/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6360135
I’ll say most servers have strict rules against nsfw stuff

can I draw loli?

Brian, your drawings are so delicious. I could see this in a museum

>>6360145
I started selling them separately on Etsy rather than eBay. Too many Ukrainians and Bulgarians and Chinese accounts you have to compete with on eBay. They sell a drawing for $10 and it’s a billion rubles for them so I can’t compete. I think there’s only about 50 accounts on eBay that make any money because they literally flood the market everyday with drawing auctions starting at $0.99 it’s a real shitshow

>>6360150
Don’t worry, we’ll solve the b*lgarian question after russians do their part

>>6360180
I’d say the average quality of art for sale on those accounts far exceeds the American accounts. But idk who wants rando Bulgarian portrait of peasant #2194726

>>6360135
Seems like tumblr's still winning the war.

I just think it's funny seeing all the big art accounts seething and crying about not wanting to leave because it's their livelihood lol

>>6360135
bags of sand

>>6360189
is tumblr the future of art social media?

>>6360219
No idea, but I think it would be wise to keep all options open and remain flexible especially in times like these. Ultimately it's the advertisers who get to decide what site will get the most foot traffic. All that's certain is that they collectively pulled the fuck out of bird app in what seems to be an orchestrated takedown. Not the place for growth anymore.

>>6360219
They’ve fucked it up once already, if advertisers flock to tumblr they will pull the plug on art again. I don’t think tumblr is it.

>>6360143
on baraag.net you can

>>6360135
Mastodon/Baraag is only for archival purposes, and there's only a niche of lolisho artists.

>>6360226
>>6360230
having browsed tumblr for 15 minutes, I'm already in love with it! So much beautiful photography. The aesthetics of the site... it's too much for me. Tasukete...

>>6360249
Apparently most of the blue hairs left for bird app years ago so a lot of users on tumblr now are trads who hate troons lmao

What's wrong with twitter?

>>6360253
based. Nothing but aesthetics and class there now.

https://www.tumblr.com/klassizismus

Brian cumfarti, is it the attentionwhore that had a reddit that looked like a white man that styled his hair with dread locks ?

>>6360261
No lol who the hell are you talking about. Newfag?

>>6360261
how new

>>6360257
In a nutshell:

>Mlon Eusk offers to buy twitter as a joke
>joke went too far
>gets forced into buying it
>fires 50% of staff first day on job
>advertisers start to pull out
>says blue checkmarks are required to pay $8USD a month to keep blue checkmark
>every big account joking about people saying they'll leave and not do it are now reeeing left & right now that said people are actually leaving

there's more to it obviously but that's the gist of it

>>6360275
Why stay. Musk thinks he’s a niche internet celebrity. At this point I just want to be where he isn’t because his aspergers fucks up everything he touches. I won’t be surprised if he pulls a MySpace Tom and makes every account automatically follow him

>>6360278
I don't care about any of this shit honestly or politics in general. I always hated twitter because that bullshit is shoved in your face no matter what. It's so demoralizing. I just want to post my shitty animay doodles and look at my buddies shitty animay doodles.

>>6360281
You’re free to not care about but when 99% of twitter becomes a subscription model you’ll be forced to care. Or forced to leave. One or the other

>>6360275
retard

>>6360288
Have any new insightful information you'd like to share with the rest of the class?

>>6360143
>>6360232
is there a defederated network for NSFW but NOT for loli/shota?

>>6360275
You left out the worst part - by Musk's own admission you will be suppressed by the algo if you don't pay the $8
https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/somebadideas/status/1588876465915166721#m

>>6360135
I've been floating around Fediverse sites for a while, so this renewed interest in Mastodon is pretty interesting. More often than not people are immediately put off by the learning curve, but I honestly think that people splitting from the monolithic sites are a good thing.
I personally use Diaspora and SocialHome more than Mastodon.

>>6360318
All this just seems too convenient, like he's trying to get the site shut down without outright admitting it. I don't see how anyone can be that retarded genuinely.

The stuff about robot slavery makes me think he's actually autistic.

>>6360327
Too much money and praise in someone's ass and they become retarted dickheads

>>6360318
you were already being suppressed by lacking the checkmark, he just made it so you as a rando can get it

>>6360329
Yeah I guess it's like mom putting your super saiyan goku art on the fridge and suddenly you think you're Picasso, but times a million.

>>6360318
Now's about time to trash our computers and go outside for once.

Just gonna leave this here.
https://fediverse.party/

>>6360261
No Brian’s a successful artist that is still somehow a complete failure

>>6360340
Why such an specific analogy anon?

>heh, you guys talk about leaving like you said you'd flee the country after drumpf was sworn i-
>NOOOOOO STOP IT I CAN'T JUST LEAVE TWITTER!!! MY LIVELIHOOD IS HERREE
>how am I going to get work now???
>you guyyyss I want to leave but I just can't, okay?
>p-please don't be mad at me if I give the autistic billionaire 8 burger bux, I LITERALLY have no choice I have to put food on the table...........
>waaaahhh it's really over isn't it?...

The saltmine from just the last 24hrs alone was sublime, and it's only getting saltier. Seeing all those massively inflated big art accounts going full doomer mode is something I never knew I wanted but have now graciously received.

>>6360383
Only pathetic men derive pleasure from the suffering of others.

>>6360383
this is literal crabbing, you're just hating on people who are scraping together a living (or at least beer money) from their art, extreme NGMI mentality and not surprising from an election tourist. kys

>>6360391
>>6360393
Oh 100% crabbing. These are all coomshits I hate with a fiery passion. They are hypocrites who talk the talk but when push comes to shove they back down like scared little lemmings.

I legitimately sympathize with you guys, though. I know you're cool and hope to find a way to keep on top whatever happens. I also hope to be up there with you this time.

>>6360135
>brian cumfarty

>>6360383
i kind of relate with this, it's quite amusing seeing people scramble for their lives

>>6360383
You'd be on the same boat with them if you weren't a NGMI crab permabeg.

>>6360135
Ok I'm willing to give it a try. Can you link a good mastodon art server?

>>6360416
Believe me when I say I'm grateful I'm a literal who art account nobody. If I had to justify giving Elon musk of all people money I might start cutting myself again.

>>6360318
OK assuming this is true, wouldn't it be a massive exposure opportunity for minimal cost as an artist? The masses won't leave as there's no twitter killer. And seething artists won't pay $8 to fuck the musk. And if people give you shit you can just say you're a starving artist and your livelihood depends on the platform

>>6360432
I don't know about "massive exposure opportunity" vs "necessity to prevent drowning in the algo" just because your head is barely above water doesn't mean you're swimming. Plus it remains to be seen how it's received culturally, will it be a "bully me" sign like hexagon avis were? Who knows. Maybe too early to call. But you could be right, I'm not discounting the possibility.

>>6360436
As long as you can communicate it was a "hard decision" "my livelihood comes first" it'll be morally hard to get "cancelled" by your audience. Of course this is assuming non-checks get deboosted far more than they already do. It could be a good opportunity

>>6360432
>And seething artists won't pay $8 to fuck the musk
All those seething artists are bargaining coughing up the fee. I don't think it's worth the headache for a few reasons. Just my 2 cents

>>6360447
Personally I won't because I barely draw and just shitpost on the chans. It'll be an interesting scenario for sure.

>>6360446
>It could be a good opportunity
im going to tell you this once, do not pay to use twitter

>>6360432
What masses? The majority of Twitter accounts are bots, by their own admission

>>6360526
The artists should be making money from exposure on twitter if they're staying there. Unless the bots are paying them and its all a big scheme.

>>6360539
That's the big use for bots, if you see some artist with art you like, you're a lot more likely to follow them if they have 100k follows vs 1k. The former implies that you're an idiot for not following them already and you've been missing out this whole time. The latter implies the person is good but if they were REALLY good then they surely should have 100k follows already? Therefore, there must be something wrong with them.

So in essence, even 100k fake people who don't exist at all are more "valuable" than 1k real people. It's all fucked.

>>6360391
ackchyually... pathetic men are those who suffer intensely and unnecessarily.
Epicariacs are those who enjoy seeing others suffer.

If you're gonna be a greekaboo do it right.

>>6360318
8$? OMG the price of a coffee, how will us Netflix/Uber/Amazon subscribers ever afford that?…

>>6360180
we shit on ur grave turk bastard

>>6362810
Only amerilards pay 8$ for a fucking coffee.

>>6362820
you LITERALLY call yourselves after the name of turkic chads who ruled you and fucked your women lmaoooooo

>>6360275
Leftard spotted. Dilate tranny

>>6360135
Mastodon is a Twitter leftard shithole. I'm not going. But you should go back to your liberal leftist echo chamber

>>6362839
COME to bulgaria motherfucker westerner say it to my face i fucking dare you, me and the boys will fck u up

>>6362844
lmao you can’t even fuck romanian gypsies jahahzha

>>6362844
Imagine being bulgarian and posting on /ic/ kek

>>6362852
we fck romanian gypsy every day because they want that bbc (big bvlgarian cock)

>>6362859
this is sacred land. u will remember 681 fast just come say it tjhat me and my boys we will smash you

Based Bulgarian

>>6360261
No, this is Brian
https://www.tiktok.com/@briancomforti

>>6360135
dude all instances of mastodon fucking suck, we really need to nerf the influence of the usa on the internet

>>6362841
Say less, signing up now

>>6362861
Based guy from country I know virtually nothing about

>>6360135
just use hive

>>6363459
Good Bulgarians doing their part to keep the Turkish hordes out of Europe (not really but they at least they try their best)

>>6362892
Man Brian is even more of a faggot than I previously thought.

>>6363480
The fuck did I do?

>>6363480
opposite for me, the more time passes, the more I like him

>>6360135
>It’s already super popular in Japan
Show me where you see this im curious

>>6362810
i dont sub to any subscription service and i will not be paying 8 dollars to reliably post on a fucking website.

>>6360189
I just wished tumblr had a better UI. Seems like the site been abandoned and no improvement.

>>6360135
I want to get on Mastodon, but I don't know which server to join. I also don't know if I'm being desperate or safely joining the bandwagon just yet.

>>6363459
they're the only white people in europe whose gross domestic product is carjacking people by jumping in front of moving vehicles on the highway

>>6360135
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

31

THIRTY-MOTHERFUCKING-ONE

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三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

>>6366996
The only art server I ever see discussed is baraag, and that’s for pedophiles.

>>6360138
I've heard they do sadly. sucks

>>6362844
You act like an aggressive monkey. As expected from your people, yet still disgusting. Kill yourself or learn manners to join civilised society.

If Mastodon was viable it'd have gone mainstream years ago and not now that twitter is shooting itself on the foot

>>6360135
Mastodon won't take off, there's too many barriers to entry. You have to make a new account for every instance and there were so many people making new accounts on the art instance that they started requiring invites where literally any other website, you have one account and then you can browse, post and interact immediately.

>>6370331
That’s not how it works, it’s all interconnected you just pick a small server as your address so uploads don’t take forever.

>>6370334
It's interconnected unles instance admins decide they don't like other instance and block all posts from reaching yours. Also if admin either forgets to pay or just ragequits the instance and everything within including your account is permanently erased. Among many other technical and cultural defects.

>>6360138
How strict are their nsfw rules? Can you post artistic nudity?

>>6370489
Yes but you have to manually tag it. Again it’s not great if you want to be an eceleb but if you already have a store or existing customers and want to expand your customer base it’s very very good at that

>>6370510
Definitely not interested in being an e-celeb. I just want a good platform for sharing my art with small/local communities in addition to discord.

>>6370525
It is absolutely that, try it

>>6370530
Will do anon

>>6363494
>>6363509
Brian, you are like a fine wine that keeps on getting better with age. I used to think you were a faggot, but now I will Stan for you. Godspeed, never stop painting.

My following results on Mastodon after about a week, some pretty popular posts

>>6373543
I can't imagine posting my actual face and name on 4chan, are you just so socially deprived that you get off on any type of attention, negative or otherwise? Do you not realize that directly linking yourself to this site can provide nothing but downsides?

>>6373587
Bro nobody cares, I promise you

>>6373587
this is just reddit in another coat of paint. what are you so scared of?

>>6373587
There’s literally no way to be linked to 4chan… that’s the point, and why this place is such a shithole most of the time.

>>6373587
>actually falling for the "hacker known as 4chan meme"
You smell like a newfag.
What you have to realize is that 4chan itself is a niche culture, with /ic/ being an even smaller subniche. When you realize that anons are not as harsh as the real world and are all nerds who are bored and want to something with their lives you'll find that most of the jealous fags who are actually malicious are very rare. There's always going to be that one guy but they don't last long, and if you do good work and cultivate a supporting audience none of that shit can touch you.

TL;DR Lurk moar, and don't be a pussy lmao

>>6362892
I liked the videos about Michaels, asexual reproduction vs the nonbinary, chess, housing prices, bluetooth headphones, etc. You'll have to build on that but I'd like to see you at a comedy club, and if you do standup make sure the audio is recorded well. You should release a comedy album. Did you get the bit about NFTs from Dilbert?

>>6374687
My better stuff is on Instagram stories but those all go away after a day. I’d rather be a writer than a performer

>>6360135
I've been using baraag for about a year now.
I always avoided other platforms like the plague because I found it hilariously depressing to see art platforms that tell you, the artist, what is and isn't okay to illustrate.
I never even used to draw loli shit until the last few months. I was perfectly able to use other sites, and probably still could get away with using most of these since I don't draw anything particularly inflammatory.

I just fucking hate the idea of some faggot who has probably never created anything in his life trying to define what is isn't okay in the world of creative medium. If I'm going to use a place as a gallery I'm not going to fight whatever agenda the owners are either pushing or allowing to stay in place. Simple as that.

>>6374731
STFU pedophile.

>>6373587
I dunno seems pretty based to me

>>6374731
Alright do you make money that way or is this just some NEET war you’ve waged

>>6374783
I do commissions from time to time, but I only work for people who come to me personally and ask because I really just don't like drawing for money but a part of me keeps kicking myself every time I ghost a potential client or say no a job, because deep down I like the idea of being paid for the thing I love doing but the stress of involving money just gets to me every time and then I look back and think I could have done so much better for my client
It's kind of a sore subject for me. It's probably worth mentioning that I have a normie job that pays better than I will probably ever be able to make as a freelance artist, with the added benefit of health insurance and the fact that paypal won't randomly decide I'm in breach of ToS and nuke me from orbit with the Jew laser.

tl;dr yes but no, please be patient I have autism

>>6374803
Okay. Just understand working artists do not have the luxury of doing any of that. The idea of saying no to a commission or purposely pissing off platforms that can help me is shooting yourself in the foot if “Artist” is your job

Are there any actually good mastodon servers or is this like joining discord where it’s all faggots?

>>6374843
Anyone pushing platforms to treat their users better is doing everyone a service. If you can't afford to piss off a platform because it provides your revenue, seeing someone else who isn't financially dependent on their art take a stand for artistic freedoms is a good thing.
tldr >>6374731 is working for your benefit, why get pissy with him?

>>6375028
Because those aren’t my interests he’s fighting for. The rules and regulations of markets and platforms are in place to let you the artist know how to succeed on them. Moving the goalposts in either direction doesn’t accomplish anything other than make the market you’re trying to break into more muddled and broad.

>>6375031
jesus christ what an shitty mindset, not even sure how to respond
you've given up your artistic freedom, the platform is not the market, reevaluate your stance

>>6375039
The platform isn’t the market for the top 0.01% of artists but to most working artists it’s a blessing not a curse

>>6373587
it's actually way better than posting your real name and face on Reddit or something, on those sites you have a persistent identity and people can trawl through your old posts. No one cares if you post on 4chan because A) 4chan != /b/ and B) unless you're posting hard Rs attached to your IRL identity, no one can prove you're posting anything controversial.

>>6374731
>I never even used to draw loli shit until the last few months.
well there you go, really. I'd use baraag if it wasn't "the loli site"

>>6376719
/ic/ is even the least anonymous because you have to post your work so much