human created" when posting artwork (I've already seen twitterfags do it), 4chan drawthreads will put "no ai" into their OP (I've already seem that on /co/) and eventually, it will simply turn into an obscure niche that only certain dedicated autists will care about.

The reason why the "globohomo artstyle" is so hated it's because coorporations overuse it RIGHT NOW. In 10 years, they will move on to something else and slowly people will start drawing in similar styles again. You see people having fun with "2003 Windows XPcore aesthetic" nowadays but nobody would have done it in the early 2000s because ithat was the regular coorporate style back then.

Also, I know that certain "people" here like to doom about ai replacing every single creative job out there because coorporations are evil but the truth is that even coorporations would suffer from it on the long run. Huge industries, like the entire entertainment business, would risk getting replaced by algorithms. Coorporations might be evil but they still care about self-preservation, not to mention the political implications of millions of people losing their income. Yea it happened to manufacturing and guess what, we are still dealing with the problems it caused to this day. I believe one reason why China is cracking down on ai shit is because they have a huge population and know the risks of creating too many unhappy, jobless normies

>>6415516
>You rarely even see prompts with more than one character.
Shit gets fucked when trying to make characters interact with each other. Also it's hard for the AI to understand which character should have the which prompt.

>>6415516
That's because, and this may be shocking, computers don't have sentience. You need to have intention when designing a scene.

>>6415597
Not really, it's because most of the people use it to prompt the same waifu shit. Mainly because most AI "artists" are animefags.

>>6414745
fuck you, I'll hate who I want

>>6415553
>Go check out the Dall-E 1 research paper at OpenAI and look at the results, then look at the date.
They had the tech but It wasn't sustainable at the time and Open AIs Dall-e is heavily dependent on image up scallers and other post edit fuckery which is why it lags behind SD and especially Midjourny not even inducing Open Ais stupid woke/hyper conservative behavior.
Open AI did however bring out the CLIP interpreter (the part of the AI that actually reads the prompts) which is a very important aspect of the whole AI image development.

We still are waiting on Text on image generation and significant improvements in CLIP.

>>6415309
heh

>>6414728
>Still generic
>Cloth doesnt make any sense
Wow irs almost like even if retards had a way to fix it their eye for flaws is basically still retarded

>>6415282
No caustics, no volumetric, no nudity, her hair has flowers in it, but the prompt said "as hair"
>It's my artistic expression!
so is lying apparently.

>>6415282
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>>6418156
That’s what AI art is, an image made by the computer alone. So called AI “artists”can’t understand it’s not their expression, not their art, not even their idea, they just accept whatever the computer throws at them and call it “their art”.

>>6418156
you do realize you can adjust how the AI interprets the prompt right.

This is the future

>>6418297
>being this desperate to damage control
kek. So you're telling me AI posters adjust their image generators to do the exact opposite of their prompts?

>>6418315
I already saw some proudly saying how hard it is to “make” AI art because they need to generate hundreds of images, then use tools like inpaint and that in the end it takes almost as much effort as the obsolete manual labor of artists, but this way than can be surprised with happy accidents. Too bad I didn’t take a screenshot.

>>6414745
esl nobody right here

>>6415343
one of my friends is learning to shoot.

>>6415336
>Stop thinking like a psychopath
kek
delusional child
do you know what business people are like?
Christ you all are so dumb.

>>6418599
in minecraft?

>>6418610
well
sure
is there something wrong with learning to use legally acquired firearms for the sue of self defense?

>>6415046
Bro cannot make a burger

>>6418653
Absolutely not! In fact everyone should own multiple firearms and practice with them often.

Remember the 4 rules of gun safety!
1. Keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction
2. Treat all guns as if they are loaded, safety check them every single time. It's common to safety check them again even after someone just cleared them, you never know when someone might make a mistake.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
4. Always know your target and what's beyond it. At the range, never shoot over the backstop. In a self defense situation, overpenetration is a very real danger depending on your projectile so choose your angles wisely.

>>6415046
Good morning sir

gOD i FUCKING HATE ANIME

>>6418783
rude

>>6418783

Based as fuck OP

Let them seethe and do your thing, lmao

AIGODS making it rain artfag tears, very nice

>s-seething

>>6418818
kek

>>6415305
I completely agree anon. You cannot rely on a system where all you can do is give some vague text description of your idea and hoping that whatever this blackbox produces is usable. I think it could work really well for programming though.

>>6418854
hey thanks for the inspiration

>>6418882
You're welcome.

>>6415536
Hitler would use ai to its maximum propaganda potential
I don't believe he'd have very high opinions of "artist" after getting the boot from art school

>>6418963
he didn't like degenerate art, "modern art"
he hated them in all the same ways /ic/ hates on it
but he loved the neoclassical shit
he would have fit in nicely here

>>6418963
So prompters are just like Hitler?

>>6418966
His ai would probably be based solely on the art that existed in his time.
A tool is a tool
>>6418967
Yes.

>>6418967
>>6418970
don't say that, you want anons to hate ai, not support it

>>6414848
You don't understand. These images will be the necessary data they need to replace artists completely. Hands are shit because most artists are bad at hands anyway.

>>6415585
Keep coping, in a couple of years it will be literally impossible to tell the difference between a picture that someone took 10 hours to draw vs some pajeet proooompting in 5 minutes

>>6418995

Bow down, analog artists
AI Art is the future, your skill will be meaningless and inferior to the superior AI Chad creating art for free instead of giving money to lazy artists.

>>6418996
Think about it, what we see with analog artists is pretty much the best they can produce, meanwhile AI art is just getting started. No AI art signs? Son just like today no human can even scratch a half-decent chess program, in a couple of years no human will have a hope of matching AI art. Right now is the Deep Blue vs Gary Kasparov moment where the machines are just matching human output, everything from here on out will be machine domination.

>>6418939
.... why isn't the bottom outlet spouting water

>>6419000
weak false flag

>>6419007
machines will never be as efficient as humans
ripping off thirdworlders will always be cheaper

>>6419018
ai is cheaper than 3rd worlders

>>6419026
>3rd worlders with AI

>>6419033
>just AI

>>6419036
>AI with 3rd worlders
The robots are raising a pajeet army

>>6419037
das a lot of poo

>>6418995
>noo how dare you critisize my doomer fantasy
Bet you were one of the people who thought the vaxx was gonna kill everyone, too

>>6414728

The first time I saw the fucked up hand I thought of this... BUT there's an easier way using AI itself to fix the hand.

If you can draw hands though... why not just continue to practice and create your own work instead of being a slave fixing something that AI shit out? It's not even your own art.

>>6419038
I can already smell it in the air

>>6419007
>Think about it, what we see with analog artists is pretty much the best they can produce, meanwhile AI art is just getting start
AI cannot create anything new, it only copy pastes and remixes what humans made, and it's still garbage and generic. i thought about it, it seems it's you who didn't think this through at all
>Son just like today no human can even scratch a half-decent chess program, in a couple of years no human will have a hope of matching AI art
obviously an algorithm based software/machine will excel at that compared to a human. the problem is, it's completely worthless at everything else. it's actually insulting to humanity that you faggots simp like this for something that doesn't even have intelligence. it's actually embarrassing that you believe this at all

>>6419056
Because it's easier to fix hands than to create anything even close to the rest of the AI image

>>6419056
>If you can draw hands though... why not just continue to practice and create your own work instead of being a slave fixing something that AI shit out? It's not even your own art.
They can't draw. They don't want to draw. They're parasites. Would you expect a cockroach to start building its own house?

>>6419066
>Because it's easier

Because they don't have the passion. They just use AI because it's the latest fad and it brings attention to their worthless self.

>>6419066
If you're a notalent faggot

This thread proves how utterly shit /ic/ and current digital artists.
OP posts a tool basically a AI powered pick brush/paint bucket for Krista. All but a few of these posts are on topic the rest are shit posts from g tards and ic autists
I don't have the resources to run ai locally has anyone used this? Can it work behind layers or affect be affected by layers there are not visible or obscured?

>>6419085

just learn to draw fucktard

>>6419063
AI has more intelligence than you retard, enjoy being permanently out of a job soon

>>6419085
Fuck off to your containment thread.
Then die slowly in a fire.

>>6419417
I, for one, look forward to living off your wagie tax dollars

>>6414728
kill yourself kike

>>6415448
if you coom to hands yes

>>6419624
>be hand fetishist
>touch yourself with your hands
>theyre your own hands
>same sex
>gay
checkmate, handfags

can you ask AI to draw lolis th?

>>6419843
yes, of course
ai makes anything, art part is just the novelty, it makes photo-real shit even better, that's real shenanigans

>>6415290
Holy fuck. You can't be for real. You just want to be an attention whore?
Who gives a fuck about internet updoots, they are literally worthless and achieve nothing. I say that as someone who had an account at one point with 20k followers, actually caring about this shit is pathetic and sad and more than that, not indicative of skill. Most of online success is marketing.
Which is funny because the majority of these AI images struggle to gain more than 20 likes, where as even an artist with terrible self promotion and worse art skills can get more likes on average.
>>6415324
Being an attention whore is not inherently wrong, but it's pointless. I think people are just flabbergasted that that would be an actual motivation for you, because at least with art attention whores, taking away the attention part they still draw because they're honing their skills and are proud of the fact they are able to capture a vision they had in their head by working hard and learning how to translate that accurately to paper. The same is not true here, there is no grind, nothing crafted that's actually intrinsically and unmistakably your own creation that could only be made by you. It's a weird motivation to waste your own time like this, to larp as someone who can make something like this solely for the praise/attention part and absolutely none of the gratification aspect. It'd be less hassle to be a camwhore or something.

Imagine being a cuck for AI art, lmao. Let it do all the fun part while you are fixing issues. I wait until AI can properly render my sketch animations with no differences.

>>6420279
Bullshit that is not AI. good troll however.

>>6420280
it absolutely is, my friend

>>6420280
ai replicates whatever training data it was fed, you want photos, it can give you photos, it just depends on the quality of the training data

>>6420279
>>6420280
samefag? not schizo, just seen this pattern a lot.
quick screenshot your (you)s! no time to shop them.

>>6420328
I do have a modest amount of (you)s.

artbros they're mocking us

>shitposting into the void
anon...

>>6414793
No it's fucking garbage

>>6414728
>Keep having to correct fuck ups by aislop over and over
>You will never be an artist, just an ''''''editor''''''''
Absolutely pathetic

>>6419066
LMAO aifags have no clue

>>6420432
Whats the clue we're missing? Post your art that is supposedly better than AI art and we'll compare how about that.

>>6414793
Krita is used by many professional artists so yes it's very good.

>>6414728
we just keep winning GNU/bros

>>6414787
>MUH SOVL MUH SOVL!
nigga you draw gay porn

>>6422268
Are you implying gay porn is not soulful?

>>6422268
As somebody who's into gay anime porn, real yaoi is more SOVL than the shit the AI has shat out.

>>6414728
This is some ghetto-ass shit.

>>6415536
Good morning sirs
>>6419007
2 more weeks

>>6414787
based

>>6414728
>Using Krita with stable diffusion to fix AI-generated images
is the same as
>Using Sugar with deodorant to fix feces

>>6420282
SauceNao source to this guy https://www.artstation.com/vayeate
He says "No to AI Cake", besides he claims to be oil/watercolor painter too

what do I have to do to get a decent fucking resolution on things?
Adjust CFG doesnt help, going for 512x512 or a multiple integral doesnt help, switching models (sd1.4, pruned 1.5, fantasycarddiffusion, wikiart, 768v) doesnt help, going up or down with steps doesnt help, shortening or weighting prompt doesnt help.
I even got some really good results with earlier attempts when I was just typing a collection of words with ny syntax into the prompt field!

>>6425946
What UI are you using? Also, it's buggy but there is a 2.1 model that is trained to 768x.
CFG does nothing for resolution that just how strongly interprets the prompt (aka imagination slider).
If you are generating larger resolutions there's is a highres fix on o Automatic111s UI. I would set the de noise to 6 and adjust the high res fix to a size two bellow your generation size.
I don't think people realize this has only been out since July. Things still need to mature on the user friendly front.

>>6426094
for reference what UI I am using.
I am looking for highres fix, I know i've seen it around here sometimes
What do I need to do if I use the webinterface and want to export/save a file in a much higher resolution. Outpaint always generates noisy junk for me I dont know what any of the things are doing.

>>6426094
also:
>I would set the de noise to 6
What? Do you mean denoise strength? I thought that only goes up to 1,0?
> and adjust the high res fix to a size two bellow your generation size.
So if the base size is 512, I set it to 510? Or hwat do you mean by "size two"?

>>6426109
>>6426111
sorry I didnt mean to confuse you.
the webui has a sperate optional highres fix with its own denoise strength slider. so for example of you set your generation size to 1024 x1600 you should ideally set your hi res fix size to 512x768 and a de noise strenght of .6. Then again this subjective if you getting heads cut off/tiling or other undesirable effect you can tweak it however you want.
also I dont remeber the kirta plugin doesnt have a highres fix option becuase its designed for outpainting and img2img. I could be wrong though.

>>6426151
>becuase its designed for outpainting and img2img.
that's exactly what I have issues with, which is why this issue is annoying me.
For some reason, when I was still messing around, I made absolutely stunning images with great sharpness and seamless inpainting.
Now, inpainting looks like I cut a painting together out of different magazine pictures

>>6426151
btw, thanks for clarifying.
Still looking for thehigh-res fix on the webui, maybe I'm blind but I cant find it on the default surface.

Oh god it's getting worse.
I am CONVINCED now that there is some kind of log file that degrades or something like that, through which my algorithm keeps getting worse at generating images
I set all parameters I could find to the default ones that the WEBUI interface loads with when opening it.

>6418995
>Keep coping, in a couple of years it will be literally impossible to tell the difference between a picture that someone took 10 hours to draw vs some pajeet proooompting in 5 minutes
"two more weeks" aside, it's hilarious to see people who have no appreciation of art argue about art. It's no wonder that if your only measure of artistic quality is "nice looking image", you'd be having a fit over AI kitsch.
Too bad you can't make a model for actual taste, I guess.

Name one AI artist.

>>6426217
>Well of course I know him. He's me

>>6426217
>AI
>artist
pick one lmao

>>6426180
Not sure about the plug-in but its included with voldys/automatics UI.
>>6426236
I would prefer prompt engineer/smith.

>>6414728
how to piss off /ic/ tips
>mention AI in any way shape or form
>mention that you can make a living fixing AI art
>imply that you don't need fundies when you have AI
>basically any combination of AI and calling it art
i have these threads give me desktop notifications just to watch /ic/ seethe, it's euphoric

>>6414895
>This comment says alot that the good people of /g/ have made more art in six months than /ic/ has in its entire existence.

>>6426245
>imply that you don't need fundies when you have AI
Strongly disagree an artist with fundies is significantly better at curation with or without AI. The people spamming AI shit generally spit out whatever the first thing the AI gives and don't scrutinize it.
tl;dr there's a lot of AI shit but mostly because of how easy it is to spam it.
>>6426247
I mean, good or bad not hes not wrong lol but I would argue the /i/ is the superior art board for the simple reason people actually draw there.

>>6415172
it's a good filter for tech-illiterate artists
>what the heck is a bash terminal, what is looonixx??
i can't imagine what 4chan would be like if it was as simple as installing a web browser
>>6415144
nice
>>6415242
fortunately that's not the point
there are no reliable tools to help you learn how to draw, at least not yet, so we'll tackle that problem if we need to later

>>6415167
it's a typical leftist technique
when you have no valid criticism of a certain group, just call them something undesirable that everyone can understand

why bother refuting their point when you can simply call them a nazi or white supremacist or redditor?
say it enough times and people, who do not do any research of their own, will begin to believe it
why do you think the six gorillion myth is so widely believed without any solid evidence to prove it?

>>6415220
>>>/g/
this is an artwork board not a technical support board

>>6415290
i always love when people make the cope that they don't care about the likes but they are doing that very thing
>>6415536
this guy is right
the more you post, the more engagement you get (unless you say something bad about the chinese government or something)
this was something garyv always stressed
because AI can produce work much faster that "seems" good, it will oversaturate the market

granted, the only people that have to worry are those who both actually care about being oversaturated as they will draw either way or those that have such a unique style that it cannot be as reliably copied as most of the anime stuff out there

>>6426259
it's relevant to the board when the technology is the tool used to make the art, but probably would get better answers from /g/

>>6419011
it's top-heavy

>>6415324
ooooh shiny, saved

>>6415372
>i have more respect for people that can't feed their family because they lost it all to gambling more than some linux user who figured out how to install stable diffusion and hurts no one and nothing but a couple of egos

>>6415335
uhhh, anon
jews killed more people than hitler ever did

>>6415384
not really, that's only an artist problem
ai artists have their main interest in technology, AI is just another form of that technology interest
when they become bored of AI, they'll just move to some other technology

>>6415333
>generic moe-blob with big tits in a generic dress is more interesting to me

>>6415394
>Nobody respects something someone “made” if it takes no effort, skill, taste, or talent
this is so wildly incorrect i'm not even sure if you've gone outside
the amount of talentless people who get paid for simple work who are seemingly respected already proved to me that it's not about being "the best"
you do something that takes skill because you enjoy doing it, not for "muh respect", otherwise you'll soon realize you've wasted your time for something someone else can get with much less effort
>literally anyone can do
wow, anon
i didn't know you ran linux too and are able to run stable diffusion from your computer as well
since literally anyone can do it, lets see your prompts then :)

>>6415386
>people still think they can learn how to draw from art school
now that's a hilarious meme

>>6415427
>>says the homosapiens that can't make a good circle without ctrl+z 20 times

>>6415467
that's pretty nice sedu desu

>>6419843
I been using AI to alter my style and produce loli without having my name attached.

>>6426266
It took a long time before drawing tablet threads stopped being redirected to /g/, your argument doesn't flo. AI prompting is not art, the techniques used with AI and artistry is entirely different.
Also, stable diffusion threads on /g/ are okay, but /h/ often gets into the nuts and bolts of how to better manipulate it. Coomerism is a powerful force.

>>6414728
>Content-Aware Scale in PS
>Smudging
>Very tiny amount of brush strokes
she has five fingers now
since it's anime it's easier but with a more realistic style it'll be much, much harder
>>6418299
>>6418811
>>6418882
>>6419417
based
>>6419049
objectively speaking, it did take out quite a lot of people and perfectly healthy young children, if you want, i can post proof
>>6419056
it's easier to fix mistakes than it is to redraw an entire image
pic related, though a very simplistic example, was done with just a mouse and keyboard, no drawing tablet required
of course, if the mistakes are much more grave, it might require it but it's typically not necessary
>>6419063
most artists do not create anything new either, that's why AI has a bunch of similar data to work off of
>>6419085
AI is pretty hard to setup, at least in my opinion
i'm a /g/fag and even i was stumped
>>6419843
every stable diffusion thread on /b/ is basically just a glorified loli thread

>>6426310
fixed her thumb this time since i didn't like how the hair was going over the tip of the thumb, weird perspective

>>6426310
You overestimate ai-fags. Even removing a 6th finger in ps is too much for them

>>6426285
wellll it's not like what that guy posted was significantly more interesting. but let me clarify:
i can see the appeal of ai if you wanted cheap generic assets for say, like a game. but if your trying to make actual art beyond just playing around with it, it's just not a very appealing process compared to drawing it yourself with your own skill.
>pyw
maybe later.

>>6426310
>it's easier to fix mistakes than it is to redraw an entire image
lmao you really have no clue.
Tell me how fast it is to fix all the fucked up frills, or the messed up hair

>>6426310
>>6426318
>blonde-hair and blue eyes
nah
also, added a wedding band so none of you faggots can steal her
>>6426323
maybe but this thread is about improving your artwork using AI so we are implying that this is what this is about
>>6426355
far faster than learning how to draw and doing it from scratch
learning how to use photoshop isn't very difficult and doing it for a significant amount of time will teach you techniques to do it even better than what i do, which honestly isn't that good but that's not the point
i've seen some artists throw together different images (i guess you call that photobash) very nicely, taking references from different places then painting over anything that they don't they can get online
being strict about the process and saying that you have to do it one specific way is probably one of the reasons you are so bitter and upset
i don't care, it's fun so i do it

>>6426372
>forgot image

>>6426372
>far faster than learning how to draw and doing it from scratch
Then feel free to do it and those two things I pointed out are the most obvious errors, there's a LOT more to fix in that image.
>learning how to use photoshop isn't very difficult and doing it for a significant amount of time will teach you techniques to do it even better than what i do, which honestly isn't that good but that's not the point
i've seen some artists throw together different images (i guess you call that photobash) very nicely, taking references from different places then painting over anything that they don't they can get online
being strict about the process and saying that you have to do it one specific way is probably one of the reasons you are so bitter and upset
I can use photoshop pretty well that's why I'm calling you out retard.

>>6426380
i know, i'm still messing around with it but if you can do better then do it
if not then why say anything?
and what are you so upset about?
if you really are right, you'd prove me wrong not go around calling people retard
and you wonder why AI pajeets want you out of a job

>>6414895
97% of /g/ are unemployed wannabe software engineers anyways. They should be worried that all the junior level jobs are gonna be replaced by AI.

>>6426310
>>6426318
>>6426373
ring looked too uncanny

>>6426373
cheap mf couldn't even buy her a gold band, baka my head

>>6426400
i didn't know she was so materialistic

>>6426414
>>6426398
>>6426373
Can't even tell how bad something looks. This is why people hate AI posters

>>6426483
>"people"
>ARTISTS
FTFY

>>6426323
>>6426355
>>6426373
>>6426380
>>6426387
>>6426388
>>6426398
>>6426400
>>6426414
>>6426483
HAHAHAHAHA
>bro that looks like shit
how the fuck is this exclusive to AI?????
do you fucking hear yourself?

people get assblasted on here because they make tiny mistakes on their art that was created without an AI and i am supposed to take YOU seriously when you respond in the same way to AI as if it's exclusive to AI???
there is no difference with you fucking retards
it doesn't matter if he drew that image or if an AI generated it, there's always some autistic bullshit reasoning to call the person /beg/ and the fact that you are trying to act like this is exclusive to AI is pure COPE

the funniest threads are the ones where people complain that they have to "examine" an image before they can like it because it can likely be AI, KEK!!!!!
there's so much cope in these threads i can't believe you haven't committed suicide yet
you people are literally adding more reasons to not care when AI takes the generic moe-blob artist's job when you go around acting smugly and calling other people's work shit
and i'm supposed to care about regulating AI art? nah, fuck you flaming faggots, i hope it takes all of your jobs

>>6426548
Hey, little buddy, that's a looooot of naughty words your saying. o_o
You sound angry. Don't be so red ^_^. just calm down and be happy! It'll be better for you health.
Here's sum 100% certified human art for you. I hope you think she is cute :3.

>>6426548
>quotes half the thread
>you're c-coping
Could you write this post again without crying?

>>6426591
cute
>>6426597
cringe

> ...technology is developing at such a rapid rate that automation will progress to cybernation, and cybernation probably to technocracy. If the ruling circle remains in power it seems to me that capitalists will continue to develop their technological machinery because they are not interested in the people. Therefore, I expect from them the logic that they have always followed: to make as much money as possible, and pay the people as little as possible - until the people demand more, and finally demand their heads.

>If revolution does not occur almost immediately, and I say almost immediately because technology is making leaps (it made a leap all the way to the moon), and if the ruling circle remains in power the proletarian working class will definitely be on the decline because they will be unemployables and therefore swell the ranks of the lumpens, who are the present unemployables. Every worker is in jeopardy because of the ruling circle, which is why we say that the lumpenproletarians have the potential for revolution, will probably carry out the revolution, and in the near future will be the popular majority. Of course, I would not like to see more of my people unemployed or become unemployables, but being objective, because we're dialectical materialists, we must acknowledge the facts.

>Today's capitalist has developed machinery to such a point that he can hire a group of specialized people called technocrats. In the near future he will certainly do more of this, and the technocrat will be too specialized to be identified as a proletarian.

t. Huey P. Newton (November 18 1970)

Do not make the mistake of thinking this is static technology.

Do not make the assumption that litigation will save you from corporate interest.

>>6426676
>still using the categories of capitalist and proletarian unironically

>>6426682
>implying what was said 50 years ago isn't relevant today

>>6426676
two more weeks

>>6418882
where are these being added to?

>>6418990
Hands are shit for other reasons, most images of hands that it has are photographs which wouldn't be fucked unlike art.

>>6427132
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8wKqgO

>>6427160
Ai hands being bad are a meme. Even the worst hands can be fixed in literally ten seconds with a mask and img2img. Prompters simply don't care if they're bad so don't bother fixing them.

>>6427176
If you have a good gpu that's true and sometimes it takes many iterations, at least for me. But what I said is still true, it's a very complicated math problem not a data problem.

>>6427176
The best hands 5 fingers and all still look like shit

>>6427177
I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just think the hands are a non issue and essentially cope, aitards don't care if the hands are bad and most of the artists who would be shit on by ai are bad at hands too

>>6427171
look at the raw affection in the black haired girl's eyes, i wonder what the artist was trying to convey here

>>6427196
I was going for gay animes with big boob

>>6427183
Like I said it can do good hands if you try, prompters just don't care.

>>6427200
This. I could generate like 20 pics in the time it takes to fix hands, so I'll just generate 20 pics.

>>6427200
Thats nebulous af you're essentially asking me to take you at your word on a Mongolian fish gutting website >>6427204
>I promise
All I'm saying is what alot of aifags come here with even the ones who say shit like we solved hands and post whatever are coping thinking good and passable at a glance are the same thing

>>6427204
As long as the boobies and skindentation is on point who needs hands

>>6427211
>aifags come here with even the ones who say shit like we solved hands and post whatever are coping thinking good and passable at a glance are the same thing
Yeah, they don't know and/or care. I'm an artfag who spent countless hours getting hands right but I've actually used stable diffusion and know what it can and can't do. It can do hands, just not all the time, when it gets them wrong it's trivial to fix. I could draw them in if I wanted to

>>6427212
A fellow who understands.

>>6427218
>im an artfag
Mhmm

>>6427218
I don't understand the point of doing falseflags like this, who do you think is going to fall for it?

>>6414728
Whatever you do please follow this tutorial.
Please.
I'm begging you.

I just got home and started up Krita for some Diffusion shenanigans and my entire interface was fucked.
Every single view is now its own docker, rather than having one unified docker for all of SD. Did anyone else experience this? Restoring defaults didnt help