/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Animation Books and Resources:

>Reference! Reference! (referencereference.com).zip (737 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/75jel951qk1xv39/

>bodiesinmotion.photo gifs 2022-09-10.zip (747 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c7xekwxw64gq31n/

>Pencil tests from Andreas Deja's YouTube channel (789 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/99v4wtjems7ohh9/

>Deja View siterip (Disney production art, sketches, and pencil tests) (6.20 GB)
https://mega.nz/folder/bCQWATAI#sn4YaZD2m1zoFkser2Pqwg

>incandescentdragon settei model sheets collection 2021-09-11.zip (4.42 GB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/n6kyq3dsb886864/

>Toshiyuki Inoue animation pencil tests (walks, runs, fire, water).zip (89 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/93opu3oun1whkoz/

>Short Animation Making Course - Naoki Yoshibe works.pdf (69 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ehagte0lj80n4ea/

>Short Animation Making Course - Naoki Yoshibe works (English AI translation, not gray).zip (297 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/w4rrqio8m5h08yc/

>Naoki Yoshibe sakuga animation video examples (96 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/clbtw4h1lh5fgtp/

>Naoki Yoshibe sakuga animation gif examples (30 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/56ucg1qdro6cj8t/

>Kyoto Animation Sakuga no Tebiki.zip (52.9 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hw7ffjsfnuwxa8p/

>Kyoto Animation Sakuga no Tebiki (English AI translation, not gray).zip (28 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/zs750j2hi9u0rcc/

>>6353892
>[Toru Yoshida] Yoshida Style! Sakuga of Anime Effect.zip (62 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e70ciafdt8ig9o3/

>[Toru Yoshida] Yoshida Style! Sakuga of Anime Effect (English AI translation).zip (228 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ffai75dtr6ndoks/

>アニメーションのエフェクト作画テクニック by Kazunori Ozawa_jpg.zip (48 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ez4xoyu4ukxu4py/

>アニメーションのエフェクト作画テクニック by Kazunori Ozawa_jpg (English AI translation, not gray).zip (260 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9i84sfhu1r9xal8/

>Effect Graphics Motion, Flow, And Texture Representation Catalog MDN.pdf (78 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/t5po6d5rcxla3wc/

>Effect Graphics Motion, Flow, And Texture (English AI translation, not gray).zip (203 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/if301p3vphlnb4p/

>Shingo Yamashita & Kenichi Kutsuna - Shin Sakuga book (新 作画).pdf (258 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bwmi5qs6ec766ay/

>Shingo Yamashita & Kenichi Kutsuna - Shin Sakuga book (English AI translation, not gray).zip (88 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/la9gzy2gu219lh0/

>[Tatenaka Junpei] Super Sports Dessin Kihon Hen.zip (194 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fxp8mmjk0pkv9a0/

>[Tatenaka Junpei] Super Sports Dessin Kihon Hen (English AI translation, not gray).zip (135 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/f82eshw73ogtoes/

>[Shinofusa Rokurou] Pose no Teiri - Theorem of Poses.zip (441 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hrv1uul5ah4o8qs/

>[Shinofusa Rokurou] Pose no Teiri - Theorem of Poses (English AI translation, not gray).zip (653 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ql0764abtx3n7hu/

>>6353893
>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Heroine Characters.pdf (48 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/p867655gluf87n1/

>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Heroine Characters (English AI translation).zip (150 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/k2jxjgwlow7mrak/

>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Muscle Characters.zip (36 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/j7z51r9b0i617i0/

>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Muscle Characters (English AI translation).zip (145 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ckkq2to5xxlphcb/

>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Battle Characters.zip (170 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/v741ccbs5ax84kv/

>[Junichi Hayama] Animators' Sketches - Battle Characters (English AI translation).zip (148 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/eyo28ksw72xxlnf/

>[Junichi Hayama] Anime Character Drawing and Design Technique [Digital].zip (47 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/zv4sh0abpp3a3uy/

>[Junichi Hayama] Anime Character Drawing and Design Technique (English AI translation).zip (163 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c5ndr71ojztcki2/

>>6353898
Artistic Anatomy Books:

>[Xiao Weichun] Human ANatomy For Artists.zip (43 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/i1lbpfa2gqimrx0/

>[Xiao Weichun] Human ANatomy For Artists (English AI translation, not gray).zip (344 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/xobelbbggq08t2k/

>[Xiao Weichun] 游戏动漫人体结构造型手绘技法.pdf (35 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/uh74hymunbvb34m/

>[Xiao Weichun] 游戏动漫人体结构造型手绘技法 (English AI translation, not gray).zip (394 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nqedd9dyekv8zbc/

>RockHe Kim's Anatomy Drawing Class.zip (113 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/vuaodlwnqyyg4s6/

>RockHe Kim's Anatomy Drawing Class (English AI translation, not gray).zip (1 GB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/j4febdvfrkes0xi/

>[Bong Choon Sik] Easy-To-Learn Human Body Drawing.pdf (54 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c7d20pk7oxl1m9n/

>[Bong Choon Sik] Easy-To-Learn Human Body Drawing (English AI translation, not gray).zip (203 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1hae05zik1dwen9/

>[Bong Choon Sik] Action Drawing.pdf (414 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3niwtb5mq7mkby5/

>[Bong Choon Sik] Action Drawing (English AI translation, not gray).zip (383 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/gaeao46egxuf5z8/

>Hands taught by Takahiro Kagami with all his might.zip (39 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzbojqxvrxvrn0i/

>Hands taught by Takahiro Kagami with all his might (English AI translation, not gray).zip (180 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/x7ahigmriab3bj8/

>>6353900
>Animator assignment collection (aja.gr.jp jigyou ikusei workbook) (animator_kadai).pdf (102 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/dvdyi21mwhjzv6k/

>Animator assignment collection (aja.gr.jp jigyou ikusei workbook) (English AI translation).zip (67 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/85psk4cj92myon5/

first!

>>6353958
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>>6353892

jesus anon, don't you know that one link can lead to many other links?

>>6354016
Blog?

>>6354016
that was good

>>6354042
Interlinked.

>>6353958
>[Sachiko Kamimura] Encyclopedia of Animation Basics.zip (207 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kuwxpmt70zoufg8/

>[Sachiko Kamimura] Encyclopedia of Animation Basics (English AI translation).zip (285 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/vaq5juvgrp9hafr/

>>6353669
4 New Ways to Practice Animation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hYtN46s-Lk

triying doing animation my first times

some waves

>>6354760
ew, worms

procreate is such a pain to work with on animations

>>6354700
That's very good anon.

>>6354277
>X-Men Evolution model sheets and pencil tests 2021-10-05 (363.37 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/m5ux1srcbau6ujv/

>>6355027
>Pearl Jam - Art of Do the Evolution (2020) (Digital-Empire).cbr (336 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/q40ob5rorqhrsim/

>>6355051
>Tina Nawrocki animation pencil test demo reel (Cuphead Animation Reel 2018) (vimeo 254787713).mp4 (28 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/sg45i4yea2q8v76/

>Cuphead pencil test gifs (Jake Clark) (85 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/yow0kz8d410rgku/

>Wakfu episode 40, The Voice Thief, Keyframes-20221102T054351Z-001.zip (37 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/milp8jrfm98eior/

>>6355108
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>>6353669


how many 'resource' replies does one thread need. i always thought you needed a certain level of autism to be an animator but this takes the cake

>>6355614
animation is really fuckin difficult, and lots of people tend to write about animation to make it more understandable to beginners and professionals. no single book will be able to cover every possible expression within the medium, so there tends to be a lot of useful resources.
having a ton of resources also allows a lot more flexibility and many different perspectives on how to approach it. the more resources, the better. you might learn something or find good advice about japanese animation production that winds up helping your workflow in another area

>>6355692
so put it in a one link sticky or something

>>6355755
>AI-Translated Artbooks and Animation Resources (12.37 GB)
https://mega.nz/folder/pKlmCTbS#tRCSh7hB7Xo6OQKFC85DcA

>>6355768

i ain't clicking that shit nigga

>>6355692

>the more resources, the better

book / tutorial hoarding isn't gonna make you a better animator, it's not THAT complicated, you're just trying to justify a retarded neurosis.

inb4 threads gets over-taken by shallow argument bots quick post animations

>>6355692
great comedic timing anon
good job : D

i tried doing animation in a more autistic and needlessly convoluted method
i drew every frame on oekaki on different layers and the used gifmaker to put it together
results were varied

There's always that one retard that likes to start shit.

>>6355755
>>6355784
>so put it in a one link sticky or something
>i ain't clicking that shit nigga
>
>>6355792
it's more about understanding the vastly different perspectives from other experienced animators. since animation itself changes so much from production to production, it's smart to educate yourself on different ways to approach animation. one resource may give really good advice on how to do incredibly intricate effects animation to shine and impress, but another may describe the pipeline's perspective and focus on the director's expectations

>>6355825
don't you find it just the worst thing when fat guys make their self insert OC look like a skinny twink?

>>6355845
Shut up, retard.

>>6355845
>>6355849

LMAOOO

don't reply
ignore him
do not feed the troll

>>6355876
what software is this?
it looks so cool

>>6355888
It's After Effects. Mask paths and a blockload effect.

>>6355885
you just did

>>6355692
fun stuff anon! blog?

>>6355894
the poster count didn't go up..

>>6355891
is there a tutorial for this feature?
i've got a an adobe license via my colege n i'd like to make something lke this

>>6355922
I don't believe there is a specific tutorial, but there are entire libraries and videos that guide you through the basics of after effects.

If you can grasp paths, keyframes, and simple stroke effects, you can make simple little animations. Some may argue this is more along the lines of /gd/, but the principles of traditional animation can still be applied.

Is TVPaint fine for illustration? I managed to get it for cheap (someone I know bought a key and didn't want it anymore) and I'm tired of flip flopping between programs
For reference I have csp and a pirated copy of photoshop (somewhere, I don't really use it)

>>6357292
It's alright, but it's more optimized for animation tasks. You'd definitely be better off sticking to CSP for any extensive illustration work. I use CSP solely for doodling but I also have a copy of TVPaint for all of my animation stuff. There's just stuff about drawing in CSP that TVPaint can't do that well, but there's lots of stuff about animation in TVPaint that fucking sucks ass in CSP.

>>6355801
>Doraibu (2011)

>>6357374
Gotcha, thanks anon
Also nice animation!

silly bump

dance : DDD

>>6357292

clip studio's brush engine feels quite a bit better, but after like a year of using it i went back to just doing all illustration stuff in TVPaint too, just because it's easier to do everything in one program. it doesn't feel like i'm missing out on anything from clip, it's nice to be able to use the timeline in an illustration process for easy 'checkpoints' to see if you're still on the right track with how the image is going. and the shortcuts / interface just feels more intuitive to me personally.

>>6358600
https://youtu.be/yY56Xyv5j8k
>"I love the conga!!"

>>6354792
I'd recommend rough animator instead for animation practice since it's workflow is better for that
Takes some tweaking and the default brush settings aren't great, but it's much nicer than procreate when it comes to actually animating anything

How do I copy the genius Yoshinori Kanada

Dear diary, these few days i strugled to animate multiple things, such as eyes tracking, motion with gravity force, and breasts bouncing. I think i must perfect animating of breasts and eyes, hair before even to try to animate full figure...

>>6358737
thanks for the advice. I might fiddle w/ procreate a bit more before buying another app though.

>James Baxter animation pencil tests 2022-11-04.zip (82 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/wgfxhqw2p095ede/

>>6357374
Jesus christ thats a masterpiece, how did you do it.

>>6358829
frame by frame

>>6359531
ayy thanks!
this was animated with a really simple technique. I drew out the first frame of all the debris in the air, and then just picked a random chunk and animated that single piece. when the piece finally stops moving, i just make a new layer set to hold the keyframe. then just rinse and repeat until all the individual pieces are animated. takes a long time but it makes it a bit more dynamic than just animating them all at once and accidentally making it look too uniform.

>>6359796
LOL, really? Its so smooth it looks like imported from 3D animation or something.

>>6353669
Dumb fuck question; any good/decent brushes for animation on CSP? I enjoyed the default brushes for TV Paint, but I can't find anything with sharp looking extures in CSP. Everything comes out all so fucking soft on CSP it makes me very angry.

>Setteidreams model sheets and gengashuu collection (exhentai) 2022-11-05 (90 files, 1.64 GB)
https://mega.nz/folder/IKsyVISA#Di3vXx8Ke99OJ9JW_vE9sg

>>6353669
Why all the books? There's tutorials on youtube.

>>6361373
No one is forcing you to download the books. I don't know why people here are complaining about me posting animation references on the animation thread.

anyone here know good free sites/software to render image sequences into gifs?
been using ezygif but they dont provide frame rate customisability

stuff like pic related would def benefit from more tweaked frame-rates

>>6361475
>>6361478
just use sai animation assistant

>>6353669

>>6361475
>>6361478
you can use fire alpaca (right click on a folder/image to set frame length), kdenlive, or shotcut (kdenlive and shotcut are video editors with gif exports)

>>6361809
i forgot to mention in fire alpaca you need to set animation mode under the animation menu. i checked again and its clicking the gear on the layer/folder, not right click.

>>6360346
why are you moving yo CSP?

>>6361471
because they don't need to be as retardedly spammy as you're making it, just make a mega link and post it once or in the sticky.

>>6361921
>spam
This thread averages 6 hours between posts. You can handle it, retard.

would you say you need to be atleast average at drawing to be able to do fine animation?

>>6361962
If you're doing 2d yeah you need to have an understanding of space/form, unless you're doing really abstract stuff.

>>6361952
so you just gonna make 20 posts linking to different books per thread? sounds like optimising would be doing you a favour dumb-ass

>>6361962
what you animate is only gonna be as good as you can draw. but you can learn both at the same time, animating does help improve your drawing, and trains you to draw and think about drawing 'like an animator'

>>6362076
You're not doing anyone favors, moron. Now shut the fuck up.

>>6362105
>You're not doing anyone favors, moron. Now shut the fuck up.

dumb walk

>>6355792
>book / tutorial isn't gonna [headcanon] trying to justify [buzzword]
post your animation if it's not so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWYpy8x_CZU

>>6353669
how does he get his line boild so good bros? I try tracing over my lines but it doesn't look nearly as good as this, is he using some tools to do it for him maybe?

>>6362663
sorry i meant to say line boils*

>>6362663
constantly flip between your frames as you draw and you'll know instantly if a line is boiling how you want it too.

https://youtu.be/xnFzPxhEFDM
bumping with a classic

>>6362387
This is a great loop, thank you for sharing.

>[Mike Mattesi] The Force companion_ quick tips and tricks [Digital].zip (61 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mw5cy6kzak4l6bs/

>[Mike Mattesi] Force Companion Sketches.zip (25 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/npk7txn52fden2e/

>>6362663
>>6362664
trace over your key drawing really really carefully. sculpt your lines with smaller strokes and use the eraser to clean it up instead of trying to wing it in one stroke. boil is usually supposed to be really subtle, so keep the onion skin on, flip between frames often, and make sure that nothing is too chaotic as it moves. think of it like you're inbetweening something that's BARELY moving at all. when you turn on the onion skin, you'd want your drawings to practically be on top of one another
boiling also tends to work best on 2s and 3s for general acting, but if you're animating a shiver/shake, then 1s usually fits a lot better.

>>6363462
Interesting, I was trying to use the exact same brush size and to line it up. When I was tracing I was actually concerned it would be too close if I traced perfectly and it wouldn't look like it was boiling. I will try this approach thank you so much!

>>6363462
How many frames are here?

>>6364017
no problem!
>>6364070
there's 16 frames in this animation

funny Tails idk

>>6365228
Are there any features in TVP that make it better for animation than other software?

I make my animations in PS because I'm used to it and I'm too lazy to learn new tools, but if TVP can offer something that PS can not, I will learn how to use it.

Just wanna know is it worth

>>6366028
the timeline, frame/layer management and onion skinning blow everything else out of the water.
try the copy in the op mega. version 11 adds a paint system that i drool over but nobody's cracked it.

>>6366160
people speak highly of it but I have doubts, how complicated/time consuming is coloring in it?

In vector graphics it takes seconds.

>>6366166
in 10 coloring is the same pain in the ass process as with any other raster program, the new system in 11 looks great but i haven't tried it

>>6366166
i use tvpaint 11, only payed like £300 or so for a student licence, but i'd 100% pay full price with the time it saves, just for the out of pegs feature, onion skin settings and colour group frame flipping system alone. the timeline works flawlessly, it's easy to set up repeating, loop and hold frames, running the program is relatively light. it's easy to set up making animatics for long term projects and split them up into seperate files down the line. the colouring system is great too, speeds things up a lot, like one squiggle per frame just to fill a colour in, but i wouldn't make that part a deciding factor on getting the software.

i use flash and photoshop too for professional work, but tvpaint is what i do all of my personal stuff in, and if i get a job in TVpaint i can get it done way faster (assuming it's frame by frame drawn stuff).

if you're a student, buy it nigga. but otherwise i'm sure tvpaint 10 has most of the good features.

>>6366347
>colour group frame flipping system
What is that?

>>6366347
>only payed like £300 or so

Imagine paying for software

>>6366408
paying money for soft when youre learning and developing - sucker

paying money for software when you're actually making good money from it - moral

>>6366408
cool, point us to the TVpaint 11 rip then.

also the software has payed for itself literally 100 times over, and continues raking it in.

think before you shitpost you dumb nigger.

>>6366028
the SHIFT AND TRACE function in tvpaint is fucking incredible
>>6366408
i had the money to buy it and it already paid itself off lol

>>6366166
>>6366175
>>6366347
coloring in TVPaint 11 is pretty solid because it has a whole different layer type for it, but does slow down a bit when you try to make adjustments to the reference lineart layer. it's almost like the click and drag bucket in TB and Animate

>>6366408
hopefully them dropping the dongle due to the china virus will make it easier to crack, but nothing yet

>>6367096
looks comfy
how's it do with rougher line art, bigger gaps?

>>6366408
Get gud at hacking and cracking and crack the drm shit. They stopped doing their dongle cock lock up too.
I'm a buyfag shill but I mostly agree with >>6366347
Krita or Clip Coom Studio don't compare.

>>6366166
another thing that i completely forgot about that somehow i've taken for granted is that in TVpaint you can press enter to repeat your last action on the canvas. so if you fuck up drawing a line on the wrong layer, want to repeat a selection, it puts whatever you just made down again. if you select a range of frames it works across them all too with one press, so you can fill an entire animation with colour in one keyboard press. fucking revolutionary and i don't know why other art programs don't have it.

some other things, you can stretch an entire length of animation to re-time it and keep it proportionally intact. also custom brushes, you can cut out an animation and use it as a stamp / animated brush, saves a fuck load of time, and it's incorporated simply into your usual brush tool, and intuitive to use. really easy to make your own brushes that way too.

>>6367096
>coloring in TVPaint 11 is pretty solid
Thank you for taking your time Anon.

>>6367089
>>6367096
TFW all I have is TVP 10 and TVP 11 isnt torrented yet.

>>6367941
and it never will be.

did some practice.
>>6367089
damn anon nice fucking circle you drew out. im to dam shaky from drinking to much

>>6369239
Actually I downloaded TVP 10 yesterday and much to my liking it too has this awesome feature with making fills in a layer below, Im happy. Also found a plugin for colorwheel.

Dont worry, if I like it and stick with it I will buy one, Im not a chinknigger.

>>6355027
Just by looking at this animation I 'know' its inspired by some 90's TV show. That's some 90's teen angst drama white people dance from a show like Buffy the Vampire slayer, Angel, or something related.

Lick

Teeth

Forgot desu

>>6369568
sweet, glad you like it anon. (though as a TVPaint 11 user that screenshot looks like a program from the dark ages) though curious why you don't just use the 'colour picker' tab? i've always found it more intuitive (unless tvp10's version is worse than 11 or something idk)

Been doing some animation work on my off time from the sphincter hole that's /b/ draw thread.

Anyone has this?

>>6371074
its a shame that its the fastest moving drawthread though

>>6373127
cool, did you do straight ahead for this?

Vegan

do japanese people use a different numbering system? Studying genga they use even and odd numbers which if looked at through the lens of the american numbering system would mean they animate on ones, but they don't
how do they indicate frame timings?

>>6373793
Do you have an example, because the Japanese timesheets look normal to me.

>>6373793
>Studying genga they use even and odd numbers
I just assume that's because they primarily animate on 3s and 4s?

>>6373793
>>6374284

they likely don't think about their 'number system', most animators don't. they just do what's required for the shot to look good, and sometimes you can get away with 4's. the usual method is to animate 24fps then just 'hold' the frames that last longer (2's, 3's, 4's) and on the rare instance you need to have a 1, you put that in. no point in trying to formulise it, use whatever frames work best wherever as long as it times out correctly. say for a movement that starts fast but you want one extra frame in there at the end to bounce back to a stopping point, it's prob gonna be even/odd or vice versa.

i've never worked on a production that wasn't default 24fps despite 95-100% of the project being animated on 2's. and usually, if you have camera moves in an environment, those need to be on 1's or things look choppy as fuck.

>>6373793
might depend on how they use x-sheets. sometimes they have the timing figured out beforehand or write it down as they go, but retiming later on down the pipelines might change it up and make the notes not line up well anyways.
if I'm animating with an assistant/inbetweener and need to guide them, I label keyframes just with a letter, and then use numbers counting up from 1 to label all the places that need inbetweens. it doesn't really have any relation to a x-sheet, just "INB B3-C, favor C" or some shit like that

silly run gif i made 4 years ago. hard to believe it was that long ago.
doesn't feel like it. fuck time flies.
i need to get back to my old hobbies, this is depressing.

>>6375238
made in tvpaint when i was testing the program out.
i liked it a lot from what i can remember.
stick figures was all i could do cuz i was a pussy

>>6375242
3 years ago, blender's grease pencil

>>6375245
fuck, my sides. this was from 7 years ago

>Draw keyframe
>Looks good
>Draw another
>Looks slightly different but still good
>Draw one more
>Looks different again but still good
I'm losing my fucking mind. They all look good but it's like 3 different people with similar but slightly different art styles made each one. Is this normal?? Pic unrelated

>>6375364
Don't be OCD when you're doing animations or you're never going to finish them.

>>6375368
Alright alright. Thanks anon. I'll just keep going

>>6374284
this makes sense, since theres no ones it would be tiresome leaving blanks constantly
>>6374327
>if you have camera moves in an environment, those need to be on 1's or things look choppy as fuck
that answers a completely different question ive always had in the back of my mind, thank you lmao
i understand how timings work, maybe they dont think about it but i was just wondering why the timing system from the survivors kit didnt translate
>>6374724
i think i get it now, i figured the numbers corresponded to the x-sheet but maybe not. it does make sense that it would be annoying numbering according to the x-sheet and then needing to change up the numbers if the planned timing doesnt work later down the line so it's simpler to just count upwards by one, figure out the timings and possible inbetweens later
i guess in the end the only downside is it just makes it slightly more annoying to study their timings

>>6371074
A little bit more progress during my free time.

>>6375713
One of early stages

>>6375242
>the classic TVPaint default pencil settings
fuck yeah dude. this is one of my first TVPaint animations from about 2 and a half years ago

not bad for a first time eh

>>6375713
really nice and comfy anon

>>6353669
>>Books basic program tutorials, etc.
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg
This link is broken

>>6373337
Yeah, I did. Just felt like fooling around with motorpen for a while. I didn't post it here though.

>>6376358
Nice

Bumping with a WIP
>>6377117
sweet, it looks pretty fun

>>6375256
First animation is genuinely fun to me

any seasoned storyboardser itt?
whats a good starting off point for storyboarding?
i've been handed a script and am supposed to storyboard it for college and i can't decide how to go about it since the writer didnt specify the shots or durations for any of the action and wrote it more like a novel
any tips would be appreciated
please advice me bros

>>6378062
Mind posting up an excerpt of the script like a single paragraph to give us a sense of what kind of storyboard you're looking for? Usually the content of the script dictates what the storyboard's pace will be.

>>6378065
im not allowed to share the script excerpts and one of my prof lurks here so i cant risk it
but overall we were made to divide it up into bullet points for every action and go ahead from there
i just wanted rule of thumb tips and tricks from seasoned storyboarders for an absoluet beginner like me

>>6378062
what kind of script is it? dialogue? action?
it also depends on the style you envision it in storyboarding for an anime is very different than storyboarding family guy or a live action movie

>>6378275
just action no dialogues its supposed to be "visual" storytelling

>>6378314
theres no one way to storyboard but if youre starting out i suggest draw your story beats first, the most important frames that tell the story, probably the ones you have in your head (should be like 10-20 drawings depending on the length, don't draw whole scenes yet)
then the slightly less important shots between them, then start working on the smaller actions, within each individual scene to connect them all

>>6378334
i'll try this out it sounds better

Every time I try to look up comparisons for animation software they just talk about soulless corporate shit. Can anyone give me a quick genuine rundown of free and cracked 2d animation software? I'm currently using Krita, I'm not interested in vector stuff or trad scanning.

>>6378761
I'm in the same boat. I too would like to know of a good animation software.

>>6378507
Heh'd

>>6378761
TVP

>>6378921
this
>>6378761
TVP and CSP are great, I wasn't a big fan of Toon Boom's brushes so those two have more settings and interesting brushes that don't feel as clean and mechanical

>>6378921
>>6379717
tvp doesnt have a seperate eraser tool
have to manually change from eraser to pencil its kinda anooying
anyone know any quick shortcut guides for tvp?
i like the software so far the brushes are better than toonboom but its very intimidating

>>6379797
you use F2-F7 change your brush settings. there's even brush color settings for drawing behind existing lines on a single layer. I changed the binding to the normal number keys so they're easier to reach. one of the nice things about TVPaint is that there aren't really too many restrictions for what keys can be set to shortcuts, so you can learn what each function does from the TVPaint website, and then modify the keybinds to what you need.

>>6379946
if I knew other people were going to post this I would have spent more time making it make sense..

>>6381721
You will never be a woman

>>6381869
?

Any good tutorial or inspo youtube channels?

anyone have tips for dialogue animation process? I've been doing this WIP for a bit and feel kinda iffy about it so far

>>6382665
forgot to attach file lul

A short I did between two projects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-wLYA_Xbs

>>6362387
love it.
>>6353669
I just started making animation comic loops.

First animation. I'm a retard and didn't notice the second ground line until I was almost finished. Trying to keep the size consistent is hard. Next I'm going to try something less bouncy/squishy like a bowling ball.

>>6383943
good rule of thumb is to know the difference between a "jumping" ball and a "bouncing" ball. a jumping ball sticks to the ground a bit longer and has way more time to squash and stretch, whereas an actual bouncing ball analogous to reality will only be on the ground for a single frame. jumping balls are typically what most non-animator animation purists would see and worship thinking it's what everybody SHOULD do, but it tends to be too over-exaggerated to be useful in many situations. a bouncing ball shouldn't contact with the ground for too long, especially if it's moving in a specific direction where the speed has to slowly roll off with every bounce.
I animated a small representation of what either looks like bouncing in place.

>>6383984
Thanks for the example. I didn't know there were different terms. I'm following along with an Aaron Blaise livestream I bought a while back so I chose to over-exaggerate it like him. I'll try a proper bouncing ball after I do a bowling ball.

I'm dipping my toes into pixel animation. I find pixel art tutorial gifs (like these https://imgur.com/gallery/tFxyX)) really helpful. Is there any other resource or gif dump similar to this one?

I have some really stupid questions. Sorry in advance.

1. What's the lowest frame rate I could generally get away with without it looking like shit? I've heard 12fps is the lowest the human eye perceives something as a smooth motion but I don't know if that's broscience.

2. Is there a difference between animating ones on 12fps and animating twos on 24fps?

3. If I animate at 12fps and then export the video as 12fps, will it get all fucked up and play in fast-motion?

Thank you.

Here I go giving advice I dont even follow >_<
>>6361800
You're getting much more readable! I think you'd still benefit from some practice with no camera move or only camera move.
>>6369547
Seems to speed up going right when hits ground?
>>6370170
ぺろぺろ. Try animating just a line first to get a nice smooth licking motion, then draw the tongue over that. The upward motion especially looks jittery.
>>6375713
Great anime :)
>>6377848
Clouds and flag are pretty comfy
>>6378507
Lol, nice
>>6382673
Clouds moving much slower in second shot looks weird

>>6384158
0 fps. Watch anime, most of the time most of the characters are not moving. If you trade focus well enough it's not noticeable. Also look at animatics. I think they express things well without putting in the thousands of hours for finished animation.

>>6384158
>12fps is the lowest the human eye perceives something as a smooth motion but I don't know if that's broscience.
Definitely bro science. If you learn to look for jitter you can notice it at up to very high framerates, and if you are immersed in a story it's hard for the framerate to screw it up so long as you establish a convention. Only when framerate changes does it force attention away from the story. Appeal > technical skill and effort. Appeal in still art is difficult, appeal in motion harder still. It has to do with how long each frame is held, but it is not just more frames is better.

>>6384158
smear frames usually cut down on the line mileage for animations

>>6382673
>>6377848
i like your work anon
its very cool
got a blog?

>>6378507
nice bait n switch anon

>>6383730
neat
do you make the sounds yourself or do you have an audio engineer
what is your process for sound sourcing?

>>6384275
Glad you like fren, I do have an instagram, @McZee_Sketch
how about you?

>>6384360
just on twitter for now
@Kott_Chad
are the animatics you post from a personal project?
they're really cool

>>6384367
naw they're mostly assignments, but I try and go the extra mile and do more than what the assignment requires just to get the best experience out of em. The characters are personal project stuff though, I'll check you out though thanks anon!

>>6384370
thanks : D

>>6384158
8fps
watch dennou coil

>>6384275
I source sounds from random youtube videos I archived years ago using aTubeCatcher or w/e it was called. All sounds are basically made unrecognizable from source in LMMS or Audacity to fit the need of the video in question. Usually I steal music from hentai games that I torrented during 2011-2014, but occasionally I make my own music using LMMS and Audacity as well.
A FOSS-friendly process for making sounds.

>>6384158
>What's the lowest frame rate I could generally get away with without it looking like shit
if you're working at 24FPS, you could go all the way down to 4s [6FPS] for slower movements and the average viewer wouldn't even notice. for faster motions and high-paces scenes, it's probably best to go to 2s and 1s. for general character acting and dialogue, 2s, and 3s is alright in most cases, unless you're working with really wild acting and fast speaking.
i was playing around with the idea of using 3s and 4s. this was from a couple years ago

>Hitoshi Ariga Megaman
https://e-hentai.org/g/2382313/e5bd4953ad/

walk-cycle

>>6379797
if you tick the box called 'drying' in the pen settings you can use right click to do an inverted version of the pen that erases. i find it really handy for small adjustments. if i wanna erase lots of stuff i'll just use the select tool then hit back space.

>>6353669
Hi everyone, I recently gotten well in drawing in both the fundamentals and appeal. I want to do hand-drawn animation, would a printer scanner work? Would I need anything else like Adobe Photoshop? I just started getting into animation, so my bad if I sound like a newbie. Thanks

>>6388052
very cool!

>>6388616
scanning paper drawings is going to be a pain in the ass, get a cheap wacom (or whatever) tablet
as for software try tvpaint 10 in the OP mega

Is Clip Studio Paint decent for animating? Just starting out so I just need something simple.

>>6388661
use krita pencil2d or Tvp if you are starting out- csp uses a weird pseudo layer frame group timeline. Similar to photoshop's bizarro timeline structure. All that crap feels Hacked into the software, an after thought- best to go with a software that takes care to respect the mindframe of the animator

>>6388616
i agree with : >>6388652
but if you're dead-set on traditional animation get yourself a transparent plastic drawing pad and one of those cheapo torches
nex you arrange the torche in a table drawer such that it shines under your plastic drawing pad
atleast thats what i've seen some people use
or if you can get your hands on a light-table

>>6360417
THIS LINK IS DEAD I FUCKING ORDER YOU FAGS TO REPOST A NEW WORKING LINK I NEED MY SETTEIS

>>6389095
https://www.mediafire.com/file/f9i8ng69f0nh2nv/

>>6389102
nta but thanks anyways anon
you're a great help

>>6389102
Thank you very much anon.
In return I'll give some general advice for the thread

Heavily work on your key poses. Yeah I know it's obvious but It's very easy to just add more and more frames because it's very simple to line test with softwares. Plan the animation your head and in advance VERY carefully. "Fluidness" isn't the point in animation, the clarity of each pose and action is what matters most. you don't do a dozen unecessary movements at all times just for the sake of it (ding ding every wannabe amateur webgen animators in twitter)
Not saying it shouldn't ever be done, but you should know the rules before you bend and break them.
Don't hesitate to act the movement yourself as well. FEEL the movement.

motorpen dev if you're here
plz make it possible to re-render after doing edits to an animation plz
like pic related
i redid the tail movement but cant render it again

>>6389160
i sped up her tail wave
had to use screen recorder extension to get a render

>>6389028
>>6388652
Thanks so much and have a wonderful week!!!

>>6389160

happy to look into this. I wanted to avoid multiple copies of the same animation in the gallery

how the fuck do you actually come up with an interesting concept for a story

>>6389627

1. create a character
2. create a goal for the character
3. make the goal hard to achieve. Put shit in the character's way

its that easy. motorpen

>>6388652
>try tvpaint 10 in the OP mega
The mega is down

>>6390292
i had the folder backed up but posting a link will get my mega account banned instanty
there's some asshole running bots to mass-flag any link posted on here
got any suggestions for workarounds?
i have the files just not the means to share em

>>6390565
for a single file maybe filechan or anonfiles

Have any google drive uploads been taken down? I'm considering setting up a large folder for animation stuff to share so its in one link that wont go down but i want to know its safe.

>>6390778
Post it in a mega so it can be cloned and have a backup in case it gets taken down.

>>6390565
>>6390778
If you do use mega don't post the link here. Put it pastebin or something.

>>6389160

i added export frames button so you can dump out the png files

New to animation. How is this working? Can I get some feedback?

>>6390778
As I've understood it Google will have your name attached so they can find you
Mega is anonymous.

>>6391570
Seems like hand slides around. Try animating how the boob would deform on its own.

>>6353669
got a mega up with some basic books and some stuff i havent seen in the op here.
i will get the japanese books and tvpaint in there next week when i have access to my other laptop which is faster.
https://pastebin.com/9QKjuJG0

Is it possible to draw a reference then storyboard and make an AI animation out of it?

/3/fags, can you recommend me any software that can allow me to
> import a video
> draw over it
> space the drawing at my convenience in the timeline
> mask/unsmak the imported video
I need it for 3D animation reference creation. I'm using Kinovea but it's kind of limited (i can't take out the imported video for example to just see my drawings). A want a light and free (or piratable tool) so don't say Grease Pencil pls

>>6393550
Meant "/3/ fag"

Don Corleone

>>6353669

I am new to animation and drawing but I just wanna pump out some roughly stick figure-tier animations for funsies. I mean not exactly that, but I wanna make things without being like super meticulous about any sort quality
If I wanted to do something for a 2.5min song, what would be a good frame rate to keep me from becoming suicidal (and more importantly dropping the entire thing)? Would it better to start with an animatic and then consider actually trying to animate something from there?
Like I guess even just 6fps is still 900 frames which sounds pretty rough

>>6394348
jumping straight into a 2 and a half min thing when you havent animated before is ridiculous and overambitious no matter the frame rate. at least start with small tests a few seconds in length.

>>6394358
That's... completely reasonable actually, yeah. Are there any sorts of things I wanna try in tests to improve on? I guess probably like animations that focus on the 12 principles so that I can become more familiar with them?

>>6394251

looks cool anon

>>6394368
There's a list here http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/ but you don't absolutely have to do them all, I didn't. As long as you start off simple and work up from that, and look at plenty of reference frame by frame to learn about motion.

>>6394380
Oh man thanks! Didn't realize this was out here

>>6383943
Did a bowling ball. They bounce more than I expected. Any tips for making the part where it slightly rolls back and forth to a stop look more natural?

>>6395416
Looking at this again, I'm not happy with it (particularly that first bounce). I'll post a new version later.

I’m on dude weed lmao I made some doodles what do y’all think

>>6395598

>>6395603
>>6395598
pretty neat
what app are ya using to put it together?

>>6353669
>>6392758
Tvpaint is in the mega now and im adding some animation video courses in there right now.
I have some questions:
1. Does anyone know how i could download videos from skillshare instead of screen recording?
2. Do you guys want the Toniko Pantoja 2d animation course in the mega?

>>6395416
it looks weird because the ball isn't following physics (falling straight down onto a flat surface should bounce up, not to the side)

if it is bouncing in a lateral direction, it should be bouncing in an arc, but it looks like you have it falling straight down after its second bounce

>>6396065
I just doodled in my notebook and took photos with my phone then used a gif maker, i think the second result on google, sorry that’s probably not very helpful

what program do people use to make animations nowadays?

little warmup practice

>>6397930
flash 8

>>6398217
delightful

I used to know how to use Adobe Flash what program is most like old Adobe Flash....barring Adobe Animate.

>>6354792
you did the balls rlly good

>>6355876
god damn that was beautiful

>>6383934
this is awesome! i love the style and idea

>>6375713
wtf this is incredible!!

this took me way too long. it was my first ever try doing something cleaned up and lined and colored. i abandoned it lol.
i couldnt figure out how to make the hair bounce nicely with drag and follow through, i struggle with those concepts, anyone have tips on doing drag/follow through better?

this took me way too long. it was my first ever try doing something cleaned up and lined and colored. i abandoned it lol.
i couldnt figure out how to make the hair bounce nicely with drag and follow through, i struggle with those concepts, anyone have tips on doing drag/follow through better?

>>6399579
and this is another thing i did which i think is cute and im happy with

>>6399616
fuck this was the wrong file and my other files dont loop correctly. kill me. its here: https://imgur.com/a/Hu2vLYt

>>6399515
unfortunately everything else has tried to improve on perfection and resulted in ending up worse

Ethan Becker lmao

>G.I. Joe - Field Manual v01 (2012) (digital-Empire).cbz (228 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1wzhjbta2189fpu/

>G.I. Joe - Field Manual v02 (2013) (digital-Empire).cbz (226 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/n3wpuqhwabckxl7/

>>6403096

heehee funny move

>>6359531
learn the bouncing ball over and over and you can master this too anon

>>6384181
>Seems to speed up going right when hits ground?
yeah when i look back at it i see its speeding up aswell. been doing some self projects practices and trying to learn timing hopfully i improved on it

>>6399579
It's fun! I think the neck kinda not moving is a bit odd, and her body overall sh ould go down a bit more on the step postion.

>8

>>6398183
i didnt think someone would post it
thanks anon you flatter me : DDD

>>6406034
>>6403745
ooo i love these bits of physical acting
its soo cool anon
do you go pose to pose or straight ahead?

>>6407652
for those two I did mostly straight ahead to get a little bit of practice in
>>6403745
>>6406034

>>6353669

>>6399878
This is the most storyboard artists I've ever seen for one episode of a TV show. There's 20 artists on here?

>>6408015
That's not how people walk, I think.

>>6407652
Why do they always leave :(

>>6394251
This is funny.
>>6385078
This reminds me of the guy who said. This is 38 frames per second.

>>6382665
Looks good but I don't have the audio to judge.

>>6375435
Dude this is looking clean.

>>6408015
My man she's walking only using her knees down to her feet.

been branching out a bit after years of doing stickfigs on flash and now I'm really starting to feel its limitations (mostly the brushes and dated UI). I know TVP is the golden standard, but I've been fiddling with Opentoonz and it's been pretty good so far, anyone else have experience with it?

messing around with wick using my mouse, I have no idea what I'm doing lol

using timing charts is still weird to me. you can see i dont know how to use them yet, are they necessary to use?

where all the animators at? hope yall grinding. give me feedback

>>6411538
do some of the animator island exercises. challenge yourself bro.

slashy slashy

>>6384158
12 fps is 24 fps when animated on 2s which is the standard for the industry everywhere. Anime even animates on 3s for the most part and sometimes even on 4s.

>>6385078
Underrated.

>>6369788
I think someone proved that it is indeed lifted from Buffy. I wouldn't be able to tell you which scene, I've only seen a few episodes.

How many frames a second till something looks at least somewhat decent

>>6412732
added another guy

>>6355692
Don’t listen to these AI retards spamming the thread. Thank you for the resources.

>>6369788
>>6412774
It’s from S03 E14 when Buffy and Faith are at the Bronze

>>6355792
I think its more about different books and ways of learning will help different people.

>>6411686
if you're going to hand stuff off to an assistant/inbetweener, yeah. otherwise if they're not helping you keep track of things fuck em

a few sketches

GLORIOUS THREAD KEEP IT UP

>>6353669

How do I go about creating limited animation like Hanna-Barbera?

Any tutorials on this?

>>6422622
kricfalusi's blogspot, but it's not very well organized

>>6423006
>kricfalusi's blogspot

>http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/

Thank you anon.

Anything about anime's limited animation too?

Are there any good videos or anything about how to use clip studio ex to animate?

>>6413317
12

>>6424668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVWkuwsYwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JuM4cqglw

>>6424668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmrUpEFpRc

do i need a supercomputer to get smooht playback on csp? whenever i have a few layers and my files gets heavier the playback slows to a crawl, and flipping between frames lags too. for me it becomes unuseable. this same laptop i use can run adobe animate and tvpaint flawlessly though even under heavy load

>>6426062
Not sure about this but someone said this is a CSP problem where they don't use something from the hardware

>>6413317
8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5EQ82ZXGb0
A little thing I made, the first real animation I've done. Please don't bully me for tweening.

>>6427059
I think it has a lot of potential if you can find the right story to tell with it. I really liked imagery outside the car with eyes and the stage.

>>6427250
Thanks anon. Do you mean that you dislike the scene with the car and the stage transition? I definitely think it's a bit out of place as it stands now but it's intended to be the intro, and the final product is going to be much longer.

>>6427601
I said I 'liked' it, I don't know where you got the 'dis' from.

>>6428340
Oh. When you said you liked it "outside" the car/stage I thought you meant you liked the imagery except for that scene. Thank you anon.

>>6355692
I appreciate the effort anon, thank you for all the resources <3

behold, my magnum opus
https://files.catbox.moe/8f82ns.mp4