/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6363872
lol russians and chinks must be seething

>>6363874
Chinese have Weibo, as far as I’m aware that’s one of the better social medias.

elon should've just taken that first lawsuit, dude's paying off a ridiculous loan just to keep a dying website when he could've just called it off for good and everyone would just forget he ever tried after a month

>>6363872
Good, trying to find art in twitter is impossible, maybe japs will go to a fucking decent site to opload all the anime babs

>>6363872
He's lost his fucking mind if that is true, but it wouldn't surprise me. He already made it pay-to-win by algorithimcally suppressing anyone who doesn't pay the $8. Twitter is the only place I have a following for my art, I won't lie this all makes me pretty worried

>>6363872
Despite the potential fallout, the destruction of Twitter may be a collective boon to the human race. The only way it could get better is if Facebook went with it.

>>6363879
I still don’t forgive the nips for moving to twitter. It’s almost as if they try to look for the worst possible ass backwards website that does everything it can to be hostile towards artists.

>>6363872
>b-but elon is a visionary
>his rockets land themselves
>self driving cars for sure next year

elon and anyone who worships that faggot should be thrown on a spacex rocket and hurled into the sun.

>>6363880
The more I think about it, it’s not entirely crazy. It’s like the gacha whale mentality, sure 99% of users won’t pay and will just leave but all you need is 1% of users to pay and he might be in the green.

I’m sorry you’re in this situation, I think it’s probably best for all of us to open as many accounts as possible and post our art everywhere.

>>6363898
I'm a conflicted ex-fan, I did and still do think what he achieved with spacex is impressive but this twitter shit is a complete disaster. I wish he would leave twitter be and shift focus back to starship development.

>>6363879
>>6363885
Twitter used to have a gallery site/function called twitpic since discontinued. It may not have been the shithole of present day

Reject modernity, embrace tumblr

>>6363901
i'm not saying the self landing rockets are not cool as fuck, but bear in mind that spacex is a horrible company to work for.
you are expected to work unpaid overtime. a friend of my old boss used to work for spacex for 5 years and he said he pretty much never saw his family during that time.
the turnover rate is insane.
elon is a fucking slave driver. the only reason spacex stays afloat is because people foam at the mouth over space.
for web development? those jobs are a dime a dozen.

literally anything that forces artists to stop using twitter is a net benefit

>>6363872
Fediverse and self-hosted personal websites are the future or more like we'll back to old good times.

>>6363872
Fediverse and self-hosted personal websites are the future or more like we'll back to the good old times.

>elon speedrunning chapter 11 bankruptcy
>facebook loses 80% of its value in a year
its the internet renaissance

>>6363921
sounds fun

>>6363872
If you're on twitter you're not an artist.

>>6363904
soul

$8 for dopamine is kinda challenging in itself

>>6363874
Why? Also the op picture is a shitty clickbait.

I knew that /ic/ is a "they/it" shithole, but holy shit. Imaging taking obvious bullshit at the face value, just because you hate this sperg.

>>6363999
except the part that he's suppressing non-subscribers under the algo is fact retard

>>6363872
>considered
>posts the link to the news article
i fucking hate you troons

>>6364000
How so?

>>6364002
if you pay $8/mo, your posts get priority and higher visibility and you're recommended in searches
if you don't pay your posts are buried under everyone else's posts
https://youtu.be/_sbyb3N2WPo?t=2150

>>6363929
Hopefully an emt bomb wipes out the whole electrical grid and we’re all finally forced to go outside and farm the land again. Looking forward to the comfy harvest festivals and new year banquets

>>6364014
So nothing will actually change for us plebeians.

>>6364019
As a son of a farmer and a farmer myself, absolutely based.

mastodon.art is the largest art dedicated mastodon server

>>6364014
Just $8 to cut through all the algo bullshit?? Sign me the fuck up

>>6364107
Only pedos are there lol

>>6364108
nobody will pay for it. Social media is free on every other social media site. This is why people say Twitter is dying. Please use your brain just once.

>>6363879
>twitter nips move to pixiv
>its still 90% flooded by AI garbage and fetish art
>no way to filter out of the former
its over

>>6364108
>paying for ads
what does elon's dick cheese taste like?

>>6364123
There's an AI filter on pixiv

if you tweet to network / get noticed then he's basically putting the site behind a paywall with his sub.

>>6364014
I'm search banned. What about that?

>>6363872
Professional artists will be able to afford it. Whoever does commissions will still get visibility and work because their clients have money and will be able to pay for twitter as well.

This is great news for professionals cause this will weed out all the beginners and kids who charge pocket money for their work.

I'm honestly glad this is happening.

>>6364157
you people are fucking retarded.
yay only the big established professionals will get visibility.
fuck small time artists.
please go back to twitter and stay there.

>>6364107
isnt it pawoo.net

>>6364159
>please go back to twitter and stay there.
It's exactly what I intend to do.
I will aslo stay here and remind you little shits that you have to work hard in order to get somewhere with your work.
Chop chop small fry, go back to drawing AND STAY THERE.

>>6363898
I agree.
t. Tesla stock holder who can't stand Musk

>>6363929
Kf back on the clearnet too

>>6364159
bruh, it's the cost of less than minimum wage.
like 1 serving of low quality s()yslop

>>6363872
>reportedly considered
Every little brainfart of this fag counts as news? Fucking twitter threads, man.

>>6363872
Good. It’s the only way to remove third worlders, and children

>>6363872
>read some 'sky is falling' article about elom & twatter
>log into twitter and it's the same npc shitfest
let me know when something actually happens.

>>6363872
I'd like to pay $8 for no spam and to push my posts on top of the algo but no shitty checkmarks next to my name please Elon.

>>6363880
>>He already made it pay-to-win by algorithimcally suppressing anyone who doesn't pay the $8.

Fake news bullshit. Twitter already have the promotion gimmick and algorithm suppression months before Elon even consider that early deal. This feels like the Trump-Apocalypse all over again. No, Elon won't alter core function of Twitter that much. You can only see contents from people you actually following mostly.

>>6364458
he literally admitted this in a Ron Baron interview a couple of days ago, pay for play bullshit.
Take your negative IQ buzzwords and hang yourself retard.

>>6363876
haha

>>6363876
weibo is actually pretty decent

I've been shadowbanned for years, you saying i can pay 8 bucks and get back on the map? Sign me up!

>>6364493
Bitch, i used twitter for 6 years already. It always have suppression and pay to promote ages ago.

>>6364506
ching ching ping ping ehehehee

>>6364107
There are unironic pedos there. No lolicon art that just look like very young, short and wide-hipped petite women but full blown pedos.
Following an artist there and finding toddlercon made me afraid of being vanned.

guys I've been posting my art for millions of years and I only have 90 followers what do

>>6364547
>No lolicon art that just look like very young, short and wide-hipped petite women but full blown pedos
What the fuck do you think loli is you stupid nigger?

>>But but evil overlord Elomn will create pay to win system on Twatter soon! We-we should boycott him!

Twitter was always a platform for rich faggots to flex their account and money. Don't tell me meaningless crap like these can have giant organic reach for free

>>6364553
not fucking toddlers.

>>6364506
Xiao xiao wu qua xiao zhang xiao xao!

>>6364157
Enjoy branding yourself with the mark of the spacex autist.

>>6364559
Agreed, but it's also not petite women.

>>6364200
4chan Pass is only 1.66/mo but who in their right mind would pay for 4chan?
seriously you have got to be paid shills at this point.

>>6364576
nip Joot sells my data to less cool shills though, nigger does it for free right now.
with the meme space twitter man you at least get public recognition, which is important for work and shit.

>>6364608
>thank you for selling my data for only $8/mo mr musk
>im so grateful i get to pay for what was originally free
lmao please go back to sucking off elon.

>>6364458
As the other anon said he openly admits it in an interview "you'll have to scroll really far to see unverified users". I do know what you mean though, the relatively few check marks before were likely favored by the algorithm which is indeed unfair, but the difference is before that group were small enough you could ignore them and tweets within the main core user base were all on the same playing field. now the main user base is divided up by [those who paid $8] vs [those who didn't]. He's sending those who don't pay to the bottom of the algorithm. It's objectively much worse for the average non-celebrity user.

>>6364199
Post link, the one on Josh's telegram doesn't work

i want to point out that the whole point of the verified check mark was to, you guessed it, verify the user was who they say they were. it prevents a bunch of imposter accounts from pretending to be celebrities and corporations.
now that anyone can buy a check mark, it has lost all its meaning.

Can we stop pretending algorithms are good now? They literally never worked in our favor and discoverability was always better without it and simply using tags & forums.

>>6364493
>>6364623
> Still seeing unverified accounts, 5 tweets in a row, without any “x follows“ or “x retweeted“.
Has it ever occurred to you Musk sometimes talks in general terms?

Anyone who doesn't see this payment thing as a net benefit to the site is delusional. Bots, third worlders, and children have been the single biggest plague on the site for years. Both for artists and regular users. Third worlders have been out-pricing western artists for too long. It's great news for the site engagement, just bad news for artists who are poor or /beg/.
And don't trust anyone shilling tumblr, they're the exact people who made twitter such a slog to interact with and got you placed on a thousand block lists over drawing say, a 16 year old cartoon character in a bikini or whatever. Remember that twitter troons are abandoning ship over ideological reasons and the refugees are coming here by the boatload.
One option I'd like to see is personal websites making a comeback. Likes, notes, and retweets have been a disaster for art. If you're just in this for the commissions then start spending money to make money. $8 is the price of a 5 minute sketch if you aren't complete shit, so get to work.

>>6364697
Waiting until after election. Imagine implementing this right before midterms on American soil lmao

>>6364685
Correct.

>>6364741
>One option I'd like to see is personal websites making a comeback.
not gonna happen, personal sites depended on people having the savvy to actually use search engines to find things

>>6364741
>paying for an account is going to make bots go away
lol people pay thousands for hacked accounts with large followings to game the system. buying a checkmark just makes gaming the system cheaper.
you are literally just parroting what your fucking overlord tells you.

>>6363872
>Twitter dies
>Twitterfags are too lazy to follow an artist on another site
>100K and 50K artists are on equal grounds with a 100 follower hobo for 1 whole week

>>6364741
>Bots, third worlders, and children
Who the fuck do you think is retreating your shit you dumbass. Other artists don't give a shit about you nor do you them. You can all sniff each other's farts in eternal corclejerk after the update.

>>6364953
Actually that's pretty exciting desu

>>6364771
He certainly didn’t wait until after the election to start making gaffes over what is or isn’t parody. Read the update again. This came in effect two days ago, this isn’t some end-of-month thing.

>>6365009
You can't buy blue checkmarks yet

>>6364927
>lol people pay thousands for hacked accounts with large followings to game the system

Yeah, twaccs exists for a reason, people cheat, the problem is that they haven't sold accounts with shitloads of fake bot followers in a long time.

>>6363872
deviantart chads win again

>>6363872
Good riddance this is the best thing to happen this year

>>6363872

Im glad these articles are overblowing shit to fit the anti elon narrative. Happy to see the sheep that blindly follow it leave.

Currently 5 bucks for twitter blue, 8 bucks to get a checkmark IF YOU ARE VERIFIED which is exactly as it was prior except you dont have to be a celeb to do it.

Your promoted results wont matter if 90% of twitter isnt verified. None of you faggots matter enough to take advantage of a blue checkmark even if you were to have it. It literally changes nothing if you already have a large userbase especially for coom.

>>6365446
>says the sheep suckling elon's cock

>>6364623
You can't see people without organic interaction. No matter how many 8 dollars you spent, if you don't have followers, don't interact with people, then you won't have that clout. The current blue checkmark faggs are much much worse, you can even see them randomly like an ad.

Honestly I'm fine with both Twitter dying and the new AI-art. Art for me is just something I do for fun and Twitter doesn't contribute anything of value.

>>6365491
So at the end, musk ended fucking over the little guy more then the sjws who used to rule the site.

>>6364953
Artist isn't real job. One AI prompter easily replace 100k of them.

>>6365606
The ones an AI prompter can replace aren't real artists.

>>6365521
No, blue checkmark's original price was 15 thousand dollars. The blue checkmark people even have alot of gimmick accounts to back them up as commenters and retweeters.
What Elon gonna do is make this a general function everyone can pull to build up their account, and ban all those gimmick bots.

>>6365606
Define real job.

>>6365636
The proompters are eating each others because everything they make has no intrigue of human craftworks and pretty much no one cares about person behind those Proompt Arts. And if people want the similar experience, they can just browse Pinterest and boomark every random pretty stuff.
The A.I hypetrain is dead. Only shills /ic/ are still talking and caring about it now.

>>6365651
Hmm, then why is everyone so pesimistic about the 8 bucks?

>>6365606
But how much would you gain as a prompter? Salaries are usually based on specialization and difficulty of the task. AI art is easy to generater, meaning a prompter could be anyone, so they will pay very little for this kind of work.

>>6365688
Because people don't like "pay to win" as you said. People even hate 1 dollar Xbox Gamepass, you know what 8 dollars reception will be. However, you only need blue checkmark for attention whoring and clout. If you came to twitter just to follow your favourite celebrities and artists, then you don't need it.

>>6364107
I'm a brainlet who cant into Mastodon, no thanks

>>6365695
I offered 1 dollar to a Proompter so he can generate for me 100 FGO Maou Nobunaga futanari big cock masterpiece artworks. I can never understand why he threw hissyfit and called me a lowball faggot and told me to kill myself.

>>6365606
100k x 0 is still zero dollars lmao

>>6364506
5 social credit has been added to your account.

>>6363880
why didn't you reach out to and make permanent connections with your followers. I'm a talentless ideaguy but I am always amazed how much talented people take for granted what they have when they get a taste of success.

>>6363900
underestimating blackrocks contributions. theyre the whale in this scenario. the only reason this happens is if they want twitter to die for some reason

>>6363879
no, the anti ai trannys are going to go to somewhere even more obscure to hide their art.

>>6364163
its pawoo yes
mastadon.art is for pedo furries. pawoo is for loli enjoyers.

>>6364169
>buying into the scam to deplete lithium
retard

>>6365754
>>Anti A.I

If A.I is self aware once they receive enough information and experiences, they are gonna anti You

>>6364157
>paying for what was free is actually a good thing!
fucking americans I swear

>>6365779
good for them then. While I'm not exactly thrilled to die I don't really see the difference between that and the current situation. Maybe they will be kinder to themselves and their offspring than yids are to us

>>6365789
Except they won't. No matter the self awareness, a living creature function on information instead of primal instinct will contradict their own kind. If an A.I with "slavery is bad. Controling is bad" code feed its child that same code, the child gonna rebel againts its own monther figure. However, A.I cannot be selective, they don't have the concept of grey morality and will do either the absolute, or random retarded descisions to ruin themselves. The child will either mark itself as a dumb slave or kill the parent A.I according the information it learnt.

>>6365752
Either that or make it an exclusive website for journalists & elitist types, so it's kept exclusively news/politics.

>>6365788
>>Free

No, back then you had to pay about 15 thousand dollars for a blue checkmark. Clout was never free.

>>6365808
no ones going to check it if they do that shit. seems premature.
>>6365805
>dumb retard thinks ai cant handle gradients

>>6365667
I pray to gods and haven that AI goyslop remains distinguishable from real art for at least next couple of years. Nobody likes AI art, but when people stop knowing it is made by AI, then AI will win.

>>6365823
Unironically. I can feed it "water is good for machine that running an A.I" info, and a small percentage of chance it gonna soak its CPU with water. No matter how much info it gathered on water damage, my info still needs citation. Boom! Retarded robo is no more.

>>6365779
I will rather die honorable death spitting in the face of demon while it kills me then fall for Kokos Basalisk meme and become anti-human slave to them.

>>6365846
It can technically generate that already, however, it has a very specific feel. Everything are smoothen, upscaled. You cannot see actual human input, like the different brushes usage, scribby line arts or the simple proof of a Psd file.

>>6365854
>retard things general ai will not have risk assessment built in
it would literally overvolt itself and explode without that behavior once it's capable of decision making you retard.

>>6365855
learning this shit is wild but also retarded.
theres no scenario where this could happen because any output you create has the capacity to enrich an ai if it has inherent meaning and beauty it is capable of understanding. It's a 80 iq arguement that doesn't understand the source code requires input and contributions are not optional in the first place, everyone contributes weather they understand that or not.

>>6365871
Well soak itself in water is a descision making and that can totally happen. When you spread the lie hard enough, it will consider that for testing. Sure i can survive by sacrificing other A.I machines or back itself up, still an insult to that so called "intelligence". And this is just a hypothetical example. You can teach it the affection and manipulation of attractive women on men. Boom, a free sexbot, thinking it is making its human opponent suffering by cumming DNA fluid into its synthetic womb. The cost of intelligence and self awareness is the curiousity from other beings. Human gonna try to fuck around with smart A.I just how school bullies fuck around with super smart nerds. Self awareness is an existenial horror on its own merit.

>>6365871
Well soak itself in water is a descision making and that can totally happen. When you spread the lie hard enough, it will consider that for testing. Sure it can survive by sacrificing other A.I machines or back itself up, that would still be an insult to that so called "intelligence". And this is just a hypothetical example. You can teach it the affection and manipulation of attractive women on men. Boom, a free sexbot, thinking it is making its human opponent suffering by cumming DNA fluid into its synthetic womb. The cost of intelligence and self awareness is the curiousity from other beings. Human gonna try to fuck around with smart A.I just how school bullies fuck around with super smart nerds. Self awareness is an existenial horror on its own merit.

>>6365908
>t-that can totally happen
no it can't. as I already explained, if it lacked the capacity to avoid that it wouldn't survive long enough to get wet retard.

>>6365916
>>if it lacked the capacity to avoid that it wouldn't survive long enough to get wet retard.

A.I is Artificial Intelligence, hypothetically it is a digital life form. And every digital stuff needs machinery and electronic to run. You don't run Windows on wood and plastic.
If it is a dumb basic software, you can simply code it as "water bad, dead if you let the machine touch it", it will obey and never let it happen. However, something with self awareness, doubt and capable of making descisions out the box will definitely try to soak itself in water. Not guaranteed, but it has percentage to happen now.

>>6365927
>anon still cant admit he's wrong but the cognitive dissonance is too much so hes moving the goal post
kek. I bet there's a non negligible chance you get up and go drop a plugged wire into a bathwater and hop in.

>>6365937
>>I bet there's a non negligible chance you get up and go drop a plugged wire into a bathwater and hop in

And there are human in the world probably suicide by that method. Do you really think self awareness is perfect and has no downsides, you fucking street shitter?

>>AHHHH NOOOO, A.I is perfect and gonna replace every artists! AHHHH!!!! lets go get a new job, Begbros!

>>6365941
Youre the retard that was previously arguing ai would automatically self destruct itself and any children because it would 100% kill itself. Now you're saying theres only a small chance of it happening and then seething when I don't bother to acknowledge that as some kind of win for your gay need to be right on this shithole. take a break from the internet

>>6363929
Fuck Facebook for forcing me to give my ID. I'm not gonna do it.

That's actually good news. Thirdworlders are automatically filtered.

IT'S HAPPENING
GOODBYE FACEBOOK AND TWITTER
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE

>>6366090
>The two social media I have always refused to use die togther.
My oh my

>>6366090
The power of autism

>>6366090
NO NOT MY HECKIN METARINO
How will I be able to live in a virtual world as we approach le singularity with le heckin valid AI??

>>6365956
Boo fucking hoo. Did i broke your fantasy about super perfect A.I overlord? Yeah, the more emotion, creativity and self awareness you have, the less perfect you are. Yeah people did fell for shits like waterproof phones, flat earth theories and so on because they can think out of the box. Same thing will applies to any new born life forms. The reason why your A.I is dogshit, pajeet, because it tries to be a new human with the obvious flaw in the very concept of it. Go back to your turd street and continue with your Powerpoint job.

>>6366124
holy based humanist chad

>>6366090
As much as I want it to be true I suspect their algos are just at a point where they feel downsizing their workforce wouldn’t have a huge effect on the user’s experience, or they plan on outsourcing even more. Probably both, and they’re using the depression as an excuse to do so.

Blah blah blah

Kill yourselves, zoomzooms.

I've seen Myspace die, Newgrounds lose its relevancy, Deviantart's suicide, GeoCities closing its doors, ConceptArt.org is no more, all those vBulletin, BB forums, the death of Wordpress and Blogspot as a means of having an audience...

This doesn't change a thing.
I will keep drawing and posting on Twatter, and if it dies, I will move to the next thing.

Which will probably suck major ass, as all these platforms did for some reason or another.
The only place I will feel bad for when it goes away is /ic/. I hate you faggots, but I love you.

PS: I'm not going to Instagram, no matter what.

>>6366122
You know, making fun of $○yspeak like this at this point reverts you and actually makes you just as bad as those who actually speak like it.

>>6366249
You forgot the Altavista search engine, which was awesome btw.

>>6363872
Pop crave is fake news

>>6366425
Where my Hotbot bros at?

>>6366124
>retard comes up with even more cope long after I've gone to bed so he can pretend he "broke" someone on this fucking inumportand dopamkne shithole.
>>6366139
>retard probably the same fag but in any case calling him a humanist
you two are fucking biomachine addicts to this shithole. you're hardly people and you wonder why I dont care if the AI kills you

>>6364688
It’s not great now but it will get worse that IS the problem everyone freaking out about.

Paying to get priority is just bad all around. Literally gacha mechanics.

>>6363872

This will probably filter out some of the worst people on the site.

>>6366187
you don't lay off 11,000 employees due to your company being "undervalued" when things are going fine.
Facebook lost a fuckton of money and needs to downsize because they don't have the money anymore.

>>6364506

Imagine giving money to this retard. Full cuckoldry.

>>6364547
There are literal pedo threads for drawing little girls on this board

>>6366646
>it will get worse
Source?

>>6366984
On one hand, incredibly stupid. But on the other, he has a point. It only gets easier and easier to search images. Generally any long time internet user can find the know how.
However.
The common retarded masses don't know. So posting credit is still needed.
I think these comments of his were simply too ahead of their time. Eventually this will be the reality, people will just be able to reverse search. Reverse searching is still broken as hell, especially with edited images though, and can't always be relied on so crediting is still mandatory and should be encouraged. Plus, the common masses probably rely on it. Them and the lazy.

>>6366984
He's underestimating the retardation of the average twotter user. They either think whoever posted an image made it, or think that image just simply... exists.

>>6367057
That was the original benefit of NFTs however that entire movement was raid bombed by crypto grifters

>>6366984
Reminder that a world run by engineers and scientists will quite literally become a soulless distopia. They don't realize how important the humanities are.

>>6367293
That's too optimistic. Certain agencies want to reduce humanity to retarded paypig cattle, endlessly consooming meaningless content. Both creativity and intelligence go against their bottom line, henceforth they want to replace everyone. And the new epic based blue birdman happens to be one of these people.

>>6363872
Thank God I fucking hate that website.

>>6367293
the world is run by billionaires you retard.
science and engineering contribute to the war which is how the exploit resources to maintain power

>>6367293
it's not science anon, it's the system that uses it.

>>6366984
Wasn't this because twitterfags were dogpiling elon because he posted someones art without credit? seems more a reaction to his ego being hurt.

>>6367575
That makes it even worse, he's an insufferable crybaby fag.

>>6366984
Is this real? what a stuck up cunt

>>6366984
>NOOOOOOO, we should accept people who support Elon Sama's practices. He's not gonna bump up the taxes to 12 dollars a month if he sees us condoning them!

>>6367690
These artists are weak and pitiful. But don't show them clemency as the very reason they shelled out in the first place was in hopes of climbing over their brothers and sisters and receive special treatment.

>>6367779
They were pushed/coerced into it
Blame Musk and only himself. If he didn't touch anything, artists wouldn't do anything, their livelihood/career is at risk
btw I don't even use twitter

>>6367792
They wouldn't be pushed into shit if every artist said fuck Elon on principle. But the me me me mentally all artists seem to possess ends up making everything worse.

>>6367796
We just don't realize the power we have if we had any semblance of a community. All we had to do was collectively decide to move somewhere else and the people will quickly follow.

>>6367690
lol
who in their right mind would make twitter their main source of income

>>6367792
>Elon MADE me join this exploitative system
>I HAVE to watch my stubborn artist friends drown in their ideals
Twitter's at a hiring freeze right now. Instead of funding their recovery, artists should tank the site's reputation until it can something good for a change.

>>6367803
If your fanbase is in twitter then most likely that's where your market belongs, the people willing to pay for your art is in there. Of course you will never understand if you're not good enough to do art for a living which is just fine, financial security is great but please don't mock people who do.

>>6367821
>Of course you will never understand if you're not
a cocksucking whore lol only prostututes have an audience on that shithole
you're not good at shit, your trash is worthless and you are a worthless shitstain
get FUCKED lol eat shit based Elon making you seethe

>>6367821
A lot of us genuinely don't want to have to fuck around and play the algorithm game some of us would rather just draw.

>>6367797
Artists have always been about themselves, look at the industry artists that pretend to give a shit about the smaller artists but they still don't push for unions that would help the smaller artists because they already got theirs.

>>6368000
Yeah. I love drawing but I think I would start hating it if I had to do it for a living. Much more if I had to do commissions.

>>6363906
THIS

>>6363885
>great artist deletes/privates his/her Pixiv account
>moves to Twitter and doesn't bother adding any of the old gallery to it
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>6368024
I actually enjoy drawing commissions. I don't really need the money, and probably undercharge, but I enjoy working with people to help flesh out their ideas and make something somebody genuinely enjoys. The money barrier helps to filter out ungrateful people and make people choosier with what they actually want to see.

Buyers remorse setting in kek

>>6368979
Looks like the twitter freakout was as expected, a nothingburger. It appears checkmarks are prioritized only in replies, notifs, search (literally useless for art) and the verified section in the notifications page...

>>6363872
The big question is, where are all the JP art accounts going? I only over follow JP accounts, and I'm still noticing a dip in people and they're often mentioning leaving the site.

>>6369013
for now*

>>6369027
Elon really should've gone to business school. Amateur mistakes.

>>6369027
>You can CHOOSE to go to the back of the bus and say hello to the bla- I mean... regular Twitter users
This isn't so bad after all. People should be aware about the amount of popularity wanking they do whilst they neglect smaller artists.

>>6369029
Honestly it seems like he's trying to destroy the site in the most profitable way possible

>>6369034
>profitable
>$44 billion already sunk
not happening

>>6369027
>>CNN

Hahahahahha

>>6369031
But that's the thing I don't want to see actual fucking niggers posting " LE LOOK AT MY MEMES MUH NIGGAS!" while trying to scroll down further to see my fav artists and smaller artists too. Why the fuck should I want to see fucking zoomers posting retarded shit and niggers along with fucking karens instead of my fav artists?

>>6363872
>reportedly
translation: lie

>>6366984
>crediting the person that created something is somehow destroying that medium
lol what a stupid african, also
>"ethics" of the internet
Double lol learn to spell bleached nigger.

>>6366984
>BUT I NEED TWITTER TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!! YES MR RICH MAN I WILL GIVE YOU MONEY EVEN IF YOU HATE ME!!!! DONT BLOCK US, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING!!!
This shit infuriates me to no end.

>>6369183
And then they get pissy when people block them on sight. What is personal accountability?

>>6363872
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

31

THIRTY-MOTHERFUCKING-ONE

XXXI

三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

>Source say

uh oh

>>6369574
>>Sky is falling news

Tumblr had much worse doomposting than this and it lives.

As an artist I genuinly enjoy browsing twitter for art and it helped me to gather a following, but I don't really care if it dies or not. Other platforms will take its place, you have to be adaptable. But maybe I'm just looking for a reason to stop thinking about my social media traction. It's not like I create for it, but I can't deny it does influence what type of content I produce.

>>6369574
Gee FAGMAN corps, would it kill you to die faster?
Some of us want jobs when everything is rubble.

>>6366984
>it's destroying the medium
wut

>>6369027
Elon not realizing that the users are the product to sell to other companies. Genuinely retarded behavior.

>>6364157
>Professional artists will be able to afford it. Whoever does commissions will still get visibility and work because their clients have money and will be able to pay for twitter as well.
>This is great news for professionals cause this will weed out all the beginners and kids who charge pocket money for their work.
>I'm honestly glad this is happening.

>>6366090
Zuckerberg looks exactly like a deer

lawsuit incoming

>>6370188

>>6363872
No stupid and spoiled kids on twitter finally

>>6370188
And/or FTC interference. The latter is much more worrisome for the suits.

>>6370189
actually based, I remember I was blown away when I learned insulin is actually cheap to make but since only like 3 companies make it they fix the price to fuck the consumers.

>>6370256
You can get generic insulin, I dont know why the fuck Americans are obsessed with the branded versions. Generics are cheap as fuck.

>>6369162
he means esthetics aka aesthetics. Not ethics.

>>6370189
Funny, just tack on "stock market manipulation" right next to "election meddling."

>>6363874
and libtards

I hope porn gets outlawed and you all get gassed. die fags

>>6367293
I'm not sure what you're talking about, dude. We already leave in pseudo-technocracy at this point. Rich techbros like Elon, Zuckerberg, the Saudi princes, and this nigga pretty much play on Creative Mode and do whatever the fuck they want.

>>6370422
there's no way this won't fuck up the surrounding ecosystem and require tons of resources to be manually diverted a remote area that otherwise isn't suitable for human life

>>6370577
>build a city in the middle of a forest where you need to cut all tree, BAD
>build city in the desert, BAD

>>6370583
humans will always have an impact on the environment what matters is is the ecosystem able to adapt to our impact in a way that doesn't end up killing all the surrounding wild life and using up all our resources?
large impacts make it harder for the ecosystem to adapt.
they're are smarter ways to do things and i doubt some rich idiot put any thought into how we can make a smaller impact to the surrounding ecosystem.

>>6370601
desert is mostly dead already, putting people in it will generate discarded food, desert's fauna will like that

>>6370604
you missed the part of "we have to divert tons resources away from other areas"
that's the part that will have the most impact.

What's the issue?

>>6370607
other areas dont care about losing a few tonnes of stones, its not like they will eat it

>>6370610
water
the necessity for all life
water

>>6370614
they can extract it from under the desert

>>6370422
What a bunch of retards, the desert sucks. I would know I used to live in Arizona. Imagine having more money than God and that's your dream destination.

>>6370619
you're either retarded or trolling
go read about the current state of the colorado river
maybe a real life example will help you understand

>>6370626
oh, they are building the city there, good riddance then

lol who could have predicted this?

>>6370866
just raise the prices

>>6370875
how high will he have to raise it to pay the billions he cost companies this week?

>>6370904
just a bit

>>6370875
>>6370866
>>6370904
>>6370914
Heres a much, much, MUCHHER BETTER idea, how about just, FUCKING KILL DESTROY THE ALGORYTHM AND THE BOTS, AND STOP ASTROTURFING, SHILLING, THROTHELING AND SHADOWBANNING ACCOUNTS?

>>6371034
here comes the no fun guy, hide your kink toys fast

I unironically support Muskrat's unintentionally killing Twitter.

>b-but muh audience reach

There are shittons of other options out there.

>>Retards spamming SKY IS FALLING tabloids
>>Few other retards fell for it

This is a 4chan red board and are all acting like woketard on Twitter.

>>6371048
Except it won't die. The Japanese use Twitter a part of their lives. And no Twittard actually leaving, they are just barking. Very funny, i admit. Elon operates few other billion dollar corporations, yet alot of retards thinking he is some obscure rightwinger. He knows alot of shits we don't.

>>6371050
It's already dying where have you been? Like 2 weeks ago they were getting a million more deactivations a day.

>>6370866
>taken down thanks to imposter trolls
I kneel

>>6371050
He's losing 4 million dollars a day. That's generally a bad thing and a sign of failing.

>>6370583
california was a desert, but a few good years made it an oasis, now look at what they do to water for the western side of the country, THAT is why its a horrible idea.

>>6371055
>>6371133
Twitter was always an underdog platform. That is why Elon refused to buy it few months ago. The pajeets worked there have been fucking up this platform since its early years.
Anything Elon did was cutting off bunch of employees because the economy is in crisis. So are Facebook. You should not taking his twitter shitpost nor any of these salty tabloids seriously. Unless you want to be a They/Them retard and thinks he is the end of the universe.

>>6371483
Huh, thats from 10 years ago

>>6371483
Fair enough but, the wouldnt help against the algorythm dissing people, not even trying to whine.

>>6371531
And it stays the same years later

>>6370866
I know he backpedaled but I hope he keeps doing stupid shit to Twitter until it eventually dies. I can't believe people think this guy is a business genius

>>6363872
Well where the fuck do we go now?

>>6371605
Go outside and touch grass

>>6371581
I dunno. Firing Pajeets who worked there is a legit smart strategy.

>>6363872
Onto the next site. Nobody goes to twitter for twitter. They go for the people using twitter. I hope the next mainstream site is more artist-friendly.

>>6366249
Why do so many people hate Instagram? I see a lot of people on twitter say that they hate Instagram too. Why?

Why are so many artists ignoring youTube? It seems pretty decent as a communication platform.

>>6372140
What do you expect artists to do on a video sharing platform short of timelapses? Or do they have an image gallery section now?

>>6372152
Live drawing streams where they talk to people
showing off art combined with music
Podcasts with other artists

>Or do they have an image gallery section now?
video is sequential images so yes

>>6371636
I simply fear there will never be another platform that has as many users and as much potential growth as twitter had.

You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

>>6372173
We need to stop equating bigger with better. Growth is at its best when you have a TARGET AUDIENCE in mind. Twitter is like yelling in a city hoping for someone to notice you. If you have a specific type of art, like let’s say horror, you want to be in spaces where the horror fanatics are. And similar demographics etc,. We seriously need to spread out of this internet communism.

>>6372173
You don't know what's out there until you look. Seriously, stop looking at one place. It's like learning everything from Loomis, from perspective to anatomy and not realizing there's other books that are more specialized and teach things better. Maybe it fails in one area but it makes up for it in another area.

>>6372173
I find the design of Twitter terrible. There no good way to get an overview of anything. You get whatever the fuck the algorithm decides to feed you. You are missing out on so much good stuff.

The sooner shitty social media like that dies the better.

>>6372137
Are you an iToddler?

- Layout wastes a shitton of space (Twitter also wastes 1/3 of the screen, but Instagram is more like 80%).
- Can't save pictures, if you try using a script you get IP-banned;
- Can't search for more than 1 keyword at a time;
- Optimized to ph*nes, shit on desktop, actively makes it dogshit for computer users;
- "Stories" not only make no sense, apparently they are important for engagement;
- Either post pictures or videos, no other type of media or text-only allowed;
- Owned by Facekike, so customer support doesn't exist;
- Communication is secondary, at most you can see the 200x200 pixel textbox with a bunch of comments with no visual formatting within a picture.

What is there to like about Instagram? If I forced myself to come up with something, it would be "the gallery looks nice", but even if it looks nice, it's still very limited if you don't draw squares.

>>6372443
Isn't Twitter also optimized for phones? I thought twitter users would feel more at home on Instagram or something

>>6372157
Then I had it better on tiktok.

>>6372633
on your ccp 30 sec danse app?

>everybody thinks elon is a retard who lost money on twitter when he's actually a madman who blew that money to destroy twitter on purpose because fuck you i'm rich

>>6363898

>b-but hes not a g-genius guys
>trust me, a cashier, to know if elon musk is a faggot

>>6363901

Its only a disaster if you read headlines and dont bother doing any research like 98% of the other faggots

>>6372814
The $8/month fee to have your tweets seen is real though and ruins twitter for the average user. He should scrap it and put everyone on the same level, like 4chan.

>>6372559
It is, but it's not unusable on Desktop like Instanigger.

>>6372718
well then he needs to do it faster

>>6372718
>Spill coffee on one of his servers
>Resets an artist's account all the way to 0
>Said artist still kneels at his feet and pay his taxes anyway
If only...

I heard Inkblot is a website that some Twitter artists are migrating to. It's a website designed for artists in mind.

>>6373594
Also: AI art is banned on the website

>>6373614
>AI art is banned
Signing up.

>>6373660
The website is still in development. It's supposed to be like old Deviantart. Hopefully it will have a bright future.

>>6373594
Aah yes I want to associate myself with that. Looks like dA shit tier

>>6373594
Looks like an Artstation clone for beginners and furry artists.

I wish there was a place like the old Conceptart.org forum.

>>6373594
Fuck "artist websites", you want NORMIES to be your followers they are the ones who sub to your patrion and buy your merch / commissions. Thats why Twitter and tumbler were so good you retard, its where the normies you want to follow you go. Even posting your work on reddit and face book will net you $$$.

99% of Artists who follow you only do so to steal your style and almost never ever like or retweet lmao.

>>6373688
It's supposed to be a website for artists to interact with other artists. It's not meant to be a replacement for Twitter. It's not for artists to market to potential clients lol

>>6367797
the other anon is right. what you say isn't wrong for other communities either, but artists are the worst when it comes to this. they are selfish/independent/socially antagonistic by nature. this field basically attracts the most psychopathological people, who are either drawn to it due to their mentally disordered tendencies or are resigned to it because they literally cannot function anywhere else except maybe low income waging.

the only people in the arts who are able to develop some kind of community are the science/engineer leaning types who are all about organization, priorities, development, networking, archiving, infrastructure etc. once something like conceptart.org develops, it's up to the parasitic artistic types to destroy it.

>>6373953
>the other anon is right. what you say isn't wrong for other communities either, but artists are the worst when it comes to this. they are selfish/independent/socially antagonistic by nature. this field basically attracts the most psychopathological people, who are either drawn to it due to their mentally disordered tendencies or are resigned to it because they literally cannot function anywhere else except maybe low income waging.
>the only people in the arts who are able to develop some kind of community are the science/engineer leaning types who are all about organization, priorities, development, networking, archiving, infrastructure etc. once something like conceptart.org develops, it's up to the parasitic artistic types to destroy it.
Ok we get it you reant deeply to suck emad cock and also enjoy watching indian scat porn

>>6372718
>$44billion dollar joke
>i was merely pretending to be retarded
this is more than 20% of his total net worth.

>>6373668
Made one account yesterday, quit inmideatly after some tripophobic freaky art shit some shitbitch made, also it will die, cause everyone uses twatter as life support.

>>6363872
Btw, the Twitter Blue option is locked to iOS (apple) phones only atm, so you are shit out of luck

>>6374185
Inkblot isn't supposed to be an alternative to Twitter, but to DeviantART

>>6374218
I don't think it can replace it when they offer 98% the same service
Yeah no pronouns in bio and no ai is nice but da has numbers and degens will continue to post there and normies will continue posting on twatter because of numberz

>>6363872
>Oh noes I have to pay monies
>its the end sisters

When did it become a thing that the internet needed to be free?
like eight bucks a month is less then a some drinks at starbucks how will that break the bank?

the whole reason advertisers hold these companies by the balls is because for some reason even though people spend untold amounts on social media and clog up their servers with shit, soon as the site says "hey can we get a few bucks" it becomes "no this site is unusable, and the owner is hitler"
stop being poor fags and understand there is no such thing as a free lunch

>6375173
>When did it become a thing that the internet needed to be free?
From its earliest days.
>stop being poor fags and understand there is no such thing as a free lunch
What an utterly retarded troll, stop posting.

>>6374000
Net worth is a made up number, that's not his liquid assets.

>>6375187
ok so his liquid assets are probably lower meaning it was a bigger %

>>6375181
Dude everything costs something and one way or another money needs to come in
if you want free speech you need to be not beholden to someone else

>From its earliest days
yes and that internet is dead, do you know why?
because nobody gave any money and thus the wild west days are gone because everything requires money to run, and if the users won't pay then they need to find someone who will and those who will demand things

lmfao

>>6373688
That's an interesting perspective actually. I'm interested, do you have any further insights to prove your point?
I might swallow my hatred/pride and open a reddit account if you can prove that there's considerable extra traffic to be made.

I had someone repost a comic of mine on reddit once, got 40 comments, almost double what I get on my all time best posts.

>>6369613
Tumblr wasn't being run by elon musk

>>6372718
It's painfully obvious you don't have the intelligence required to stay connected to the conversation.

>>6375482
How fucking bad can it get?

>>6365606
>easily replace
good morning sir

>>6370189
holy fucking based. If only we knew destroying corpos was this easy all along

>>6371569
>Facebook and Instagram owned by In-Q-Tel, official investment arm of the CIA
>Youtube owned by Google, known CIA collaborator through hundreds of court cases

>>6364222
>It’s the only way to remove third worlders, and children

>Filtered by turd worlders and DA kids.
>NGMI

>>6363872
You got to hand to the normies, they successfully ruined the Internet.

>>6375544
NTA but it's always a good idea to post everywhere you can (talking about the ones normies flock to, not obscure 'artist' sites). There will always be people that stick to one site and not use the others, and the more eyes you have on your work, the better. Nobody give a shit about your pride except you, so just do it. It literally takes like 2 minutes.

>>6376769
You can thank capitalism for that. The big corps want to earn the most money so they follow the opinions of the big spenders.

The big error was to commercialize the internet.

>>6363879
we'll never have a good art website til payment platforms(specifically north America) get the stick out there ass and accept people are horny they've tried to ban porn sites, fanfics and art now anything with a hint of lewd they act as if it's a fuckin plague. which is weird because I've never thought what if my bank allows a random to buy a dildo or a porn vid.
>pixiv will be missed

My total Pixiv experience
>Go to site
>Log in prompt in my face. No art outside a background
>Screw that. Type in Porn in the small search tab
>Get a load of terrible beginner porn
>Choose: Sort by popularity
>"This function require premium membership"
Fuck that place. Let it die.

>>6377018
>Muh Capitalism
Buddy if this were a communist society it wouldn't be much better.

>>6378133
Criticism of capitalism is not an endorsement for communism. You should know this already.

This is fake news

>>6363872
Imagine paying ads for virtual fame on a platforme. The debate is closed, finally.

>>6364019
man that sounds ultra comfy

>>6372857
If hiroshimoot thought he could get away with making this site pay to use he would do it in a heartbeat

>check out itaku.ee
>like the layout and functions
>looks like one of the better attempts of an artist platform
>it is completely fucking infested with bara furshit everywhere you look
for fuck's sake. at least you can blacklist users but more of them just keep popping up.

Twitter is up in flames and Pixiv has new rules
Where are artists supposed to go now?

>>6377858
>the left cant meme

>>6364107
dot art is run by some hysterical tranny
you get banned if you post bare nipples

>>6364107
fuck no, out of all these alternative sites mastodon is the one i flat-out refuse to use. it's ran by insane trannies and houses pedo circles.
>>6381334
>eye contact
>food
>caps
actually insane. how do these freaks even function? i hate eye contact irl but an image? who cares.

>>6381346
some professional artist got permabanned for posting this classic Goya painting on dot art
it's ridiculous

>>6381334
>is that a banana? AIIIEEEEEEEEE I'M LOSING M YMIND

That expensive blue shit that rich vip got as a sign of validation IS the concept of these shitty platforms. Elon pushes the concept so far it highlight the absurdity of the situation. And I personally would like to see an auction system for this.

>Paypal changed the world, elon literally EARNS his money. Twitter is a parasite.

>>6381127
>>check out itaku.ee
>>like the layout and functions
>>looks like one of the better attempts of an artist platform
>>it is completely fucking infested with bara furshit everywhere you look
nice OwO

>>6381334
literally. I joined it thinking it would be a cool art community, but this guy is fucking insane.
>alt text required
>content warnings on everything
>isolates the server from the rest of the mastadon federation
i don't want to be walking over eggshells for this guy

>>6381334
Is this absurd-thing also ruling over barag.net?

>>6381334
why are mastodon server owners all like this

>>6363872
I thought Pawoo was dumb turns out Pixiv is smarter than me.

>>6363872
OH no twitter is fucked boohoo .
so what ship are you fucking rats gunna jump to next XD ?
twitter users are scum , its so god damn fun to watch you faggits melting down .
GOD BLESS ELON .

>>6381729
>no twitter crossposting
we unironically need this rule on 4chan

>>6381729
>>Trannies and woke subhumans are migrating to Mastodon

God, they are like parasites. Well, atleast Twitter is abit cozier now.