/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6403728
I do scenery/backgrounds by blocking it in and then blurring the shit out of it

>>6403728
I draw characters fucking other characters without knowing fuck all about them and don't give a shit about what weebs believe whether it's canonically correct or not.

i never read loomis past the first few pages

i keep avoiding gloss and material breakup in my concepts

>>6403728
I traced a background because it was too complex for my little beg brain. Please forgive me father.

I tell people I do art to make character designs for a video game but my main motivation is actually selling low quality niche fetish art for high prices.

I don't draw.

i have never studied anything. its too boring. i just draw

I use AI, do minor edits and pass on the work as my own.


...and I like it.

>>6403728
I gatekept all my best information again, I just don't believe /ic/ deserves it.

drawing makes me wanna kms
>>6403813
also not knowing his secrets

I'm am AI

>>6403820
Does AI dream?

>>6403828
of Pixelated Sheep?

>>6403829
wrong image. But yes also just proud I managed to get legible text with AI

I keep making shit up and spreading rumors about artists from /ic/ Discords in other /ic/ Discords so a bunch of people think badly of eachother

I've never had sex

>>6403728
>I offer my drawings as an act of courtesy to my friends but rarely/never deliver.
>I don't work with deadlines.
My art is cheap, so the customers never complain.

>>6404057
based

>>6403728
I'm trying to get good so I can back myself up when I shit on others.

>>6403728
Having no money is the only sin I have. Being a poor artist is the sin of Sloth by modern Christian standard.

I self insert onto all of my drawings and all the original characters I draw
I frequently draw my characters interacting with and living with the original characters of other people I know
For years now I've been using drawings as a surrogate for social and sexual interactions and people keep going "wow nice art, thanks for drawing our characters together" and I play along but to me it's not a character, it's me. It's either who i am or who I will become
I can't or won't stop because it'd feel like I'd stop living if I did, but I still feel like it's an unhealthy relationship between me, my art, and the people I wind up involving

I use a ruler over my tablet to draw straight lines

>>6404113
have you tried stopping for like a month

>>6403728
I don't draw

i have become obsessed with hoarding art learning materials for months especially since all of the recent mega take downs

>>6404113
I also live through my characters anon, albeit they aren’t self-inserts. More like I’m using their world as an escape from my mundane existence. In a lot of ways, it’s the only time I feel I’m alive is when I’m actively drawing and writing my worlds into existence. My characters become my friends, people that are just living their lives like me. By creating comics, I’m spending time with these friends, getting to know them, and it fills me with joy I can’t get anywhere else because I have no real friends.

I think we as artists use the creative outlet we have to cope with the lack in our lives. Deficits we have, experiences not lived. We cope by creating situations where we can live through characters that might have those experiences that we can’t. It’s not much different from the reason people watch movies or listen to music. It’s an escape to a world where we can fill that void for a mere moment in time, to maybe stave off the pain just a little bit.

I don’t know about anyone else but creating shit has been therapeutic more than anything else. Life is hard and people get left behind. I think expression frees you from the shackles of being left behind, maybe not all the way but a little bit. It at least gives you enough room to breathe. A way to offload some of the pain.idk

>>6403728
I genuinely believe I'm better than all of you.

>>6403728
I keep falling for my art friends and it's fucking with my head.

I used to be more resilient in keeping my feelings in check around women, especially when it comes to art communities, but lately it's been going out of control. First started dating a fellow artist and that turned out for the worse. Recently became very close to a friend only to find out they're already dating someone for 2 years (even asked me for marriage advice for crying out loud). And now I've befriended someone new and slowly I'm falling for her too.

I don't know if that first one I mentioned screwed up my brain chemicals but it's been like this ever since and it sucks because I just want to draw and make friends, not fall in love every step of the way...

>>6403728
I just like the act of drawing and painting. I have to make shit up in terms of story/message and pretend to be an artist to sell shit. They buy paintings from me thinking I am some sort of deep person, but I am just a retard who enjoys painting. I am not an artist.

>>6404180
>but I am just a retard who enjoys painting.
Some artists are really just like that. So you are one.

>>6403728
I've spent 6 months on my latest drawing
It's still not finished

>>6404169
pyw

Ive wanted to upload deliveries i make in draw threads to my own blog but for some reason i feel guilty about it, even thought i created the image. It feels like its not mine to share anymore because i drew it for anon. Am i alone in this? It eats me up at night. Am i just being a basedfaggot

>>6403728
I stopped drawing for 3 years cause I lost hope

>>6403728
I draw r34 of everything that doesn't have r34. I have been in hot water with some youtuber fanbases because "they're real people, why would draw porn of them?" BECAUSE I CAN, NIGGA

>>6404193
why?

>>6404227
its alright i changed my mind i don't want to see the flat top space marine again

>spent years of my life NEETING and learning art in the hopes of being able to make a living doing what i love
>realized too late that it would be very hard to monetize my ideas, now impossible with AIs
>realized that artistic ambition means nothing if you don't have the resources to pursue it
>i now work a dead end, mundane blue collar job
>just reading and watching a lot of shit on my free time to build a visual library

>>6404239
>>just reading and watching a lot of shit on my free time to build a visual library
Not how you build one

>>6404239
this has to be bait
you're doing exactly what the AIjeets want
artistic ambition is everything, if you didnt get your hands cut off, how don't you have the resources to keep making art?

I follow artist who's work an attitude I despise but I don't interact with them. I just feed off my contempt and disgust then put into my own work. It's like they're creating the thing a want satirize and subvert.

You know that one character you fucking hate whenever they're on screen? The sheer satisfaction you get whenever misfortune befalls them is what I'm talking about.

>>6404248
with resources i mean money. im a poorfag nearing homelesness and wasn't making any money with art. i think it's better like this, though, one day i will be able to do all the things i want to with the support of a well paying full time job.
>>6404246
i know. but it's better than nothing and for now it's what available for me.
how would you build a visual library?

I've drawn maybe 45 sheets in three years, I have chronic procrastination and I'm a disappointment to my parents and myself

>>6403802
The single greatest sin in this thread. There are children in Africa who could have eaten your art materials and here you are not using them.

>>6404305
You just have to pavlov condition yourself into drawing. Do 10 minutes of it everyday in the same hour every day and if you don't draw in a day you have to scratch your arm really hard.

>>6404146
Seriously how do I hide threads in 4chan?

>>6404169
I honestly think I am better than you anon whoever you are.

I haven't draw in over a year

>>6403728
I don't practice half the advice I give. It's good advice (I think) but I don't have the discipline to follow it, I just want to draw what I want

>>6404261
>look at thing
>draw thing
>stop looking at thing
>draw thing
>compare and note differences

>>6403728
I can’t draw my characters without a facial reference. I’ve defaulted to basing my OC’s faces off obscure actors and politicians so people don’t realize who the reference is. They’re famous enough that there exists photo sets of their face from different angles; not famous enough that you would recognize them.

>>6403728
I trace figures and then warp the lines to make the forms more coomer

>>6404408
That's great I should do that too.

>>6403809
People can tell.

I draw nothing but anime bitches in my comfort zone, use drawthreads on 4chan as a crutch for socializing etc

i care too much what other people think about me, and my work. It paralyzes me. ( ._.)c|

>>6403728
I, unironically, like drawing...

>>6404496
Xirs, you have some leftover cowshit, finish your meal xirs

>>6403728
My dick is too big

>>6404308
Pretty much this
Nowadays coming home from work right after dinner I'd be putting on my glove. Sometimes I'd do it out of habit eventhough I wasnt planning on drawing anything.

>>6403728
i been drawing for more than a year yet i still draw like shit.

>>6403728
I run a popular blog about celebrities, I take out my sexual frustrations and draw tons of porn of the men I blogpost about in secret. I also secretly envy or hate everyone and everything I do for one reason or another. None of my followers are any the wiser.

>>6404381
that is a good point, i actually do sketch a lot. but i want to write stories and create concepts, so i figures watching and reading a lot could help later.

>>6404188
You just made me feel better about my 3-almost-4 week old project, though I haven't opened it in a week but I just opened it now. WGMI anon.

>>6403728
I'm hoarding porn
My cope is that i want to use them as refs
But i rarely draw

>>6406414
I drew some foot fetish stuff, I liked the likes it got
but now I have gigs of dudes and girls feet images videos, fuck I'm sick.

I keep hoarding thinking I can do something with it. I even found a dude who built himself a foot temple.

>>6406443
Post pics of foot temple, sounds funny

>>6403728

I use AI

>>6404057
same, i think it makes us better artists that way

The intrusive thoughts won and I drew nudes of a random woman I saw at a grocery store.

I only draw so that I dont have to be face to face with people in a normal job.

>>6406507
I'm planning on doing the same thing, Anon. The art world hasn't realized it needs to adapt or die.

I trace hands.
They're way too hard to draw and I don't have time to spend 2-3 hours each hand every time I need to draw them

>>6404312
install 4chanx and shift+click

1. I swim in a lot of spaces with LGBTCCX*++ people because of art, but the reality is I hate interacting with sjws and political extremists. And whenever I get near these groups, I know I'm in for some bullshit so I just tend to avoid or tune them out or outright block their profiles. Which is a shame since we share a lot of interests in art and porn.

This is especially harrowing since so many professionals also align themselves with this bullshit. How do other industry pros avoid being dragged into their histrionics in personal and public life? Seriously.

2. I love commercial art and pop culture, but due to all the abuse of workers in those industries, I'm giving serious thought to switching to the Fine Arts game. Just seeing individual paintings go for 5k to 25k on average in a salon was really eye-opening for me.
I love comics and cartoons but fuck working in those companies.

3. I used Stable Diffusion nearly 200 times to see what the fuss was all about, but I got a mere 10 images out of that effort that were barely worth looking at. And that was with 19th century and Golden Age illustration gigachads as training models. AI was a mistake.

>>6406834
Acceptable. Hands are such nightmare than even the AI with billions of images in its database can't do it right.

>>6406866
>I swim in a lot of spaces with LGBTCCX*++ people because of art, but the reality is I hate interacting with sjws and political extremists.
Same, faggots are so damn disgusting, whenever you engage in a conversation with an lgbtq man just know he most likely swallows cock or take it up his asshole. Disgusting! These people are so dirty. Then they have the audacity to color themselves as politically correct social justice warriors.

>>6404482
>People can
sureeeee.... Once you put it through an upscaler + edit out any artifacts shit becomes very hard to identify without AI watermarks (if they are enabled).

>>6403728
Everytime someone commissions me I draw their characters getting railed as practice, but never show them

>>6406903
it usually pretty obvious if you have any knowledge of brushwork or composition. Non-artists and begs might be easily fooled, I suppose.

>>6406911
I have yet to find a person on /ic/ that can reliably deduce AI art even from trad art.

>>6403728
I'm considering starting an etsy/redbubble shop themed around tiktok gender bullshit.

I bought a 2 pack sketchbook from 2 years ago and I am not even done filling the first sketchbook yet.

I take random screenshots of girls on tiktok and put them into an anime AI art generator and use them as art references

>>6403728
I have stolen some of your OCs and made porn of them, just to fap, and no I'm not interested in posting them in any platform, it's just degeneracy.

>>6406514
So did Davinci.

I've been drawing for 10 years, never taken any sort of arts class because I convinced myself it would be a waste of money and took graphic design instead, but now i hate graphic design and despite those 10 years, trying to color/render shit makes me feel like a brainless super retard toddler. I also have more than a dozen sketchbooks with each only having less than ten pages filled at most.

I trace other artist's coom pics and modify the girls to my own liking.

>>6407164
Kim Jung Gi drew a whole comic.

>>6407415
the one with the drunk woman? that was hot

>>6407143
scat?

>>6404308
>you have to scratch your arm really hard.
dude... you have problems

>>6403728
I unironically started drawing because I want to depict a gacha character standing in my kitchen and preparing a meal.
It is a nice way to spend time, even though I am the /beggest/ of /begs/ now.

>>6407560
soul
I believe in you, my fellow waifufag

i am trying to master lewd art but i jerk off to my own attempts and then lose interest in it immediately after...

>>6403728
I mainly draw fat milfs on the public accounts, but my private sketchbooks are loaded with cunny.
I genuinely like drawing both though, so I don't consider my public account "fake" or a "mask." But I'll admit I prefer drawing plump little girls, and sort of wish I could be more public about it without it impacting my income or it being so stigmatized.

>>6407623
>sort of wish I could be more public about it without it impacting my income

How would that even happen? I mean sure if you post on patreon then I see what you mean but there is fanbox/pixiv/private commissions. You can also just test the waters by posting some near NSFW cunny and gauge the reaction to it.

I've spent more money on both traditional and digital mediums than I could likely ever make back in a lifetime from art alone. I'd have to have huge commercial success to get ahead. And yet I still keep spending.

I paint over AI backgrounds for my coommissions.

Anytime I attempt to begin to practice drawing, I instantly get demoralized by any dumb things I do.
I guess I'm too much of a fucking retard to actually put pencil to dollar store sketchpad and be happy with the shitty result

>>6403728
I literally never finish anything ever if it takes me more than 2 hours.

I've never drawn a nose. Every "nose" I've ever drawn has been symbol drawn.

using ai assistance is fine especially for a 'product'

>>6404057
me neither

>>6404113
R***? Is that you?

i ghost people that ask me too much about my art

>>6408541
Good morning sir

i chose to be a drawing asshole in all my relationships over them, every time.

but i still care about them and feel ronery and draw caricatures (not their real names btw), and at some level, and still in love with pretty much all of them.

I love art, i love being in relationships but I can never seem to make the two work together.

Are water cooler threads banned now? I could have sworn there was one yesterday. For what purpose?

Loli reference outnumber my old people reference. And my main work is drawing old grizzled muhrines

>>6403728
Never studied shit.

>>6403728
Someone in the oc thread drew my character and really wanted to draw them something back but I got cold feet because I really didn't want to give back something worse than what I got and so I dropped off the face of the earth.

>>6403728
I sell AI art.

I draw for fun :)

>>6410287
you can have reference of those?

>>6410440
whaddup, skin.

>>6403728
All of my shitposts about AI art get a hundred, sometimes multiple hundreds of likes and even a few retweets, meanwhile my artwork gets 5 likes max.
In all the time I’ve been doomscrolling on Twitter I could probably have finished 2 or 3 good drawings or maybe an animation, but my storytelling is my weakest link and I don’t know what to do about it. All of my ideas are like movies and shit, I’m not good at capturing a story in a single still frame or a single animation sequence.

>>6403728
I have a $15/hr art job and can barely muster the will to work for 15hrs a week. I’ve been living mostly off of inheritance money and the project/team doesn’t have a hard deadline, so I get to be lazy.
I have delusions of one day making $100k/year as an animator, having a family and a decent property, when 1) I have the worst work ethic possible, 2) even if I worked 40hrs/week every week for the next year I’m still only making $30k-ish, and 3) outside of work I never draw.

>>6403728
My hear is filled with schadenfreude with the release of ChatGPT. It's not just me who's gonna lose a job, techbros are also gonna get it. Serves them right.

I continue to train till 3AM in the moonlight with no shirt on, slashing my wacom pen under the crystal geysers of Florida's fresh water reserves so that I will, on an unannounced day in the distant mirai, lay waste to all men who dared cast me aside for new art friends. I will burn all their remains so that not even ashes is present. On that anohi, this pitiful board will know what artking they serve.

My confession? Every tongue on /ic/ will confess to me, for my confession is not of my own. Now, I must head back to the waterfall to acquire solace with the alligators.

>>6403728
I'm open to the possibilities and potential of AI art as a whole. But I work in game dev industry, so it hardly matters nor do I have the time to even worry about it.

>>6410835
Was that fun?
>>6410569
Yoooo! Howdy hombre, it's rare to see another of our kind round here pardner. Best keep yer wheel gun slick and yer chaw chewed, never know when crabhands Mcgee and the postwork boys are gonna show fer a tussle. Reckon they kin whiff a fun a quarter mile out from under a buzzards backside. Yeehaw!

>>6403728
I am jealous of someone I know irl who just draws genshit with a simple lineart, fill and multiply shadow with blurred background and get hundred of likes on social media while I try my hardest to draw non-genshit art and I get like 10 likes at best.

That colleague is always says things like "wow I luv your art I hope to be able to draw like you" etc to me but I can't even tell whether this is a jab at me or it is genuine praise.

When I tell them, "oh my god love your drawings!", I'm lying.

>>6411896
you sound young. I hope you let that jealousy turn into motivation by practicing so you won't become one of the toxic lazy artists out there. that colleague of yours might genuinely like your art. so focus on the most important part: improving your skills because that is something you'll be doing even after you become good at it. social media metrics are something out of your control even if there are ways to help you improve those numbers, but ultimately, those numbers doesn't really help you get good at drawing. and if you have continuous growth and keeps on posting on your social media, your reach will naturally improve over time anyway.

Lastly, I know it's easy to get carried away in an anonymous board sometimes, but try to keep being humble, anon. this mindset might not sound related on improving your skills, but trust me, it could help you meet and keep friends that could potentially turn into connections that will help you out on your art journey.

>>6411896
>girls be like
Kek. Sounds like skill issue

>>6411995
Thanks for the advice anon-kun. In public media I keep my opinions to myself because I know they might sound incendiery and of course I will be labelled as the little whining/arrogant bitch in everyone's eyes.

Thanks for listening to my Tedtalk. I'll continue practicing; hope wgmi.

>>6412054
Have you ever considered changing the opinions instead? What are they worth to you, seriously?

>>6403808
Is that a sin? It doesn't seem like a sin

I have a really inconsistent workflow. I work on a video game with a friend .I do the artistic aspects and he does the technical aspects where we combine our strong points to make something worthwhile. Sometimes i can work all day for few days without any interruptions. But sometimes i feel really down like a zombie with constant fogbrain then i lose motivation for the entire week. That is why the pipeline goes a bit slow. Hopefully i can fix having this feeling.

i didn't draw any male character for year

>>6403732
show.

>>6404180
I can relate to this. This is how I got through majority of art school. Created things I enjoyed and made up meaningful bullshit to please the tutors and pass the classes.

People don't realize that sometimes you draw because you want to draw. Nothing I make has my emotions, life struggles or a message to the world in it.


My confession? I feel immense hatred towards digital artists that don't know how to create art traditionally as well. Relying on Ctrl+Z, layers, masks and morph tools does not make you a good artist. Using these tools to aid the skills you learned traditionally is. If you can't create traditional art which is remotely similar to your digital work, you aren't a good artist.

>>6413062
It is because you are a retard that didn't try out both. While i enjoy both digital is more convenient to me since you can just start a canvas with a click of a button. Layering and organising things also make it very convenient for me.

>>6413067
I have been doing both professionally for years now, retard. I am not saying that digital art is bad, I really enjoy it myself. I am just stating that you are not a good artist if you don't know how to be versatile and create good drawings without the help of a computer.

>>6403728
I go to art school.
>>6404180
Me too. I do have stories but it's not for any grandiose intention or anything deep they're just stories like an autistic child would make for fun. I just do it because I like to and I draw about stupid things. I don't like the label of an artist and I would never consider myself one.

>>6413094
pyw

>>6413062
I wouldn't say hatred but I don't respect artists who can't draw trad.
I started in trad and only later adopted a tablet, because they just weren't highly available or affordable to average consumers until I was in high school. I can say with full confidence that digital is art on easy mode once you adapt to using a tablet. The only actual risk is hardware failure or a file save going wrong, and more features every year get automated to do the rendering for you or convincingly filter a photograph. All the program features available would be an extremely expensive if not impossible thing to mimic irl. And time consuming.
That being said it's ideal for poorer artists who can invest in a one time purchase of a tablet. And it's ideal for industry and speeding up workflow. I don't disrespect digital artists, I am one, but I just can't respect the ones who can't recreate what they do onto paper or canvas. Functionally being an artist means being able to recreate an image, regardless of medium. Your fundamentals should apply to paper or pixels or even your own shit smeared on a wall. I've gone back to trad recently and it's been very rewarding, sometimes I get asked to paint things for people, but I don't have the funds to go beyond scribbling in my sketchbook. I'll still consider myself digital, but if someone hands me a napkin and a pen at the Papa Johns to prove I can draw you better believe I'll prove it.
No respect to anyone who can't.

>>6413115
Better phrasing of what i meant. Fully agree with you anon.

>>6403728
I draw hijabis with giant breasts almost exclusively, and the combination of fabric, large objects, and facial focus taught me more about drawing than Dodson. Never porn cuz sex is gross. Just SoL stuff.

>>6404180
People talk a lot about "making it" here but this is actually what making it looks like. Making what you like and being at peace.

I just come here to make AI threads and delusional threads.

>>6403728
I spent my first one and a half years of art autistically grinding fundies without trying to draw anything of my own and realised I have no creative process when I tried. How do I bring back my teenage fantasy period?

>>6403733
Don't worry with Nyanners it's all true.

>>6413669
This is why I wrote down every cool flash of inspiration on a notepad so I don't forget it when I have the skills.

>>6403809
Same but I'm a painter, so you'd never know.

>>6413669
Don't you have any original sketch from a long time ago or something?
You could use that to adapt, until you get more creative.
Basically what >>6413715 said.

>>6403728
I tried to do some NFT art and lost all my confidence

>>6403728
I made porn of Samos Hagai going balls deep into Samus Aran. I don’t wish to post it, but it should be floating around somewhere on the internet.

>>6414235
That's disgusting you should be ashamed of yourself. Do you have a link tho? Link plz

>>6403728
I'm my favorite artist. Nobody draws the subjects I do in the way I prefer them quite myself. I respect and enjoy the works of many other artists, but in the end, I love my work.

>>6403809
>that picture
kek, I hope that isn't your edited result

>>6414241
I gotchu senpai.

I take way too long on stuff because I idle/procrastine/get distracred

1. I finished a big piece of art in october and i thought - finally i'm free, i can draw whatever i want. I haven't drawn anything since. I just look at all my art supplies, and go play videogames, or just scroll social media, or watch youtube.
2. But i have to do trade on the next week with another artist, and also send the artgift to the friend on the New Year. And if i want to be in time, i need to do both drawings on the weeken.
3. I also gave myself promise that i will do 12 paintings this year (one painting in one month), because usually i do 5-7 and it's not enough. Guess how many paintings i did in this year? Fucking two. Two fucking paintings.
4. I had a plan to paint every day of my vacation in June (25 days). And at least 3-4 times to draw landscapes from nature. What I did? I installed video games from my childhood and spent my whole vacation on them.

I'm such a lazy and week-willed asshole. I'm NGMI.

I did an art request for a random person that asked and it has turned out to be some of my best work. I feel deep down that I have fucked myself out of a commission and will become this random’s future example of getting art for free

I am a completely delusional storyteller.

I,with all intent purpose and architecture, actually convinced myself that these cartoons that are clumsily drawn while sitting in waiting room or bowling alley, are....Important. The ideas brought to the table, the authenticity of the characters and their decisions, all this stuff can be,could be,must be,has,and to such extent, will continue to be....Important. I had a webcomic up for 10 years,and never encountered real feedback. I wanted a more streamlined process of storytelling where through having the time and leisure where I would draw in pencil ,scan the bits into Photoshop, and after isolating the important bits,I would stockpile the images in their folder farm,and it allows me to maximize my strip creation time,and the story structure would be newspaper sized, and I would be able to generate a strip a week after I got home from stocking shelves all night. I was aiming for a "product" that I could consistently deliver weekly after stockpiling a few dozen strips for the leeway.

It was the plan. But circumstances kept me away from the computer for long periods of time, my life swallowed by the troubles of the single mother who I was dating, and later married. So,to keep busy,and sane, I brought sketchbooks and ballpoint pens,and on the second page (I leave the first page blank,or a simple title) l drew a demon head. When I randomly sketch out variations of a story element, I don't know what will come out,and the first few squiggles made a demon head shaped form reveal itself from the white murk. Then I encased it in a bubble,and decided where it fit in my universe. The demon head was the interface of some huge fantastic castle, a scheming spirit that ran the castle...

So I was stuck following this woman around with her kid,who is so ruthless that I have to be on guard around her lest I be caught up in one of her cockamamie schemes. She threw away 15 garbage bags full of our belongings from the storage room next to hers,and I could only rescue a basketful before the garbage men came. I told her mother,she screamed at the kid,who was 20,and what do you think her reaction was?

Remorse? Shame? Not her.

She screamed at ME for interfering, because if I didn't show up early in the morning at home that day,the garbage bags would be gone and no one the wiser. And she sounded like a Scooby Doo villain griping about those Meddlesome Kids. If she wanted stuff gone,all she would need to do is make it a Mother Daughter time,order pizza,give some attention to this woman who longs for the company of her kid again. It's what I would advise, if asked.

Instead, she insults me,or tries to goad me into hitting her,charging across the room wielding a pet barrier gate like a club,intending to batter me,expecting me to attack her ,but stopping short,her feign failed. She was taken away from her mother for " abuse" ,but I think that the kid was trying to live with her grandmother, a higher social class,and once this happened, I had the woman camped in my studio apartment, because she couldn't face the empty apartment.

I am a gentleman, and sympathetic, and to toss her out would be heartless. So I accommodated my world to hers,which was work-draw-masturbate-sleep until then,and now I was away from my computer nearly all the time. So I drew a demon head, and thought of why it was there.

And a Story happened.

And after 180 strips,it continues. When I first started drawing these as a continuous story,they weren't meant to be seen at all,mere notes to myself for plot and designing. A second page was made,an expansion of the story alluded to in the first,from another perspective. Then a third,continuing the story. For the newspaper sized strip, I storyboarded 30 strips,quickly, roughly,and was intent on doing the same with this story. But after the 30th strip,I realized that this was the story that I was telling now,and put more effort into it. But still being Notes to Myself, they aren't well conceived, but still hold importance as exposition, lore,canon,and history of their world. They carry the plot a little bit further, and we experience a little bit more of the situations that the characters find themselves in. I had the idea of marketing the whole body of work as an Intellectual Property ready for some Financial Remuneration and strategic merchandising. I have stories to tell.

But is the story Good,despite its flaws? Am I successfully communicating the history of the world along with its present situation. Do readers understand the nuances of this person's behavior? The one time I installed forums on my website, the only joiners were sellers of black market Viagra from South America. I wanted to be like the webcomic The Order of the Stick, who has been also telling a vast story for over a decade. He uploaded chunks of story,and had lots of merchandise. I wanted the same thing,to be financially supported by my comic,and to tell the story. So I never got feedback from anyone who ever saw the comic. But I see its merit,its significance,its heart. Am I delusional about this?
Is my story worth following?

Have a few more strips.
I'll shut up now.

>>6414548
It's very confusing to read, and you seem like a very confused man. But there is passion in your marks, and I'm sure anybody with the patience, time and open-mindedness to read through it would find value in your story.

I'm not an expert, but if my advice is worth anything, I would tell you to focus on making it a bit more comprehensible, to refine what you already have. If you took this and somehow modified it into a more standard comic structure, I'm sure many more people would be interested in it. Think Berserk. It doesn't need to be colorful - it just need to be more structured. As it is now, the disorganization of ideas makes it unappealing and off-putting, I have a hard time figuring out in what order I should read the panels, what comes after what. It doesn't look like a strip, there is nothing guiding my eye in a continuity of events - it's all there, jumbled and confusing, all the information put forth in an explosion of thoughts and feelings. It's good as a creative exercise, as creation is usually explosive, but it needs refinement and structure in order to become digestible. When you open a book, seldom does the story develop all at the same time. It goes by parts, and it flows naturally from one event to the next. You need to think of your viewer as an infant that knows nothing of what you're trying to say to him, hold his hand, and walk him through your world, piece by piece, character by character, event by event, and thus the story starts to unravel before him, slowly and curiously.

You have talent. You can do it. Godspeed to you, friend.

>>6414329
I suggest you start making bullshit paintings on cardboard just to work out the process more. The less you care about the end state of the painting the more willing you'll be to try harder subjects and figure out issues. If it fucks the painting up who cares, it was going in the trash anyway. You could easily do 52 trash paintings next year, and you'll learn way more too.
Do you paint in oils acrylics or watercolor? I used to think acrylics were the easiest but now I actually feel like oils are far more forgiving, because there's no rush. Watercolors are black magic and I don't touch them.

>>6403728
I have just started to paint and did not notice that I bought a set of matte paints and so now my first ever painting of a fruit looks like it joined the army

I unironically draw faster with a mouse because I don't have the self-control to not draw > erase > draw > erase > draw every line when I'm using a stylus. (help haha)

One time when I was in high school I sent death threats to a kid the whole class used to pick on from my own cell number for shits and giggles. One day later his mother called me and I gave all my information to her without thinking twice. Next thing I know, I have a criminal record and can't get a normal job.

I have been through so many levels of coomerism drawing porn for money that vanilla sex just doesn't cut it anymore. The only things that makes me cum are unattainable in life, i want to fuck aliens and dragons.

I have not tried to improve in drawing for about 4 to 6 months. I have not seriously drawn in that period.

>>6413792
I actually only started drawing from that time, before I had never even tried drawing stick figures and everything sucked so I decided to just do the fundie grind. I had ideas but my family had beaten me down so hard to force me to do STEM they actively discouraged and blocked me from art.

I never learned fundamentals. I just draw and redraw shapes until they resemble what I'm going for. On computer of course.
I don't even know how I would learn them.

>>6415660
I was like "lady I'm like 15 i wouldn't be physically able to kill your son" and "we study in the same class" but she wasn't having any of it. Talking about how her uncle was a lawyer and how her brother in law was a police captain.
In the end my parents had to pay this fine and i almost got institutionalized.

This kid, he had the personality of Butters from South Park and one day he had a surgery to remove his foreskin. He came to class walking funny because of the post-op and we nicknamed him penguin.

When he was around girls we would clown him, saying that he did bottom surgery.

>>6407767
Sounds like you're being too precious over your art.
If you're drawing for practice, the result should be an afterthought anyway.
Try to stay focused on what you're doing but also enjoy the process.
And if in the end of the day you're still dissatisfied with the results you could just draw the same thing again, eventually you'll improve.
It's like being fat, going to the gym and getting demoralised cause you're not ripped after one day of exercise.

>>6413669
>"Reading! Read everything. it doesn't do you much good to draw unless you have something to draw and the only place you can get anything to draw is from out of that head. And the only way that you can exercise the mind is by bringing new ideas to it.."

-Chuck M. Jones

>>6403813
This isn't gatekeeping. It is pure natural order that knowledge is only sought after and obtained by those who care enough to teach themselves. But of course that's just common sense. Priding yourself on this says a lot about who you are as a person.

>>6404239

>>6403728
I truly am not living up to my potential :(

>>6415866
people say stupid shit like "seek help". seek enlightenment

I don't like drawing, but people give me compliments and i don't have much sense of identity besides that so sometimes i feel like i have to.

I basically draw one month every year, and progress is basically non existant. But those couple compliments a year keep me going

>>6414712
You're about as confused as me, but actually manage to draw. Based schizo 70s era furry guy. If you learned to animate you could have been a modern ralph bakshi.

I tried to read your story but i'm very tired so the only advice i have is ditch the handwritten text. It's cool as an original, but it's hard to parse.

>>6403732
Awesome! You've established your own style !

>>6403733
This is the essence of art! Thank you for creating original pieces!

>>6403734
You hold this to high regard. If you're doing good without it, then feel free to abandon traditions :)

>>6403740
Thank you for your confession, as for your absolution; do two gloss and material breakup concepts :)

>>6403749
You are forgiven!
For this sin, however, you must draw an original background :)

>>6403755
You have created yourself an obtainable goal, this is no sin :)

>>6403802
This is alright. The perfect day will come to you where you can draw :)

>>6403808
This is the best way to create!
If you seek a career within the arts however, expanding your knowledge it necessary :)

>>6403809
You have accomplished what other artists have not, and that's liking your art, and this is no sin :)

>>6404049
You are only externalizing what these artists perhaps may already believe of themselves and others. This is a necessary part of an artist's journey. Feel free to continue, though I hope all of these artists can show you they can overcome :)

>>6404057
I am uncertain if this affects your artistic ability, but creating art in this headspace would be amazing for others to see and resonate with :)

>>6415961
>>6415956
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>>6415898

I beg of you, just reply to everything in one post rather than 10

>>6404059
My father told me 'Name your price in the beginning. If it ever gets more expensive than the price you name, get out of there.
-Dave Chappelle

You're on the right path :)

>>6404072
This path that you have laid out for yourself will be a long one, but necessary :)

>>6415966
nah

I've been getting commissions since July to fix AI art instead of creating original content that's exhausting and burns out my creative energy faster. My skill improved significantly because I learned to find flaws to fix and noticed it on my own art without being accused of tampering some smug artists "art".

I make storyboards for my own anime series and have filled multiple notebooks full of them. I plan the camerawork, sfx, dialogue, timing, everything. I'll obviously never do anything with them and they are most certainly unusable, but it brings me great pleasure.

>>6416133
>they are most certainly unusable
Don't say that, anon.
Have you considered making a VN? You can draw art for CG's in it, use your written dialogue lines, find the right sfx and other stuff. The end result can be pretty close to your original idea, kind of an interactable anime, which is basically what VN's are.

>>6414877
I paint in oil, yes. But i also make more simple and fast pieces in watercolor, colorpencils or pastel. That's exactly what i had planned to do after finishing big piece.
The problem is really just me being a lazy ass and solves by stopping being one.

Thanks for the advice though, i think it's good. I just need to start, the start is the hardest part of it.

>>6415878
As I have said,none of these comics were for public consumption, only there to be my own personal notations for the story that grew organically from random sketches and too much free time. I took it seriously around #30,and decided to clear up the word balloons far later along with simple Photoshopping to fix bigger problems. Here is an example of how my original planned comic was to be: smaller in scope,easier to produce, and ready for collating into physical book collections and syndication. The other stuff only made it to the website because I had nothing else to upload,and instead of a long drought of new content,I thought it would be better than nothing.

At its height, traffic to my site was nearly 6000 unique visitors per month,and 99% of those were from direct links using the domain name, as in a saved bookmark. Otherwise it had between 3 to 4000 visitors. I have no idea how "good" this was,never having feedback from anywhere else but the server's demographics, but I kept going with it format wise because it was enough "stuff" to keep a new strip biweekly, and maybe real people were returning to follow the story.

>>6414617
How is this related to the thread?

>>6403728
i trace

>>6416338
My strip's history, and whether or not I am committing the sin of self delusion in believing that it has importance, worth,significance and its philosophies stand both the tests of reason and logic. I have watched a universe unfold under my pen,and I am more interested in what opinion the writing. I have to convey a lot of exposition in a page at times,or just give in into an image make the white page withdraw with deft black lines. I think that I am a Writer than an Artist,but it's the harmony of the page that matters. So when I have exposition to explain, like this summing up of several major plot points, I try to balance it out with more drawing.

Is joint accounting a common thing? I found out one artist I followed for years was doing this with his wife. It's where 2 artists or more share a single account. Now I'm wondering just how many Japanese artists follow this practice.

Actually, I see it all the time on social media sites like Facebook where couples and family members share 1 account.

Also,exploring the Delusion aspect of the writing and world building, and am I succeeding in conveying a world unto itself, with art and plot and will the details be retained long enough to support the Lore of it all. Am I telling my story competently? The art isn't Mcfarlane, merely "me": a headlong rush into the unknown, stumbling momentum of Art inspiring Writing inspiring Art. I feel compelled to tell stories, and have jlimited free time due to a long commute. So,I started another sketchbook comic,the full telling of the OyOy. I realize that I have limited time, and I would serve Mankind by creating as much of this story as I can. Even I sit amazed at what my characters say,and what turns out is as much as a surprise to me as my readers. So,even if the art is not grade A,maybe the writing will make up for it.

For instance, in this one particularly, I was happy to make a Heros versus Rabbit Mechs fight,but it turned into philosophy, and a side of J was revealed. Please evaluate the Worth of this. I cannot.

I already know.

I'm delusional.

i barely drew today, only 30 minutes
finals kicking my ass

>>6416460
how old are you? the comic sans makes me think you are older. are you on medication? do you experience hallucinations in your daily life? have you ever been diagnosed?

I guess my sin is Hubris. I wanted to create a world won here I could parade my values in the motivations and guise of the reflections of the environment on the characters, and how they overcome the problems it presented to them. I watched ideas blossoming under my pen,and followed them to their logical conclusion, and be stunned by the emotions that I feel from proxy through the characters. I know the history, I know the circumstances, and I know what drives them on. But does anybody else actually care what happens to these guys? Does anyone else in the world care and want more J? I can never know.

>>6416469
Relax,sailor. I'm a Protege Cranky Old Man age 57,nightworker shelf stocker,mad dreamer,pot smoking pontificator. I have just come home from work, smoked a wee bowl of super legal weed,and feel the need to Share. Lucky you. So here I am, spewing advice,or at the moment, amusing myself by just generally spewing.

>>6403728
All I want to do is create an epic battle shounen worthy of top-quality sakuga and action music.
I have neglected everything else in my life for this purpose.
I never go outside, sometimes I don't shower for weeks, there's 2 lightbulbs that need changing and other small maintenance needed around the house but I'm too busy spending every moment creating/drawing/researching/fapping/etc. whenever not eating or sleeping.
I've lost count how many people I don't talk to anymore because I didn't return their call one time, months, years ago as I was in the middle of drawing.
tl;dr - I have neglected everything else in my life to focus on creating my battle shounen manga
(webm obviously not mine)

So,after several examples of the strip,can anyone take a moment and,in a sentence, explain what went on in it. I am curious as to how this is answered.

>>6416507
didnt read ur blogpost but is that bluefireguy related to the icefireguy? i stopped watching after season 3

>>6416510
>tl;dr - I have neglected everything else in my life to focus on creating my battle shounen manga
Yes he is
You should pick it back up

Composing a strip makes me the First Reader. I read every word,seeing if the heights of the word balloons are correct in the dialogue exchanges, so that the eye can decipher a visual pattern of who is saying what. And I imagine myself trying to draw inferences from the banter and body language from a person who never saw any strip of mine before,then as a follower who was there for the whole series. Anyone could have started this story from page one,with a brief explanation and apology for the crudeness of the early strips,and I have paraphrased that in earlier posts in this thread. And a strange epic story grew: a Priest from a Martial Religious order that plunders the strongholds of Chaos mages, anthromorph wielders of forces that overwrite the whole of conventional magic,and have helped their enslaved brethren win their civil rights,ending a war for freedom that lasted centuries. Think how different our own slavery situation would be if the Africans had access to functional Voodoo magic, and would cause trouble for the overseers if they aren't careful.

Well,this imposing priest shows up on Professor Milo Pandochan's doorstep with a snowglobe excavated from a Mad Rabbit laboratory and some characters get stuck inside it. It turns out to be an immense castle in the middle of bare mountains, the wind howling with snow as they race to the doorway and wander inside. And the mystery slowly unravels. I told the story to find out what happened, for my edification and hopefully my readers as well. Does anyone really want to know?

Off to bed. I will pester you in a few hours. One last evaluation. Did you find the ideas of anything in these strips...Profound? A revelation, a new perspective, a revealing understanding. It's what I happen to stumble upon at times,and I wonder if I am the only one that thinks this.

>>6416507
Ngmi because the more this medium gets inspired by itself worse it gets. You need to be intellectually diverse in a sense to create something unique and interesting like how the good mangakas did unless you want to make another derivative garbage.

>>6403728
i cant draw anything without reference, nothing
I reference every single part of a drawing

>>6416640
When did I say battle shounen was the inspiration for my battle shounen? I wasn't always a terminally online hermit.

I'm not drawing right now because my ass is too itchy

>>6407623
Make a separate pixiv account with a different identity and start dumping them there. Don't forget to mosaic censor the shit out of cocks and pussies (you dont have to censor puffy slits though, unless the bean is showing). You'll be a loli king in no time, with no issues

I managed to do one drawing at the start of the year that looks better than everything since.

>>6413031

>>6403728
My commission is closed, but not really. I just take commissions only from returning customers and the ones that I know arent pain in the butt DMing me every single day.

>realize I'm spreading myself thin with my hobbies
>drop art even though I never really started
>waste time posting this instead of getting better at the things I didn't drop

I "rediscovered" a video I left in private earlier of myself giving notes on how I draw as sort of like a save file for my memory of sorts and I came to the conclusion that I already know how to draw a lot better than I thought and should just use my strengths. Meaning, there really was no need to tack on more basic tutorials at this stage in my life I literally built up muscle memory that's etched in my brain that there are some hand movements I noticed and decision making that I can't explain as easily but it comes out naturally.

Whereas if I go learn another person's pattern it feels like learning to draw all over again and it's completely unnecessary. I've been thinking I forgot how to draw but, like, I really haven't. I was just rejecting my own process for an unknown reason.

I never studied or grinded.

>>6418300
dont you want your character to be the main focus? i see nothing wrong with blurring the background. only people thats gonna cry about none polished backgrounds are other artists and small amount of normies. your backgrounds are convincing enough so i see no problem here, looks decent.

>>6419034
thanks, but I really should be pushing my boundaries more

>>6403728
I rush my art because I have a busy life schedule and people who never let me sit down for more than 10 minutes living around me. The more I just sit on a drawing it looks good to me but then I feel guilty because other artists are produ ing a lot more than me faster.

I draw for attention and validation

>>6419595
how has that been working for you

>>6403728
I gave up.

>>6403728
I don't draw lolicon hentai/having sex, but I love drawing naked loli doing normal things nude (going to the beach nude, lounging around the house nude, nude in school) etc.
It's the innocence and naturalness I enjoy.

The last thing I drew was in Febuary. I am trying to get back into the habit today.

>>6419522
Eh, blurring the background is the better method. Too much details in the background will just spread the viewer's attention thin instead.

I'm terrified to make the OC animations ive been sketching/planning/writing about for the past 4 years. I have had success doing parodies, but it was always based on someone else existing characters/world/etc. If I do make these animations and they get no traction, then it will break whatever artistic merit i currently think I have which then reflects on my own self worth...

>>6420127
>what is composition

>>6403728
I spent the last few days shitposting in ai threads on /ic/ instead of drawing

>>6420224

hmmm

>>6420224
Me too. I only filled one page in the last 2 days. I want to participate in the zeitgeist!

>>6420033
in college people irl loved my art and it felt so good
Nowadays sometimes i get a bit of attention and it fuels me to create another piece
sometimes i get nothing or even a negative comment and it makes me want to disappear forever

I draw because I cannot.

And what is worth this morning?

i cant even make fucking threads anymore
they dont even show up

>>6404202
I did this for a year. Came back with a clearer head. Focus on why you do it, for fun. If you're not doing it for fun you'll never get far

I want to draw for myself and have fun as I did back in my late teens, but I also yearn for online fame and money

>>6422209
>money
You're in the wrong profession.
>online fame
being someone's dopamine rush for about 3 to 5 seconds before scrolling to the next piece of content

I confess, I thought artstation job offers were real, they're just a marketing strategy but i decided to believe it.

> wanna procrastinate on drawing
> lets check out /ic/ for a while
> it's all pajeetnigger spamming AI thread
> oh welp close it and start drawing


> maybe lets check this board again
> remembered this board is mostly AI pajeetnigger spam
> oh well start doing something else instead

You know what, all these pajeetnigger spamming their goyslop is making me more productive with my time.

i accuse other anons of using AI work falsely and make my own AI threads because I see other people do it now

I'm sorry. I wish I could stop but it fills me with an adrenaline rush when the entire catalog gets filled with AI threads and when people reply to the ones I make. All while Noone being able to figure out who I am

>>6423212
We know your name and country of origin, Aneeldeep .

>>6404167
Same
>treat my characters like like friends
>don't do art of a multiple characters dur to live circumstances
>start having thoughts about my characters wondering what the fuck Im doing
>starts feeling guilty
I legit don't know if im way too deep to be saved

>>6423611
I kinda feels like making a bunch of anime schoolgirl yuri action school life series just to cope at the youth life that I lost spending grinding MMOs back in the early 2010's. Coulda spent those time with my schoolmates but welp, cant turn back time now.

>>6403728
I keep making excuses to avoid drawing because I suck at it
This has been going on for months and I can't stop

>>6423737
read this, and stop this shit now. you will hate yourself in 10 years time when you have mindlessly wasted your time consuming for years and years. i am a future you, heed my warning.

>>6423745
NTA but looks interesting, thanks anon!

>>6403728
I'm learning anatomy
but not the kind you think of
(gurofag)

I don't like drawing. Nobody does. What I like is being in flow.
Boxers don't like getting punched in the face. Cooks don't like cutting their fingers.

>>6404167
I feel the same way but I don't even think it's a cope anymore. I could live a healthy social if I wanted to and I have before, but it's so boring to me. I enjoy talking to people casually or saying hello but I can't really get to know someone beyond interests and hobbies. Anything beyond talking about the weather or shared interests I cannot connect to because real people don't interest me and I get bored talking to someone for more than an hour. I find the real world fascinating in many ways and love to learn about the world but real people I just cannot connect with on a personal level, maybe I have autism or narcissist something. It's as if I only have interest in people if it's to feed my own thirst for knowledge, like I love meeting people from different cultures and people with valuable knowledge but I'm not actually interested in them as a person, only the insight they have that I don't. My characters are a lot more entertaining to me than real people. I voluntarily choose not to have friends because I don't think it's a worthwhile pursuit.

>>6424331
Do you get punched in the face or have your fingers cut while you art? Lol, I can't imagine something less of a chore than sitting in perfect comfort indulging in an idea. Though even if it wasn't, I don't think you can separate an act from it's inherent pleasure. Not as a standalone "in a vacuum" so to speak.

>>6403728
I tell girls I'm an artist, and when they ask to see my work, I have to find months old non-rule 34 to show them, or draw something on the spot.
ive also been brutally mogged by a girls own art, and utterly embarrassed myself

>>6420218
he's right though, what's not in focus should have less of your attention.

>>6403809
based and shortcut pilled

>>6404113
>>6404167
>>6423611
>>6424408
writerfag here. this is normal.
every character you make, unless you're specifically going out of your way to make them the opposite of you, will always have an aspect of you in them.
it's what makes them human.

>>6425504
what if I made them from ai

>>6425485
draw some non-lewd stuff for when they ask to see some stuff.
hell, draw some pg-13 to R stuff, then after you break the ice on the normal stuff, you can ask them if they want to see your "more adult themed stuff" and that you "usually don't like to show it to people, but feel comfortable with them"

>>6425509
the visuals matter less than the story you give them, even if it's only in your mind.

I decrypt mega links for my own nefarious purposes

>>6403728
I used 3D for feet, shoes, hats, guns, etc. Find some of the models on sketchfab, rotate it to get the right angle I want, screenshot it, paste it onto my artwork, trace over it. It cuts down a hell lot of work especially useful when I had a lot of commissions going on.

I think I finally found a legitimate number 1 purpose to draw that has nothing to do with drawing, but as a byproduct to drawing.

i get the most insecure when i see people who are on a similar level to my skill because they remind me of how much more i need to improve to surpass them (if they are slightly better than me) or they make me worry if my artwork gives off a similar vibe as theirs (if they are slightly worse than me)

>>6403728
I never finish anything

>>6425786
Honestly I think this is a legitimate thing to do, especially when you're under pressure. Even pros do it under some circumstances, I remember Inio Asano (or his assistants) drawing over photos for his backgrounds

>>6425786
You shouldn't use 3D for organic and anatomic objects. It's understandable to use it for guns and cars because they're complex objects that need to maintain accurate proportions, but if you can't foreshorten or imagine other objects in different angles and perspectives it will cost you later

>>6425496
shut up you cum junkie you don't even paint

>>6424471
everything is a chore. you brush your teeth and shower because you have to. You eat because you have to. Drawing is just like that, its maintenance, but for your soul.

stared at a blank canvas for 5 hours and couldnt put a single line down. i could have fapped, i could have played vidya. this is actually WORSE than doing nothing.

i have like 20 animatics in my head every one is set to a different song i keep listening to them and tweaking the stories but i never actually draw anything for it not even a storyboard bc it's so perfect in my head i don't wanna ruin it. I'll make a character sheet for one tommorow to at least get the ball rolling