/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is 27 too late to start doing art? My hands are shaky.

Could you guys rate the difficulty of each stage?
Drawing from photographs exactly as they appear
Drawing from photographs but in different angles/different poses
Drawing from memory

>>6416301
In a year's time, would you rather be asking yourself if 28 is too late, or have a year's experience?

>>6416301
Take some magnesiumb(for the shakiness) and just do it. I'm 30 and in 90 days of drawabox and Loomis I have actual beginner level skills which I weren't expecting to develop.

Fuck man. I really hope I'll improve in the future.

>>6416394
Reference

>>6416365
I tried fwap and hated that shit. So far enjoying dab.

>>6416365
What lessons are yet at 90 days in?

>>6416293
cant make a straight line tier beginner, how do i start?
looking to go more "classical"/"academic" (especially portraits and the like) and also thinking of painting later on. fond of the construction method.
thinking of doing Loomis for some starting fun, maybe.

>>6416441
You can pick anything you'd like really
Just make sure to also make time to draw what you want to draw alongside it.
Even if it sucks in the beginning.
Your practice should be aimed towards something or you'll just be an empty husk of techniques.

>>6416446
what would you say are decent starting points/things to build on?

i'm aiming for old masters stuff, like Michelangelo's mourning woman, or Da Vinci's soldier in profile as a few examples of an endgoal. i'm especially fond of the russian style (think Repin, maybe).

>>6416456
Villpu's drawing manual he goes over the basic shapes first and then goes into figure studies etc.
I'll see if I can upload the course.

Its an honor to have someone use my post for a thumbnail. thanks

Tried tracing with just two pieces of paper and a light pad but his gun feels fucked. Need to touch him up before ink.

Is there anything in particular one should do beside life drawing and construction to encourage three-dimensional thinking?

>>6416497
sculpture helps if you can find a good place to learn easily.
try to change perspective and position of things in your head too.

>>6416237
>Try not to symbol draw. You've drawn the outline of the lips, which is why it looks off
ugh i tried so hard to not look at the page and instead stare at the reference while drawing the lips. i can't fucking believe how much i symbol draw even when not looking at what i draw

>>6416456
>>6416462
It's a bitch to upload just search for Vilppu Studio Drawing Manual - Ch.01 - Gesture
And it's on vk

>>6416421
I'm still doing drawabox. After lesson 1 there's the 250 BC which I finished, then obviously it gets more complicated from there so I take it slower. I'm chewing through lesson 3 and getting ready for another challenge run along with Loomis' figure drawing book. I started with 0 still (we all do) and did not enjoy drawing at all and therefore couldn't improve at all. Getting through even just L1/250BC from Drawabox forced my brain to consider perspective and forced my hand to make clean lines, Loomis' cartoons and simple constructions granted more imagination so now drawing is an actual hobby and not a daunting thing. Personally going to move on from a Loomis' stuff and when I feel good either start trying to learn from a Scott Robertson book or CGMA dynamic drawing course, idk.

How should I go on about rendering the individual hairs?

Hey, Lee. You know how to pick a lock, right?

>>6416658
you don't

>>6416658
Custom brush or really fine brush

i wish to stop drawing from imagination...

>>6416683
Any brush recommendations for that?

>>6416703
I wish I could draw from imagination worth a shit.

Do you guys have any recommendations on the best way for real beginner to start?

I tried copying my favorite artists for a few days but every drawing I made so far has being awful

I'm also already doing drawabox on the side
Any tips help

>>6416796
Read the sticky

>>6416819
Thank you

>>6416704
Nope sry.

>>6416301
I started at 26

>>6416878
anon is already years better than me in the first image so this doesn't really mean anything to me

>>6416883
I am that guy
First image was 4 months of training. I started at stick figures

>>6416891
oh nice, good for you. the top image is really awesome. keep tearing it up anon

>>6416891
What was your routine? Did you primarily practice anime drawings?

>>6416658
Update: tried using a thin hard brush for hair and it honestly doesn't look half bad think I'm done with this for now

>>6416899
At lvl 0, it doesnt matter what you draw, just draw.
Discipline and hand eye coordnation are the first and most important skill

Lvl 0 is the hardest lvl. It gets easier at lvl1
Just draw 5 mins a day, everyday

I still don't know if I'm actually "seeing" the things in 3D and actually "moving" them or if I just memorized random lines in space

>>6416910
how do you define these levels?

>>6416933
I guess 4chan strips some kind of orientation data

>>6416933
it's the same thing, but your boxes are wrong, read perspective made easy or drawabox or something

>>6416703
I wish to draw from imagination

>>6416937
4chan strips all EXIF data from images except for posts on /p/ to prevent idiots from doxxing themselves

>>6416937
Yes. Crop the image, just by a hair, and it won't rotate on you.

>>6416935
Personal opinion

>>6416943
>but your boxes are wrong
Dang it. I was reading material for drawabox and referencing other sources for perspective, and basically trying to follow guidelines of
>Draw the Y
>3 vanishing points
>Sets of lines converge
>Lengthening/shortening lines as needed to represent perspective
Is there anything I should keep in mind? Other than my lack of skill in mark-making?

First time doing gestures/whatever this is.
How did I do?

>>6416958
you've got a bit of the lines don't meet, and the vanishing points are too close together causing them to be warped

>>6416964
why would you ask for a crit on your first gesture? By the time you do 50 more, it'll be 50% better. Post your 300th figure and we'll critique it

>>6416964
Looks really stiff, use a reference

>>6416976
Yeah those are essentially the problems I keep running into.
>Lines don't meet
Agreed, I am still eyeing it up and building that memory, so at least the theory is there
>Too close, and warped
I suffer greatly from this, something to unlearn early. Here are some more warps. Doing this 230 more times but I have to do it right.

>>6416994
Son of a gun, I meant to pick this

>>6416997
>Son of a gun
You're really cute.

Some practice

>>6416658
like the other anon said, you could either use a custom hair brush or use a lasso tool to create some strands. I did a bit of both. Top is lasso, ear is brush. It's good to mix it up sometimes.

>>6416935
Draw a box defines these

>>6416293
I'm trying to draw a musashi fgo esque samurai lady, but before I continue further what would you recommend me to do it change about this? Left arm is a bad weird but after many tried I could draw it in a way I like, please help.

>>6417197
looks like you focused on just her tits. her right arm is tiny, calves to thigh ratio, in fact pretty much everything is wrong proportion wise. I guess you're not using reference, which isn't a bad thing in itself but I don't think you're at a level to do it yet. I would suggest breaking down figures to simple forms from reference, remove the reference and build the figure from those forms again

>>6417290
I see, I tried to use refernace but couldn't find the pose I wanted

Is 25 too late if I want to have a career in comics? I always wanted to but I’ve had a bunch of drama and depression in my life. I see all the big artists got to be interns at marvel at like 16, and I feel like it’s too late for me.

>>6417323
Post your work then we will start from there

>>6417323
i dunno, 5 years to learn to draw, another 5 years to build a substantial audience, and perhaps 5 more years to publish enough work for a comfortable living. It's an uphill battle if you're starting as a day 1 beg right now

How would you rate this digital painting? (Not my art btw)

Painting practice from previous thread. For my first time digitally painting ld say i did pretty well.

>always the same format.
>no work ever posted with said posts.
evertiem.

How can i improve the line art/drawing.

>>6417369
If I saw it would scroll pass

>>6416905
There is something seriously missing in this but I can't see what it is
I need to train my skills of perception

>>6416878
Not tryna be harsh, but your new art is still shit.

Its great you improved, but all it seems you did is move to digital and learned how to color/render in miku style.

>>6417403
Why

>>6417411
Mate, that was 1 year of progress. I expect to fully master anatomy by next year

Then I would start studyng colors

>>6417366
I had been drawing for years as a kid but gave up after hard depression hit me at 17. Finally recovered at 25 enough to want to follow my passions again. I am not a day 1 /beginner/ and my drawings actually don’t all look immediately ass but I’m still pretty solidly an amateur novice.

>>6417400
Line weight is a pretty good place to start. You can also check out some of the csp tutorials on lineart

>>6417369
why crop out Fenrirprime's watermark?

>>6417418
You wanna see real progress?

Pic rel is from 2021

>>6417411
Now in 2022

>>6417446
>>6417452
Are you being ironic Marc?

>>6417452
Even this art was made in mid 2022. I have much much better pieces but their all on my laptop and im on mobile rn.

Even I havent master anatomy and look at my pic rel.

To say your gonna "master anatomy" by next year is completely false. Even the old masters and the new masters in the digital age havent mastered anatomy.

Get a grip anon and humble yourself

>>6417467
Literally not. Heres a better example from 2021

I've been trying to draw what I see with the book Keys to Drawing but I'm wondering if I should be measuring ratios when I draw shapes/outlines or if this is a crutch?
Before I started to look at the images I was drawing I'd often be very inaccurate and so looking at the images when drawing has helped a lot but I'm still quite inaccurate at times i.e line on the left ends up at the wrong length compared to the right, shape is too elongated, etc

>>6417446
>>6417452
I can see your progress but your 2021 already understand muscle anatomy
You just learned perspective

I started at literal stickman

>>6417404
I didnt paint the ear

>>6417566
Oh yeah I missed that
I just mean she looks very beautiful on the right but she's kind of average on the left

>>6417414
Not him, but it's uninspired. It's just a FotM character from 3 angles. Nothing's happening, it's lifeless. (his) right arm is also fucked up, and his general body proportions look squashed to make him fit in frame.

>>6417521
What your showing me in pic rel isnt stickmen tho. So you had a decent (although very rough and basic) understanding of the female anatomy, and i feel like all you've improved on is the face, hair and shading. You got a little better with the torso but not to a degree where i would flex my 1 year progress.

Dont get me wrong im not trying to disregard the hard work and grinding, im just saying that you should lower your expectations for improvement. I think you'll master anatomy in 3-4 years, and become pro im 4-5. Same with me if i keep practicing at the rate i do (2 sketchbook pages a day of reference studying) ill be pro in maybe 3-4 years hopefully.

It all depends on how much you grind and how much your brain and comprehend/memorize muscles and where certain things go at this particular angle. All art is about is memorizing and observing, and time.

>>6417584
Well not all art has to portray a story or imply something. Its like a character sheet where its just the character in different angles to show how they look and operate.

Even if it is lifeless, you still gotta respect the skills in the painting (especially in the bottom right one)

>>6417430
Thats how i originally got the post on pinterest.

>>6417028
Boobs too big

>start studying anatomy
>notice a lot of stuff in figures I've never noticed before

>>6417595
That was a copy, mate
I have no idea what I was doing and just copied what I could find back then.

I still copy stuff but I can modify them properly now

>>6417601
>Even if it is lifeless, you still gotta respect the skills in the painting (especially in the bottom right one)
Says who?

>>6417711
Me

Incremental improvement. Not much time to draw, but I got maybe 45 minutes to fuck around. I'm really having trouble tilting things down, but I'm getting the hang of turning them sideways.
I'm so fucking tired, but I got sauce in reducing for tomorrow's dinner that needs to be watched and then sit overnight. I just want to go to sleep...

>>6417766
Is this part of a larger drawing of like a surrealist landscape where Family Guy people grow from the ground like bushes?

>>6417837
It's more like I had limited time. The part that really bothers me is drawing lips in a three dimensional way. I don't really care about the rest at the moment. The sauce is almost done and I can find fucking sleep. I might get six and a half hours otf I'm lucky.

Ok I give up. Drawing won, it beat me. I have been utterly demoralized.

>>6417766
Fuck off schizo

>>6417766
You should unironically do strict bargue and cast drawings

>>6417028
Boobs too small

>>6417369
nice brush work, reminds me of leyendecker. Weird proportions on the full figure though, not a fan of ed bighead.

>>6417899
same, i'm getting mindbroken by drawing. i try to do some exercises to help out my observation, accuracy, and hand eye coordination because those are things i'm lacking in and want to improve, but i find them difficult to get it really accurate so i do them for a short time and try to draw for fun. i start drawing for fun and the very first line i draw looks like i have parkinsons despite drawing it from the shoulder, then i try to correct it by drawing over it and the second line ends up even worse somehow, all i feel are shockwaves of emotion course through every fiber of my being and my limbs are enraptured by a subconscious, primal desire to stand up, throw myself through the window, and sprint on all four limbs like an animal towards the nearest freeway. i've done a lot of things in life where i failed trying to learn something, but this is the first that relies on fine motor control and hand eye coordination so maybe that's why this is so much of a different kind of pain. i see the line i need to draw in the reference, i visualize myself drawing it and it makes sense in my head, do the ghosting technique where i trace it out, but when i go to put my pencil onto paper and draw, the angle is off. i erase and try again and end up picking another wrong trajectory. i've never broken down sobbing so many times in my life than in the past 2 months with trying to draw, i truly feel powerless i just want to draw a straight fucking line please god have mercy on me just let me draw one at the right angle and length

no one is reading that.

I'm very new, what's a good way to learn and practice construction?

No one gave me critique last thread so I'm reuploading. What I tried to do is prove to myself that I can draw a face at any angle at a 9/10 quality without a ref if I really tried. I used my problem solving skills, knowledge of perspective and Loomis in order to draw this as well as using the eraser multiple times.
In the meantime I have decided to pursue animation rather than manga because I believe animation is the shortcut to improving.

Are iPads good for art?

How to achieve cleanness?

>>6418237
Practice

>>6418237
more confidence with line work. It will come with time anon, you got this

>>6418237
Bro you've got the junji ito face down

more bridgman

>>6418361
is that you, mysterious greasespot-anon?

>>6418386
my gf made sasusage balls the other day and left one on my sketchbook (on top of a pape rtowel) as a surprise and this shit still bled through like 5 pages

>>6418311
Your redline is worse than the original pic

>>6416293
Is Dodson's Keys To Drawing a good book for somebody with very little experience? I am absolutely shit at drawing but I'm really enjoying drawing and manipulating shapes and want a tried and true method for improvement. Thanks in advance.

>>6418436
Yes, that and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain are the two best books for a beginner to pick up. They'll teach you how to stop symbol drawing and draw what you you see. After that you can move on and learn construction, anatomy, etc.

at least it looks like a person

yep

>>6418237
what part do you think is messy?

>>6416293
Pleease help best resource for a variety of manag faces and styles?
I cant draw for shit

>>6418493
best resource is to copy manga

Morpho anatomy as a giga beg. Yes or no?

>>6418519
speak english retard

>>6418520
I shall not
But I still want thoughts on pic

crit pls

>>6418523
What is your native language

Español?

>>6418555
English
Answer the question

>>6418562
Ñ

>>6418562
ask politely

>>6418565
Ok please give me your thoughts on the Morpho books

>>6418575
never read 'em

>>6418578
Lmao

>>6418519
hard yes. Copy it cover to cover, while doing figure drawings from photos / life, and drawing from imagination. Foodproof art curriculum

>>6418523
>>6418519
Learning anatomy is unironically easier and more useful than reading that book

>>6418588
you are mistaken! Morpho is an anatomy book

Study

>>6418539
Looks great anon. Maybe a minor nitpick, the far eye and lips are looking a bit flat and I'd work on the ear a bit more. Are you using photo ref or yourself?

i love you /begs/ keep going, and remember to always be courageous

>>6418416
how so? care to correct it then?

I am not interested in realistic drawings bros...

>>6418609
Neither am I. You’re in good company. Vilppu is the man for you.

>>6418612
I will check him out
I just need to fucking draw more but I am overwhelmed with where to start

>>6418615
The starting point is the easiest, as anything will make you rapidly improve. Don’t stress

>>6418626
You're probably right but not knowing how to draw anything feels like the hardest!

>>6416301
Yes, by age 25 the "art" center in your brain stops growing and starts melting

Is there something like DAB but for digital?

>>6417919
>Schizo
We say faggot and nigger here. You have to go back.
>>6417940
I'm going to have to google that.

>>6418211
You shouldnt ever draw without a reference lol everyone who paints or draws professionally uses a reference 100% of the time

>>6418211
>>6418669
Here's a professional mangaka who's done it for decades flipping through a magazine to draw his characters
https://youtu.be/VoN4Pr2x3pg

>>6418671
>>6418669
Oh cool yeah thanks, yeah I plan to use a reference from now on. I thought about it for awhile and realized there's literally no reason for me not to use reference. That's partly why I chose to study animation, because it forces me to consider each of my drawings a project as a whole rather than practice and will take my works to the next level.
The reason I wanted critique was because I was just extra proud of my 3/4 face here. Look at it, the left eye (right side) incorporates perspective hence the curve on the upper eyelid at that angle. It took me awhile to figure out but made me approach drawing in a problem solving way.
I consider this face a 9/10, would be a 10/10 if I fixed the face and hair. I also wanted to know how to make the top face up to this level.

>>6418675
>face and hair
mouth* and hair

I can't seem to get the cube right while drawing from still life. Could someone give a beg a tip or two on how to get the proportions right? Or should I simply eyeball them and keep grinding until I get better?

>>6418671
the amount of hours that took makes me feel like im ngmi

guys please tell me when I am allowed to draw cool robots fighting when do I stop drawing beans and cubes?

>>6418710
I unironically enjoy drawing boxes n shit so I can't relate

>>6418719
post boxes

>>6418695
I'm doing this rn as well. 25/50 boxes in Drawabox. I can tell things are getting better but it's a pure learning process. Muscle memory, visual library and experience. There's a reason it's 250 boxes, 250 cylinders, 50 wheels and 50 treasure chests. Think of it like training for a marathon. Spend all year doing less than exciting exercises building up to the main event which you're proud of.

>>6418710
do them even if you suck at it then keep practicing. rinse and repeat.

>>6418731
I can't into depth (at least for the next few days, or week) so I won't say what I've done is worth shit. But I do enjoy the process of it, maybe that's just cause it's the first two weeks and I'm retarded basically and have nothing better to do. Though these are a bit old.

>>6418739
>>6418719
Boxes are easy because they are straight
Challenge yourselves and draw beans from different angles

Don't draw the same thing twice as it leads to tunnel vision and imbalance skill set

>>6418739
my brother in christ, you're doing one point perspective, why the wonky lines? the closest and furthest plane of the boxes should be perfectly rectangular, i honestly don't understand what you were thinking when drawing these.

>>6418758
I'm mentally retarded plus I've literally never drawn a box before this point with the intention of making an actual one

>>6418710
You're supposed to draw BEANS?

Is it fine to just try to imagine the parts that I can't see? I know I should try to draw the whole thing but I really don't want to bother with the mecha right now.

Want to work on readability. Do you recognize this man?

>>6418830
Only one would be Walter White. Since he's popular enough and all that.

>>6418835
He's Terry Davis.

>>6418830

You're not at a point where you need to worry about likeness yet. You're at a point where you need to worry about being able to draw a convincing generic human. Work on your construction. Also I don't recognize him.

>>6418710
THIS NIGGA DRAWING BEANS!!!

>>6416394
>>6416395
Anon I think that you're drawing too small not leaving you enough space to add details, try using the whole page next time. And also the eyes look fucked up desu

>>6418830
>>6418837
I recognized him

>>6418595
thanks it's a ref

>>6418988

>>6418922
Thanks for the advice. Yeah, the entire thing just took half the page. Really should've drawn larger there. Eyes and hands are the things I struggle the most with, but I'm working on that.

I'm sorry for the stupid ass question

but how does someone study an art book?
do I just read the material until I understand or do I read and copy every illustration?

Da butcher

>>6418986
Anne frank?

>>6419109
I was thinking the same think while I was drawing.
Even had the slouch at first too.

why is it so hard to freehand a box holy shit

>>6419192
rape all boxes

Day 3 try 2 with Loomis' book and I quickly tired of the cartoon head construction thing which I practiced during a work thing so I skipped ahead and tried his method of human head construction, applying it to a reference and I think I'll just go back and do it right and go straight through, I wasn't ready to think about real human features as planes to be wrapped around bones

4chan please don't rotate this cropped image

>>6419255
approach it as if you were required to draw 1000 blooks by next Sunday, not, "I need to finish this book". Drawing is a skill, not a learned formula, so it takes repeated practice, even if you theoretically understand what you're doing

>>6418755
based bean enjoyer

>>6419262
That's kind of what I've been doing. If you're familiar with his book I got stunlocked at pages 18-20 because the Blook construction clicked for me and I was able to Loomestisize (to a degree) people's features. So I had fun with it for a few days to the tune of like 20 of these things and will continue to do so but was too eager and skipped his actual lessons on to a part of the book where I'm simply out of my depth. I have lots of Blooks and boxes galore to draw.

Does anyone find it difficult to draw black characters? Every feature I imagine to add comes with a low-key "don't, that's racist" from the phonies haunting my brain so I just don't or the character ends up looking European or Asian

>got about halfway done with a painting yesterday
>too scared to continue because I feel like I'll fuck it up

>>6419313
https://youtu.be/8ocmPR_EprE

you can skip to around 14:50

>>6417521
What's with the stain buddy?

>>6417521
If I were you I would make the hips bigger and butt bigger, but that is me. I made a red line for you hope you like it and if not it's okay. Enjoy your day and have a good holiday season.

>>6419349
Bro literally it's fucking grease from the grease dimension. I don't don't know. I've been in my house like Bill fuckin Nye running experiments and shit and still can't figure out where the grease stains come from. I have literally sat and watched 24 hour footage, sped up, of blank paper sitting on my desk and it didn't show up. It's like the fuckin double blind experiment on my drawing table man.

>>6419307
You’re not wrong. There’s nothing you could draw to make a black person distinctly black that wouldn’t be interpreted by some woke faggot as a racist caricature. And if you avoid that and just make them a white guy with black skin they’ll call you out for that, too. So the real question you have to ask yourself is whether you’re man enough to weather their faggotry.

>>6419374
kek

>>6419393
>double blind experiment
double slit* experiment, is the one where light acts like either a wave or a particle depending on whether it's observed or not
double blind is and experiment where the proctor and participant are both unaware of whether they're in the control group or not

>>6419393
>>6419440
>Bro literally it's fucking grease from the grease dimension.

>>6419307
>Every feature I imagine to add comes with a low-key "don't, that's racist" from the phonies haunting my brain
That's textbook brainwashing, my dear negro.
What you want to do is go the extreme so you get rid of that limiter that has been put on your brain and you won't have any of those retarded issues anymore.

>>6419393
I had a similar thing going on a while back, but it was never that color. It was like my paper had water droplets that wouldn't dry. Turns out, it was from putting my headset on the desk without thinking about it, and I guess the oils from my hair would soak into the paper. Now I just clean my headphones more often, but I still try to avoid putting them near paper just in case.
You might also have roaches or another pest, though. They're known for leaving behind stinky substances.

>>6419471
>Turns out, it was from putting my headset on the desk without thinking about it, and I guess the oils from my hair would soak into the paper.
I don't have a reaction image for this but this was it

Fucking hell man. I hope all this practice is going to pay off.

>>6419600
Reference

>>6419600
it won't

>>6419600
Start by mannequinizing your references. If you can't do that you gotta go back and learn how to.

>>6419349
That was basedsauce.
I spilled a drop

>>6419664
Thanks for the advice. Guess I'll have to look into what mannequinzing is and learn it.

>>6419680
the best video on it is from Proko, unironically

>>6419702
Will have a look. Thanks.

I tried drawing without lines for the first time and I would like some advice on the piece since I don't know how it goes very well. Things like the rendering or making it appealing would help.
Thanks in advance-

>>6419345
Rewatched the whole video and I guess I have been misusing sources. Finished it out without reference and it unsurprisingly looks shit.

My gf :D

>>6419743
I think the idea behind avoiding lines is less about making an appealing work of art, but rather trying to learn to make something read how you'd like without them. (Pic obviously not mine)

>>6419780
Must be nice having a bed where you can sleep, huh?

>>6417369
looks very good

I usually draw in 2550x3300 resolution, but everything feels so slow

What canvas size should I use for digital? I don't know which size is too small

>>6419812
cunny

>>6419805
what?
this is my gf Asa not a bed retard

>>6419782
That could be possible in a lot of cases, but I meant as something like pic related where its used in aesthetic way.
Thanks for the response.

>>6419844
I didn't mean it like that

Could use anatomy critique for this pose, and is the way her head is looking too awkward?

>>6419940
Sorry that was the old one, this is the updated one

I love tele"working," but now that I don't have to watch for emails or attend meetings and I'm all Loomied out.

>>6419945
Have you actually studied anatomy at all? If you have It doesn't look like it. You should probably study it before you ask for advice.

>>6419940
What the other anon said. I tried to get the forms but she's like a cheese wedge on a beach ball and nothing I did made it work, it needs changed fundamentally

>ought to do some study today
>already started in on some whiskey

>>6419863
I don't get it are you saying Asa is flat as in small breasts or that the drawing I made is flat as in looks 2D?
Im autistic so I genuinely can't tell desu

tried to recreate a painting i like

>>6419782
Liron is a saint of art for real

>>6420008
Something about his style is off putting. I think I like saturated colors too much.

>>6420045
A little, yeah. His YouTube has some insanely good explanations in it though.

>Pro artists use G-pen by jacking up the brush size so that the tapering becomes more fine tuned to make those blush lines and other forms of cool shading
>They also trace the same line so that it looks like its one continuous line when its really multiple lines

So many digital art tricks I gotta learn.

>>6420099
>They also trace the same line so that it looks like its one continuous line when its really multiple lines
I still can't do this to save my life. Every time I try to draw a continuation I'm off by half a mm or the angle is wrong.

>>6420109
If you really want to do it like that use vector layers

>>6420099
Do you have a source for this information? I believe you but am interested in seeing a video of it to see how it works

Hello beg. Today session felt absolutely hopeless and it felt extremely useless. Kill me

>>6419984
you shouldn't drink and drive but you can definitely drink and draw
>>6419818
get a better (in performance) app like GIMP or SAI, get better computer or reduce the resolution or (color) precision of canvas
>>6419743
essentially all paintings are without outlines. There are hundreds of books about it. My shitty shedule involves two pieces without outlines. The exercise is gesture > trace gesture to draw contour > trace contour to make final study
>>6419307
put EMPHASIS on the racial specific features. It will generate better picture. Break from the society cucks and yell NIGGER while you are drawing massive lips and chin so protruded it could crush rocks
>>6419108
could use some values but its thumbs up from me
>>6419075
depends on the book but the common advice i have seen is to read it and first copy 1:1 the drawings and then either draw the picture from memory or use different reference of "same" subject" and draw that in same style / process. Or you have book like i have which literally tells you what to do (draw for 3 hours in schedule 19B which contains like 5 exercises)
>>6418695
you can try to use various sighting techniques but these deal with comparing 1 measure relatively to other. I am not sure what is there to sight at single cube. To get angle right just hold the pen vertically and remember how sharp the angle of line is
>>6418594
respectable anime
>>6418436
yes
>>6418131
sticky is full for INT books, all of them deal with construction. Vilpu, proko, bridgeman... just pick your poison
>>6417618
amen anon, its exactly as my book says
>you cannot truthfully portray vision without a knowledge of the facts which underlie it
>>6416431
god damn thats some nice soulful contours, very nice

>>6416301
>>6417323
according to book drawing on the right side of the brain, even turbo old boomers can improve drastically. Think like age 60+

pic very much related

>>6418416
back to the ocean floor you go

>>6420222
Thanks for the help.
Will check it

>>6419987
>Asa is flat

>>6420220
nta but I first noticed it watching one of Ina's painting videos when she was doing the lines

>>6420220
I saw it in a video course by Onishio Yukio where she was redrawing her students art. These jap artists teach each other and have way more teaching materials. We gaijins gotta become super scientific and extract all the techniques by observing timelapses and so on.

>>6419108
sovlful

Schizo spider, I think I might be over rendering.

Tried drawing my bottle of whiskey and glass. Both are awkward shapes.

bros!!!!!!!!!!!11 what the fuck how do i fix this, i just started using sai and i really like it but this pisses me off
in my actual paintings i use clipping for everything so this shit i need to work and it FUCKING WONT

sorry about the shitty music, i didnt mean to have it in the back
https://files.catbox.moe/6sadb3.mp4
i woudlve made it a webm but the quality already turned to fucking feet and it was 3.1 mb and the fucking ART BOARD FOR SOME RETARDED REASON DOESNT HAVE BIGGER FILE SIDES

>>6420341
Draw it again desu senpai

>>6420345
FUCK THAT SHIT ITS GONNA TAKE SO GODDAMN LONG BRUH

HOW IS SAI SO GOOD BUT ALSO SO INCREDIBLY FUCKING SHIT AT THE SAME TIME

You niggers didn't get the memo about AI Art?

>>6420349
Ai will never be able to draw yugioh fanart so i do not care about

>>6420338
Turn them into simple forms anon, mines not perfect but you get the idea

>>6420349
Gives me a reason not to approach digital art.

>>6420355
The bottom of a glass was is a pentagon, would you still start from a circle?

>>6420349
A pointless macguffin. Art for money has always been an abusive relationship at best and a delusional pipe dream at worst. Drawing and rendering is still a skill worth many hours of mastery, and the same rule of "lol but who cares, the computer/some other guy does it better" applies to everything so if you're applying that logic to AI art logically it should apply to the rest of your life and you shouldn't get out of bed. But you did. Why? Because AI art doesn't take skill out of hands, it just humbles the retards tracing anime art in krita because before AI art, they WERE "AI art." Shit changes nothing, basically the same logic as "you made dinner? you know uhhh mcdolan's exists??"

>>6420359
Circle inside a square

>>6420359
yeah

What compels you guys to draw? For me a strong desire to create something as well as fear of how short life is leads me to doing it daily.

I want to prove that I lived to myself

>>6420367
That's a noble reason anon.
For me it's for fulfilling my fantasies and adapt what I imagine

>>6420370
>For me it's for fulfilling my fantasies
This is partly true for me as well, I want to be able to put my imagination to paper

>>6418304
Yes sir
>>6418311
Thanks for taking the time to redline anon
>>6418480
Hair, hairband and folds
>>6420222
Thank you

>>6420255
>These jap artists teach each other and have way more teaching materials. We gaijins gotta become super scientific and extract all the techniques by observing timelapses and so on.
Is it even worth it when you know stuff like that, you will never be able to reach even half of their level, what's the point

any one use watercolor pencils?

>>6419487
Wow, the season finale of Greaseanon is fantastic. I never saw that twist coming

>>6420397
Is there anything you've used to practice or learn rotating figures? Ive seen you do it on some others and I can think about it but accurately conveying it is harder.

gonna get famous with my corny ass NFT art enjoy being infinitely obfuscated behind a wall of machine learning and consumption of your values.

Spend debt, slam pus, face to divinity. SchiOUT its ok. We waiting for you.

>>6420222

I've only seen a few of your pictures a while back but you ARE improving I believe but it's really subtle. Keep at it brah.

>>6420360
Besides just being annoyed at people spamming AI-art and drowning out the actual people drawing, I genuinely don't see why people are panicking about it. It's just going to turn into another tool to use and the question of what art has SOUL or not hasn't really changed since last I check AI-artists didn't suddenly take the place of the most popular artists. I checked out a few random posts and they aren't suddenly getting tons of comments or likes besides a few exceptions.

>>6420477
I would suggest building your figure with simple forms such as boxes like in >>6411668 might be bad advice since I don't do it myself. I used to use lines to represent the body and limbs but now I just wing it, everything in teal is the first layer.
>>6416317
from easiest to hardest (personally)
>copying reference
>changing pose
>drawing from memory
>changing angle

>>6420507
excellent study anon! what medium? pen?

>>6420562
thanks, it's digital using one of the pencil tools from pic related
>>6420397
nice anon, where do you find the pictures you use for studying?

If I had a week off and wanted like a book or a short course to go through with exercises and obvious instruction with the subject being anatomy/figure drawing and wanted to maximize my learning, what should I get/do?

Books, courses, etc,

>>6420648
depends on what level you're at

>>6420660
As far as anatomy, might as well be zero. I took a figure drawing class but have since slid back into drawing a very basic “skeleton” of basic shapes onto the reference and then taking that aside and drawing the rest.

>>6420662
Example of my simple art showing a mostlyish full body. Somewhat.

>>6420673
>>6420662
>>6420660
>>6420648
I just feel overwhelmed with so much to tackle, I want a book or something that will give me guidance on practice/etc.

>>6420673
I too love the gobs
Can someone tell me how to draw that section of the body that connects hips to waste to upper torso. I’m not sure which side looks correct also her hips are asymmetric but yeah and eyes are weird idk

a quicky

>>6420723
How quick is quicky

>>6420729
around 15 min i guess

>>6420241
that's her name nigger, Mitaka Asa

>>6420773
Fucking retard nigger faggot

>>6420714

>>6420819
pathetic

Moar practice

Almost done, just have to do some finishing touches (sharpening saome shapes) and finishing the respirator tube.

>>6420883
Hot

Trying to start doing my 50% rule properly, no references (for now), and not worrying about drawing things I feel ill equipped to tackle. Got the body laid out but I've already fucked the paper to death in some places such that pencil won't lift up fully so I think this is as far as I can take this.

>>6420819
Wait a burger flipping second

>>6420681
just pick any anatomy book, Anatomy for Sculptors, or stonehouse is pretty good

>>6420883
>stormtrooper_wip

>>6420507
tried recalling, forgot a lot of things...

Think I'm ready to move on from ellipses.

>>6421486
Looks more dynamic though

>>6420571
I use Pinterest, it only shows me asian girls now though

>>6421407
For the 50% rule right on the outset (I assume this is drawabox 50%) just get Keys to Drawing or Loomis'book and do the stuff in there. You'll quickly develop noob skills to go along with the perspective work and practice becomes worthwhile and satisfying.

>>6421637
At least to my understanding, the 50% rule is supposed to be specifically not study. Once I'm done with draw a box I will probably do some anatomy work. I think bridgman's is the one I wanted to try.

How come my brain is able to tell me my drawing is shit but isn't smart enough to tell me how to fix it?

>>6421662
You've looked at more stuff than you've drawn stuff

>>6417766
Hey Lois, I turned myself into sovl.

>>6420856
Someone's been watching Telepurte.

new bread
>>6422149
>>6422149
>>6422149
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