/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Just posted in the last thread but I’ll repost here too. This is my first time drawing with a tablet in Krita. What do you think? Also any Krita tips?

>>6402452
Looks like a basic warmup sketch
Thought for a second there the date was calling out a post number lol

I don't know where to begin with improving, any tips or critiques welcome

>>6402452
Are you a woman? Looks good btw

What are some good resources for drawing backgrounds? Feel like that's where I'm severely lacking

>>6402491
yeah, wanna see my boobs?

>>6402504
No, bitch

>>6402504
Only as a study reference

Beg continuing Bridgman. It certainly gives good pointers such as cutting in shapes and line of balance stuff, as well as mapping where weight-bearing foot should go. Feels better than trying to draw simplifies gestures and figures from photos since it's hard to simplify when you are just starting out.

>>6402504
A sketched self portrait would suffice

>>6402491
Unfortunately.

First week over.

>>6402443
The abstract art schizo is evolving???

>>6402449
Dangerously Based

>>6402449
blog?
I think I recognize your style from a year or two ago, iirc everyone was calling you a permabeg.

Some brush experimentation.

Drew some snowy mountains for today

>>6402606
Reference

>>6402526
>unfortunately
God I remember that phase. I hope you grow out of it soon, it's so fucking stupid.

wondows

begging lel

>>6402664
reference lol

I feel so blind to my own art now I cant decide if I want to post half of what I make cause I can't tell if it's good or shit

>>6402715
Just bee yourself

Am I good so far?

>>6402736
Idk why its flipped

>>6402614
>>6402526
Be my gf?

>>6402736
are you Marc?

>>6402745
I'll decide after you pyw

>>6402747
Marc Diekiese? Yes

>>6402749
ms paint

>>6402736
Tell me your secret to draw like that

People don't use Paint Tool SAI anymore, do they? I always get jealous seeing people post brushes or tips for other programs.

>>6402749

roblox t shirt hmmmm

>>6402783
Cute

>>6402443
cont. >>6399460
Today's drawing, even if nobody coments.
I'm trying to focus on shapes and 3d more and more.

>>6402443
some Bridgman studies

>>6402616
I love autistic crosshatching like this

What did you guys learn today?

>>6402831
How to simplify anatomy without drawing bold and thick lines. Also how to gesture draw quickly without breaking down every piece of the body and wasting time.

Thanks for asking Anon.

>>6402831
Skulls

>>6402831
The true meaning of deep depression

this is fun

>>6402831
That I need psychiatric help

>>6402831
about vanishing points and the eye level

how do i study loomis? do i just copy the images on the book and understand them? how many times do i copy them?

>>6402852
Copy the images, try to read as much of it as you can, and apply the lessons to figure/portrait references as you go.

Is Krenz good for learning proportion?

Tried sketching a little canal. Unsure if I want to continue it.

>>6402831
Observation and visual measuring

I need to learn how to draw for my other hobbies (as well as learning to draw for itself, of course), but I want to be as efficient about it as possible.
How many hours a day is optimal in terms of gainz?
What are some good objectives/goals to start out with?

>>6402831
I tried focusing on perspective. I'm not really sure if I learned anything today.

>>6402807
It sure is autistic and it sure hurts my hands but I can't stop.

>>6402944

What do you do if you have a perspective point that would be off your paper?

>>6402951
grab another piece of paper

>>6402951
imagine it

>tfw getting better at doing poses in 3-8 minutes (supposed to be 5 minutes but i wanted to fill in a bit more detail in some of them afterwards)
progressTM is fun

>>6402443
Dog

>>6402951
imagination but if you wanted to you could set up something like a cork board clamped to the table then stick a tack in it and loop a string around the tack. you could use the string as a straight edge at that point

progress

Beginner here, 2 months of painting in oil not a student or anything (not a flex) not sure how this looks just wanted some advice. I haven't decided on the shadow yet from the light or just to keep it as is

>>6403026
Cool

Every time I attempt to study anything, I feel like my drawings outside the study get significantly worse.

>>6403040
Thank you anon

>>6402577
Nothing’s changed. I’m still considered one of the worst artists here.
No blog though.

>>6403078
I feel like your construction is pretty decent, but you should probably ditch the anthropomorphous caricature styles and do some deep dives into human (and maybe animal) anatomy and proportions. Like really grind the fuck out of it until it just clicks.

any help on feeling overwhelmed? I specifically want to focus on figure drawing. However, I ordered a bunch of books which have already arrived and I do not know where to start. I am not a complete beg.

>Figure Drawing Design and Invention by Michael Hampton
> Figure Drawing for All Its Worth by Andrew Loomis
> Basic Human Anatomy by Roberto Ortis
> Dynamic Human Anatomy by Roberto Ortis
> Figure Drawing for Artists by Steve Huston
> Drawing From Life by George Bridgeman
> How to Draw the Marvel the Marvel Way

I've been doing skull studies supplemented with vilppus lectures on skulls and honestly they seem pretty easy to draw. Does anatomy get harder from here? I imagine hands are feet will probably be the hardest...

The pics gonna be flipped but whatever

>>6403184

>>6402831
Clothing folds, couldn't wrap my brain around them for a while but I'm starting to get it

>>6402831
i drew cubes

>>6403197
how did you learned? can you give me some tips?

been busy for a few days, but back at it

>>6402944
I like your block head guy. What's he supposed to be?

>>6403220
Not that anon but Ron Lemen’s anatomy of clothing really helped me

your turn to die!!!!!!!!!! .-,

>>6403354
how did you learn to render like that? what figure drawing instruction helped you the most?

>>6403363
I’m still pretty new to the rendering part myself anon, specific courses on rendering never seemed to help me. So I basically just started observing my artists draw in real time, I think that was a good idea. I’m really fond of Jeff Watts gouache tiling approach and Sinix’s old dry brush painting technique, and Jens Claessens

please critique, what did i get wrong?

>>6403367
is there anything specific you do to practice? do you set time limits on your studies, say, 30 minutes, and do you mainly paint from photos, other artists, or imagination?

>>6403390
Without seeing your references you're just going to get proportion checks, which you can do yourself by overlaying your references.

Can you push the gesture further (exaggerated line of action)?

anybody else have an easier time studying fundies in trad, than in digital?

>>6403403
Are the proportions wrong, i thought they looked fine.
i tried pushing the gesture further but people told me that it was too much and the bodies looked weird.

>>6402475
I'd do a figure drawing course, although the proportions aren't that bad.
>>6402511
Based bridgeman anon, keep at it gmi
>>6402556
First week of what?
>>6402606
Too few people do landscapes even though they're more forgiving than doing figures
Great place to start out since you'll see good results faster.
But don't be afraid to do other stuff aswell!
Also look into hatching it'll look alot nicer shading stuff that way.

>>6403026
I don't think alot opf trad painters come here there used to be a trad general but idk where it went.
Looks good to me although I don't really paint like it looks rough but I guess that's the texture of the canvas
Do you have one of those heads at home to paint, that's pretty cool

>>6403354
>>6403367
Always love seeing your work here anon. I can definitely see Sinix's influence, seeing his painting process always motivates me

>>6403390
Hi anon. you did really good, and this practice will be so beneficial for you to improve your drawing skills. Moving forward, try to be really strict on your construction, especially building things out of simple spheres, boxes, and cylinders. Don't be shy about showing construction lines / geometric forms, it'll only pay you back dividends. Here, I drew over your figures using only simple spheres and cylinders. I even constructed the hips out of a sphere, and though that's not perfectly anatomical, it's a good initial placeholder

>>6403354
many thanks

>>6403415
Yeah, I always thought that landscapes are much more fun to draw as a beginner. Shading is kinda tough though. Mountains always appear to have a dozen of small hills on them, which all have their own shadow. Hopefully my landscapes will look better in time.

hey guys here's my latest work, any thoughts/critics?

>>6403605
the gesture is nice, and you tried to make the head have shape. the overall composition is pretty pleasing, overall good job!
from the image, it seems like you approached the image like a set of outlines that you color in, a bit like a coloring book. this becomes apparent in spots like her thighighs. the thought was probably something like "this is where the leg ends. this is where the thigh high starts", but there is no sense that the leg actually continues to exist underneath, because now the priority becomes "do the outlines of the thighhigh".
try to also give the image a fixed light source, this will make it easier to apply light and shadow.

>>6403623
thanks for the feedback. if I understood, I need to make apparent the shape of the legs beneath the skirt via the addition of folds and the following, underlying rendering, right?

:D

>>6403646
the legs were only an example of something that pertains to the entire image imo. try thinking of the body as a volumimous object, a combination of 3D shapes, instead of thinking of it as a certain amount of lines that surround a person or thing.
i'm not a pro at construction either, but i would have made the figure roughly like this. hope that helps.

>>6403688
I feel like you're pointing out to a flaw core to me that I can slightly perceive, but I fail to transpose the general idea of your take on how exactly my drawing should be looking like when applying this concept. it's true that I started off with a really simple lineart and then tried afterwards to compensate for the lack of 3D shapes with a careful rendering. on your exemple, the pose is slightly different, the clothes are sticking to the skin consequently giving more room for the 3D shapes and forms of the body to slightly protude and become apparent, and this permits to add in more relevant shadows. the gist of the issue as I currently grasp it, is that my current pose as opposed to yours doesn't open up any margin for further elaborated 3D shapes. are we on the same page?

>>6403557
Nice Kongs

>>6403415
>Based bridgeman anon, keep at it gmi
Thanks. Filled out unfinished sheet and some more, and tried doing hands. I keep making fingers too long.
Another thing I wonder about is line economy. So far I can only get results close enough to the reference by building a ''net'' of lines, which looks messy. Otherwise different parts can go in whatever direction.

>>6402443

>>6403724
What might help with the fingers is the two thirds rule
They become 2/3rd the length of the previous bone after each knuckle
Also drawing 50/50 between hand and fingers.

>>6403288
It's a secret. But he's just an ordinary man with an extraordinary head.

>>6403707
don't worry, you'll eventually get the hang of it. figure drawing really helps in that regard, at some point you just get a rough understanding of the geometry of a body, but unfortunately this isn't really something you can skip without practice.
your pose is fine, a more shape-like approach would work for it! i was just careless and was looking at a smaller cutout of your drawing when i was drawing it, and it accidentally came out that way ^^;;;

As a /beg/ I feel like I shouldn't get a drawing tablet yet, however I also feel like it would inspire me to practice more. Thoughts?

>>6403767
i'd recommend for you to get a cheap one anyway. digital drawing has some rather different facets than working with traditional media in terms of both workflow itself, functions of various software, and the mechanical component of a stylus just behaving differently from, say, a pencil or brush.
getting used to those things on the way to learning fundies will definitely be a plus!

>>6403767
You can just get a cheap $50 one, if you worry about overspending. Though, it probably won't inspire you enough if you get discouraged early by only being able to symbol draw (what happened with me).
If you plan on drawing digitally later, you should get it though since you'll have to get used to it at some point anyway.

ok, where is the fucking book/course for people who have never picked up a pencil in their life
literally everything presumes some sort of preexisting skill

>>6403767
I'm /beg/ and I bought a drawing tablet so I wouldn't have to buy as much paper. I think it's better to start traditional since that's what most of the recommended beginner books will be considering, but there's nothing wrong with getting a cheap tablet and seeing if you enjoy drawing digitally.

>>6403772
>>6403774
>>6403778
Thanks anons. Yeah eventually doing digital drawing is definitely the ambition. I just had this idea that as a /beg/ I should at least put some work into paper drawing first as that's more "fundamental" or whatever, but I do find it a little bit awkward having to manage all the paper and pencils and stuff and desu I'm embarrassed about my housemates seeing my drawings lol.

>>6403776
Keys To Drawing idk

>>6403776
sticky

>>6403661
cute pantsu

>>6403785
no lol
>>6403786
have you actually read the sticky? it's literally just "practice drawing circles or something, no we won't tell you how to improve"

>>6403790
where's your circles

>>6403714
I think 94's left hand should have more fur

>>6403761
ngl the way you write makes me horny

>>6403776
Drawabox maybe, if you like grinding. You could always start out just trying to draw things you see in your room or outside. There are plenty of videos on YouTube that can help get you started, too, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0.. You could also think of something you like, like your favorite animal or character, and then look up "how to draw x" even adding "simple" or "cartoon" to see how people go through the process. I'm also starting out, and I can relate to how you feel. I think it has to do with how a lot of people want to draw people as soon as possible, which actually requires a lot of thought going into it.
What's helping me right now is finding things to stay motivated. I don't try to go through each book all at once, but I skim them and find things that may help me at my current skill level. After a while, I come back to them and try to pick up a few more little things. It's all about staying motivated and just making a bit of progress as time goes on. It's a slow process for me, though. I would say I'm only at the level of a middle schooler going through an art phase right now, but I'm better than I was a few months ago. I think it's important to recognize your own progress as you continue learning.

The more I study, the more I see imperfections in other people's drawings now. I think that's a good thing, but it also makes me think that sometimes I'm being too hard on myself and I should take it easy — which is really bad for motivation.

>>6403790
>ok, where is the fucking book/course for people who have never picked up a pencil in their life literally everything presumes some sort of preexisting skill
>book for exactly that
>no lol

Finally got enough free time for more gestures.
This time 2minutes instead of one. Usually done in 90 seconds and then i just cry for the rest of the time.

Not sure how long it will take me for these to be passable enough to get to the second chapter of Hampton. At least i see one gesture i kind of like here

Wanted to practice drawing shadows with this. Fuck man, being a beginner fucking sucks.

>>6403823
reference

>>6403823
Don't forget that front surface of the building would also have some shadow from the part of the roof that sticks out. It appears in your reference.
>>6403826
It also seems like the sun is on the opposite side in the actual picture.

>>6402443
whats the most autistic anatomy book?

>>6403830
Yeah I thought it'd be better for the sun to be in the upper right, since there'd be more shadows then. I tried to draw the front shadows from the roof, didn't I get it right? The shadows in the red circle I mean.

>>6403823
your time will be better spent drawing house shaped boxes anon

>>6403840
some medical tier reference. for artists most likely bammes

>>6403843
But that's boring :(

i like how this came out so much ima post it on ic
took about 30 mins maybe 40

>>6403869
>>6403891
you testing out your tablet in mspaint or something?

>>6403895
mspaint anon is actually a pro that hides his power level

sad

>>6403823
the book perspective made easy has a section on shadows in perspective, both shadows from the sun and one like a lamp or lightbulb, that you might find helpful. it's also helpful if you want to do something complicated like a cast shadow partially falling on an inclined surface

>>6403826
PIck a better reference.

>>6403970
Thanks for the recommendation. Maybe I'll check it out once I finish my udemy course

>>6404012
Thought this building would be great to practice shadows since it's so basic. Do you think I should draw something more complex?

>>6403026
I'm not a good artist so maybe don't listen to me, but the bottom/base shape looks quite 2d compared to the face.

>>6402443
I literally haven't started yet but I want advice on having a good mindset towards art and drawing in general. I want to build good mental habits now, especially because I can be overly hard on myself. It's part of why I want to do this. Thank you!

>>6404071
Just draw now

>>6404071
>>6404108
This, but limit yourself. Draw for only about 90 minutes to two hours a day to keep burnout from happening. Draw for yourself above everything else.

>>6404152
>2 hours a day
Ngmi

>>6404163
How many hours anon?

>>6404163
It's less about practice and more about learning patience and restraint. Letting a piece take it's time is a lesson I wish I learned earlier.

>>6404170
don't listen to him
if you have a full time job/study and other hobbies/chores this will last for a few months
go slow and steady

some 30 year old desperate fags think you need they need to turn into pros in 2 years because they have nothing else going for them

>>6404173
Those abs are sexy anon.

i have been doin taco tutorials for a week now

I feel like in this short time my knowledge of human anatomy has definitely improved, particularly how to use simple solids to construct body parts
However i feel like i am severely lacking in other areas, basically everything that is supposed to come before that.
Whenever i try to construct a human body from scratch, i find it comes out way shittier than what i want it to be, particularly when it comes to:
- proportions of the human body
- harmony of the figure

A few years ago i had read Loomis and Keys to Drawing but i think i forgot almost everything there.
I am thinking i should read those books first, and then Vilppu stuff for figure gestures?

Foreshortening practice. Imagination/construction.
Was fun, now tell me what I'm doing wrong, please.

>>6404190

Hello beg, the "new kind" of gesture is confusing me and basically i suffer.

>>6404071
Just draw and pyw every single day
>>6403963
despite inaccuracy on places like the eye i still like the result
>>6403821
looks more like attempt at construction than gesture to me
>>6403804
>>6403123
Its mandatory to PYW along your blog posting anon
>>6403776
If you have negative confidence the course for you is Drawing on the right side of the brain. If you have even a bit of confidence in yourself then its Keys to Drawing.
If you have severe autism then try out Draw a Box (video course)
>>6403767
I am a bit nerd so for me start was the day the drawing tablet actually arrived. Paper is "too retro" for me lmao. Get the biggest (large working area) screenless tablet with smallest price tag from your local shop and just draw.
>>6403726
thumbs up
>>6403605
the choice of colors and lack of any darker values makes it look extremely uncanny. The fact only her chin and upper eyes have thick outline suggests its WIP and not a finished drawing
>>6403121
Pick one with smaller number of pages lolo
>>6402933
When you are starting out even 1 hour feels like torture. Then you get used to the pain and can clock in even like 3 hours in one sitting. Objectives are simple: learn how to draw what you see (BEG) > learn how to construct what you dont see (INT) and then some rendering
>>6402831
The idea you can learn something new in this discipline every day is kinda misleading. You have to grind it out. You should be asking what have we been grinding today so we dont end up like this guy here >>6404187
>forgot almost everything there

>>6404183
thanks anon

>>6404194
Okay. Well I darkened it a bit, bit I'm too lazy to do any more.
(you)

>>6404215
I'm just jabbing you anon, keep practicing.

>>6404190
if what you're focusing on is the foreshortened arm maybe take a look at how the cross sections of the arm look between the wrist and the elbow and the shoulder, then you can kind of overlap those shapes to get a depth effect

>>6404223
Yeah, I see how I can improve it. I won't bother posting the fix, don't want to spam. I moved the thumb line so it's not running into the arm and darkened the outside of the hand.

>>6404201
>so we dont end up like this guy here
fuck off with your discord namefagging and work on your faces, that looks like a ghoul from fallout

>try to do gesture in 5 mintues
>never finish enclosing the body's outline
should i be completing the outline in 5 minutes too or just capturing the orientation and proportions of the body?

>>6404245
Just watch the vilppu videos on YouTube. Start with the proko ones. You will be way better informed in under an hour.

New skull, different reference photo, accidentally posted to the wrong thread earlier

>>6404245
Do a couple of one-minute figures focusing on gesture only at first, then basic shapes. At least for 30 minutes, so 30 figures. Then do some five-minute gestures. Chances are you're going to see some difference right away. If not, keep with this exercise for a couple of days.

When you get used to getting your shapes in order in one minute five minutes will feel like an eternity. You're probably wasting time on details instead of working with whole shapes and that's normal. Keep going!

For getting better at drawing people, should I go with a figure drawing or anatomy for artists book?
And which book would you recommend to start with?

>>6404245
>outline
that's where you're going wrong

>>6404258
Figure drawing first, then anatomy. Figure drawing books will cover some anatomy, but figure drawing is an observation exercise first. You'll feel the need to understand anatomy as you practice. One thing feeds the other.

>>6404266
Would Bridgman be good to start with?

>>6402443
Alrighty. What am I doing wrong fellas? How can I fix and improve this?

How do i get into pixel art? I want to create artwork that looks like VA-11 Hall-A.

>>6404301
you posted this like a month ago

this is my 2nd week drawing what do u guys think? :)

>>6404349
reference img :)

>>6404350
the right side of the head is very flat
its like

| o. o )
V

also csm author sucks at drawing faces, i feel like anything else would be better ref

>>6404319
Based anon. The new Gundamn makes me want to draw mechas

>>6404380
Terrible take. Csm artist is one of the best at drawing faces and expressions. You should read the manga.

Can I have critque of this skull? It is supposed to be from above looking down at the skull. I didn't bother to draw the teeth

is there a good way to practice cylinders/circles in perspective? i wanna draw some stacked halos but the viewpoint is like, 3/4 view and as if you're looking down from about 2 feet above

Any tips on digital rendering/blending without just using smudge/airbrush? I'm pretty good at blocking in values and accuracy, but when I try to get a more finished look, I feel like I can never get smooth value transitions. I blend by just color picking from canvas mostly

Experimented on 3D perspective and shading. What do you all think?

Does this look unsettling/ make you uneasy ?

>>6404425

Foreshortening is off, you need to think more of a tilted box. Brush up your perspective. Otherwise the anatomical landmarks such as the zygomatic arch don't look like that. Do more studies, get ref, work on how to draw things in convincing perspective.

wip

>>6402847
cool indeed

>>6404569
i ain't no bitch so no

>>6404593
forgot picrel..

>>6404349
kawaii

>>6404349
She looks like a girl from some Japanese creepypasta

>>6404604
looks nice anon. curious, what canvas size/brush size do you work with?

I've finally done it. I've reached the final stage of construction where everything looks correct so long as I mind my perspective. The only limit is my imagination. God bless you all.

"For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised."

Hebrews 10:36

>>6404692
Fucking based my man. I'm still a begshitter but it's kinda comfy knowing there's still so much room for growth. I'm trying construction again and thinking in 3d shapes and it's all starting to make a little bit more sense.
ALSO FUCK ANIME

>>6404630
Heh cool concept.
I'm thinking guy who lost his leg and got fat and now wants to get back in shape
War verteran? Factory accident?
The head is too far back though

>>6404630
a lot of weight on that prosthetic, also looks like your highlighted his penis

Posting this here and in the redline general. Crit please

>>6404388
Do you use references? Would you post them? I have a bit of critique on your proportions, but it would be easier to talk about it if I knew where it's coming from.

>>6404569
i am a bitch but no

>>6404766
Yes sir, I'm rereading the anatomy for artist by tomfoxdraws book.

>>6404824
Damn that book looks good!
Do you have a pdf or something?

>>6404828
Sure.
https://mega.nz/file/DNkCmRAQ#0PXYe4tY9vIuktAxWq3_SKrUWIIFfpTmkkXds6zeCl0

>>6404846
Thank you!

>>6404846
Few pages in and I already get called out

>>6404865
good job
the lines aren't wrapping around the forms on the drawings on the top, they are on a different plane
you don't need this amount of lines either

on the bottom right, the lines of the muscles/tendons should lose weight as they disappear, and the outlines should have more weight

>>6404881
They're all from Michael Hamptons book I should've mentioned that
Thanks for the kind words and the advice!
The bottom right one I just went over one of my scratchy ones to see if I could do it without scratching once I had the general form down.

I was trying out ink painting a couple days ago, using some liquitex lamp black. It had real bad flow out of the bottle, and when I watered it down the flow was fine, but the opacity was mediocre. Any reccomendations on brands that have better flow or opacity?

>>6404846
John, haha. Where did you find this one?!

I'm finding out drawing products is so much more painstaking than people, one thing out of proportion and it falls apart.

>>6404874
this art style reminds me of nosebro.

>>6404894

Liquitex is an acrylic based ink. Try using actual indian ink.

>>6404924
Who?

>>6404974
/ic/ shitposter, don't know if he's still around (i just came back for the first time in years myself). He was decent but not exceptional mostly notable for being annoying and riling people up.

>>6405008
Ah ok that explains it I've onbly been here for half a year or something
He could still be here but there's always someone like that around but most don't post their work alongside their shitposts.

>>6404201
based pawell making progress
>>6404215
kekd at the other anon's joke. keep going anon.
>>6404319
nice
>>6404388
i enjoy your studies everytime bro
>>6404568
i think it looks really engaging. personally not a fan of the shading you chose.
>>6404692
how long did it take you?

haven't been posting the last few days, but i have been drawing and experimenting a lot, especially with relating angles in terms of perspective. also been doing timed gesture drawings. does anyone have experience with those wooden mannequins? i'm thinking of getting one so i can study perspective with it.

>>6405030
Cool sharks they look nice
The proportions of the face feel kinda off you use construction often? I think it helps in the beginning for shape relations

Hello beg. Are you feeling the form? Lmao what an "exercise". Still i am happy with how it turned out. Except the dictator. He is off. Oh well.

>>6405030
Have you considered getting blender and simply using 3D models? Might be better than doll which probably wont ever be anatomically correct
>>6404814
thats a very weird style but you practicaly nailed it
>>6404692
Where is the PYW anon??
>>6404630
Nice fatass
>>6404604
cute and coomable
>>6404545
the drawing apps better than GIMP have literally dedicated tools for blending. And in GIMP i am using soft eraser with very high opacity to make "gradients"
>>6404251
the eye sockets and nose hole shouldnt be white. There is still skull wall behind them. You should reflect that in the drawing. And when you are coloring the skull, try following the form (cross contour) with the pen. It always makes the end result better

I'm so fucking sick of how fucking shaky my lines are on digital. I hate this. It's not fun, it pisses me off.

>>6405076 (me)
Maybe I'll get a pen monitor instead, should feel more like paper. Is that what most digital folks use here?

>>6403415
>I'd do a figure drawing course, although the proportions aren't that bad.
Thank you, will try this and post results. Do you know any good books about figure drawing I could lend out from the library?

>>6405082
> pen monitor instead,
>should feel more like paper
> Is that what most digital folks use here?
:D

>>6405121
is that a yes or no doe

>>6405042
thanks. yes, i try to construct as good as i can. it's very difficult for me to get the construction of the little features right.
>>6405062
yes, but supposedly drawing the mannequin helps with perspective (because it's a physical object it's live drawing). and after you did that and basically memorized the mannequin you do real figures with normal proportions.

>>6405076
>>6405082
tape some paper over your tablet

>don't know the anatomy well enough to draw a decent leg
>simply cartoon leg and foot would look lame
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6405208
just learn it?

A drawing of a wolfman OC of mine

>>6403821
finally drew a singular 90 second gesture i like.
well once I hit 10 in a session might just allow myself to go to chapter 2 of hampton

>>6405224
I'm trying, yet I forget these small details so it ends up weird anyway, not to mention the perspective of said leg.
One day I will go mad and start drawing legs like hooves(like that Bleedman guy, if I'm not mistaken) and so on.

>>6404250
so it looks like i was doing gesture + construction instead of just gesture. i watched some proko videos on gesture and gave some 2 minute gesture exercises a go and i am horrified at the results. i've been drawing for about 7 weeks now so i'm used /beg/ drawing but the gesture """""""""""""""""""""""""""drawings""""""""""""""""""""""""""" i am producing are so horrifying and shame inducing that i want to never draw again. i look at how people do it in the videos and it makes perfect sense, and in my head it makes sense too but the second i put my pencil to paper the result is some amorphous blob

>>6403354
More practice

Holy fuck how do I rotate boxes? I can at least "see" the mistake, I'm just drawing the "same" box but further away from an imaginary VP. I'm gonna have to do this a ton before this skill unlocks I presume.

>>6404814
>>6404604
>>6403362
>>6402847
nice
>>6404569
my rod
>>6404329
i think it might be someone else reposting it

>draw for a few hours and it becomes increasingly sloppy until reducing to a preschoolers level of quality
Why does this happen to me?

Should I be colorpicking from the canvas when blending/refining/rendering, or manually adjusting the colors/values with the slider bars?

>>6405300 (me)
sorry about the overly negative message, i've had a really rough week and am failing a course i'm in at my university so just making some poor drawings were enough to make me break down for a while. here's what i mean for 2 minute gesture. i'm trying to go make sure i capture the action but none of the figures look anything remotely good so i don't know if it's a beginner issue or i'm missing the point of it

>>6405334
More shrunken boxes but I think I get it. Maybe one more try with respect to relative perspective and attention to maintain the lines as parallel... Or something

>>6405386
You're focusing on the outlines, gesture is about the overall movement or energy of the pose

>>6405392
i don't understand. i'm watching the proko videos at the beginning of the figure drawing playlist and trying to copy how he does it. he draws curves for the thighs and arms and i'm trying to do the same. am i supposed to be drawing stick figures?

>>6405409
Make sure you can draw like the example he shows at 3:33 before moving on

>>6405300
>>6405386
drawing the figure is very hard and you've only been at it for seven weeks. i like the sitting figure at the bottom and the ones top left.
>>6405392
what this anon said
>he draws curves for the thighs and arms and i'm trying to do the same. am i supposed to be drawing stick figures
no, you gave it your best at your current level and that's pretty good. what's happening here is that your eye is not yet trained to recognize basic shapes, so the result looks flat and the lines appear displaced. if you're having fun drawing gestures, keep doing them. if they frustrate you, focus on something else for a while and return when you feel you can give it another go. the problem is that you are going to have a very hard time figuring out "3d" when you grind gestures day in day out.

give yourself time and focus on basic shapes and exercises. i'd recommend you draw along with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMELt0J2Cno

bros...
how do i avoid ovals when trying to draw circles in perspective? do i really need to draw the grid every time just to get an accurate circle?

>>6405465
>do i really need to draw the grid every time just to get an accurate circle?
You can, Or you can practice it over and over until you become autistic and can just draw accurate circles without it after a few years.

>>6405472
well i guess if this is the best way to do it without a bunch of practice which i'll eventually get anyways that's fine.
thanks anon

>>6405387
this is becoming a clusterfuck
should probably not make the boxes transparent, or draw with a pencil so you can erase overlapping lines

>>6405489
You're on the way to become a permabeg, buddy. Don't fall for the meme, get out of your comfort zone and stop doing pointless studies.

Tips on getting steadier lines and avoiding chicken scratch?

>>6405515
draw with your elbow

is doing timed loomis heads drawing like you would do figure drawing a worthwhile pursuit? Or would I be better off slowly and meticiulousy making all my measurements?

I'm goin insane.

>>6405529
absolutely

different time intervals and levels like

1. Get sphere, plane and semi accurate hair/bow/nose/jaw lines

2. above + place features

3. above + detail

proko essentially does this in his drawing the head series. maybe not explicitly but in the sense that he shows different levels of completeness/quick sketch you can use as a good approximations


As an aside, once you "learn" at a basic level how to draw something, timing yourself drawing as many as possible is almost always a good exercise. learn to draw hand? good now do it over and over to different level of details with different time inetervals

Is being messy a crutch for not being able to show form in clean line art?

>>6405579
Thank you, it seemed like a good practice to do when I am having trouble finding something to draw wanted to make sure it wasnt a time waster

I quite drawing because of the artificial intelligence art what should I do now

>>6405590
post makima on /ic/

>>6405590
k
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maybe

>>6405481
The exercise is designed deliberately for you to study the boxes once they've been rotated. You're supposed to get a "feel" for the perspective changes and not really "need" to see it, but it's also a total beginner's exercise so yeah it's a clusterfuck.

>>6405584
Yes. Chicken scratches and feathering and such are bad habits you should kill early.

>>6404569
I’m a fan of this,
I feel the bottom hands and too hands should be the same color though. Kinda odd for the bottom hands to be so light in comparison.

Just finished coloring this
Any crit is appreciated

I decided to rush this practice drawing that I did for chapter 4A because the paper is gonna rip for erasing too much.

>>6405668
you can basically tell that I skipped foreshortening head. This is a reference

>>6405668
>>6405671
I recommend using better paper so you don't have to worry about it ripping, I've been there. Beside that I honestly recommend using it less and just drawing the "correct lines" over the others should you have made a mistake. Also, patience is key, while copying you can take your time to check the proportions and relations of the shapes you're drawing. For example, the woman's shoulders are about equal in height, but in your copy her left shoulder is lower and the hair isn't in front of it like in your reference. Keep at it and you'll see quick results though!

>>6405694
*using the eraser less

>>6405697
>>6405694
I will try to. I was using newsprint to do some practice sketch and I guess I overdid the erasing. For the shoulders I was really struggling to draw the accurate lines on that part also to the neck or face. I'll try again later if I can manage to be patient on my sketches.

>>6405668
Draw with a pen. It'll force you to think better about your lines.

been drawing for fun all my life without really practicing anything (never sat down and learned fundies) and now i finally decided i wanna go pro
thing is, i'm not really sure where i should start with.i kinda have a style and i can draw you a hand, but i work really slowly and cannot do lineart to save my life (the rightmost one is me trying to carve out the lineart out of the sketch like in the first pic, but it just looked lifeless whereas in my previous attempt it somehow ended up being part of the appeal and i have no idea how). dynamic angles and posing are also the bane of my existence and color theory is something i can comment on after it's already been laid out, but i have a hard time coming up with it if i have nothing to bounce off of. i know i wanna be better, but i'm just kinda lost on what the best way to actually study would be

>>6405832
and this was my attempt at doing lineart the right way. i keep using the basic soft round brush but i find myself having to go over every stroke multiple times to get a solid color and while that works for more painterly stuff i wanna do flatter, more anime-style as well

didn't use a ref for the pose so I'm having so trouble, like how megumins head doesn't really look attached to her body
also can someone tell me how her clothes are suppposed to work? it seems like her ass is at risk of falling out when she's not standing up and relying on gravity to push the dress down

>>6405721
Hann Style? I am not so sure if I can able to finish an art without mistakes....

>>6405832
are you a woman?

>>6405977
no i'm a dude and i like drawing hot men and psycho bitches with their titties out, next question

>>6405937
There will be mistakes. Learn to accept them. You'll get better and in the future there will be less mistakes.

Drawing the same thing more than once in a row makes it dead obvious how much practicing helps you get better, but I still barely draw and get disappointed I'm not better

>>6405660
the brownish highlights kind of look like dirty stains rather than light
the engraving on the chest is pretty cool and the hat is also cool looking, especially with the little blood stains in the mouth
not quite sure what's going on with her left hip if that's supposed to be a dagger or something hard to tell, kind of looks like it's puncturing her thigh and you can't really see the pommel since it's tucked under the belt for some reason
also hard to tell what she's holding, I get it's some kind of sword but you can't really see most of it
not sure what she's resting her right hand on, invisible table?
the torso perspective looks pretty wonky
the earring looks a little misplaced and doesn't actually look made of gold
the hilt on the dagger thing and the belt buckles look more like steel than the actual blade of the sword she's holding, maybe have her resting the blade on her right hand so you have something to do with the other hand rather than have it awkwardly floating there

Beginner. I never draw. Made these years ago, haven't made anything since. Would like unbiased opinion or thoughts.

>>6406307

>>6406310

>>6405660
>>6406293
also it's kind of hard to tell if the lights are on in the house

Am I doin it right

>>6403605
next one made today, trying out new approaches

>>6406338
forgot the pic

>>6406307
>>6406310
>>6406313
Looks pretty cool especially the last one

What's wrong with this? I don't like it but I don't know how to make it better. What do you think?

can someone tell me why it looks so fucked up? I noticed the lips and nose gap is too large and the face seems too small for the head but the shading also looks off for some reason
someone help

>>6406358
Like, it looks good before you open the picture, or if you look at it from a distance. But when you get close to it it's utter shit

>>6406371
heres the reference

>>6406348
Thanks.

>>6406358

>>6406358
I enjoy this art style

>>6406379
Lol it seems like it's my Achilles heel. Thank you

Working through an old tutorial

>>6406395

2/3

>>6406395
>>6406397

3/3

>>6406358
very rough & exaggerated, i know + i know it's different with pencil but try varying your hues and values a bit more. and try making the masses of foliage a bit more uniform when it comes to light and shadow.

>>6406432
in addition study background or landscape paintings and try to see why they work, which values and shades are used for what, how is light and shadow organized and all that, this should really help you get an idea on how to translate a landscape into an appealing work.

>>6406432
ngl that looks like shit and undermines anything you might say.
Not him btw.

>>6406436
>>6406432
Yes. I probably should try working smaller and playing with the pencils. At this rate it's demoralizing to put in so much time and effort and have it look wrong. I'm probably tackling more than I can manage

I mostly focused on upper parts of arms, neck and shoulders as well as chest and stomach and how it connect. I also added shadows just for fun. So what do you think about shoulders and neck? Does it look ok or I'm still missing something?

any website like pexels or pixabay where you can get royalty free images but that doesn't have every image completely destroyed with shitty filters?

>>6406460

Much 2 cents

new thread please

>>6406371
>>6406373
the nose is angled too far to the side and downwards. look at where the tip of the nose is pointing in the picture and in your drawing and how you can see the bottom of the tip

>>6405832
>>6405834
sketch-->lineart is a common thing people have issues with, there's a ton of yt videos on it
from my /beg/ understanding there's multiple possible reasons, but generally your lineart will have less information (like detail, weight, or noise) than your sketch
have you tried drawing directly with a pen tool before? like from reference

any one use watercolor pencils??

Any new thread?

>>6406791
There's no designated OP. You're free to make it, you'll even be given the chance to pick someone's art for the opening thread image!

>>6406727
Yes, but I'm pretty bad.

>>6404569
It requires context I think. It could be. But I don't feel an inhuman horror form the hands alone.

>>6404604
I don't think there is much wrong about it. Would like to see after the whole render is done!

>>6404630
I really like that face and the fattening around it. Bleeding into the rest of the body. I could not defeat him.

>>6404736
The face is a little wide I think, The gesture is okay but the stomach area looks lacking. I'm not good enough at anatomy to confidently redline.

>>6404814
Would buy

>>6405076
Stabilization is your friend. Bigger canvas is your friend.

>>6405121
Are you Pixel Schizo? I recognize these legs...

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Picrel is me getting back into it after a year long break. Wanted to do a profile since I feel like I suck at faces and heads.

>>6407042

new thread