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Was there ever a "breaking point" for you guys where you learned something new and it immediately improved your work? I've had this a few times like when I learned about thumbnailing and lineweight, but I'm curious if these moments ever happened for you guys

>> No.6375324

>>6375316
forgot the term, but the shallower the angle of a plane to your eye, the more reflective.

>> No.6375334
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>>6375324
Like this? I haven't really dived into rendering at all yet so I have like 0 knowledge. If you happen to remember the term I'd be interested in reading about it

>> No.6375347

>>6375334
Yeah, so if drawing someone outside, the planes facing a blue sky get some blue, and it's especially evident when in shadow.

>> No.6375353

>>6375316
yeah one time i reached the "breaking point" and quit art

>> No.6375354
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>>6375334
I think specular reflection covers it. Usually when I think of specular, I tend to think of the point highlights, but it applies to all light.

>> No.6375369

>>6375334
Found it. Fresnel. With a great explanation and even a video!
https://www.dorian-iten.com/fresnel/

>> No.6375377

I was a neet for 7 months before that call to action webtoon contest. All I really did during that time was draw from the moment I woke up to the moment I went back to bed. Long story short I practiced for that contest for like 5 months straight, ended up making my submission in only 6 days, realized it was shit, and went through a complete mental breakdown for a few days before I turned my life around and got a job. I guess from that point on I realized that you learn better by actually making output rather than just practicing fundies for 14 hours a day

>> No.6375390

When u said NGMI gave up

>> No.6375412

>>6375324
>>6375347
>>6375354
>>6375369
Thank you for actually teaching me something new instead of whining about being a NGMI. I wish there was actual art forums still where these types would be culled

>> No.6375759

>>6375316
First thing doing the 250 box challenge from Drawabox. The trial and error approach of the exercise made me internalize perspective.

Second thing was understanding the lighting equation. It gave me intuition about how light works.

The last thing up so far was the chapter 3 of the book "Drawing in the Digital Age: An Observational Method for Artists and Animators". The method it teaches almost instantly improved my eyeball accuracy.

>> No.6375826

>>6375316
>Was there ever a "breaking point" for you guys where you learned something new and it immediately improved your work?

Yes, a few times when I read certain animation artbooks, some Japanese art articles, pic tutorials from DA, artists wikipedia, and manga volumes with author comments.

There's certain pro tips outside of your generic book, or video course that help you a lot more, and I'm fully convinved that the faster way to improve at art is mentorship under a pro.

>> No.6375831

>>6375826
>convinved

>convinced

>> No.6376133

>>6375826
You reminded me of the Craig Mullins notes.
A gold mine!
https://archive.org/stream/CraigMullinsSijunPosts/CraigMullinsSijunPosts_djvu.txt

>> No.6379103

le bump

>> No.6379140

>>6375316
Yeah, two of them that I remember. One was when I was watching a tutorial by moatdd in high school where he progressed from drawing boxes with individual planes to drawing them with only an outline and they still felt like solid 3D objects. Huge eureka moment for me. This is where I finally began to understand perspective and "feel the form".
Then some time after that I discovered that I could draw a face without needing to make le Loomis faec or drawing guidelines of any kind. It just kind of followed naturally from the first breakthrough.
Those were two moments that fundamentally changed how I drew and thought from then onward. People like to scoff about drawing boxes but it's literally the greatest thing that's ever happened to me artwise.

>> No.6379182

>>6375316
Yes.
One example, when I draw background. Realized that background shading dont even have to be detailed. Usually diagonal shaped shading and some simple highlights across wall cracks or crevices is enough. Also background is to more to give context on your artwork and most people dont focus on them that much.

Another time is when I was playing around with some default CSP blur brush. Tweaked it a bit, realized how useful it was for blending soft shadows, ended up using it for 75% of any blending related details.
A bunch of 'breakthroughs' I got were coincidental by trying something different instead of furiously repeating the same fundies 24/7.

>> No.6379215

I followed the Naoki Saito improvement method copying anime art I like nonstop and it has massively improved my art and helped me develop a style (mostly capcom 90s artists). I've been using irl references for a long time but didn't really get a decent stylization nor I was able to draw from memory decently until I got sick for a while and filled 3 sketchbooks worth of copied anime art, mostly from gacha shit that is well drawn
this happened in the span of 4 months and I've been skyrocketing with followers too ever since

>> No.6379292

isnt the correct term breakthrough when ur going up? breaking point makes it sound like you're about to collapse.

>> No.6379313

>>6375316
learning to draw without using any guidelines
learning to draw without any references

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>>6376133
Thanks anon! Very helpful note
Also, basically anime faces

>> No.6379909

>>6376133
>Craig Mullins notes.
>A gold mine!

Thank you!

>> No.6379955

>>6379742
>I like greasy women, but clients don't
Kek. Hey Craig! Now is the time for you to follow your true calling, get in there before AI figures out feet.

>> No.6380789

>>6376133

This made me very nostalgic.

I don't recall him having this huge stick up his ass about fine artists.

>> No.6381232

>>6375316
As a beg, cross-hatching techniques helped me feel the form.

>> No.6381616

>>6375316
This video: https://youtu.be/MJYGFwGhHnA
I became so much better at art once I started practicing automatic drawing. And i’m having much more fun ay drawing than before because I’m just letting my pen draw what it wants and not overthinking.

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Had an aha moment looking at the way loomis breaks down the way the pelvic bone creates the shape of the hips.

>> No.6381717

>>6379215
post blog