/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6371064
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?showOnly=withImage

>>6371064
Unrelated but what's up with Kevin Finch's pencil handle? It's taped?

>>6371401
You mean David Finch? The extra girth makes it easier to hold in general. You can hold it with a more relaxed grip or since it is soft, grip it tight without much strain on your hand. This helps to ease cramping from long sessions. It also makes it a bit easier to control of the tip of the pencil.

>>6371401
spooky. my first name is kevin. is this some kind of secret message to me?

Whip

>>6371675
Good job m8. Looking forward to what you have tomorrow :)

>>6371064
hello lads, its been a while and i sorta stopped making work and trying as an artist or as a person to be honest, for a while, but im going to recommit myself again, and actually give it my all. hope you have all been well.
heres a quick study i made in probably an hour or so recently

>>6371064
hello lads, its been a while and i sorta stopped making work and trying as an artist or as a person to be honest, for a while, but im going to recommit myself again, and actually give it my all, and start drawing daily again. hope you have all been well.
heres a quick study i made in probably an hour or so recently

>>6372177
>but im going to recommit myself again, and actually give it my all, and start drawing daily again.
based, rooting for you bro. You're already very good, so i dont' think you have much further to go before you go pro!

>>6372177
GMI

30 min warm up

wip

>>6372642
did another one, 30 min

>>6372710
so cute

>>6372284
>>6372368
thanks guys! happy to be back making stuff again, also bridgeman chad, i kneel
>>6372642
>>6372700
>>6372710
good work guys!

>>6371980
Nice drawing and thank you, anon, I'm finally reached "Drawing" section, feets were so hard.
>>6372177
Welcome back!

30 min study

>>6372726
>>6372800
thanks

Really proud of this one, retained a lot more than I thought I would.
>>6373430
Cute cröb

Going to paint this tomorrow. I can see some fucky things already but hoping I can fix it in paint.

my daily submission

>>6373597
looking forward to it. Drawing is very clean

>>6373583
You did a wonderful job memorizing Bridgman's shapes. Again though, i think there are some problems with the overall proportions of the legs compared to the upper torso. Each individual part looks great, just the proportions are a bit weird.

>>6373014
>>6373430
nice

>>6373583
i would do something like this. Again, not critiquing your anatomy or shape language, just the proportions

>>6374012
>>6374043
Thanks and very nice sketches.
>>6373430
Your paintings are very nice.

I need to work on head rotations and Morpho technique for drawing heads are little a bit hard for me.

>>6371064
More arms from bridgeman

>>6374043
Wonderful sketch. Love the expression in profile. Clothing is a bit confusing though, is something pulling at her shirt?

>>6374012
>>6374016
Yeah, I think I'm making the femur too short. Although in my defense bridgman gave his guy a slightly stubby leg too

>>6375453
ye, took a peak at it and the legs are stubby. I would've redlined Bridgman's sketch too, desu...

Huge improvement though, on this one, from yesterday. It's remarkably better.

>>6375247
ty! and yeah, now that you've pointed out the clothing, it's visibly awkward

>>6375243
>>6374299
good job!

>>6375473
Thanks, today just this and I think tomorrow I'll skip a few pages and hope to the features because they're so hard even copy for me.

>>6375243
>>6375453
Bridgman looks so good.

>>6375473
Thanks, today just this and I think tomorrow I'll skip a few pages and jump to the features because they're so hard even copy for me.

>>6375243
>>6375453
Bridgman looks so good.

>>6375586
>I think tomorrow I'll skip a few pages and jump to the features because they're so hard even copy for me.
then you'll go back to the pages you skipped? :)

Really liking Tsukasa Hojo recently

>>6375586
if you haven't tried the memorization technique, now would be a good time to try it, especially if you're going for simpler studies like for the features.

Make a study
Put away the reference / previous drawing
Draw it again

This will really help the shapes you are studying in Morpho come out in your imaginative drawing

another day of me trying to make rendering a habit again with these 30 min studies

Insanely hard, took like an hour and a half, and an hour of that was just staring at it. Of course I got the first figure done before I realized it was gonna go off the page. So there are no corrections on this one, I did them after I took the picture because the page would be extremely cluttered. Still, I got more right on the bottom one than I thought I would. I think if you had to memorize one bridgman drawing perfectly, it should be this one. There are so many clues and shorthands about how bridgman constructs and thinks about the figure. I will be revisiting this one for sure.

any general tips for someone who wants to learn how to paint, but has been drawing for a long time ? right now I am doing photo studies and try to paint as much as possible with the standard PS round brush. Am I overrendering and should I do quicker studies?

>>6377058
Good job. You memorized 2 figures at once? Based...

>>6376447
looking forward to more!

>>6377749
I wish I could help... someone who can paint should jump in, as i'm curious too

>>6377749

>>6378026
Yeah, should have done one at a time probably lol

>>6371064
Is this yet another Merchant image? Why can't you chuds go one day with being huge antisemites?

>>6378450
stupid bot

>>6378891
nice work

>>6378450
meds

>>6378075

>>6378891
amazing.

>>6378891
Beautiful work

Two pages because I ran out of room

>>6380592
2

wip

studying backgrounds today

>>6380592
>>6380594
>>6381641
>>6381682
>>6381696
>>6378976
>>6378891
Molto bene!!

>>6381965
Looks greay, what are you copying from?

>>6382159
>greay
Great*

>>6381965
lovely hatchwork

portrait study

Tsukasa Hojo

>>6382159
>>6382431
thank you <3 It's from Witch Hat Atelier

>>6382650
virtuoso!

Eniale

>>6382882
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the /beg/ club's two threads down

>>6382887
making mistakes is a part of learning <3

a simple face. okey, signing off for the day

>>6382887
Read the OP. Artists of all levels are welcome here, as long as they're studying and improving.

I had fun with a cast

I need to get a bit of the looseness here that >>6382832 has achieved. It's really easy to make digital look too stale...

>>6384206
hmm, you're way better than me so i don't know what you're talking about. But thank you <3

>>6383620
>>6383810
>>6384010
καλή δουλειά!!

>>6384206
>>6384365
Sugoi

wow you guys are really stepping up, good work anons :D

>>6376447
40 min study

>>6384654
ty <3 good job on your studies again, bridgman-kun. The bottom left figure is amazing

>>6385459
nice-u

>>6371064
rei study

>>6385906
I wish i had ur skills

procrastinated on drawing the whole day, opting to read Berserk instead. Wildly good manga I missed out on

>>6385899
Thanks!

>>6386084
top left figure is the best

>>6387430
Thanks, yeah the simplified ones gave me trouble for some reason. I'm probably going to redo the bottom right one here.

>>6387701
>>6388267
good job, watashi no tomodachis

>>6387701
good idea to redo. You'll only benefit from it

>>6388536
That's true. It felt a little like cheating lol, but as long as I'm learning, that's what counts. I feel like it was an improvement.

>>6385459
1.5 hr masterstudy

>>6388851
>>6389355
nice

study

>>6389355
>>6390057
These are great
>>6389949
Thank you

>>6390057

I think you could get away with some even lighter lights in certain places.

>>6391244
yea. I also fucked up the values in general around the eyes.

>>6390078
>>6391232
your proportions are already improving from before! Now, I think you should try to make more of an effort to clean up your lines. It's can be a trap to settle for scribbly lines.

>>6392198
Yeah, I've been having trouble lately. Might redo this one tomorrow. Thank you though

>>6392309
Failed captcha like three times and file disappeared somehow. I'm going to bed

>>6381965
can you please post the pic you copied from? thanks in advance.

>>6377749
>>6378026
I have the opposite problem, I took a painting class years ago and can only fix things or add detail by reshaping blobs of "paint". My skills have degraded from absence and I'm playing catchup, but my eyes are still ok. I'd like some help on that, but for your problem:

Usually a person has a preference for what kind of style of painting they want, even if they aren't consciously thinking about a certain era of painting. Here are some things to keep in mind while painting:
Do you like it when it looks like you painted it, or do you want to hide it?
Are little details fun or annoying? How about highlights?
There are many ways to make a focal point, which way do you like?

And when you've figured this out, you bend more towards that direction. Since this is the master study thread, you eyeball the art movements on wikipedia or something and say, "that one". For example, someone who doesn't enjoy painstaking detail and wants a painterly look, but likes little flourishes may study impressionist artists.

>>6392533
here ya go, from Witch Hat Atelier

>>6392698
thanks anon. beautiful flower. It seems that you just have to kinda go for it, but blobs of paint scare me because of how messy it looks before you clean it up. The precision you get from lines just aren't there from the start. I plan to do lots of master copies to learn painting though; I have a book of John Singer Sargent's charcoal portraits and I was thinking of just making 1:1 copies of those, eventually. I like to start with figurative subjects and then hopefully everything else takes care of itself. I also have GuWeiz's art book, which I plan to study

If you really feel like you're struggling with line drawing and need help with that, I think you should watch the David Finch study streams linked in the op of this thread, they really helped me and showed me the way a pro comic artist might study

>>6392310
top left figure is god-tier, anon. Keep it up!

nice work everyone!

>>6392698
thanks for the response. yes, I definitely like the painterly look. while I strive for realism, I don't much care for hyper realism. little details and highlights are the desert for me, I actually have to hold back on doing them too early in the process.

>>6385459
Nice onion anon, Made me want to do an onion study as well

20min study

can I get some critique?

>>6392889
I'll check them out.

>>6393167
it looks like you could stand to push your lights just a tiny bit lighter

Quick and crappy kjg study.

>>6392983
>>6393012
>>6393167
good work

some more kjg

>>6392892
Thank you!

I tried to be more aware of my lines, also I think the bottom left in pic related is my most successful so far. I'm really happy with this one, and I only looked at the figure for like ten minutes. I'm learnding!

>>6393592
bottom left figure is kino, for sure. The shape of the pecs and shoulder are perfect

>>6394715
Thanks anon!

>>6395069
Nice work Anon. You’ve really gotten the hang of this!

any tips on hard round studies? i'm fucking shit at colouring and values but i'm not quite sure how to approach it digitally

can't seem to find resources that show how to throw down colour and values and blend

>>6395479
Anon, you can't just drop something like that on us out of nowhere, this is astonishing. How long have you been painting?

>>6395479
very cute.

>>6395479
>hogarth knees

>>6395659
This is just a study. About 15 hours, I huess

30min study of a movie screenshot

>>6372710
you have a beautiful style anon. anywhere we could see more of your work?

>>6395479
i coomed to those legs

Is this too sloppy, should I make my lines cleaner? I have a habit of sculpting shapes with multiple sloppy lines because it's easier to feel the form that way. Bridgmans page 31 btw

>>6395894
yeah, it's too sloppy. looks like you're drawing digitally, so just lower the opacity and draw on top, almost as if you were inking a comic book

>>6395120
>>6396145
Oops, I had to reload the page and it ate my reply. Thanks anon!

>>6396145
I still feel like you could push for cleaner lines, especially if you look at the bottom left figure's right arm. Even in your correction sketches, I think you could've been a bit more careful.

Keep at it!

>>6396816
Yeah, I focused on cleaner lines this time. Had my most successful Bridgman leg so far, the weight bearing one on the upper left, and then did the worst sketch I've done yet in the lower left. Successes and failures.

>>6396653

>>6397701
perhaps try painting something that will teach you light and form more. Something like a plaster cast, statue, or a human figure. If you're just painting bread, you'll just get lost in the little shapes, but you would've been better prepared to paint it had you a better foundation in the fundamentals

>>6397713
I had no idea bread would be the wrong place to learn, time for quickposes

>>6397773
it's not wrong, it's just a recommendation. You can paint bread!

>>6397463
lines are definitely cleaner!

>>6397948
Honestly, I'm just glad someone replied to me. /beg/ ignores every post I make.

>>6397991
I don't like to say this but from my experience with /beg/ most people there are unredeemable. It's not wrong to say that this thread is like a containment zone for aimeless people to gather together and reinforce this feeling of being aimless onto one another.

If you want to improve you should stick with threads where people have a better work ethic and sense of direction, such as this thread here (and I say this as a lurker, I haven't posted in this general yet).

>>6397951
Thanks!

Bottom right figure got way too messy and disproportionate but the other two felt nice. Still doing two steps forward one step back but I've come a long way since starting my first copy.

>>6398628
yes, you've improved 10x since you started, I think.

Also, I really really encourage you to do your daily 30 min gesture drawings too. It will help everything from Bridgman sink in more. It'll show you how all this stuff is applied, and I'm afraid you're not getting all that you can out of Bridgman without the gesture drawing.

quickposes.com is a good website to start for this. just 2-3 minute drawings of basic cylinder figures will take you a long way. I'm sure there's an extra 30 minutes you can fit in your schedule.

>>6385906
I know this was posted a while ago but given how complicated the original seems to be, how did you go about starting this study? I still stumble over my own feet when doing master studies of complex work

>>6400090
spend quite some time doing line art
then paint all the big shape first squint my eyes till it has similar value and color contrast (since I don't try to make it the exact color from the rei one)
when both are done the rest is just mindless zooming in and filling/rendering all the small stuff following the line while zooming out to double-check the big picture with rei one
then paint over the line and redraw some of it
notice that rei is using a different technique here with clean line art and sticking to it so the edge is cleaner and can change line art color a lot. which is hard for me to do since the ref is kinda blurry and I'm lazy so I draw loosely then paint over and redraw some of the line art

>>6399885
I do gesture drawings but it's true there's always room for more.

>>6400122
oh, i thought you weren't doing them. If you are, that's good!

good work today btw

>>6400120
thank you for this, anon

>>6400126
Thanks anon

some hands from some animation genga papers

surprised at how similar anime hands are to Bridgman's hands

>>6403269
>>6403294
Gorgeous

Forgot to post this last night but promise I didn't skip

>>6404034
thank you, anon. Also, glad you didn't skip. Top right and Bottom left figures are beautiful

>>6404446
Thanks! I usually get at least one per page that looks okay to me, which is progress!

Some progress on a Bargue plate. Any feedback appreciated

Another 30 minutes of hands from Animation Keyframes

>>6404810
>>6405442
looking good, bros

>>6371064
kaguyuzu study

>>6405672
uwaaah amazing

>>6405672
Incredible

if anyone knows of any artists who are good at feet / specialize in feet, please hmu

So how do you reverse engineer colors/shading? I understand copying lineart, but colors seem a lot more advanced to break down.

>>6407435
im no painter, but i think value might be most important. Saturation and Hue come next

>>6407435
Use a colour picker and do colour studies.
Shading is just where place and emphasis the light and shadows

>>6407723
>>6408407
gutentag

>>6409318
Ohio

>>6409318
Servus, wie gehts?

>>6409550
thicc

>>6409550
you are getting much much better

>>6407723
woww you're very skilled!

>>6410610
I have a type
>>6410650
Thank you, it's funny you say that and then I have my biggest struggle so far. Don't know what about this one was so difficult for me, but oh well it happens, just means there's room for improvement!

Finally finished this Bargue plate. I can tell my value control needs work

Vilppu Drawing Manual Party is pretty lit! I owe Glenn my life

>>6410937
persistence is your strongest suit. It's amazing that I have watched someone completely copy through Bridgman on /ic/. probably one of the best things to have happened on this site

>>6411206
really accurate line drawings! You're right in that I think the tone could be a bit more even. Maybe use lighter strokes and build it up? You could consider drawing with charcoal, so you get those deep blacks. I heard they recommended you use vine charcoal for bargue

made the head too big at first

>>6411222
Thanks, just trying to do a step at a time
Your strokework has that free confidence about it, seems like you're getting more comfortable with it

>>6372710
When you are doing these studies do you paint zoomed out?

>>6371064
>realize that I'm worse at drawing than other things, due to patience problems while trying to draw and observe
>still don't want to stop doing it
Why is this happening? I feel like this otter.

>>6412869
well, watermelon is good for you!

>>6412880
Yeah, but why do I keep wanting to draw if it's hard to enjoy while I do it?

>>6413903
Because it's good for you.

>>6414388
i would slow down slightly, if i were you. some of the lines, especially the hatching, look sloppier than usual

probably gonna redo the hand on the right at some point

>>6411722
thank youu

got a pretty gud page of hands just now

Mike Mignola

Top left might be my most successful so far
>>6415417
I'll work on it

>>6416708
What a beaut

>>6416708
>>6416712
yes! you memorized it really well

>>6418345
Thanks! This one was a weird one

>>6418647
your corrections look really great, but the memory drawings are a bit rough. That might be a sign you're not constructing strictly enough. It might help if you go in with pencil first, then ink it with the ballpoint pen afterwards. You can use a kneaded eraser to lighten pencil lines an infinite amount of time. Even if you don't prefer it, just try it out a couple times and spend as much time as you need correcting yourself, you might begin to like it

If I don't sweat the details or shapes it's fun, but it's also not very good? Am I supposed to try to force these things or just do more?

>>6420389
maybe pick an easier subject, so that you're not just painting a web of shapes. A single banana or two might be better to start with

>>6420389
Try one piece of fruit at a time so you can focus on the shape and structure better. These really helped me figure out little tricks that make digital really gun. (its in photoshop but the concepts are universal).

https://www.ctrlpaint.com/lets-paint

Also, when im doing studies, and im happy with it, ill do a bunch of little quick versions to see if I can simplify my technique or figure out a new way that makes it easier for me. They arent meant to be perfect, they are more an exploration and testing of my technique and skills

>>6420392
>>6420423
Damn, drawing takes a long time. You're right that if it were just one banana it would look better, but then I'd have just one banana. How do I get fast?

>>6420487
we're telling you to pick just one fruit so you can get more out of your studies, so you can learn to render form. It's not about making a beautifiul piece of art, at this point

>>6420153
I think they're just rough because I'm not working big to small because I'm trying to hold the details in my head and vomit them out on the page. I need to trust that they'll come and like you said, nail the construction first.

Another Bargue plate. Tried out some charcoal like the book and another anon suggested. Not too confident in the results but also don't really know if I can push it further. Value control is difficult

>>6420153
Really honed in on the construction here and it turned out much better. I haven't even corrected it yet, just savoring the progress for now, really proud of it. Thanks for the advice anons and for calling me out when I get sloppy/lazy

>>6420392
>>6420423
How about this?

>>6423050
1000% improvement. amazing, really

>>6422774
if you could keep pushing in this direction that would be perfect. Clean lines, clear construction, good job

>>6422458
The tone is definitely a lot more even! The drawing is as accurate as always. I wish I had advice for laying down better tone transitions, but it might just be a matter of going slower and more practice

>>6423144
The problem is that both pictures took about the same amount of time, an hour. If I spent that level of effort for each fruit and the bowl, it'd take a lot longer.
>>6423050
>>6420389
Something tells me 6 hours for a fruit bowl is wrong.

>>6423163
I wouldn't worry about the time spent on anything. Just get the studying in and your speed will improve.

>>6423222
Ok, I'll start slowly taking on more complicated subjects. Should I keep painting or just make lines and move on?

>>6423336
All of this is entirely up to you. What are your goals? Do you want to be a painter? A figurative artist? I suggest finding artists you want to emulate and try to figure out how to get there

On break and want to spend some time doing studies. Im on CSP, what is the equivalent to a hard round brush?

>>6423620
If there's none you can DL some free popular brushpack from a popular artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9xVgAAeJM

>>6423144
Thank you! It probably is just a matter of practice/time. I decided to study the plates since I noticed I was always struggling with value/tone with other drawings and sketches

>>6423450
I want to become a concept artist, for personal purposes. I'm not looking for realism.

>>6425005
gj! hopefully the shapes are starting to become familiar to you, and you have to memorize less and less

>>6425791
Thanks! Some days are easier than others

>>6426945
good job bro

>>6424186
I don't know what it takes to be a concept artist, but I imagine perspective line drawings come first and foremost. (Environments, vehicles, props, costumes, etc.) If haven't already, you should check out Feng Zhu's channel FZDSCHOOL.

been neglecting my studies lately

>>6427321
Nice painting, but the proportions look a bit wonky. (Hips too small, head too big)

i got a question
does a master study need to be a 1:1 copy of the subject?
sometimes it irks and disappoint me in the end when i noticed my whole piece is different from the subject, especially when i notice some lines doesnt match, the angle is off, etc.

>>6427376
It feels really pedantic at first but you need be able to copy things exactly. When other artists do something successfully, the copying skill will let you figure out how to do it for yourself, so it unlocks a lot of learning to be able to do it right. You are already starting to get the even more important thing though, which is that exact copying forces you to develop your ability to see.

>>6427444
Oh, and if you want to copy: grid < sight size < comparative measurement, but their ease of use is basically the reverse.

>>6428337
Looks great, your inking looks fantastic

>>6428958
2/2

>>6427444
>>6427448
danke, anon

Progress on the next Bargue Plate. Decided to go back to using graphite and put more patience into the values

sorry for a decreased frequency in posting, i've been trying to get my ass into gear and start producing art for my portfolio, but i'll still post my studies here when i get to them

>>6428958
thank you <3

>>6429957
looking forward to seeing you finish the whole bok

>>6429957
are you the box anon i helped in /beg/?

>>6430036
Might take a while to finish all of them with my current schedule
>>6430055
No, I've never posted in /beg/

>>6430036
looking great anon

Question: I used to just do the schizo intuitive drawing thing and it worked out fairly well. However, I've been doing things that people recommend like massing forms first, getting shadows down etc. before rendering, but the "magic" just isn't there while rendering like it is if I render it bit by bit along with value, shape etc. Is this just something I have to re-learn?

>>6430083
thank youu

>>6427321
back at it again

>>6430392
These value studies always look great in the thumbnail, so good job
>>6429957
Did you do Bridgeman before this lol

>>6430366
These are fucking beautiful Anon. I am so proud of you seeing and your progress with bridgeman. It’s inspiring

>>6430816
>Did you do Bridgeman before this lol
No, why?

>>6430830
He's also apparently only started drawing this year too, so I believe he's gonna become a really big name in the future if he keeps this up

>>6430830
>>6431383
Lol thanks guys, idk what to say

>>6430392
very beautiful

crappy Rubens copy

>>6436813
>crappy
False

>>6431161
Oh it just looks sort of blocky like the Bridgman figures. You have the right idea in schematizing the block in but it needs to be a little more accurate. The values also look like they're done visually despite the planarization, so the dimensionality gets reduced. Speaking of values, this is a total pain but you should try to clean them up more. Literally sharpen your pencil to the finest point you can and fill in the little white dots on the paper, then go in with a kneaded eraser and pick out all the spots that are too dark. It'll be a huge pain in the ass but it will make your shadows especially look way flatter and give much more the illusion of depth, reality, and completeness.

>>6437423
If there's a pic with clothing are you supposed to still try to block it out as if they were naked first?

>>6437750
No, you're trying to think visually about massing in shapes within an envelope.

>>6436813
even if you think this looks crappy i think it's interesting to look at, like its fun to just look at all the lines and stuff you drew

Is hatching a technique I can skip? I can paint things in the normal way but when I try to hatch it becomes aggressively bad.

>>6437823
Actually, if it's something I can't do, then it's a weakness and I probably have to fix it. Normally I'd just put different greys and blend a bunch. I knew this was going to happen, so the shitty hatching is on another layer, how do I unfuck it?

>>6437871
>>6437794
Also, started drawing before I got an answer, my bad

>>6437871
You practice it like everything else. Learning to make good contour lines is a skill, it needs to be trained.

>>6437823
You don't need to hatch in your drawings but you do need to understand what makes hatching successful. Basically, feel the forms.

>>6438569
An attempt was made.
>>6438737
I'm going to try a little bit, and if I can't figure it out I'll just paint everything to finish off instead?

This one was really tough

>>6439381
i know it's just your correction, but i find the one on the right to be absolutely amazing. It's wispy and whimsical

>>6429957
based fellow bargue plate anon. i've been trying to go through some since i've been drawing on a screenless tablet i got yesterday and i can tell that even though i'm still extremely /beg/, not having the hand-eye coordination for "see cursor -> see where i want the cursor to go -> move pen horizontally to place cursor where i need it to go" feels like i'm starting from step 1 again

>>6440139
i could never get used to screenless tablets

>>6439702
Thanks, man, really. I've been really discouraged lately because the memory drawings are so fucking rough. But I have to remind myself that memory drawing is fucking difficult, there's a reason "he looks like if someone tried to draw X from memory" is a meme, and that my drawings from reference are improving. Hell, comparing that quick correction sketch to me painstakingly trying to copy it a few months ago, I really have made some solid progress, even though it feels like I'm back at square 1 sometimes with these memory drawings. Merry christmas anon

Finished the plate before Christmas, just now getting around to posting. Tried out a blending stump on the top cast but not sure it really did anything.

>>6437423
Thanks for the advice! I consider myself pretty /beg/ so most of what you pointed out is my lack of skill. Hopefully it'll get better with more practice. I am a little confused about what you mean with the values of planarization though.

something from today
>>6411735
late response but yes.

>>6441690
Looks great, all hrb?

another bargue plate. normally i tend to be too light with my values but here i feel that i'm overly dark which is especially visible with the index finger which should be visibly lighter compared to the other fingers, although i quite like the dramatic darkness to it. the triceps are also too spiky which i didn't notice but that may be because i was running out of time to submit for /dad/. overall i'm happy with it, especially since i felt that i was pretty accurate with the outline at least and didn't need to do a ton of corrections compared to past studies

>>6437027
>>6437819
thank you

>>6441144
>>6441690
>>6442084
>>6442100
good work frens

I love chet baker...

>>6442084
How are you studying Bridgeman anon? I was able to find three of his books for 4 bucks each at my local used bookstore and would like some insight on how to go about studying them

>>6443591
He's following this guide

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

Would still love to hear his thoughts on this process though

>>6441690
todays study

Something is still kinda wrong, but this is an improvement over the last one.

>>6443802
Are these from real life ref or from images on screen?

>>6443824
photo ref

>>6443802
It's not really clear to me what the thing in the middle is supposed to be. It looks like a levitating brown sugar cube to me.

>>6443597
My thoughts are that it's hard as fuck lol
Finished the first section, which I guess is his first volume
Not much to it but to do it, I guess. Believe me I wish there was a trick to it lol. Having done Hampton before really helps since he illuminates a lot of what Bridgman is doing.

drew these pony dolls i have. pretty difficult, i'm not really used to drawing real life and i couldn't get them to be still on the notebook.

>>6444954
Pretty cool.
Next time think some more about the kind of shapes you to have for light/shadow. You don't have to follow what you're seeing exactly.

These kinds of posts are cool and all but isn't /msg/ supposed to be master studies specifically? Not just photo studies or life studies.

>>6443802
another study today
>>6444536
it was a small bit of cake a piece sitting on the rim of the glass.

>>6445822
your brushstrokes are so beautiful

>>6445822
>>6445959
Agreed

Starting necks from memory

Back on my bridgeman grind

Almost embarrassed to post this one. I think the lay in is fairly good though it did give me some trouble. As for the values, pretty unhappy and considering redoing the whole plate again. Any suggestions on how to practices shading on the side would be appreciated

>>6446875
This looks pretty good, it would be helpful to have the ref next to it to judge accuracy though. Are you working sight size?

>>6441690
>>6443802
>>6445822
Any suggestions about how to get started to this?

>>6371064
I did pic related as a full size single layer digital master bastion in like February.

Put like 15 hours into it I think? Which at the time was out of like a planned 40 hours. Sargent spent like a year on his giant version so I figured giving it a work week would be fair. And then I didn’t even do that lol.

Should I keep working on it now that I’m back into being unemployed or should I leave it as is as a monument to my lazy hubris?

Also the tiddy thing is a referenced to how he originally painted her with her with her shoulder strap falling off her shoulder and it was deemed scandalous 130 years ago or whenever and he was forced to repaint her strap.

>>6447644
hopefully you've improved a ton since February. Try redrawing it from scratch!

>>6445822
peach study
>>6441690
I just do 30-60 min studies whenever i can to practice rendering. nothing special, just a year off and on milage.

>>6447912
meant for >>6447616

>>6447644
Keep it as a reference point I think. It'd be best to work on new things and retroactively learn about what's wrong with this one through new experiences.

>>6449212
>>6450798
>>6452456
this part of the book is getting easier, isn't it? Hopefully, when you're just doing bodyparts, the memorization goes easier, and you'll see how consistently Bridgman uses certain sets of lines

I'm a /beg/ trying out a 1 year program to improve my skills.

In January the focus is on gesture drawing, one point perspective and master studies, so this is my first try at a master study.

>>6453203
It would be helpful if you'd post your reference too.

>>6453208
It's by Michelangelo, found it on the first page og drawing from The Louvre, but can't find it now, but I a can post it tomorrow.

I'm very new to all this studying drawing in general, so I don't really know which artists to learn from, I just rolled the dice and picked something nice.

>>6452976
In some ways it's 10 times easier in other ways it's 10 times harder lol

>>6452976 #
In some ways it's 10 times easier in other ways it's 10 times harder

>>6453208
>>6453237
>>6453203
Here you go

>>6453388
>>6454301
>>6455062
good work frens

>>6457142
Nice hands, where are they from?
>>6455715
Looks nice

>>6457210
thank you! those hands are from the Vagabond manga by Takehiko Inoue. Just tryin to expand my reach atm

>>6447912

>>6458305
you're so goddamn good

>>6458305
From life or photo? Looks great

I decided to do a study on my favorite artist, and one main thing I noticed and haven't been able to replicate is how "consistent" he is with ink thickness when doing certain areas.


I used >Krita's, Basic size / pressure pen, and my weights are so far off his.
After finishing my study I can only assume he is using a pen with no line weight? And changing it depending on what area he's working on? IE see the hair fringe vs the overall contour vs the hand thickness.
Is this the correct assumption?


I would gladly appreciate the input from anyone with a more trained eye then this 3 month beg (even about things not related to this that I should be aware of), that was the "main" crucial thing I noticed that I know I'm not doing currently.

>>6458305
What brushes do you use anon? Or what would you recommend for a beg. I've been wanting to start practicing with digital painting

wip

>>6458305
>>6458968
great as always

>>6459532
feel free to use and abuse whatever tools you need. Pros have lots of brushes they switch between

>>6458305
another one.

>>6458487
>>6460834
thank you

>>6458968
that was a master study of painting. I like to mix things up by working from painting from time to time.

>>6460082
As a beginner, you should master the round brush with pen pressure if anything without it you're just sitting on a bunch of fancy tools you can't take advantage of. but dont just get one round brush with pen pressure and expect it to be good out the box, test out opacity and flow/ brush density and other round brushes till you find something that really feels natural in your hand ( a good brush will feel like butter and you will be able to blend without using airbrush/ blend tools)

to start I recommend these simple brushes it's what i used when i started and they got me used to rendering and i still use 'round' when rendering.

https://www.ctrlpaint.com/brushes

Ctrlaltpaint is a good site to teach you how to render as well, give it a look.

>>6460835
I really gotta learn to render glass, gorgeous.

phoneposting bargues lol

>>6461946
Good shit

Another plate done. Still really struggling with the values. Especially gradients and halftones

>>6461946
I'm jealous of your value control anon. Any advice for practice? I'm always very frustrated with mine

>>6460835
1hr masterstudy

>>6462681
gorgeous colors and those grapes look good enough to eat, like little gemstones.

>>6462856
And a study of Ajax and Cassandra by Solomon

>>6462222
His appears more contrasted for sure, but real life lighting is different and you two might not be using the same paper and pencils.
So with that in mind I think you're doing well really. At first I thought it was the same anon until I read your comment.

>>6462222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c78STfZM0qw

>>6462858
good shit

>>6464134
Thank you

>>6371064
study the riesun design

>>6464793
>>6465305
good shit

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