/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I think silhouette art tends to make something simple look a lot better.

>>6366402
This is my slight improvement on line confidence from yesterday evening. What would you say I should work on next before I attempt to color this?

im not even sure if the last one posted but here's wip #2

okay i guess it didn't. whatever here's the other one

>>6366015
Could you make your lines a little darker so it's easier to see?
Also the arm kinda tapers the forearm should be thinner.
Good studies like always though keep it up famalam

>>6366503
>>6366505
Why are you taking screenshots lol
Based for setting up an entire scene.
The shoulders on the woman are too stiff imo, think of it as a pyramid more than a block, your trapeziods are there.

>>6366483
What I usually do is first sketch it roughly and then put the opacity of that layer down, make a new layer and draw on that.
Sometimes a few layers over and over like that until I get the shapes right.
Maybe want to try that.
You can start coloring whenever you want really but if your lineart sucks the rendering won't help that much unless you know what you're doing and you're just using the lineart as a guiding sketch.

>>6366514
stop "using the software" and add some god damned value to the subject that is not a bucket fill, stop wasting time with frivolous shit on a piece of work that if half-finished, unless this is a commission for wikihow, then carry on i guess

>>6366514
going to agree with >>6366587, your stuff isn't bad, but it's missing value which would make it much more interesting, it feels far too flat currently

What to work on?

>>6366597
build with construction more, you are half-assing it and it's showing

>>6366402
Assuming I'm a turbo /beg/, How long would it take for me to reach this level of proficiency?

https://twitter.com/pkokonatu/status/1589937017940742151?t=dw1GvooJlU_Si7BEaPdgmQ&s=19

>>6366601
~2k-5k hours.

>>6366601
30 minutes

>>6366402
Activate your fucking windows

>>6366587
>>6366589
Thank you for getting upset about my stuff, unironically thanks for caring enough to post.
You're right ofc, I should add some shadows and more value. I'll have to look into lighting etc. because I know next to nothing about it.
The bucket fill stays though.

>>6366614
not getting upset with it, i think you're on the right path, but things could be improved by just giving certain areas a bit more attention to make the subject feel less flat

bucket fill is fine, ignore anyone that says it isn't; tons of pros will lasso tool an area and fill it because why not? saves time and allows you to move on to the next stage of rendering

>>6366618
Ok thanks for the advice man, I'll try. to do better.

I know the boob is missing, i'll add it later. But i fixed up the sketch a little bit from yesterday. I didnt want to start coloring when my hands look like shit.

>>6366648
you should just stop polishing this turd

>>6366402
How come the people critiquing rarely if ever post their own shit? No one cares if you post here. Stop being shy

>>6366667
what makes you think people haven't posted their stuff?

>>6366670
They speak as if they're incredibly knowledgeable and have years of experience yet I never see them post any of their supposedly high quality shit.

>>6366653
I’ll polish your turd with my dick, faggot!

>>6366667
Because seeing my art does nothing to change the fact that your art sucks. “PYW” is just a /beg/ cope for being shit because you can’t handle the insight and constructive criticism of /ic/. This is a CRITIQUE board. If you can’t handle that, go post in /i/ or /trash/ with the other retards.

>>6366671
i'm a /beg/ and i regularly give feedback to people that mog me as if i know anything kek

>>6366671
because the schizos and women that populate this board have convinced each other and therefore themselves that only film directors can call movies bad

>>6366514
kotor 2?

>women out of nowhere
rent free

>>6366715
women rock!

>>6366717
When they suck my cock!

>>6366723
oh it’s so hot!

>>6366483
You mostly just need to draw more stuff, experience will be your best teacher. It's better to spend 1-2 hours drawing a bunch of stuff (whatever you enjoy to keep it fun) than it is to draw one thing and waste time waiting for feedback.

That said what jumps out to me about this particular piece is your perspective. Things that are further away from us appear smaller. We're looking at the candle from above, the bottom of the candle is further away from us than the top, so the ellipse that makes up the bottom is smaller and the 'walls' of the candle diminish back in space, which means they won't look parallel like how you have them, they'll appear to converge like how railroad tracks appear to converge in the distance. Perspective can take a long time just to wrap your head around the rules of how it works, but just knowing the "Things appear to get smaller as they get further away" rule will be the most helpful to keep in mind as you start out.

Try not to bog yourself down with theory, advice, rules, and whatnot (it's easy to feel overwhelmed and hopelss in the face of it all), by far the best use of your time is to observe, practice, review, and repeat. Play around and have fun, experiment and see what happens. This isn't school where if you don't get the right answer you get punished, you're teaching yourself and every failure is a lesson to learn from. That perspective lesson was hiding there in your reference image, you just needed to look carefully to find it.

>>6366648
I'm so tired of seeing you
Anyways
Your neck and arms are too long, the hand on the right side of the canvas needs more structure and you're completely neglected the leg muscles
Actually finish this ffs

>>6366483
holy shit it's literally just a cylinder. go draw more

>>6366749
I like your house. is that a hunt 102 or 108?

senpai stop drawing on pure white backgrounds it'll save your eyes in the long run. personally I use a peach for more realistic warm tones when colouring later but use the transparent png grey or some shit

>>6366790
>senpai
opinion discarded

>>6366788
107

>>6366790
Where am I going to get peach papers?

>>6366814
are you retarded.
there's colored printer paper and sketchpads.

I haven’t drawn in three days.

>>6366749
if you're going to sperg out with this kind of hatching at least show some discipline and care
this is the adult version of a child coloring outside the lines
practicing straight parallel lines is always useful but doing it like this is always useless

>>6366648
just finish this already and move on to something else

How broken does it look?

>>6366873
back wheel needs to be further back

How do I draw hair like Franklin Boothe?

>>6366873
pretty broken, perspective problems aside, the angle of the front struts? are too far forward to support the weight and it looks welded onto a disk brake of a wheel. The foot pedals are way too high, and the handlebars are... yeah. imagine how a person riding this thing would look. Draw more real bikes from reference

>>6366879
HNNNNNNG

>>6366879
I thought this was shit from the preview. It's all right.
She's got two right feet and ten mangled toes.

The hammer either is weightless or she's insanely strong holding it like that. Put it down or make her struggle unless your intention is a deceptively strong little girl.

>>6366896
>She's got two right feet and ten mangled toes.
omg you right, i need to be more focused lol

>>6366879
hands and feet need some work and her right arm is positioned pretty unnaturally, super cute otherwise ToT

>>6366896
They could also have her hold it with both hands over her shoulders for a more dynamic pose

>>6366878
Could you post an example of him you want to emulate?

>>6366786
>>6366730
>>6366513
>>6366402

Tried un-unfucking my lax prospective skills by sketching this. Edited out the part where I colored in the Chocolate milk because the vid would've been too long. Suggestions?

>>6366977
learn to draw straight lines

>>6366966

>>6366978
Should I use the straightening tools?

I've been struggling lately and I felt like I finally did alright with this piece, but I definitely want criticism so I can improve

>>6366982
no, use a pen and paper, you are definitely forming bad habits from using digital

>>6366977
draw somethin that aint a cylender pls

>>6367003
This would've happened regardless. My hand isn't that stresdy (yet). I'm sure most people use straight edges with pen and paper.

>>6367008

Like?

At what point do you recognize that you truly are ngmi and just cut your losses

>>6366987
based IMVU poster

>>6366982
No, you have the benefit of digital, so just undo and try again. (for your software I think it's double tap on the bottom left, check your settings).
as >>6367003 says you are going a bit overboard with digital features, try not to zoom in and micromanage the details too much. If it looks weird, it's better to just try again, no sense trying to garnish a wonky cake.

>>6367010
draw a cartoon and build your way up to drawing accurate anatomy

>>6367026
What is that?

>>6367010
of course people use rulers if they want to draw a straight line for a piece, that has nothing to do with learning how to draw a straight line
the purpose of learning how to draw a straight line does not lie in not having to use a ruler; if you can't draw a straight line, you can't draw any line
every mark you've made in that webm is utterly unacceptable and you will never improve if you keep drawing like that, go do drawabox, the exercises there already are what you're trying to do here, and you will be taught how to do them correctly

>>6367024
Fellow beg here: are you actually seeking critique, advise, and trying to improve and change your approach?

>>6367038
>using a tool irl is fine
>doing it digital? NOOO SIRY BUDDY

>>6366987
Head construction is making it look flat

>>6367039
Yes

>>6367044
then stop fucking crying about this 10 minutes and change turd you squeezed out so that you can screech about not being as good and as fast as kim jung gi
have you actually ever spent more than 5 hours on a single drawing? don't answer that, go do it

>>6367042
Okay cool, I can work on that. Thank you so much!

>>6367048
Not him but Why are you so pressed lol? It's just drawing you autistic

>>6366614
>>6366514
I like it the way it is. Seems clear to me you're imitating the Banner Saga style.

>>6366977
>>6366402
>>6366513
>>6366730
>>6366786


Hot dawn does it suck to be unskilled and untalented. How do yall deal with feeling like you aren't learning and improving fast enough?

>>6366979
Idk looks like he does the normal hair thing where you do the big shapes the hair makes and then add detail in those shapes.

>>6367024
It's because you only drew it for 10 minutes

>>6367075
Don't know how other shitters cope, but I'm about to quit

>>6367040
did you not read the post just so you can pretend to be retarded?

>>6367074
Thanks man!
Appreciate the support <3
>>6367075
>How do yall deal with feeling like you aren't learning and improving fast enough?
For everyone it's different but I had to work, and still do, on my self acceptance.
Working towards a healthy body has helped for sure and giving yourself time and permission to fail are crucial.
Allowing failure and still continueing is one of the most important skills you can have imo.
It takes time. Frustrating as it might be,

>>6367024
>>6367077
Actually not that bad for 10 mins
Try and draw the full arm even when you don't see it it'll make it easier, I know foreshortening can be difficult in the beginning but the more you do it the easier it gets, so might as well start now.
People will notice the face first in figures, so I'd work on that first. learn the proportions and make a check or use construction.

>>6367083
/ic/ has a proscribed pace of improvement. Fall below the curve and you’re doomed to NGMIness.

>>6367075
There's a million ways to deal with it. Small improvements lead to compound results over long enough time. So as long as you do your due dilligence and approach each day with the mindset of improvement (or the very least maintenance) you'll just keep getting better. It's going to take a lot of time and a lot of work, there will be really good days and really bad days, but if you keep showing up and do the work then you'll improve. No one goes to the gym for a day and expects to walk out ripped, nor do they kick themselves for not being able to lift as much as the guy whose been going there every day for 5 years. you're training your body and your mind and it just takes time before any noticeable results start to appear, so just hang in there.

What are the main differences between anime/eastern and cartoon art? Are there any specific traits or it's all vague?

>>6367102
>/ic/ has a proscribed pace of improvement. Fall below the curve and you’re doomed to NGMIness.
What is it? is there some timeliness im unaware of?

>>6367120
first sign of improvement is you notice you come here less

>>6367120
If you've worked at drawing for a year and you haven't gotten out of the /beg/ level, you are most likely ngmi

>>6367126
>a year

Fuck....it really is not that difficult from thr gym like >>6367111 said... Is it bad that I waited till I was 20 to start getting good? I feel like even if I start grinding now I'll never Is the as proficient as a guy who's been drawing since 6 ( Although to be fair there are somehow some people that I've been drawing for that long that still haven't improved So maybe I still have a shot

>>6367146
Yea you started way too late, by 20 its pretty much impossible for you to get good unless you're naturally talented at it.

>>6367153
wrong
>>6367146
it doesn't matter what age you start, many artists start much older than you, like anything in life it's all the time and effort you put in to improving and turning something into a skill

those who say you're too old or started too late are just making excuses over their own laziness and failure to get anywhere, it's pure cope

>>6367153
retard

On my first try I realized anime faces don't behave well in a 3d space.
Also the proportions bug me off, I have to draw a ginormous head for it to look animesque.
Oh fuck. I don't know what I am doing, plus I cant draw women.

>>6367075
You kinda don’t. You’re starting more than likely as an adult with the intention of getting “good”. All the people who have done this all their life more than likely started because they simply enjoyed drawing

You don’t enjoy drawing right now. You enjoy the idea of being good at drawing.

I’m still working on enjoying drawing. Gotta learn to enjoy the process, not the result.

Finished this one from previous /beg/, I don't know fellas, I don't think it's that bad, but definetely could've been better

>>6367190
It's certainly not good

>>6367194
yeah, tried to go with a "messy" style, but it's definetely too messy, and too dark

>>6367146
kids doodle in the margins of their homework and draw sonic shooting goku with a gun. They accidentally get marginally better over several years just from that mindless time-filling activity. If you approach drawing with the mentality of getting better, you'll soar past any 15 year old whose been mindlessly doodling since she was six. Some kids are prodigous but that just goes to show that it doesn't take a herculean effort to achieve those results, you just have to draw a lot, and the more focused you are on actually learning to improve the faster it will be.

If you're lucky you've got 40-50 years left in you so its far from 'too late' for you, and I've seen people who've started way later than you have and skyrocket to becoming phenomenal artists in the span of just a couple years starting from absolute zero. Drawing is a hobby and a recreational activity, it's not something with a finish line. It seems your biggest struggle right now is not your techinical ability, but your sense of doubt, so maybe take some time to really contemplate why you're doing this in the first place, if it's something you really REALLY want then you'll do whatever it takes to get it.

>>6367198
This very thread disproves the "just draw" meme. So many shitters have been here for months and years with little to no improvement. The people who got good in childhood did so because they had the natural talent. If you haven't gotten good in a years time, you are ngmi

haha I drew a spaceship today

>>6367235
cute

>>6367250
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods...

I had to flip it. Something about his head/neck looks squashed. I think his shoulders are a bit low (because he presumably has real shoulders under the armor. The armor is in a good shoulder spot if they were arms)

>>6367190
i like it

>Flip it
whoops

Do you have any key guidelines for shoulders, heads, and keeping true to proportions when doing armored people?

>>6367270
sketch the person and draw the armour on top

do these shoulders look fine? like are they too wide or look detached?

Everytime I try getting into studying fundies full time It just kills my art drive quickly for some time even if the days before I was pumping out art decently enough. I k ow they are important since I am looking for a good understanding of proportions, 3d space, appeal and everything really, but I'd rather just draw from life and emulate other people's art styles for understanding shape and appeal. How do I get more disciplined in gener if I am specifically looking for a technically competent art style, especially character art and dynamic poses in general? How far will just drawing from life and studying artists I like for 1 or 2 hours per day + drawing mainly from imagination while attempting to not set any sort of comfort zone and be as varied as possible? Will not post my work but I am around mid-high /beg/ and I am trying to rage-quit this stage

>>6367298
lol at
>will not post work

>>6366483
>>6367075
>>6366977
stop zooming in when youre drawing youre supposed to look at the REFERENCE NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING
Also why are you drawing cups? Pick something with sentimental value if you're dead set on drawing simple objects
Also try to find shapes/lines/relations to copy in your reference, like the red lines i put on the reference

>inb4 blind leading the blind
the quickest way to get a solution on the internet is to post a wrong solution

>>6367257
thank you anon, I apreciate it

>>6367272
But then he’d be drawing a naked person, first. That’s sinful.

>>6367238
>>6367240
>>6367391
(You)

>>6367390
Anon, under your clothes, you're naked

>>6367396
Fuck off, faggot! Not everybody is an irredeemable pervert like you.

>>6366402
Hello /ic/. I'm the poor soul that spawned these creations:

>>6366483
>>6366977
>>6367075

My main goal is to get good at figure drawing (specifically stuff like people, animals, etc). It seems I'm getting mixed signals from here though. One side says I need to learn the absolute bear bones basic shit (like when I attempted to do and failed miserably to do earlier today) But then I see other artists here who only focus on big yard. One in particular is either /int/ or master tier in regularly gets commissions. ( >>6364360 &
>>6346789 ). What should I be focusing on first? I have no fucking clue where I should start or how to get better in a timely manner. I don't want to waste my time on stuff If it's not going to help me get better at my specific goal

I don't have a pepper so I used an apple. And I don't know how to shade so I just tried to copy the texture. I definetely didn't use 40 minutes for this exercise, so maybe that's why it's not very good. I'll pay more attention to the subject next time. Left is from memory and right is from observation.

>>6367418
>>6367429
No talent. Give up.

>>6367418
If you want to do figure drawings then I suggest you do some timed gesture as a warm up when you draw. It helps you focus on the overall picture rather then the small detail that most people get stuck on. If you want a schedule it would be timed gesture, one fundamental(anatomy, perspective, ect), master studies, and free drawing.

>>6367418
Gesture drawing is a meme and a waste of time if you don't even have the fundies down. Learn construction, drawabox is made for people like you that want to get good at anatomy. Once you can draw like >>6346789 without much hassle (no need to render), you can move on to the gesture meme.

Probably needs some more details. It's a WIP.

>>6367483
her thighs should be hairier

>>6367483
Smoking is bad for you.

I need some help with boxes. Krenz never made an actual grid for better or worse but I've found two, one that looks similar to his quick freehand boxes and that one that has different. Which one is more accurate to the actual perspective presented?

Kren pic related

>>6367492
Simple one has resembles kren

>>6367483
Wikihow to stink up your house in the morning

>>6367492
>>6367494
I used to do it like in this one but.. this one made me insecure about the proportions of my boxes.

I can't test myself. No protractor right now

>>6367501
>>6367494
>>6367492
never mind I'm an idiot. I finally get it now

should i learn anatomy before practicing figure drawing?

>>6367576
alternate. You'll see your weak areas and can focus there.

>>6367580
Alright I'm struggling a lot with legs would you recommend me studying leg anatomy then?

>>6367585
30 minutes of leg anatomy
2 hours of figure drawing (10 minutes each)

Bingo

Hello beg, i am humbled and happy my piece got into OP. This is second time it happened. Now check this drapery!

>>6367576
I dont think its possible to learn INT topic like drawing people from imagination without at the same time memorizing basic anatomy proportions and stuff
>>6367429
Your apple from imagination is surprisingly good. Btw you shade by repeatedly hitting paper with your pencil. You simply hit the dark areas more often than the brighter areas. Keep going
>>6367418
You are getting mixed signals because there isnt one definitive way how to master such subjective craft as art is. But the logical and common advice is to first learn fundies like observation, line confidence and perspective. I recc book Keys to Drawing. It teaches all fundies plus more. It doesnt matter what subject you want to draw, you need observation for ALL of them. Construction is INT discipline aka when you mastered drawing what you see and want to draw from imagination.
>>6367298
I have already heard that all ones need to get gud is simply drawing from real life OR copying master works. Obviously i cannot vouch for such method to be the most efficient but multiple people told me thats all you need.
>>6367190
The darkness of the room doesnt match the girl. Even if you are wearing 100% white shirt, it will still be very gray in dark room. Be more bold with your values! And she is a bit flat. The shadows on her torso, legs and arms arent profound enough. Btw its very soulful!
>>6366987
i heavily recommend you to first learn how to draw in grayscale before you will try to tackle colors.
>>6367024
never!

>>6367235
heehee hoohoo I did another one before bed

is my art presentable enough to start a comic or do i grind some more

Tried to do a shading study, probably shouldn't of picked something with so much black.

>>6367697
You dont need good art for comics

>>6367407
sick

I have no idea what I'm doing but I think I drew a Cyclops

>>6367762
stop the chicken scratch. long smooth lines

Is this proof that you can draw nice art from the wrist?
Rather than unbroken individual lines from the shoulder this looks to be made of smaller often overlapping lines
It feels like a weird pseud idea that wrist drawing always equals chicken scratch

>>6367802
Your iq is dangerously low

>>6367775
No

might paint but iunno kinda got a lot to do

>>6367854
gigachad /beg/

I did all this using my mouse
my hands hurt
I don't even know how to draw

>>6366483
bro wtf are you doing?
maybe draw traditionally first?
learn how to construct shapes from squares first?
also "line confidence" doesnt matter, when your lines look like shit

and you even draw from a reference on the screen
holy shit

drop the MS paint and your mouse
go back to middle school times, remember geometry and how to put circles in squares, and go draw shapes with an actual pencil

>>6367628
>The darkness of the room doesnt match the girl
nothing does
if he went full retard shadow master, half of his picture would be black
cartoonish stuff like that doesnt need to go realistic with values
but yeah, its pretty comfy

>>6367879
based carpal killer

Begging for any advice on improving the background even a little bit

How shit is it?

>>6367991
Well, yeah, the figure looks pretty flat because the foreshortening is way off. But the composition is cool, the color palette is nice, and it's actually an image with a narrative. I like it, keep it up.

>>6367991
you need overlapping on the arms and deltoid. You did it like the rest like the legs and wrist and hands but not those

How do I block in plants and leaves? Ikind of started drawing long triangles squared off at the top for the plants but then when I try block in the leaves that are coming out towards you I just cant seem to get it ! pic related

>>6366402
What am I doing wrong with brushes?
I must be using the wrong kind because the strokes are always streaky like this and don't blend properly.

>>6366483
Practice sketching 3D objects before making the final lines.
>line confidence
Who the fuck told you to try and get the final lines right on the first go?

>>6366483
below pre/beg/ level

>>6366699
There's some decent dimension, particularly around her hand and face. Try to get the basic shape of the pose and clothes with basic shapes before adding detail to avoid asymmetry.
Her face is kinda flat, it looks like you've drawn a lot of anime style faces but haven't studied bodies and poses much. Try practicing anatomically correct heads first, then you can make it look more anime later.

>>6366749
Perspective on the top half of the house is good but kinda goes to shit at the bottom. The sky has no perspective because of the hatching.

>>6367827
How am I wrong then

>>6367190
good old blue and orange, very comfy

>>6366977
You are autistically focusing on detail at a point in the process where you should be trying to quickly express simple shapes.
No zooming in, no rotating the image. Just one quick light sketch to get the basic shape.
Read up on how to get a brush to act like a pencil in digital though you should be using a real pencil and paper to practice fundamentals.

>>6368068
I think it's the jitter setting of your brush.
0% should fix it.

>>6368098
Thanks for the advice! You're completely spot on, I've drawn anime shit on and off for years but never actually studied anything and i definitely want to change that this time.

>>6368117
It seems to already be at 0.
I'm sure the issues is that I'm using the default brushes in an ancient version of Photoshop.

>>6368120
You got some good practice by copying anime styles but now it's time to drill the fundamentals. Most artists don't want to hear that you need to be able to draw a realistic human before you do anime but it will really take your waifus to the next level.
You can always but a figma for practicing anime proportions later.

>>6367146
If you actually study you can blow past most artists in a year. People get stuck doing the same thing and never improve.

>>6367190
Good color palette and lighting. The rest needs improvement but it's simple enough that it works.

>>6367993
>>6368013
Thank you guys

>>6367198
>your biggest struggle right now is not your techinical ability, but your sense of doubt
Fuck that voice in my head that tells me I suck and should give up.

>>6367203
>So many shitters have been here for months and years with little to no improvement.
That's because 4chan is an extremely negative community that will intentionally offer shit advice and try to demoralize you.

>>6367681
>>6367235
Good color scheme.
But it's very flat. Could you draw it from a more 3 dimensional perspective and retain the same shape?

>>6367264
How dare you point a gun at that sweet catgirl.

>>6367264
It's good.
Work on those hands though.

>>6367991
the color on the background and the props are fully adequate for a pinup, the subject is unsalvageable, start over, stop coloring things at this point because your form and perspective problems are far more urgent
also, just because you turned a fit loli into a slovenly, overweight 30something walmart clerk doesn't mean they won't come for you, stop lying to yourself and in your art, i'm not starting a discussion on what i said in this paragraph so don't reply to that

>>6367270
>>6367272
This anon is correct.
Flat and too busy. Work on 3D perspective before adding lots of detail, otherwise it just looks scribbly.

>>6368146
>slovenly, overweight 30something walmart clerk
she looks like an athletic girl to me

My sense of 3D perspective, color and lighting is bad. I made a perspective grid but it still turned out weird. Maybe I should be taking photos for reference first.

>>6367287
Seems alright for a loose sketch.
The boob anatomy on the bottom left is kind of androgynous. Like halfway between pecs and boobs. The profile on the bottom right looks good. Shoulder line might be a bit off though.

>>6368152
story of my life
i regularly have to stop and think to remind myself how vanishing points are supposed to work even though i fully know how they're supposed to work
it's the good old "just because you know it doesn't mean you understand it" meme

>>6367708
Stop copying.

>>6367855
Good perspective and lighting. Pose is a bit strange though.

>>6368124
spacing at 0?

>>6367973
Saturation is too high and takes focus away from the characters. I'd offer more but your choice of ship sickens me.

>>6367991
Good composition but the perspective of the cave is bad. The black in the background is too dark and makes me have to tilt the screen. Also a foreshortening fail on her body. Good color palette except for the black.

>>6368169
That will make my computer explode.

I have a hard time getting past the sketch stage.

Everyone keeps telling me to have 100 designs for my tattoo apprentice portfolio. I only have enough time in a day to make one (two at best) and then I'm only happy with one out of every three or four. 100 designs is starting to seem like an insane goal.. and it makes me wonder how these 18 year old apprentices got their in.

>>6368217
schizo-kun... i kneel

>>6368226
Pawell stop kneeling every chance you get please.

Drew a little seahorse friend.

>>6368140
That’s a load of shit. We offer valuable advice that these people are too stupid to understand. I challenge you to find even one example or this “intentional bad advice.” You’re probably just another of those retards who couldn’t handle good advice.

Guys how do i draw kool epic scenes, I can't get them to look anything close to what I want

why did no one tell me about this

>>6368197
hearts and *knives* you sick son of a bitch!!? No one is going to want that, start grinding carebears.

>>6368337
What do you mean do you have an image in your mind and it doesn't look like it osomething feels off?

Some loomis studies.

>>6367418
>My main goal is to get good at figure drawing
>but i got gaslighted by /ic/ crabs to do the opposite of that
lol

https://youtu.be/r-JhCL3a1uA

surely THIS time it will all click and i’ll find my motivation to actually draw every day. take my wallet, stan!

>>6368538
>urely THIS time it will all click and i’ll find my motivation to actually draw every day
how about ignoring both of those and just drawing? stop caring, just grab a pencil and paper and draw while you watch things

just doodle shapes in perspective or build a visual library from what you see in movies and shows you're watching, ignore making it perfect or having certain goals, eventually you'll piece things together

turning off your brain is the key to drawing, because if you think too hard before you're even starting, you won't start

>>6368543
actually sounds like you’re posting good and helpful advice to my shitpost. for that, i promise i will “just draw” today

>>6368550
>>6368543
He can't keep getting away with it

>>6368392
the picrel is my drawing, i think the thumbnail looks ok but the moment i start trying to polish it it all goes to shit. I want my drawings to look like they could be a pc wallpaper,but even when i put a lot of effort in it still doesn't seem finished.

>>6368655
too sexual.

>>6368655
I drew this picture when I was 4

>>6368655
too mannered, too refined. Too streamlined. It's at once both too victorian and too coarse.

>I cant draw anime girls

>>6368669
Based

>>6367681
haha funny bug ship
>>6368143
>Could you draw it from a more 3 dimensional perspective and retain the same shape?
unfortunately that's beyond my skill level and the scope of my funny little spaceship doodles

>>6366402
Unpopular opinion: /begs/ shouldn't post their work on art sites. Minus this board.

Took me 30 minutes in total, assignment for my course. Any other criticism outside of the right eye being higher?

>>6368647
So you got the mood you want down, that's alot already.
Now your skill just needs to catch up with your vision.
You'll get there if you keep at it but it'll take time.

>>6368687
I would use a non stylized photo because that isn't working.

hi begbros, i was away but noone can stop me from improoving. i redrew two pictures to see what happened. my portraits are starting to look like faces instead of ayy lmaos finally

>>>6367418
i'd say learn the primitive shapes and a bit of perspective first, can't go wrong with that
>>6367429
nice apple, keep going bro
>>6367854
kek
>>6368265
based seahorse enjoyer

>>6367802
No one with a brain thinks that drawing with wrist = chicken scratch.

>>6368282
This thread is full of it.
>>6367433

>>6366402
well decided to start drawing again after dealing with work I can't control over. Asking if there are useful courses for body anatomy/sketching and stuff so I can begin from where I left off which was steve huston but is he a good choice to start again with?

>>6366402

>>6368774
I flicked through most of the anatomy books in the book thread and most of them are as good as each other, Loomis, Korean, Japanese or Chinese books, they pretty much go over the same stuff in slightly different ways, just pick one and stick with it

>>6368782
you paint on one layer? can you show me a finished piece?

>>6368787
I can create additional layers if need to
picrel is the last big finished piece i did a couple weeks ago

I'm trying to learn how to draw proportion do you think there is any progress in those sketch?

>>6368825
from the top compared to the bottom? yeah, some improvement. I would say try to break up the body a bit more before you try to do the whole figure, focus on just arms, hands, legs, feet, etc. and especially the connection points like shoulders hips, waist. After that then put them all together. Alternately try using simple shapes instead so you don't have to juggle anatomy on top of everything else.

>>6368752
A load of people in this general and the drawabox guy sure think so

Hello beg, today the drawing was okay. Are you also okay?

>>6368782
i like the red gate
>>6368781
>that car shoes
I kneel, very nice and creative
>>6368721
the diff of the face is massive, good progress. Now the hard part is to keep the tempo of improvement, going from zero to one is somewhat easier than going from 1 to 100
>>6368687
soul
>>6368413
SOUL
>>6368337
now this... is this art?
>>6368263
if the post doesnt have my PYW then it isnt me
>>6368197
They probably drew... a lot. Like look at me, i barely make one per day and i am already at 154
>>6368187
Looks very professional
>>6367802
who told you that using wrist = chicken scratch and why did you believe them?

arms are more complex than I thought

>>6366402
Gonna respond with refs but want crit on how to make the clothing more appealing/shade. Clothing is my biggest struggle

>>6369085

>>6369085
there's really high value contrasts very close as a result of you essentially using a binary shading

the one on the left reads as a guy throwing a grenade while a massive floodlight is shined directly on him from an inch away

Trying to do some character designs for my game, can't decide between A and B
I kinda like A but the red vest changes the values. B is the same values and it's growing on me.
>inb4 C delete it and kys

>>6369085

>>6369095
I understand. I guess I just don’t know what else I’d use for clothing folds, especially with the type of reference. I usually see clothing drawn with two values but if other methods are better I would use them

>>6369096
A is alright but that's just because i dislike the green vest thing less than than the white jacket.
I think you should work on readability and simplicity, i'm not sure what i'm looking at.

>>6369107
I'm not sure if you have a brush-pen but I think some line weight variation might be the solution here. Rather than different shading implying some difference in lighting with line weights might be nice

Couldn't do any exercises tpday cuz I procrastinated. But i managed to draw something before the end of the "day".

Done. I know its not perfect, but I'm personally done with it.

>>6368550
i am a man of my word, so here’s master kung

How do I push myself to actually do big pieces and finish them vs just doing quick sketches? I lack the ability to see things through or work on something for more than 30 minutes before getting bored

>>6369136
do very long studies (2-3 hours). These will bridge the gap. Study artists you like, if you're making stylized work

Figures in perspective from how to draw comics the marvel way

>>6369152
left one looks sexy gj

>>6369090
>>6369085
>transforming that into that
You have a future career with western comics.

>>6368721
what books or videos did you watch to get good at facial proportions? I am in the lazy habit of just drawing and plonking facial features wherever I think they go

ESDEATH I SUMMON YOU

>>6367075
this is so incredibly cute, please keep drawing. in all honesty i highly suggest drawabox. i know people on here joke at it but i really think it'll guide you through massive leaps of improvement.

trying to paint the gang for old times sake

What's the best way to learn how to draw animals?
Also, how do you simplify drawing stuff like trees or nature scenes?

>>6369350
Become Peter Hanoid

>>6369152
>teleports behind you
OSOI

>>6369350
>look at image of animal
>draw animal
>look at other’s examples
>google “pen drawing of cat”
>try to copy how they did it
>repeat 400 times

congrats u can draw an animal now

>>6369303
Rei playing sonic frontier

>>6369418
How do you do the light effect on her head?

>>6369483
Nta but,
That's dandruff son.
>>6369418
Attention to detail, verry nice.

>>6369483
>>6369495
I paint that shit by hand. I use color dodge and overlay Modes to add slight "glow" to the surrounding area but it only works if the values are sufficiently dark around it. I've done it before without those layer modes (just using a soft airbrush on a normal layer) but it's a bit more tedious so I just use abuse those layers to save time.

>>6368933
>>6367802
> the drawabox guy sure think so
Took me 20 seconds to find out that you are a liar. Sounds like you lack some brain cells. I also doubt anyone here ever told you that.

>>6369418
Is that game worth the $60 asking price?

>>6369645
no

how do i get out of hands hell

>>6369418
epic

>>6367238
soul

Any tips for drawing noses from the front in not-so animesque style? Especially when it comes to female faces.

>>6368825
stop drawing so small

>>6369654
Keep drawing them.
Reduce them to simple shapes first.

Tried drawing a jaguar yesterday.

What do you think, anons?

>>6369741

>>6366402
How does one practice to git gud? Just draw is a bit vague. I've been "just drawing" for decades but I want to become good.

how are these sketches?

>>6369748
READ THE STICKY

>>6369715
Meow

>>6369495
>That's dandruff son.
can't tell if this is a joke or not

does anyone else struggle to get into digital over paper because the lack of something physical makes it feel less fun?

>>6368678
space whale haha

>>6369662
I keep seeing your artwork and liking the similar style, got a blog friend?

>>6369645
Nah bro that game is mid at best. That's why Shinji is disappointed and Asuka is mad

>>6369890
Yes, I've been doing digital since march and it's still not the same.

>>6369914
ive had my tablet for almost a year now but i find that i just go back to pencil and paper for the majority of the time, whenever i try digital it just feels like something is off and missing, the interest also just isn't really there

really trying to force myself into it lately

>>6369215
I’ll take it

anyone here make their own covers?

>>6369750
nice fashion designs, I almost picked up a book on the subject recently.

>>6369219
my faces started to look much better, after i followed the recommendation fromanother anon here, who told me to practice skulls. so i did that and aditionally watched and drew along "how to draw a nose/eyes/lips..." videos on youtube.

i also drew face anatomy from pinterest photos and sketches. i think this kept me occupied a few weeks. then, when i started copying morpho recently it sort of clicked and my faces started to look "alive" more consistently. top right guy in pic related is one of morphos examples.

keep in mind i did drawabox until after the 250 boxes challenge and i never really bothered to learn proportion just yet. i think the improvement came after i realized that i had to put the smallest features in the face in perspective to make it come together. they look like small caricatures mostly. i also haven't approached shading and did not actually study loomis.

>>6370074
>>6369662
hot

>>6370081
faces are generally quite difficult to get used to if you're aiming to make them more 3d, th easiest part of learning to do them is to draw big, big enough so that you can really dissect each of the details into simple forms first
>>6370074
the creature design and more gestural stuff is far more interesting

>>6370074
Wow, I wish I could do these gestures. Mine are so stiff.

kek where did all the volume go

>>6370178
this is where implied volume is useful, you focus shading around specific areas

First time doing values. Only liked the last one, but it's probably it already had strong shadows and I didn't need to think.

>>6370184
I want to be able to show volume without rendering or even cross hatching

maybe this is a leg weight

how do you come up with things to draw?

>>6370221
imagine cool shit then iterate some compos

working on my torso anatomy, think I'm moving along pretty well with figuring out all the attachments, but now I have to work on twisting and moving these forms.
Gonna work through some more Bridgman and see if I can whittle the time down that it takes to draw it all out.

>>6370208
second one works

>>6370221
>draw everything you see to build a visual library
>draw while watching things to find references while pulling from the visual library to mix and match objects

>>6369890
You get used to it after a while. And it's good to go back and forth. Physical is usually how I practice.

>>6370081
>bottom right
Reviewbrah?

>>6370221
Collect references and have a vivid imagination. There are more fantasies floating around in my head than there is stuff from real life.

>>6370185
Keep it up, try 3 values next, you will make it.

NEW THREAD
>>6370748
>>6370748
>>6370748

>>6369350
>Based fellow nature drawing chad
search up John Muir Laws on YT, he's the best resource out there that I've found for nature/animal drawing

>>6369120
Hey, how do you do your backgrounds?

>>6373256

In this case I used a fight club scene as a reference and then painted the same way you would paint on a real canvas, first you do the farthest things until you get to what is in front. This is the first time I've made a background so I didn't complicate my life with making it detailed and I knew from the beginning that I was going to apply blur to everything anyway.

>>6373273
The actual reference.

>>6373278
Oh cool, that makes things a lot easier, I don't know why I never thought about using background from other media

>>6366402
Ultra /beg/ here:

How would you rate this guy's... uhhh what's it called... construction? Process? Style? I've seen people here in other places That you should be drawing what you think parts of the body are shaped like (ellipsis/rectangles for certain limbs, maybe a circle for the head tits and ass, etc) before you move any further. What exactly is this guy doing? Is he just more skilled to the point where he doesn't need to do that (If that's what he's doing)?

TLDR: What is this guy doing and why is it or is it not important?

https://twitter.com/18dart3/status/1591820201082982401