/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6407042
>I HAVE NO FUNDIES AND I MUST DRAW

It's a chameleon

>shopping at thrift store
>find wacom small pen tablet
>30 leafbucks
>download Krita to test
>actually works quite nicely

Alright anons. I seem pretty stoked to get into digital drawing as a hobby. I've recently turned 25. How many years did it take for you lads to git gud at digital drawing with practice say every weekend?

>>6407048
>25
Dont bother, it's too late bro.

I'm doing fine, right?

>>6407048
Make it 5 mins a day
Start on paper
Your only goal is to harness discipline, whatever you make does not matter

Breaking from lvl0-1 is the hardest part. After that, it gets easier and easier

>>6407053
I am 27.
My favorite artist is DSmile who started at 30 and he is over 60 now

>>6407053
My job affords me way too much time on my hands so maybe I can catch up.
>>6407063
Holy that is inspirational.
>Breaking from lvl0-1 is the hardest part. After that, it gets easier and easier
I guess for this "breaking from lvl0-1" 5 mins a day thing should be me watching and following drawing tutorials on paper first? Or something else beyond that?

>>6407075
Just draw.
Discipline and hand-eye coordination is the first and most difficult skill to learn.

Start on paper so you can see your fingers

I don't know if I should even be lining.

>>6407080
I forgot to attach my drawing.

>>6407048
if you can draw 2 hours a day, you can get pretty good in 2 years. with 30 minutes a day, maybe 4 years Forget it, though, if you can only draw weekends

Redid the thing still using the old paper because I have too many newsprint remaining and I want to use all the reams for drawing practice. I guess I have to get use of drawing with a pen from now on. I just hope that this will improve my hand movement even I am drawing in limited space.

>>6407042
Been practicing some shading with india ink before I tackle watercolors for the first time. Any thoughts, tips?

My progress with this piece

>>6407093
I love this

>>6407081
This is how its going.

So recently on /tg/ a friend on the drawthread gave me some advice when it comes to line works. What I used the map pen for the linework of a pic of River from Armello. line work aside, I tried to follow his advice of using loose shapes before refined shapes. Though I would like some feedback. How is it compared to my other works? (will be shown in a later reply.)

I feel like i somehow found a lost piece in my art journey.

>>6407126
Simple fix anon. making more anatomy studies will help

>>6407139
my older pic. but from 2021

>>6407139
>>6407141
Looks alot better yeah although a year of progress could do that too no?
Also what's the map pen and what does it do?

>>6407165
functions a lot different than the G pen. I set the G pen to react to pressure for the sake of line weight. but I think after a few tries and adjustment to the map pen, I may stick wtih it. This is the tutorial the guy went out of his way to make for me. Kudos to that glorious hero of the /tg/ drawthread!

>>6407165
Also thanks!

>>6407140
You're right. Moved things and redrew the ear and brow ridge afterwards. This looking better?

>>6407094
i think its funny to imagine what the back of that tree looks like

>>6407184
I saw more things wrong. I'm going to bed.

>>6407257
The rare improover

https://youtu.be/yjv4Xr-WwVA?list=PLMXbAPr21di_-1K8CMTAdIUZ-qhxwZwgS

>>6407214
It's more hands

>>6407288
gigachad jaw

quick painting of a frog. bout an hour and a half.

>>6407046
nice. we tradbros have to stick together.

>>6407357
This stretched flat image of a flower is hilarious. Dont forget reflex next time.

>>6407373
iunno what reflex is.

>>6407336
Yes.
>>6407357
Looks nice. Is that from that gamestop classic battletoads?
>>6407288

Hello beg. Reject anatomy, return to boneless doodles cause this is madness out of my ability

>>6407357
lmao at the background. and i kneel for that frog
>>6407058
i guess yes
>>6407048
>every weekend
try every day anon
>>6407046
the chameleon is kinda serviceable but it looks very flat on various places. However what is absolutely not up the BEG standards is the branch hes on top and background could be way more interesting than pure black. You are in trad anon. You have massive advantage: you can just dip brush into leftover color and make some pattern for the background.

Can I create any value with white and black paint?

>>6407139
Your work is much cuter without the thick outer lines yes

>>6407421
Well daily is clearly not working for you

>>6407449
oof

>>6407391

>>6407424
You can mix them?

>>6407438
Think so? let me try.

>>6407042
I'm awful at drawing from life, especially things that are perspective heavy.

I find it hard to render slight tilts and so on.
The very dark lines around Z have a bit less contrast on the paper.

>>6407438
>>6407519
looks a bit different, but it feels I am getting close to Dubbawide's style in a way. Thoughts on it, gentelmen?

>>6407539
No he meant your most recent work is cuter BECAUSE of the thinner outlines.

yall already know i'm on that gesture hamster wheel. this time digital

>>6407554
Well....I am an idiot! XD

>>6407539
Maybe you could try re doing the same image but with your current style? Idk about the technical aspect, to me it looked good before as well, I like your current work better because of the line work. I can't tell if you were having problems with the shapes before, maybe you did during the sketching? Because both of the drawings look nice

>>6407591
That can be worth a try, but for now, I am just throwing things at a wall and see what sticks. Next will probably be a pic of either Brun or Thane as sumo wrestlers. Maybe both with magna as a background character.

>>6407063
>My favorite artist is DSmile who started at 30 and he is over 60 now
Sauce?

>>6407136
Blog?

>>6407538
Nice work on a very difficult subject. You could have gone darker with values, but pencil is a hard medium to make look good.

>>6407610
I have a twitter account but i wiped out my shit so there is no reason to post it

>>6407614
>but i wiped out my shit
Why?

>>6407615
I hate my art and i barely have any followers anyway(30)

>>6407613
Thank you.

Very busy day, not a lot of time to draw at work on the clock. Maybe I'll do more if I can finish cardio and core and not be too tired.

Haven't been drawing as much as I should due to moving countries after getting into art school... but acquired some new skills.

>>6407079
Nice details

>>6407850

i can't draw faces
i can't draw faces
i can't draw faces

>>6407931
they look kinda cute
let's see you try coloring them?

>>6407931
meidos are cool

>>6407935
>>6407940
Thank you
It's obvious that my expectations are to high but man faces are the only thing i struggle so much even with refs since unless it's perfect it looks like shit to me

>>6407949
that is how your human brain is wired to work
it's normal to notice even the slightest flaws in faces, far more noticeable than any other part of the body

>>6407931
good luck fkey study anon

>>6407850
holy schizo

Getting started, I shake my head, corrections to come, but not posted.

so I kinda finally got rid of my habit of only making time consuming finished works and started to sketch more to grow my visual library and learn more.

But now my friends say they like my dumb scratchcore sketches more than the clean works I spent 6+ hours on. I hate art.

>>6407980
you are going to hate me but fucking saved

>>6407538
>>6407613
Very inspiring, i'm encouraged to draw more difficult subjects because of this, I love your keyboard drawing anon

I would like to have some advice on background color. I feel that the blue sky may just feel off. but i dont wanna leave white background. Any color advice? or maybe something to add in the background behind the wooden walls?

>>6407992
wow, thank you, that's actually the best compliment I could get.

but idk I'm confused about this, on one hand I'm glad it made me sketch more, on the other hand I feel influenced by others and the fact it kinda swayed me from my original path. I hope this doesn't mean I'll become an easily influenced trendhopper in the future.

Still new to digital this one is no reference

this one is no reference

Whats the trick to getting rid of that grey outline left around the character? Also how to get smoother lines? It seems even with anti aliasing the lineart seems jagged

Looks like I can do almost any angle without a ref.

Bones beg. Beg bones. end me. Drawing anatomy like this as beg is maximum pain

>>6407998
You used low saturation colors on everything but the skies. And as such the sky is unnaturally "too blue". Just de-saturate the sky a bit (so its more grayish) and it will match the rest
>>6407976
Very good!
>>6407906
cute
>>6407850
how is art school anon? is it as bad as all rumors say? that they dont teach you anything practical and its all about sucking dick of professor and swearing loyalty to radical left wing in order to get patron? Also why do you draw one piece multiple times?
>>6407538
Its not bad at all and even shows form. I recommend you to get charcoal stick (both black and white/brown) if you want to stick to trad longer. It will make shading large areas a breeze and improve your results. Also in drawings like this, learn to use eraser as final stage where you erase the hard white edges (like the spot on left bottom where table merges into keyboard). You gently erase tiny line there which will definitely separate keyboard and table.
>>6407424
obviously yes https://thepostmansknock.com/the-beginners-guide-to-crosshatching/
>>6407449
lmao i am ended
>>6408023
use eraser with hard edges to clean the line. you cannot really make sharp edge with soft brush/eraser

i've never drawn anything complex from imagination nor have i gone beyond basic gesture in figure drawing so i did a quick test where i drew a figure from imagination starting from gesture to (basic) construction then outline to test my progress so far. it was a tough pose that i don't think i've ever practiced before so you can see where my imagination was failing me on how i should kick the one leg back which is also kicked back at the wrong angle. the right hip also looks funny mainly due to how wide the hips ended up but overall i'm pretty happy with the outcome even though it's unfinished. i gave myself limited time so below was sort of a take two doing gesture only which i think captured the pose a bit better especially the back leg. i'll need to practice some construction and proportions in the mean time and next time i do this i'll need to draw bigger so i can get the face

>>6408038
>how is art school anon? is it as bad as all rumors say? that they dont teach you anything practical and its all about sucking dick of professor and swearing loyalty to radical left wing in order to get patron? Also why do you draw one piece multiple times?
Not sure haven't enrolled in the subjects yet. I just got an offer after applying. It's ranked one of the top art schools in the world and I managed to get into a non-art course so my plan is to transfer to an art course next semester after getting decent grades.

>>6408023
use a vector layer to draw lines maybe?

>>6408038
I went to the layer settings and mess around with the saturation. This looks so much better. thanks!

>>6408057
>>6408038
faaack forgot image

>>6408048
That was on a vector layer
>>6408038
thanks

>>6408078
guess you just have to up your resolution/dpi then

>>6408080
already draw at 600 dpi and 4768 x 3200

>>6407079
i hope you post in the mechanisation thread with that skill

You’re a bunch of stupid fucking fucktards

But what specifically makes you say that

>>6408120
I dont, this is my first time formally drawing a mech, it has been an interesting experience so far.

>>6408154
vry qt sketch

>>6408154
>>6408164
>>6408166
need to work on your lines friend let's see some confidence

>>6407906
>>6407931
>>6407136
lick lick
>>6408136
nice

>>6407850
I haven't visited /beg/ in ages and yeah I haven't drawn much either but holy kek now I have the freshest eyes to say you aren't getting any better at this rate, schizo.

>>6408269
Try to do 4 different expressions at different angles for the same character on the same page like this >>6408033 and we can compare. I doubt you are much better. I think I've made my point that my faces are solid. This is where Vilppu comes in.

I’m sure it varies from person to person, but how many sketches or rough drafts should I do before finalizing line art? Too often, I draw something, give some edits, then once I’ve gotten the lineart done and colored it, I immediately hate it. I’ll try the ‘flip the canvas’ trick, but I feel like I should be able to see these things better.

>>6407042
how do we feel about tracing as a form of practice? I am just starting out doing this and I know it is a bad habit but I must do it to achieve my short term coomer fantasies.

Is it a decent way to potentially learn anatomy?

>>6408332
imo it's pretty much useless. You're here to learn to draw the lines on your own

>>6408332
don't trace for the sake of tracing
trace to compare against lines you've drawn and see where your observation ability can improve

>>6407184
>>6407257
Mouth is out way too far.
>>6407357
That flower is funny as fuck and now I’m saving this to remember to try that. Reminds me of old vidya.

Testing this idea.

>>6407048
if you already have solid fundamentals, not too long. for me i was drawing basically every day when i first transitioned from trad to dig and got fairly acquainted with it all within about 5-6 months. for more regular speed practice around 1-2 years should be enough to get you more than comfortable with ghe medium

What they did to Rayman was tragic, just look over the concept sketches for part 4.

>>6408415
>can't even get into smash
It's over.

>>6408416
yeah smash sux, try powerstone

What could I do to make this pic pop more, especially with respect to the background? I think a lot of my stuff ends up looking kind of drab

>>6408431
Forgot pic, I'm rarted

>>6408432
Add a background and push the braziers back. What are recent seasons of south park like?

>>6408370
Update

>>6408432
There’s no brights to the image. You have your dark tone. You have your middle tone. Where are the lights Mansly?

>>6407042

>>6408467
Dual wielding dildos

what brush should i use for my lineart if i wanna copy marc brunet and i'm on krita?

>>6408487
Damn I cant unsee now

>>6407042
do you guys start with gesture and then build up the form or am i missing something?

>>6408570
I draw a stickman

>>6408502
Just use whatever, then copy your linework into a separate layer and apply gaussian blur on it. Then merge the layers. You're welcome.

>>6408570
no I do it the other way around

https://youtu.be/6CrwbU23G28?list=PLMXbAPr21di_-1K8CMTAdIUZ-qhxwZwgS

A very small drill for "nails and 3d prints" even my drawing on a4 is sligthly bigger than its real size. Many very narrow ovals and it's not a cylinder.

Will AI improve faster than a beg getting to pro? Should I learn AI over traditional drawing?

>>6408635
why not learn traditional drawing and see where you and ai end up in a year. worst case, you have a better understanding of aesthetics and art fundamentals

>>6408635
AI output is very narrow and limited, it won't be able to dream up all your perverted fetishes very soon

>do copy attempt
>post on /asg/
>get dismissive replies
Should I just stay here?

Other than the glaring obvious issues of the hands, yugioh hair, and poor attempt at clothe folds, whats massively wrong here?
I flipped canvas and what not but it looks ok to my eyes
i want to paint it so cheap lineart doesnt actually bother me too much here

>>6408680
You should go where you'll get better the most.

I got lazy and just fucking traced a photo. I'm such a loser

>>6408687
Tracing is legit hard. You have to decide what goes and what stays. Not an easy task for a /beg/. Keep your chin up, anon.

>>6408687
Who cares if you had fun?

>>6408282
i like it

>>6408687
Doing portraits is the lowest of art so it doesn't matter if you traced. The important is to have fun

>>6408680
do you use their copying techniques?

"lowest" of art is anime girl in a void

>>6408781
what are you referencing

>>6408126
Would appreciate a crit or redline. I think I can tell something is not right in connecting the twist of the torso to the hips.

Looked better in my outline before I added the santa clothes. Tyy

>>6408617

>>6408803
>>6408126
That's a cool reference.
Your image is hard to look at with the harsh colors
Might wanna play with the hue's a bit.

>>6408803
Source of reference?

>>6408814
Kinda wrong

>>6408090
Dude, I'm the anon who asked for your refs, sorry for taking so long.

I think you're tackling Tom's work quite well, but in the excitement to bite the cool meaty stuff that anatomy as a whole is you're forgetting to do some basic things like measuring and comparing proportions.

For example, when drawing faces in profile you consistently elongate the face too much, throwing off the rest of the body's proportions. If we erase the heads on the two seated figures here in this study the bodies don't look bad, but if we compare the head size with the body on the second figure we can see that the whole torso is two heads high only.

Funny thing is, you mess up way more drawing heads in profile than 3/4 or front facing. Maybe there's some remnants of symbol drawing going on there. I believe a couple of days studying to fix this issue would make a world of difference going forward.

30 min before sleep. Biggest from ref, other not. Still can't get into the right proportions right away, but at least the speed makes me happy.

I'm back guys. You know I'm not sure I'm grasping this whole watercolor thing just yet. How do you make 'light' pop out more? do you just leave it blank and dont add water/light grey tone to the edges where the light is brighter?
Same for the darker tones , do you just dry brush it and lightly mix with water to create a gradient or can I mix with black ink?

Also on a sort of related question, have any of you tried selling your designs/drawings using that POD model? You know, t-shirts, mugs, caps, and all that.

>>6407099
Thanks anon, sorry about the late reply I've been trying to unravel the mysteries of color.
If you dont mind me asking a market research question, would you buy a logo/design like that on a sticker, or a t-shirt? If so how much would you pay for it? I'm thinking about opening up an online store and give the t-shirt sales side hustle business a try.

>>6408742
Thanks, I like dogs and frogs

>>6408911
>I'm back guys. You know I'm not sure I'm grasping this whole watercolor thing just yet. How do you make 'light' pop out more? do you just leave it blank and dont add water/light grey tone to the edges where the light is brighter?
I just found this channel and wonder if it can help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUiWYCycrFo

>>6408888
Checked and thank you very much for the critique. You're definitely right about my proportions, I've always had a habit of drawing the heads too big.

>>6408926
Thanks for sharing the video anon, its oddly mesmerizing. I need to get me some of that masking fluid ASAP. Its really helpful to see the process like this, I had part of it down, start light and make your way down to the darker tones.

Still I cant help feeling terribly afraid of ruining a good pencil drawing with my shoddy coloring.

I dont know how you guys do it. I'll look into gouache and then using black ink pens for the outlines, it gives me a false sense of security.

No reference, I did this from imagination and I'm not sure where did i go wrong or what's the main culprit, if it's the pose or if it's the anatomy. I'll definitely say those legs do look the weirdest even if i can't actually put my finger on the issue.
Excuse the chicken scratching btw, i'm pretty new to this.

>>6408911
Neat colours

Struggling with rotating the head and not symbol drawing. I'm learning, but my effort is hampered by mistakes early in the process. Only after I was done could I see that the nose could have been more to the left side and that the eyes are too asymmetrical.

sovl?

Hello beg, how are you preparing for xmas?

>>6409060
I dont know what you mean by rotating but as BEG you should always draw from reference and once you level up your observation skills you can attempt advanced stuff
>>6409033
Reference anon. Use it. Head to body ration is weird
>>6408950
you could try to be advanced about it and use copy machine or tracing paper so you have "backup"
>>6408806
Nice! I did eyes today as well
>>6408684
You cut their feet off. Draw the FEET. The girl has wider tits than her hips. That looks very weird. Usually women have bigger ass than tits.
>>6408680
Idk about other threads, but i assume crabs are everywhere. Gotta be strong to make it! Btw her head proportions are mega off. Was this intentional?
>>6408570
yes, almost everybody starts with rough sketch (gesture), there they ensure proportions and composition make sense and then they start refining it
>>6408332
tracing is the best way how to never improve at drawing
>>6408328
>how many sketches
one? you simply keep adjusting that one sketch until you are happy?
>immediately hate it
PYW. Also its easy to hate your own pieces because taste in art levels automatically every day when you look at various art of others but your actual skill needs serious grind

slacking

Had a bit of a break and wanted to get something painted, feel like I need to darken this up some more but my laziness has gotten to me and I'm not going to. I think I should have mixed a darker colour instead of relying on the black pen, laziness again.

>>6407046
Cute, need some more contrast and texture inside the chameleon itself, also he looks like his back foot is amputated.

>>6407093
Very nice, I think you can be a bit bolder and go darker with some of the shading like in the beard etc, push the contrast. Some of your lines look a little shaky unconfident (honestly I kind of like it but it is noticeable to me.) Looking forward to seeing some watercolor work.

>>6407421
Pawell I kneel. I feel like you should do a bunch of face practice at some point, figure/gesture is coming on great though.

>>6407836
Good start, some nice shading. I'd say try and "draw what you see", (assuming your using some reference) some of the shapes you've got going on aren't realistic like the ears or the way the neck abruptly goes into the shoulders. Also pick and choose where you want to get detailed, I dont like how you opted to put a bunch of lines in the lips.

>>6408911
Just seen this, very nice! Yep you try to keep in mind what you want to leave white as you go. Some people even use masking fluid to preserve it. You could also go back in with some white gouache or a pen etc.

>>6409130
Close up studies look great my man!

>>6408814
>>6408830
looks good. thanks so much

is there a big list of different styles, jobs and aesthetics somewhere? like, knight, rogue, wizard, samurai, egyptian, pirate, viking, goth, mafia, rapper, baker, salaryman, popstar, metalhead, greaser, etc etc?

I'm trying to design a bunch of varied characters for a thing and it would be nice to look through a list like this to see what would fit the characters and then go look for reference for that instead of aimlessly searching like I'm doing right now

>>6409226
look into japanese rpgs / mmos. lots of varied class aesthetics that fit a lot of those descriptions even the weird ones.

ragnarok online, final fantasy (xiv and the mainline games), maplestory (not japanese but) come to mind

Just picked up a basic canvas and acrylics from walmart, Used a pencil to carefully sketch what I wanted to aim for before just fucking going for it.

No schooling, only painted on Canvas 1 other time as a date thing years ago (i think with watercolor?)

Im actually kind of happy with how it came out, I tried to "curl" my strokes on the blue sky layer into a 0 shape when I got to the center so looking at it felt nicer.

Wish the strokes on the ground were more consistent, wish the yellow of the eye and the purple of its corona werent so miscolored (I assume its because I did a full layer for the sky and foreground first, any ideas to help with that in the future maybe?)

Compliments, critique, whatever you guys got I am open for it.

Aemond Targaryen

Can anyone tell me why the pic keeps getting flipped. Im on mobile if it helps.

theres no friends, family, nationality, continent or even fucking western hemisphere that i know of that draws the same level of dedication that these fucking people are doing in asia.. i just want somebody to tell me that im gmi if i keep on the consistency for god sake somebody help me i know what to learn but i feel like a retard who needs to learn another language to be able to draw the things he wants to draw

>>6409271
neet for one year and the year goes by so fucking fast, if i wont make it in 2029 i will hopefully, if i have the will, go to china and attempt a revolution with pure selflessness to atleast find something else before ending it

who asked

>>6407058
I can proceed to outlining now, right?

>>6409038
Thanks Anon, I appreciate it.

>>6409130
Thanks man, you know I read something a while ago about laser printers being go to option to work on 'back up' of your pieces because there's no issue with the ink running or bleeds. I haven't finished the actual art but I'll definitely scan it and keep that back up just in case. Not doing much for xmass other than working on this and my day job desu.

>>6409158
Thanks Anon, I do have shaky lines sometimes, happens mostly when I'm trying to loosen up my linework and it just ends up shaky like that.
I think this is the last practice I'll go with.
I dont have any masking fluid at the moment but I found out you can use candle wax(although is not very precise or good for sharp lines) so I went with a lil masking tape cut to shape and it does work great at giving that 'radiating light' effect. You just have to be extra careful when you remove it or else it'll rip the paper.
I'll use it more often from now on.

Still theres plenty of room for improvement but I have to take the leap and work on the actual piece at some point. Thank you all for the tips and hopefully I'll see you on the next thread.

>>6409130
>Always draw from reference
>Never trace
Are you listening to yourself?

>>6409197
gj anon. /ic/ needs more mechachads

>>6409130
Good perspective on feet.

>>6409197
Saw your progress from sketch to this. Good job anon

>>6409327
Her left hand looks uncomfortable. Bending only ring finger is not a common casual pose I believe.

>>6408038
Bruh drawing anatomy like this is fun af, what u on

>>6409265
You answered your own question. Crop it to stop it.

>>6408687
Thing is some people trace and it still turns out bad, at least your values and overall shapes work well here

>>6409265
Good face proportion. Work on anatomy and body proportion and you’ll be fine. And don’t draw on line paper anon.

>>6409262
I applaud you for actually trying to finish something and not just grinding Loomis heads. The yellow dividing lines don't have perspective. They get smaller, which is good, but the ends should get narrower. See picrel. There's also usually a white line on either side of a highway, for the shoulder. Make a list and sit down and correct everything. Think of it as a process, like editing an essay paper.

I honestly think you should repaint this like 10, 20, maybe even 50 times, trying different colors and using references to get more realistic shapes for things in the environment. You'll also want to look at references for environment lighting. And I'd consider working on a gradient for the sky, perhaps? Look at different sunsets on an image search engine.

>>6409130
>You cut their feet off. Draw the FEET.
Aieeeee, my canvas ended up not being big enough so I didn't include it..
I'll fix her tomorrow though, thank you. I knew something looked really wrong with her but I didn't know what.
The guy looked fine to me outside of the bottom pant leg but I knew I could fix that..

Progress on my Jin Ron painting

>>6409408
cool darth vader

>>6409408
Yes!
I don't remember them having anything golden or bronze or anything though so those should be blue if you're going for an exact copy.
If it's just you having fun it does give a bigger color pallet

>>6408502
marc brunet gives his brushes for free on his yt vids

>>6409446
It's reflect light from gun fire/burning on the left. It wiill come to show when the piece is worked on more

>>6407042
critique?

>>6409485
good effort, anon. Difficult pose. Keep practicing, and focus on plane changes and defining your forms through those plane breaks. Break things down into blocks as much as you can

What do I need to be able to draw a nicer background? I can never seem to roughly or neatly draw a foliage/leaves/grass or anything like that. It usually ends in this horrible scribble and ruins the entire work.
Anyone have any tips? Im still pretty /beg/ so I want to get as much logical practice I can get. I hate seeing my scribbles cause I know its frustration of not know what to do

You can see with the tree behind I just plonked it in and also drew the outline of some bushes

>>6409262
It’s very cute! Would def hang that one up.
Def get into a lil bit of basic perspective as the yellow paint in the middle should be on an angle facing towards the viewer. Easy fix and keep it up

Random doodles, trying to get back into art after a 3 year hiatus..

https://youtu.be/ehQKAnVlJAA?list=PLMXbAPr21di_-1K8CMTAdIUZ-qhxwZwgS

Yall niggers need to look at references and make the darker shades BLACK and not "slightly deeper gray"

Still need more practice on ellipses before I move on.

Tried out ink painting. Lot of fun, but accidentally picked up some partially dried pigment, and ruined it.

>>6409734

>>6409736
You go black then blend to gray.

Sketches and practice

some super messy, skribbly gestures

i never even drew anything with clothing, so this was a first time for me

How do you do those rapid fire gesture drawings? Do you just begin with the head? the arms? I mean the actual construction lines

>>6409892
I draw a stickman

Finished at last. This took me an eternity. If only I had the actual model kit this would be much easier and still there is some yankiness.

My first anatomical drawing. I fucked up hard.

how do i pull off the rocket top left? i can't seem to get it in perspective because it's foreshortened.

>>6407042
how is it called that thing where before the drawing you do small sketches of it in like a square=?

>>6409747
>drawbow
you are doing the 50% 50% rule right?

Wanted to practice basic shapes with this one. Hope all this practice will pay off.

>>6409946
Reference

>>6409943
Yeah, though I have been painting more than sketching for fun.

>>6409942
Storyboarding?

>>6409942
thumbnail sketch

I realized how fucked up she was after flipping the image :(

Working on a drawing of alex from street fighter. I think my anatomy looks okay so far but I'm unsure of what to do with the right hand or how to angle it

decided to quickly draw something mindblowing

>>6409949
>>6409946
Hey, as fellow copier

Try to imitate the qualities of the original artstyle

like thick lines an d slight in case of your picture. They change a lot and you get better perceiving things as 3D rather than copying flat things. That helped me a lot desu.

but I'm a /beg/ someone might want to correct me.

painted my friends mmo character because he's epic

>>6410116
epic

>>6407539
Royce, the thin lines are a big improvement. Looks really good. Your coloring of the purple dress you did on tg came out really good.

>>6407042
>>6407042
looks through art from year ago.
>damn this looks like ass
looks at current
> still looks like ass but less
such a small thing but it truly motivates me from the bottom of my heart

>>6410134
Ah thanks! I tried this out for a commission for someone on a server, and he was superbly satisfied. I am really thankful for the anon who gave me the advice. also the small change in line color was also a major step in the right direction.

Human artist anon, or whatever name you go by on /tg/, if you are reading this, Words cannot describe how much I am greatful for your advice!

alright, two things
1) copying from a reference is harder than i thought and so is constructing the body in a way i'm not used to. there's so much more musculature and boney parts than what i'm used to, but i'll get better

and more importantly
2) i tried drawing while zoomed out and all of my lines come out as really wobbly even with stabilization on, what the fuck? i can't apply proper line weight because i feel like i have no control and have to zoom in to make it look even remotely okay. is this really a dexterity issue or am i doing something wrong?
>>6409457
they're not for krita though :x
>>6409907
looks incredible nonetheless, it's always nice seeing /m/ fans here

Haven't really tried "painting" something like this before.
I think I'm gonna focus on gesture/anatomy/faces the rest of the year.

today I will draw

Drawing realistic faces are hard is that why no one ever posts realistic faces here?

>>6410275
Pretty much and some of them need technical way to do those things like grids and such.

>>6410160
Haha yes, its me that wrote >>6410134. I'm glad I was able to help you make a breakthrough.

The pen i use is "nong pen"

There's "nong pen 2" which i like for coloring

Both are free on the csp shop

>>6410223
post that drawing king

My sole reason to get good is to make people upset someone drawing pony shit can draw good

>>6410319
You are the best! And if it is alright, can i color one of your fills from /tg/ just for the sake of practice? specificly the one with the woman walking out of a fursuit store?

>>6410350
this but my fetish instead

>>6410333
Fucking SOVLFVL

Am I not spending enough time on drawing in general? What I mean by this, is that whenever I decide to put my pencil to paper, whether that be drawing from reference, doodling, or studying, I will almost always, at most, spend 30 minutes on drawing before I decide to move onto the next study. If I study from a reference, I’ll maybe spend 25 minutes looking at the object before I start drawing for about 5 minutes, if I’m drawing for myself, I’ll often only draw for a period of 30 minutes.

Am I spending too little time spent on drawing to etch any of the fundamentals down into my brain?

>>6410439
>spend 25 minutes looking at the object
?????

>spend the day practicing construction for anatomy
>go to draw a naked figure to review what i learned
>realize that i've spent so much time drawing egg torsos and rectangular pelvises that i don't know how to draw tits
sasuga

>>6410439
practice is more important than theory

It’s gonna take a few sessions to finish but I’ll keep updating while I do so that someone might find it useful.

>>6410052
Thanks for the advice.

>>6409907
This is pretty good, but are you really a beginner? Feels like you should be posting on the threads for experts/masters.

>>6409929
Ugly art.

>>6409939
Looks awesome.

>>6410028
NGMI

>>6410034
I really like your stylization, I think it looks great!

>>6410504
kill yourself faggot

>>6410506
If you can't take the heat, then get the fuck out of the kitchen, and don't come back until you can post something worth a damn.

>>6410508
pyw

>>6410378
Go for it, feel free to color or line or trace anything that I put up. All my drawings are for free/fun. My career lies outside the arts.

Wolf downing a bottle of wine (literally me)

Wrong image, but whatever, I'll leave the two of them up

>>6410504
>This is pretty good, but are you really a beginner? Feels like you should be posting on the threads for experts/masters.
This is the first time my art is so well received here, maybe it was just a fluke. I just have three months of digital drawing experience so by "pencil mileage" I'm pretty much a /beg/.

Can a kind soul explain the purpose of painting with blending modes as opposed to just painting naturally? I don't really understand why to use multiply, for example.

I've done worse, but I always feel like I'm missing a few obvious things that can turn a drawing from barely acceptable, to actually decent. In this case, I'd imagine my posing is too stiff, and I have no real line weight to speak of. I'm not sure of the best way to practice the latter. The former I could probably get better at simply by doing a lot more gesture drawing. I've also heard people say my stuff doesn't have much 3D to it, which might be symptoms of my problem with the other two things.

Not really a fan of my coloring, but that's a slow process no matter what, I think.

>>6410554
I never use multiply I just paint on top of what I already built

>>6410554
If you use multiply you can experiment with different colours easier by simply changing the flats

>>6410557
same, I just watch tutorials and the instructor will sometimes say "set the shadow layer to multiply" and they never explain why.

>>6410558
I guess that makes sense, thank you.

>>6410562
I don't watch tutorials either, here is a piece I did 1 year ago. I believe some people give too much emphasis on tools, I almost exclusively use the flat and hard round brush. People would worry about literally anything but actually practicing

Ruined the inking by trying to black out an area with sharpie, so I just played around with a white pencil before calling it quits

>>6409782
Looks nice

>be reading up on esotericism and occult stuff
>decide to do a mashup over everything that has my zodiac and such in it
this is the best sketch i could come up with. i feel like its to cluttered of the comp is off. maybe i should orient it vertically and and the moon above the characters?

>>6410504
>Ugly art.
I'll remake it and try doing better.

looking for advice
im going to paint attached in watercolors, but i want to paint the portraits from various angles as though it was illuminated by candlelight (warm tones). i understand the theory behind it, but im having a hard time getting the process figured out in my head. googling things like "candlelight portraits watercolor" only really shows either:
1. watercolor paintings of candles or
2. candlelight portraits in oils
so im having a hard time with this process, and would really appreciate any insight. thank you

>>6410586
heres a reference i was using. i wanted to go for a more dramatic upward view but i dont think it worked very well.

>>6410588
Don't know if this helps, but work from lightest to darkest values when using watercolor (the opposite of oil and acrylic). Also, I find it easier to turn what I'm painting upside down when things are lit from below so the light source is above the subject when picking the areas where the subject is illuminated. For some reason I have a better time thinking of the light falling over the form from above rather than shining up. Not sure why that is, but it works for me. Pic is ink wash, but it works very similar to watercolor

Thoughts?

>>6410556
please help. I feel like every time I almost feel satisfied, it’s just doesn’t feel right. All of the stuff I listed might be factors, but I don’t know if one is a big X factor or not. I know either way the solution is just to draw more, but it just grates me.

>>6410628
you're quite good. I'd re-evaluate the spaghetti hair though

>>6410607
gigachad

>>6410632
it's kinda hard to tell where you shaded other than the forehead because you used a very similar color to the base skintone

>>6410556
>>6410632
>posing is too stiff
>line weight
>I've also heard people say my stuff doesn't have much 3D to it, which might be symptoms of my problem with the other two things.

The lack of 3d is not really part of the other two things and I think it's worth for you to study it before the other two. Try drawing some simple 3d volumes in perspective when you warm up, like boxes and cylinders.
Another thing that might help is figure drawing (different from gesture). Even if you are working stylized you can pick up things that will help sell the 3d. Like in this picture, how should the right shoulder look from this perspective? Where should the centerline of the torso be drawn?
Should the tube top's bottom edge be curving up or down, from this perspective? Should the skirt's top edge be curving up or down?

I think the other big thing you are missing is anatomical/subject knowledge of the human figure and clothes. But these are things that take a long time to build an understanding of, honestly it's not bad to just look up references esp. for clothing and just try to replicate them into your drawing.

There's also common constructions for things like anime heads and hair that you might want to look up; personally I'd just try to approach one thing at a time.

>>6410638
In retrospect, that seems obvious, but it was difficult to point out for myself.
>>6410639
I greatly appreciate this advice. I need to make better use of referencing in my pieces. I obviously references another drawing to get some of the wider details right, but I end up taking shortcuts in terms of clothes, when arguably the details there, even simplified, can make something look okay, to good. I’ve been trying to use 3D models to get a better sense of how things look in a 3D sense, but I guess those have their limitations, because I’m the one making the pose. Even if it’s technically possible, it might not be ‘right’. You both have given me some stuff to consider. I just need to start trying to implement it instead of shuffling my feet.

>>6410531
>>6410532
i wanna FUCK him

>>6410556
>>6410632
the other 2 anons gave you great advice. i would recommend doing more figure drawings in the 7-10 minute range focusing on basic construction and proportions, stuff that you'd find in Micheal Hampton's book. Your coloring is 100% fine btw.

for specific pointers, I'd make sure that for every head you draw, make the eyes halfway from the top of the head to the chin, or even lower than that. Make sure all the lines that run across your forms (like the clothes that wrap around the body) run across the body like an ellipse

>>6410661
I'm glad you think that, Anon, more than you can know. Many thanks!

That's what I made with air dry clay. I said I was going to post here when I make it. It's a head, from a creature pokemon or digimon-like. It has leaf/petals "hair'. I don't know when I'm gonna do the rest of the body.

>>6410586
cool idea. i like it

>>6407042
Time to grind Michael Hampton

Hello
I wish to be able to miniature watercoloured drawings of things like
>scenery
>buildings
>objects
>rocks
>pools
>birds
I want them to be stylised in terms of things like shadows, how I depict textures, etc but otherwise I want to be realistic
How do I learn to do this? I drew a lot as a kid but stopped because I have no talent

I want to learn other fundies but I suck at line confidence so I just keep on grinding lines, circles, ovals, and curves

>>6410742
Line confidence is a state of mind, my suggestion is literally to get a cold shower and psyche yourself up till you feel so amped up you want to fuck the isoterics worlds pussy

Psychological issues can only be solved through action, movement, energy, not thinking. Remember that.

>tfw been thinking about learning to draw for years
>tfw occasionally do the first few pages of loomis or drawabox or a terrible mspaint doodle then quit
>tfw considering trying again

>>6410798
Do it

>>6410618
Thank you. That’s a good idea as well, though I do have some comfortability with the idea of light projection onto surfaces.
I think where I’m struggling now is understanding how colored light affects the natural color of the subject, exactly like how in your pic it starts bright orange then changes to green in the shaded areas.
It’s a real mind fuck, like how do you do that in such a way that an orange light shines onto a blue shirt and graduating the colors so it doesn’t just turn brown?

>>6410628
the mouth and chin are disproportional to the eyes and nose, otherwise ok

>>6410798
do it and fail miserably again
then do it again and improve a little
fail again, and improve a little
repeat as long as you live, the biggest failure would be to give up after not being perfect after doing 10 attempts

>>6410563

rendering is hard

>>6410742
Start out by making the strokes very fast. Don't worry if you overshoot or skip, just go fast enough that you cannot hesitate or correct midway. Then start slowing it down once you're used to making a confident mark.

>>6410734
Can you give an example of the sort of work you want to create?

Better than yesterday, still not there yet though. Been drawing the planes without rotating the page a ton.

>Have day where my gainz are fucking intense
>Literally x2 my art skills every brush stroke
>Looks amazing, super proud of myself
>Go to sleep
>Spend the next week failing to capture that same magic and just make shitty pieces while constantly wondering what went so right initially
Please tell me this happens to other artists, dear God, please. I feel so goddamn retarded and upset.

>>6410932
When ai improves it’s permanent.

>>6407042
anyone got good tutorials/resources to learn photobashing? not sure where else to ask.

>>6410966
Man, every time I see shit like this on beg it's depressing because how good do you have to not be beg?

>>6410988
about as good as fkey anon

>>6410504
>Ugly art.
Is this one better?

is the Vilppu Drawing Manual really worth it?

>>6410798
if loomis/drawabox are keeping you from drawing for some reason then honestly just dont bother with them for now
try drawing random objects in real life or studying good artists

>>6410988
>because how good do you have to not be beg

that particular piece has enough mistakes in it to be /beg/ but read the title, it's /beg/&/int/ now.

by the time you're /int/, it'll be /beg/&/int/&/pro/, and if you somehow ever get to the point where you can make a living with it it'll be /beg/&/int/&/pro/&/patreon top 100/&/Shonen Jump's best sellers/&/possessed by KJG's ghost/.

your right to post in /draw/ is drifting away every day, you must grind faster that it does

>>6411011
Read it and see for yourself, bro. I, myself, like it.

Is 21 years old too late to learn how to draw? There is just so much stuff to go through, I feel like I'd only reach intermediate on my 30's

how does my sketch look so far? I tried to redline it so its not as hard to see since i know my lines can be a little chicken scratchy when i paint

also shes supposed to be anorexic tier so i made the hips a bit wide, i based her slightly off of Denise from Skinny Fans.
Character is Havnis from Yugioh though

>>6411054
it’s never a question about age. what you need to ask yourself is if you have time and are healthy enough to hold a pencil.

>>6411054
fuck no are you kidding me

PRACTICE AHHHHHHHHH FUCK.

How long do i have to do this until I fucking become int??

>>6411041
I'm not really active in anything other than beg. I doubt I'll ever be int, as drawing has always been something I hyperfocus on for like 2 consecutive weeks a year.

>>6411094
2nd page

>>6411096
forgot pic

>>6411054
i started with 25 in these very threads. 31 now, learned to code too. released my first game last year. never had a traditional job tho.

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>>6411094
Idk but sovl as fuck
try applying it to an actual drawing isntead of just studying

>>6411041
anyone above int has no reason to post here

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>>6411117
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>>6411123
Thanks.

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I should probably use the spheres/boxes even when I'm drawing from a photo, right? The whole thing is a mess but I think the most egregious thing is that I failed to put the eyes in perspective which messed up the whole pose.
I'm a complete beginner btw, please be gentle.

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>>6407136
Cat meidos are very cute and I like your art

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>>6407058
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