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Do not redeem!!!!

>> No.6398582

>>6398579
Based, they listened
Hope the tech chud who suggested this shit got terminated

>> No.6398583

that's pretty dumb would have loved to at least see what it was about... insecure retards rule the internet....

>> No.6398586

This is equally as stupid as the fags trying to pose AI art off as their own. Now people will look to other products for that tool.

>> No.6398588

good
fuck ai niggers

>> No.6398590

The world is healing. Kill all Alfags.

>> No.6398594

>>6398583
pajeet tears: the post
lmao

>> No.6398596

English response is positive
response in Japan is quite mixed

>> No.6398597
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>>6398579
feels good to know even normalfag artists hate machine learning slop now
been browsing other boards than /ic/ and most anons (many probably non-artists) hate it too, save from generals made exclusively for posting that shit

>> No.6398598

>>6398596
Nips bro are angry their goverment want to ban hentai, so they get mad when oversea bros pressures a Japanese company to put down something.
Little do they know the bankers who want Japan to ban hentai are the same who push AI to control art.

>> No.6398599

>>6398596
japs value civility and manners, don't mistake politeness for tacit agreement

>> No.6398602

>>6398583
There are too many issues with StableDiffusion right now for it to be integrated with products professionals use daily.

Not merely technical issues, but mainly ethical, moral and legal ones.

You can't simply integrate a product trained on a database that contains literally any shit found on the internet like isis beheadings of peace, snuff porn, pizza and tell users it's not your responsibility.

Pajeets though the technology was ready when it simply became capable of copying shit around, but didn't think of a way to give credits, opt out, erase people from the database, or license the shit they stloe from working professionals.

The tech is missing core features that would make it ready for use.

Artist oriented companies associating with StableDiffusion are fucking braindead, that shit is simply not ready for public deployment yet.

>> No.6398604

>>6398583
It was just a vanilla SD generator. No new features. You can do the exact same thing in a browser already so it wasn’t all that useful

>> No.6398605

>>6398583
this, stupid artists ruin everything

>> No.6398607

>>6398579
Based and fuck non-artists

>> No.6398608

good, instead of trying to push this memeware make vectors, wand and bucket tools better so I spend less time retouching flat colors and so on, stop fiddling with your theftware and get to it ni/g/gers

>> No.6398609

>>6398579
holy based. i'm surprised they actually listened

>> No.6398610

AIchads what do we do now?

>> No.6398613

>>6398610
We continued spamming, they'll acknowledge us and give us validation eventually

>> No.6398618

shit i wanted this since i'm a amd cuck gpu

>> No.6398622

>>6398618
Just download SD, no neet to integrate in every software.

>> No.6398623

>>6398610
Suck my cock

>> No.6398625

>>6398602
I can see Paypal and MasterCard pressured these company to apply AI.
AI fag simply don't pay subs when there are ton of free ones in the internet. The only explain here is Jews try to link digital artist with AI so they can profit/copystrike anytime they want.

>> No.6398626

>>6398622
what do you mean just download SD

isnt you have deep shit into coding everytime you wanna generate a picture ? also img2img doesnt work

>> No.6398629

>>6398579
Good. I was about to stop using CSP over that garbage.

>> No.6398633

huh. heard celsys was already dealing with financial troubles, hope they don't go completely broke over this. i do like the brush engine and user materials.
chances are, it wouldn't have been that useful anyway.

>> No.6398635

>>6398610
keep pushing that ai is just a tool

>> No.6398677

>>6398626
just use one of the billions free generators online that also have img2img

t. hates the current state of AI but worked with it enough to understand it.

>> No.6398715

>>6398618
Just go to mage.space, does the exact same thing as Celsys CSP integration would do. No need to install or register.

>> No.6398721

They just realized that ai fags have never used or will ever use a drawing program in their lives

>> No.6398733

>>6398579

Too many insecure faggots who think there deviant art sonic OC will ever be more than a negative prompt.

I despise AI artists who pass it as authentic but its a time saving tool that could've been good to have in app.

>> No.6398777

>>6398733
too many companies work with CSP at scale.

implementing StableDiffusion on it at the current state is a fucking legal/ethical bomb to anyone working professionally.

as said millions of times, the risks are much greater than the potential benefits you can get anywhere else.

>> No.6398792

>>6398602
>You can't simply integrate a product trained on a database that contains literally any shit found on the internet
This seems to be the main issue and is possibly why Adobe is against it. The more info the AI has, the better quality of said image. But most of these AI applications tend to grab resources from literally EVERYWHERE (like examples of what you posted).
Though, it'll be funny to hear about little jimmy learning to draw, types in a prompt, and one of the results is an image of some car accident with someone's head ripped off along side some beautiful scenery.

>> No.6398812

Just copy and paste this shit from a generator into the background if you want. I don't know why this AI shit has to be "integrated" into everthing.

>> No.6398816

>>6398583
Nothing is stopping you from using stable you retard

>> No.6398833

>>6398792
This is why I say AI tech is not ready for public use, if you need fucking 5 billion images you don't own, taken from anywhere to the OCs of autists on deviantart, to private photos of boomers on facebook, the vaginas of old ladies on medical records, or corpses from your loved ones, to make that shit work, then it would be better to develop the tech enough so the model could be trained on a thousand of image sets instead, all of them bought and licensed and credited.

again, it's absolutely unbelievable people are shilling for the right of fucking billionaire companies to take PRIVATE data from individuals without consent laundering that shit for profit, literally you will own nothing (not even your own fucking artwork), and you will be miserable.

>>6398812
This, there is absolutely no reason to associate with that shit officially like the absolute retards at DeviantArt did, if you want to use this fucked up nigger ass stolen data AI do it, paste it into the canvas and don't make it a part of the fucking program.

>> No.6398842

>>6398579
clip studio already has 3d tracing filter so why is this a problem
subhumans dont have the ability to create so why not let them play with AI

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6398853

>>6398579

good.

meanwhile... something new pop up.

Prompt making is now officially automated.

Also

Stable Diffusion the open source AI has released a clean version of their trained models and use is complaining because they couldn't get the result they want.

BUT

pajeet said they're in progress making a tool that allows user to train their own images faster and cheaper. This will take any lawsuit claims and responsibilities from the company. Anything happens it's the users fault.

Get ready for the flood of fuckhead blatantly stealing artist work just to piss them off.

>> No.6398857

>>6398853
This shit was automated from day 0, not only you could paste any random sentence to get result into the generator. You could just use AIdungeon or whatever to do it automatically.

>> No.6398881

>>6398853
>This will take any lawsuit claims and responsibilities from the company. Anything happens it's the users fault.
Not possible especially being in possession with illegal data

The question is do the feds care?

>> No.6398884

>>6398853
phew, thank god I'm not an interior designer

>> No.6398888

>>6398853
um sweatie, I prompt anime gurlz. this has nothing on me. ;3

>> No.6398934

>>6398579
awesome. now if they would just listen to us about that pesky subscription thing they are doing.

>> No.6398935

>>6398853
>it's the bomb maker's fault for building a nuclear bomb, not the guy who leaked the intel on how to make one!
Is this pajeet serious?

>> No.6398942

>>6398604
But it saved you time saving the image and opening it back up in csp. Think about all those seconds saved.

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6398969

>>6398579
>3d models
I sleep.
>Photobashing
I sleep.
>Copying and tracing
I sleep.
>Utilizing A.I as a tool that enables anyone to explore their creativity
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T THAT'S CHEATING
I like how clip studio put a point of emphasis on "creating a new creative experience" it's too bad butthurt artcels do not allow the next guy to be creative for reasons only an artchud understands. Cry more bitches there are already several dedicated communities training the .Ai and even making names of themselves.

>> No.6398976

>>6398969
But why does your art still look as crap as ever mikuturd?

>> No.6398977

>>6398969
AI-sama fucked my pussy (^_^ )~ heehee~ uhhh~

>> No.6398983

>>6398969
>3d models
I sleep.
>Photobashing
I sleep.
>Copying and tracing
I sleep.
???

>> No.6398990

What would have been for Clip Studio if it weren't for crybabies
>>>>/pol/406797368

>> No.6398997

>>6398969
>3d models
degenerate hacks
>Photobashing
degenerate hacks
>Copying and tracing
degenerate hacks
>AI
degenerate hacks

>> No.6399141

>>6398583
shouldn't you be drawing feral porn for that one trash thread.

>> No.6399151
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6399151

AIshitters are literal nodraws why did anyone for one second think anyone could sell an art program to them

>> No.6399161

>>6399151
That's what always bothered me.
Photoshop makes sense because they always viewed themselves as a photo manipulation program first and a painting program 2nd.
CSP has been about and for 2d art from the get-go which means the amount of interest in having the program do most of the work for you would be far, far less.
They probably got high off their own farts due to being programmers and forgot to actually consult an artist.

>> No.6399186

Why do artists hate art so much

>> No.6399196

>>6398969
stop being so smug about your strawmen

>> No.6399345

>>6398853
>I asked textbot to give me prompt, which I gave to Midjurney, get fucked promptlets!!!!
Not a promptlet myself, but Midjurney is already prompt automated itself. Stable Diffusion is the one requiring you to learn the skill for weeks. Midjurney is kind if insane that you can just write there random string of words and it will give you cohesive picture every single time, so I am not surprised that the brainlet in pic related thinks chatbots give better prompts

>>6398881
>Do feds care?
Feds are little bit slow bunch and not the brightest bunch, but they should care. Paintings are not worth anything, so 2D image generators have no way of causing actual damage, but Video AI, Music AI and then some full product generators will have big problems. Creative fields account for fuckton of employment, fuckton of revenue and good portion of US GDP. More developed nations (US allies) have higher portion of their GDP originate from creative industry. Movies cost lot of money to make and US economy is giving tax credits to studios who use US workforce and US manufacturers to build their stuff. When everyone starts generating their own movies at home, US will lose massive chunk of their global exports to the world and have a loss in overall GDP. Also, most celebrities around the globe are famous artists, who mostly consist of rich people that actually pay taxes, unlike shareholders and CEOs. By automating art, you are basically removing big chunk of the economy, as well as have force that brings people together in groups and can generate collective unity, or outrage and tribalism.
Also, the reason this stuff gets build in first place is because of China also making AIs, so the US is racing with them, but it is a brinching field, so feds should be interested WHY are techbros wasting their resources automating media to be personal for everyone instead of, you know, automating something useful that gives US edge over China?

>> No.6399357

>>6398969
1) AI is creative for you, you have too little control over it, it is like taking photos of nature and saying how creative you are with your camera. Yes, you had to make up the prompts, but they are still just suggestions to the AI.
2) Its not like Stable Diffusion, Midjurney or NovelAI are not existing, why do you need another image generator in your photoshop knockoff? Just copy the picture and paste it into ClipArt. The AI probably has 8+ Gigs, so thats just more bloat on a program made for drawing.

>> No.6399375

>>6398969
>Utilizing A.I as a tool that enables anyone to explore their creativity
>explore their creativity
and what the fuck does that even mean?
if you just want to "explore your creativity", you have your mind for that
dont tell me, you cant actually visualize complex problems?

>> No.6399381

>>6399375
digital artists in shambles
physicalchads fuck their women

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6399382

>>6398969
Unfathomably based

>> No.6399386

>>6398579
>terrible text tool
>they prioritize bloated software crap instead

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6399423

>AI' will never have any so-ACK ACK ACK!

>> No.6399451

>>6398596
The japanese posts wishing they implemented it are from consoomer profiles that don't actually draw but just post gacha or anime screenshots.

>> No.6399486

>>6399423
heh. can you be seething harder?

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6399492

>>6398583
Diksheet, I am going to add toilets to all my paintings of anime girls floating in voids and there is nothing you can poo to stop me

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>>6398969
>>3d models
>I sleep.
>>Photobashing
>I sleep.
>>Copying and tracing
>I sleep.
>>Utilizing A.I as a tool that enables anyone to explore their creativity
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T THAT'S CHEATING
>I like how clip studio put a point of emphasis on "creating a new creative experience" it's too bad butthurt artcels do not allow the next guy to be creative for reasons only an artchud understands. Cry more bitches there are already several dedicated communities training the .Ai and even making names of themselves.

>> No.6399625

>>6399492
Stop Bigu teku? Based

>> No.6399644

>>6398976
Qrd on this Mikufag lore

>> No.6399686

>>6399492
based

>> No.6399709

>>6398613
> samefagging rajesh

>> No.6399717

>>6399161
They are pressured by bankers

>> No.6399877

>>6398583
Go back to /g/ pajeet. Bring along rajeesh and muthu with you.

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6399899

>>6398583
SPBP

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6399909

>>6399486
>heh. can you be seething harder?

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6399930

>>6398597
What is this meme
AI art portraits are literally the new trend

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6399932

>>>heh. can you be seething harder?

>> No.6399934

>>6399930
That would be great if people just started using this piece of shit of this and ultra realistic stuff.

>> No.6399938

>>6399930
The prompters are finished. The normies don't need them anymore.

>> No.6399969

>>6398596
>response in Japan is quite mixed

Not really, most Jap artists hate AI too, the ones that are angry about it aren't really artists, and they profit from AI on Fanbox, Fantia, etc.

>> No.6399971

>>6399969
What is the advantage of using SD inside CSP?

>> No.6399999

I looked on Twitter and indeed there are many japaneses not happy that Stable Diffusion isn’t coming to CSP. Most of them aren’t artists and some are even shareholders, but couldn’t see a single actual artist wishing this.

I never thought that even in Japan the envy and hatred towards artists is so big, I always thought they valued hard working instead of going the easy way. Most of them said: “So they think their art is more valuable because of their hard work? If Celsys gonna side with those people with their old traditions, I’m selling my shares”

>> No.6400001

>>6399999
This is why Japan is way ahead than Trannymerica

>> No.6400005

>>6399999
>saying I'm going to sell my shares via Twitter
That's an impotent larping Japwagie rant if I've ever heard one

>> No.6400011

>>6399999
nip animators are one of the most exploited and underpaid

>> No.6400016

>>6399999
Pajeet can use google translate, you must be new.
There are a reason they call an artist "sensei".

>> No.6400021

>>6400005
This guy, @o_ob, is super angry about it.

>> No.6400026

>>6400016
I’m not defending AI, I’m actually amazed there are so many japaneses in favor of it. They literally don’t care about their own artists.

>> No.6400046

>>6400026
Chink and gooks have studied Japanese and harassed nips to suicide for fun since the start of social media. Pajeet can do the same.
Also there are woke shit like that Vice reporters in Japan who want to destroy Japanese cultures.

>> No.6400073

>>6399999
Well of course. There are morons belonging to every nation.

>> No.6400080

>>6398969
>even making names of themselves
Yeah people know them as pajeet

>> No.6400085

>>6399969
Basically only grifters. Chinks produces quite a number of grifters too. Why do you think the only biggest talkingheads in the cryptosphere left standing now are the reject exports from the great chink motherland?

>> No.6400097

>>6399999
Nice pents.

>> No.6400098

>>6399999
That smells like Tupsy turby revisionism

>> No.6400102

>>6399969
It was a gradual thing.
https://twitter.com/GoriliveSP/status/1581543533668077569

>> No.6400107

>>6398598
>Little do they know the bankers who want Japan to ban hentai are the same who push AI to control art.
I'm honestly starting to think the schizo who argues that image generation is an attempt at making a gateway to copyrighting art styles, presumably by tying them to certain models, is on to something.

>> No.6400161

>>6398579
Is there a target store near you, Miss?

>> No.6400168

>>6399999
>but couldn’t see a single actual artist wishing this.
If artist do say they want it there are people who will try to sabotage and cancel them.

>> No.6400267

>>6398582
It was forced on them by the metaverse standard forum who are the techie brand of the WEF so it will happen. They just need to wait till CelSys CEO commits suicide by two shots to the back of the head.

>> No.6400272

>>6400168
yes, that must be the source of all the hatred against AI...

>> No.6400274

>>6398733
>its a time saving tool that could've been good to have in app
The problem is it's not.
Like everyone else has said, it's libraries need to be thoroughly curated before they can be of any use.
Everything it pulls from needs to be licensed or public domain. And all the creepy shit like medical records, police records, cheese pizza and guro needs to be dropped before someone gets sued for passing illegal shit in a mainstream product and the whole technology gets banned.

>> No.6400277

>>6400274
Lets hope. I really want you to be right, it makes sense and it would be delicious, but the world is so dirty that I dont know what to believe in.

>> No.6400278

>>6398969
Nigger nobody real working artist gives a shit about the tool. There's nothing I want more than instantly generating random forests for my 200000th "elf in a forest" commission. But when those fucking forests contain pixels of prepub pussy, and the rendering looks so ripped off if I put it online the google image search tells me it's a Sakimichan picture. It's worthless.

All they need to do is erase the databases they've used and restart the thing with stock images. It'll do nearly the same, most likely be more granular, and not get anyone in trouble or violate people's privacy and intellectual property.

>> No.6400280

>>6399423
Can't even respect the pose or the angle of the cabin.
This shit may be useful in 30 years.

>> No.6400281

>>6399938
As always the people who most fervently support a revolution are the first to get executed when "they" win.

>> No.6400292

>>6398733

I don't see any use for it other than for maybe getting ideas. Anyone who can draw or paint wouldn't use it for anything else.

I don't see how it would speed up or help in art making process. I only see it as a nuisance really. I can already do what it can do. Even if it can do it faster. When you think of it, the AI is the fast one. Not the user, thinking of prompts, editing it, generating images, sifting through the generation to find that one good image. Is a fucking waste of time and feels like you're doing menial job. Something like a soul crushing data entry work.

Not to mention the end result barely be my own. I barely have any part of the creative process.

Which the most important part to an artist.

My own conscious decision.

My own mistakes.
Good or Bad. It's my Art.

>> No.6400303

>>6400292
careful anon, you are going to mindbreak some talentless proompter with such an opinion
>b-but proompting takes skill, i had to feed the bot the right words, prompting is an art form,...

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>>6399999
Anon, you just need to check quote tweets instead of replies, you literally can see shitton of japanese name with their comiket name complaining.
Most of them did commercial work with clip and they don't want to be associated with something that infringes copyright
It's not about hating SD or AI, the main problem is about stealing and copyright. Imagine a case like this
>artist do commercial illustration for big company
>said artist can't do background
>generate background from AI
>submit the illustration and it goes public
>there's a very tiny watermark on the rock, only can be seen if zoomed out
>some autist accidentally find it
>artist and game company name reputation hits the rock

>> No.6400328

>>6400278
At this point is has near to zero advantages compared to going to google and picking off the first forest background I find, because at least I know the source of the thing I am taking from.

>> No.6400386

>>6399930
I was in one of the world cup stickies at /sp/ and there was this retard posting AI slop and probably getting off with the >kys replies when out of nowhere, enter /beg/chad and posts some anime girl he'd drawn
>I know it's way worse in quality
>but it was drawn with heart
the amount of positive replies he got completely shut down the AInsect, who was never to be seen again. it was great

>> No.6400428

>>6400386
And then everyone clapped

>> No.6400445

>>6400428
cope and seethe
>>>/sp/126206209

>> No.6400463

>>6400445
>the amount of positive replies he got completely shut down the AInsect, who was never to be seen again. it was great
This is the part after everyone clapped if it wasn't obvious enough

>> No.6400470

>>6400445
Kino

>> No.6400542

>>6400463
I'm not making shit up. He unironically stopped posting after that

>> No.6400558

>>6400542
Sure but that way of thinking is juvenile. You don't know why he stopped posting.

>> No.6400562

>>6400445
based

>> No.6400568

I find it really funny that a lot of dystopian speculators expected Japs, Chinks, Jews and even gulf Arabs to become the bad guys and now we're going at full throttle to the dystopia they turned out to be Pajeets

>> No.6400633

>>6400542
Maybe that's why he came and flood this board instead.

>> No.6400640

>>6400445
Wtf that is so much worse than the AI post, even the linework is inferior, and I really doubt he’ll reach the rendering level of AI

>> No.6400642

>>6400568
I dont get the /ic/ fixation with Indians. Two CEOs out of many AI companies happen to be Indian(Emad and Google). If anything Indians are getting even shorter end of the stick since most of them work as bottom tier tech support and tech service, something that is already being automated. Programmers are not going anywhere anytime soon, but the copilot and other text generating AIs will be replacing the intern-level stuff by just giving the better programmers tools to replace their teams of loser coders. Be prepared to have chatbots scam you on videocalls instead of Indians, or be your tech support.

>> No.6400649

>>6400445
ahahaha bunch of retards giving other retard a consolation prize, that’s genuinely like a mother petting an autistic child and being like “yes sweetie you are the smartest”

>> No.6400655

>>6400640
Yeah, he is not a professional and AI can do female body shapes pretty well. Does not change the fact that the anon is artist. A shitty artist, but still an artist with more respect then prompter, because art out of all the things in human society is valued more by the process of its creation then by the end result. This is why shit art made by famous artist sells, this is why inferior trad artpiece has more value then jpg printed on a sheet of paper.
This is the reason why people said and keep saying you cant automate art, not because machines are incapable of drawing, but because art is in the human creation. Art is the embodiment of the human spirit, if art as a whole loses to automation, then it is writing on the wall that soon all of humanity will lose to machines. This is also why people see AI art advocates as monsters, because in a way you are kind of a antichrist bringing the end of the world upon us with blind technofetishism.

>> No.6400663

>>6400655
You realise on internet you can lie right?
The first dude could try some more to get a better result, run it through AI again to stylise it, and say he drew it, most normies can’t tell between AI with hypernetworks/stylized and “real” art. That’s in my opinion the sanest use of AI, use it and make it unrecognisable and then say you drew it, otherwise you are just a retard

>> No.6400674

>>6400640
>>6400649
a /beg/ drawing is still better than not drawing at all
give an AI nigger a pencil and a paper or a drawing tablet and I doubt they could ever pull off something close to that

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6400678

>>6400640
>>6400655
haha....

>> No.6400682

>>6400678
Cherrypicking works both ways y’know

>> No.6400683

>>6400678
but both of those are AI

>> No.6400687

>>6400682
Now say it without crying

>> No.6400689

>>6400678
i-it's that a h-hand?!? WITH 5 FINGERS?!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HELP ME EMAD-SAMAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.6400691

>>6400687
Nice cope, got any more?

>> No.6400695

>>6400689
AIBROSSSSSSSS THEY'RE LAUGHING AT US

>> No.6400698
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6400698

>>6400445
Everyone replying to the drawfag was clearly being ironic.

>> No.6400712

>>6400698
must be sad dedicating a decade of your life and never getting as much appreciation, mikuturd.

>> No.6400716
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6400716

>>6400649
>This anon got totally jelaous because one scribble got attention and based replies
Anon, if you're prompting to seek attention, you are totally NGMI. This is coming from fellow prompter

>> No.6400719

>>6400716
but why would the anon get jealous over that? post images on pixiv like once every two weeks without tagging them as ai and claim as your own and you’ll easily get more attention than that, while spending even less time on it than the scribble dude

>> No.6400760

A free feature, shot down by retards.
OR PERHAPS Celsys rembered they were going to give it for free to oldfags eligible to 2.0, and then decided to play 4D chess marketing.

>> No.6400772
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6400772

>>6400719
His reply reeks of jelaousy and pixiv attention felt hollow once it's past your 20th post and become consistent ranker because the audience never engage with your images aside from bookmarks and there's no satisfaction or benefit other than numbers go up. That's when i realize it's better to just prompt for myself
Not tagging as AI is even more stupid because you really need to get in AI ranking if you want that attention or fanbox supporters

>> No.6400774

>>6400760
>A free feature, shot down by retards
That is precisely what has happened here and the irony is these same people who are complaining also pirate videos, textbooks, and other software for free.

>> No.6400915

>>6398613
>>6398610
>>6398605
>>6398583
>>6399899
>>6398969
sweet pajeet/rdrama tears...
gets me harder than any pill would

>> No.6400918

>>6400760
>>6400774
> I love bloated crap in my software!

>> No.6400938

>>6400918
>Complains about bloat
>Hoards brushes and textures which he never ever uses

>> No.6400942

>>6400760
Isn't SD still free?

>> No.6401046
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6401046

>>6400938
nta, but why the reach? You're just making up assumptions. CSP is known to be bloated as fuck (just look at coloring AI tool introduced years ago that literally no one uses because it looks like shit) and already has a LOT of issues with performance that other softwares don't have.

There is 0 need for that addon, you can just download SD and roll with it instead. Why are you so mad about it, pajeet-kun?

>> No.6401076

>>6401046
It's the principles about how a group of a loud minority may affect everyone else for a reason which boils down to OC do not steal.

>> No.6401146

>>6401076
>a loud minority
a loud majority

ftfy

>> No.6401157

>>6400272
No you don't hear your fellow artist speak up for AI generated images because those artists don't want to have to deal with idiots like you raging at them.

>> No.6401160

>>6398579
Actually based

Fuck AI art and all the lazy assholes that use it instead of picking up a fucking pencil and paper

>> No.6401162

>>6401146
No, you are among a minority of complainers while the majority are excited to see what the Ai- is capable of.

>> No.6401173

>>6401162
You gaslight like the troons on /pol/.

>> No.6401176

>>6401162
indian gpt-3 bots are not the majority, pajeet.

>> No.6401285

>>6401162
It's literally StableDiffusion, what is there to be excited about. They could have trained (probably) the first ethical AI model that could be an actual help for artists, but no

>> No.6401297

>>6401162
>majority are excited to see what the Ai- is capable of
You AIfags really like to post obvious lies.
And you shills spent months saying " its free open software, so we can't be shills" yet you get upset when people don't want it implemented or paid for.

>> No.6401312

>>6401285
>>6400942
This.

>> No.6401316

>>6401297
It's funny because the belief that open-source means nobody can make money from it is a massively retarded understanding. Probably the same type of people who think people who run not-for-profits don't make money.

>> No.6401336

>>6401162
Fuck off pajeet and fuck all your AI spams too. Fucking loser

>> No.6401357

ai niggers are just pissy csp listened to people that actually use their software for once

>> No.6401370

>>6400772
Who the fuck pays for AI fanbox? NFTtards?

>> No.6401371

>>6401370
People do, believe me, it's retarted but they do.

>> No.6401514
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6401514

>>6401162
Just like what cryptobros are excited on how NFT is capable of and how NFT will affect and support artists on with it's ownership right?

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6401521

>>6401514
Right, just like how pebblethrow made several hundreds of thousands of dollars enough to be life changing money thanks to the NFT's he was able to create and sell.

>> No.6401565

>>6400719
You're not helping your medium gain respect by lying about your work.

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>>6401521
he made that money from ppl who wanted to own teh libs, not because it was NFT, he ain't pushing that anymore

>> No.6401604

>>6401600
>keeps vacillating between shitting on AI and supporting it, because as an artist he probably dislikes it, but as a C-list political eceleb he is afraid of upsetting the branch of his audience who think that AI art is owning the trannies
Cringe

>> No.6401605

>>6401604
he probably like it and makes CP on pixiv

>> No.6401674 [DELETED] 
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6401674

>>6401600
>ironic

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6401676

>>6401600
>that pic
ironic

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6401775

he tried to warn you all

>> No.6401825

>>6400938
>optional brushes vs glorified filter forced on you
Do you eat lead paint chips by any chance?

>> No.6402092

>>6401775
>Use Photoshop and other digital paint tools to create your artwork
>Didn't realize it would bite you back
Should've gatekeep your profession back to pencil-and-paper at the bare minimum.

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6402217

>>6401600
amogus

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6402233

>>6398610
>>6398613
>>6398635

>> No.6402258

>>6402233
that is an abject amount of cope and bad faith

>> No.6402259

>Pajeet Shadman

>> No.6402284

>>6402233
Holy mother of bad faith arguments, Niggas have to play dumb to be able to defend this shit.

There is no chance they are trying to compare a single artist being inspired by artworks, to a software that can scan billions of images and shit out thousands of copies of them in minutes

>> No.6402288

>>6402284
Just because its better and more efficient at doing it than humans doesnt make it more unethical lmfao

>> No.6402294

>>6402288
Stolen database you dumb motherfucker.

Pajeets are stealing the private data of people to fuel image gen AI, consent to see a picture is not consent to reproduce, copy or monetize it you dumb fuck.

Monetizing the images of people (their faces, bodies and artwork) without their explicit consent is the definition of unethical and ilegal.

>> No.6402342

>>6402233
Despite this concept of a machine learning like a human is objectively wrong, that’s what everyone thinks, the general public is indeed pro AI.

AI does not store bitmap information, but as a computer, it can analyze and perfectly reproduce patterns by memorizing it through noise and denoising images, AI does not understand what those images mean, but it effectively store that info associated to a certain tag. When you prompt, AI searches through all stored patterns of that tag and uses a reconstruction algorithm to transform noise into those stored patterns. Since it’s noise, it can be easily merged in become impossible to recognize, but if you request an image close enough to an already existing one used as training, AI can pretty much reproduce it because AI doesn’t assimilate concepts and understand concepts, it simply store patterns, measurements between dots.

>> No.6402350

>>6402342
Can you delete this anti-semitic remark?

>> No.6402376

>>6399151
aishitters are shilling every art community and community to stir up interest into the technology so big companies could buy their tech. the people in charge of those companies look at the fake discussion and the idea of this being "the future" that they naturally want to adopt it if its being talked about.
Its fooled deviantart, CSP, and even a lot of industry vets who don't want to be thought as the oldman like nfts

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>>6402376
You could've been right if the technology wasn't freely available and actually pretty impressive

>> No.6402393

>>6402376
We just neeed enough people kicking them out, really loudly.

Fuck me cancel culture sucks but at least let's use it for something useful for once and getekeep the fuckers out.

>> No.6402403

>>6402393
lol unironically using cancel culture in 2022... brainlet

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6402406

>>6402376
>DA
>fooled

>> No.6402468

>>6402403
we should use gatekeeping as much as possible.

it's great seeing AI fags crying over social media about how abused they are and how mean artists are to them.

there was one that made a video demanding respect that is nothing but fucking hilarious.

like nigga, grab a pencil, niga learn to draw.

>> No.6402471

>tell a program to generate text
Oh, I didn't write this, an AI did.
>tell a program to generate code
Oh, I didn't program this, an AI did.
>tell a program to generate music
Oh, I didn't compose this, an AI did.
>tell a program to generate art
Wow, I'm such a great artist, look at what I made!

Can someone explain this to me?

>> No.6402480

>>6402471
Yes, in every instance it was made by you using an AI tool, but it wasn't written,coded,played or drawn by you.

>> No.6402489

>>6402471
people nowadays feel entitled to art for some reason

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6402499

>>6398579
ITT: copes and seethes
AI is only gonna get cheaper and cheaper resource-wise. A few years from now, the average is going to come with image and video generators. There's literally nothing you can do to stop scientific progress. NOTHING.

>> No.6402501

>>6402499
>the average
The average smartphone*

>> No.6402509

>>6402499
You will always be unskilled.
You will always be poor.
You will always be a wagie.
Cope

>> No.6402513

>>6402509
>You will always be unskilled.
show me your work, and show you mine.

>> No.6402535

>>6402480
Is your a phone a tool to cook pizza? I mean, you can use it to be delivered one, you can even choose the flavors, you must be the cooker, right?

Do you want to use AI to do something for you? Use it, that's something technology granted you, but instead of being rational and understanding machines evolved to the point of being able to do things for you, it seems you just want to pretend you're an artist, that you're literally painting those images. No, you are simply requesting it and that is the whole point of AI for art, don't you get it?

We are past the time of using tools, AI is about autonomous servants, they will literally do the whole thing for us. Is it a good or a bad thing? I don't know, probably, bad in the long run, but that won't stop people from developing it even further.

Accept it, both artists and AI shilsl, this technology replaces the artists completely, you are NOT an artist because you use it, also it is NOT a tool, it is an automated solution and you're an user. If you make models and train your AI, you're engeneering and the result is a program that can emulate what an artist would do.

You want progress? Aceept progress instead of playing this novelty, otherwise you're just some frustrated piece of shit that is jealous of artists.

>> No.6402537

>>6402535
It's impressive how you can spot this anon in every thread.

>> No.6402541

>>6402342
>general public is indeed pro AI
really?

>> No.6402542

>>6402535
I'm not reading all that, sorry that happened to you or whatever. You asked for an explanation and I gave you one.

>> No.6402545

>>6402537
Guy is some freaking schizo, but he is not wrong. AI art is art, but using it doesn't make you an artist.

>> No.6402548

>>6402499
Rajcoomar, I am going to add toilets to all my paintings of anime girls floating in voids and there is nothing you can poo to stop me

>> No.6402549

>>6402542
He sounds pretty much pro AI, but says you should embrace technology and how it works by doing the art for you and that by using it, you don’t automatically become an artist.

>> No.6402551

>>6402549
Okay, thanks for the summary.

>> No.6402558

>>6402542
I wrote the big text and I'm not the one that asked an explanation.

You did not explain about magically becoming an artist instead of an operator/user. Your post just said the obvious, that AI is going to evolve and eventually replace people.

>> No.6402563

>>6402558
I just said it was made by you, not that it makes you an artist.

>> No.6402565

>>6402294
>Stolen database
Tell me you don't understand how this works without telling me

>> No.6402567

>>6402563
That is true, I agree with you.

>> No.6402573

Turn it around artfags, if the output of the algorithms is "stolen art" then it should be pretty trivial to re-create one of the training images. Show me one. Shouldn't take long, right?

>> No.6402581

>>6402565
thinking that you don't need the consent of artists to use their works is why this AI shit will not be accepted in the art communities.

maybe with the NFT and crypto bros, that's where this shit belongs.

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>>6402573

>> No.6402596
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6402596

>>6402573
>calling us artfags
>on the art board
Paid shills detailing the thread. Can’t stop reeing at their loss

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>>6402573
More

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more

>> No.6402600
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6402600

Stupid AI simps. You can’t reason with them

>> No.6402685

>>6402596
>>6402598
>>6402599
>more img2img faleflags
Haven't we already gone over this troon?

>> No.6402704

>>6402384
deviant art and csp have to pay someone

and although its "free", not many people have the set up to really run these ais. instead you have people trying to make prompting a monthly subscription for cloud computing

>> No.6402705

>>6402471
its shilling

>> No.6402720

>>6402704
Not for the AI, just the infrastructure to run it.

>> No.6402770

>>6402720
No, you're donating money out of the goodness of your heart so the people running it can buy child sexworkers. The infrastructure and AI are free gifts to show their appreciation.

>> No.6402780

>>6398579
This is just a beginning.

>> No.6402811

>>6402685
Sure schizo

>> No.6403025

Just read Nijijourney ToS
Basically your prompt belong to public, anyone can use it. If you happen to produce a copyright materials, you will take all responsibility.
You can be an exclusive user if you pay 600$ monthz exclusive users have all the images they claim as their given the exclusive right to use those images by Nijijourney. Once uou cancel your dubs, you lost that right.
Here is funny thing, any corpo can claim exclusive use on any public prompt if no other exclusive user claim it before.
Not only proomters do the job of stealing for pajeet for free, have all their prompts cucked by corpo they will take all responsibility if they generate copyrighted materials.
Cuckest of cuck

>> No.6403041

>>6403025
yikes, that's like 12 different layers of basic bitch slave.
imagine using A-I

>> No.6403052

>>6403025
>Basically your prompt belong to public, anyone can use it. If you happen to produce a copyright materials, you will take all responsibility.
Why is it the responsibility of the "user" and not the merchant who takes the model without due diligence for copyrighted/illegal content to make profits? It sounds like a legal precedent needs to happen or the long noses take everything.

>> No.6403056

>>6398635
>keep pushing that ai is just a tool
AI is just a tool.

>> No.6403067

>>6403025
>artists are moneygrubbing gatekeepers, this will democratize art
>AIfags:

>> No.6403086

>>6403052
Why is Paypal can take from you 2500$ if they don't like you? The same answer: the bankers behind them have the power to do it.

>> No.6403156

>>6403025
only artist are stupid enough to pay for midjouney
anyone with half a brain cell can us SD

>> No.6403162

>>6403156
Sirs

>> No.6403204

>>6403156
>Earlier this year, the US Copyright Office ruled against awarding copyrights to AI systems themselves. “The courts have been consistent in finding that non-human expression is ineligible for copyright protection,” the Office reasoned in February, citing previous cases involving attempts to copyright based on “divine inspiration,” as well as that time someone tried to secure copyright protection for a monkey selfie.
At least, if you live in the US, you can safely use arts from other prompter for your own use. They can't sue you. TOS just trick you to believe you can own the generated image. They only have the right to block your account.

>> No.6403225

>>6403204
It just sucks that you can't see all of Midjourney's stuff unless you pay. At least SD prompters love to share their crap

>> No.6403248

>>6402376
The WEF is pushing this through the metaverse standards forum.
You will not own your art.

>> No.6403254

>>6402499
It took from 1994 to 2022 for this shit to become available to the public and it's still only viable for the 1% of PC users.

Consumer grade smartphones and laptops will not be able to run decent AI apps without frying for at least five years. And by then it'll surely be completely controlled by a couple of big tech companies so you won't be allowed to prompt for free.

>> No.6403259

>>6402565
So the NYPD consented to have photos of cp and murder victims from their archives show up?
Hospitals consented to have photos from medical records be used?

kys, everyone knows this is unethical and that's the one and only issue. Erase the current apps and replace them with databases that use exclusively licensed media and 90% of the backlash is gone.

>> No.6403260

>>6403225
I don't need to see those shit. In my eyes they are a soulless mess.
What I mean is you are free to use every single "AI art" out there without spending time prompting. It don't belong to prompter nor the AI companies like they claimed.
I didn't care about "AI art". But they keep harassing real artist with their bullshit and downgrade art by forcing their plagiarism tool unto art space, that made me to research about the legal issue behind it.

>> No.6403286

>>6399930

Just another filter... normies loves this shit.

>> No.6403427

>>6402541
>general public is indeed pro AI
Everyone is now an artist. Everyone is now a writer. Everyone is now a coder, etc etc. AI is making some of the well-known professions rendered accessible to the general public, but it's still a novelty considering not everyone has the tech to access it.

>> No.6403433

>>6403286
Yeah kind of reminds me of teenagers in the 2000's discovering the sepia filter and convincing themselves they're a photographer. Not quite the same, but has a similar air of dunning-kruger arrogance.

>> No.6403435

>>6403433
You have people asking chatGPT math questions and getting coherent but completely wrong answers go all soi about it.

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6403453

>>6403427
>needing AI to be a writer

>> No.6403456

>>6399999
>I always thought they valued hard working instead of going the easy way.
You didn't realize they copied and stole things from everywhere else in the world and only use technology to cheaply cut corners?

>> No.6403459

>>6403286
its over for animefy gigs on fiverr

>> No.6403506

>>6403459
Fiverr jobs are mostly done by pajeets anyway. Just pajeets eating another pajeet

>> No.6403532

>>6403427
>AI is making some of the well-known professions rendered accessible to the general publi
how the fuck were these not accessible to the general public until now? can you tech worshipping retards answer this already?

>> No.6403535

>>6403532
It's not. It's similar to "Photoshop will replace artists" in 2000s. The government always shill lies like yhat to drive the work force into hard and dangerous labor, in order to reduce the salary.

>> No.6403538

>>6403532
It's not accessible to your average joe in the same way being a programmer isn't accessible to tech illiterates
You can learn these skills from scratch for free through thousands of free online tutorials but it takes time and effort
This simple fact paired with the prevalent muh talent meme or the popular idea that art isn't a job results in cognitive dissonance in pajeets and tech chud so they come up with these bullshit excuses to cope with their entitlement. Or they genuinely believe that hard work is gatekeeping somehow, that's a very 21th century idea.

>> No.6403548

>>6403532
It is very accessible, just not the same way AI fag think.
>>6403204
They can't have copyright of "AI art"
Therefore you are free to pirate their prompt, no need to spend hours and prompt for free

>> No.6403631

>>6403204
That's referring to the AI itself owning the copyright. So the person who generated the image could still sue you and maybe win but they probably wouldn't cuz it'd be a waste of time.

>> No.6404017

>>6403548
Copyrighting amd selling prompts sounds very gatekeepy. Cmon proompters, that's not the open source spirit. Democratize prompts so everyone can be a proompter.

>> No.6404019

>>6404017
It's only progress if it doesn't harm you, got you?

>> No.6404020

this whole shit is like people riding taxis wanting to recieve an award for finishing a marathon.

Nigga, just run, just put your foot forward you lazy motherfucker, riding a taxi is not running and generating images that someone else drew from the internet is not drawing.

>> No.6404025

>>6403427
All of those professions will still be gatekept by those with the right connections. Everyone can create art, but that doesn't make them an artist. It was this way before AI and it will be this way after.

>> No.6404029

>>6400463
kill yourself
>>6400649
kill yourself
>>6400640
aaaaand kill yourself

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6404407

>>6400716

>fellow prompter
>fellow prompter
>fellow prompter

>> No.6404476

>>6398579
Good, how dare they include a tool that could help me be more prolific but makes me insecure about the spiritual significance of my hobby :^)
After all if we "push back" on this enough Stable Diffusion will go away :^)

>> No.6404478

>>6404476
Help you be more prolific with generic garbage.

>> No.6404610

>>6404476
>prolific
Spoken like a true pajeet

>> No.6404626

>>6404476
Text AI is exponentially better at generating code than SD is at generating images. If artists are supposedly fucked coders should already be out of a job.

>> No.6404663

>>6404476
I can tell you’re scared of the lawsuits :) good thing taunting us on 4chins is gonna stupefy dem artistz

>> No.6404688

>>6404476
Oh yes goyim, just draw 10x more to make up for the fact that we are stealing your shit and monetizing it without your authorization.

>> No.6404690

>>6404476
No tool could ever fix your dogshit art.

>> No.6404701

>>6399999
check'd

>> No.6404762

>>6402513
You wont show your work, you will show work that was made by a fucking machine, kys pajeet

>> No.6405169

>>6404688
That's what's so stupid about people saying to adapt, when the only real way to meaningfully adapt is to stop posting your art. Oh look, you posted a few dozen images with a consistent style? Great, now somebody can just code a model based on your art and churn out hundreds of sub-par knockoffs in the time it takes you to draw two, because they have no care as to quality since they have no integrity, no reputation to maintain, etc, just pumping out as much as possible either to intentionally devalue your work or make a quick buck off retards before the truth comes out.

>> No.6405186

>>6405169
They will simply use old database. And it prove that the less material make the best result.
The true way to adapt is add more noise, texture to your art, or post trad art using an average camera like we always do in early 2000s. It will mess up their database. If you don't know what I mean, check the Makima wearing Japanese team uniform, it have at least 3 different styles of painting and an edited logo,totally a mess. It's an absolute proof of photobashing

>> No.6405662

>>6404688
>we are stealing your shit and monetizing it without your authorization
>>6405169
>devalue your work
>make a quick buck off retards before the truth comes out
who's actually doing this?

>> No.6405670
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6405670

Check out this short comic I made with an AI bros.

>> No.6405675

>>6405670
Send it to DC they're gonna love it

>> No.6405687

And yet another day Im glad Im not ind*an

>> No.6405701

>>6405670
gay

>> No.6405705

>>6405670

which ai did you use?

Honestly I'm less concern with AI other than Stable Diffusion. The pajeet behind it is fucked in the head.

>> No.6405726
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>> No.6405727

>>6405670
Will DC sue this?

>> No.6405739

>>6405670
>"opens up their creative potential"
>artists are obsolete!
>90% of the AI shit posted around is derivative fanwork and/or direct attempts at aping a particular artist's style
Of course there's tons of drawn fanart out there, but fanartists never declare the designers of the characters they're aping to be obsolete.

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>>6405670
This is the original

>> No.6405778

>>6405739
no shit? It can't create anything new. and most importantly, it will never make "good" art. you don't learn how to draw correctly by simply copying other artists without understanding what is it you're doing. that's what bad artists and renderfags do, and they always end up with garbage anatomy and shit perspective as a result

>> No.6405860

>>6398625
this, itsa amazing how many people fall for their tricks, goyim never learn. The only mystery is why the jews hate us.

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>>6399357
now make this post in the OP of a thread on /p/ I want to watch.
>>>/p/
go on, we're waiting.

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>>6400278
>NOOO you can only use FREE Stock images
>my drawing is protected you cant learn my style
t. bizney executive
t. cal arts """"professional""""
t. diversity inspector
t. Corproate brand executive
t. furshit coomission artist.
did I miss anybody?

>> No.6405869

>>6405867
Why is your meme not AI generated?

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>>6405869
because I see AI as a tool and not a way of life. I see it as a factory that produces a possible product for use in the digital market place at best. I also recognize that memes in general do not in any way respect copywrite, so if your insistant on holding memes as a form of creation then you must accept that they are, in essence a creative enterprise that current obsene copywrite law overreach has trampled upon.

>> No.6405877

>>6405874
You're an idiot. But I can kinda respect you for at least trying to come up with an original shitpost.

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>>6405877
no you are, because you have nothing but cognitive dissonance and seething, despite the fact that you are on a venue designed to be frivelous with your every thought and opinion.

>> No.6405881

>>6405880
I'm sure you can add more buzzwords to your shitpost if you try anon.

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>>6405881
and yet I am sure you could not add a novel arguement or opinion to your own even if you did, which is exactly what you gave credit to me for being able to.

>> No.6405885

>>6405884
An argument about what? I'm just trying to reach bump limit here.

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>>6405885
an argument that my opinion is bad or flawed.
>I'm trying to autosage a thread some retard will just make again in 2 minutes
Now THIS makes you an idiot.

>> No.6405888

>>6405887
What argument?

>> No.6405889

>>6405867
>thinks he's sticking it to big companies with AI
>so far big tech companies, who cling desperately to their own copyrights, are the only ones making meaningful profit from AI, off the backs of not only the artists whose work they used to develop their AI, but also the sheep using it
>he's really siding with big tech over the average commission artist who probably makes minimum wage earnings off their art
Why are you so obsessed with sucking companies' cock? Does the idea of some retarded furry artist on Twitter getting paid $100 to draw a dogman taking a dump really anger you that much?

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>>6405889
No anon, however I'm not retarded, I know artists who draw foxes taking a dump for 100 dollars are brainlets like you who earnestly believe that the people who want to stop AI are not the companies who for LITERALLY A CENTURY plus whatevers left on copywrite jew have the exclusive rights to whatever style and platform they want because they have money and you have nothing but your limp dick and a pencil. Now anyone with a GPU doesn't have to go through their business loans, or have heaping piles of woke money stolen via tax dollars, to reach the market with a minimum viable product that people want.

No the best thing to do for people like this who already own everything and to whom money is meaningless and it's only important that you have nothing rather than they make more, is to make damn sure you cant produce anything, and that means doing everything in their power to keep the means of production out of the hands of the average worker. IT's no joke hilarious to see you fox man dumping 100 dollarino commies get gaslit into hating the only thing you've been screaming for. Yet it was never really a surprise either.

>> No.6405897

>>6405894
>to reach the market with a minimum viable product that people want
Ah yes, the world renowned AI artists that have put people who can draw and big companies out of a job. With their amazing blurry derivative low res images.

>> No.6405901

>>6405894
So you think that because AI image generators exist, copyright has been rendered obsolete? That you can now just generate Mickey Mouse art or whatever and sell it on t-shirts? Your argument has nothing to do with sticking it to the big copyright holders, because the big copyright holders are unaffected. The could choose to go after individuals violating their copyright before AI, and you can sire as shit bet they will with AI.

As for competing with them, people can, and have, been creating their own works to compete with big corporations and found success through the multitude of online platforms which allow them to reach the entire world, even without image generators - because they didn't, and don't, need them. There won't be a flood of wonderful new content which will put Disney out of business, just more slop from people without any ideas worth sharing. Just look at YouTube in a world where everybody has a camera in their pocket.

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>>6405897
>put gibe companies out of a job
pipe dream, they don't care about that and it's not going to happen, but they can and it definitely will come to a point that the output they are producing is embarrassing and worse than shitty AI stuff only a poorfag can produce, which is exactly why you sit here seething that AI is turning woke disgusting art into actually halfway decent shit, and along side returning joggers to monke. Meanwhile some awful goyim might actually be able to work, GASP, for themselves! instead of kneeling down to coomers and whatever corporate woke trash some jew wants stuffed into a magic card or website.

Yes clearly the companies that produce stuff like this want you to have access to anything that looks nice. They produce this trash intentionally, not because they are poor.

There is nothing the deep state wants more than to abjectly control the output of every artist in this shithole of a reality, and you can see that very clearly in the dual handed approach they take to politics, squeezing loli artists off of platforms like pixiv in the same breath they get a bunch of faggot woke trash like you to seeth about having the ability to output quantity approaching what they can do.

There is nothing they hate more that after you are done working your mcjob you might not be tired enough to publish some novel or players hand book or parody.

>> No.6405905

>>6405903
You typed all of that and you didn't even reply to what I was saying in my post.

>> No.6405906

>>6405905
I did you lying jew, I said your entire post was fucking hyperbole and explained exactly how the actual situation is playing out. admittedly with typos but it's late.

>> No.6405907

>>6405726
kek

>> No.6405908

>>6405901
>As for competing with them, people can, and have, been creating their own works to compete with big corporations and found success through the multitude of online platforms which allow them to reach the entire world, even without image generators - because they have free time/money to do so.
fixed that for (((you))). as usual, the poorfags, the people who have no support network or elders to take care of that they care about get to eat shit.

>> No.6405914

>There is nothing the deep state wants more than to abjectly control the output of every artist in this shithole of a reality
So lets relegate art to a tool of which the output is already controlled by the people who created it? What the fuck even is your point?

>> No.6405915

>>6405906
You went on a tangent about your /pol/tard fantasy. You never even mentioned AI artists in any way whatsoever.
You are the idiot that think that huge companies don't want this tech, when they have more processing power and workforce than you can ever dream to achieve and with their resources they can just deplatform you (which is something they already do by exploiting smaller artists).
But keep making up retarded realities based on your made up idea of a category of people.

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>>6405915
>You went on a tangent about your /pol/tard fantasy. You never even mentioned AI artists in any way whatsoever.
so what? I already told you that your post is hyperbole, you set the bar far higher than anyone would ever realistically call "success" such that nobody with a pen can do that either.
youre genuinely retarded
>the companies will just use more of it than you do
yes, but they DONT WANT TO
they dont WANT to produce good art, they want YOU to enjoy BAD art. Art that is abjectly worse than Anything an AI will produce.

They already COULD produce things that look more amazing than anything a single animator can generally compete with without autistic levels of time and money to sink into their pet projects. but they don't WANT to do this. there are diminishing returns in this kind of thing, and one guy with a GPU is a bridge too far for them.
>t-they'll just deplatform you
theyre doing that already retard. and theyre using you as the cudgel and you either don't mind being the arbiter that will usher in an era of corporate art garbage if you had to pick between it and normalfag AI donut steels or you are too stupid to understand it.

either way art as a concept would be better off if you slit your throat.

>> No.6405923

>>6405914
the output is controlled by anyone.

>> No.6405933

>>6405908
>check your privilege!
Do you care about the poorfags who make their living off of commissions getting fucked over by AI models trained off their style? The fiverr freelancer tiers of artists who will no longer find buyers for their low-skill art?

>> No.6405965

>>6405670
>>6405772
Why are burger comics always filled with these bold words everywhere. It's awful.

>> No.6405969

>>6405670
Is he adopting him as a son?
That's heartfelt.

>> No.6405971

What is this insane notion that small creators now have the power to output high quality commercial imagery now that they have a GPU.

They always could, there is no gatekeeping to art quality except skill, and AI doesn't changes that, artists could easily photobash in the works of other people since the invention of Google images, doesn't makes it anyone more skilled.

This
>>6405670

is completely valueless compared to this
>>6405772

>> No.6405973

>>6405971
The point is, people want art made by people themselves, a wonky drawing made by an artist is much more valuable than a weird rendered mismatch made by an AI.

The value is not in the appearance of the rendering, but in the person and skill put behind it.

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>>6405933
No, I genuinely don't, just like they don't genuinely care about me. These are exactly the kind of people who are going to disarm and hold back the progression of those with ambition and those who hate what society is like so they can use the cudgel of bureaucracy to keep their pocket change. I work 55 hours a day at a shitty job in FAGMAN and during that job I make 1/3rd of what someone flipping a burger made 40 years ago. the system is rigged to fucking screw all of us, and the last people I care to help or offer sympathy for are the retards who are screaming for even more of a fucking.

>> No.6405975

>>6405971
>time and money and talent are not barriers
you are retarded anon.

>> No.6405976

>>6405975
money? If anyone has money enough to go on the internet to complain about artists gatekeeping skills, they sure as fuck have more than enough money to buy a fucking pencil, a paper or even a cheap ass tablet.

Drawing tutorials are fucking free.

Disabled artists have special brushes for their mouths and feet and if an armless nigga can do it, anyone can.

What gatekeeping?

>> No.6405979

>>6405974
So are you telling me that people that are willing to put in time and effort to create something are not ambitious?
Is your definition of ambition sucking the dick of corporations?

>> No.6405986

>>6405975
you are the fucking retard here

>> No.6405987

>>6405976
>a-a pencil is all you need
t. fucking bizney except who can hire as many pencils and people to hold them as they fucking want
go fuck yourself you disingenuous piece of shit, it takes time to produce something, if you cant buy other peoples compliance you can't compete, period.
>>6405979
They aren't anything more than employees working for randos, not artists with their own ambitions. thats why they are out of work remember? And who gives a shit if they have to stop drawing coom b8 for 9 dollars an image or whatever the hell they make for their low tier art as you put it. Aren't both of you the faggots telling me that all they need to succeed is their drive and a pencil? then they can go work like me at a shitty job to "Finance" their "ambition", what, theyre too tired after their mcjob to draw anything? well sucks to be permabeg I guess.
youre the one who wants me to suck the dick of some corporation, and them to suck the dick of anyone that will walk by and throw some spare change in their violin case at best, or work for peanuts as temp help to some corporation at worst.

If you want to actually fix these problems why don't you go do me a solid and shoot everyone involved in the federal reserve and shadow government, then maybe my money will be worth something instead of me, living paycheck to paycheck renting a single room.
>>6405986
No U

>> No.6405991

>>6405987
it's amazing how you can write so much and all you manage to transmit in your worthless walls of text are platitudes like "it doesn't matter anyway because hurr. It already sucks and it should suck even more because durr". You know there's an easy way out of your pain right? Do a fucking flip, faggot

>> No.6405994

>>6405987
Why are you having a metldown over such a simple conversation?

>> No.6406002

>>6405991
>it already sucks and it should suck even more because durr
thats all you retards are saying
everything sucks because we have a huge bureaucracy and no one is willing to die to change it, so the only thing you nogs are willing to do is beg for even more of it's dick to ram up every one of our asses. eat shit.
>>6405994
youre the ones having a melt down over getting your own dream come twoo.
"yes give the workers the means of production!"
"NO NOT LIKE THAT!!"

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>>6406002

>> No.6406009

>>6405987
Man I don't know.

You think AIs will make people enjoy and value effortless images the same way they value good skilled art, I don't see it happening, I could be wrong, but I just don't see it happening at all.

I see a bright future for image generation in the field of compositing and editing, photobashers that need photorealism and value eficiecy above it all.

I just imagine people looking at a well rendered painting and ignorint it completely if they learn its generated by AI.

Its simply a tuing that should not be used to mimic human expression.

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>>6406009

I know a couple people in real life who laugh at amateur artist work and compare their "ai art" to an actual learning artist.

There are too many dumbfucks in this world. A large percentage of AI users seems to think it's their "talent".

>> No.6406320

>>6405974
You talk about it leveling the playing field for poor people, but when it's pointed out that the program itself took advantage of and could hurt the income of impoverished artists who themselves hope to use art to get out of poverty, you just go "no, actually fuck them too." At least just admit that you think AI art generation will somehow be your personal ticket out of a shitty life, and you simply don't care who else it could fuck over in the process, be it small artists living commission to commission or big, abusive corporations.
>"yes give the workers the means of production"
Not the anon you're replying to, but I assure you I'm not a commie.