/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6361734
pls help

I felt proud of this

Practice portraits because I can draw just anime

Something's feels wrong with the legs bros, or maybe something else?

>>6361890
draw the butt

Decided to redo the geasture that I failed yesterday and I did two new ones from a reference. I feel like I did number one much better than yesterday, not perfect but it looks like a step up from last time though the other two are not as good.
Number two's body looks much rounder than the reference even though I got messed up a bit with how dark the ref was I still need to improve on that.
But number three looks the worse out of the three, proportions look way off, and the gesture looks too flat even with the curves.
Is there anything flaws in them that I might have missed, still new to this gesture drawing thing.

>>6361891
cute

>>6361890
maybe try moving the right leg up

>>6361822
Really good

I just drew this from imagination when I normally draw shit like >>6361811

wtf bros am I just meant to be a coomer artist?

>>6361782

I applied some of your feedback to some degree. Don't need to be so anal about it. I appreciate your time.

work in progress

Drawing… tried to combine a gun and a landscape. Then wanted to practice a mouth. Then did three gestures.

total time probably 90-120 min

am i on the right path

Does anyone have any resources for digital portrait painting?

>>6361924
Try taking a picture of yourself in this pose and look at where the elbow/hand fall.

yo. so i made a few edits from the previous sketch. does anyone have anything to fix about this (besides the muscles). would greatly appreciate any critiques

>>6361812
we all start somewhere. keep this and look back at it later

>>6361995
*reference

left is my art, right is reference. reference has its own issues bc the models are fucky but any advice for the art is greatly appreciated. im sorry for begging im sick af.

>>6361890
Put her on any background. Draw a horizon line.

>>6362000
your first mistake is using those references, they're garbage with pretty textures. either go to /asg/ and see what help they can be or use photo refs.

>>6362000

Idk if I should keep drawing plants or move to insects.

>>6362006
ur very right.. thank u anon
>>6362012
smug smug

>>6361811
>>6361734
you have to keep drawing, everyday, never stop, copy your favorite artists, find their sketches, scroll to their oldest posts and try to understand how they draw.

Holy fuck I hate drawing clothes. I'm too retarded to figure this shit out just by looking at references. What is the best, absolute beginner-level tutorial for learning how to draw them when you're shit-tier /beg/?

>>6361894
I don't feel like you can fully see the butt from that pose
>>6362003
Here's the background, just had the layer hidden

>>6362013
Dip your toes in the water.

Something I've been working on today that I'm feeling relatively good about.

You can do it, anons! I am learning to draw shit! You can, too! Keep going! Never give up!

>>6361860
schizo

dont ya' love when you post your work but get no feedback?

I LOVE IT.

>>6362086
Which one is yours?

>>6362067
this is the kind of message i would post along with my shit drawing when it turned out shit but less shit than i imagined

draw a face tomorrow and post with that same enthusiasm lol

gj tho

too much for today

Learning some poses

>>6362131
reference?

>>6362131
The hig heel being in direct profile feels unnatural, Maybe just draw a bit of the bottom plane of the shoe.

>>6362135
Asanagi

ngmi

what about of my main character of my new story

>>6361898
I'm not that good but I did a little something to show my process, hope it helps

>>6361812
Shelly Duvall in the Shining?

>>6362091

>>6361998

>>6362151
why do you hate women

>>6362163
kek

>>6362166
Oh i just love his style and always wanted to be skilled as him. Subject matter don't intrest me.

more mindless doodling while I should be applying myself to learning things I want to be able to do

>>6362164
Looking good. I think most of the critiques I have are probably going to be solved as you move forward. The piece doesn't reallly have a focal point, I'd try to add some sort of story to the piece to make it more interesting to look at. Technically it's sound so far.

>>6362055
this is caca maybe... but i flipped it and I made the left left shorter and the right one further away. Maybe I'm wrong.

>>6362161
That helps me a bit actually, never really considered paying attention to how the body reacts to the floor and I need to drill in my head that the lines shouldn't be taken as law and should be used as a guide.
Though I didn't pick up on the proportion and angle stuff, just didn't come to mind for some reason for I'm very thankful that you brought that to my attention.
Also, thank you for redlining my gestures. I knew figures one and 2 had some problems with them since the position they have screwed me up a bit but I didn't notice what was wrong about the third. except from the fact that I fattened up the stomach whereas the reference one was quite lean.
Thank you again for the help, I'll keep these in mind when I try these gestures again.

I feel like my stickers look stiff
Like they don't "flow" (if that's the correct word that describes what I want)

What can I do or take in mind to make them more appealing to look at?

I would like some critique please

>>6362212
Look at graphic design concepts, there's too much going on and many details that make it hard to read. Try simplify.

>>6362215
Learn to draw hands.

>>6362223
Which concepts specifically?

>>6362224
I didn't want to draw them there, but I get that I should practice that. (even though they would have looked like this

>>6362215
>>6362232
>When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.
Not sure what else you're looking for, this looks like a finished character concept, do you have more examples? You could put it in a scene now.

I think the shadow for the breasts should be larger in both directions given their contour and lack of form, you're essentially missing its cast shadow. Same goes for the ears. You could also try a more interesting light direction.

>was using my freetime from WFH to do drawing reps
>new CEO called everyone back starting next week, WFH completely abolished
>mfw
I know no one likes blogposting but holy fuck I need to vent, I just wanna draw, why the fuck there's so little free time

Based and work on locale pilled boss.

Anybody got recommendations for brushes to use to not get such a glossy look to paintings? I used soft round for this (except the hair), but i found most other brushes I couldn't create "realistic" texture with

>>6362253
use a sharper brush for the edge of objects that overlap. her limbs are literally blurred together, while her whole figure looks like it's been cut and pasted. nice values tho

>>6362239
Thanks a lot for the explanation and help. In this case I just wanted a general impression of the piece, but ill be more specific from now on. Thanks!

>>6362253
You are supposed to use both hard and soft brushes.

Hello beg, today i skipped the schedule focusing on mostly heads and instead i made this meme.

>>6362212
they look great to me but the only thing i saw about curing "stiff" drawings are gesture exercises so maybe look into that
>>6362131
coom
>>6362126
i like it, it shows promise of soul
>>6362065
she looks like she fucks teenager boys
>>6362048
if you struggle to draw 1:1 copy from reference then you need Keys to Drawing which are all about that observation + more
>>6361995
legs are TOO LONG but who knows maybe you wanted to make alien
>>6361991
https://www.ctrlpaint.com
>>6361822
i kneel
>>6361811
to become full fledged BEG is to master drawing from observation and there is this book i shill a lot: keys to drawing. It has theory, practical tips and exercises for prebegs so at the end of the book they ascend into beg if not higher. If you want to be hardcore copy also every single drawing in the book, not just the exercises as you read it
>>6362215
Start with not hiding hands and legs. You could also be way more bold with shadows or add texture
>>6362253
Have you considered adding "canvas" texture after you are done? Many people work like that. The first draw using the hard round brush meme and at the end they make new layer under or over and pick texture or fancy brush and with few strokes slap texture to it

>>6362270
SOVL

>>6362253
Don't you literally have the process video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKRodazzFZk
Did you do the rendering exercises in the previous part? He uses a slightly textured soft brush: https://youtu.be/8U_h3fw7VRc?t=346

switched up form the reference to make it unique.

if it isnt obvious, i wanted to make her look like shes flowting/hovering through space or with some sort of flight ability.

>>6362277
>switched up form the reference to make it unique.
AKA ran out of canvas.

>>6362270


>>6361995
>legs are TOO LONG but who knows maybe you wanted to make alien

Well she IS an elven princess. I explained it in another thread but the elves are above the peak human, meaning they are stronger, faster, smarter, and (obviously) more in shape. Even the women are shredded, and stronger than a average male human.

>>6362279
YUP lol

>>6362275
wow im disabled, he has part 2 posted before part 1 on the channel, probably should have paid more attention and done that first

>>6362223
>>6362270
>>6362212
This is more or less the thing I would like to make

>>6362296
Composition, framing, tangents, contrast.

>>6362293
Don't worry it almost caught me out too, highly recommend going through the exercises and have a look at his portrait rendering tutorial for more on how he handles edges.

>>6362000
you're supposed to reference something that's way above your skill level bro

>>6362307
will do, thanks legend

Should I be worried for using random pictures from /s/ or /b/ as reference and then posting them online? Can people track me down and sue me for using a likeness in my art?

When do I know if I’ve moved out of low beg

>>6362437
If you can draw hands and feet 100% correctly you are automatically high beg.

To be out of beg, just compare your work to others on your skill level and if you are miles upon miles better, then you will know

any tips? breasts seem to look ugly the most

>>6362447
>If you can draw hands and feet 100% correctly you are automatically high beg.
This is like saying you have to hit 1/2/3/4 to not be a DYEL.

was following a robert marzullo video on yt and realized i have 0 clue how to add color to an image

does ctrl+paint help learn to color an illust?

I have an intuos pro large but I have literally no room for it on my desk. What can I do? Like how bad is it if I put it in my lap?

Any critique before linework?

Quick

MIKU MIKU MIKU

>>6362499
hot

>>6362496
Bumping pls
Picrel is my real desk, just out of focus

>>6362496
>>6362666
Wait I'm just retarded, I didn't realize there's only like 4 new posts

>>6362684
gmi

I don't rike et

>>6362496
You can use VESA arm, I guess

>>6362067
>>6362092
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1KChusZ2l9U

I'll draw a shit-ass face that's too long if I want to. Next time, it'll be even better. Mayhaps even after I watch some Loomis shit on YT and/or books, I'll do an angle.

>>6362732
I was following what I know of Loomis to make the face. But reference lady's face is more rounded and has actual lighting on it. My shading makes her look too flat. I went light on the shading, but should have done more.

>>6362472

>>6362732
>>6362738
I tried to fix her but I think the "bones" of my original drawing are too bad. I'll try gridding her again later.

>>6362741
Is this a joke

>>6362752
No I'm just trash tier.

>>6362758
Where's the loomis??

>>6362759
Too light and erased/smudged away. I didn't leave the circles because real people don't have circles on their faces like that.
Anon challenged me (someone who hadn't drawn any faces before) to draw a face. So I did it! I see lots of mistakes and will do some studies before I try again. But when I do try again, I'll have a better face.

>>6362305
not the same anon but these sound interesting
where could I found a reliable source of information about this?

>>6362782
framed ink 1 and 2

How long does it take to get used to a drawing tablet?

>>6362806
Thank you!

>>6362608
OMW to fucking make it

I’ve been drawing for 3 years and I feel like my anatomy and drawing hair still looks bad from my eye. What should I do to see more improvement?

>>6362872
draw two hundred pictures where you focus on hair

draw two hundred pictures where you focus on anatomy

Why am I stuck in /beg/dom ic?

>>6362880
you've got appeal but seem to know nothing about rendering

It‘s so frustrating drawing looking up faces.

>>6362732
lmfao i hope this has humbled you from those roses. only another 200 of those shit faces before you get something somewhat passable

i got pressure sens working in paint tool sai by pirating a newer version of paint tool sai off of cgpeers.

>>6362154
is that a dildo

>>6362963
You're trying to get me to quit. I know exactly where I am and was not under any illusion that doing something I hadn't ever practiced would be good.
I'm working my way up to good shit. Why don't you post your portfolio, then?

>>6361812
You shouldn’t.

>>6362437
Should I ink this? Quick lil mock-up of what that’d look like
Idk what do you guys think

Twitter's almighty algorithm occasionally shows tweets of little mini tutorials (like pic related) that aren't always super helpful, but often give me a place to start for the day and get the drawing muscles moving.

The issue is, that twitter fucking sucks for curating a list of something like this without just creating a dedicated art tutorial twitter acct as I don't want to fuck up my normal acct. Is there some other site that congregates these types of bite-sized tutorials?

>>6363026
pinterest

>>6363044
>>6363026
Ditto on this
Pinterest kinda underrated

>>6362963
kys

how fucked is the foreshortening?

>>6363099
Looks fine, I'd worry more about the fingers.

drawing fat "people" is hard because you have to look at them

>>6363129
My kink is fat girls so it ain’t a problem for me

Drew a rhino today

>>6363140
Legs are too long, it's right ear too low. Also check the rear leg in your reference

>>6363150
Will do, thanks

>>6363140
I like a lot of this but the front legs, especially the Rhino's front left leg I lose a lot of the FEEL THE FORM that you have elsewhere in the image. I'm not sure what you used as a reference but some subtle lines to help describe this shape could go a long way.

>>6362977
bro i’m not trying to get you to quit at all. i apologize i came off that way!

Hampton chad here

>>6361811
keep doodling like that for another decade, eventually you'll become decent.

>>6362215
the boobs look like the fur is a shirt or a suit over her tits instead of actual lopunny tits. fix this. also the head looks a tiny bit off center.
that being said, love this animal. the bnuy.

>>6363234
Based, gmi

Drew Stolas stoned to death.

>>6362270
Shit skills but more artistry than 99% of /ic/

no pingas version

>>6363303
>>6363316
Are you a woman

>>6362475
bro you gotta show your attempt for crits

>>6362553
beancel spotted

>>6362807
use mouse or ngmi

>>6363014
Looks good like that, move on to another piece, don't stall.

>>6363303
woman moment

>>6362933
cause you is drawin em sideways

shit is wack yo

>>6363458
very cute and expressive! I wonder how she came to all that money
>>6363454
better fundies than me

>>6363303
>>6363316
why did I laugh

>>6362086
i stopped posting mine a while ago; you're likely to get zero feedback or even a "cool" (You) if you don't post tranime or if you do /trad/

am i beg/int

I’m still drawing shapes and drawing them in 3D has got me into learning perspective.
Should I delve deeper into perspective and get really good at it with my shapes or start trying construction of figures and objects as the next step and return to perspective stuff later?

>>6363513
Definitely start practicing construction of figures and objects in a 3D space.

Perspective comes later.

Krenz study and random sketches
A4KPSD

>>6363502
No.

Which perspective book is better?

Perspective made easy or Perspective drawing handbook?

>>6363567
just pick one and go

>>6363547
do you find his method helps when you do your own work?

Here I go again. But I won't give up this time.

dios mio, la creatura

>>6363585
Which method do you refer to exactly? I barely read part 1 of his color course so i'm just coping his work at this point.

Any tips on how to start coloring this? Videos on YT are all shit.

>>6363600
Pick a book on coloring?

DO NOT FALL FOR THE TIMED FIGURE DRAWING MEME AS A /BEG/. TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TO FINISH OR ELSE EVERY UNTIMED FIGURE DRAWING YOU DO WILL BE RUSHED AND BAD.

Finished my first sketchbook. Displaying it turned to my idealized self portrait.

>>6363628
what's a good one?

>>6363597
Krenz, I want to learn colour

>>6363358
Funny.

>>6363676
Well it's enough useful info there but don't expect it to teach you some hidden forbidden knowledge which will instantly make you good at picking colors
Also if you are complete beg you might find his methods too complex

>>6363600
what's happening here? based on story, pick a light source and color design. go from there

here's some ideas for lighting

How did I do?

"Dad's Armor" I don't know how I end up drawing things like this by accident. I just doodle shapes and it ends up turning into this. I wish I could do it on purpose for things I want to draw.

Trying to imitate the art that Bob Rafei made for Jak & Daxter.

>>6363706
please stop drawing forever

Aimless sketches during my job's neverending and mostly pointless online meetings; just toying around with my long list of weaknesses. I Should probably just pick one and focus in on it for a while.

its kind of weird to shade black clothes, not sure about how dark it should get, the fact that the suit material is opaque doesn't really help

Posting just to get used to uploading stuff.
Lineart based on https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3763400

>>6363744
the clothes aren't that important look at the face

>>6363752
what of it?

>>6363745
I might ask while I'm here. I feel like it's very hard for me to grasp the properties of objects. As in I look at something, I can see the height, width, area, distortion angles and distance between the different points, but every time I try to draw it it, it comes looking off. Is there anything beyond "keep drawing" to making this work?

>>6363768
no actually
every time you make a conscious effort to do your best at drawing, you train your artistic brain and eye much like a muscle when weight lifting

the more you do it the more you'll improve, as long as you're consciously trying

Some practice from How to Draw Comics the Marvel way.

I already realize his hips aren't tilted enough. Onto the next one!

Drawn my friend as frazettaesque barbarian.
Scared of doing the shading tho, should I just do cel shading?

>>6363780
draw through what you can't see, the left arm is detached

>>6363783
Definitely should of done that. Looking at the left arm it looked weird, even in the reference.

>>6363785
wish I still had a copy of this book.

>>6363487
His right hand doesn't seem to match up with his right arm
His right arm doesn't seem to naturally move with his right chest.
His face doesn't seem to be structured right, especially the face.
There is no light on his face unlike the rest of his body.
Cool art though.

>>6363782
why did you reference a moai for the head?

>>6363798
In the reference pic he's munching on something but I kinda went with it since it looks like he's trying to make the chad face and also makes him look like a troglodyte barbarian

>>6363773
Guess I'll just have to grind then, thank you.

dear beg, euthanize me please

>>6363782
whatever you are using for line stabilization, its way too strong. Its painfully visible on all curves, most on her legs. With enough drawn kilometres your hand will get better at making steady clean lines. With such strong stabilization you probably wont ever master it
>>6363587
good start at keys to drawing! Now to keep up the quality + effort! I wish you good patience anon, you gonna need it
>>6363026
every single website (even the porn ones like ehentai) about art has tags and there is always tag like howto or tutorial
https://www.deviantart.com/topic/tutorials
but be warned that hoarding tutorials never taught anyone how to draw
>>6362880
idk but she is very smug and cute
>>6362872
idk about anatomy but you hair dont follow any form or shape and thats what makes it look bad. Check keys to drawing, it has chapter called textures and one of that are how to draw hair
>>6362436
unless you will trace it 1:1 nobody will ever know and even if you will, chances are very low some bored anon will go full autism mode to find the original drawing

Question to anyone here with a grasp on figure drawing. I can more or less draw an anatomically correct figure but it can take me 30-40 minutes of adjusting and correcting things to even get to that point . I'm blown away by how some people can churn out a figure in less than 5 minutes. How do you even get to this point?

>>6363846
Start settings faster time limits and rep it out.

>>6363860
heh. I guess it always comes back to gesture drawing. cheers.

>>6363701
why did you bother with this schizo

Criticism and critique appreciated

>>6363744
try using different colors for those shadows to make the pic pop more.
also her lower lip is huge, it makes her look autistic

>>6363913
stfu. anon is making /ic/ a better place with posts like that.

>>6363913
good question when that one schizo has spammed a dozen threads already

>>6363802
kek, GMI

>>6363918
no he didn't, he spent too much time on someone that shits up every thread with his shit drawings, lashing out at anyone who actually gives him criticism

>>6363934
idk who you think I am but im rather new to /ic/...

>>6363953
if you're the guy that did the rendering for the schizo, you're a nice person, don't waste your time like that again though, this fucker is a perma/beg/

some doodles

>>6363959
again, im the one who drew the elf. Idk why you are calling me a schizo when im a newfag to /ic/

>>6363934
Regardless, all beginners itt can learn from posts like that. It not just for the beg who got the paint over.

>>6364012
nta but It's funny that you've somehow managed to ruin your reputation on an anonymous image board by being a complete autist.

>>6364016
wha- this is literally the first image ive posted on this board wtf are you talking about???

>>6364020
I'm referring to the marc brunet schizo that's been spamming his 3 drawings in every other thread for the last week. Ignore me

>>6364025
oh. idk who that is but he sounds like a douche

Something more time intensive, pretty eh but enjoyable; nothing I could use to colour the hair to satisfaction at the moment.
Working on Terry later.

Can I get good at, at least, 1/2 of this list in under a year? Goal is looking to draw in a detailed anime style more comparable to manga or videogames concept/official artwork that more or less employs all fundies at once.
>Character art in general
>Good facial expression
>Detailed Armors, clothing and weapons
>Vehicles and mecha design
>NSFW
>Dynamic action scenes
>Ability to draw characters in a variety of angles employing intuitive perspective
The only fundie I am developing for now is getting a grasp on figures in general, but the proportions and shapes are still whack despite slowly getting better. What other things I'll have to study considering my goals? Any specific resource?

>>6364043
The reference, it's not a timed gesture btw

Getting frustrated with fundamentals such as perspective and line confidence. I'm not sure how many different directions I should be focusing on being able to draw or if I should get the muscle memory down well enough in just one direction before I attempt another.

Not sure if I'm drawing lines too fast or too slow either, damn it all to hell I just feel like I'm not really getting anywhere.

At least I sat down and practiced for 2 hours, hope I can keep myself consistent.
Another thing is everyone says I should be drawing for fun sometimes too instead of grinding but I'm such a beginner that I don't know how to even begin drawing what I want to.

>>6363914
it's in that murky beg area where it becomes very hard to describe the order in which things are misplaced since it's a lot of things that are slightly out of alignment in different ways relative to each other; it takes a lot of analysis to list individual mistakes which are definitely present since they can be caused by another mistake earlier in the chain, but it passes at first glance
like the right-hand side pupil appears more turned to the viewer than the closer left-hand eye, the trajectories for the eyelid lines being kind of arbitrary, the nose looking a bit too much like a trapezoid prism, minor things like that that add up across the piece, but at this rendering level it can pass as natural since it's within normal human variance, but that's not condusive to an accurate assessment of skill or how badly you deviated from your intentions or reference since the rendering resolution is so low
one problem that is identifiable is that your construction lines are too messy and not deliberate, it looks like you're doing the thing where you keep tweaking them until the line becomes thick enough to allow for a higher margin of error and approximation, not to say that you should be expected to draw solid construction lines as a beginner despite loomis taking crucial things like spatial recognition and perspective for granted, but it half-defeats the purpose of construction as a technique in my opinion; personally i've decided that i'm not ready to use it since i'm simply not good enough at spatial visualization and my line discipline is far too poor, i've been doing drawabox for that lately and i think it's helping
all that being said, it looks like what a completed beg exercise should look like i think, so do it again except faster and better

>>6363962
i'd doodle her, if you know what i mean

>>6364073
the answer is always "too fast"
even if you are making lines too slowly, you are doing them too slowly in a way that is too fast, this might not make sense but it is always true, for everything, not just drawing
your brain will always want to escape the difficult and uncertain as quickly as possible subconsciously, and then it will lie to your conscious self about it after the fact
i also can't draw a straight line(or any other kind of line) to save my life, and the only thing that helps is forcing myself to be "unconscious" while the line is being drawn, as soon as the hand starts moving you have to stop existing and become a lizard, it's tough and it's why stupid people have pretty handwriting
as for drawing for fun, i'm sure there's at least one cartoon network character you want to fuck, apply yourself, no one draws stock portraits of pouty buff dudes for fun, "fun" does not have deadlines, take the time that is needed, even if it's days

>>6364050
the answer is always "too fast"
even if you are making lines too slowly, you are doing them too slowly in a way that is too fast, this might not make sense but it is always true, for everything, not just drawing
your brain will always want to escape the difficult and uncertain as quickly as possible subconsciously, and then it will lie to your conscious self about it after the fact
i also can't draw a straight line(or any other kind of line) to save my life, and the only thing that helps is forcing myself to be "unconscious" while the line is being drawn, as soon as the hand starts moving you have to stop existing and become a lizard, it's tough and it's why stupid people have pretty handwriting
as for drawing for fun, i'm sure there's at least one cartoon network character you want to fuck, apply yourself, no one draws stock portraits of pouty buff dudes for fun, "fun" does not have deadlines, take the time that is needed, even if it's days

>no one draws stock photos of pouty buff dudes because it's fun.
but it is though...

>>6364093
it's the same kind of fun you have when you solo queue for the 25th consecutive blood pressure spike of the day in dota or csgo, or your 22nd hour of grinding rare boars for your currently necessary flavor of underwear transmog in an mmo
assuming you're not a homo anyway, it's the kind of fun that drains the SOUL

>>6364110
I just like comparing my muscles with theirs, it's easier.
I don't get the grinding gamer references or blood pressure problems.

>>6364089
But I don't want to fuck cartoon characters, I wanna fuck pouty buff dudes.

>>6364142
Then search on boorus and copy pouty buff dudes you do like. You have to like SOME piece of art. Copy it. If you literally have no idea, google "famous artists", look at their art and try to draw (or paint or whatever you want to git gud at) their pieces.
Draw the scream, draw starry night, draw a butt, draw Arnold as the Terminator or your favorite buff dude.
Then post it somewhere and practice something fundamental. Then draw Arnie again.
Do you like anything like Magic the Gathering? Copy your favorite cards. Do you like any TV, movies, comics, anime or ANY VISUAL MEDIA EVER?

I traced a butt from gelbooru to practice shading, put it on my snapchat and got a ton of accolades. The next chapter in the drawing book I'm using is drawing a fucking cylinder. I'm still basic.

heres some stuff ive been working on today c:

forgot to attach lol

>>6364020
uh huh you just happen to draw the same way right

>>6364050
>Not sure if I'm drawing lines too fast or too slow either
Draw a straight line with a ruler. Now draw on top of the straight line as you would in a drawing. If the line is wobbly you're going too slow, if the line is off course you're going too fast. adjust speed until you find what's right.

guard guy

Decided to try studying what I actually wanted to draw rather than grinding fundies mindlessly. Drew it pretty small and msotly focusin on the core shapes, but I'd say it came out decently.

>>6364365
What is he guarding?

>>6364365
very old classic runescapey.
(I haven't played runescape)

>>6364365
legs are short but maybe that's intentional, it also looks like he's off balance because his right foot is too far back
>>6364370
the cylinder is too small and the turbine is not the same perspective as your reference

He was our Elvis.

>>6364395
soul
thoughts on Tekken and Soul Calibur?

>>6364423
I love Tekken to death, SC1 and 2 are fantastic.

>>6364329
>that knight
I would

>>6362499
breasts long
spine might be broken
knee seems a bit thick

>>6364344
how does he draw? i dont know any of you, and idk why im being accused of being someone im not.

What would I gain from disguising myself as another person (especially on god dam 4chan)?

>>6364440
work on line weight and use pen pressure

>>6364429
i will draw her next

>>6364474
Nah, my forms etc are pretty shit.
First that.
Also I'm going for animation so you can't really use those in animation.

>no fundies
>practice fundies
>can't draw what i want because its not relevant to the fundies
Aaaaahhh

>>6364372
I didn't think that far ahead, so thanks, you forced me to push further
>>6364374
me neither, but I like mmos, so thanks
>>6364381
you're right, thank you

>>6364586
>you forced me
I'm sorry.

>>6364630
lol. esl moment. meant that in a good way

I'M HAPPY, I GOT STUCK LIKE 2 AND A HALF HOURS IN TRAFFIC SO I DREW UNTIL MY SANITY EVAPORATED

But from the madness, kino is born.

>>6364648
He's also there

>>6364652
>>6364648
Her right hand will forever haunt me though, the drawing instantly improves if I hadn't drawn it. It just needed to be sticking out showing some wrist like the pose in the other arm but I feared making it too long since the sleeve was longer already. I should have committed to that mistake instead of just drawing it there like it's tacked on.

>>6364584
draw what you want too
it's important to enjoy your art, and its a good time to apply what you're learning

Is using a watermark cringe

>>6364729
on top of a signature/logo? yes
no signature/logo? retard

>>6361801
When you're drawing hands, you draw the fingers first or the parts in between them first?

>>6364745
don't call me retarded >:(

>>6364781
You like that you fucking retard?

>>6361801
Can someone redline this?
I'm having a headache trying to figure out how te foreshortening here works

>>6364984
cover up the left foot and imagine where it should be

what did i do wrong?

>>6365062
The hip is too high

>>6365085
do you have any social media
im interested in how this schizo artstyle develops
also the eyes are off

haven’t picked up a pencil in forever and tried to draw some dumb rock. would probably look more interesting if i understood the first thing about shading. if there’s any bit of advice to be given about this, please halp

>>6365113
the schizo is getting better.

>>6365112
reference

>>6365112
try shading it because this is you
>I'm trying to shade this rock correctly
>here's my unshaded rock

>>6365113
soul

Was messing around tracing a photo and then kinda tried to copy it without trying to catch all these complicated curves. Not a decent result even considering it's a lazy sketch, but the face I ended up drawing cracks me up, it's so goofy and smug at same time.

Messing around with a 003 micron, need to buy some others

DRINK DRINK DRINK IT ALL YOU FUCKING PUSSY DRINK DRINK DRINK

--please drink responsibly

>>6365266
no thoughts, head empty

Betty.

>>6365088
>mspaint scribbles are now a "schizo artstyle"
i'm getting too old for this site

>>6365278
are you a woman?

>>6365279
Seems to be exactly that. It's cute.

smudge tool

Whos the jew that copy righted all the mega links? I had like 10 saved and only one works now (was fine yesterday)

I need to draw more. I need to git gid

>>6365330
Gambare

>>6365324
Some asshurt techbro, probably.

>>6365330
Why is ghetsis cut? He’s totally uncut. Retard.

>>6361801
Alright boys. What am I fucking up and how can I improve?

>>6365440
you use a million lines for one line anon. practice your lines till you can do circles and ellipses, straight and curved lines in one stroke

>>6361801
I just coomed to my own art and it was a really strange feeling. It was like the art wasnt mine. wtf

>>6365440
Perspective

>>6365458
Quit complaining about the lines
It comes naturally with skill

for now, his fault is not understanding perspective

>>6365472
>Perspective
How do newbs learn that?

>>6365472
Whoops. Missed the handle

>>6365476
Draw a cube

Hi /beg/.
How is your doohinkus doing today?

>>6365440
As the other anon said you're using too many chicken scracth lines. It's okay to retry a line a few times to find exactly where you want a line to go, but your hen-pecking approach isn't doing you any favors.

If every time you wanted to draw a basic cylinder you had to lay down 100 little strokes, first of all it would be tedious as hell, and secondly your brain can't actually learn anything if it takes 1,000 steps to get there. Your hand is probably so used to writing letters in tiny strokes that it doesn't have a 'drawing mode' yet. Rather than try to incrementally get the right line by tip-toeing your way down the edge (which in my experience is like trying to write a long sentence on unlined paper without drifting up or down) you're better off practicing longer strokes. so instead of spending 1,000 lines drawing one cup, do it in four (top circle/ellipse, left edge, right edge, bottom). Then just try to do that four line cup several times over. It's going to be uncomfortable at first, but just practice it every now and then and remember to draw from your shoulder, not your wrist.

If you're still confused try watching some videos on YouTube about line control.

>>6365440
Ignore the retard telling you to learn perspective. First off you are chicken scratching. Try your best to do long lines instead of short ones. This might be happening because you are drawing with your wrist instead of your arm+shoulder. You are also symbol drawing meaning you arent actually drawing what you see only what you think you see. Read keys to drawing and draw without using your wrist as much

>>6365513
>>6365472
>I wanna lose weight? How do I go about it?
>”Do this thing, it’s guaranteed to make you shed pounds.”
>”NO YOU WON’T LOSE WEIGHT UNLESS YOU DO MY SUPER SPECIFIC WORKOUT THAT IS SUPER TEDIOUS AND……………….”
holy kek, no wonder we are all so shit at art

>>6365503
I made one rectangle today because I'm tired out, I did do some gestures yesterday but I didn't save that for whatever reason.

>>6365513
>>6365542
Listen
Complaining about chicken lines is like complaining about being fat

It is a sign that you are not healthy but it is not the problem.

Seriously. Watch the end of his webm.
Perspective is the only thing wrong in his cup and that's it

>>6365477
>>6365458
>>6365472
This is my pathetic attempt at drawing a box i had laying around. What should I have done differently? I'm thinking of drawing a cylindrical candle next

>>6365513
>>6365560
See >>6365579
Please

>>6365568
how the fuck is someone gonna learn perspective if they cant even draw a cohesive line?

>>6365579
Stay with straight lines for now and draw skyscrapers at different angles

>>6365583
An incohesive line IS a sign that you are not understanding what you are drawing in the first place, duffus.

Once you understand what you are drawing, that's when confidence shows itself

Lots are wrong I know

The perspective on the guy on the right’s fucked, I gave up on perpsective in general on the left guy, and then just doodled what I was going to draw later, the little goblin’s supposed to be bigger, the hands the horrible infernal hands, the feet were sort of working about 20 erases and ‘fixes’ a while ago, (actually in general why DOES trying to fix something more than about three times just destroys the art, just makes the shit unsalvageable, makes you want to crumple the whole goddamn thing up and kill yourself?)

I was trying to have this guy be like a more feral Black Noir just looking all stumbly and out of it until the crooks get close and then he swings about his staff and kicks their but all cool like, and I do want to eventually make a better version for /co/ (literally the only thing I want from art is to ape a cartoon show’s style to provide pictures to my AU fanfic) so is there anything else I missed? I got Fun with a Pencil, I know I should just do the whole book before I dare make an art or something but I kind of told the thread I was going to make this and I’d like to give them a better version.

>>6365579
There's no reason not to practice both, pick a perspective book and do some line exercises too. I think the Dynamic Bible goes over a both

>>6365601
Sort of unrelated but I guess I’ll put this out too I was trying to get shovelhead here’s face to look more excited to kill and I couldn’t figure out how to do it. i figured out how to make the mustache expressive but the eyes elude me (then adhd brain got hung up on the croissant thing and doodled anime demon thug highschool girls talking about boys)

This is literally all I want to do with art, all I ever wanted to do, make the silly people on the cartoon show or the internet parody match the brain animatics and quips I imagine.

I get WHY I need to learn how to draw normal people but I hate it. I don’t want to make still life, I want to make animes make out and punch their dads.

>>6365602
>>6365583
>>6365580
>>6365579
>>6365568
>>6365560
>>6365513
>>6365477
>>6365476
>>6365472
>>6365458
>>6365440

Update. Just tried to draw a candle. Any useful critique?

>>6364984
I kept on trying to figure out how this pose works.
I think I finally got the basic idea. After so many trial and effort

Work sketch. Noticing that all of my imagination figure drawings have this certain look. Don't know that I care for it.

>>6365627
try drawing the ellipse the top of the of the candle makes as an ellipse.
just in general, try drawing several cylinders with not using 4000 lines until it becomes easy to you.

>>6365638
anon her legs start one mile apart

>>6365627
>>6365579
Did you read the /ic/ sticky before posting here? Asking for feedback is not bad but you have to ask for specific feedback to make it easier to the person helping you.
In order for you to at least know what feedback what to ask for, you get the theory from recommended material from the sticky.

The most glaring concern that I think you have is your use of lines. Build them confidently, in a single stroke. Try tracing first if you're not used to that input device you're using.

>>6365645
Better?

>>6365601
>>6365623
Oh right general help
1. How do I make shovelbadguy look more excited to stab the psycho mask boy?
2. What’s the emotional theory on pitching? Is that the right word? Should I draw it more like looking down at them to draw the thugs surrounding him or some other angle for the viewer
3. Shoulder drawing is fucking impossible for doodling in the small shit, why is using my wrist bad for that?
4. WHY are hands and feet so fucking awful to draw?

Pic unrelated it’s something I did earlier (I know Chadrus looks flounder faced, that’s retroactively on purpose)

>>6365338
>>243981595

>>6365338
Is this you? Or another anon? I can't find them. I wanted to see if the documented their process in any form.

>>6365699
Yes, that's me
Just go to desuarchive and search December Faggot
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/243979965/#243981595

By december/jan, I would draw the faggot deepthroating this post

>>6365692
NTA but it's from /a/, you can use desuarchive or try to crosslink

Didn't came out as good as the feet, I've draw better hands at this exercise too. But this will do for tonight. I think I should've focused on bigger shapes instead of just following the lines.

which brush is hard round in cap?

>>6365703
I'm just a dummy that can barely manage to restart a device when something's wrong.
Your progress is very impressive. Do you have any documentation of your process, how you improved, what you did or anything of the sort? Anything you've written or videos you've made?

>make pic related
>feel good about it
>flip page
>puke
How do I fix this?

>>6365731
good time to learn the liquify tool

>>6365731
flip it more often

Hi beg, i present you my utter failure of long study of drapery. It looks like modern art. Lmao

>>6365708
Keep going anon, grab the keys!
>>6365670
Using wrist isnt bad. Depending on the angle, pressure, length, curve and style of line you need to dynamically change between wrist, elbow and shoulder. Different tools for different problems so to speak. Some people ignore ergonomics, then get carpal tunnel or other injury and blame using wrist for it and thinking if they used shoulder then they wouldnt get injured. (They would, but instead of wrist their spine would explode). Good ergonomics and streching is what keeps you safe.
Hands are difficult because each finger is essentially a new arm. Lots and lots of complexity for small payout. Feet are just awkward because you arent used to seeing them 24/7 like you do with human faces and bodies
>>6365503
art is pain. it hurts. Btw making women 8 heads tall... average woman is way way shorter than that.
>>6365313
i kneel in front of your creativity
>>6365307
you have no values. turn it into gray scale and notice its all same gray
>>6365281
INT?
>>6364659
thumbs up!

>>6365731
complete beg here explain the flip meme please

>>6365627
>>6365641
>>6365646
>>6365579
>>6365440
>>6361801


Update 2: I think my kine "confidence " is improving. Thoughts? WHT could I do to make this look cleaner and more realistic?

after some pillow talk I realized I didn't like the rendering so far, so I redid the entire thing. Not sure why it feels so different now, I think is because i applied ambient occlusión really close to the lineart, then lowered the opacity of the former by half.

>>6365812
does this program have a stabilizer?

>>6365824
As in making the lines look straight automatically? Yes but I'm trying not to rely on that too heavily.

>>6365817
please change the rendering on the face
i can't tell you what's wrong but just try multiple different methods
unless you're truly satisfied with that

>>6364749
start with the overall form using basic shapes. loomis method is particularly helpful for hands

>>6365812
Anything else I should fix with this?

Today's warm-up from the Marvel book. No clue why the angle of the front leg is fucking me up so much.

Which threads on /ic/ are good for day 1 drawers?

>>6365919

>>6365803
when you're drawing something your brain gets accustomed to what you're drawing so that it looks normal, when you flip the canvas it's like a new picture so you see the mistakes your brain tuned out.
>>6365907
it's a cylinder, what is there to say. You've already received all the advice you'd need it's just a matter of practicing.

>>6365990
damn brains, thank you

>>6365938
this one

NEW THREAD
>>6366402
>>6366402
>>6366402

>>6365720
Exercise and good rest would do wonders to your improvement
Exercise increases blood and oxygen supply for the brain
Rest is the part where memory gets crystallized. It's the most vital one and always make sure you get lots of it.

That's all you need to increase your rate of learning. 1 hour of workout can reduce your needed training time by 10 hours if not more.

Just discipline and question your actions later.
(Pondering your actions for too long would always result in a negative as you are inclined to favor keeping the status quo than risking it for a better future.)

That's it.
Lvl 0 of art is the HARDEST level
Once you break lvl 1, your rate of improvement shall snowball like you won't believe