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Why did I fail? For months I tried, never got better.

>> No.6362052

>months
Try years. U failed because u stopped trying.

>> No.6362066
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But AI art allowed my drawings to surpass what should have been mine. Art is my enemy

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>>6362066
For months I trird day after day, never improved. I can only hope the tech gets better, artists shouldnt exist.

>> No.6362078

>>6362047
But you didn't fail, did you? The right one has far better construction. Now you need to study and practice rendering it in a more appealing way on top of continuing your fundies.

>> No.6362083

>>6362068
it's salty retards like you that are the problem, not the technology.

>> No.6362098
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>>6362078
Fuck off, I have no talent.

>>6362083
Haha, I was called talentless, my revenge is traning models on artists now
Art is my enemy and now I can really take shots at it

>> No.6362101

You stopped, there’s your answer

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>>6362101
What about when ic called me the worst artist? That I should do the right thing and quit, I did it
I train models on artists, working on a proper Masaaki Yuasa, I hate him, he eas one of my heroes and he would call me talentless too

>> No.6362109

>>6362106
your brain is trained from prehistoric times to ignore the 10 people praising you and pay attention only to the one crab nigger

>> No.6362127

>>6362098
Assuming it's actual the schizo and not someone larping, the drawing here is fine progress. Stop listening to only one person insulting you and throwing a childish tantrum over it. As long as you draw there will always be someone who will dislike you, of course you're a beginner but your progression is decent. Your issue is your attitude, and it's proof you're not cut out for being serious about art. If a crab or two bothers you so much and makes you sperg out on threads you are NGMI and most of the people who shit on you now do it because of your personality and attention whoring. Most of it comes down to your mindset. You have improved more or faster than some other anons I've seen on here who have drawn way longer and more than you. You only want to validate your own insecurities from other people to agree with you so you can wallow in miserable self-pity and bitterness. You need to fix your neuroticism and mental issues.

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>>6362127
>>6362109
Bullshit, now you say this, now.
Too little too late, I hope my Yuasa model, no, it has to be perfect to end thst fucker, I hate him
One of the latest drawings I did, funnily enough AI has managed to reach 65% of the desired style I had in mind, I never tried again, never will try to become an artist. I still, through my tears remember being called talentless, how others improved way faster than me, everyone didm

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I was told to quit on a daily basis back then

>> No.6362168

>>6362148
Why do you hate Yuasa?

>> No.6362170

>>6362148
its not bullshit your brain evolved to see 10 ropes and know which one was a snake and not a rope

>> No.6362183
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I'm someone with a strong vision for my own actions, I desired an artstyle that could express something I've always felt.
The Machine IS NOT good at it now and I dont even care to use it, I merely want it to appear once as I imagine it, to have my dream crushed for a second time. The first death when I never improved despite hard work, despite all I did, the second will be the most pleasurable, to understand that even a machine could do me in another time.
I won't try again because I have no talent.
>>6362168
He was one of my heroes, he woulr call me talentless too, laugh at my art like everyone here did and who can blame them? 7 months then a year and a half no improvement

>> No.6362218

Figure drawing is some of the most advanced stuff you can draw. Especially drawing heads. It just needs one error and the whole thing looks off. Why start with it? Draw some boxes. That will be enough of a challenge already.

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>>6362218
Fuck you, fucking fuck.

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>> No.6362229

>>6362226
Fucking old whore fucking cunt.

>> No.6362258

>>6362106
Even if you manage to get ai making yuasa art, how exactly would that hurt him? He is almost 60 years old, and is an animator, who's animation techniques are so wild it would no be possible for machine learning to replicate. His creativity is you love him right? How fresh his work is every time? AI can only copy. You have now way of achieving that goal. Give up now. Yuasa would want you to just draw without comparing yourself to others. You don't have the temperament for sharing your work online in this state.

>> No.6362268

>>6362258
*No way of achieving
How many hours did you draw total anyway? Took me about 5 years to get out of beg. I should have spent a little longer each day and not closed my sketchbook out of frustration or fear.

>> No.6362285

>>6362047
The schizo is back and now is sucking imaginart ai cock!

>> No.6362430

>>6362268
4 to 5 hours a day for 8 months.

>> No.6362601

>>6362226
what the fuck does weight distribution and martial arts have to do with perspective

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>>6362047
It sounds wrong but it's not as bad as it looks, few big mistakes break everything in drawings so you might feel you still don't know anything but once you figure how to fix them it will feel like you learnt a lot suddenly,
try different method from w/e construction you have been trying, simply trying different things will help you more than grinding same thing

right now I'd recommend trying more painterly approach, pick charcoal or softest graphite pencil (7B, 8B) and try to paint shadows instead of outlines of things, don't draw lines, not at any stage, just shapes use kneaded eraser only and never to correct mistakes but to scultp, paint a solid dark circle and then using only kneaded eraser pull darkness out to sculpt a sphere, watch some charcoal drawing/paintings or some oil underpaintings (zin lim on youtube , our painted lives, or whoever else)
no more lines, just shapes and sculpt forms for awhile. if/when you decide to try more "draftsmanly" appraoch again, do some Brague plates copies first then localised studies of parts of faces

If you really want to work with lines forget all the courses perpective/loomis or w/e for a few days or couple of weeks and simply focus whoevers linework you like, draw nose like that character has in that drawing you like, alot of linework feels like caligraphy, if you copy alot of pretty lineart you will learn it almost subconciously, its just quite tiresome and boring.

>> No.6362848

xmonths schizo, when you were at the 6 month mark you were better than 80% of people who have been drawing for that amount of time.

>> No.6362850

>>6362047
I like to imagine these threads are made by a group of discord friends who larp and post the work of someone they encountered on some art server who critiqued their work while being a /beg/tard himself

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>>6362850
You better hope you have talent for art because for narratives you're kind of a knuckle dragging nigger.
>>6362848
Bullshit, literally everyone was better than me.
When that japanese chink fucker girl improved what seemed like years in 6 months I knew it was over.
>>6362845
Fuck off I'll never try again.

>> No.6362888

>>6362601
you wouldn't get it

>> No.6362893

>>6362881
Take up calligraphy instead. You have talent there.

>> No.6362897

>>6362066
>>6362068
okay, now this is based

>> No.6362898

>>6362066
Are you just another aicuck doomposter or a schizo failed artist? I’m starting to believe most aishill are just permabegs seathing.

>> No.6362901 [DELETED] 

>>6362893
Kill yourself babe.
>>6362897
Kill yourself too.
>>6362898
Hm, my god three in a row? Get used to that noose and take the jump, faggot.

>> No.6362903

>>6362881
Then stop trying and start doing.

>> No.6362912

>>6362047
But the right one looks better than the left. That's improvement.

>>6362106
>What about when ic called me the worst artist?

/ic/ isn't going to matter in the long run of an art career. It barely matters in the short run.

>> No.6362914

>>6362903
No, it would take too long, I refuse to. I don't have talent, at 22, I'm too old.

>> No.6362918

>>6362914
>I don't have talent, at 22, I'm too old.
A bit on the nose don't you think?

>> No.6362920

>>6362918
I'm not trying again, I wasted a year drawing.

>> No.6362924

>>6362914
>Waaah it takes too long to draw!
If you're not even going to draw just for the sake of it, then fuck off and quit. No amount of advice we give will make you love something you hate schizo.

>> No.6362932

>>6362047
i feel the same anon

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>>6362047
>x months schizo is back
finally this board will improve again

>> No.6362945

>>6362047
AI shills are bored of proompting again? Jannies, do your job, please.

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>>6362920
I thought you were memeing.

Do you know of Jonathan Hardesty? pic rel was drawn by him at 24.
https://vimeo.com/29510470

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>> No.6362957

>>6362947
can you imagine how anons would have treated him if this was the board he decided to post his progress on? (lucky to have found conceptart.org in it's early days)

>> No.6362959

>>6362957
>Mogs me

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>>6362959

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>>6362947
He has talent, I don't have anything.

>> No.6362975

>>6362969
At 22, you are better than he was at 24. He would have considered you the talented one if you were there then.

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>>6362975
Bullfuckingshit, I give up.
6 fucking months, 6 fucking months right here, wasted time

>> No.6362989

>>6362981
You really don't think >>6362969
is better than >>6362947
?

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>>6362989
It's not, see one of the first drawings I posted here

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>>6362981
I gave up 19 times in 5 months i have been drawing.

>>6362109
>>6362127

As a begcel with similar issue i must correct you. Others opinions do not matter in this situation. If you're like this, it's quite literally in your head. It doesn't matter how many people will praise your art and tell you it's not terrible, your brain just casually ignores it. And it fucking sucks being this way and knowing nothing will fix you.
It's a very strange thing. Telling everyone you know you stop forever yet continuing to draw because there's some hidden drive inside you that keeps you from quitting despite the hatred you feel for your own creation.

>> No.6362996

>>6362989
There is no point in arguing. Even if his art is better than hundreds he will keep on saying it's terrible. And you cannot blame him for it.

>> No.6363000

>>6362996
Why is that? Why cant you blame me?

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>>6363000
Your judgement is misplaced yet not because you're a fool or an attention whore, but because you are ill. It'll sound like i'm a twitter/reddit tranny but I understand how it feels.
It feels like everyone is literally better than you. Like you have not made any sort of progress despite the fact you did. Like everyone is improving faster than you. It is in your head, eating through your brain like a worm. A mix of impostor syndrome, neuroticism (as the previous anon mentioned) and other complexes and fucked up wiring in your brain.

Only thing you must do now is to keep drawing and hope it will go away eventually.

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Lmao 2 years schizo,
Glad you are back brother

>> No.6363206

>>6362148
Your mentality is what is wrong with you never come back, never pick up a pencil again. If you really think you are NGMI stop drawing unless you are doing it as a hobby. If you continue to cling onto something that makes you miserable then you're a loser, but since you clearly keep coming back it's not because art makes you suffer but because you have awful issues with your ego, self-esteem, and mental problems. These are what are ruining you, and in any skill you try to pick up but don't improve quickly, these feelings will always manifest. I know because I've been there. All you can do is complain and whine like a loser when you should shut up and put the work in.
>>6362994
I haven been drawing for 12 years, I have gone through that phase for my first 8 years and I still do it. Yes it's a mindset, I would put myself down and I never could accept the compliments of others. If you keep saying you will never get good, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy and whenever I get back the "I'm a permabeg" urges I notice my art quality starts to downgrade drastically and I can't improve for a time. I had to learn to separate my ego and feelings from my art, and see it only as a craft or skill and this was how I improved.

>> No.6363320

Hahaha you have no talent! Please stop posting here!

>> No.6363322
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I've missed you so much, 4-months kun

>> No.6363355

>>6363322
My suicide will take place in less than two months

>> No.6363405

>>6363355
Please dont, you are my hero and besides this board has been a shithole in the past few months.

Yours sincerely.
Ten+ years permabeg

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>>6363405
Cheeky.

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>>6362047
Welcome back X-months-wasted schizo, your presence doesn't exactly make the board better, but it's better than the regular AI shitposting. Try not to get banned again

>> No.6363486

it was going so well without the same schizo regurgitated posts
i really hope its just some random autist just larping right now

>> No.6363521

>>6362898
>newfag zoomer spotted