/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>[Kaworu Kasumi] Drawing Robots.zip (46 MB)
https://e-hentai.org/g/2361436/91afcc5c66/
https://www.mediafire.com/file/s52uopay5wub309/

>[Kaworu Kasumi] Drawing Robots (English AI translation).zip (161 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jqo0jt76efasqdn/

>How To Draw Transforming Robots(2012).zip (76 MB)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1659533/f3bed14f27/
https://www.mediafire.com/file/91cn7d3yskiw9xh/

How do you learn to feel the form? I kinda want to draw Gundams. Or Getter Robo.

>>6389190
Okawara basically draws them like people iirc. Everything else is blocking out over the human form

>>6391388 checked
Hot

>>6391388
After viewing this intimidating sketchwork, I almost gave up on posting this, but then I thought "screw it" and decided to go ahead.
These are concepts of airships for the characters in >>6391746 , i wanted to give them a retro look, so I took inspiration from 1930's and 40's automobiles, spaceships from sci-fi pulp covers and also WWI submarines. The idea for these ships is that the hull structure is built mainly AROUND the balloon instead of just on top or underneath, the balloons would obviously be filled with a special type of gas that isn't helium.

>>6389157
motherfucking 12y/o car design autists are far superior to me in terms of rendering. the rendering is an important skill. time to start practicing.

actually I have a better idea. I will tell everyone how I'm going to start practicing, then I don't have to practice.

>>6392717

>>6392721

>>6392452
you are drawing in strict isometric and it looks stupid. Exaggerate your perspective more. You already do this with your dumbass furries, probably subconscious because you are more comfortable drawing that subject matter.
what's the point of explaining your whole life story with every post? shouldn't it be obvious what the inspiration is from the drawing itself?

>>6392713
maybe do linework before you try to render?
learn to construct a proper plane first

>>6391388
good fucking numbers gotta admit
ill finally finish studies in 2 months
gotta draw some engineering stuff, or ill lose the ability to hand draw entirely
lost so much gains during those 4 years of almost 0 drawing, its quite painful

This one was obviously inspired by the Netflix show 1899, I really liked the dark aesthetic of the ship.

>>6393674
After some time, I decided to draw a larger version of the ship with some more detail.

>>6389032
mech design tutorial link is empty, anyone got a new one

>>6392867
>>6392713
Good luck with your studying, anons
>>6392452
Definitely looks retrofuturistic, middle left has the best shapes for that classy car look, but it doesn't feel enough like a blimp imo. The actual balloon seems to small compared to the hull to read as a blimp, maybe shift the proportions a bit

>>6396557
>>6392835

Here are some robits I drew

>>6401012

>>6401012
>>6401013
good practice

>>6392452
I expanded further with the airship design and decided to move away a little from the typical blimp design.

>>6401012
great use of perspective, great values on the one on the right.
left one, you use the darkest values only for the occlusion shadows on the torso. the one on the left looks unfinished -- no wrist actuator, no shadows.
mechanical details, effective use of values for on the stamped leg pieces and the access slots.

>>6392452
the coachbuilding inspiration is the most effective element you used. The airship thing is not effective. It doesn't look light or large enough to hold gas, and it'd just tip over because there's no stability. It doesn't read like an airship at all, as opposed to antigravity or any number of other things.

>>6404453
I agree, I prefer the coachbuild over the traditional cigar-shape, but I feel the cross-section is too narrow and so I want to add some "padding" similar to the old world war submarines. I'm also studying the volumetrics to the steering pontoons.

>>6403929
Exploring further with airship concepts.

>>6404956
Tried a perspective drawing, but it didn't turn out very good.

i drew a brobot in oc the other day :)

>>6407589
Nice work as allways

>>6410215
thanks pal, nice inks as well

First two links appear to be dead.

ok /mg/ nice to see this thread being alive
im very occupied with drawing my oc`s but here are some mechs ive done
>>6391388
nice seeing you again, nice 88 gun, and fitting digits! im the train guy from the previous thread, i try to post some more this month, you are a good motivation to keep up the grind
>>6392452
>>6403929
>>6404956
>airships
cool to see other people drawing airships as well, i like the vibe, but looks too car-ish, its hard to read them, i will maybe post airships tomorrow, and experiment with your designs, they have potential
>>6393718
>>6393674
the ships are also great, but the smokestacks seem too far in the back, the boilers would be sitting directly over the engine, usually they are about midship

and some leg studies

>>6411610
>>6411611
>>6411614
Cool to see you back, and thanks. Any context for these krieg dudes? They're pretty cool, with the slender proportions and minimal armor plating.

Anyone got DL for these?
https://foundation-patreon.gumroad.com/l/wmEAj

>>6414674
they are utility mechas for hyprid warfare, in my comic / manga type thing
ive designed so they have a wide variety of movement to be able replicate the exact movements of their pilots and move quickly per foot in all kinds of terrain
and be useful in improvidsed attacks/ recovery missions etc, they basicly do what normal vehicles cant do or cant do quickly in battle

>>6420971
i wanted to post earlier but i got banned by gay mods

bump

Infrastructure and vehicles

>>6404956
i like the submarine aspects and tried to emphasize it in this design, maybe ill add some details soon

destroyer concept, more details will follow too when i got time

>>6425144
Wow! I love your take!
And holy crap, I had to go back to my previous drawings to make sure it wasn't an adaptation on something I already made, because it looks SO close to how I draw!
Again, really love your take and I'm happy you where inspired by my concepts!

>>6425264
>I had to go back to my previous drawings to make sure it wasn't an adaptation on something I already made
well, we do use inspiration from the same time period, so its only natural, i usually draw mine like pic related ww1 era dreadnoughts/ submarines combined with several smaller propeller gondolas on the side (like regular airships) also with the wide bulbous hull, in my setting the airships are floating with a secret anti gravity liquid in pipes that go through the structure.

>>6426814
>secret anti gravity liquid in pipes that go through the structure

you should make that obvious from the drawing. The overall layout is ok
(though the back horizontal fins should not be so close to the rear "leg" fins)
>>6425144
but the hull looks just like a regular hull. Show pipes or... something to differentiate from regular hull. It looks particularly bizarre to have the canvas and wood fins coming out of heavy iron/steel/whatever.

also... why does it have regular ship screws?

>>6428290
>It looks particularly bizarre to have the canvas and wood fins coming out of heavy iron/steel/whatever.
they are iron, on both of my designs, the lines are segments, but i can see why one could think they are made out of canvas
>also... why does it have regular ship screws?
because its also works as regular battleship if none of the anti gravitational fuel is available, the flight mode cannot be sustained forever too, because of the liquids properties (has to be kept at a certain temperature and mixture with gases to work/ overheating issues etc.)
>Show pipes or... something to differentiate from regular hull
i think its pretty distinctive from regular battlesip hulls, but i guess it could use more details, proruding pipes arent good for hydro/aerodynamics though., the fuel is highly explosive/hard to obtain aso it wouldnt be smart to have them visible, they are housed behind massive super thick armor plating behind the bublbs under the steering propeller arms, most of the magic is on the inside, like massive stabilising gyroscopes, special pipes and motors for the outside propeller gondolas.etc
also pic relatd are some earlier versions and a regular battleship

wip

>>6404453
How do I get started with hard surface stuff like this? Not necessarily mecha, I just want to draw sci fi stuff.

>>6429268
nvm I thought up a good way to get started. My issue is my visual library so I'll be studying sci fi props.

>>6429268
collect reference material, and unironically grind boxes, zylinders and more complex forms

>>6429307
that's the plan, thanks

thought this one was pretty fun

It is fun, with that linework it is already rumbling away. You didn't draw the front part engine with the correct depth, nor the number plate.

>>6431320
for
>>6429384

>>6429305
that is just 9,000 hours of linework. He probably ctrl+Vs it into scenes before adding values on another layer, it's completely flat lighting as is. How this is supposed to help you with hard surface, I have no idea.
I shall re-shill scott robertson, obviously this technique is proving effective in my case.

>>6431356
I said my issue was visual library not construction or perspective, dude.

>>6431763
>construction or perspective
Ok, I conflated the issue by posting the wrong book. It's the first book in the series, the second book covers the rendering method(s) I'm studying.
>My issue is my visual library
I don't understand what you mean by this. To me this means, you don't know how to render primitives, or for more advanced artists, you don't know how to communicate certain materials. How are you supposed to fix that by studying sci-fi props? If you study props you're learning about design, worldbuilding, technology. How is that related to hard-surface. Hard surface has little to do with prop libraries.

>>6432532
bump, saged this but shouldn't have

>>6420971
>>6420972
Ah, they're built to closely replicate the movment of the pilot and have human-like on-foot agility. Fair enough. The large size (31m) and slim build is work together well, especially with the minimalistic armor.

>>6389032
robit

big stinky

>>6434724
pee pee

>>6434726
Poo Poo

>>6434728
hab robor

>>6434729
I stinky dumb cum man

>>6434733
oki one more after this then I fuck off

>>6434739
das it goodbye

>>6434647
cute and cool, i like both versions but the olive green is my favorite
>>6434726
are these your designs? if so they look very professional, great work

>>6434733
>CAUTION
entire robor very caution. why caution dildo arms? why have cautin arrow go front? maybe break windshields 1,00,00 m. away.

>>6434860
They are mine thanks
>>6435711
Idk man I just put funny shapes together

I should have done the thumbnails after construction not after shading. Not easyto change after pushing the values, I just gave up.

>>6435893
CAUTION: HIGH TEMPARTURE
Otherwise why draw caution only to spinning drills? If robot shut down then it would make sense to have caution there. Or, if the drills are underground, but it will still be obvious that the drills are turning because there would be dirt everywhere.

>>6434733
How does the tool changer even do anything? I guess it spins the arms around, the new drill falls down and then the back claw grabs the shank?

This was an idea I had for a Nutcracker character.

Rate my paintjob.

>>6436099
cool values, they work well, in the thumbnail particularly.

>>6436099
i think the bullets could use some more details and the front gun looks a bit janky

>>6436099
the colours look great though, i like the athmosphere

>>6436099
doesn't read very well. work on your values

>>6436008
based, reminds me of eggman robots

>>6439888
Thanks!
That's probably because of the grinning expression he has.

>>6439926
yes, also the stache and bulky joints, your characters feel familiar, as if ive seen them before but still original

camperbump
i will not let this thread die, especially not for uninspired ai shilling

im just gonna post some older trains maybe ill draw something today too

I shouldn't have to specifically request critique, that's already the point of the whole board.

>>6431320
>>6432538
after using the touchscreen, this thing is gonna need a lot more physical buttons and selector switches

>>6444825>>6444549
>>6444545
>>6444539
>>6444534
I'm assuming these are all from same person yeah?
I'd suggest more decisive lines, try to visualize what you want to put down before you do. Looks like you're familiar with drawthrough method obviously, but yeah there is some inconsistencies in the perspective, but the drawings major issue is the hairy lines, also once you have that down don't get lost in the details, make sure it still reads as the object intended from a distance. You could also try drawing some mechanical objects in a 3 point perspective and see how you do. Hope that helps although You've probably heard similar advice before

>>6435992
You've given the decal more thought than I ever do for vehicles lol I just put random shit where it feels nice.
>>6435996
I have no idea dawg

Look at this snail I made.

>>6404956
Another ship for the Earth Defense Fleet, this one is a mobile base.

A toy-like boy. I feel the need to put clothes on him.

>>6446139
>these are all from same person
>>6444825 isn't

>>6446139
all except >>6444825 are mine
>I'd suggest more decisive lines, try to visualize what you want to put down before you do
yeah these are just design practice i usually just dont bother cleaning he lines, i think when i can visualise the design its enough, finished drawings are obiously cleaner, see >>6426814 the hairy lines are lazyness to be faster, because im really slow when i want to place cleaner lines these arent really important when im just trying to put out as many designs as i can
>You could also try drawing some mechanical objects in a 3 point perspective
good suggestion, ill try some time
>You've probably heard similar advice before
im rarely getting advice actually so thanks, my entire drawing skill come from my own grinding, without help like books videos courses etc.
>>6446452
id suggest suspenders and really big pants or an overall,, if you feel classier, a vest with a shirt and fly

>>6432215
>>6436099
really great, you can improve it by adding a little bit more detail, but it's already excellent.

Forgot to say but this is the anon that asked OP to make a blog. Thanks OP, it's really helpful and I'm grateful about it.

>>6454532
link the blog

Got back into drawing, I plan on drawing a lot this year, kinda got bored of video games now. So I got an itch for drawing now. Hopefully forever. I posted a while back a tank, but right now I feel like I cant color since I kinda forgot, I am kinda okaying on how this turned out though the proportions are kinda off and its not in a "finished" state.

Bump

>>6436099
Very nice, love the feeling.

>>6455959
This is great so far, the way you stylize the treads is pretty interesting too.
That texture on the front is neat as well, how'd you do that?

>>6458574
I was toying around with threads and I got it to look decent, though the perspective is off.
As for the texture, I made Triangle pattern and used the bend tool or w/e in Kirta since I was trying to see how it would look, trying to go for that camo netting pattern thats pretty hard to draw, In the end it was just a test, since I was learning about using textures and what not.
The hard part about the treads is that it it looks off if the perspective is off. It took me a bit to figure out how shade these and show that they are treads on the track, but you need a good underline or if not, dont strictly follow the underline if you know the perspective is off. I could fix it but I moved on for this until I get some coloring practice in.

>>6454532
Glad I could be of help anon.
>>6455510
@mecha_archive twitter
>>6444545
these are cool, the battleship mech in particular.
>>6458574
also cool mechs

first time doing freehand drawing for mechanical stuff

>>6468094
Soul
i like your line strokes

>>6389032
As long as the mechanization have sense does it counts as valid?

>>6468779
You can post here too even if you just want a mechanical aesthetic, a lot of mechanics in modern media doesnt make sense anyway, just go for it

Mega link for the John Park tutorial leads to an empty folder.

Does anyone have this?

>>6475013
I got you homie. Bought this a year ago from amazon and converted it to a pdf
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4rxxtedqmsei6z7/Robot_Drawing_Basics_From_Box_R_-_Kyoryu_Kuramochi.pdf/file

>>6474134
What brush is that?

>>6476036
i dont think thats digital

This is an old one I drew when I was trying to elaborate my version of the powerpuff girls set in the 70s, the car is the real version of the one the professor had in the original show.

Some Car sketches

>>6475779
NTA, but thank you anon, looks useful!

>>6475779
Thank you very much!

How should an /int/ at drawing but complete /beg/ at machines get started? I feel so overwhelmed with how much there is to learn...

If you give me a curriculum I will post in this general a lot. I'll help revive this culture. I want to sci-fi manga, so this is mutually beneficial for both of us

For studying other artist mech designs, what's the best way to integrate them into your own?
Should I be thinking more of the contours/outline or trying to understand the shapes in a 3d space?

>>6479493
grind geometroc forms first, from cilinders to prisms cubes and when you feel confident in them, move to more compley forms, collect mecha artwork you like and other mechanical reference material

>>6476036
brown unipin brush pen
>>6479835
both have their own ideas to study but probably 3d shapes to start.

>>6479493
the book anon posted is actually a pretty good overview
>>6475779
john park also did a really good gumroad series on mech design where he goes into the joints and mechanics in a helpful way
>https://jparked.gumroad.com/l/Amlo?layout=profile
also it might sound retarded but building gunpla has actually been helping my mech drawings improve a lot.
it's sort of like building an ecorche but easier and at the end you have a cool reference model for life drawings

>>6480706
I've done thousands of geometric forms from studying Vilppu's drawing manual, so I guess at this point it's just drawing from reference. I wonder if there's a quicker way to retain stuff in your memory than just drawing it. (everything slips out of my mind)

>>6482705
I have John Park's course, but I never checked it out. I think I will start working on it. Also, when I"m good enough at Japanese, I'll study that book, thanks

>>6482756
you can get a pretty good sense of that book from the pictures alone desu,
enough at least to start practicing

>>6482764
maybe I'll treat it like Bridgman and just copy the pictures twice lol

>>6482756
>I wonder if there's a quicker way to retain stuff in your memory than just drawing it.
study mechanical principles then and expand your mental library of robotic features, details you want your mechas to have, look at real ife machinery and take inspiration from everyday objects

>>6483586
Good advice

how do i enjoy perspective? its boring as fuckkk

Newby to the hard surface/mech scene, can I get some links or names of artists who post work like this? Doesn't have to specifically be tiny vehicles, I just really enjoy the shape language. Also some insight as to what sites actually have artists like this to commission would be nice.

>>6491776
Or if this kind of design sensibility has a name I can use to look up more of it that would be useful. And I'm not looking for AI keywords, I already tried that route and current tech is genuinely terrible at competent looking hard surface, especially if you're looking for details that actually make sense and not just vaguely industrial shaped sludge

>>6494809
you should get a smaller brush pen anon, your stuff is good but those lines are a bit too thick which removes some of the fun little details which come from the knowledge of how everything comes together

>>6495417
Thanks anon, i agree about the lines, tho i don't think it's to fault of the brush pen, just me drawing to small and not using it right. Trying to get a better at clear detail.

>>6494835
cute

bump

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>>6486334
art featuring that design.

nice colorscheme, and overall cool dude, would draw him

>>6392452
>>6403929
>>6403929
>>6404956

This time I tried to create a Chinese airship.

>>6486334
>>6506381
Blog?

>>6510327
https://twitter.com/nemojona

>>6506381
>>6508378
here you go anon

>>6510952
Fucking nice, thank you anon. Blog?

>>6511084
https://twitter.com/mecha_archive, tho you allready found it. Have some Su25

>>6396557
>>6512155
holy crap anon are you on amphetamines? legendary just drawer

since were's talking about machinery. I'd like to show some tank art I did (also, should I show you some tank design i did for my webcomic project if wanted). Since i'd wish to get feedback on them.

For now, here's a traditional fanart for the Sentinel tank from the command and conquer generals "rise of the reds" mod (and yeah, that the dust was pretty shit)

>>6512170
Thank anon, kek. No doping, I draw less than i should actually

Bump

I wanna broaden my horizons and draw more fantasy vehicles and ships, but I've always been put off by all the details. Just cause all it takes are a few lines to not quite be in perspective and the whole thing turns to jelly instead a this solid, metal mass. Especially with cylinders, I always struggle with those and my tires for cars look lousy.

>>6516465
you been drinking krenz?

Highest IQ thread on /ic/

>>6519216
Just do it.
A lot of mechanical artists don't really draw everything in perfect perspective.
All that really matters is you get the biggest forms in the image correct, the details can be a little off and it'll still look good.
That being said you should still be striving to get better, just keep this in mind so you don't feel too discouraged along the way.

>>6521128
I should probably check out Krenz, now that you mentioned. Seems good.
>>6519216
I don't have any advice, but good luck anon. Have some ship (I know you probably meant spaceship).

>>6522291
What is this from

>>6523892
Knights of Sidonia

bump

Not very used to drawing robots, but I gave it a try anyways

>>6530217
>>6532343
really inspiring. You gave simple cars so much character.

>>6527763
Pretty cool design, anon. Have a piece of fanart

Why are the Advance of Z artbooks so rare nowadays; they're great reference material

>>6503847
Don't post AI slop in here you fucking faggot.

>>6544152
damn cool. Context?

>>6538132
thank you so much anon, love your perspective work as always

OP have you ever done a complete work besides your designs like you do here? Would be cool to see.

I consider myself more of a drawsmith, but not much of a painter, so I will give this a shot.

>>6389032
I'm done with the cylinders in drawabox so have gotten decent at the addition and subtraction to certain forms, I had the idea to build a gunpla but along the way draw my own manual. Just pop out each piece, draw it once from sight, draw it twice from imagination, rotating it, then adding that piece to the actual model, with a page for each completed part. So you would take a page for however many pieces, draw them, draw them fitting together, then draw the arm. I think it would be a hilarious autistic challenge no matter what but does this sound valuable at all?

>>6551295
onto the details now...

>>6551657
last update for the night.

>>6551846
This WIP? I'm sure you will clean up edges later anyway, but this look nice so far it good to see you do more things. Thank you this is very cool to see, sorry if it sound like I'm circlejerking or dicksucking but I genuinely like your art you maybe my favorite anon on this board really.

>>6551846
wow you really nailed the "3DCG with a toon shader" mech look

>>6549110
He was fun to draw. Do post, if you even make more mech designs.
>>6549124
Not much but recently i wanted to get in a comic of mechs beating eachother up, here's the first page, mostly set-up.
>>6551322
Doesn't sound like a bad study, even if autistic. Post it if you do it.
>>6551846
good stuff anon, do finish the study

>>6552417
Ah so embarrassing I mistake ac6 anon for you, comic draftsmanship very good so far I hope you add more values later to focus on action more, good to see you do more than your design pages. Ac6 anon study good looking forward to the details and clean up of his study

>>6552722
>>6552417
As a study, I think I'm done, this was a nice experience actually. I think I might prefer painting mechs vs drawing them, felt more enjoyable.
Btw I'm actually the same anon that did >>6436099 and >>6506381.

study 2 wip, this time with 2x res

>2. Anything that falls under the idea of mech/robot/vehicle

>>6556608
put on a noise filter and you nailed the retro look.

>>6558544
drew this frame before too. Good to see the edges are better defined

>>6561523
Just finished. Cant post full res here.

Any good examples for things more like DVA's mech?

I like the smallers more personal sized mechs rather than the gundam style big humanoids.
But I can only think of a few limited series that have mechs like that, maybe code geass but that feels more humanoid rather than something with this feel.

>>6563094
I can only think of the mechs from Nier Automata off the top of my head.

>>6563535
please dont post AI stuff here

>>6563752
Wtf??? No is ai

>>6564240
Anon, it clearly is AI, it has a lot of artefacts and nonsensical unsymmetric greeble

>>6564335
Damn people, it's not AI, I just used photoshop with the clone stamp, they're obsessed with that AI shit, they see it even at breakfast

>>6564570
You're not fooling anyone, retarded indian scammer. You know trolling is a bannable offense, right?

>>6564590
You are a sick black, you and your crab failure, if I wanted to upload shit, IA would go to /b, also it is noticeable from afar that if I were IA I would not have symmetry, nor filter cuts per layer, see how you are a fucking crab

>>6564595
Who are you trying to kid with the mushy eye and hair strands fusing together with anything they touch? Not to mention the feet and hands(obvs).

AI pajeets can't even touch up the machine's shit in photoshop.

>>6564651
it's not even that they can't touch it up, it's that they don't even have the eye to be able to see the mistakes in the first place

>>6564595
bloody benchod bastard

>>6564595
>>6564570
there is no way in hell that it was an artistic choice for you to draw two different size boobs on the robot to the right, stop being a faggot and just draw

Due to my current mood of drawing Plants vs. Zombies related things (>>6564383), I began to imagine what some of their vehicles would look like, this is one of a few sketches I drew for their airplane.

>>6565783
A few more experiments, then I felt like using non plane related shapes (pencil deawings).

i can somewhat comfortably draw at 3/4 view but frontal shit kicks my ass. they suddenly become flat and the symmetry rapes me

>>6565787
your isometric/perspective construction is not consistent, you should try drawing straight lines on a big piece of paper. try holding the pencil differently and moving the whole arm.
the helmet sketches on top are much better than the two on the bottom.

Bump

Will be back with this

>>6564651
I don't think it's IA, look at his linear stroke, the guy did a montage of lines per layer and it all cut out like shit, in any case that guy doesn't know how to use Photoshop.

>>6563535
>>6578719
yeah, if that's AI, I can't tell what's AI anymore. It totally looks like it was drawn.

I redrew a character I have for a story and I love how it turned out. Leagues better than my last attempt :D

>>6578630

>>6583141
>>6585366
>>6588039
>>6590826
are these all from reference?

>>6583141
as always great Detailed Work!
>>6593596
at least these 2 of them are from reference
>>6590826
>>6583141

>>6564595
It looks boring as shit
Don’t be surprised people think it’s AI
Go in the multiple coom threads. Don’t shit up the only good thread with your boring proompts

>>6594425
Danke anon, and yeah, that's correct.
>>6593596
All of these are from refference in the sense that they're a study of a real design. (besides the 1st on, that's the TransAm from Redline). Study as in, redrawing the design in different angles than the ref after getting the original ref. From top to bottom, they're: Redline TransAm, Yamaha yzf Frame, Cessna 404 Landing gear, and the Objekt 279 tank.

Have some squats.

Silly little mech I sketched up. It's piloted by an octopus.

>>6546781
gmi and cool stuffs, are those merkava?

>>6389032
suppose a fella were to try to into mecha. What's a good game plan for studying?

>>6595806
thats awesome! the Octopus Pilot is a nice touch!
>>6596563
collect reference material (real life machinery, hydraulics, construction vehicles, war machines Mecha Drawings etc) then try to copy and make your own details and designs, repeat process until you are satisfied with your results, its always good to understand real life machines if you want to draw fictional ones, but mecha artists are also a good source of inspiration because they are already very skilled at inventing interesting shapes.

>>6596121
Thanks, and yup, Merkava.
>>6596563
>>6596593
Good advice, don't have much to add besides, don't forget your cubes/fundies, for mecha in particular.

>>6549048
Neat

>>6598761
Thank you

>>6596994
>>6601683
these are so fucking cool. Do you do pencil sketches underneath?

>>6602229
Thanks men. Used to do some pencil underneath, but now I try to go straight into ink, for the sake of studying.

>>6596994
>>6601683
Cool studies aside, those are some really nice comps you have for the page layout. Do you thumbnail them out separately or it just whatever comes to mind?
Also curious as to how big you're drawing these.

>>6606569
Danke
>Do you thumbnail them out separately or it just whatever comes to mind?
Mostly doing it on-the-spot, but i do take some time to think about most of the angles i wanna do and where to put them on the page beforehand. (Unless i just line them up one after the other)
>Also curious as to how big you're drawing these.
Both of these are about A5, 1st pic is on an A5 sketchbook, the other is half of a normal printer paper. Other are a full A4

>>6606541
you are seriously good, keep this up dude

hi
Does anyone know books with blueprint references? any industrial blueprint books

a warming up after finishing some work

>>6608361
nice

>>6606829
That's pretty impressive, especially if you're going straight to ink - personally I usually have to thumbnail / block out rough comps first if I'm not just trying to fill the page. Was it something that came naturally over time or did you have to study/practice specifically for it?

>>6607101
will do, had to take a break recently
>>6607354
I'd be glad to see such stuff posted as well, regardless of subject matter
>>6610295
I see. I thumbnail whenever i really want to get a certain short or more gestural subject matter. But yeah, these study composition evolved naturally as i did them, simply because i was trying to keep the process dynamic and not too boring, rather than sticking to same lens width/same drawing size turn-around shots

上げる!

>>6607354
>>6610920
couldnt find any books ...i found this site. not all are free tho
https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/

Bump

>>6615169
thanks anon, remember this site popping up a bit when i was looking for some helicopters. Good stuff
>>6617881
Haven't done a train in a while

>>6621899
>>6618470
Hey, why do you keep doing different or absurd angles of the weapons? or like really err whats the term for like a very fishy eye effect? Is there a particular reason?

>>6621903
>whats the term
Wide camera angle. Fish eye camera is when the straight lines appear bent.
>why
For the sake of improvement/grinding. Tho you are right in saying i should practive normal angles too.

>>6618470
>>6621899
how does one get this proficient and good with perspective, machinery and everything else? how did you get to this point? just grind grind grind? right now when I attempt to draw machinery the outcomes are very poor and it is not a pleasant experience at all unless I go very crude sketch mode where I focus more on just outlines/silhouettes and then let my hand just semi-randomly draw in something to fill those in

>>6622683
>just grind grind grind
Yes, in short. I guess the biggest part is being mindful while you grind and focusing on getting it right, instead of doing it for the sake of it.
>where I focus more on just outlines/silhouette
I don't think that aproach is inherently flawed unless you completely lose focus of perspective and the major shapes

I don't really draw anything besides anime girls, but I've needed to practice other stuff lately. Something looks really off, especially with the barrel.

>>6624914
Probably because you dont have a consistent vanishing point I think. You should watch Modern Day's James tutorials on drawing vehicles.

work in progress, thought about posting it in salt.

>>6627333
Cute Nano

Not sure if it counts but its the top of a type-90.
A couple of questions...
>I do wonder how do you go about drawing faster. So how do you go about doing this? I had a undersketch that was pretty quick. But this line work was a lot harder.
>Machinery is a pain,I noticed my mistake was making the girl on the right too big (simple resize fix) but I got the perspective off so I cant really adjust it. So do you have your construction/vp lines throughout the image always on? I suppose that's what I was doing later in the drawing, trying to keep the same vp.
>But as I started doing the hatches and what not I mainly just eyeballed it. Is that the right approach?
>Finally, how do you render/paint.

>>6631348
The Vilppu Drawing Manual answers all your questions. Basic forms are the key to both machinery and human figures, and there are rendering chapters at the end of the book

>Try to draw a cutesy mech
>It looks like a fancy fleshlight
fuck

bumping with wip

>>6633887
cool shot, i like the girl's suit
>>6631348
the type-90 is a nice tank. Dunno bout those questions in particular, but yeah, clean linework/detailwork is just a matter of milage and/or taking it slow. You don't need the VP layer on necesarely, because at one point you learn to orient objects according to one another. (As in, look at one object and deduce the perspective/vps from it, and draw the others in the same perspective.) Not that I can do it consistently, but that'd be the ideea. Until then checking the underdrawing/vps seems reasonable.
>>6633841
Post it kek

>>6636396
It was just a doodle

>>6636913 looks funny but i dont see the Flashlight resemblance

>>6636913
Ah i see. Don't think it's that bad outside of the wires looking a bit too much like blood vessels.

>>6636396
>>6641774
nice

>>6645769
err blog?
>T-72M4CZ
Disappointing in this, not the style I wanted it at all and man, I hate tracks so much, I liked how I simplified the back but thats about it. I was trying to get it like Dutchko style.
It took longer than I wanted it to be too. I think it turned out okay but I felt I need to errr try to use my existing lines better as existing reference points? I kept comparing it to the ref image and I kept messing up.

>>6645896
Style I wanted to achieve.

>>6645896
>err blog?
https://twitter.com/nemojona
>Disappointing in this, not the style I wanted
Not sure what you tried to achieve but it doesn't look bad, albeit, unfinished. Your canvas looks more bigger than to your reference. I would allow myself to be more rough with the lineart in some places to fake details and shade with a textured eraser.

>>6645769
This one is nice. It's got a very 80-90s anime feel to it.
Somehow reminds me of nausica.

>>6624914
Agreed with >>6626286 in that there seems to be a perspective issue with the barrel foreshortening not matching up with the rest of the vehicle. Even accounting for the turret being rotated off-center from the body, the barrel's VPs should still match the same horizon line as the hull's VPs.
Other than that, you're also shading the barrel aperture as if it were a solid face, even though it is actually hollow. As such, the aperture of the barrel should show the inner wall (and possibly rifling), which would gradate darker as light becomes less able to reach the deeper parts of the gun barrel.
You could also use more controlled and heavier lineweight to better indicate the depth of forms. If you were to consider lines as a 3D object, they too would grow thicker the closer they get to the camera; Apply that same logic here and you can help give your linework a greater sense of depth.

>>6645769
i love morbius!

>>6645769
i liked the comp and the morbius vibes and did some kind of dytis :DDD

>>6648088
lmao, this is great!

>>6648088
Thank you anon, blog?

>>6648107
>>6648098
tyguys blog is fb/Impariamo a Disegnare and is kinda more shitposting than anything

bump

>>6650635
plz get a scanner for this much cool art

>>6654300
gonna buy one this weekend

bup

Oh snap page 10 again

>>6662180
Happens to the best of us
>>6659705
Cool brushwork

Fuck yeah. I didn't know /ic/ had a mecha general.
After doing pic related and finally start watching Gundam now I have the itch to learn how to draw proper mecha but I had no idea where to start. Thank God I found this thread.

>>6581850
Look at hands