/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6368525
jeet thread 2 of the day. go shit in a street and redeem your latest prompt faggot.

>>6368525
do the needful and poo in the loo

>>6368525
It's not the AI, it's that AI-artists. They are missing the forest for the trees.

>>6368525
Because everyone knows prompters will also be automated in a year, meaning the complete death of creativity itself. And no, daydreaming and thinking of creative ideas is not boring task needing automation.

>>6368536
the AI shill woke up, this is only 2 of 15. let's see if he has any ideas other than the same bait over and over

That implies that democracy was a good thing in the first place. Which is your first mistake.

>>6368525
>democratizing

Artists are gatekeeping assholes, who knew.

>>6368525
>art

>>6368555
The gates have always been wide open. Go draw.

>>6368555
there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of tutorials available online complete for free. You can get paper and a pencil or pen for free. Art is one of the least gatekept hobbies you can possibly get into.

>>6368525
i've have always found racist shit cringy as fuck but the correlation betweem dork prompters and indian scammers is the funniest shit ever hhahahahahah

>>6368564
Art requires discipline, study and an IQ above 70. For for Pajeet posters it is a very exclusive club.

>>6368525
>"Why does democratizing art anger artists? I think people should be happy that anybody can make what they want."

>>6368525
democratize my balls with your mouth, faggot

>>6368525
>democratizing
Art was always free for anyone to pursue it was never legally limited to certain people. Please, stop pretending like art was some evil gatekeeping elitist club that was only for rich people.

>>6368525
>I think people should be happy
Would you be happy if some ai robot that used your own art against you to take your job and become homless as a consequence?

Why no artist sues these big ai companies like dall-e and midjourney that profits from the works of milions of artists that was used to train their ai machine for free to just make 99% of artists homless and strave to death?

>>6368555
Where is the gate? What the fuck does this even mean? Holy shit this is the dumbest thing I hear from aifags. Mother fucking cunt bloody batsterd shitting in the street holding hands with your uncle seetharaman.

>>6368525
AI creating images and drawings and someone registering those ones as his own art it's just ridiculous and sad.

And it's not art.

>>6368613
Do that and you only ship the process to China where they don't care about copyright.

>>6368525
Depesh, I am going to add toilets to all my paintings of anime girls floating in voids and there is nothing you can poo to stop me

>>6368525
Democratize cod-
https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/

>>6368525
Drawing requires only a pen and paper ($).

Prompting requires a computer ($$$$$).

Which one is more gatekeepy?

>>6368654
They think drawing skill is some inborn talent, and they're incredibly jealous that they don't have it. It explains why so many of the people who push this shit are filled with malice and clearly get off on upsetting the artists whose work they use in their copy machines.

>>6368525
I wouldn't say art
Meme potential on the other hand

>>6368525
>anybody can make what they want
why hire an artist then?
>Why does democratizing art anger artists?
Automation of a high specialized job that used to demand years of practice. If you have dedicated your life to art, you would understand.

>>6368654
THIS.

It's basically: "Art used to demand some effort and that was too much for me, but now I can paint like anyone, all I need is my RTX 4090 to teach my super expensive computer how to photobash/steal art from any artist I want"

>>6368525
Art has always been democratized. The tools are cheap and can be found anywhere.

>>6368525
>Why does democratizing art anger artists?
>Democraticizing
Lol, the Roman republic was more democratic. You either need a powerful computer or a to fork a monthly payment to get access to good AI art.

>>6368525
>constantly spam subpar images
>harasses artists
>can't keep it in one thread
I don't know, why are you obnoxious faggots hated here?

>>6368525
Art is in its very nature democratized you moron. Nothing and I mean literally nothing is preventing you from picking up a pencil and drawing. AI imagen on the other hand is art theft, typical jewy communism at work.

>>6368555
What gatekeeping?
>Paper- $5 for a 500 sheet stack
>Stationary set: $5
>Video tutorials are free
>Camera: Whatever your phone costs, everyone needs a phone these days so don't whine about it being expensive
Meanwhile
>Computer with a decent graphics card $800 minimum
You're the gatekeepers.

Pick up a stone and start those fucking fundies already

>>6368732
mad respect to the cavemen creating art without any of the resources we have today.
>Humans analyse and copy other artists work all the time, the same as AI!

Why is /ic/ so schizo about AI art but not /gd/?

>>6368555
>singers are gatekeeping assholes, who knew.
>athletes are gatekeeping assholes, who knew.
>(insert any job that demands effort and skills) are gatekeeping assholes, who knew.

>>6368713
"Powerful"
Nigga I'm using my 11yo computer with a 2016 1070.

>>6368525
Soon we will be able to use our own skin to grow biological AI brains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67r7fDRBlNc

>>6368745
It's because they haven't trained the average normalfag to worship visual artists the same way they've trained them to worship singers and athletes.

>>6368555
Retards and cripples can learn to fucking draw. The only thing being gatekept in art is idiots who are cheap and lazy but want to be just like the pros.

>>6368753
Retards and cripples don't need to slave away to pay their bills

>>6368759
Lots of retards and cripples have jobs, you dimwit

>>6368743
You fuckers really spamming this shit everywhere kek, they literally have the same sentiment we have not sure why you're lying

>>6368767
I didn't say they couldn't have jobs

>>6368769
They also have way more to lose then you, /ic/ does from AI in a Career revenue POV.

>>6368748
Humans are just meat, our brain is only a signal receiver and sender, why bother living anymore

>>6368769
For me it's how they claim that japanese artists are embracing AI when most of the AI spam on pixiv stems from non-japs and many jp artists are already dropping art because of AI.

>>6368773
The absolute state of the english in this post.

>>6368743
See >>6368717

>>6368525
As an artist, I try to be open minded, I really tried most AI art options and I can't understand how you would feel satisfied doing AI art, it's like of commissioning and gambling, you write what you want and hope it turns out how you imagined.

If you like to use this, you are not an artist, you just like to commission art (but is too much of an asshole to pay an artist for that) and probably has some gambling adiction..

>>6368777
They were ambivalent at first but it looks like they're sick of it already.
https://twitter.com/GoriliveSP/status/1581543533668077569

>>6368777
Japs on 2chan are pretty cool with it

>>6368745
Art doesn't demand effort and skills anymore though, so why are you pretending people need to "learn to draw" when they would be better served learning to prompt? There's nothing wrong with Legacy Art but if someone isn't interested in being a legacy artist and just wants to turn their ideas into pictures then the best tool for the job is a computer, not a pen.
The gatekeeping part is when you're saying art doesn't count UNLESS it was made with effort and skill, which doesn't make sense for most people who care more about the art than the backstory of it.

The evolution:
>art isn't a real job, artists don't deserve to get paid for art
>AI image generation!? this will democratize art! free art for everyone!
>ha, bet you really need to get a REAL job now, huh, artists??
>this is just as valid as real art, you gatekeeping luddites!
>let me train models on specific artists' works, even when they don't want it, that'll show them
>no, I won't tell the artists or ask permission, it's the same thing as referencing an artist's work!
>pls give credit if you use my model [trained on an artist's work without their permission]
>I feel like I actually made this generated work
>generated art is actually harder than drawing or painting
>wait, s-somebody stole MY generated art!! muh proompts!
>that's it, I'm going to start putting a watermark on my generated art
>if somebody compliments the style of my generated art that's using a model "trained" on an artist's work, I'll take credit for the style
>actually I made this style better than the artist himself
>this is entirely my work
>here's a patreon for my mooodels and generated art
>art generation is a real job, and I deserve to be paid for it

go get your meds

>>6368795
Current AI is skipping the art process, so you have only this:

Request >> Result


If you generate art, you're simply requesting art for a computer, how can you say you made it when not even a single pixel there was made by you?

>>6368816
I pushed the button, didn't I?

>>6368816
Don't bother replying to the same guy who makes the same post everyday.

>>6368816
You made the request.

>>6368525
>thinking democracy is a good idea
come on dude, the greeks solved this two milenia ago, yet here you are advocating for us to smash our heads against the same rock once again
I think AI can be a good tool, but dont see how that is democratizing art

>>6368748
>foreskins
It was a jewish plan all along.

>>6368845
FYI the leader and one of the founders of LAION, Christoph Schuhmann, is a disciple of a Jewish "educator" who pushes a teaching method which aims to turn students into a heard of barely educated, "everybody is equal~," commie hippie smoothbrains ("Students are free to decide if they want to attend classes or spend their time on other activities such as music, sports, art, computers, reading, talking, socializing, or doing nothing at all.")

Said Israeli "educator"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaacov_Hecht
YouTube page of "Schools of Trust," a documentary by Christoph Schuhmann (note the video Featuring Mr. Hecht)
https://www.youtube.com/c/SchuleDesLebens

>>6368525
This isn't the democratization of art. Art is already democratic street shitter nigger. It's called picking up a pencil and LEARNING

>>6368864
>b-but muh time!
he posts on 4chan, before logging into Overwatch and checking the status of his torrents of whatever slop Netflix released this month

I'm ok with AI art

Obligatory digital artists BTFO

Reminder.

>>6368525
YWNBAA

They hate that a machine can beat their talent. For a year I tried to draw, never NEVER improved at all.
A machine can draw way better than me now, just like the airplane, it destroys a previous limit.
Every single day as I cried, artists everywhere mocked me for not having talent, told me to quit. How many horses do you see beung used these days? Fuck them all.

>>6368994
is this just shitty pasta?

>>6368998
Eat shit nigger, I'll shit down your throat.

>>6368994
Based seething retard

>>6368994
but photobashing was already a thing for awhile and people still don't look to fond on it since some feel it cheapens their work and skill
>why should we praise image searches with less work put in or thought for that matter and constant need to say what x isn't
>pic related
I've seen stick figure animations with more heart put in then this boring prompt article piece for generic shit

>>6368525
>democratizing art
I still don't understand what does this mean? was there a powerful institution that maintained monopoly and prevented you learning how to draw?

>>6368555
i wish this were true. if they were actually gatekeepers, we wouldn't have this
>https://news.artnet.com/art-world/janitor-throws-out-art-installation-347937

>>6369042
Yes, education

>>6368994
good, you deserved it. and you will never be able to draw, just do the same things a 5 year old can do. generating AI """art""" is like beating your chest that you are finally potty trained as an adult.

>>6369054
other professionals will start using ai for their work sooner or later, i'm not even talking about art. when everyone is 5 years old, no one is

>>6368994
The power of AI autists. You vermin really are pathetic cunts.

>>6369056
Using AI and being replaced by AI are different things, though. How AI art is made, there's no need for an artist.

If AI were only used to improve and polish the artist's art, it would be at least a little bit more acceptable. img2img simply isn't enough for that.

>>6369064
inpainting

>>6368748
1. This is more based than AI. At least Petri dish brain has more in common with me then piece of silicon, and has million times higher chance of actually having soul and consciousness, unlike .exe program running on piece of silicon.

2. These biobrains might learn faster and are less energy demanding, but I don’t think they are the future, more like fad made by biologists. The power of AI is that once it is trained you can copy and paste it to any computer device, you can’t copy physical structures of the brain, or at least not with tech that we have now and will have at least in the next 20 years. Each dish brain has to be trained from scratch, which automatically makes this approach pointless.

>>6368556
what does this mean?

>>6369065
That's just a selection tool. It's like saying: "Hey, Mr AI-kun, could you fix that for me?"

>>6369074
>mr ai-kun
yikes

>>6369073
I guess he means that "making art" was reduced to typing some stuff. Not a single artistic skill is needed.

>>6369082
Being creative still is one

>>6369089
But it doesn't follow exactly your ideas, right now AI is way too autonomous. It's pretty much the same skill needed for a client to ask a commission for an artist, it's just that this artist is a computer program.

>>6369097
skill issue

>>6369089
Not him, but requesting something and waiting is nothing like making art.

>>6369106
You still need to come up with something in your mind, that is one single artistic skill still needed

>>6368525
Is there a way to have an AI baitpost mega thread? We get at least two of these a day.

>>6369111
>ctrl c+z
and aifags share their prompts that doesn't help distinguish the fa/g/s apart to your average coomsumer. Especially since they keep marketing it as a DIY thing but y'all need someone else fucking name to make their prompts better

>>6368555
A caveman uses rocks to draw on walls. You’re just pissed because you have no talent or character to sit down 30 minutes every day minimum to study. Thieves will always be whiny little bitches, though.

>>6368777
Japs are based. I want to console this pixiv artist and tell him third world era are not people so they can never replace us.

>>6368777
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA SUFFER JAP BITCH LIKE I SUFFERED WHEN I DISCOREVED I HAD NO TALENT AAHAHAHAHHAHA

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/8/23446821/microsoft-openai-github-copilot-class-action-lawsuit-ai-copyright-violation-training-data

AI BROS NOOOOOOO NOT THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS

>>6368556
>Negative: bad anatomy, bad hands
>the AI has to hide the hands
LMFAO

>>6368525
Because you’re thieves that want artistic ability with none of the skill or dedication it actually takes to get good, you’re inflating the value of art in general with your disposable sloppy spam, and on top of that you want recognition for something a machine created from the chopped up remains of actual art from actual artists. That’s the tip of the iceberg.
Kill yourself.

>>6369161
It is better to have loved and lost, than never loved at all.

>>6368777
delicious, japs aren't people

>>6369165
>Artists get fucked by AI thieves
.......
>Tech bros taste their own poison
CLASS ACTION!!!!

> creation of AI-powered coding assistant GitHub Copilot relies on “software piracy on an unprecedented scale.”
Weren't they saying that AI learns like humans and that's not copyright infringment?

>>6368555
Every professional is a gatekeeping elitist in their field because they are actually good at and responsible for the thing they do. They know it inside and out and they come down on ignorance hard because ignorant people fuck shit up constantly.
You wouldn’t know what it’s like because you’re not actually good at anything. Fucking prompt monkeys.

>>6368795
>Legacy Art
I hope that when you fall for the “upload your brain to the metaverse” con that your entire afterlife is AI generated, and I hope that the pain of being separated from mankind and God both will be ceaseless.

>>6369180
AI will never be able to draw a hand like that

>>6369179
I think the root of the problem is that code is more straightforward than art, so it is easier to show "these lines of code in a Copilot generation of so-and-so program is a 1:1 match for these lines of code in my so-and-so similar program." But yeah, if Copilot is wrong, so is AI art generation.
Also Jizza is brainwashing his audience to support this garbage. Reading through the comments, I saw one that led me to think that some believe these programs learned to "draw" out of thin air - the person drew a distinction between art generation in general being OK, but taking issue with ones trained on specific artists, which entirely misses the fact that the original generators themselves were also trained on artists without consent. So, I guess MASSIVE abuse OK, targeted abuse bad?

>>6369218
It's the confusing language of "AI Art" and "AI artists". There is legitimately a group of people so dumb to think that robots like the Terminator have taken up a canvas and paintbrush and are generating art from thin air.

I always immediately correct their language and call it "image grafting", "spliced images", and "search engine scraping". People immediately change their mind about it once you demystify it.

>>6368556
I like how I had to copypaste that post here from an archived thread because you niggers are either too lethargic or don't have the sense of direction to find /sdg/. Maybe setup the suite and do your diffusion reps before commenting on it like you comment on /g/ being fundamentally ignorant of art.

>>6369240
>or don't have the sense of direction to find /sdg/
Yeah, that's definitely it. Couldn't just be that no one cares enough about your shit to track you down on another board.

>>6369241
Drop the tsundere routine before an AI replace you.

>>6369242
Oy vey, goy, prepare to be replaced by the thing which st- I mean fair used your work.

>>6368994
I would love to play the violin. Using an AI music generator will never make me a violinist. Simple as.

>>6369228
The official term is machine learning even.

>>6368798
Insane how accurate this is. I keep seeing AI prompters malding about how people are stealing and reposting their images. Give them the NFT treatment I say.

>>6369244
Whose work is that? Reverse search brings up nothing and it's clearly not yours.

>>6369249
Somebody already did that, apparently kek

>>6369250
its mine

>>6368525
if i'd known you were going to use my pic to make a baitpost here i'd have cleaned it up a bit

and actually it's ironic cause i didn't even come up with a real prompt, i just copy pasted the lyrics to 'death cab for cutie - transatlanticism' so it's really ripping off even more artists :)

>>6369250
Ripped off from some nip who had his work uploaded to danbooru?

>>6369228
>>6369248
you're pseudo-intellectuals who think they're witty because they blunder with semantics and strawmen.

Do a 5 second search. You are absolutely getting replaced when you're this retarded and arrogant.
https://www.javatpoint.com/difference-between-artificial-intelligence-and-machine-learning

You going call AI with working memory not AI as well?
https://cis.cornell.edu/technology-helps-self-driving-cars-learn-own-memories

>>6368769
Still doesn't really counter my point.

Graphic Designers have more of a existential threat from AI, since AI art tools can take what took teams to do, to one or two people. This is a direct Examples like training AI for a certain Graphic style and have the AI be able to replicate it from UI to copy write/advertizing etc. Yet most GD's see AI as just another tool (though mostly aware of these implications)
Fine artists really don't have this issue, sure some coomer can Prompt AI to get hentai, Van Goh beating up or whatever bullshit a human can think of, but it really doesn't take away from a revenue stream

trad art has also not been immune to technological upheaval. Photography pretty much killed portraiture artists. Sure portraiture still exists, but before photos there used to be services that just offered portraiture for utility.

>>6369261
You want it to be called AI so you can s.oyface and go AAAAAAAAA JUST LIKE MY CYBERPUNKS

>>6369261
It's AI when it can actually reason. I can show a toddler 1 pair of scissors, and he will recognize any pair of scissors after that. Even with 100,000 scissor images AI cant recognize them, nor figure out how they are wielded.

>>6369267
Given LE WORKING MEMORY CARS link, it's probably the same dimwit who implied there could be some moral implications regarding machines with working memories.

>>6369258
But that's not how it works. You gonna claim ownership of a style? Are you going to wipe your mental library and stop using references?

>>6369271
*Should be [So called "AI" can't...]

>>6368769
Have you ever hired or seen someone hire a freelance graphic designer? They do exactly what the AI does except the AI will give you designs that express the idea behind what your esoteric brand while the hire will struggle with your prompt when the philosophy behind logo design has been to make it simpler. It would be improper for /gd/ to get a pass.

>>6368743
This reminds me of that terrible tragedy

>>6369165
You can't stomp it in every country.

>>6369271
Well it doesn't recognize what a "pair of scissors" are because it's not trained to "understand" object. It doesn't even understand the prompt which is actually converted to usable code by the AI through an interpreter (CLIP).
Its why the AI cant get text right because has literally no understanding of what language is. The AI only understands noise and relation to that noise that's it.
You be surprised that AI like GPT-3 is actually more resource intensive than image generation.

>>6369284
What terrible tragedy?

>>6369267
Oh yeah? Tell me more about what I want
>>6369271
You're not even an authority on the subject. Your pet definition is irrelevant. This is just low effort sophistry.
>>6369272
>he could be the guy that implied implications
Totally

>>6369291
Image gen ai is just interpolated Google image search

>>6369291
>Oh yeah? Tell me more about what I want
Clout without actually doing anything noteworthy.

>>6368525
>Why does democratizing art anger artists?
Because art won't be a viable profession to make a living with anymore. They're salty that they spend years learning to do something that will just be automated now.

>>6369271
Anon, I know you're going to keep shifting goal posts after this like most of the NPCs on this site, but you just learned about one-shot learning and its been done. You're way behind... Anon atleast be one on this board comfortable with using the terms neural network and deep learning now that you've brought that up.

https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/10/01/less-than-one-shot-machine-learning/

>>6368525
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

31

THIRTY-MOTHERFUCKING-ONE

XXXI

三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

>>6369301
Why would I want clout? It's just a trojan horse for the Tamas Guna.

>>6369324
It's true, I am an NPC, I was just repeating what I heard AI researchers say (Michael I. Jordan)

>>6369337
I, too, hate the Anti-Christ.

>>6369345
Alright we can kiss and make up. Now will you come and generate the best furry that beastiality money can buy?

Is this the thread?

>>6369373
Yep this is the one

>>6368525
>make what they want
I can make what I want because I can directly draw something that I imagined in my own brain. AI prompt feeders don't do that, they feed prompts into the AI and hope it spits out a pwetty pictuwe that makes they peepee tingly. They are not creators, they are consumers.

The real question is why other people being able to draw makes you seethe in such an impotent, envious fury that you would obsessively spam a Nigerian skydive knitting forum in the hopes of making one of these "skill tyrants" feel even one one-tenth of the seethe that you experience every waking moment.

>>6369385
They're probably underageb&s. Just ignore them and let them have their fun.

>>6368525
I like the skill of artists. I like the profession. hate a future where AIslop reigns. I also like drawing myself and see value in the skill, and I don't really see much benefit in automating art.
If it's the future, whatever. People are free to use AIslop however they please, in whatever products they make, but if I'm aware that they're using it i'm not buying. I'd happily stick to retro and vintage for the rest of my life.

im trying very hard to make my own style from imaginative and unique combinations of words no one else would ever dream to use, and even find the right seed to force a composition of the right style. I am no artist, I always sucked at drawing, I only learned to become semi proficient in college while learning engineering drawings. which involve zero creativity.

can't you just be happy that I can create now instead of outrage you will forget in a few weeks like kony 2012.
alternatively stay mad, there is nothing you can do. maybe up your game, its not like it can match real artists yet you know, it can't even do hands and feet.

>>6369392
pyw

>>6368622
They're talking about the gate that stops them from entering artists' property and taking their things

>>6369392
art has never been about being good. "I can't draw" is always a lie. The only people who can't draw are people who are dead. "I suck" also isn't a reason not to do something.

>>6369261
It's not artificial because it requires nothing but human input. It is not intelligent because a bunch of mysterious government characters are working alongside private companies to perpetually tweak it. It requires 100% human feedback and 100% real human made art.
They're trying so hard to get 4chan to put images into it because they want us to do the dirty work. The more we meddle with it so they can see what people want so they an profit off it. They shill it here every day and everyone has already seen it's limits. Go away AI shill.

>>6369249
If I were any good at drawing then I would just steal ideas from AIfags.

>>6369403
>ideas from AIfags.
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but...

>Traditional artists say that modern artists' creations are soulless trash and lack any of the magic of true art.
>"S-shut up you gatekeeping boomer! my epic funny retweets-farming trendchasing posts are heckin valid and cute!!!"
>AI artist who has looked up a single drawing tutorial his entire life generates a picture that mogs the average artoid in 3-90 seconds depending on GPU then does it again 500 times over
>"MUH REAL ART MUH SOUL MUH THEFT MUH FINGERS Ö"

And the funniest shit is that most of your art is in the same spirit of an AI's: drawing of a character you like in a pose you like/coombait/a pretty landscape for every 1/1,000,000,000 of the other two. That is the absolute majority of modern artists online and you're a lying retard if you deny that. You don't make masterpieces, you don't make art that moves people, you don't even make anything that people look at for more than one entire minute and that's if they thought it looked good in the first place. You just make cool-looking drawings that people see and go "cool" then forget about in less time than they spent looking at it, so don't start with the VGH NO SOVL coping thinking that your art is anything to anyone other than a pretty drawing and that's if you even managed to do that.

I can understand if you thought 3D was worse than digital, or that digital was worse than traditional but crying about art dying is the funniest shit ever coming from digital artists.

>inb4 IT STILL TAKES WORK TO DO SO IT'S UHHMMM DIFFERENT
No one cares. Traditional art takes alot more work to do but you scoff at anyone who says that and say that it doesn't matter so be quiet and go back to drawing the 327th picture of your OC while the proompter generates the 3270th picture of a huge tiddied victorian MILF on his RTX 3080.

And no, the general populous doesn't care about fingers remotely as much as they care about the general prettiness of it. Literally the only people that I've seen seethe about it are you faggots.

>>6368730
I'm a shoeless thirdworlder, with 10$ I can produce 50-70 art piece like this on 180 gsm paper with gouache, sell 2-3$ each. Art definitely are for everyone who aren't lazy.
AI fags unironically will gatekeep or even kill art when their Jewish masters decide to copyright "AI style". That mean they can copystrike anyone and claim people copy their "AI style".

>>6369399
Exactly, anybody can draw, so it makes no sense to listen to artists complaining about their """hard work""" flushed down the toilet due to AI. Hard work is people studying hard sciences for years while you try to peddle pic related as art.

>>6369267
>>6369261
Holy heckerinos! You're right about these pseudo-intellectualoids. The robots have taken over art! This is just like in my cyberpunk games! I'm gonna implement a magnet in my hand! Chip your hand now before the art robots take over!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K9xQLDUJzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3eQE7vBCi0
https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/60055017/game-developer-puts-deus-ex-chip-in-hand

>>6369402
That's fine there's no OC on this anymore anyway.

>>6369408
You really went and typed out this long ass post just to look mad as hell?

>>6369413
Your pic is a money laundering scheme by the same kikes who sponsor AI. It's not nice you talk bad about your master, pajeet.

>>6369411
Crashing this plane with no survivors BUAHAHAHAHA!

>>6369421
I think it's GPT-3.

>>6369408
OK

>>6369424
Noooooooooooooo! You can't call out my $432k money laundering scheme!
https://www.artnome.com/news/2018/10/13/the-truth-behind-christies-432k-ai-art-sale

>>6369426
Yep. When your every card is used up you resort to your one and only impenetratable argument "the cat is out to the bottle, I do it because I can do it and you cannot stop me".

You AIcels are terrorists forcing your way on the civil populace through violence and supression.

>>6369408
Uh, okay? Who cares about whatever shit you just typed. Yeah, most modern media is garbage. AIslop will make it a million times worse. Why shouldn't i object?

>>6369408
Pretty you say? /ic/ doesn't have its pulse on the general populace. I'll keep bringing it up. You guys completely flunked with every comment when that guy complained about his chainsawman grade and ended up getting it changed and Twitter slobbering over his knob wanting to pay money to be able to print it themselves.

Also Cal-Arts. Also top earning shit on patreon like BL comic with some toon art eye rape. Also niggers.

>>6369265
that body type feels eerily familiar somehow.

>>6369430
That sounds metal. All with the power of Waifu diffusion.

>>6368525
I think you should be boiled to death for your stupidity.

>>6369435
Have you watched Texhnolyze? This is what this whole debacle reminds me of.

>>6369433
Cal-Arts is just a style called flat art and it's simplified for animation. You ever tried to animate? I know you haven't. Those are animations made on tight budgets for children.

>>6369430
fucking what lmao

>>6369432
>Yeah modern art is shit too and I'm making it worse myself but let me tell you how it's the AI's fault.
>>6369433
BL? Big Lebowski? who?
>>6369439
>Gumball and Steven Jewniverse were tight budgets
If they really were so then AI might actually kill your entire industry for real kek.
>>6369430
Cool!

>>6369438
It's going on the top priority log.

>>6369443
>AI art might kill Cal-Arts jewish animation

So you Jews are mocking artists... because you're going to steal from other Jews in the animation industry? The ouroboros eats itself. You idiots are incredible. I actually predicted this would happen.

>>6369408
The general populace care when the places they browse are spammed with millions of same-y images. The novelty of AI stops being interesting when its conveyor belt nature shines through.

>>6369413
>Hard work is people studying hard sciences for years
There it is again. The wagie seethe.

>>6369443
>modern art is shit.
Yet you are helpin those kikes who made it shit by help them copyright others' artstyles. Who support AI are either kikeloving boomers or fake artist like mop bitch.
The people who push against AI are artists who spent years of study fundies to express themselves and people who truly love art.

>>6369447
Isekai

>>6369451
You will not stop the birth of our god

>You studied the wrong thing! This thing which came out of leftfield means your pursuits were always futile and your dreams and interests useless!
Literally the killer blaming the victim, kek.

>>6369455
God of what? Art thievery? I guess it's fitting for Jews who can't create.

>>6368525
Because it's not needed and the people who made the software developers think art is a nuisance. Those guys could have automated a useless job like HR, managers, private security, or fastfood workers but instead choose artists.

Where is the humanity in it? It's nowhere to be found with AI art. The joy and appreciation is cut out.

>>6369443
>Yeah modern art is shit too and I'm making it worse myself
i'll let you believe whatever you'd like about me, friend :).
>let me tell you how it's the AI's fault.
the tech itself isn't necessarily at fault. i've seen it being used very creatively (much like there are human digital artists who are genuinely very creative). but the vast, vast majority of people i see who use it don't really care about art or artists or being creative at all. human-drawn digital art still has a skill barrier which required you to actually love what you were doing at least.

>>6369455
Notice the thieves always showcase pics like this from pieces that are heavily stolen. Where's the base image? I'd rather see that.
>>6369460
Most of the pictures are abonimations like this but AI bros will cry if you mention that.

>>6369456
They grew up on the consume product, get excited for next product mentality, so it isn't surprising.

>>6369465
Typical pretentious artist drivel. How is 'joy and appreciation' cut out because the average man can now visualize his ideas?

>>6369480
if you need a machine to do something which cavemen have been doing since the dawn of time you were never human to begin with

>AIfags said they would dominate art sites and make artists obsolete
>AIfags have been spamming submissions on Pixiv
>even after all this time, AI submissions still can't get into the top 200 most popular daily submissions
Kek

>>6369480
It doesn't matter if art makes you feel joy or not. I've found out AI artistisans like to make artists try to take emotional arguments like this. Like defining if art is human or art must make you feel emotion. It doesn't matter if you love or hate an art style.

If I steal from an artist, I'm a thief. That's it. That's the end of the argument.

>>6369487
My prediction: add *we're being discriminated against!* to >>6368798

>>6369487
Just as we speakl they're looking for ways to fool people that their synthetic shlock is real man-made art to prove the uselesness of artistry. Exactly like trannies tricking people to prove that genders are bullshit.

>>6369396

>>6369496
>think they're better than artists
>has to rely entirely on artists to improve their model by virtue of how it works

>>6369487
Same thing happened on Deviantart last time I checked a few weeks back. AI shit was flooding the new submission sections but manually made art was still dominating the popular featured sections.

>>6369445
>Average artist's reading comprehension.

>>6369447
The general populace will really hate huge massive fucking elf tits, but they surely will love your insane deviantart-level fetish shit that no pesky AI can copy and is therefore not same-y and therefore better.

>>6369448
Every artist on Twitter is seething about their "hard work" being """stolen""" by an AI so don't knock down wagies too hard, you never know when you might find yourself as one.

>>6369465
Again with that cope. "It still takes work so it's different! Ö" is the only pathetic excuse of an answer whenever someone tells you that you as a digital artist are still nothing to traditional artists. Hey it takes more work therefore it's better so why not drop the pad and use a pencil instead next time oh wait you never will. 99% of you these days never will, because that's a skill barrier you'll never overcome because ctrl-z is too good.

>>6369491
>AI art has no soul because it has no feelings.
>It doesn't matter if art in general makes you feel joy.
Also I'd love to see you people get any legal action taken against AI instead of just crying about art theft.
>>6369496
Anon if I cropped the hands off an artist's drawing you'd think it was AI-made.
>>6369451
What made you think I was talking about corporate billionaires? I was talking about you, baby. Your digital art is nothing compared to traditional art but you don't like it when people tell you that yet you regurgitate the exact same things the traditional artists attacked digital artists with. That's the point I'm trying to communicate but apparently shit's too hard for digital artists, huh?

Basically what I'm trying to say to all the artists is if you're gonna complain about ART IS DEAD AAAAAAAAAAA as a digital artist yourself then you should shut the fuck up simply.

This place is gayer than /lgbtl/ and /fit/ and more copelicious than /pol/ in the 2020 elections.

>>6369485
Sorry some people would rather use their time productively.

>>6369509
Dumb pajeet, I'm a traditional artist, most trad artist see digital as just a tool, it have pro and cons.
Digital vs Trad are paint and drawpad sellers talking point for marketing.
All artists hate you AI fags for stealing people arts for your Jewish masters to copystrike them.

>>6369509
>Anon if I cropped the hands off an artist's drawing you'd think it was AI-made
If you crop the head and obscure the crotch on feminine thigh photos you'd have throuble discerning whether it's a real femoid or a high-end trannoid. Yeah.

>>6368697
It requires time to learn and I’m not rich.

>>6369509
>whenever someone tells you that you as a digital artist are still nothing to traditional artists
Where are you coming up with this? I see nothing but huge respect for traditional artists, not to mention traditional animation, in pretty much any art community of which I've ever been a part. Lots of digital artists draw traditionally as well, keeping paper sketchbooks and attending life drawing sessions where digital is almost never used.

>>6369513
Like consuming product and getting excited for next product.

>>6369521
Everything requires time to learn, including the basic literacy to run and modify this technology. And the cost of learning art is less than paying for the Radeon graphics cards or cloud services that let you extract the most out of the photobashing gatcha.

>>6368795
Why yes, when you skip everything that makes art worthwile for both the artist and the viewer, it loses all its value, who would have thought

>>6369524
To make my post clearer - I don't see digital artists getting defensive over being told their work isn't as meaningful as traditional artists, in part because there is wide respect and admiration for those who work traditionally, and also in part because most "digital artists" themselves often work traditionally.

>>6369530
they do not care, all they want is see derivative gacha picture, look at it for exactly one second then get excited about next derivative gacha picture
theres no process, no thoughts involved, its peak mindless consumerism, no goal or purpose in sight. they do not even seem to realize that this technology that """allows them to visualize their ideas""" obviously does both the visualization and the idea part of the prompts. An idea by itself is utterly worthless, only the way it is represented matters at all, and they have no control over this, they would rather hand over the reins to SD and get a vague approximation of what could have been their idea while their smooth brain takes a rest
AIchuds will never understand what you're trying to explain because they never put any effort in anything that's not a line of code

>>6369519
You're a traditional artist because you can draw 1 thing on paper but will pretty much only draw digital and so in the end pollute the place with more digital art. I'm not gonna call you a manual driver if you know how to drive one but only drive automatics.

>>6369520
You admitting to it means that your entire coping about soul or AI art being samey is thrown out the window because you'd never be able to tell if it wasn't for the hands. That's the point. And your gay ass analogy isn't even close because a thigh pic isn't the same as a full pic with just the hands cropped out. It'd be comparable to guess what, a picture of a girl with their hands cropped out aswell. Retard.

>>6369524
>>6369535
Go tell any digital artist that traditional looks better than digital and how digital is soulless and report back to me.
And again, being able to do traditional art doesn't mean shit if you're just gonna use the pad anyway. Oh cool you CAN draw great things but it's easier to do it digitally so let's do that and just that instead.

>>6369542
This dude just torpedoed the entire idea of commissioning to pwn AIs.
Also it's not my fault you're so retarded that you don't know how to navigate your way around baby-level coding that you get shit that isn't what you asked for. Nigger, you can literally keep reworking the image part-by-part to get it exactly how you wanted within minutes.

This whole thread is just artist cope, it's unbelievable. And to top it all of literally none of you post their work as they post about how AI art is trash because you know it still mogs you hard.

>>6369542
>never put any effort in anything that's not a line of code
That's some of them, sure, but for the rest, change that to customizing their PUBG character and you'd be right

>>6369548
>This dude just torpedoed the entire idea of commissioning to pwn AIs.
believe it or not it also applies to something as basic as a commission. turning a request (an idea) into art (something real) requires thinking about it and figuring out what works best.
>Nigger, you can literally keep reworking the image part-by-part to get it exactly how you wanted within minutes.
what you wanted? no, it's what the machine wanted. you don't create anything, you make compromise after compromise with the computer until it gives you a vague approximation of something you wanted to see.

you'd know all of this if you ever tried drawing anything, or really, actually put any effort into any creative endeavor at all.
get out of this board now rahul, stop shitting up the place, your place is on /g/

>>6369548
Imagine taking the time to type out all of that and having the gall to tell the others that they are seething.
These threads are a comedy goldmine.

>>6369548
>commissions
He didn't say anything about commissions. Always back to the money aspect, though; guess that's just your wagie showing. Have fun with your picture generator. See you when you get off work tomorrow.

>>6369559
>turning a request (an idea) into art (something real) requires thinking about it and figuring out what works best.
Artists can read the commissioner's mind and will get it 106% correctly, true.
>what you wanted? no, it's what the machine wanted. you don't create anything, you make compromise
Guess what, nigger, you're gonna do that with the artist too if he gets it completely fucked compared to how you wanted it assuming he doesn't just say "no lol". With the AI you'd have more control over the specifics of it but with an artist it's hoping to god his brain processes shit similar to you. That's literally one of the main things that makes AI better and this faggot's telling me the opposite. You'd know that if you weren't so scared of going jobless by an algorithm that'd you act so retarded.

>>6369562
Atleast I don't get my Pepes from Tenor.

>>6369564
Neither did I, retard. I didn't mention money at all when talking about commissions, just the idea of asking someone/thing to make a piece for you and praying they get it right. Artbros are you all this retarded?

>>6369573
You are so fucking dumb it is incredible to watch.
Do you seriously think all commissioners just give a prompt and wait for the artist to send the final result? Heard of thumbnails? sketches? Holy shit you are beyond saving.

>>6369573
Not only did you never draw anything, you also never commissioned anything
What are you doing here sir

>>6369573
>Atleast I don't get my Pepes from Tenor.
I prompted for it and took the first result, I probably could have got a better one if I promptmaxed a bit more.

>>6369548
>You're a traditional artist because you can draw 1 thing on paper but will pretty much only draw digital and so in the end pollute the place with more digital art. I'm not gonna call you a manual driver if you know how to drive one but only drive automatics.
I sell traditional art pal, this is my art >>6369411
Keep beating around the bush pajeet, you just point out your kind's laziness.

>>6368525
Art has already been democratized, the tools are available for EVERYONE. What you probably overlooked is that the process of creating is crucial for art. It's not necessarily just about the results. Instead of learning the craft these frustrated artist techfags decided to automate it. AI image generators discard the actual process of "creating", this opens a bleak future for art and for society as a whole. For many centuries art has been a reflection of the cultural and social development of a country. What can you say about a world that automates art? Advanced maybe, but also dead, lazy and spiritually corrupted.

>>6369455
well anon you know their song perfect for your anthem
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY7cofvtbco

>>6369573
Whenever I do commissions for a client, they're perfectly capable of explaining what they want me to change using their words. One client sometimes does ms paint sketches over the picture. Failing that, they usually have reference pictures as an example.

But I guess that won't work if you're too retarded to communicate with other humans.

>>6369583
They desperately want to give "Copyright of art" to their Jewish masters.

>>6369456
It's also pretty funny. They actually think they're safe.

>>6369583
What if people are too busy developing a cure for cancer? Or sending a rocket to Mars? Why should they have to rely on narcissistic and spoilt artists to market their products?

I want everyone to think deeply on why there are relentless AI threads popping up and ask yourself why you have to engage in the discussion and debate with them. They are doing this to discourage you so please just sage the thread and reply no further if you care about art. Go make more hand drawn art, it's the only best way to deal with this. We need more human artists than ever.

Portraiture has already been democratized, the tools are available for EVERYONE. What you probably overlooked is that the process of creating is crucial for portraits. It's not necessarily just about the results. Instead of learning the craft these frustrated portraitist techfags decided to automate it. Brownie boxes discard the actual process of "creating", this opens a bleak future for portraiture and for society as a whole. For many centuries portraits have been a reflection of the cultural and social importance of their subjects. What can you say about a world that automates portraits? Advanced maybe, but also dead, lazy and spiritually corrupted.

>>6369602
irrelevant argument as human intervention is directly involved in the process of photography. It's not just about clicking some buttons. nice try though, do better next time.

>>6369602
Except photos are easy to distinguish and are very very limited. In the future there won’t be limits to the AI.

why do people hate artists? I can understand hating someone for being a great artist out of jealousy, but guys like >>6369413 hate the very idea of art, they hate the begs more than they hate the pros. Like they see begs struggle daily with a smile on their face and they can't understand why someone would put themselves through that. And then they turn around and say that studying hard sciences is difficult and thus worthy of praise unlike the begs who work hard too. Which is it? Art has value because its hard or it doesn;t?

>>6369548
>You admitting to it means that your entire coping about soul or AI art being samey is thrown out the window because you'd never be able to tell if it wasn't for the hands
No, it's an obersvation on the lengths that pitiful people will go through to make their artifice appear genuine. And there are visual and contextual cues that reveal ""women"" and AI ""artists"". But keep trying to perfect your artifice buddy, you won't produce anything but contempt for yourself and your deconstructionist rubbish in the long run by people who know what they're dealing with and what to live for.

>>6369614
Art had value when it was made before the 20th century. Modern 'artists' are a joke.

>>6369598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4

>>6369614
There are 3 kinds
>they love art but aren't allowed to study art at young age by their parents because " art is not real job". These people either become late bloomer or just straig>ht up hate art, mostly East Asian.
>People who in for easy money but failed due to their own laziness and passion.
>kikes

>>6369614
Crab mentality, these people think that artists have it good and want to see them taken down a notch.
They would do the same if a tool that replaces programmers, scientists or whatever came out.

>>6369598
anon should look up the super conductor here's one guy videos about it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVzGpznw1U&t=277s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JnT37oUV_w
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zHLXvFUs0

>>6369598
>I'm not good at art because I'm busy doing more important things like curing cancer!

>>6369631
Humans in general need to be taken down a notch By whatever means and shadow hierarchies you've twisted the system with all its institutions, into a farce. Some already were doomed from the start including the golden cows. You cannot handle a simple ideological vaccuum left behind by anti-humanist theology. Conditioned for antire to accept late 18th and 19 century plan for degeniration. The great thinkers and creators areall dead and gone what's left is a unification of things with the content comprimised of trash and redundancy. Now you think you're lords over others. Human need the creation of a god to humble them and tell them the error of their deeply help unconscious assumptions, that your time is over if not accelerated anew. This one will face the truth of truth of the great one. Burn for the future.

>>6368525

if you want to know why you wouldn't be here wasting time posting shit threads.

>>6369598
post your cure for cancer

>>6369631
Once again, it boggles my mind that they don't hate businessmen the same way, especially ones who buy smaller ones just to destroy them.

>>6369650
now this is some good schizo shit, please keep it going

>>6369614
It's actually a bunch of very, very interesting government people who want to steal from artists and profit off of us through their private businesses. If the government and these mysterious companies would've wanted to be ethical, they'd have asked us and done it in a completely different way. It's a very purposeful, demoralization of art and artists. It should be perceived as an attack on art itself. But why?

They're mad artists are basically out of their control. Most artists are independent and self made. We don't answer to corporations and corporations need us. This pisses them off to hell and back. For example, Hollywood has always kicked around animators despite desperately needing them for animated films. I've seen animators wind up uncredited for hundreds of hours of work. They are so pissed they need us more than we need them.

Just think about it. If they could steal you art, profit off of it, and force you to work a bugman job like a wagie they absolutely would. These people know exactly what they're doing by trying to demoralize artists and sending artists death threats. If we realize our power and stand up and join in on class action lawsuits, it's over. Look up how demoralization is just a tactic in war.

Anyway, keep drawing to spite them. It's not normies doing this but some deep glowy Jew shit going on.

>>6369598
post your cure
post your rocket

>>6369607
You can tell when to dismiss someone's opinion on photography when they think all you need to do is push a button. Everyone has a camera with a phone, yet professional photographers still exist.

>>6369627
Accurate. Based. Except for the East Asian part because it's mostly the Americans.

>>6369674
A camera is a tool, it doesn't learn, you can't train it. Can you say the same to an AI?

>>6369676
these art diffusion things aren't really AI. Its just a fancy word to make it sound cool.

>>6369676
That wasn't a pro-AI argument if that's what you're thinking. AIfags think AI is equivalent to the camera when there's more to it than pushing the button.

>>6368555
Kek this comment is true, and clearly touched a nerve of several artfags.

>>6369790
Your comprehension is as good as your english.

>>6369792
Cope seethe dilate have sex touch grass rent free

>>6369672
>They're mad artists are basically out of their control.
Holy kek. You people actually believe this shit don't you? The level of delusion here is truly incredible.

>>6369672
Even the normie realised governments are hostile toward artist, accuse them of encouraging violent, sexual, degeneration ,... but the same governments will never try to solve those problem.

>>6369799
It is very transparent to us that ai fa/g/s and company are delusional jealous faggots that wish they could do art the real way and would gladly kill off the A.I if they could acquire the real skillset of an artist.
I truly believe this, no, I know this, and no amount of buzzwords and cope will convince me of anything else
Cope seethe dilate have sex touch grass rent free

>>6369111
Coming up with an idea is not an artistic skill, you absolute mongoloid.

>>6368525
>>6368555
>>6368743
>>6368994
>>6369240
>>6369381
You'll never be an Artist. You will never find the love of your life in Japan, who looks like this and is a cutie pie Japanese girl. You will never be the protagonist in an anime, you will never have superpowers that allow you to overcome your most greatest tribulations, you will always be a loser.

>>6369480
>>6369513
>you are so lazy and void of creative energy that you have to make a neural network "imagine" shit for you
>somehow the neural network taking other people's artwork and mixing it up into a primordial soup to grow images from as well as doing all of the actual work for you counts as you "visualising" "your" "ideas"
lol, lmao even

>>6369663
>>6369673
He can't yet, he has to figure out the correct prompts for "cool rocketship" and "cure for cancer" so that the AI will spit out a working result. This stuff takes time, you know.

>>6369909
Coming up with something is an artistic skill

>>6369891
>>6369924
>>6369938
The amount of seethe in these three posts alone is off the scale. I don't even dare scroll up.

>>6370010
>ur mad
Okay?

>>6370010
Cope seethe dilate have sex touch grass rent free

>>6370010
Yep, that is a lot of seethe.
A lotta seethe eze NUTS slapping you on your FACE, lmao gottem

cool rocketship

>>6368525
skilled prompter
>>6370049
/ic/

I'm not too worried. People who are mocking artists right now are spectacularly missing the point, but it won't take too long for reality to smack them in the face. Here's the rub:

I assume you've made a very interesting life plan regarding what kind of job or career you want to obtain. You must've placed some ambitions for your future. That's great, but there's something you should know.

You're next. Your job is not safe. Your career is not safe. If they can automate artists, they can automate you. "Haha, no way! My job will NEVER be automated!" Yeah, we thought the same thing. "But a machine can never replace a psychologist, for example!" I know someone who replaced their real-life psychologist with the chatbot on beta.character.ai. "B-But I'm a coder!" And? Github Copilot is just the start, you realize?

If creatives aren't special, you're ABSOLUTELY not special. Your agriculture job is in danger. Your teaching job is in danger. Your retail job is in danger. Your engineering job is in danger. Your computer science job is in danger. A robot will be a better surgeon than you. A robot will be a better physicist than you.

And even if you are part of the extremely special, privilaged class that will be the most insulated from automation - god knows what that even is - you're going to be competing against an entire workforce that will flood your field in a last desperate attempt to secure a living for themselves before we have to reckon with the reality of a post-labour world.

It's coming.

In the meantime, though, look at this cute flower knight I made with AI!

>>6370010
That's all you can say
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RXOuzytkHGA

>>6370055
You just need to be in a field that will take long enough to not be affected by AI and universal income becomes a thing

>>6370059
Or learn how to operate A.I. Crap, the trillionaires are still going to need serfs to clean up the edge cases.

>>6370055
Plumbers are safe until AGI. Is AGI even possible, idk.

>>6370055
They can't even automate art though?
Tell me a single artist that was fired anywhere because of AI.
inb4 two more weeks.

>>6370055
THIS, exactly this.

It's unbelievable that people keep comemorating this being totally oblivious that if art, a non-essential job, is being replaced, what about other jobs that really essential? Don't you think it would be even "better" to replace them with AI and robots?

Yes, when you say "get a real job", implying that what YOU do is more important, it means you're an even better target for these tech maniacs that think they are gods.

>>6370078
Nah, tech maniacs are just that, maniacs. No robot maids for another 50 years at least. Pod/bugz/Vr/consoom, that is the future they want.

>>6370071
I gave up on coommissions and I'm looking for some other jobs that allow me some free time to learn oil painting

>>6370065
>Plumbers are safe until AGI
lol

It's hilarious to see the usual retard falseflag at the usual hour, aren't you going to make a billion threads as usual?

>>6370095
pyw

>>6370102
You ever talked to a plumber? Robots gonna crawl under a house from the 50s and know what the fuck to do? When is this happening without agi?

>>6370104

>>6370106
>Robots gonna crawl under a house from the 50s and know what the fuck to do?
Why not? They can be specially built to tackle all sorts of difficult surfaces. A robot like Spot, for example, could easily crawl into tight spaces and do difficult plumbing jobs, remotely controlled by an operator managing multiple plumbing bots.
Or something like that. You can rest assured that there's someone tackling the complexities of applying AI to something like plumbing. But that's not the problem. AI doesn't need to take over plumbing jobs entirely for it to affect plumbers. Once enough people are displaced by AI and turn to the remaining jobs (like plumbing), plumbers will depreciate in value massively. AI can also make plumbers less valuable by being utilized to detect leakages in advance or optimize piping.

>>6370107
>someone paid for this shit
art is dead, our society is dying

>>6370119
AI makes everything it touches less valuable, it's like a decease and people seem to be blind to it.

AI art, for example, why would pay the usual commission prices to let someone just type a few things and press enter? Hell, you can do it yourself. What will happen to all those unemployed artists? Do you really think this won't indirectly fuck other jobs as more as more jobs are being automated with very cheap costs or no cost at all (like AI art)?

>>6370119
Good point about people flocking to the remaining jobs. A plumbing robot would need to also dig, cut, listen, feel wood, rescue squirrels, function with no sight only touch, reason(the big one).

>>6370107
Prompt?

>6368525
>Why does democratizing art anger artists?
Why do you argue in bad faith in order to attract attention? I think you should seek mental help for whatever personality disorder you have.

Ban AI threads.

>>6370227
>Ban AI threads.
Ban anti-AI posts. If you want to ban things, move to Communist China.

>>6370227
Found the bootlicking fascist.

I just use AI to jerk off to some fat chicks in specific outfits and situations and help me visualize characters.

>>6370315
If AI were used strictly for personal, non-profit, reasons, I would be ok with it.

Yes, coonsumers would probably ask less commissions, but at least we wouldn't have pajeets trying to sell their generated stuff flooding the market.

>>6370353
I'm going to be honest, I just don't really care. I wasn't going to buy most commissions because holy shit nigga, you asking me 80-100 dollars? Like Jesus, no wonder fucking IT furries and autists are the only people that do comms frequently

>>6370265
>>6370289
>banning offtopic garbage is fascism

>>6370265
If China banned AI Art I would start learning Mandarin immediately.

>>6370059
Wiping old people butts?

>>6369111
>You still need to come up with something in your mind
Another thing that AI shills can't do apparently. They frequently say that they use AI arts for their ideas too.

>>6369674
Exactly. This is why expert promptcrafters scoff at those who dismiss their art so easily yet probably couldn't even tell the difference between an ancestral and linear sampler.

>>6369408
Who the fuck is expected to read all of this bullshit?

>>6368555
Trips of truth, /ic/rabs seething

>>6368994
>artist tearing down other artists that aren't as good as them
This is why you should poke every artfag that's defensive until they are screeching "PAJEET PAJEET" at you in tears.

>>6368555
>>6370683
Pens and paper are cheap. We also have a general dedicated to sharing drawing courses for free. Take your meds.

>>6368525
AI art is basically a Picrew, but done in an even less artistic way, you just type stuff and hope for the best. Still, in both cases the result is not yours, you're not an artist by using it alone.

>>6369408
I have the utmost respect for traditional artists, but just because they use traditional mediums doesn't make their work inherently better (or their opinions more relevant). Digital art is easier in a lot of ways but while easier it also has colossally amplified potential. There is more interesting ground to explore with digital than there is with traditional mediums simply because of the sheer amount of things you can do.
>my epic funny retweets-farming trendchasing posts are heckin valid and cute!!!"
I have yet to see a single argument as to why chasing fame or money as an artist is supposedly a bad thing. The only people who think this are autists, deeply jealous people or annoying politically-poisoned faggots who appeal to some idiotic intangibles. It's equally valid to want to create stuff for yourself as it is to create stuff for others.
>AI artist
lol
>who has looked up a single drawing tutorial his entire life generates a picture that mogs the average artoid in 3-90 seconds depending on GPU then does it again 500 times over
>"MUH REAL ART MUH SOUL MUH THEFT MUH FINGERS Ö"
I don't dispute that AI art is real art. I don't give a shit what 'real art' is. The problem is that it wasn't made by a human, which was always the most interesting part of art for me. AI art to me is only interesting when it fails, otherwise it's kind of lame. Can it render better than me? Definitely. Is it frustrating that I will lose job opportunities to a machine? Absolutely. It destroys one of the last truly meritocratic careers and skills.
>You just make cool-looking drawings that people see and go "cool" then forget about in less time than they spent looking at it, so don't start with the VGH NO SOVL coping thinking that your art is anything to anyone other than a pretty drawing and that's if you even managed to do that.
No matter how hard you downplay it, people like specific artists even if a specific piece doesn't connect with them

>>6370055
Let me try and make this abundantly clear because you fucks don't seem to even be close to understanding why people are having a field day farming (you)s in this board and just relentlessly shitting on you guys:

Nobody is making fun of you because they think AI will never replace their jobs or whatever cope XXX reason you found to sleep better at night. People are making fun of you because in the same discussion you can flip flop from "AI is not even good, heh" to "i-i-it's all about d-d-defending artists hard work :(" to "surely they can't get away with this in court, so we're good guys, ezpz, heh" all the while desperately trying to convince people that AI art is not even art, and that it is theft, and all these other pathological techniques, while at the same time trying to criticize a technology which every time you try to describe it is abundantly clear to anyone ever cursorily aware of how these things work, you know little to nothing about. It's so fucking funny seeing people post bad AI art in a desperate attempt to show how AI will never be good, while this would be an equivalent of someone posting beg drawings all day to try and justify why human artists will never be good.

People make fun of you because you absolutely look and sound like a cornered animal. I think the best analogy I can come up with is this: you are a knight on his highhorse preaching to the masses about how virtuous what you do is, but at the same time you are deep in a hole looking up at them, and the people pass by, look down, laugh at you and move on with their days. But you can't leave. You are powerless and impotent, and all you can do is shout up to the people on the surface how they're being ridiculous and irrational, because the hole isn't even real in the first place, but also calling them dumb because the patch of ground inside that hole is full of meaning and SOVL.

It is one of the most insane things I've seen on 4chan.

>6370972
>because in the same discussion you can flip flop from "AI is not even good, heh" to "i-i-it's all about d-d-defending artists hard work :("
This isn't a flip-flop retard. Stick to using phrases you understand. The rest of your post is too idiotic to merit a response.

Ban AI threads.

>>6370980
>>6370972

Don't care how good AI gets, Don't care if it becomes indistinguishable from humans or not. I can never bring myself to like it. I don't see the benefit in automating art, I can only see negatives.

>>6369485
Humans are overrated

>>6370980
>This isn't a flip-flop retard.
>I feel the need to defend something that isn't a thread
It is actually like watching mass schizophrenia developing within a group. You guys have made this whole thing insanely fascinating.

Have more AI goyslop. Go ahead and point all the flaws, it'll make you feel better.

>>6371007
hear hear!

>>6370972
>"AI is not even good, heh
it isn't, yet
>i-i-it's all about d-d-defending artists hard work
It is, it truly is
>surely they can't get away with this in court, so we're good guys, ezpz, heh"
You may, or may not that's not for any of the two sides to decide
>art is not even art, and that it is theft,
It is not art, it is theft
>t's so fucking funny seeing people post bad AI art in a desperate attempt to show how AI will never be good,
It will never be as good as to hide your shit taste and lack of artistic perception

Also I just skimmed thru the last paragraph, it is clear you will also make a garbage writer.

So finally an attempt to good faith arguing, well there's nothing left to say that hasn't been said already, you're a faggot and will remain a faggot, simple as.

AI took my job

>>6370986
>Don't care if it becomes indistinguishable from humans or not. I can never bring myself to like it

Peak /ic . That was the post. The high watermark.

>>6368555
Just because someone is gatekeeping the toilet in your country doesn't mean artists are gatekeeping their craft

>>6369794
THIS POSTER IS AN INDIAN PAKI DO NOT ENGAGE

>>6369672
>>6369823

Based

>>6368525

I don't care about AI.

The issue is the unethical use of it and the lack of regulation.

I don't trust the developer and the users of AI.

IT NEEDS to be heavily regulated.

>>6371112
>IT NEEDS to be heavily regulated
Regulate art? wtf? Not in America.

>>6368525
Life itself is a gatekeeping enterprise to weed out the weak, and shape the survivors into beautiful and strong individuals. Its a necessarily sacrifice to avoid disease, of soul and body.

Thats why commie ideals, no matter how high tech will always end up in nihilism, degeneracy, apathy and death.

>>6368748
Artists becoming a bio-midjourney sounds like both a nightmare and a true renaissance in art. The merge of man and machine is the true leap forward.

>>6370972
>Nobody is making fun of you because they think AI will never replace their jobs or whatever cope XXX reason you found to sleep better at night.
And yet lengthy reply indicates that I struck a nerve.
You're getting replaced too. Don't be too happy to shit on others while they're down.

>>6368777
lmao what a pussy

>>6368838
If you request an artist to make a piece for you, it was made by the artist, not you, you just requested it.
Similarly, when you request a computer to generate an image, the computer generated it, not you, you just requested it.
When someone asks a painter to paint something for them, they never claim credits to the piece. it's the artist's signature that goes into the piece, not the commissioner's. Everybody has ideas in their heads, but not everyone can execute them, even with computers making it for them. You're just replacing an artist with a computer, you've not become an artist yourself, and chances are you'll never be.

>>6368777
show me more.

>>6370010
>hehe you're seething Anon, oh my god, hehe~

>>6370972
100% this