/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6409552

>>6409552
They simply shift the blame to AI fags.

>>6409557
Well, they trained the model, they are responsible for picking what materials is appropriate for the training. And I am confident in the ability of Disney's legal team in taking down Laion even.

>>6409552
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but its just links! I swear sirs we dindu nuffin!
These shitters are so fucked lol

>>6409552
Is school day off today?
Go back to /g/ with your shitposting

>>6409561
Disney is one of the biggest researchers in this tech, they don't give a shit.

https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/

>>6409566
>>6409555
>linking your /g/ thread and then spamming the same posts on other boards
You pajeets are mentally unhinged.

>>6409568
Check the link, it’s anti ai litigation.

>>6409564
As I said, they would want exclusive access to the models which produce their characters, locking the training data behind shit tons of licensing fees to artists would be good for them

>>6409564
I think anti AI thread is fine. Cant just ignore AI like its nothing ofcourse the shill gonna come but who cares

>>6409563
What link?

>>6409591
https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/
This one obviously.

>successfully sue AI devs and force them to rebuild their databases from scratch
>set AI back 2 years at most
>congratulations we have saved human art

there is nothing anyone can do to stop this from happening, at best you delay it by a marginal amount of time. what is the point?

Every actual artist who has spent years honing their skills has an insane advantage over the brainless masses coom prompting out vomit right now but that won't last forever.

Stop coping and adapt or you'll be seething in a few years because you pissed away your edge

>>6409552
Oh, you poor little snowflake. You think you're so smart, talking about copyright laws and big corpo. But let me tell you, you're just a pawn in The Game. You're just a pawn, being played by the real players, the ones who know how to manipulate the system and get what they want.

And what do you want? You want to protect the intellectual property of Mickey Mouse and Disney, huh? Well, let me tell you something. Mickey Mouse is already dead, drowned in a sea of knock-offs and parodies. Disney is already dead, eaten alive by the same greedy corporations that you're trying to defend.

So go ahead, keep playing your little game of copyright and intellectual property. Keep pretending that you matter, that you have any power. But in the end, you're just a pawn, a pawn in The Game. And The Game will always win

>>6409594
meds

>>6409593
>>6409594
This reads like chatgpt ngl

>>>/g/90214522
It's just a kid shitposting from /g/.
Report and move on.

>>6409599
if you can't tell, does it matter?

>>6409591
>What Does Content Scraping Mean?

>Content scraping is an illegal way of stealing original content from a legitimate website and posting the stolen content to another site without the knowledge or permission of the content's owner. Content scrapers often attempt to pass off stolen content as their own, and fail to provide attribution to the content’s owners.

>Content scraping can be accomplished via manual copy and paste, or may use more sophisticated techniques, such as using special software, HTTP programming or HTML or DOM parsers.

>Much of the content that falls prey to scraping is copyrighted material; reposting it without the copyright owner’s permission is a punishable offense. However, scraper sites are hosted all over the world, and scrapers who are asked to remove copyrighted content may just switch the domains or disappear.

>>6409552
should sue your parents for giving birth to a useless piece of shit like you

>>6409591
>now liable for permanent damages
that picture isnt helping you ai shitters the way you think it does

>>6409602
same could be asked about lab meat and trannies
i'm not afraid of technology, but to pretend that it isn't deeply disturbing means you're either not being honest with yourself, you're a shill, or you have mental illness, or maybe even all of the above

>>6409561
what laws have they broken exactly, in your imagination?
am i commiting theft by looking at your posts too?

>>6409601
kek he thinks no one can tell but it's so obvious because no one here actually gives a fuck about AI enough to make a thread

>>6409609
not that anon but i'm trying to formulate an argument to refute this point
ok, so if a human looks at my work and uses it for inspiration and reference, that's not too unlike a computer, right? isn't that what you're saying? and i get where you're coming from.
except that a human has to decide if it's worth the effort and/or if the quality of my work is worth referencing in their work. also, current U.S. copyright laws afford certain protections (like photobashing my work and selling it)
AI models 1.) expend zero effort 2.) will incorporate/steal my work even if it's low quality because it's used for training and you don't want to ONLY feed it high quality art, and that's subjective anyways
we should at least try to find a way to agree that it's not a fair comparison and work from there

>>6409601
the fact that this is all they can do while there is real class action lawsuits going on is quite comforting

>>6409629
>steal
there you go, using that word you don't understand

>>6409635
that the best you got? ok, so let's just remove that word from the argument. i'm ok with that.

>>6409637
then what's the point of this whole thread?
if there's no theft, why would anyone sue?

>>6409642
>then what's the point of this whole thread?
The point of this thread is flaming, it's just someone wanting to troll
>>6409601

>>6409642
i suppose what it boils down to is the data. do i own the pixels/bits that are arranged in that very specific way? because i believe that i do. and looking at an image as reference is not the same as having a bit-by-bit copy of my data in your AI model. even people with photographic memories would be hard-pressed to copy a work of pixel art pixel-by-pixel perfectly.

>>6409647
>having a bit-by-bit copy of my data in your AI model
good thing that's not what's happening or you may have had an actual case of copyright infringements

>>6409630
Multiple now. Some /g/ nigger ddos’d the main site so they’re getting scared lmao.

>>6409650
nice, looking forward to receiving 33$ in 4 years while AI art has already taken over 95% of artist jobs

>>6409591
Can confirm this, I've analysed every single picture on Danbooru and memorised the patterns of pixels based on tags. I'm not able to draw anything from real life I must see someone else's work first.

>>6409650
You know whats even better? This is all around the same time that Linkedin won its 6 year long lawsuit against HiQ fpr scraping their data. Even the defense of "b-but the information was public!" couldn't save them
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/LinkedIn-Wins-Latest-Court-Battle-Against-Data-Scraping/635938/
Say it with me boys L E G A L P R E C E D E NT

>>6409656
>6 year long lawsuit
Aware

>>6409652
Cuck mindset.
If you no longer have a career make it your new mission to make sure the nigger that ruined your life doesn’t get to enjoy hxrs. Life is full of surprises and guns.

>>6409652
Well programmers could lose their job even faster considering you can query the AI in plain english to get workable code.

>>6409658
>precedent

>>6409603
>posting the stolen content to another site without the knowledge or permission of the content's owner.
?

>>6409663
?

>>6409666
where was that illegal content posted?
kinda the whole point of the definition, isn't it?

>>6409667
You tell me Emad. Or better yet, the judge

>>6409649
/ic/ is so fucking stupid they think that's what happening. The lawsuit has nothing to do with copyright infringement. It's claiming github is using its own public repos under OPEN-SOURCE licenses without giving a wink at each coder.

>>6409603
>indexing links is fraud now
Yeah nice you got the little baby intro into content scraping and now you want to larp as a lawyer. Too bad it's not relevant. Come on down and accuse /g/ of content scrapping though could use the novel entertainment.

There’s a very simple solution you can do right now.
Paywall your art and only post cropped, low res, watermarked examples to social media. If an ai nigger wants access to your image charge them for it.

They’re obviously swimming in nft/crypto cash so they can easily afford the $10,000 fee.

>>6409670
>indexing links is fraud now
thought you weren't doing anything with links anon? Which is it LMFAO
YOU SHILLS CAN'T EVEN AGREE ON YOUR OWN SHIT POSTING

>>6409552
>AntI before AI
Fuck Disney making copyright law into whatever they want!! Mickey mouse should be public domain by now!!
>After AI
Please daddy Disney sue the robots so I can get gas money from drawing big titty anime girls standing in an empty void.

>>6409656
Personal data, people take it way more seriously, for good reasons.

love me some samefagging on my false flag posts
you're all just arguing with like 2 guys at most

>>6409671
>protect your art by making sure nobody sees it
>the only people who'll get to see it will be AI users running it through SD upscale

o-ok

>>6409674
how does my ass taste emad

>>6409673

>>6409672
>can't distinguish dataset from model
>frog poster
Okay I understand why choose to dunning-krueger it up here. Stay in your lane, doodler.

>>6409673
Artfags are IP tyrants no different from patent whoring abusers. Who knew.

>>6409688
>index
>"no we use links"
which is it nigger lmao

>>6409678
You don’t know how commissions and patreon work do you. Don’t worry you can pay the special 10k usd fee. Rupees work too, just remember to sell your family cow/bride to help offset the costs.

>>6409688
>Stay in your lane, doodler.
>talking about technology
>on /ic/

>>6409693
you don't know how AI art generation works do you.

if you want to protect your "super special unique artstyle pls do not copy" then you can't post anything more than a handful of pictures.

who's going to subscribe to your dogshit patreon if you don't advertise it with your art?

yes your mom and her boyfriend will get you all the way to 2 subs but for people not living in basements that's not enough to live on

AI faggots coping so fucking hard in this thread. AI isn't going to be regulated because of artists btw, its going to be regulated because the USA and every other country views deepfake content as a national security threat.
Like just imagine this for a second. You put a few keywords into the AI and it spits out a video of the CEO of microsoft talking about all your accomplishments as a lead developer and product manager. You send this recommendation and a bunch of deepfaked resumes and references to FAANG and manage to bullshit your way to a six figure career. And no one can call you out on your bullshit because the videos are indistinguishable from a real one.
Imagine all the scammers that are going to deepfuck your grandma into debt now that they can pretend to be you by making a video of how your stranded in Ohio cuz all they need is your facebook photo and her number. Imagine Russia deepfaking Joe Biden, some idiot slips up, and Russia now has USAs nuclear codes.
No one gives a flying fuck about this shit when it comes to art. Its a very dangerous tool and you're all letting that fact fly over your heads, holy fuck.

>"The artist, who is typically low IQ and uneducated as fuck about fuck all, wants to argue about suing AI for the nth time"
Why watch comedians tell jokes when you can just witness artists being themselves?
>inb4 poo ai supremacist gfag
>inb4 u just haet artust n r jellus
>inb4 retarded opinions, emotional arguments and parroting the overdone absolutely ignorant takes like the underage niggers you are
Post your works

>/g/ dumbasses getting baited by other /g/ fags on an /ic/ thread made by a /g/ fag
/ic/ doesn’t move this fast lmao

>>6409711
Let them be their board is overrun by bots and doomposting.

>>6409705
>took the time to make that image and write all that out
You doing alright bro? The lawsuit is already here my guy. It'll all be over soon...

>>6409688
>you will not own your drawings
>you will not own your idea
kys commie

jesus the /ic/ cope is magical.

Also deepfaking is a good thing, if a public figure gets deep faked they likely deserved it. AI deepfaking is the only tool the plebs have against the globohomo elite and keeping even a minute check on their power.

>>6409570
My bad.

>>6409670
Yeah, I am sure none of those 1 billion links contains material scraped from other places illegally. And no pirate site which doesn't host files has been taken down.

>>6409607
>same could be asked about lab meat and trannies
You can tell the difference with these, so the pojnt still stands.