/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Derine 'better'.

>>6394625
>based on the Stable Diffusion model
>has not provided any form of user data to train this model
How does that make sense? How does it know what a face looks like or even is if it has zero input?

>>6394654
read it slowly, its the art of saying one thing while implying another, i guess a lawyer wrote it

>>6394654
>a crab can't read for shit and is stuck in the 1990s
as expected.

>>6394625
Are image gen thread against the rules now? Because the other one got deleted.

>>6394625
I want to draw not photobash Danbooru

>>6394625
> Paying to generate that abominable shit.
Kekw

>>6394625
It's like they hired a consultant to give them new ideas on how to piss off their userbase in the most effective way. Why work on features that has been requested for years when you can add shiny new crap that no one asked for?

>>6394992
small indy company
they cant make the software working on multiple cpu core or gpu acellelartion

>>6394975
not sure, there used to be a generated images thread on here, but people didn't really post a lot of generated images in the first place and it was mostly more discourse.
you can try to start one if you want, i personally dont care about it from an artists point of view but i'm still curious about what people come up with while using it, even if most pictures are pretty generic.

>unleash a gay ass subscription model on everyone
>embrace AI
what the fuck is going on at clip studio? phot*shop unironically has more dignity now

>>6395001
Considering they are japanese I'd say out of touch boomer businessmen.

>>6394625
Holy shit based, can’t wait to see even more artist seethe on Twitter

A.I. wins again. Can't stop progress.

>>6394625
fuck clip studio and fuck japs. photoshop is superior

>>6395012
They already are crying their eyes out

>>6395012
they are eating CSP ass in the qrts lmao

Japs are fuming about this too.

>>6394625
lol
This is probably gonna end up like that other 'AI' shading/coloring gimmick they had that only some people gonna use once, and then forgot about it.

>>6395027
Sure. Same as photography.
Another gimmick people gonna use once, then forget about it

Can't wait to see people demanding to see a timelapse now.

But did they fix lagging on big brushes?

>>6395031
>the timelapse feature was made in anticipation of this
bravo japs. i kneeru

>>6395031
And why would it matter?

>>6395034
Create a solution, sell a problem

>>6394654
bro

>>6394654
the video implies that the face was drawn by the artist, and the bokeh background was generated by AI then incorporated.

they are aware of the issues, but they are still trying to push it.

They even made all their examples look like shit, what were they thinking

>>6394625

>>6395052
I mean it’s not like it’s their problem anyways, if the created image belongs to the user, then it’s the users problem

at least it different than dreambooth that you can train to copy someoneelse style

>>6395053
They are going to upload all generations to a online gallery lol

>>6394625
The image in their tweet has the correct number of fingers, so we know at least the character wasn't made by SD.

>>6395052
It'd be stupid to guarantee something like that, anyone could prompt a copyrighted character or some brand

>>6394625
Lol I called it
All that fuss over the price for 2.0+
When the current is already way more than enough for anyone doing art professionally, let alone as a hobby.
Only gimmicks from now on.
What other new features could a 3.0 version have anyway?

>>6395029
More like clip art or stock images. Ai will always be considered the cheap and fast alternative to real art.
If anything it will only make people crave real art even more, like how drinking ocean water makes you more thirsty, or how the cotton gin increased demand for slaves rather than putting them out of work.
Nobody pays commission for ai art, but this whole “moral” dilemma has made people realize that there’s something inside of them which craves good art.

>>6395077
but what if the AI art is better than the hand made art?

>>6395079
what if the world was made of pudding?

>>6394625
Great. So where can I also purchase their NFTs?

>>6395080
>he doesn't know

>>6395082
That the world is running out of pudding?

>>6395080
It'd be irrelevant, unlike my hypothetical

>>6395079
What kind of person do you have to be to make a statement like this? The king of crabs here, holy shit. Even once AI has been perfected, those creating it even understand what AI can and cannot do and can explain just how stupid this statement is. Sounds like you need to educate yourself on how AI works and how Drawing works, cause you clearly don't understand neither.

>>6394625

I'm actually okay with people having to pay to have access to this shit. but that freakin pajeet made it free for everyone to use...

now dumbfucks all around the world flooding the internet with their trash generation or trying to scam people into buying their trash.

>>6395001
Pretty sure Meta bought out the parent company so this is that shit rolling downhill.

>>6395090
Okay, forget about AI for a second. What if it was possible to automatically create art superior(more aesthetically pleasing on average) to hand-made art, do you think people would use it?

>>6395096

does it feed on existing artist work to produce something?

>>6395091
You wish you were as business savvy as that pajeet huh, earning millions AND making people seethe at once

>>6395046
That seems like the best use-case scenario AI will ever have for your average artist; fine by me.

Glad to be trad, so these bugman corpos don't have me by the short and curlies.

>>6395095
Wait what? Source on that? Dunno why they'd buy some nips company, their only product catalogue is CSP itself right?

>>6395096
Why do you think people still draw despite someone, out there, always being better than you? That's because self-improvement is rewarding. That's why people draw. Artists are curious by nature, and art is all about problem-solving. AI can't satiate this need.

>>6395075
This is in next week's update though, not 2.0

>>6395101
AI as a productivity tool is the most anyone can really hope for to be honest. It's like Photoshop's Liquify tool as steroids.

>>6395096
>aesthetically pleasing on average
You really don't understand how any of this works. I feel like I need to dumb down my vocabulary so you can comprehend the message being said here. Like teaching a grandma how to use computers now a days.
So forget AI, forget what Drawing is, cause like I said earlier you don't understand neither. Look up how Trends work and why Art Styles tend to change every 4 years, and why there's a dramatic shift every generation on how art is created and why designs shift so heavily. This will require you do some some basic research, so hopefully the education system hasn't failed you in understanding how to do that. And yes, this will all come together as to why AI is in discussion here.

>>6395102
>not using more than 5 mediums to produce artwork, obviously excluding a poor algo.
All artists should be against this and promote protections by the way.

>>6395106
*on steroids

>>6395106
Terrible analogy. It's nothing like liquify what the fuck

>>6395108
Okay, forget all of that. Assume a hypothetical situation where art can be automatically created that fits all your personal requirements for being good(and it also fits every persons individual standards) and even if they change the art would also change to match them, do you think they would use it?

>>6395117
You're wasting your time thinking about retarded hypotheticals. Go draw.

>>6394625
I tried to talk about this in another thread, about how art programs would react to AI and that they would probably incorporate it in newer versions, but you all refused to talk about it. Ignoring a problem won’t make it magically go way.

Anyway, now that you were forced to see it, I think that it’s lame to do simply add an image generator to a fucking art program… First, you can probably do better with custom merged models, second, it’s a program made for artists, that’s really insulting.

Like I said, I was sure they would implement some AI feature, but I thought it would be in a more artistic directed way, like some smarter, customizable and more efficient img2img filter, simply polishing your art a little. An even smarter bucket tool, auto detect depth for depth of field effect, etc.

>>6395106
>like liquify
its actually nothing like that. liquify will not produce a whole image for you.

>>6395117
At that point, it'll be more work to maintain the AI and way less work just to learn how to draw. There's a really good reason why more advance AI systems are used within' the industry yet the demand for artists are at an all time high.

>>6395104
I know, I meant the last version before they announced the new system prices.

PSchads, we cannot stop winning

>>6395109
That was my post. I'm against it and favor protections but these are some very powerful, amoral, masters-of-the-universe types who not only pull the strings of the political/legal system but got a great big head start in normalizing their misdeeds with the masses (they know public opinion still matters, else why all the censorship on social media, for example?).
Clearly, these smaller players (CSP and Deviant among others) see AI's copyright laundering as a fait accompli, so much so that they're willing to endure a massive backlash from their customers, because they believe the backlash will be temporary and most of their users won't follow through on threats to stop using their products.
When AI image generation — trained on private, confidential, copyrighted and illegal images — becomes a built-in feature of every device, app and OS (with massive profits flowing to the corpos), good luck getting the masses to care about infringement of artists' copyright, because that would mean they might lose one of their toys. Consoom, consoom...

>>6395036
So people don’t get scammed. Ai anime shit looks exactly like professional(generic) jap artist work to a certain extent. People are using ai shit to scam people in fiverr.

>>6395096
>"automatically create"
>"superior"
those are opposite ends of the spectrum. that's the point. it's like saying "what if a person put the entire sun in a walmart plastic bag" just shows you dont get what either is.

>>6395149
Okay, but can you answer the question though?

>>6395149
Imagine assuming automatically created means it's shit
Automation of various processes also allows them to be superior and more cost effective due to standardization, for example production of cars, I really wanna see some dude build a car manually, and how superior it is

>>6395155
Ferraris have their engine hand built (and a lot of luxury brands do the same) and kit cars do exist.

>>6395152
if i could burn a mental image directly onto paper, in the medium/media i choose, with no drawbacks whatsoever, i would do it. i'd probably still draw though, because some things can only be created this way.
the way machine learning works though, is not like that at all. the poles here are generic <--> shit looking.
people who want specific original images of specific poses/people/perspectives/backgrounds/light situations at the same time will not be able to generate them to their satisfaction, because the "superiority" of the generated images directly and heavily depends on having the algorithm analyze as many images as possible of that exact kind first. so in order to generate the images, similar images have to exist in the first place.
only the most average of all images turn out looking okay, but at that point you might just steal directly from the artist you want to emulate lol

>>6395155
you techbros cannot even comprehend the idea of creation, can you? the journey is rewarding, learning and applying what you learned, handcrafting art, that is rewarding.

>>6395164
Okay, that's good enough for me.

>>6394654
A model is like a set of rules resultant of training. They're saying they won't provide any data for training. I'm guessing they're saying they won't collect user's artwork made in CSP to enhance the models but will provide the premade model from SDF

>>6395071

>>6395166
The AIs they create are far more significant than even any "masterpiece" painting ever painted. If Renaissance men saw these AIs they'd shit themselves and want to work in the field themselves.

>>6395174
not really significant if all it does is spit out shittier looking facisimiles of art that already exists...
like, i guess its fun for some people to use as a toy, but thats it

>>6395123
>it’s a program made for artists
lol

>>6395174
Work more on your bait, this was really low quality.

>>6395174
Depends what model, all the anime shit, hand drawn or AI generated is trash compared to classical paintings

>>6395174
It's brute-force processing power, combined with pre-existing, human-made images, that makes this possible. It's not a "miracle" or the work of "geniuses" on a level with Renaissance masters. Stop sniffing farts.

>>6395181
Why would you buy CSP if you were not an artist?

>get into 2.0 pricing debacle
>somehow appeases users and starts healing reputation
>do this one months later
Are they fucking retarded? Is it impossible for these corpos to read the room? Artists do not want any of this AIgger shit no matter how much you shills try to push it, literally only permabeg nodraw failures are interested in this garbage

>>6395188
The data is important, but the model engine itself is the system that digests, parametrizes, and optimizes the outputs, and creates the model. Artwork is important but trivial in comparison.

>>6395192
>work of "geniuses" on a level with Renaissance masters
You're right. It's made by geniuses across electrical engineering; software development; math; computer science; and polymaths in software development, CS, and neuroscience. The old masters were smart for their time but like babies in comparison.

>brute-force processing power
You're so stupid it hurts.

IMAGEN IS THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

>>6395029
Stop it pajeet-kun, your lack of relevant experience is embarrassing.

>>6395194
I feel like buying it and sending feedback that I appreciate them adding the new feature just to spite the fags

Nice, I've been looking for a drawing program with a plagiarism machine built in

>>6395210
Nice, I’ve been looking for a drawing program where I don’t need to draw.

That sounds even more ironic. They are literally supporting something that makes their program useless.

>>6394625
>not a single artist past /beg/ asked for AI
>it is exclusively used by small time 3rd world pajeets etsy scammers and dopamine addicted tech cucks in dire need of instant gratification
>still gets astroturfed to death by shills and retards
>somehow now even companies like Celsys are trying to push it
Stillborn feature.
Techjeets do not get that every artist past /beg/ already developed their own workflow which does NOT include this derivative AI shit. It is not a ""tool"" you should market to artists especially considering how it was developed stealing from them.

>>6395198
>geniuses
who need electrical engineering, software development, computer science and neuroscience to accomplish a corrupted, distorted, lowest-common-denominator imitation of what the old masters did with burnt sticks, quills, grinded pigments and brushes.

>>6395198
>It's made by geniuses across electrical engineering; software development; math; computer science; and polymaths in software development, CS, and neuroscience
None of which can draw

>>6395214
Bro really going defensive over his inefficient and antiquated "workflow"

proompting is boooooooring
drawing is fun!

>>6395214
Listen, I don't like learning new programs either but there's no need to be so dramatic about it.

>>6395222
Not him, but with AI generation there’s simply no artistic workflow, you are not making art, you’re only requesting art to a machine and choosing between countless results the one that remotely fits what you actually wanted.

>>6395231
Which, is still more efficient? And you are bringing a piece of art into existence that hasn't existed before, so there is still creation

>>6395226
This. And not only is prompting boring, the results are stylistically constrained by the training dataset, and everything has that "averaged out" look to it.

>>6395230
There’s nothing to “learn” about AI, you just type shit (which you can search online if you wish) and get it done for you.

>>6395233
Just train hypernetworks on any other data lmao, you'll get any style you want

>>6395230
I'm annoyed at shills pretending that this shit which is, at best, a Google Images replacement, is like the 2nd coming of christ and somehow the new big thing for artists

>>6395234
Obviously you still have a lot of learning to do

>>6394975
AI threads get deleted, it's more on /g/.

>>6395232
>faster this efficiency that
they really don't get it huh

>>6395235
ya i know that but its still boring even when i get good results

>>6395232
>AI vomit
>art
lol
hang yourself pooja, back to /g/ with you

>>6395242
>beg and int vomit
>art
>anime trash
>art
become an hero faggot

>>6395232
It’s not needed, tech maniacs just want this because “reasons”, never heard of a dire need to instant art of the market would collapse.

It’s just some selfish desire to instant gratification and hate for those that actually took their time to learn art (yes, everyone can be at least decent)

That’s like making a dancing shoes, you just wear it and it will dance for you.

>>6395232
not efficient if it cannot, by design, generate what i want

>>6395243
at least those are actually made by someone so yeah, it is art. it's beginner's art. as for anime trash, well that's what 90% of AI slop is

>>6395167
She's on her period

>>6395237
No, pajeet, they are already automating this lame typing process too…

It’s just funny how you hate on artists as not efficient, yet try to look cool and say how hard it is to generate images. Shouldn’t it be easy and not a gatekeeping tech?

>>6395250
>"trash artists are artists!"
>"trans women are women!"
same shit lmfao
Also as for 90% of the slop, I do recognize it as trash, after all that's what 99.9% of anime artworks in general are, regardless if AI or not, at least people using AI for this shit are not wasting 70 hours to make single piece of that vomit, otherwise it's really worth pity

>>6394989
It's free for owners to update to the new version.

>>6395243
Anything done is worth more than anything generated.

and there disappeared what little guilt i may've had from pirating this diarrhea software

>>6395046
>the video implies that the face was drawn by the artist
my fucking ass it was

>>6395237
Quit gatekeeping you fucktard

>>6395259
are you retarded? before you get to become good, you need to draw like shit, it is inevitable. your comparison is beyond retarded, you probably see trannies in your fucking sleep. how do you even explain your logic, do you just draw an arbitrary line where someone's drawings suddenly start becoming "art"? once again, it is art, it's just low level art

>>6395259
>someone who picked up the tools and bothered to try and learn is not an artist
You clowns have to reach such fucking stupid arguments it's absurd.

>>6395270
he's trying to make it seem like beginners are the same as AI faggots who do create nothing. this fag gets triggered by the fact that even a beginner's jank has more worth than the garbage that's aimlessly made by a software, which isn't art because it's made by no one at all

>>6394625
>new tools that'll speed up your workflow
I don't need speed and I'll keep my skills after the AI servers crash because of the energy crisis.

It's kinda cool tho

>>6395237
>>6395257
This.
Where is your anti gatekeeping meta? You hate so much on artists, but want to become like them?

Krita chads, we win again.

>>6395268
>>6395270
I'm not denying you need to be shit before you improve, however, I refuse to call their doodles "art", you evolutionary U-turn
It's a disgrace to the meaning of the word itself, and honestly calling anime "art" is beyond disgusting, the old masters would cringe seeing that, so yeah, keep drawing your trash scribbles and don't call it art, since it's not true art, it's not better than shit AI spews out, but at least AI doesn't take a week to do one image
But hey, maybe one day if you'll ascend to the point where you can call your images art, I doubt, you'll probably 41% yourself sooner than that, however, one can hope

>>6395293
You really took half an hour to write such a weakass rebuttal?
Next time try using GPT-3 to write for yourself, considering you lack the skill even for that.

>>6395292
rape

>>6395296
I'm not as terminally online as you turd, imagine sitting on 4chan with your hands shaking, waiting to get a response like you do loser
Shouldn't you be doing better things like drawing? Or eating mommy tendies? I really doubt you can afford living in your own home, then again, you probably already got disowned, so I can assume you are writing from a homeless shelter, will make sure to make a donation to these

>>6395277
an absolute nothing-burger of an image. even the most bland artists still make illustrations in comparison that are thematically coherent and have some expression.
and you get to look at details without having an aneurysm.
this is why machine learning has no appeal to people who know what theyre doing or know what they want.

>>6395301
Just came home from work, but keep projecting it's really funny to me.

>>6394625
>Art progam
>Embrace a tech that automates art and doesn't need an art program
Incredible strategy.

>>6394625
lmao CSP keeps imitating PS
>https://youtu.be/oMVfxyQbO5c

>>6395304
>projecting
That's really only thing your kind can use as a defense huh "hurggh you called me something so that means you are projecting!!!" Pathetic
Please do keep posting your animay scribbles though, it's always nice to get to laugh at you retards trying their best to do one thing right and still failing

>>6395302
Unless they drastically chance how AI art works, it'll never be efficient for anything other than pretty random images.

It would need to work more like 3d, where the user has absolute control over pose, angle, composition, textures, shaders, lights and then it would make only the rendering. But I guess that would be too much gatekeeping for them.

>>6395126
Anon
1. The tech has been officially out for couple of months, you think studios are this fast to swap out people
2. To get good images, you still need prompter with autism or else you get mess of artefacts
3. Its still just 2D images of things. Nobody in the industry needs still 2D images. Most of the industry is 3D animations, or 2D animations, both of which AI is completely and utterly incapable as of yet. In terms of videoAI or 3D model AI, we are still in early 2021 or even earlier with the models that produce hot garbage, so wait 1 or 2 years to see stuff happen.
4. What do you mean all time high demand for artists? You mean like in the last 5 years the demand has been only increasing? No shit, market moves pretty slow, and legal issues even slower. This tech is something that was basically kept secret and then was released onto the market when it was already mere steps away from recreating all 2D art and rendering photorealistic images. Go look at what the tech was able to do in 2021, very few talked about it, but it was still impressive and was definite writing on the wall.

>>6395214
Only reason they market it to artists is so that normies are more ignorant about it. After all, if you are advertising it as tool to artists, you cant be accused of replacing artists.

>>6395317
>Only reason they market it to artists is so that normies are more ignorant about it.
Everyone knows about it, the spam on social media was absurd in October.

>>6395311
>It needs to work like 3D to fix the bugs
This cope has been around for 4 months, since then the AI learned how to make clothing that looks the same on both right and left arm, learned how to make lighting composition, and even sometimes gets hands correct and backgrounds correct, not to mention the fact that proportions and poses are correct basically 98% of the time, all without changing the way the program works whatsoever. Its so good the 3D model AI is using imagie generator to then turn them into 3D. Just like how you know what angle the hand should be without looking at reference or looking at your hand, so the AI pattern recognition know.

>>6395302
hmm, that image is cool but I prefer mine

>>6395323
It's still not controllable enough, the core of this tech is randomness, that's why we have seeds. Also, it's really hard to make specific characters with very specific and unique details, unless you have enough good data to train, embedding or use dreambooth, it would be really hard to get it right.

>>6395334
Don't bother replying to the shitposter.

There is nothing wrong with using AI generated images as a tool anymore than there is at using photos as a tool. It's when people try to pass generated images off as their own it is bad.

Photobashing
>SOUL BEAUTIFUL MAGNIFICENT ART
Using AI prompts
>REEEEEEEEEE IT'S LITERALLY PLAGIARISM AND STEALING YOU CAN'T DO IIIIIIT

>>6395315
I don't get it. For people who feel so obsessed with art, most of you anons are completely out of touch with the subject. What gives? Don't bother answering that.

>>6395326
this is a nice piece, the reflection to represent the soul, and hair for hands as a metaphor for never being able to grasp anything.

>this guy tries to imply other people are terminally online
>keeps bumping the thread with weakass bait

>>6395348
Who likes Photobashing?

>>6395348
Everyone looks down on photobashing though, and some people have been blacklisted by the industry for using other people's art, smelly indian.

>>6395348
lurk more retarded tourist lol

>>6395356
>Everyone looks down on photobashing though
Only in your retarded containment board maybe.

>>6394625
>Why are you still sticking to the decrepit tools, instead of embracing new tools that'll speed up your workflow and make your art look better?
Because I can, nigger? Should painters, marble sculptors and workers stop doing what they love just because some soulless machine can do it?

Also, it's not your art if you spent less than 50% of input on it.

>>6394625
Is it difficult to ask for software that doesn't come with bloated crap like this?

>>6395366
the terms of service and license of SD explicitly state that anything generate is owned by the user, so it is art of the user

Art in 2025:
>Prompt: 1girl, solo, white hair, (long hair), small breasts, (slim), (anorexic), illustration, absurdres, natural lighting, beautiful detailed, best quality, illustration,(beautiful detailed girl),beautiful detailed glow, red bodysuit, (masterpiece:1.1), splash art, highres, (trending on pixiv), red eyes, beautiful detailed eyes, elf ears
>Negative:less than {surrealism:20.0},low quality body parts,missing body parts,disproportional body parts,indistinguishable body parts,branched body parts,bent,body parts,rheumatism finers,ugly fingers,melted fingers,penetration fingers ,too fat,too skiny,low quality female,low quality male,poor colors,{less gradient all color :1000},{less gradient all contrast:1000},low quality clothes,poor background,without skin color,without shiny skin,unreddish skin,unbluish skin,ungreenish skin,unattractive,unmellow skin,unamorous skin,{less gradient all skin:1000},wholesome,expressionless,no eye expression,unmellow eye,unamorous eye,profound brightness ,profound darkness,3D,CG,{less details:1000.0},{less complexity:1000},unaverage{{realistic:1.0},{unrealistic:1.0}},less than {good anatomy of fingers only:1.0}, cat ears
A modern tragedy...... I want to cry!

>>6395368
I don't care what soulless bugmen businessmen says, only 100% of input makes it your own, anything between that and 50% is co owned, less than that means AI "owns" more of the final result than you do. And by "owns" I mean" credit goes to all the stolen art used to mash up the final result.

>>6395366
Do whatever you want. Nobody is buying your art anyway, so who cares what you do with your crayons.

>>6395374
>buying
That's what I hate about AIPajeets. Art isn't inherently a job.

>>6395374
I care and I'm buying.

>>6395371
doesn't change the fact, that anyone using SD can take the generated image, and according to the terms, monetize it, post it or whatever, and claim they made it, also, it's not stolen art, it's more of noise of the art, which you cannot prove was stolen anyways without having raw dataset

>>6395374
I'm pretty sure actual artists get commission unlike you AI shitposters.
But I guess self awareness is not your strong suit.

>>6395377
Cope more. Just like trannies, you will never be a real artist

>>6395374
i'll buy the crayons, crayons are cool

>>6395380
why'd I want to be an artist when I can easily transcend that? there's no point to downgrade yourself like that lol

>>6395383
>gets called out
>instantly evades into a retarded argument
Why do people even bother replying to you

>>6395380
>the one on the left is actually an AI art and the one on the left is a fucking photobash made by an "artist"
FUCKING KEK YOU DELUDED DOUBLE NIGGERS

>>6395383
>why'd I want to be an artist when I can easily transcend that?
Most pathetic post on this site.

>>6395387
big if real

>>6395155
It can be safely assumed that automatic creation of art will make it shit, yes. Art is not a car, it's not something with a specific formula that can just be repeated ad infinitum. It has meaning, it has to be created with a mind that can comprehend what it is doing and what it is making. You grossly misunderstand how any kind of art works if you think it can be boiled down to rote mathematical formulae or a dumb algorithm.

>>6395387
>Can't even keep his directions right while shitposting
Just end yourself now, shitskin.

>>6395384
>>6395388
>be a hard worker, achieve decent result after drowning years of your life
>be a smart worker, achieve a great result after spending a few days
some may want to be an artist, but to me that's being outdated, I'd rather do better than that, tho each to their own

>>6395390
not the dude, but do you unironically believe that artworks have artists soul in them or something?

>>6395392
>Le work smarter, not harder maymay
Literally every example of letting "smarter" things do your job leads to lower and lower human IQ levels. Like half of the human population now is no better than monkeys.

>>6395392
>be hard worker, achieve something after learning
>be AI "artist", pass all day making shitposting threads on the 4chan art board
Gee I wonder which one I'd rather be.

>>6395392Well, then don't cry when I pick up your work and sell it and get paid. And I will, because it's not your work. It's just the software that created them, which means they don't have authorship.

>>6395391
>posts a shitpost to prove AI is worse
>turns out the AI was actually the good one in the picture
>J-j-just end yourself, b-b-boogeyman sh-shitskin

>>6395387
Zed edge painted it

>>6395395
sry not gonna care about effects of that on faggots that'll be born in 100 years, gonna enjoy my life and that's it, basically, not my issue

>>6395399
>No argument so now he has to make shit up to save face.
Poopjeets, everyone.

>>6395397
sure dude, I have no issue if you take it and sell it, good for you and me, since I'll probably sell it too, but legally it's still mine

>>6395400
>Brownskins so evil and selfcentered they rather humanity die out just so you get yours right now
Literally Boomers 2.0. You subcreatures are literally worse than viruses.

>>6395406
humanity is getting shittier anyways with all the inferior species spreading around, I don't mind if they all eat uranium-235 even, again, I'll simply laugh in their faces

>>6395408
the irony of this post

>>6395390
Automated art is ridiculous because there's no need for that. It's like having automatic sport matches generations.

Pixiv dead
Clip Studio dead

christ, is this the end?

>>6395415
Art is a luxury need in a way, and automation of it allows for lower level of entry for "commissioning" it, I'd compare it to cocoa and chocolate, noone needed it, and yet here we are

>>6395420
Most people aren't artists and they are really loving being able to generate endless arts for free.

They'll probably regret it when AI replace their jobs too and any new job created by technology advancements will also be filled by more AI and robots.

>>6395091
>Tfw you can take this exact "book" and copy all the images and sell it for yourself and they cant do a damn thing about it since ai cant by copywritten
would be a damn shame if someone did that

>>6395422
They could learn how to draw too, art isn't only a "product" it's an activity and acessible for everyone.

That way of thinking is really dangerous, it's like: "I'm entitled to have anything I want for free and fuck everyone else, as long it doesn't harm me"

>>6395438
I absolutely agree, though the issue is that as with any activity it requires time to get decent at, only that with art it's long years, unlike a lot of other activities, during which you could easily get tired of it, and there go all the years you just wasted. AI gives the unique ability to skip the time requirements, which for me personally is a great thing

Many people just want to reject technology and return to monke, I kinda get it but it's too little too late.

>>6395432
Weird misconception, AI generated images can be copyrighed, it's just that the AI itself can't hold the copyright.

Many artists will lose jobs or see their commissions decline, AI will have a huge impact on artists, but human art won't cease to exist.

Look, we still got blacksmitths, something way more of a niche than art. Sure, it would be great to have some custom made knives, swords and stuff like that, but It's way more common to wish to have custom made art.

>>6395453
It's not about rejecting technology, it's about rejecting losing our humanity, our purpose. AI art is just the beginning, it won't stop there, AI isn't something that empower us, it's something that replaces us.

>>6395469
AI will never be able to automate food and water ingestiom for us.

>>6395469
>it's about rejecting losing our humanity, our purpose
are you for real? Holy shit, I wasn't aware /pol/cels and /x/ schizos are inbreeding now.

Imagen AI is satanic in nature.
Reject it.

>>6395476
>buzzwords
He's not wrong though. If you don't see anything wrong with AI you're one of those post-humanist faggots or you're very ignorant.

>>6395476
He is right, though, what will humans do in the future? There's AI art that demanded us to prompt things, now they are trying to make it even more simple and more automated. You needed programming skills to do AI art programs, now they are trying to automate that. What will be left for us to do? Humans do need puporse and do some activities or they'll simply go crazy, It's not filosophical bullshit.

>>6395478
>t. medieval commoner with a pitchfork hunting devils

Sirs, get depressed no point in doing anything.
Do not redeem your life sirs.

>>6395488
Sir... I redeemed two weeks ago...

>>6395348
Yes, its equally as bad as photobashing, but photobashing was still limited to human time, and also humans are worse at photobashing then machine. Machine photobashing looks more legit, thus is harder to see. Its like comparing somebody faking evidence with stopmotion animation, and faking it with CGI. CGI would be more convincing, thus more shitty

>>6395359

>>6395380
Zed Edge is fucking retarded, but nice bait. Your argument is so stupid that I assume you are shitposter larping as retarded artist.

Has anyone ever actually saved an image someone else genned? Whenever I see AIfags sharing art it looks like a conversation where both people are just waiting for their own turn to talk and not listening at all.

>>6395512
They save and share prompts, I take they only want to generate their own images and that's all.

>>6395512
Saved few but not many, mostly hololive characters

>>6395512
I've saved a few.

>>6395512
i saved a couple of pokegirl and higurashi ones, but deleted them later.

>>6395521

>>6395512
When AI art became a thing I saved some, but then I kinda got bored of it. It's weird because I do think they look good. It's a mix of over exposure and uninteresting things.

How well will the performance of this be is the images are not being generated server-side? CSP doesn't support multi threading or GPU acceleration.

Both are recommended for good stable diffusion performance

>>6395529
That's a useless update that ads an already free program (Stable Diffusion), as a "feature" in a paid program. It's nothing new to AI users and probably just an insult to artists.

>>6395524
What?

>>6395542
I pray for your timely demise

>>6395455
nope

>>6395512
>buy an expensive commission
>The artist was so dumb they drew the chair back post reversed.
>have to fix it through AI
Thanks fucking god AI is smarter than artists and fixed it.

>>6395554
okay I gotta be real that's kinda based

>>6395554
Why change her design so much? Different hair, hair bows, school uniform, even her expression and attitude look different.

>>6395527
I do find some good, but the usual way that I look at art I like where I come over every detail and make guesses about intention just doesn't work

>>6395554
>expensive commision
>image is beg tier
I hope AI fucks people like that (no homo way tho) so that they rethink their skill-price ratio

>>6395554
that school uniform looks vile wtf. whats with the butterfly in her hair?
just shows that ai will never give you what you actually want, just some fucked up approximation to some other artists work...

>>6395554
sauce of the top pic?

>>6395563
meanwhile the real people will give you trash quality, like the face, that looks like it's a toddler that was dropped a few times, and reversed chairs, not to mention scuffed book size, one side of it is way shorter than other, or the inconsistent lining on the collar, or the hair highlights, that's look like they are drawn off a ruler, or the position of desk, that is drawn at such an angle that it looks like it's at an angle compared to the window, which is moronic

>>6395572
Okay you wrote your rant, can you give me the sauce now?

>>6395561
I'm quite sure he paid like 20 bucks or even less. Most artists got pretty reasonable rates, it's just that art is not seen as a real job and any amount asked is considered too much. Obviously, I'm not talking about those overpriced "cartoonanime style" coon artists, they usually got thousands of followers and ridiculous prices.

>>6395563
AI is for pretty random images, it can't follow precise concepts.

>>6395554
>want soulful outlined style
>gives generic airbrushed pixiv trash

>>6395554
>expensive commission

>>6395582
img2img is bullshit. Too close to the original and it'll look some blurry mess on drugs, too far and it'll look nothing like the original art. An inbetween will give you just an underwhelming result compared to a full prompted art and still not a perfect match to the original art.

>>6395582
>soulful
>absolutely 0 soul in the top image
????

>>6395554
>goes from enjoying book to doesn't even look like they know how to read
AI sure loves giving those vacant looking expressions doesn't it? And what the hell is going on with the uniform and hair clips now? Also paying $40 for a colored background image is hardly what I'd call "expensive" especially for a commission by what looks to be an intermediate artist.

>>6395597
bottom one costs 0, aside from having to pay the original trash artist, and still has less mistakes than original

>>6395597
>>6395600
it's unironically cheaper to make a fucked up AI prompt and hire a fiverr artist to fix fingers and tiny mistakes.

>>6395554
>have to fix it through AI
>completely different character and mood
>Thanks fucking god AI is smarter than artists and fixed it.
Sure, it's drawn better, but it's also not you OC (or whatever the hell she was) anymore.

>>6395600
It cut the hair off completely. I guess if you like that sort of generic Pivix/airbrushed style, then sure. You still have more control over what you want with the top artist, even if they're less experience because you can communicate better what you want, unless you just let said artist do whatever from sketch to finish.

>>6395606
I feel guy had put denoising too low, the lower the values the more the image strays from original, so probably could be fixed by just cranking it up

>still no sauce
I only wanted to know...

>>6395614
twitter handle is @sattou0

>>6395612
Personaly, I still couldn't a get a reliable img2img workflow, if you limit AI's freedom it just doesn't perform that well.

Could you try it yourself? I would like to see other people trying img2img, most AI threads only talk about prompts.

>>6395619
I can do it if dude sends the commision image

>>6395512
Only for studying the rendering. The actual """drawing""" is dogshit and I don't use it for reference.

>>6395512
AI art, or at least the ones that get posted and are the most popular, all look the same so if you save one pic, you've pretty much saved them all.

>>6395622
What if instead of simply adding Stable Diffusion to CSP, they had added a new suite of filters and brushes that improves rendering?

Sure, it wouldn't be needed, just as AI art in general, but if it is to put AI in an art program, at least make it more controlable.

>>6395627
What if they did something useful instead like fixing the performance?

>>6395635
You have two options
>fix your fucked up spaghetti code to improve the performance. It'll take months of work
or
>add a plugin you didn't even make yourself

>>6395635
They won't. They only care about being trendy and look super high tech, even if means losing their actual costumers.

>>6394983
>I want to draw not photobash Danbooru

>KEK

>>6395638
>>6395639
Ah, I forgot. They're a monthly service now so they've got to shit out a quick "new" quirky feature to justify the sub.

>>6395643
Apparently this won't even be in 2.0 though?

>>6395001
>>unleash a gay ass subscription model on everyone
>>embrace AI
>what the fuck is going on at clip studio?

Dunno, but I'm going back to paint tool SAI.

>>6395052

Disney will fuck AI schizos in the ass, won't they?

>>6395585
$10 is a months wage here.

>>6395350
this post is more brainrott-inducing than porn

Fuck off.

>>6395671
Their lawyer AI wrote that.

>>6395554
You seriously paid for that top image? Thank you further proving that AIfags are jackasses. Also, your AI filter couldn't even maintain a simple idea.
>top: happy school girl reading a book, wearing a dark vest, carrying her attire normally, has 2 blue trinkets, and long hair along with a protruding strand at the top
>bottom: sad school girl reading a book, no dark vest, her sleeves rolled up for some reason, has two different blurry hair trinkets, and has short hair with no protruding strand at the top

>>6395682
They don’t care about the idea or “creativity”, as they like to boast about, they just keep generating until something that looks good appear, even if it doesn’t fit the original idea (which mean the creativity here is just how random AI is)

>>6395682
There's also a huge brown square in the back which I'm assuming is meant to be a second desk, but the shading is shit, so it's just a floating piece of nothing.

>>6395554
top image has more soul unironically
i dont know why techfags are so desperate to grind down the few remnants of our humanity

> this thread still gets 200+ comments
why do you faggots still feed those AIniggers?

>>6395693
There's only one thread on it at least, so all the unrelated complaints to this specific event go here too

Where's the fucking sale.

>>6395701
just pirate it

>>6395600
free, only because you didn't pay for the copyrighted materials used to train your model

>>6395029
No fucking way you're comparing glorified sprite comics to the discovery of the photograph pajeet kun

>>6395728
You are correct. Photography only allows you to get picture of stuff that can be seen with human eye at the moment. AI on the other hand can do anything in any style of any composition as long as you can describe it. It will be bigger then the photograph

>>6395554

>Top
>Happy
>Cute
>Soul

>Bot
>Sad
>Generic
>Souless

Top image is not as skilled, but the girl is alive.

>>6395767
How about a full body shot of an anatomically correct woman in an aquarium?

>>6395647
Does SAI ever have sale?

>>6395554
Stop lying, top pic is your own shitty art

>>6395767
Photography also didn't require stealing to create it

>>6395807
>Take photo of painting
>Now you have painting at home
>You can even print it on a canvas if you want
>No laws were made to protect artist rights, rich people just decided to turn the original handpainted painting into real life NFT and launder money with it
>Fuckers can even sell tshirts with Mona-Lisa without paying French government for the copyright

>>6395811
finding old paintings for studies would have been way easier if this is real

>>6395811
It didn't require stealing to create the technology

>>6394975
Depends if it's actual news or just obvious ragebait ("It's over" threads)

AIchads, we can't stop winning!
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2qEm1B

>>6395927
>"instantly creating finished works infinitely better than I can create on my own"
>In just this single image set you can see parts of images that are nearly exact replicas of each other, doubtlessly ripped straight from a piece of art included in the dataset
>"creating"
What did the AIcels mean by this?

>>6395927
>>6395939
AHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAAAAY HOLY SHIT IT'S KEANU REEVES

>>6395948
HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS I'M STRAIGHT POGGING RIGHT NOW FR FR NOCAP ONG

>>6395811
I don't know where to start to explain how retarded you sound.

>>6395927
you niggers are salty AF.
Even without AI he's better than anyone on this board and he's using AI the way it's meant to be - as a tool.

>>6395939
>pic related
That is no doubt bashed Frank Frazetta's work. I wish the ugly indian behind SD and everyone else gets his just deserts already. Probably won't happen in this postmodern consumerist shithole world.

Every single AI image I've seen has a profound sense of "who would want this?", no doubt from the lack of intention in ever choice. Every element is arbitrary, picked because it was the only result of hundreds that looked any good, and not because that's what anyone wanted.

>>6395960
>blatantly ignoring king arth- I mean keanu reeves bleeding on a battlefield
I know you saw it nigger, don't pretend you didn't. This piece of shit can't do anything but amalgamate data it's already been fed, it's nothing more than a glorified photobasher. Good fucking luck getting any practical use out of this silly toy when it's literally incapable of creating anything new retard, AHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED

>>6395960
Okay so he will make actual work with these right? He isn't going to upload unintentional body horror as is, is he?

>>6395967
>a guy in a slightly similar pose
>REEEE IT'S AMALGAMATION OF A MEME BECAUSE MEMES ARE THE ONLY THING THAT'S INSIDE MY HEAD BECAUSE I LOVE 4CHAN AND TIKTOK REEEE
get help

>>6395970
THE FACE IS NEARLY FUCKING IDENTICAL LMAO
NICE MEME MACHINE RETARD

>>6395972
>resorts to posting discord memes
case in point

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE AFRAID OF REPLACING US
OH AM I LAFFIN'

>>6395970
> t. zero self-awareness
kys

AIfaggots need to kill themselves NOW

>>6395927
I can't help but notice that the guy who made this post is a professional who has worked on many large productions, while all the comments against his post are a bunch of nobodies who are either freelancers, commissioners, or work for companies I've never heard of.

YOUR MACHINE GOD IS DEAD, FAIGGOTS
PACK IT UP
GO HOME
IT'S OVER
WE'RE DONE HERE

>>6394625
>instead of embracing new tools that'll speed up your workflow and make your art look better?
Explain how when AI results always looked like shit?

>>6395980
>muh appeal to authority
neck, rope, nearest hangar rack, NOW
This is NOT negotiable, you WILL do it IMMEDIATELY

>>6395980
>I've never heard of.
You didn't even know who he was or what is actual job is.

>>6395986
The way I see it, it's one guy who actually made it vs a bunch of crabs who didn't.

>>6395993
The way I see it, you're a faggot.

>>6395993
>Made it
Everything in his ArtStation acc is 90% AI shit, 3D renders, and photobashing, and all of it's tepid as pond water. This faggot is absolutely gobsmacked about how this thing can create INFINITELY BETTER WORK THAN HE CAN MAKE HIMSELF!!!! (words straight from the horse's mouth!) and you're telling me, haha, you're telling me he "made it" and everyone else is just bitter, jealous crabs snibbidi snabbing at him? Lol, lmao even. This guy you cited as a "win" for """"AIchads"""" is the one who's a literal fucking who here. Meanwhile, picrelated is punching several weight classes above in the "making it" department. Not that it really matters, what with appeal to authority being bullshit and all, but you really have no ground to stand on here. Get fucked, fAIggot.

>>6395960
>he's only using AI as it's meant to be... as a tool to rip the shit out of Frazetta

>>6395214
techbros are obsessed with it.
if you go on /g/ you'll see all the fags defending AI-generated photobashes go on weird rants about how they want artists to suffer. it's utterly bizarre and obsessive.
many, many of them admit to learning how to program because they either couldn't make it as an artist or failed being an artist in one way or another. seems to be fueled by jealousy for some reason. they aren't interested in it being a tool, they're interested in depriving artists from producing art.

>>6395927
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2qEm1
what the fuck is this

>>6395993
Speaking of crabs though, hot DAMN how obsessed are you when you spend all of this time scouring the internet for every little tidbit and morsel you can find to crow from the rooftops here on /ic/? You really spend this much time, OBSESSIVELY FUD posting this AI shit just to drag other people down? Really, snibber?
Take your silly photobashing toy for coomers and sub-90 IQs and fuck off back to /b/ and/or /g/ with all the other retards generating animay tiddi to coom to. You massive fucking loser.

Funny how Japanese version of announcement is way more civilised with way less people autistically screeching, is it just western “artists” that lack brain?

>>6396013
They're screeching in their own tweets. They're too polite to yell at the company itself.

>>6396018
Majority seems more welcoming of the idea, with several just stating concerns related to copyright of dataset, compared to absolute hostility of westerners and throwing their feces like pajeets against their screens

>>6396019
Ah yes, the exodus from Danbooru never happened.

>>6396013
>muh nips folded 100 times are more subservient and willing to get fucked in the ass by some shit art theft feature none asked for served with a pathetic "sorry of you get pursued for IP theft using our built-in feature"
Westerners are right to raise a fuss over this garbage and threaten en masse to never give them a cent again you dumb faggot

>>6396037
I’m glad clip studio is filtering the sewage of humanity using this decision, primates are steaming with rage and promising not to spend any more of their very limited money, and smart people are just going to use it and dominate over the primal NGMIs

>>6396047
Cool bait anon why don't you shove it up your filthy pajeet ass

>>6396050
I’m sorry I have white Nordic skin you envy, unlike you monkey

>>6396053
Is this what you youngsters call cope?

>>6395998
>a photobashing loser is lecturing others on art
LMFAO

>>6396063
Looks better than anything I've ever seen made by AI>>6396063

>>6396067
looks like a midjourney render only with higher res and finer small details

>>6396013
They're posting the same complaints, retard.
Once again, you AI pajeets claim something without posting proof because you expect nobody to be able to take 5 seconds to check for themselves. And once again its a lie about what japanese people are saying.
>AIで絵の価値を下げるなよ............やめて よ....... (Don't lower the value of a picture with AI..Stop it........)
>著作権問題のあるAIパレットを用意しといて後は責任持たないとか そんな話通るわけないでしょ? 盗まれた可能性のある人は訴えていいと思います. (There's no way you can say that you've prepared an AI palette with copyright issues and then you're not responsible for it, right? I think people who may have been stolen should be able to sue.)
>人の診療録用に取られた写真まで学習データに使うstable diffusionのことだから他者の権利を侵害することがもうほぼ確定なのでは?(It's a stable diffusion that uses even photos taken for people's medical records as learning data, so isn't it almost certain that the rights of others will be violated?)
>泥棒と結託してるようなもんだしな すげー商売だ (It's like colluding with a thief. It's a great business.)
>なんでお絵かきを推奨するお前らがイラストの価値を下げるんだよ。(Do not be silly! Why do you people who recommend drawing lower the value of illustrations? I'm quitting my monthly subscription.)

>>6395927
>a generic 3D modeler who hasn't worked on anything for about a decade and only posts AI shit on his social media with barely any followers

>>6395927
>>6395927

>>6395198
If the power goes out, you're nothing

>>6396013
>CSP
>civilised
they just try to copy every tool from PS
PS already has this shit

>>6396006
>on weird rants about how they want artists to suffer
nah, its just banter
nobody cares about artfags until a troll /ic/ crab or one pretender shitposts and anons shit on either side, most to them didn't even know /ic/ existed

>>6395292
There has been a SD plug in for Krita for a month.

>>6395370
>>Prompt: 1girl, solo, white hair, (long hair), small breasts, (slim), (anorexic), illustration, absurdres, natural lighting, beautiful detailed, best quality, illustration,(beautiful detailed girl),beautiful detailed glow, red bodysuit, (masterpiece:1.1), splash art, highres, (trending on pixiv), red eyes, beautiful detailed eyes, elf ears

>>6395998

>>6396013
there was a japanese announcement? i was about to comment on how there were only tweets in english and korean as if they knew the nips would eat them alive

>>6396013
not sure what's more pathetic. that you're lying, or that you see Japanese people do thing and you automatically assume that's the correct thing to do. funny how you're literally retarded and cannot think for yourself. tech consoomers should stop yapping about brains, minds and IQ, you're the definition of an NPC

>>6395980
>e that the guy who made this post is a professional who has worked on many large productions
where?

>>6394640

derine these buts

>>6396645
KEK

>>6394992
>consultants
I fucking loathe these people, it's always this vague profession pitching the worst shit. Do they just send emails all day
>>6395652
Isn't Nintendo 1000x worse when it comes to copyright?
>>6395096
I feel like bugmen don't understand how rewarding it is to do shit for yourself instead of outsourcing it to some algorithm. Yeah, I could have tomatoes delivered to my house but harvesting tomatoes I grew in my garden is so much more rewarding. Same goes with art. I don't think it's a feeling the average r/singularity user is capable of experiencing
>>6395222
Bro bro fr fr ong god bro no cap cuh this aint bussin

this is 2023
>anon post a drawing on twitter
>nice drawing, what app did you use?
>clip studio paint............i-i swear i'm not using any AI to make this!!

>>6396838
Kek. Every artist who uses CSP will be suspected of AI now. Talk about tainted software

>>6396868
>>6396838
clip bros... it's ogre!

>>6394625
i shat on you fucks when you didn't realize analog is just superior and i shat on you fucks now that you're being replaced

>>6396838
what the FUCK do i use now? is affinity our last hope?

>>6396987
if regular digital already made you irrelevant all this does is making you ten times more irrelevant

>>6396838
>>6396868
just post the timelapse like some people already do retards

>>6397012
Come home. There will never be AI here.

>>6395096
AI will replace artists when idea guys are able to properly articulate what they want in a way a logical being can understand.

So, never.

>>6395152
Where's the ai art in Magic cards and book covers if it's so good?
Where's the ai art in LoL splash screens?
Even the cheap ass Chinese spamware "games" on ads still use real art.

ai looks derivative and soulless because it is, you don't want to look at it for more than a couple seconds. It's useless for corporate engagement.

>>6395198
lol you don't even know how this shit works. It's decades old obsolete code breaking it just became viable for off the counter computers to handle five or so years ago.

This "miracle" has been around since 1994 and still can't draw hands.

>>6395232
>is still more efficient?
No, waiting an hour then having to look for thousands of images of shit that's now what I wanted to draw is in fact not more efficient than stopping being a fag and learning to draw backgrounds.

>>6395554
The art example of the "giving up liberty for safety" maxim.

I wish I had a better gpu. AI is too slow now.

>>6397370
>p AI nt
noooo...............................................................

>>6397436
>ai looks derivative and soulless because
yeah because it looks just like the things you mentioned lol
if ai catches on those will be the first to go. good riddance though

>>6396838
krita chads cannot stop winning

this is a goofy little funny little ai. I hope my data is safe

> Jannies delete "based" StoneToss thread because he gets mogged on his own stupid argument.

We can do it all day faggot, bring it on AI shills.

>>6394625
Really? This os the whole new deal with CSP?

How abouy rewriting the fucking program so it actually DOESNT RUN SLOW NOR SINGLE CORE NO MORE!

(Also color indexing would be nice, i really like its pixel brushes)

>>6395001
>BuBiuBUBuBUBuBUT JAPAN JAS NO SJWs!!
>THERE NO SOCIALISMO DESU NEE

>>6395647
Does SAI has a real liquify tool at the very least?

>>6395469
Absolutely based

AI FAGS BTFO