/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6362886
There are something very souless about AI that I cant explain but I always spot them.
That said the purpose of AI is collect as many style as possible so they can copyright every artstyles. They don't care about soul.

>>6362886
AI is here to stay so I believe it's natural for platforms to not ban them, people would be posting them either way.
However there should be a way to completely hide that shit, and sanctions applied to people who don't tag their AI trash correctly. I don't want any of this derivative shit in my feed.

Basically, yeah.
in the future, if imagen ai continues to improve, i can see "art style models" becoming a widely used thing.
so instead of a show or book's artstyle being attributed to a single (or number of) artists, it will be attributed to a model which may or may not be based on a particular artist's style. in fact, this is already happening in some capacity (thinking about the hollie mengert situation).
it will most definitely cheapen art sadly, it will also make decent looking art more accessible to a lot of people, but it means there will be a massive flood of dull, samey looking stuff. Moreso than ever before.

Ai won

>no rules, just tools
>NOOOOOOOOO STOP USING THAT TOOL

>>6362984
AI is as much a tool for artists as a printer is a tool for trad calligraphers

>>6362984
you are the tool of the AI, not the other way around. After all Rashit, AI is better than humans right?

Humans evolve faster than technology believe it or not. Let it accelerate. I'm already seeing normies comment on hyperrealistic bland artstation crap asking if it's AI (makes the artist seethe every time) so naturally people are going to gravitate towards things AI can't do (perspective, cartooning, lithography, inkwork, gestures,etc.) The great art revolution is upon us lads.

>>6362886
>Only 1%, maybe even less, will do this. People are lazy
Ban all lazy fucks

>>6362984
kek how will /ic/ ever recover?

>>6363008
Its soooo funny to be you see this, but dont see it.

What used to be an entire, expensive, profession of skill tyrants removed, a side hobby today, because technology allowed the common person to achieve what they wanted without having to go through some crusty old gatekeeper.

And you dont think this of you? Haha

The writing is on the wall

Ask the elevator man.

>>6363334
Yes, gatekeeping the world of not being a lazy retard.

>>6363334
Much of the expense of making art went away when things moved from traditional to digital art. As for skill, People have done successful projects (games, comics, etc.) with bad or mediocre art for a while now. The internet certainly helped with that. I don't know what gatekeeping you're talking about.
People can make art assets now without needing any skills. Cool, good for them. A similar thing happened to photography years ago, and it may continue to happen to other skilled professions as time goes on.

>>6363334
Skill tyrants?? Gatekeeping? Are you actually mentally challenged?
There are thousands of hours worth of video tutorial online, made by artists, for anyone who wishes to be one. Hundreds of pages worth of artbooks that you can find on this very board. All it takes for you to absorb all that data is time and inexpensive pen & paper. It always was accessible for "the common person".
You can only blame yourself for being shit and opting to become a rank and file AIturd before even trying to put any effort into this craft.

>>6363334
this looks like it was written by either pajeet or an actual AI

>>6363011
This is a very interesting take. Since low effort, common poses and scenarios can be easily done by AI, low effort artists will be forced to adapt or generate their own content with AI, lowering their own value further.

>>6363011
Concept art paintings? Realism? Pssh, that's all just AI-tier slop! Get with the times, grandpa, real artists only draw forced perspective western cartoon loli hyperslob scat art!

>>6363361
imagine if someone bought a coffee machine and a barista wanabee replied with this shizo post

>>6363390
That doesn't even make sense.

>>6363011
Good and truthful take, however it has one mistake in it. The mistake is that you assume there is an artstyle even possible to create that is not able to be replicated by AI. I would give you more credit if you said people would demand the process of making the piece, but that again will be soon automated. Maybe the process of sending the layers and project file would remain, because if AI bros see the lengths that customers go ensure its not AI generated, they will give up since the AI programs wont be possible to advertise to these people.

>>6363444
Artists can simply livestream even small part of process to prove that they can even draw in a first place. I assume many artists digital or trad will start streaming even if only from time to time to have proof that they can draw. Lets face it most of AI bros wont be able to make even simple sketch.

>>6363444
>The mistake is that you assume there is an artstyle even possible to create that is not able to be replicated by AI
Can it replicate a not shit artstyle? It has to get there first.
inb4 two weeks.
inb4 coping

>>6363457
define "not shit artstyle"

>>6363011
And if humans get beat by ai then it means we really deserve it, because ai is dogshit. If we get beat by dogshit then what does that make us?
The cream will rise to the top.

>>6363475
>not blurry
>not low res
>not filled with artifacts
>not artificial looking

>>6363483
that's not what one would usually attribute to an artstyle, more so image quality but okay.

>>6363386
Perspective is hard. Stylized perspective is even harder. It may not be the big booba fotm waifu bust in 3/4 view that gets 100k shares, but it's real work, dedication, and creativity that gets my admiration and other artists. Maybe someday soon even normies will begin to appreciate it, too.

>>6362886
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pixiv-filter/obnpnnkehjbeplkmddefoofjcmpgdgpm
You're welcome.

>>6362984
>taking Vilppu out of context
>Vilppu is telling people they don't have to copy his style
Based retard.

>>6363334
> t. whined about people wanting an easy mode for Sekiro

>>6363361
There are retards who think buying an expensive graphics card and a tablet is cheaper than a pad of paper and a pencil.

>>6363820
Most of these people think art skill is some mystical talent, and they seethe about not having it.

>>6362948
Megacorporations won; human artistry lost.
All in the name of capitalistic greed.
All the subhuman scum who made this possible should have their souls terminated for their transgressions when time comes for their departure.

>>6363334
Gatekeeper? That's your argument.
More like devaluing hard work, persisstence,dedication and human creativity which you yourself clearly have none of. You're a drooling mediocre dumb cattlebrained consoomer retard.
Imagine being so smug while also being so utterly stupid. You are the fucking cattle.

>>6363359
This is precisely what AI company CEOs like Emad are talking about. He thinks that his tool will allow creative people to make stuff without the need to learn the hard skills (unless you count high quality prompting a difficult skill). Yes you can have some AI that makes the prompts for you, but that would give the end user less control. We will move into an age where artists are basically all hobbyists sharing their work on their services like Roblox. Whoever wants to make stuff, will make stuff. AI could do it for them, but the more AI does, the less control the user has. Remember, prompters are the customers here, not people looking up AI pictures on the internet. It will end up as world where the creators work on the content they want to, then generate the shit around it that they don’t like making and share it online. The fears of Megafeed are just creatives being overly pessimistic about the future. Again, the customers are the creators, not the consumers, consumers get it for free and can pick and choose since most people have zero fucking idea about what they want and if they want to make something. Or at least this is how I imagine these people think about the future. Killing off creativity itself for couple of billions and not thinking about the potential consequences of it is just cartoon villain idiocy.

>>6363877
>he thinks
He's a hedgefund manager with junk DNA that spawned a tardbaby. He wants to sell this and make bank, he doesn't give a shit about how it's used.

>>6362886

we need a verification process where people have to show a recording of simple pen/pencil on paper.

>>6363877
>He thinks that his tool will allow creative people to make stuff without the need to learn the hard skills
I don't believe he believes that at all. He's just trying to fish for public justification for the scummy shit AI companies are doing in order to get more investments for Stability.
>Killing off creativity itself for couple of billions and not thinking about the potential consequences of it is just cartoon villain idiocy.
Anon, there are corporate heads and politicians that have decades-long careers of making a profit by purposefully instigating public and infrastructural disarray, which they even publicly state as their objective half the time. Greedy and remorseless people like this aren't a work of fiction.

None of these would've happened had humanity accepted the truths of Marxism-Leninism.

Pinups are dead.
It’s over. I’m sorry.
If you’re not doing animation or some kind of storytelling then you need to start doing that now. The days of “random anime girls with no context” being a valuable and marketable skill are over.
There’s still plenty that AI can’t do. Start doing those things.
>it’s all pointless ai will do everything ai will do animation humans are done
Ok, fine. Just sit in the corner and piss your pants and do nothing then. As for me, I’m just going to keep doing the best I can.

>>6364211
This is fucking marxist lenninism you retard. the means of producing art is now free to the masses. your monopoly is over. The salt from retarded bunker trannies over AI art is unreal. This is everything they've been screaming for for decades gift wrapped and not even monkey pawed like nfts or other shit, they just hate it even though it does everything they expected.

>>6363979
the joke is that the companies you are seething about are basically nobodies. Even Dale-2 was punched in the junk by aesthetic autists who dont give a shit about politics. SD is going to dominate, and its just one more red nightmare for freetard commies getting what they wanted "But not like that!"

2022 will be known as the year communism actually worked, to the absolute horror of commies.

>>6364217
We will have fully automated animation in the next 2 or 5 years.

>>6364220
>the means of producing art is now free to the masses
drawing was always free for the masses, cavemen were charcoal painting shit in their caves thousands of years before modern civilization
how is a data harvesting technology developed for profit by a billion dollar corporation liberating for anyone
you're so far up your own ass you don't realize just how bad goldberg is raping you
>>6364232
lol
lmao even

>>6364232
There is a fundamental limit to how current techniques are able to handle multiple objects interacting in 3D space.
There’s a reason why all AI art is just zoomed in pictures of one thing. As soon as you have multiple people/things in a dynamic scene it falls apart.
Animation is just that same problem, but 10x harder.
Yeah maybe it will be solved tomorrow, but maybe we’ll have AGI tomorrow too. I won’t waste time worrying about what will or won’t be. I’m just going to assess what AI can’t do right now and put my time and effort towards that, rather than trying to compete with it on problems it’s already solved.

>>6364236
eating was always free for the masses, cavemen were hunting animal meat from their caves thousands of years before modern civilization. how is mass producing corn and meat using mechanized technology developed for profit by billion dollar corporation liberating for anyone?

Nice new copypasta. High quality dunning Krueger anon. The best part is no billion dollar corporation did anything this time. those try hard where outraced by dyed in the wool freetards. It's hilarious that you are so stupid you don't even have any self awareness as a human being. Observing the casual fact that now that the opportunity cost of art is so much lower more people are able to join in creating without sacrificing hundreds of hours of hard labor. It's absolutely liberating, and you hate it.

>>6364253
>those try hard where outraced by dyed in the wool freetards.
?
Stability AI is literally a billion dollars tech corpo funded by a millionaire trust fund pajeet

>>6364253
>>>>>>food analogy

>Observing the casual fact that now that the opportunity cost of art is so much lower more people are able to join in creating without sacrificing hundreds of hours of hard labor. It's absolutely liberating, and you hate it.
it's literally the opposite of liberating. you're giving up your mind and imagination to what can most adequately be described as a derivative machine. it's the logical conclusion of consumerism, there's nothing artistic about this. you AI tards just sadden me, I wish you people would grow a fucking spine and believe in yourselves instead of bending over for more soulless corpo tech to rape your ass

>>6364260
>unself aware retard still seething, has no arguement
adding arrows to your text wont make your vomit any less pasta.
>b-but what about muh real arguement
what arguement? you don't have one. The process where I have ideas in my head what the end result should look like, and then I try to scrawl it clumsily on my paper until, after Unknown amounts of hours which vary by personal talent, intelligence, and consumption of media in the first place, it begins to resemble but never match is fundamentally not changed at all by using this tool in place of my pen. While I doubt in any way shape or form you are anywhere close enough to the peak to be secure from AI after making this shitty thread, lets imagine you are the top 1% of artists, at that point, you can make whatever you want appear on the page as long as it's in a style you actually specialized in. Never the less what do you fucking hear from all these non begs outside of shitposting jockying basketweaving enclaves? only about how much their art fucking sucks and isn't good enough. In other words not only is your argument bullshit, but it's not even something the super duper pooper majority of artists will ever even perceive as being real. To them, the creative process you outline is just as unachievable.

I'll give you one kudo though. Now that AI art of this minimum quality exists the number one artists both analogue and users of AI will have superior visual modeling in as high detailed as possible. If any of them give such a fuck and aren't sucked into some cad engineering sweatshop.

>>6364271
>ai
>artist
good one

>>6364271
>To them, the creative process you outline is just as unachievable.
No, they just weren't willing to put in the work requried. There are hundreds of examples of people finding creative solutions to work around their lack of skills in certain areas prior to the existence of AI.

>>6364284
>No, they just weren't willing to put in the work requried.
Right, you heard it here folks, 100% of artists aren't artists. they just aren't willing to put in the work.

>>6364289
What the fuck are you on about
The creative process the previous post outlined is literally doing art without the use of AI, something which artists have been doing for decades
Take you meds, street shitter

>>6364294
>take your meds street shitter
nice advice to give for yourself but I dont know why you are directing it at me. Maybe along side some art classes you should practice your english ESL-kun.

>>6364271
do ai cucks also ask AI to write their posts?? someone please translate this into coherent speech

>>6364298
Try staying in school rasheed.

>>6364296
NTA that anon but saying he's an ESL because he mistyped a single letter is an absolutely pathetic rebuttal.

>>6364302
No retard I'm saying hes an ESL because he can't read and carried on his rhetoric in ignorance of my point. Granted It's probably more likely that this retard is actually just experiencing massive cognitive dissonance and is simply unwilling to acknowledge the point in that text that proves him wrong, but why not go both barrels and say he can't understand it. Either way hes retarded but in this timeline he smells like shit.

>>6364298
Artlet mad he cannot draw. Copes himself in real time into believing AI is anywhere near close to a substitute for art while simultaneously seething at artists. Projects the idea that all top artists hate their work as much as he does.
Basically, your average /g/ tourist.

Unsoulful, unoriginal tourist art.

>>6362886
lmao gooks on suicide watch, fuck anime fuck moeshit trannies and fuck weeaboos
Jesus thank you for obliterating this horrible bugman shit
I almost feel bad about being so happy hahaha, the levels of Schadenfreude are giving me a literal boner

>>6364455
This but for all artist

>>6364249
Same thing people said about artefacts, human poses and distinguishing certain characters 4 months ago. There are smart people working on these models, people way more knowledgable and competent in this field then you, they will figure it out.

>>6364253
I am creative nodraw that only does doodles and rudimentary 3D models. I on on this board only because of AI and the fear that this tech will replace creativity itself. These programs fill in a lot of the blanks in terms of creativity and design, and just thinking it won’t learn to prompt from all the pictures it had generated and people giving it feedback on if it is good or not. Also, as many have said, if everyone is an artist, no one is, your story will hold no weight because nobody will share it.

>>6364566
>I am creative nodraw that only does doodles and rudimentary 3D models. I on on this board only because of AI and the fear that this tech will replace creativity itself. These programs fill in a lot of the blanks in terms of creativity and design, and just thinking it won’t learn to prompt from all the pictures it had generated and people giving it feedback on if it is good or not. Also, as many have said, if everyone is an artist, no one is, your story will hold no weight because nobody will share it.
this is why people without families are the ultimate losers of life anon. You're supposed to share this shit with your friends and children.

>>6364566
>Same thing people said about artefacts, human poses and distinguishing certain characters 4 months ago.
Dude have you watched the image you posted?
Your post is satire, right?

>>6364566
>There are smart people working on these models, people way more knowledgable and competent in this field then you, they will figure it out.
By this logic, we will have AGI within the next year because “there are smart people working on it, they’ll figure it out”.
There has to be a limit at some point, we can’t have found the final answer and AI will just be perfect now, unless you’re one of those schizos who believes the singularity is near.
Also no clue what you mean about “artifacts and distinguishing characters”, and as for “human poses”, it was clear from the first DallE demos that they could draw the human body. No one doubted that.
>I am creative
You will never create anything.

If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>6364509
can't wait for a.i. to hit musicians, no one is going to care about their mysterious motivations once the algorithm does exactly the same thing without worshipping pussy.

>>6364606
There are already models making music and believable voices. Combine it with auto tune and they are done. Expect it to hit in 2 or 5 months.

>>6364587

>>6364587
The only good thing that will come of this is that style and flavor might supplant skillmaxxing again and we'll get some funkier and more varied human-made art.

Looking forward to kawaii cubism.

>>6364669
Whatever you do, pajeets will immediately add a little flash and bling to it, and that's what attracts, and what normies will flock to.
You'll never outrace a machine.

>>6364665

>>6364669
>kawaii cubism.

>>6364587
Era of mass produced counterfeiting of art a go-go.

>>6364669
>funkier and more varied human-made art.
you made smears of shit made by a bigender tranny Black™ queer jewish quadriplegic scatqueen they/them?

Pixiv is beyond fucked, and I can only wonder how long it will take for artists to quit in masse or literally flip their shit in meltdowns. It has barely been a month, but the Novel AI tag is about to reach 80K images while other tags took more than a DECADE to reach numbers close to this. The problem is that this shit is not even close to the peak of its popularity yet, to not even mention that shitters can simply choose to not use the tags.
As the time passes, it will basically become a database that """AI artists""" can mine to feed original artworks and styles to their magic genie machines to shit out more content. Most of this AI niggas can barely draw a finger, even less use hue/saturation to adjust images, but they are all opening fanboxes and patreons already. Most of them are the typical westie coomers that had accounts for ages but never posted anything before, and if they did, it was bottom of the barrel 3D MMD models with 1 minute poses.

>>6365078
One outcome I can hope for is Pixiv artists migrating to pawoo or some other mastodon instances or whatever, becoming more social. People should care about them as artists instead of just the art they produce. Likewise for prompters, prompters who prompt non-generic shit that they bother to fix and make interesting shouldn't be drowned alongside the cookie-cutter prompt faggots. Death of the death of the artist and a return to art for the elite (the elite in this case being those with training and knowledge), if you will.

>>6365078
then it wouldn't be an art site anymore
the solution is just a new deviantart-type site that bans generated images like newgrounds that actual artists would flock to

>>6365094
assuming a worst-case scenario where ai art eventually becomes indistinguishable from hand-made digital art, how would this be enforced?
ai detectors? honor system? showing progress? i'd love a site that excludes ai generated content but i'm worried that it'll just eventually become overrun with it if the tech improves or the website becomes popular.

>>6365125
best thing to do is just allow it with a filterable tag unlike pixiv. if you try to ban it people will probably sneak it in. I could see huge drama storms errupting over it. just look how easy retards seeth at anyone who defends AI in this shitty contrarian website. All it would take to have an upset with anyone in your new paradigm created by your copium is some kiwi or groomer with a an axe to grind accusing someone of doing AI art and having their posse of shills jump on that persons neck with a numbers advantage. They already try to do this shit constantly on nip websites and nip twitter. a lot of artists quit art over shit like that too unlike in the west where most non estrogen poisoned people just ignore it or even mock it.

>>6365089
The issue is that the more its used, the more its validated. Whether some guys are good enough to retouch their prompts or not will be irrelevant, when even this sort of minimal effort will end up being completely drowned by the flux of automatically generated crap. For 99% of the world, art doesn't need to be good like op said, art needs to be only "enough" so it can be consumed in masse. The dream of every coomer and the reason for their parasocial relationships with artists is to see more of their content or artstyle, because what they really want is to artists to be like machines themselves producing new art every day. When machines are able to mass produce content of the guys claim to admire, it's only a matter of time until they stop giving a shit about the artists and just swallow what they are fed.
>>6365125
Maybe when more big name artists, companies and game studios get their art stolen and fed to AI in the very second it hits the internet they will actually give a shit about it. Because in the AI future, those niggas will need to be incredibly paranoic about their IPs. Any character, concept design, waifu, etc that pops on the internet can be instantly repurpose by the AI of other company so they can create their own "original" content.

tl;dr, develop a time machine and go back in time to get the nerds that developed AIs laid so they won't have time to program or create these

>>6365158
>these artificial companies lose tons of pretend value over night
>everone on this shithole thinks its a bad thing because they would love to be bizney if given half a chance
I hate my species.

>>6365125
Solutions for detection if an AI did it could be that either you know the artist got the skill and it is based on trust or the pieces need some progress images to go along with it.

AI could eventually become a good detector but that would still just be a guideline.

>>6365078
>artfaggots fucking off forever
One can only hope!

>>6365078
I am supremely overjoyed to hear about pornfags getting BTFO
I'm literally having a toast to this right now
I'm going to look specifically for pornfaggots so I can pay them $5 to get my dick sucked
die

>>6365261
>too dumb to realize that the people spamming generated garbage are pornfags
Are you really that dumb, or just seething because you can't draw?

>>6365276
>people spamming generated garbage are pornfags
oh I don't care about that, I only care about porn peddlers running out of work
I know that coomers are feeding the most shit to AI, of course in this fucking cultural apocalypse it's porn that drives all cultural change. I only care that fucking hack frauds with no skill and zero creativity will be able to make money. Even if just a dozen of these fucking human cloacas will kill themselves I'll be a happy man

>>6365287
*will not be able to make money
I've hated pornfags for years. You are a fucking cancer upon the arts. Fucking cumbrains and people who draw nothing but "fan" art. AI is the greatest fucking thing.

>>6365287
>>6365292
Imagine being this much of a faggot enjoying sniffing and sucking the smega of literal street shitters and worshipping their machine scam LMAO

>>6365292
>I hate porn
>but more porn is good
You are very, very stupid.

>>6365078
>Westerns and Twitterfags hoping to migrate get flooded out by all the AI posts.
>OR
>Pixiv becomes stingy and polices what gets uploaded to their site
There is no bad outcome here. The previous state of Pixiv was already bad and is better off charred.

>>6365296
>>6365297
As I said I only care about parasites being unable to make a living
I don't give a shit about the implications and long term consequences, I just want pornfags and moeshitters to kill themselves. I've hated them for years and it seems like things are accelerating into a fucking trainwreck and they're finally getting what they deserve
seethe and cope. I fucking hate you all, I think you're not even human

>>6365306
>just want pornfags and moeshitters to kill themselves
So you want the generated porn spammers to kill themselves? But I thought you were glad they existed? Anon, your posts are making progressively less sense, but making it all the clearer that you're actually seething about something else.

/ic: The home page of fine art and rigorous intellectual debate.

>>6365316
I don't consider 3rd world pajeets human so I don't give a fuck if they make a living off 0.3 cents with AI porn
I don't care about AI, I want people who actually draw that shit to die. All the sakimishits and hentai gooks and east europe peddlers. I fucking hate them because they think they're good and they've been pushing out actual art off social media in forever. Yes I've been seething about porn and fanart for a long time, I fucking hate you all. I'm absolutely ecstatic that AI is accelerating your filthy trade into unviability.

>>6365325
You realize that low-skill, non-pornographic artists will be the most impacted by this, right?

>>6365331
OH NO all the faggots drawing nothing but fanart in some gookshit style are getting BTFO! what a terrible injustice!

>>6365347
That's not who I'm talking about, but whatever makes you feel better.

>>6365325
Post your work.

>>6365348
>That's not who I'm talking about
anybody else is already getting 0 visibility so nothing changes
in any case it's worth sacrificing those 5 people who draw actual art for the sake of destroying this environment of debauched pornowhores and fanshitters
I don't even care that subhumans will coom 10000 times as much, they're so far gone I don't care, I only care about revenge

>>6365306
>>6365325
>>6365347
Did a coomer murder your dog or something?

>>6365366
>I only care about revenge
Masks mandates have lightened up, I think it's time for you to step outside.

Post your renders.

>>6365369
My guess is he's an artist who never found traction with his work, or somebody told him his art sucked.

>>6365306
>hates porn
thats good
>hates cute
thats bad
have you considered slitting your throat because people with cute agression are a danger to children

>>6365369
>Did a coomer murder your dog or something?
no but if anyone murdered my dog I'm 100% certain it would've been a coomer, who would ever do that if not a filthy coomer?

>>6365415
>people with cute agression
I'm not aggresive toward cute things, I'm aggressive against pedos and permavirgin weeaboos

>>6362886
AI is here to stay, it's only getting bigger and better

>>6365419
>I hate cute things
okay anon we get it, now face the wall.

>>6365428
Bigger and better, but only as long as people feed it more and more works from actual artists.

>>6362886
>pixiv is practically dead

What?

>>6362984
>watching Vilppu video
>print screen
>"I drew this"
no rules only tools

>>6362886
Damn. Now you anime drawing faggots will have to get a job huh? Great!

First lawsuit against AI using copyrighted material filed.

https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/

>>6366063
Good. The unfortunate thing for artists is that it will theoretically be harder to prove the abuse, since code is much more straightforward, making it easier to show "these lines of text are a 1:1 match for what I wrote."

>>6364606
Music AI has been a thing for ages
Unsuprisingly it's soulless as fuck and almost nobody likes it

>>6367223
https://youtu.be/koUA1gQvl_Y

>>6365359
don't bother, they have none, and are incapable of making any worth a damn

...that's why they're relying on someone else to get their "revenge", even their rage and malice is just another vector for them to display their impotency

Oh no. Dawn of a new era for Pepe.

Pixiv is for degenerate coomers, NewGrounds is for real Chads. Animeshit is also dead.

>>6362886
>zipperheads are useless idiots
Tell me something I don't know already

>>6363334
As always the seething failed artists outing themselves as jealous faggots
You will never be an artist

>>6368445

>>6364306
>both barrels
who the hell actually says this
you ai shills are all the same, stubborn and weird

>>6368445
The girls in the backround lmao

>>6364733
the democratization of pottery lmao. i think the most infuriating thing about this is that these clowns call this shit "progress". fucking techno kikes

>>6362886
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

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三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

>>6369040
They're the same people who want to be microchipped, wear an AR contact lens, and spend as much time as possible in virtual reality.

>>6363334
Actual raging envious megalomaniac ripped straight from the pages of Harrison Bergeron

>>6369312
thx for bumping them all to the top

>>6369346
yeah wtf. We could have killed them, he is only making them stronger. A mole?

>>6368987
People like you always like to mock the things AI struggles with. First it was hands, now it's girls in the background. When the AI perfects hands and background characters, you people will mock the next thing it has yet to perfect, acting as if AI isn't actually all that good since it still has some flaws. And then in one or a couple of years when everything is perfect, you'll have nothing left to scoff at and all your only method of cope will be suicide.

>>6369374
We mock real art too. Why should AI shit be exempt?

>People like you always like to mock the things AI struggles with. First it was hands, now it's girls in the background. When the AI perfects hands and background characters, you people will mock the next thing it has yet to perfect, acting as if AI isn't actually all that good since it still has some flaws. And then in one or a couple of years when everything is perfect, you'll have nothing left to scoff at and all your only method of cope will be suicide.
two more weeks sirs

>>6369379
We have one shot learning now. no longer need huge data sets. It's over. 2 more weeks? try 2 more DAYS.
https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/10/01/less-than-one-shot-machine-learning/

>>6369384
>2020

>>6369379
reading these posts with an indian accent makes them so funny
>AI superpower by 2023

>>6362909
>There are something very souless about AI that I cant explain but I always spot them.
99% of the AI art is made with NovelAI service or its leaked model, which has a distinct "flavor" of soulless airbrushed art popular with braindead coomers. This is by design since it's what they wanted to see but it's also making for a glowing beacon on all of them being posted to anime sites at the moment. If someone wanted to be more sneaky and have the hardware to do their own fine-tuning (not just the TI/Hypernetwork stuff) they can. They'd also need to touch up the images to fix eye symmetry and hands, which isn't hard using the AI inpainting tools alone but these are the laziest of the lazy so most won't do that either; this leaves them with a very limited set of poses and compositions across everyone's art since they try to keep the hands out of frame and the subjects looking directly at the viewer.

All of this combined makes 99.9% of AI art instantly recognizable but my point is not to get complacent in that, because it's not fundamental to the technology but instead a reflection of the current userbase.

>>6369374
>please lower your standards and say you're impressed
I don't think I will.

An easy solution to implement would be allowing artists to upload only one picture a day (with multiple sub-pictures if needed). Maybe make exceptions for verified human artists.

People are too fucking slow to catch up on this shit and are reaping permanent damage in the process.

>>6367223
Because it’s not allowed to sample copyrighted works lol

>>6363877
>allow creative people to make stuff without the need to learn the hard skills
That's what they hire someone with the hard skill set (artists) for.

>>6365158
>it's only a matter of time until they stop giving a shit about the artists
I disagree with this scenario. I predict most of the people you mention will consume both AI generated pictures and human made art. People will enjoy what they enjoy, the source won't matter for most.

>>6362886
>display fewer.
Doesn't work. Pixiv is dead

As much as I don't like it, it makes perfect sense on paper for the suits who run these sites. More content being uploaded means more impressions in their eyes. Instead of having to get new users to create content for the platform now they can have more volume of art being made for it. They fail to see the human element of how people would think it sucks though.

>>6365306
>I'm poor and my dick doesn't work so I hate coomers

is what I keep getting out of this. Sounds like this is just your problem and no one cares. Gonna keep getting paid to draw coom :)

>>6362886
Thanks for showing me this was at the very least possible.

>>6362886
Every time a new technology is introduced to the art world, a bunch of luddites lose their minds over it, try to “fight back” against the new technology (which has like, never once worked?), and very often I feel like it’s partly motivated by insecurity from people who don’t have much actual creativity or noteworthy artistic skill, or people who just can’t adapt, because I don’t really understand who else would actually stand to be negatively-impacted by this.

>>6375214
name 2

>>6364587
Img2img with extremely restricted CFG or low strength will produce this. It's turning the AI into a camera but heavily crippling its ability to actually generate anything other than what it was fed.

>>6375214
>have developed your art and name
>new machine learning tool arrives
>people start training it on your art
>they sell it under your 'name'-style
>they load your work into a machine that twist it a little just to claim that it is now different art despite that it is clearly still your work that adds all the value
>faggots claim that this is fine
Every time a new tech comes along scammers will try to prey on people with it.

>>6375232
When photography was first invented in the 19th century, a lot of painters freaked out, fearing it would be the end of their profession, and possibly even the end of visual art entirely. Instead, visual art developed into new and more experimental forms that diverged from realism such as impressionism, maybe it became harder for portrait painters in general to find work, but those who were skilled enough actually tended to get paid more for their work because having a painted portrait increasingly became a status symbol as photography developed and proliferated, the new technology gave rise to new forms of art, and in the end, people obviously still paint even though now all of us can easily take pictures on devices that we carry with us everywhere. People also said these same things when digital art began emerging in the 1980s, and again, it didn’t completely kill off traditional art or end “art as we know it” by any stretch of the imagination.

>>6375297
skill issue

>>6375343
>skill issue
It is a legal issue. That's why they have started filing lawsuits. https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/

>>6375343
Those are completely different things, realism is the only style to “compete” with photography. AI is competing with EVERY possible style anyone have or will have, since you thiefs will instantly use your embedding and dreambooth.

Digital Art indeed took some of the traditional art space, but NOT your function, the artistic skills needed are virtually the same, a traditional artist could become a digital artist using the same skills if they wanted.

Nothing compares to this automation that kills the art process, you skip it completely and have the art be instantly generated.

>>6364253
It's hard to make AI art when you're starving in the street and don't have a computer. This will be 50% of the world by 2030.

With how pixiv supporting AI art and giving them a separate rankings, it just a matter of time they follow deviantart's steps.

>>6375400
I’m 100% sure of it. AI elevated their traffic really drastically, especially for coon art, they are really loving it and will make their Pixiv Dream soon.

Seethe harder cuck.

I've seen some pretty good loli stuff generated with AI

>>6375441
Perhaps you should see a doctor about those cataracts. Or maybe tongue because you have shit tastes.

>>6375450
Sour grapes are very sour and grapey

>>6363334
Such evolution is from picking up the pencil/stylus to draw to typing big breasts and masterpiece into some text box.

Kek.

>>6375441
If that were true then you would've posted it. But you AIfags are all talk.

>>6362984
You wouldn't call a photo a drawing

>>6369374
>Noooo leave the helpless AI alone

> The flood of AI lolis caused Pixiv to purge all lolis, rape, beastiality, incest off the platform
Why do pajeets and trannies do this?

>me and 5 others start constantly generating images with a select amount of tags
>upload most of it
>90% of the uploads are now AI only

:^)

>>6364211
Imagine accepting any truths from that kike. You're in a Marxism-Leninism dystopia /leftypol/ troon

And they said AI wouldnt replace artists lmao, sd/nai just killed the jobs of many "artists" lmaoooo.

Pixiv fanbox will now trade prompts and ckpts

>>6376720

Cool.
Guess I'll keep proompting then

>>6377138

>>6377146
kek

>AI spam along with embedded viruses and CP
>sudden flooding of requests by moderators for users to censor older works
>fanbox telling artists to not do anything that isn't vanilla
>now AT&T is throttling the site making everything slow or not load
Is there some sort of concerted effort to kill pixiv or something? All of this happening at once is suspicious.

>>6377138
That looks like dogshit sure the orange and blue look nice but its rendered pointless by the fact that ai is essentially a creativity filter or siv washing away anything interesting leaving only base slop it has no other redeeming qualities everything else is broken and weird
>have to add shitty faux anime girl in an attempt to be interesting
All ai shit still suffer from the exact same problems inherited by its abortive conception and worse its all boring as hell

>>6377237
looks good to me

>>6377138
name one thing in here

>>6377242
Well if you don't care you don't care so Idk why you would bother saying anything

>>6377244
grindows, sdairs, hamrailings

>>6377138
Kek, just a regular anime gnome taking a stroll.

>>6362909
Art is humanity's soul. AI is not human and thus AI art is always noticeable for its inhuman nature.

>>6377245
I'm just saying the details don't bother me, looks good to me regardless

>>6375343
PYW

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6986351
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6986354
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6982608
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6991324
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6991300
(nsfw obviously)
>be mentally defective person
>can't draw
>limited to crappy art and porn
>AI comes out
>can now instantly summon the most nonsensical, deformed, depraved shit imaginable
>it comes out with the texturing equivalent of an artist who spent 10 years training
you were born just in time to see computer scientists open the Pandora boxes that will end humanity.

>>6363008
That analogy only works if printers were limited to 20 characters per print and were missing every third letter from their set.

>>6377421
not bad hyper if I'm being perfectly honest

>>6362886
I have no problem with AI as long as it's tagged properly. But when it's presented as original art without crediting real artists' styles then it's just soulless

Ai art is fine
Digusting artists are the problem

>>6377662
You sound bitter.
I wonder which anon in here BTFO'd you so hard to warrant these emotions.

>>6375343
Nice gif
Not how it gets less and less nigger-like

>>6377717
meant to write *note*, fucking hell, my niggerbrain needs evolution still

>>6377670
Wonder what AI artwork BTFOd artists so much to have such a collective meltdown

>>6377728
Who's the one seething outside their shithole board?

>>6377734
Seething about what exactly? People crying AI is going to take away their jobs, or their "copyrighted" artstyle? Seems like artists would do that, and they do it a lot. AI people? Most they seem to be crying about is the GPU prices

>>6377740
Note how AI image generations creates /p/ content just as easily and is perhaps even more competent at it than illustrations.
And yet you don't have 24/7 meltdowns about stable diffusion on that board.

>>6377728
>steals pictures to have a machine make a shitty collage
>it doesnt look good
>licks the cum off multi billion dollar corpos asses
>"this is democratization of art!"
>"prompting takes skill!"
>"fuck artists and their gatekeeping!" (avoids looking at million art tutorials online)
>"hurr durr its not stealing its learning"
>"AI art is valid and totally as valuable as trad art"
>"look! im an artist!"
>"... except im not, artists are obsolete now!"

>w-why are u guys mad?? artists seething.. hehe...
only thing here getting btfod is you, rhajeet

>>6377751
see >>6377743

>>6377751
Notice how you are the one that seems enraged over these statements, and several of which I personally don't care about, like the "stealing", don't care if it's stealing, gonna still do it, or your opinion if these look good or not, for me what is most important it looks better than most western or pixiv artworks while having to put in 0 effort, so dunno man, maybe other proompters are upset, me myself don't really care, unlike several artists who feel threatened over it

>>6377766
Ok. Good for you. Many people consider piracy legally and morally wrong for many reasons, yet many other people still do it everyday for several other reasons.
You clearly don't care and probably aren't going to change your mind no matter what. So you just do you. Just tag your AIshit if you post it online so i don't have to see it.

>>6377773
>Just tag your AIshit
Tag your stuff as nonaishit or "zero technology used" or whatever. Show us how to do this.

>>6362909
>There are something very souless about AI that I cant explain but I always spot them.
Think about this statement for a minute

>>6377662
>Digusting artists are the problem
But your art robot uses the artworks of these “disgusting artists” to generate images for you.

>>6362886
AI will win as long as the internet runs on keyword-based search based on the queries of non-artists. It’s why unskilled artists who pander to a niche can do so well these days by drawing rule34. AI just skips the middleman and generates exactly what non-artists want.

>>6378927
basically, actual amateur = artists, while professional = AI

:^)

>>6368973
>who the hell says this
sneed city slicker.

>>6378927
You all worship so much the AI, but it’s just as good as the artists it was trained with.

>>6362886

>>6369374
>
May be. But for now, AI is laughing stock.

I just made an AI name #DilatedaggotsAI that can generate perfect picture with perfect hand. Not free though. I will post it in Twitter. Keep the tag in check

>>6382310
The name can be change, in that case I will still post in that tag

>>6381840
It also trained on photographs, so it could possibly inject real-world details into a given artstyle even if no artist ever drew them

>>6382330
Many photographs are themselves art products.

>>6365287
>of course in this fucking cultural apocalypse it's porn that drives all cultural change

so what actually is a good ai site tho?
i keep seeing shills everywhere touting it but i only know the first dalle e and its shit.
I wanna use your stupid ai to get weird references pajeet, cough it up

>>6383528
just google stable diffusion

>>6383528
>>6384154
Despite AI art being a reallly hot topic here and everyone keep spamming generated art everyone, in fact, most people outsite this art and tech niche don't know how to use AI, that's why it's also hard to talk about its real impact in the market.

>>6365089
>Death of the death of the artist
With story and animation AI on the horizon, it's becoming clear that the only way to stay relevant as an artist is to make yourself the art. It's no longer about what you make but the fact that you made it.
But I liked death of the artist. I hate e-celeb BS.
I preferred being a faceless machine that created what I wanted to see. Now better machines will exist and I wonder if I was even in it for the right reasons. I hate it and I hate the questions it's making me ask.

>>6377740
>Most they seem to be crying about is the GPU prices
And even more often they cry about being "gatekept". and because they get made fun of when they try to argue that prompting is a talent.

>>6385239
I don't know how these social media obsessed artists do it. Is there a way to change your temperament regarding this?

>>6385239
No one could have seen it coming anon, don't be too hard on yourself. The only answer is to unplug from the computer and find real communities of artists offline to network and collaborate with. The web is becoming an empty place filled with fakes and bots and it's not just the art realm that is suffering from this.

You guys need to accept that the world is changing.

>>6385352
>Yes, just accept it and let yourself be slaughtered, goyim.

>He's still bumping this 10 days old day thread with the fakeass demoralized artist falseflag
Imagine if this guy put half this effort in something useful

>>6385390
Every time I think about AI art, I feel like I just wanna kill myself! Don't you agree, my fellow artists? Isn't it just hopeless? I think we should all get a real job and learn to prompt!

>>6385390
Thank god it's not just me noticing, every time I click in to one of these threads the majority of these posts talking about being miserable over AI just scream falseflag to me.
>>6385403
Art is officially over bros... I give up... I know no one looks at the proompters images because they're the visual equivalent of spam with nothing interesting in them and clockable a mile away as AI but it's ogre... it's all I think about, I'm killing myself because I wasted my entire life...

>>6385352
>just accept being a slave, having your balls cut off and being forced to eat bugs for the rest of you life. Things change its a chance to adapt and grow!

>>6385440
Anon, why would you kill yourself when you can devote your life to making AI fags miserable? We can't just let them happily prompt in peace. There's a price to pay for all this disruption. Don't make me do all the trolling myself.

>>6385389
>>6385491
These two are too threatened to accept the changing world
Luddites lol

>>6369374
It will always be flawed, because you're describing a picture you're probably struggling to imagine as a non artist to an ai that uses clip to approximate human understanding

It's much easier to just draw than what you're trying to do. Unless you accept that you're having fun playing a slot machine for guiding random pinups, it looks so bad acting like this is going to replace people. It's a design limitation, you'll never have enough control to replace artists - you yourself can't hope define all of the strokes a human artist makes.

That's why the arguments by ai fags revolve around
>well, it can do fingers now!
>look, it can learn styles!
Of course it can, so can pajeets. But just like pajeets, you can't control them because of the language barrier. They speak a little bit of English, but they'll never be any good at it and you're wasting your time.

>>6386588
> Unless you accept that you're having fun playing a slot machine for guiding random pinups
That’s the real struggle with AI art, not the quality. Eventually, they may fix those errors, but this lack of control and randomness won’t go way, at least not with this architecture.

>>6386588
There are nothing can stop me from photoshoping various existing artworks into one picture and claim it was made by AI art #DilatefaggotAI.
Until they realize they are just thief, I will continue to have fun with their kike word play.

>>6386588
The reason why people think it will replace people is because the people that were paying creatives were probably doing the same, telling them what to do and letting the creative guy design it from the ground up. Now you tell AI what it needs to do and it will then proceed to do it. And if you are thinking that directors will struggle with it, you are correct, which is why it will also replace directors and idea guys. If you are creative who does not want to use this slot machine art generator for your project, then you will soon be replaced by similar AI that will not have the problem working with random slot machine.

>>6386605
Maybe choose different name. That name was too lame.
#daileifagoAI
#JPCNbrothersAI

>>6386606
I don't agree. It's too low quality and fever dreamy to replace concept artists. The people who will use it for that, maybe small companies, aren't going to be hiring people for those roles, anyway. And the slot machine problem will exist as long as they use word prompts, because it's the translating the idea or mental image into text in the first place what has the most information loss - never mind all of the extra fucking around with models, hypernets, etc, that each introduce their own extra noise from the same process of trying to describe images using words. And this is on top of the settings departing from your imagination. i don't have a cfg slider in my head or on my stylus. I don't need to find the right everything when I want to draw something, I just do it, and then I refine it until it's bleeding close to what I was thinking of. And that factor while small for me, is going to be massive for AI after all of those things.

So as a simple creative aid, maybe, but I don't see anyone losing their jobs to it.
>[100k word prompt]
>Ah, so that's what the Queen being shagged by Hitler looks like! It's a shame it isn't 30% what I imagined and most of the details are wrong, but after rerolling this a dozen times, he is indeed properly shagging her, and so I am happy with the result. Hm, maybe I will make a film about this. "The Hitler who Shagged Queen Elizabeth".
I don't know, though, we'll see. I'd love for a world where nobody had to draw. Imagine waking up in the morning, and being able to continue your dreams without any time limits. I would be overjoyed if ai imaging and everything else got to that point.

>>6386605
>Anon discovers photobashing

>>6386641
It's not clear to me that translating imagination into language constitutes greater information loss than translating imagination into drawing. But it also doesn't have to be one or the other, you could use both.

>>6386909
>It's not clear to me that translating imagination into language constitutes greater information loss than translating imagination into drawing.
Not him, but one thing is clear, though, by using a pen to draw, you're indeed drawing.

By using words to tell a computer what to do, you're simply giving a task to the AI, which will then proceed to generate a random image based on your prompts.

>>6386939
Well you're definitely not drawing, but the imagine is also not random, it's guided by definition.

>>6386641
Well, the best you can hope for is highly advanced img2img that is also heavily calibrated towards you and rather makes objects instead of making full pictures (you prompt bush and it spawns bush as a new layer with transparent background).

Maybe the other thing would be to have some brain reading device. Does not need to be chip put inside of your brain, could just be some helmet that detects your brain signals or something.

>>6362984
No tools, just skill.

>>6364566
Holy SHIT that other anon was right about AI not understanding what depth/perspective is. Literally can't understand the shape and form of the characters.

>>6362886
Many years ago I joined Pixiv & it was a breathe of fresh air. Too many restrictions, asshole art communities, & godawful art from westerner art sites made me leave places like DeviantArt, HentaiFoundary, & many others. When I saw the western companies simping for BLM in 2020 is was a major eye opener.

Now that the western gaijins have gone to Pixiv, that site will be under the wrath of the globohomo. I just wanted to draw boobs for god's sakes.

>>6387179
You just don't get avant-garde

>>6364566
It will not replace creative but the people behind it - Elite kikes will use it to kill your creative. Once they copyright their "AI art", they will copy strike every single artworks in The World claiming they was made by or traced their AI. They already testing the water by released millions of zogbots accusing real artists of using their AI. Even in trad art video you will see comments like: "This artist copy AI style and just redraw it on paper".
Kike want to control art.

>>6369374
>now it's girls in the background.
You mean the second girl nearest to the back that literally has no fucking head?

>>6386909
>It's not clear to me that translating imagination into language constitutes greater information loss than translating imagination into drawing.
Well, it's an extra layer of abstraction.

Put it this way, when we draw, we're thinking about to draw, we're making the marks, and we're assessing them, and doing it until we're happy, and we do this until we have a picture.

When we use AI instead, what's happening is, we're thinking about what to draw, we're translating this into words - at this point already the idea is gone - we get an image, and then and then we're refining those words and other settings. However much you're happy with, it's worse than commissioning a drunk artist, because they will never "get it" because they're using a statistical model of language to understand your words, and with all of the other models doing their own thing (and I realised this very quickly when making hypernetworks - because you tag the images with example prompts and while it's very easy to train in major mistakes even without the mistakes the words will never capture and differentiate the images well enough for the AI to learn the style beyond a surface level, most of the information we need to make satisfying images is not definable in text) compounding the noise every time.

Outside of diagrams and other things that are made to deal with information, it's very hard to use words to capture images. A picture of a red-orange-yellow icepop in a cave. Well, what does the cave look like? The icepop? What kind of rocks are there? What are their sizes? There are an almost infinite number of questions that must be answered and comprehended until you know what I'm thinking of beyond a simple catch all concept. We're not going to be able to exchange our ideas on it, using an ai filtering our words, it's so simpler just to draw what we think. "Here is more or less the icepop and cave I'm thinking of" - an impossibility with AI, however much text is given

>>6387179
We were the first ones saying it's just photobashing shit together. Pretty useless if you want something with substance.

>>6369374
>First it was hands
first? WAS? lmao
>now it's girls in the background
not now. has been so from the start

>>6387460
Why need to prompt when you just can cut and paste multiple art to a picture. Promting tell a bad photoshopers to steal art for you and they do it like shit.

>>6387460
Doesn't really address my thought. It's still not clear to me, even if there are multiple extra layers of abstraction not every layer would be equal to every other layer. But anyway it doesn't really matter because the main point is that it's a false dichotomy, you don't need to use just AI or just draw, you can do both or you can do neither.

>>6385491
>>6385389
This is what you already are anon. if you had any balls you'd get 10,000 strong like minded people and burn down the federal reserve and kill everyone and their families involved in it and the IRS.
You know you never will, and I wouldn't accept being slaughtered like cattle either, but if none of us are willing to be one of the first few cows shot by the butchers gun then you better believe we're already live stock

>open AI goyslop image
>my eyes are drawn to the corner of the image
>instantly realize who was ripped off due to the signature
lmao

>>6387603
ok, buddy
You nigs need to calm down and just draw, whatever is happening won't stop or slow down because you blow off some steam on 4reddit.
All these ai threads invariable turn into nat/soc pol threads bitching about Blackrock and trannies.

Work on you art.

>>6387612
Who did the ai rip off of?
The sigs are generated too, not copypasted.

>>6387613
I'm pro ai, but I also am working on art anyway.
>noo you make less than half the buying power of minimum wage 40 years ago despite making almost 25 an hour today, but don't complain about it goy!
Where the hell do you think we are faggot? raise a generation of underachievers and coincidence away our money and then you wonder why todays generation does nothing but complain on shitholes like this. I'd say enjoy your early retirement boomer but I'm 100% certain nobody that age would stick around here.

>>6387615
>the sigs are generated
the sig is quite obviously chunie's signature, but jumbled

>>6387620
I guess whoever trained the model really liked this guy's art and over rep'd it among others...

>>6387624
most likely, there have been instances of ai copying or tracing but that guy didn't post the image closest resembling the one you did. so I have to assume it doesn't exist.

>>6387625
each one of you AIfags should be executed.

>>6387625
>ai copying or tracing
it doesn't work that way

>>6387627
it's fascinating tech, try learning about it, if only to shitpost more intelligently about it
https://youtu.be/1CIpzeNxIhU

Do you artfgas even possess enough brain cells to watch this, or do I need to find a even dumber video, maybe something with a woman
https://youtu.be/yTAMrHVG1ew

>>6387634
You're right anon, it doesn't exactly photobash
It can potentially do something very VERY close to tracing however, I think it's fair to call it that in some cases.

>>6387637
Not really, since tracing and copying in this context have such negative implications, let alone potential for lawsuits and such.

I'm a beginner drawfag myself, so I can understand a bit of how it would feel to spend a decade creating your own style and some faggot trains a model off my work and produce endless knock offs, mostly bad, some even better then what I can draw in seconds, I'd certainly feel ripped off.
But this the new reality, like cameras and digital art and shit, we're all going to have to adapt to it.

Especially you tough guy ;) >>6387627

>>6387634
>it doesn't work that way
it most certainly can.

ai doesn't understand what tracing or copywrite violations are, and there have been obviously infringing images
>>6387627
eat shit faggot.

>>6387627
You know, I used to give these people the benefit of the doubt at first. But now that people are setting up pay-to-use services for generating art in any artstyle while these techfags keep up their cultist facade how this tech HELPS artists and how it doesn't exploit the labor of millions of artists...?

Kill every single technigger.

>>6387654
The only reason to learn programming will be to make these techniggers' lives a living hell. Fight fire with fire since they have zero respect for the rules of the old world.

>>6387654
>cultist facade how this tech HELPS artists
yes, it turns all PAYING users into ARTISTS,lmao

I don't know why you fags feel "betrayed," they never needed your permission to train their models, and you've never had any power to stop them.
Quit acting like you are involved in any of this.
Any real money made will be by Dalle2 being included in the new Windows Office updates to poop out "free" stock art.

>>6387656
>>6387654
technigs are all gone already, replaced by pajeet script kiddies for years, you might as well be boomer bots on fB, fuckgin retards

>>6387641
>I'm a beginner drawfag myself, so I can understand a bit of how it would feel to spend a decade creating your own style and some faggot trains a model off my work and produce endless knock offs, mostly bad, some even better then what I can draw in seconds, I'd certainly feel ripped off.
this shit ALREADY happens. It's called the anime industry. Some faggot draws a manga, then rich nips and lately jews pay a ton of people to mechanically draw that shit out as if it were a machine. Some styles are so popular and influential that anime studios will produce original works that piggy back off of the style that made them that popular, as well as individual manga artists. The entire genre of anime's look today evolved from just a few artists in the 60s and early 70s.

Thanks to shit like the federal reserve everyone is a poor disaffected wage slave and entire generations of underachievers are now poised to be able to use AI as a production line for their fantasies, ideas, and dreams. Many of them will crash and burn because it takes additional talent vision and skill and most of us do not have more than one if that even with AI to produce something usable, but don't sit here and tell me making money off of someone elses style is illegal, It's always been legal for the rich and the skilled to do just that. Starwars itself was just a big budget sci fi serial. People with money can ape whatever style they want. Now suddenly poor people can do it so you better believe theres an ocean of shills pretending to hate AI so that enough lawsuits can be dragged before the courts and outlaw any way for the little man to achieve anything while making sure all of the controls gaslit retards want to protect their small time shit end up worse off for them instead.

>>6387656
theyre already a living hell you fucking homo. why do you think theyre eager to use this technology to get out of coding. no one wants to work with or for pajeets.

>>6387661
MEDS, now

>>6387661
>Now suddenly poor people can do it so you better believe theres an ocean of shills pretending to hate AI so that enough lawsuits can be dragged before the courts and outlaw any way for the little man to achieve anything while making sure all of the controls gaslit retards want to protect their small time shit end up worse off for them instead.
The only shills are you AI cultists failing to realize your end state is dealing away with artists, musicians, designers etc. and making new business in the form of model trainers and data collectors while devaluing the value of art itself through mass excess.

>>6387664
>dumb glowzigger has no arguement so hes here to seeth that I'm telling the truth.
The average fast food employee cannot buy a big mac with their own hourly wage when 40 years ago an hour of minimum wage could get you 6 of them. Even now I make a decent ammount of money for a poor person. Over 20 an hour. That's less than half the buying power of minimum wage 40 years ago.

You think this shit doesn't affect the art industry? go fuck yourself. Artists have almost always been paid practically nothing and now people have a chance to realize their artist ambitions without having to be paid like a tween drawer for cloverwurst.

>>6387668
>>6387667
you will be paid by market forces
you are only worth what the market can bear

just because you like to doodle, doesn't mean you deserve any money

>>6387667
art is already devalued through excess you retard, and musicians, artists, and designers are being dealt away with for over 10 years with political propaganda being shoved from down high the board of directors eager to sign on black rock to their companys payroll.

Do you actually intend to fucking argue that the market for art would not be completely different if people were not robbed to pay for schlomos money laundered banana on a wall? I can barely afford a roof over my head let alone fund another artist. If I was making the kind of money they made 40 years ago just doing a burger flipping job I could hire one of you retarded commissioners full time for what you make now. AI is mass produced art, the means of production, given to the masses. so no shit commies hate it.

>>6387672
>m-muh market forces
Stop printing money glownigger,

>>6387673
yes, yes, w/o them jews, you'd be SO rich, deep in art pussy, what a champ you've have been, sad really

>>6387677
No retard, I'd have a house and some actual money to rub together for some projects, instead of living in a single room giving up most of my wages to care for my retarded elders.

>>6387675
So, like you draw anime tiddies all day and take a break with schizo post?
Is this how it works?

>>6387673
>AI is mass produced art, the means of production, given to the masses. so no shit commies hate it.
Ah yes the cost of paper and pencils, truly an endevour only for the elites.

>>6387679
Maybe get a real job, not scribbling on paper like an animal.

>>6387660
>>6387662
Your lives need to be even more miserable.
Techfags will never automate their own source of income so it will be the duty of former artists to do it, even if it will mean teaming up with pajeet script kiddies.

/g/ coders deserve the same wage as doodlers in a post-AI world.

>>6387680
fuck no, I am not a professional artist, and I would heartily recommend anyone that wants to be one find a different career unless they are good enough to start a product line, such as a game or merchandisable cartoon.
>>6387683
are you getting roasted so bad by my arguements you have to switch tactics and pretend to be for ai now?

>Has no arguments anymore about the validity of AI art
>Unrelated doomposting and shitposting starts
Getting real tired of this rerun

>>6387682
>he thinks time is not the most valuable commodity.
enjoy being paid 1/6th of what your time would be worth 40 years ago retard. dumb glowies cant even construct an arguement.

>>6387688
I have both in equal quantity, faggot.

>>6387688
my fav part is the /pol/ shit because /pol/ and /biz/ is all these shills were trained on

It's hilarious. It hasn't been worth it to post anything SFW or heartfelt on the internet in years but right now it's even more of a net negative.
Like, literally, what do you gain?
>all you can get is "likes" because nobody will pay you for anything unless you're a special alphabet person who's oppressed (in America) or you draw porn
>if you get "likes" it's from bots or retards trying to fish for you to like back
>if you want any exposure you have to suck up to other artists who are all psychopaths and mostly feminist women who hate men competing with them
>if you want any exposure you have to be a white-hating, nigger-loving gay communist tranny cripple Jew with vitiligo and broadcast this to the world 24/7
>people with 1/10th of your skills who are approved will always get more exposure than you
>people with 1/1000th of your skills who draw porn will always get more exposure than even the hip alphabet faggots you and get their dick sucked 24/7
>literally a month's worth of your best work vs. a 5 minute shitty sketch with a dick in it
>people will randomly decide to sling insults at you for random shit because it's the internet lol
>people will steal your shit because it's the internet lol
>people will draw your characters or whatever getting raped by niggers because it's the internet lol
>people will bitch at you for not drawing characters getting raped by niggers because if you don't love porn you're a heckin' bigot
>people will bitch at you for not being gay or not having any gay niggers raping gay characters because diversity is important
and now
>you're feeding this shit to AI so you can get a picture of your characters getting raped by gay niggers with the click of a button
L M A O
M
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I literally cannot conceive something more cucked than posting art online in 2023. I think everyone's understood that the "industry" is a fucking meme and you won't get hired. I don't even know if chinkshit phone game companies will hire you for peanuts anymore. Cucks.

>>6387641
>Not really, since tracing and copying in this context have such negative implications, let alone potential for lawsuits and such.
For good reasons. It is, after all, using copyrighted data to potentially profit from it.
Overfitting really is, for all intents and purposes, an error in the machine that sometimes causes it to do something so close to a trace/photobash that it may as well be, even if the process to attain the result is convoluted. I think it's hard to defend against this in good faith.

>>6387704
https://youtu.be/xB6hZwYsV2c

>>6387710
lmao all you faggots draw nothing but cancerous "fan" art in one of literally 2 poses (the presenting ass pose and the spread pussy pose) then you bitch about a computer "copying" your work when it actually shits out derivative shit, just like you do
you are complete worms, AI fucking you in the ass is probably the only good thing that's coming out of it.

>>6387713
Sure, good deflection sir, very good, please do the needful

>>6387713
>2 poses (the presenting ass pose and the spread pussy pose)
good poses

>>6387704
Have you ever read a post so bad you wish it was made by a bot?

>>6387712
I don't click links on this shithole. I block images as well. Everything you fags produce is disgusting cancer.
It's been lovely to sit back and enjoy you getting asspounded by AI. You're getting destroyed by your own poison, being a bunch of creatively bankrupt parasitic little fucks

>>6387704
so don't post your work online for social shit
you sound so bitter like a failed insta 'tards

if you can't create anything w/o having it validated by online losers, it shows us what kind person you truly are

>>6387720
>a bot so advanced it sound exactly like a retarded anon

>>6387723
Shut up and suck my cock, hooker.

>>6387726
sh...

I hope you all die a horrible death. Fucking parasites all of you. You have shit taste and you are shit. You have ruined art. You are literal whores and the world would be better off if you offed yourselves. I am glad at least that a bunch of you parasitic shitstains from Russia are being sent to die like you deserve. Good fucking riddance.

>>6387732

>no arguments anymore
>image spam and falseflagging
I'm also tired of this rerun

>>6387735
>doesn't even sage
thank you for bumping the thread again, shill-kun

remember to make 6 more when this one dies

>fucking parasites! I'm glad you're getting replaced by... even worse and more shameless parasites!!!!

>>6387735
what argument?
>I don't like ai art, pls stop
isn't an argument, retard

>>6387736
We're past bump limit dear tourist the thread doesn't get bumped anymore and I always sage in AI shitposting threads.

>>6387739
damn boomer, you got me, we're indeed past 300 posts

>>6387732
>>6387723
>>6387720
Is some pajeet coming in after me and trying to larp as me ?

anon, if this is your competition, were you really an artist?

>>6387634
>Do you artfgas even possess enough brain cells to watch this, or do I need to find a even dumber video, maybe something with a woman
tech bugman whose brain is too lazy to do something so he resorts to the most pitiful shortcut ever, which is so limited that he cannot even use it to project his mental images unto a canvas.....telling others they don't have a brain. oh you small souled bugman, you're a slave to your instant gratification dopamine fried brain

>>6388811
a lotta buzzwords for a dumb artfag, lmao