/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6391564
ANOTHER ai thread. Please just fucking kill yourself. This board is for artwork/critique.

>>6391564
Didn't read.
Fuck you and mods of this shithole.

>>6391572
>This board is for artwork/critique.
Lead by example, post your work.

>>6391572
>>6391564
/ic/ is about art and related discussion.
Also its crazy to see how the newer models went from terrible coherence to well near perfect hands.

I'm not worried because I'm a trad artist but I am concerned about the over supply of work. If AI art becomes more localized.

>>6391564
Just draw already anon

how about let ai fuck us in the pussy, OP >w<?

>>6391564
>make a thread
>get deleted by mods
>make another thread
>barely any reply
>make another thread
I honestly suggest to kill yourself

>>6391575
Kill yourself.

>>6391580
AI plagiarized images are not artworks of any sort, and have nothing to do with this board.

/g/ is a bad example since they're hellbent on accelerating the paradigm shift.
AI art at it's absolute best tends to be generic enough that you might skip on it without the novelty that it was AI generated. And even when it looks unique, the thing with AI art is that there's no secret behind its creation or any meaning to its expression. You just type the prompt and get a gatcha roll approximation. Nice if you're a consumer but pretty shit if you're an artist or art appreciator.

Again, /g/ acts in bad faith, they likely do this to make artists 'seethe' or make them 'get a real job' or whatever. People with shit aesthetic senses will still be people with shit aesthetic sense even with the AI boost. A nice looking AI image can serve as inspiration for drawing... or improving the AI model. /g/ are anarchist terrorists who don't care about actually manifesting your inner mind into an image so long as you get a cool image to consoom over or make /ic/ anons seethe or whatever.

>>6391564
Ai fuck me in the asshole. (^_^") oh!

>>6391572

AI art is art though.
AI is just a new method of creating it. AI threads are discussing art creation like any other thread that discusses mediums. What makes a something a work of art is the output and intention, not how it was made.

Currently /ic/ doesn't consider ai art as legitimate. But eventually it will be indistinguishable from things made by hand, and then the board will be forced to accept it. Because everything is anonymous here, there's not going to be a reliable way of knowing if a piece was made by ai, or if ai was used for the piece in some significant way (e.g. photo bashing, trace over). This might already be happening in some cases, but you wouldn't know it.

>>6391607
>AI art is art though.
No. Clicking a button is not making art, just like commissioning an artist doesn't make you an artist. Kill yourself.

>>6391607
kill yourself techie, go cum somewhere else

>>6391607
>What makes a something a work of art is the output and intention, not how it was made.
Changing times change definitions.

>>6391607
If that was the case you wouldn't try to seek validation spamming AI threads on this board all day every day.
But not only that you're so fucking pathetic you need to make demoralization threads on other boards >>>/p/4104126 (even on half dead ones)
That being said hide, sage and report AI threads and jannies do your fucking job.

I kneel to AI, spare me when you decide to kill everyone opposing you of making art

>>6391564
let me guess, two more weeks? i'm still living the dream dummy :p

>>6391611
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I've been on this board for 7 years, I'm passionate about drawing, I'm not super happy about what's happening either. However at the same time I'm trying to be grounded in the reality of what's going on. Our methods of drawing are just that; methods. Tools. There's nothing sacred about any one method, what matters most is the result it achieves. In fact if a method produces lackluster results, we usually see it as bad or inferior.

There is AI art that is close to direct plagiarism, because of how heavily it might use a specific artist's style. It is easy to see how those pieces could be illegitimate. But what about the pieces that aren't in this camp, that are genuinely producing something new?

Real talk, what is your personal definition of art? If you went to an art gallery and saw a piece on the wall that looked flawless, provoking and inspiring, would you suddenly not think it's art if you found out it was made with AI?

>>6391633
Ignore the retarded zoomers/millenials, they think nothing will change just like when digital art didn't change anything in the commercial and entertainment art world

>>6391633
Clicking a button is not a "method", it's automated plagiarism. Please just go away, go to /g/

This thread is literally copypasta, mods can you do your fucking job? what's all that salary for?

>auto-sage
Remove the thread you fucking cowards.

>>6391607
>But eventually it will be indistinguishable from things made by hand

But you will never have a time lapse of its creation.
You will never have the enjoyment of actually drawing or painting something and eventually liking its outcome.
You will never have that moment where something clicks in your brain and you unlock a new feeling of skill and fun which then gets normal then you keep going until you get to that next brain click moment.
You will never draw or paint from life in real time or even just sketching random objects or things from imagination (and doing it the first time)
You will never spend all night working on your images (key word being YOUR)
Just mind numbing instant gratification with no real reward because you don't even really own your images, and anyone else could take it for themselves and there is nothing you could do about it.
Much like how the devs stole all those artist names and such and now have to deal with that but with no hope in your case.
You will never actually create anything without a soulless machine assistant and its visual library that you will never possess in your own brain.
You will never be a real artist, and i will never accept that you are.

>>6391643
Please don't feed them.

>>6391621
>AI photography
Why go to special events or exotic places and immortalize your experience in them with photographs, when you can generate an AI photograph that is many times cooler and exotic.

AI slop is the ultimate gift for subhuman basement NEETs incapable of anything but consuming. Failed humans wishing for singularity upon everyone else when by every natural law they themselves deserve to be euthanized.

>>6391607
For what it's worth, I agree that AI art is art, but I don't really care about that. "Art" is such a nebulous, meaningless and empty concept that it's pointless to categorize something as art or not.
>>6391633
>Real talk, what is your personal definition of art? If you went to an art gallery and saw a piece on the wall that looked flawless, provoking and inspiring, would you suddenly not think it's art if you found out it was made with AI?
Absolutely. Because the human experience is important. I would immediately think less of the piece and it would instantly be rendered uninteresting. What makes beautiful art made by a human special is the amount of time and work that goes into it.

>6391632+1
It has vibe as AIfag impersonating oldfag

>>6391665
most likely.

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>>6391617

Hmmm, my take with this sort of thing is that it's usually a matter of the technology not being able to keep pace yet. Basically the reason that artist hasn't seen a big hit is because the manufacturer can't properly replicate it.

There'll probably be a market for human-made goods even if they can be manufactured flawlessly. But I don't think that automatically detracts from the legitimacy of manufactured goods either.

>>6391621

I'm not OP or whoever that is.

>>6391665

Nope. /ic/ is becoming so hostile to AI discussion now that I think it's going to hurt a lot of people on this board in the long run. They're going to keep getting surprised and caught off-guard by improvements because they're putting their heads in the ground to make themselves feel comfortable. You know people are getting emotional and starting to block out ideas in their minds when they instantly resort to ad homs in discussions.

>>6391663

This seems like a decent take. My only worry is that it's not going to be the mass-accepted one. Even if artists themselves take a humanist stance, I'm pretty blackpilled and think the only thing that'll matter is the collective definition.

>>6391564
>>6391607
Diksheet, I am going to add toilets to all my paintings of anime girls floating in voids and there is nothing you can poo to stop me

>>6391700
>Nope. /ic/ is becoming so hostile to AI discussion now that I think it's going to hurt a lot of people on this board in the long run. They're going to keep getting surprised and caught off-guard by improvements because they're putting their heads in the ground to make themselves feel comfortable. You know people are getting emotional and starting to block out ideas in their minds when they instantly resort to ad homs in discussions.
What would you have this board do? Welcome AI with open arms? Might as well delete the fucking board at that point. People come here to get better at drawing and painting, not have AI trash shoved down their throats.

>>6391700
>Nope. /ic/ is becoming so hostile to AI discussion now that I think it's going to hurt a lot of people on this board in the long run
What is there to discuss? SD has already been nerfed and private for-profit AI services can be crippled by copyright in the future. Neither of these can stop /g/ niggers from chewing up art communities as if they're termites. We'd be moving away from AI discussion and back into debates that imageboard users are subhuman faggots.

As new technology disrupts the arts, the definition of what art is also changes and evolves.
Assuming any AI takeover *does* occur, we will likely see the art world divide into different parts. Art as a craft, art as a means of personal expression, and art as a means of production. Whether art as a craft is profitable or not, i don't know. Maybe it can be some kind of sport.

>>6391747
*By "means of production", i mean most art made for commercial and business purposes

>>6391633
pyw

Instead of repeating the same arguments pro or con AI art, I think it's interesting to think about how it will change the art market.

Illustration, I think, is by far the most heavily impacted field. However, I do think a very interesting development will happen here. Now that illustration is incredibly cheap, I do see that, while book cover illustrators will likely get fucked the hardest, I do wonder if there will still be a market for "AI illustrators". With the speed and relatively cheapness of AI compared to traditional illustration, I see that in the future we will see a genre of AI-illustrated literature, with AI used to heavily illustrated books of all types.

Concept Art will be heavily impacted, but not disappear. Professional artists will probably still be heavily needed to create model sheets for characters, unless the AI can learn to create coherent designs that can very accurately maintain their proportions, shapes and coherence in a turnaround and model sheet.

Art Directors will be least impacted, but they barely even did any drawing or painting in the first place.

Comics is the most curious field. I'm sure there are a lot of comic artists looking at this tech with great interest, especially if it means they can get rid of their colorists and assistants and simply have AI color their drawings for them in the future. Or if AI gets good enough that it can retain a character design in action poses and the like (I have heavy doubts, especially with diffusion-based AI), they can focus entirely on storytelling.

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>>6391644
Good morning sirs.

I may have been using to create AI threads all over 4chan and people still keep eating the bait a month later

>Concept Art will be heavily impacted
what did he mean by this

>>6391810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzgDRecu0IQ
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