/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

And a new addition, not technically a publisher, but a new platform to host your manga:

Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

>>6352781
I'll just dump it all here

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>>6352793
>Those eyes.
Anon.
Is this an horror manga?

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>>6352796
That's actually the second attempt I was told the first looked even more horrifying and buggish

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>>6352799
Also yeah I know it's not in monochrome but I got too far into it before realizing so I just made everything greyscale

>>6352788
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>>6352801
you have a very natural storytelling sensibility, your panels are actually readable. Now you just need to work on your drawing abilities.

>>6352802
Thank you anon that means a lot. I actually spent more time on the draft pages than the final linework just thinking about how to order things. Although I was pretty afraid before posting this that the dialogue and gags only made sense to me

>>6352802
idk, I'm left with this.

>>6352810
>>6352811
Yeah I could have made the dialogue smoother, I ended up actually removing a page because I thought this sequence was too long but it might have been better to keep it so things would develop more naturally

The results from the SMA 18 have been announced anons aaaand I didnt even pass the first review session...again...
I'm so fucking tired anons

>>6352780
>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
>https://medibang.com/mpc/

Shit I didn't know Shueisha had its webtoon esque website .

>>6352935
post your work so we can help?

>>6352957
sure anon here it is
https://smacmag.net/v/sma18/the-girl-near-the-tree-by-karma-ashi/

https://wingsofdaera.cfw.me
wow anon, you should really read my comic

yes I'm talking to YOU

>>6352780
I'll never have the confidence to participate in any of these.

>>6352945
it's great! anons were telling me about it last thread. I think not enough people read the /mmg/ op resource lists

>>6353612
This is not a finalized page.

bump

Anyone just kinda write the plot down before attempting to draw anything?

>>6354831
Lots of people are chronic procrastinators, yes.

>working on page
>want to make a quick sketch
>sudden urge to color sketch with marker
>forgot I left the page I was working on underneath the scratch paper
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>6354831
I just keep everything in my head
if I forget something then it wasn't a good enough idea

>>6354848
I totally missed the irony in my post here

>>6354831
I draw and write ideas at the same time. But I do want to have the plot summarized from start to end before I start so that I have a clear direction to move in.

Books have editors and several drafts for their stories, but it's a lot harder to go back and make changes to a comic book after you've drawn it.

>>6353612
Is this right to left?

The chick looks like she is being restrained, but her mouth looks like she's laughing about it. The arms also have very poor perspective and anatomy, you're not conveying the space and movement well.

I would also suggest moving her head over in the last panel so that the thought balloon doesn't cover her eye.

The little joke about her being imagined 'shoujo style' is also strange, since everyone on that page is drawn in the same style.

>>6351233
Page 6

Gonna finish part 1 at page 9 or 10, remake the first page and write down dialogues

i guess this is more of a writing question but i think it's pretty relevant
how do writers manage to have different subplots that connect together, weaving them in a balanced and interesting way, pacing them right, making sure it all neatly fits together?

one example is fullmetal alchemist, i find it extremely impressive how she managed to have all these subplots with so many different characters, each with their own goals, motivations, and circumstances, each having their part in developing the plot until it all comes together in the eventual finale. doing something like this feels nearly impossible to execute.
ive heard people work backwards but this feels constraining to me. if i have an established endgoal and i tunnel vision on it then ill end up making decisions solely for the sake of reaching it which im afraid will lead to writing events that'll feel forced and inorganic. Did she make it up as she went and it somehow all neatly came together? I have so many questions but is there something i could read that explains the art of doing this?

>>6356219
What's difficult about it? Characters obviously have different backgrounds in any story, to weave different subplots just, uh make subplots

>>6356219
2 ways to interweave subplots:
1. They're thematically related
2. They complicate each other.

Most likely you're talking about #2, which means you'll need to understand how to write scenes and complications.

>>6356241
yeah #2, like X happens in A subplot which leads to X character telling Y character in B subplot something which leads them to doing Z in whatever in the main plot meanwhile in the C subplot etc etc. there's infinite possible ways to take a story and maintaining it all neatly in an interesting way seems daunting. even if it boils down to scenes and complications the thing im grappling with is the larger scope of it all

>>6356265
I guess this is what separate geniuses from the merely good lol. Anyways, if you want to have a serialization, all that matters is keeping your audience week to week and telling a good, minute story. Maybe someday you'll make genius plots, but basic storytelling comes first.

>>6356265
A. James is playing in the garden waiting to catch the bus when at one point he finds a ball

B. John was playing ball with Julia on the street while they were waiting for the bus, when a kick to the ball brought it into James' garden

C. Nick was left by his wife for a stripper so he got drunk all night, had to get up the next morning to go to work as a bus driver, and while driving he hits a child who was coming out of his garden to deliver a ball to two others on the other side of the road

That's easy; FMA fma has 3 main subplots A. The Eldric Brothers (Chinese Ninjas are introduced here), B. Scar (later he'll meet Dr. Marco and the Chinese loli), C. Mustang: all three have a common setting (the army + homunuculs-Father), just give personal goals to the characters (like any subplot) and there you have it

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>>6356241
>>6356318

Goddammit!, what kind of moron writes like this? Do you seriously think that that Tolstoy or Hemingway ever think of
>duh I need subplot A and B....

No you idiot, they write at their heart's content, that's why they create such wonderful works. Writing comes from the soul, not some stupid formulas

>>6356318
i get youre explaining cause and effect but i think you are being extremely reductive
i can also puke out as many simple parables as you'd like but constructing an actual narrative is a completely different thing
i dont know how to respond if you think listing out 3 subplots completely encapsulates FMA's entire narrative. Besides leaving out a few smaller subplots (several of which end up conjoining with one of the main ones) it doesnt consider that even within those subplots there's many different things happening (sub subplots?). It's like you're telling me math as a whole is simple because you can do 2+2 while im scratching my head at people doing quantum field theory
yeah both are math and technically abide by the same principles but showing me a children's book doesn't really help me much

>>6356344
I think you would be surprised at how much work goes into actually good writing.

>>6356344
i don't think like this when writing tho, that would be rigid as fuck im just using it as a way to better convey what im trying to understand how to do

finished chapter soon(tm)

>>6356392
Looks pretty good dude.

>>6356107
Page 7

I'll probably change the third panel

So, where you fags post your mangas?

>>6352793
>>6352796

I think lean into the scary nature, makes for a nice gag when she 'steps' out of the halo in the next panel.

>>6356405
thanks non!

>>6356422
on tapas
https://tapas.io/series/Levis-Discography

>>6356219
Write some FMA fanfiction.

>>6356427
Some characters looks like Gyro and Hot pants from jojo

>>6352776
when i ink on top of underdrawing, the look of the underdrawing influences how i make the lines because when the underdrawing is removed, the lines are wrong and completely shit without them. I can make decent lines without using an underdrawing, but that is not a solution.
how to like not keep doing this?
i hate being happy with my lines -> hide underdrawing layer -> disaster lines

I have tried going as low opacity as possible on the underdrawing as possible, but it still happens. different colours doesn't seem to help.

thanks in advance

>>6356580
How do you draw without the underdrawing? Loose and carefree, or focusing and actively trying to create nice lines?

>>6356580
Try gaussian blurring it a bit before doing the lines.

>>6356583
Ah, depends. It is more towards the loose if there is line weight involved. It tends to get extremely messy.

If it is more monoweight lines then it tends towards deliberate and clean. Since I can immediately see if a line is bad i can redo it. But I can also only do such line drawings if there is a clear picture of what it is trying to do and that it is simple concept - this is rare.

>>6356584
it has attempted like this. it also doesn't matter if the underdrawing is wide lines/indistinct or if it is very tight lines in the underdrawing - once the underdrawing is hidden the lines are clearly trash.

>>6356629
>Ah, depends. It is more towards the loose if there is line weight involved. It tends to get extremely messy.
Then there's your problem: you're not actually very good at line work to start with. That loose feeling is what you should be aiming for in your more structured drawings, but that's the part that's difficult. You need more practice.

Maybe to add context >>6356580 This is maybe not best example, but it is the one i have handy.

Left is doing over the underdrawing, where I was completely happy with how it looked until i hid the sketch. Right is then redoing it basically, without an underdrawing. You can see how light i set the underdrawings in blue.

please understand i am very dumb

>>6356639
Maybe you're being too clean? Do you ctrl+Z often and use a lot of stabilizer? It can make pictures look a bit unnatural and robotic.
That said I don't see what makes left trash but right better. They're just different levels of detail. Outside the awkwardly uniform intervals and shapes for the hair, it's perfectly appropriate. Looks kinda like a distance shot version of the right one.

>>6356639
Have you considered just hiding the underdrawing as you go and fixing what you don't like?

>>6356639
Left looks amazing, right looks like deviantart shitty anime
Less is more anon, gg or you’re ngmi

>>6356636
i think i am like okayish with line work. of course i am practicing still

>>6356642
i do ctrl-z a lot, but i hate stabilizer, i only use enough to get rid of like hand shakingness.

maybe to explain it a different way. my process ends up being
>rough sketch
>refined sketch
>first ink (left of the first example) thinking i am completely happy with result, hide sketch, realise it is too basic and wonky for the level of detail wanted
>second ink that barely uses the first ink, lots of erasing and redrawing (lots)

i practice many times but this particular issue just doesn't get solved or improved

>>6356650
Did you mix up your left and right anon?

>>6356650
sorry. i am not very smart. i just try many things. sorry if i am not asking very manga questions

>>6356652
No, he's right. It's got an elegantly simple ligne claire look to it and outside of the lacking rhythm for the bangs I prefer it too.
>>6356651
In my opinion you're overthinking it. It's not unusual for a drawing to look jarring when you hide the sketch, because you're used to looking at more "information" and then suddenly it's gone.
Naoki Saito recommends filling a drawing in with greys before doing the lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=455OAQbNaBM
It's an interesting way of changing how you look at it after staring at the drawing for so long and helps you catch anything you might feel uncomfortable about later, but I'm not sure it's practical for a whole comic or if it'll help you.
Since you're erasing and redrawing already, try periodically hiding it as you draw the lineart to get a "preview". But I think it's normal for the lines to seem a bit strange at first, just because you looked at the version with the underdrawing a lot, so it feels uncomfortable and like something is missing.

>>6356652
Can’t you fucking read??
Right has too many unnecessary lines, specially the hair highlights

>>6356655
>No, he's right.
I don't agree. The rightmost drawing does genuinely look better, and is plenty simple. If you can consistently draw like that and stay on schedule then you're already on the level of the average pro mangaka. This is the manga general not the anime general, and the right looks more distinctly "manga" to me than the left which looks more like the crappy "anime" deviantart drawings he's talking about, so idk why that guy's saying the opposite.

>>6356657
>Right has too many unnecessary lines, specially the hair highlights
None of those lines seem unnecessary to me at all. They're all contributing to better defining the form. And I don't understand where you're getting this idea that one has to simplify to extremes when that's not at all a defining characteristic of manga. Just look at all these "unnecessary" lines.

>>6356655
The video has some ideas to consider.

>so it feels uncomfortable and like something is missing.
Yes, it could also be mental problems.

Uhh, to argument above - i just draw it until it pleases me. left of the first example does not please me. i dont actually care if i am perfect true spirit of japanese mangaka. if i draw in someone elses thoughts then i am not drawing my thoughts and so what is the point?

>>6356660
>>6356664
Are you retarded or something?
Your pic related is different because he used lines for the hair in a nice negative space composition, along the nice shading for the clothing and bg
Post your art, I bet you draw in a shitty manga style and your highschool weeb friends told you you were good because you cry with criticism

>>6356673
>Post your art
Well now you have to post yours, obviously.

>>6356660
There isn't a single unified "manga ™" look and if there were the right wouldn't be the dictionary definition of it. If anything it looks like something influenced by Ilya Kuvshinov.
Both are adequately drawn, so it just comes down to preference. I prefer simple drawings. That Anon doesn't, so I didn't factor my preferences into it when I responded to him. It's important taking a person's intent into consideration when giving critique.
It's a waste of time getting caught up on what looks "authentic" or doesn't. Solid black hair and few lines were standard in the 70's and common to this day in female demographic magazines. It doesn't mean much because there's an immense variety to how these comics can look. That's one of their biggest strengths.

>>6356667
I think it's definitely that. If you hide the sketch more often to check the lineart as you draw it should feel less uncomfortable.
I don't know if you roughly plan the values of the page beforehand, but once you spot the blacks and add the tones and textures that should help immensely too.
What makes that initial pass of lineart feel strange is that it's only one stage of what's supposed to be a whole. It's like an empty room.

>>6356677
>There isn't a single unified "manga ™" look and if there were the right wouldn't be the dictionary definition of it.
Why are you trying to implied that I said otherwise? I'm saying there are more manga that look closer to right than left, in that most manga aren't cutting out any "unnecessary" details.
>It's a waste of time getting caught up on what looks "authentic" or doesn't
I agree and that's not what I'm saying, I'm just responding to that anon's own cry to "authenticity" by saying it looks like some deviantart fake anime shit.

there is three different styles of the same panel posted maybe says i was just trying things out. you can see on the left here >>6356651 what i went with. the goal/intent was - simple enough to finish ever, but okay looking.

here is the underdrawing <3

>>6356692
Lol anon I think half the problem might just be you overdetailing the sketch. I mean that's pretty close to a finished drawing already, no shit it's going to look funky when you try to ink something you've basically done a full-value-range grayscale painting of already. Keep the sketches loose.

>>6356690
Yeah, I don't agree with that part either, but I wanted to stress to that Anon that there wasn't anything inherently wrong with left. I agree that it looks good, but not with the rest of the comment. I should've worded the reply better.

>>6356696
it was never a real example sorry. it was just what i had handy to illustrate .please understand it is hard to find an example because the intermediate ink is typically never saved, yes?

i have managed to find here a closer example now i have gone through to find it. this one was in a mode of 'fuck it, i will redo it anyway' so it is not very tight. i dont have an actual genuine example because they are not saved. sorry.

sorry

>>6356700
If you're trying to illustrate the initial attempt not matching your ideals that's normal. Even pros adjust as they go.
With time you'll get more things right the first time around.

>>6356704
aa am trying to say these are just attempt to illustrate the issue without having a good example to show because they are not saved. it is consistently much worse an issue than i can properly demonstrate. sorry

>>6356425
Amazing anon very nice, thank you. I was trying to go for a hyper moe kind of look but the art was holding it back. I like this idea too though, I just gotta practice my lighting

yo, heres some more hopeless. Trying to keep the protag faceless for now, but letting a few small features slip such as his eyes, skin color, scars etc. Got a lot of practice with shading so far, as well as drawing 'ethereal' characters. The Wish Giver is meant to be a fog-like being, with very little solid material in its form. I want it to come off as beyond human understanding, or at the very least supernatural/mystical in some sense.
The protag - who will get a name at some point - doesn't really have much of a character atm. I do plan on developing it, but currently am setting the stage for the driving point of the story.
This took me like 4 days to make, with probably like 6-7 hours of work. Still getting used to Krita, and I really need to start using a color palette (grey palette?) as well as actually do some concept art.
Feedback and flame much appreciated.

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>>6356580
Use the same brush for the underdrawing and the final inks. Working digitally you have no real reason to use a pencil brush for the underdrawing.

>>6356789
>>6356791
good stuff, I like how you stylized the wishgiver's dialogue and used a texture on him
middle left panel on p11 is probably the worst looking, but it's still readable
p11 panel 2 (dialogue above the eyes) could have been done better, without any separation between the different speakers' lines they run together, even if it's clear who's speaking
having dialogue in close proximity with no border can give the impression that lines were spoken without any pause between them, like completing each others sentences or interrupting someone, or that they're speaking over each other

Has anyone ever tried to replicate 90s art style in your manga?

Does it work?

>>6357223
What the hell is 90s art style, exactly

>>6356639
Just add the right's details after you finished the left one, that's basic rendering

here is my work for the sma competition what do you think anons?
https://smacmag.net/v/sma18/the-girl-near-the-tree-by-karma-ashi/

I've noticed that a lot of anons choose to submit some quiet, contemplative story to these contests instead of something more energetic.

>>6357483
mmm didnt think about that... yeah I think I will put more action on my next oneshoot

How can I simulate TV static with only a pen? No fancy digital tricks

I never really thought about it, but does the 180 degree rule in filmmaking apply to manga?

>>6357592
Yes, it applies to most visual storytelling mediums.

>>6357602
most sequential mediums, I mean.

>>6357557
Even in analog, people use tools other than a pen for effects.
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=B3AF7BF496073D11D7EC4E7C41D649BB
https://mega.nz/file/LvxXGKoR#c7vLWqyCS9Gq2zgKXlkyhocksSwFr1Ubbm-vDA4H0Co
You could try dipping different things in ink and seeing what you get. I think a kitchen sponge might get you something pretty close.

>>6357253
I don't know how to describe it but i know when I see one

Nothing matters except manga. School doesn't matter, my job doesn't matter, and my finances don't matter. I'm betting it all on manga.

Recommendations for manga done in traditional to study from?

>>6357840
Vagabond

>>6357840
That's way too general. What era and artists do you like, and what kind of work are you aiming for?
From the mid 80's to 90's you start seeing a lot more effects and patterns done with screentones rather than by hand, so that's something to watch out for. It's not universal, but if a pattern looks very regular and you see it often it's useful knowing it's a screentone you shouldn't be expected to copy.
Older horror like Panorama of Hell has a lot of black and very gritty textures you can be sure were done by hand. I think some of the gritty rock/brick textures are either drybrush or a grease pencil. As long as it's black on the page, it can be printed, so it's not unusual to have mixed media like that.

>>6352776
Can I send out one-shots of like 20 pages to publishers or will they get pissed it's not a fully realised serial?

>>6357929
Usually they want max 5 pages to speed check how you're good

>>6357774
gmi

I’d like to create some sort of anthology with other anons from /mmg/. Something similar to Heavy Metal where we get to draw a short story (2 to 10 pages for example) and compile it into a digital book.
I think it could be a good training for those who would want to be serialised/don’t have the motivation to make a story.
Would (you) be interested?

>>6358108
YES

>>6356891
Thanks, I'll give it a go.

>>6358108
Only if I get a theme because otherwise I'll be nitpicking everything I write and end up doing nothing.

>>6356580
If that feeling bugs you a lot, you could try Fujita Kazuhiro's approach - he does his sketches very roughly and sets down just the minimum amount of details you need (pose, proportions etc.), and on top of that he draws the actual lines.

With this method, you don't have to rely on your undersketch as much for the details, but the drawback is that you very much have to ad-lib it. Try it out though

https://www.naokiurasawa.com/fujita-kazuhiro/

Sharing something from a oneshot I'm working on - working towards submitting it to a manga competition soon. Keep the grind up eveyrone.

>>6352793
lmao

>>6357557
If you can get a ballpoint pen or some sort of gel pen, draw your lines while tilting it horizontally - scraping it like this makes your lines broken. You could probs do something like that for tv static.

>>6357869
I don't care about art style much and am more focused on how to git gud in technique. My Japanese influences are Takeshi Obata, Yoshitaka Amano, Mato, and Takuzo Nagano, other than that really not much (maybe I should ask in trad instead considering I don't have much manga influence and not many Japanese artists in mind). I'm currently studying Franklin Booth to learn his rendering skills but his powerlevel too high. Panorama of Hell looks interesting I'll study from that, and it looks like a good manga too. I don't have screentones so I'm looking to study without them.
>>6357859
Oh yeah true, Inoue has a lot of demo online, his powerlevel really high but I can still attempt study anyway, thanks.

>>6358265
really good art, looks nice

Sup /ic/, went radio silent for a while, but I'm back with a finished second chapter. Hope you all enjoy. Got two different links in case one doesn't work:

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102515774
https://tapas.io/series/AECAST

>>6358108
How would we organize this? Discord?

>>6358108
That would be cool, sounds like a great idea.

>>6358131
>>6358679
>>6358222
Glad to see (you)’re interested!

>>6358654
Yeah I was thinking about that. I’ve never created a server before so if someone could do it and post an invite link that would be good. If not, I’ll eventually make it.

>>6358689
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
Here

>>6358696
keep us posted on the thread, i don't have discord but i'm still interested

>>6358773
Will, do. I'll make sure that anyone can get in without a discord.

>>6358654
>>6358679
>>6358696
>>6358777
I think discord takes away the activity from home base. Is there any reason why you can’t organize it here? If you need a leader, why not use tripcodes?

>>6352776
Trying to get a "page from a weathered issue of Jump" look.

Is it cringe y/n

>>6358297
If you want to see an artist influenced by Franklin Booth, check out Bernie Wrightson.
His Frankenstein illustrations get posted a lot here, but he was mainly a comic artist:
https://libgen.lc/series.php?id=124004

>>6358812
Well we'll need to make sure it's consistent and make file sharing more consistent.

>>6358814
Wow, looks very good.

Be honest with me, is Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga a semi-parody? I recognize it has some great advice but there's a ton of shit in there I can't imagine can be seen any way other than open criticism of the medium. Like when they're breaking down shonen, they're not actually being serious?

>>6352776
Some more books. I think these should be added to the mega liinks

https://files.catbox.moe/kp9w25.rar

The name for the Anthology is /ic/onography! There is a total of 7 slots avaliable (me and a anon has 1 each already) there will be a total of 9 comics.

>>6359140
what's the barrier for entry? post work and get a y/n?

>>6359147
Dedication, we decided on a spring release. The dedication to finish it before April is what we're looking for.
The minimum page length is 20 and the theme of Gothic Sci-Fi.

>>6359179
>Minimum page length is twenty

>>6359189
You can make it 19 by doing a cover page that's part of the comic.

>>6359137
thanks for sharing, but these books are crappy. (Sorry!)

>>6359179
>gothic sci-fi
That really makes me want to draw something like The Great God Pan, or another story from that era when horror and speculative fiction overlapped a lot.
Would adapting something in public domain be ok?

>>6358265
Monotone_Ink?

>>6358265
You’re the first anon who posts a really good page in recent threads, congrats anon

>>6358265
You got this in higher res, boss?

>>6358378
cute

Opinions?

>>6359561
It's not quite finished, it's just that I don't want to finish something that I know will suck.

>>6359561
Don't draw details when you don't know them.

Example that hand's fingers are messed up. It would had been better to not draw those digit divisions as those are wrong. If your excuse is that it is foreshortening then it is not working.

It looks like the tophat guy's hair drops down from some extra dimensional space. Wearing a hat restricts hair the same way wearing a headband does.

>>6359561
The drawings are fine, the rest is level zero

1. You have to always put closures, unless it is a shojo or open panel; the bottom closure must be wider than the side closure

2. Learn how to ink, make a proper page. Always.

3. (Personal) Take a manga you like and learn exactly how the author draws the eyes

>>6359572
I don't understand
>>6359590
Believe me I want and I can do it. What happens is that I can't have good ink or brushes to finish the drawing.

>You have to always put closures, unless it is a shojo or open panel; the bottom closure must be wider than the side closure

be more specific

>>6359634
He's talking about gutters between the panels

>>6359276
Yes, it is public domain

>>6359634
>What happens is that I can't have good ink or brushes to finish the drawing
Buy a tablet, go digital

>be more specific
Pic related

>>6359634
>What happens is that I can't have good ink or brushes to finish the drawing.

My man, india ink is cheap as hell and pens last a long time

>>6359140
>>6359179
Oh neat, I may be interested for a short I have in mind.

>>6359916
my idea was to digitalize it and then finish it but idk how this dude does it

>pic related

https://strawpoll.com/polls/NMnQBleR0g6
Please vote in this poll if you're interested in the /ic/onography project. It's in regards to the reading order.

Would any of you guys be interested in making horizontal comics? Like think about the webtoon format but horizontal? Kind of like modern emakimonos?

>>6360139
Honestly seems like a painful, cumbersome way to make comics. Only reason vertical comics became such a big thing is people scrolling on phones and tablets. Horizontal will do fucky things to displaying digitally.

>>6360153
You would just have to flip the phone to landscape mode and scroll horizontally. On PC you'd just have to scroll. You really think horizontal comics would be more difficult to make than traditional pages?

>>6360167
I never said they'd be more difficult to make, but most people would find them more annoying to read. People don't like when something scrolls horizontally even a little bit, and frankly, its kind of a no-brainer idea to try, but I feel like people would have tried it a long, long time ago if they thought it would really work. Scrolling vertically feels more natural, especially on mobile, and even at that, there's plenty of people who don't "love" it.

>>6360181
>People don't like when something scrolls horizontally even a little bit
Really? I like reading my manga horizontally. The only reason I think it has never been tried is because you couldn't really print a horizontal comic. It'd have to be something made purely for digital consumption.

>>6360133
>/Ic/onography is a gothic sci-fi focused anthology created by the artists of /ic/. The issue will feature nine 20-page comics from different artist.
>the comics can feature fully colored artwork or pure black and white. The paper size will be B5, make sure the image DPI is 300 as there might be interest in possibly printing.
>NSFW concepts are allowed but not straight up pornographic imagery. The NSFW should fit with the story and not the other way around.
>NSFW concepts are allowed but not straight up pornographic imagery. The NSFW should fit with the story and not the other way around.
These are the rules so far, more will come eventually.

Give me good fonts. Something like these

>>6360265

>>6360223

>>6360312
Not what I mean by horizontally. I mean long spreads spanning what would potentially be 2+ pages in a traditional comic.

>Just now realized I decided to focus a story around baroque era classical instruments - in a medium that has no sound whatsoever
>Can't even do the long flashy guitar onomatopeias because a cello doesn't do that
This might be difficult.

>>6359058
Anon it's full-on satire. Part of the joke is that some of it is true.

>>6360736
focus on da character reactions. Draw a panel of a character playing music, then draw 3 panels of the audience wiping away tears!

characters or backgrounds first?

>>6360828
Composition.
Then, once you've determined where the objects in frame go, figure out whether the characters in frame need to look like they're actually inhabiting a world, or if an awkward / impossible angle would serve you better.

Google Forms for the /Ic/onography anthology project:
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

>>6360840
Forgot to mention in in the Forms doc but please put your username or some kind of credit on the page you’re posting so I know who drew what.

>>6359190
I was expecting half as much. Twenty is a LOT of pages.

What are the best kinds of manga to make if you dont have much of a plot or story in mind? I know people would probably prefer some kind of ongoing narrative but its honestly hard for me. So I thought I could maybe just draw shenanigans while I learn how to put a proper story together.

>>6360857
Some kind of Slice Of Life stuff

This is less of a question I'm looking for an objective answer for, and more one of opinion

What makes for a good cover?

Kinda surprised to see that this thread series is going as strong as it started. Keep up the hard work everyone.

>>6360862
Eye catching.
Look at it as a thumbnail. Is it a mess at that size?
Look at it next to other covers. Does it catch your eye in the crowd? Finally make sure it doesn't mislead about what kind of genre you are selling. You want to build trust and if those first chapter is a big disappointment you have lost the reader.

>>6360862
Anything that catches your eye and makes people want to see what's inside. The range of these things is too broad to really cover in detail, but this is why 90% of covers is just slapping a big characters face next to some kind of high contrast background.

What happened to the guy that was working on Alice?

>>6360857
something like pop team epic maybe?
if you can write something entertaining it doesn't matter much if there's no plot or concurrency

I'm starting to understand why an editor is important. I'm too autistic and cringe to be trusted to make something myself. I need a normalfag to filter my stuff for me.

>>6360952
Well anon, seeing as you have no editor, why not simply accept your cringe autism and make something truly your own? Alternatively you can always bounce things off friends you trust.

does CSP fuck up brushes when you download them? I got brushes that look nothing like what it said it does. I just want a comfortable brush presure and size curve setting but all I find are mystical answers like "its different for everyone" "you gotta experiment".

Are people in fact switching between several different brushes? Is it possible for one brush to do thin and thick lines without being some kind of super human with perfect control of pressure degree?

this is the default g pen, its physically impossible to keep it thin with the setting its already on. am I missing some kind of setting?

>>6360998
>all I find are mystical answers like "its different for everyone" "you gotta experiment".
You do have to experiment though. I don't like any brush I download as it comes, it always takes a little bit of tinkering. There's nothing "mystical" about opening the brush settings and fucking around until it feels nice to draw with.
>Are people in fact switching between several different brushes?
Yeah, duh. People do this in trad too. It's normal to switch between microns, dip pens and brushes. Same shit applies to digital.

>>6360998
Whether or not you want to or should switch between multiple brushes depends on the look you want anon. Whatever best helps you achieve that look is what you should do.

That said, I personally ignore the CSP G-pen for anything but fills. For inking I much prefer the default Mapping pen, as it has a sharper falloff and more uniform taper, which may give you the look you want. All lines in the attached pic were done with the same pen setting (20 px on A4, 350dpi) to give you an idea of the flexibility (much more than the default G-pen). If I want something with similar smoothness but the same sense of thin taper I will occasionally use the Turnip pen but I can't remember the last time I did.

Hope you find something you like anon!

>>6361009
I see, does drawing at a large resolution improve brushes like g pen? I guess I want to make it look like plain regular manga, but most of the time scanned pages are different sizes and qualities so its hard to tell what kind of brush they used to get the same effect. even the page you posted looks too "sharp" and the blacks are super vibrant for some reason, while manga somehow makes it look softer.

>>6361021
>what kind of brush they used to get the same effect
I worded this wrong. I know they're made by hand, I mean what kind of csp brush can emulate it.

>>6361021
>>6361022
This is more the nature of printing than anything else. The fuzziness happens via the absorption of ink on the page, and the softening of blacks happens through the fading and discoloration of the paper. Additional fuzziness and discoloration on both levels is heightened through the low-rez scanning that takes place. I guess you could post-process your pages if you really wanted it to look that way in digital presentation, but you wouldn't want any of that for printing because adding imperfections atop imperfections creates noise and disintegrates the final result. You would probably also want to be careful doing that during the drawing process because fuzzy edges makes filling difficult unless you do all your fills by hand.

It's worth noting a lot of web manga just lets things play out straight. If you really want that look though, post-process it rather than looking for fuzzy brushes.

>>6361036
Oh, adding to this also: it's a common practice to put a little bit of gauss blur atop pages to soften them slightly and let the screentones blend. I haven't done any of that yet because screentones make my tablet chug so I keep everything stock until export.

>>6360839
Moebius ?

>>6361009
Protip: You can zoom in/out in the multipage window to make the thumbnails bigger and fill up that empty space

>>6360862
Anything with a cool concept behind it

>>6361312
Had no idea and will definitely do that; thanks anon!

Here is an article for the anthology project

>>6361721
Man, I'm super interested but also just started a project. Might see what I can come up with though...

>>6361721
if you get more people wanting to join will you open the slots to more than 9 people?

>>6361767
Yes, we're selecting nine as a default buffer.
>>6361749
Will be interested to see what you have!

>>6361777
What are the technical details? Page size? DPI? How will the mag be disseminated?

>>6361777
>>6361887
Also, what's the joining process? Do you submit a pitch? Make something and submit the whole thing? Just announce intent and work with the mag ediors?

>>6361931
please refer to >>6360243
the anthology will be free to anyone who is interested in it. You can share it as much as you want.
>what's the joining process
please refer to >>6360840

>>6361940
>what's the joining process
>please refer to >>6360840 #
What happens when that's filled out? Do you get in contact and talk about the intended story to see if it fits and go from there?

>>6361953
we do this to pick out stories. It's preferred if you joined the Discord, as we can directly assess your story and artwork.
It's a selection process, in simple words.

Working on this for the volume 3 cover, just need to add smoke and background details + more crystals and candles.

This is a manga serialized in Jump. Don’t give up, we are all GMI.

Are there any screentone manga brushes in procreate

>>6363105
not to be a downer but there's a difference between willfully allowing mistakes for the sake of crunch and just not knowing how to draw
instead of trying to find excuses for your own shortcoming, just git gud

>>6363105
Well, this is the winner of last Tezuka's Prize

>>6363293
>consistent shapes
>clean lines
>clearly defined emotions from facial features
guaranteed this guy "knows how to draw", he's using this style as a creative choice or to save time
the embodiment of the in order to draw x you must first draw y meme
stop looking for excuses, git gud

>>6363293
it must be wildly funny

>>6358942
He is one of my inspirations, really high level rendering. It's hard trying to balance time with comics. Life is so short and there's not much time available to spare for one page with trying to git gud so I've been trying to figure how to balance time. I've realized often you have to sacrifice quality.

>>6360736
>classical instruments - in a medium that has no sound whatsoever
wat

>>6357774
Baesd

>>6363479
>>6360736
Your Lie in April

>>6363615
Great stuff. Love the style, especially how you draw women. Keep it up.

>>6360736
a lot of succesful music anime are adaptations of manga.
>nodame cantabile
>shigatsu no kimi no uso
>beck
>nana
>sakamichi no apollon

also
>kono oto tomare (fantastic manga)
>blue giant
>solanin
>ao no orchestra
>piano no mori

there are tons of manga especially about classical instruments.
they also often read like sports manga or drama series. but the fact that they're focused on music doesn't hurt them at all.

>>6363643
>>nana
I just watched this anime and recommend it, it's great shojo slice of life and has a band and music subplot.

>>6363370
Figuring out where to cut your corners is a big part of it, yes. It might be more helpful to think of it as balancing your priorities rather than sacrificing quality.
Being fast is important when it comes to work, so it's not like you shouldn't be thinking of it, but focusing too much on it when you're starting out might end up tripping you up. Speed comes from experience and good decision-making more than anything else.
I try to keep that in mind, at least, because I have a big problem with a perceived lack of time, too, and in the end it costs me more time than it saves. With comics, consistency is the single most important thing.

what size do you make your pages at? I see a lot of people drawing at fuckhuge sizes and they're zoomed out to like 15% view. Everythings just blurry when I do that.

>>6364443
Anything above 300 dpi will work for digital viewing or printing. No smaller. You can go as high as your computer can handle.

>>6364443
I draw mine on a b4 at 600dpi and export at around 1/5th of that. Draw big, print small.

>>6364443

>>6358378 here - I actually get my stuff printed and made in the end, so proper sizing is very important if you're gonna do that too. At a bare minimum, you MUST do 300 dpi, and the size of your canvas has to be the same size as the eventual final product, although you really should go much bigger, so that you can downscale easily.

>>6363105
Ginka and Gluna is written by AI whihc explains the insane pacing and other strange aspects of that shit. When you search the author, the name pop out on researchgate as a GPU cluster graphics guy. They are testing to see if they could eventually replace mangakas with prompteurs.

>>6366304
wut
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Shimpei-Watanabe-2141854935
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Shinpei-Watanabe-2163726141
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Shinpei-Watanabe-2163726379
>bunch of chemistry shit
>research on 3D holographic projections
>bunch of immunology/neroscience
>other shinpei watanabes on google include... a singer
I think you've got the wrong guy, guy. Seems more likely to me that he's simply a flawed writer, and that he simply drew that eye a little too big by mistake that one time.

>>6366304
are you sure? The author is Shinpei Watanabe

>>6366331
yeah, chemistry shit isn't the same as Indian AI prompting

>>6366335
I am thinking of the 3D projection guy, but realistically it could be any STEMshitter as any STEM related job involves a lot of IT work.

>a flawed writer

Don’t they have editors to tard wrangle them? Besides the mistakes he makes are bit off, I don’t think humans woudl make these mistakes. He drew the art himself of course the AI is used to write that crap.

>>6366627
Editors aren't a magic bullet.
>I don’t think humans woudl make these mistakes
Are you trolling? Am I being trolled? I'm going to stop responding to you just in case I'm getting trolled.

>>6359179
here are some concept sketches for the anthology thingy i think i have some ideas for plot and characters and stuff i need to brainstorm some baddie designs i just went with some generic grunty men.

>>6360857
Kochikame, Shin-chan

>>6360096
ahhhh akihito yoshitomi. i like

Good free fonts for dialog and where to get them?

>>6361021

You could put a low opacity paper texture over your pages to give it a more hand drawn look.

>>6367317
https://blambot.com/collections/dialogue-fonts
They have good information on lettering too:
https://blambot.com/pages/lettering-tips

>>6367491
Thx. I did know about that site but it is the only source I know of. Never did look through them all. In the past I have grabbed 2 free fonts from there but I decided to grab another 18 free.

They really need a search function by price.

Here's the list of free fonts I found there if anyone is interested:

Smack Attack
Home Planet
Evil Genius
Dwarf Spirits
Digital Strip
Digital Strip 2
Crime Fighter
Web Letterer
Red State Blue State
Mumble Grumble
Letter-o-matic
Vengeful Gods
You Murderer
Wishful Thinker
Sound Check
DecoFex
Dracufrankenwolf
Lowrider
Nightwatcher
Flunkies

>>6356409
Page 8 (Page 9 is a full black to close the Act)

Gonna stop Here, I'll finish the dialogues then work on something serious to propose to a publisher

>>6352776
>2000AD Script Book
Looks like my link finally taken down; sorry for the inconvenience.

>>6356425
>>6356746
damn, u just got ur first fanart
congrats anon

>>6367843
The bottom drawing is very nice.

>>6368805
thanks, it needed a strong contrast for the concluding panel

>>6367843
It's them

>>6368913
That's the twist

>>6357774
Everyone here believes their comic will be the next big thing, so you have some serious competition. Best of luck bubbo.

>>6369026
this except mine really will be the next big thing

>>6368510
It actually makes me want to go back and finish it instead of shelving it, but I really do want it to look nicer than what I'm capable of drawing.

anyone else get precum when they write romance ?

>>6369263
No. Only when I draw hentai.

Started making a comic recently, first chapter 53 pages, done with the roughs and currently inking pg13

>>6371568
Looks very professional anon.
I'm interested.

Does anybody has been copying manga pages? I finally did it yesterday, and that with the comentaries of sorachi on the jump book help me a lot to understand that these type of panel(the 5th one) gives a good sence of open space

What does this need to seem more traditional. I think i should cut down on the noise, and there's something still stiff about the line art

There's anything like the fude pen in csp?

>>6372082
screentone emulation, denoise, contrast blowout to simulate scan, added sharp bubbles for contrast.
Feel like its almost there

>>6360265
>>6360289
>>6367546
>>6367491
>>6367317


I see people list that one image of the fonts, but no link to the fonts mentioned, which makes it a bit tricky. As for blamnbot fonts thanks for making that list of their free to use ones, because their site doesn't have it as a tag. I did stumble on a resource I thought might help you guys with fonts, because it has a couple of google drives of fonts, that said you'll need to do your own research to see what the licenses or usage are for those on your own...

https://quicksandscans.wordpress.com/resources/

>>6372126
With the amount of filters, and tones, and noise, and bullshit you're running this through, desperately trying to make this look traditional, it might have been easier and less time consuming to have just actually made it traditionally.

>>6372126
You don't want that many highlights in the environment since it distracts the viewer. Try taking the highlighted character and combine her with the previous more mat background and see what that looks like.

You know. I'll just show you what I mean. Shouldn't take more than 1 min.

>>6372132
thx for link. Will have to check it out.

>>6372347
>>6372433
but why did you both reply without answering my question

>>6372082
>everything covered in large digital textures
>why doesn't this look like traditional art?
gee I don't know

>>6372126
what i can suggest is focusing a bit more on the lineart.
Pretend you actually have to use limited screentones that won't allow for a complex shading.
Do the shading of the body and the building with rough lines and add simple screentones, here and there.
Give up the paper texture too.
The simpler , the better.
Also you can have certain shadows fully inked in black.

I am not saying that it does not look good. I really like it. But since you said you want to go for a traditional look, these are some of the advices i can give you .

>>6373202
>>6372433
I dont have my tablet connected to my PC
But i cropped the dark lines from the layer and converted them to vectors , then changed the lineshape a bit to make it look a bit more rough. Took the greys and added some simple screentones.
I know it looks bad but this is what i meant with my previous posting.
I bet you can do it alot better than me since you have the file with the layers already.

I'm >>6372126

To >>6373209
I'm not the original artist. I just took the two images here and overlayed them.

To >>6372910
>but why did you both reply without answering my question
Because I replied to give you an advice about you image.
I don't think there are any filters you can add that makes it look not digital. You best bet is to design a good brush. Some pros take photos of their paint plashes and turn those into digital brushes.

This shit takes forever
Is this just a new artist thing - new to sequential art, not to art in general - or is it always like this unless you kill yourself like a mangaka

>>6373462
Some people actually like drawing comic pages. You get use to it honestly.

>>6373462
Now you understand why manga artists who have to deliver an absurd amount of pages have developed styles they all agree on that simplify the process.

If you compare it to USA indi comic creators they can take years to make a single comic book.

>>6373462
It does take forever. You can speed things up with experience, but at the end of the day you're still drawing a lot of little drawings and that inevitably takes time.

>>6373209
that looks horrible

>>6373368
no I think that you can get a more or less traditional effect with a little effort. I've seen others do it and i'm pretty close. I wish more people here knew what they were talking about though :/

>>6373684
Then why don't you do the smart thing then and post the images you want to emulate. I'm sure it's just you who think they look traditional while more experienced artists can easily pick up that those are digital.

>>6353612
I agree with what's been said already, but I really like your linework and the light:dark ratio. It's interesting to look at, and that alone is enough to make me want to see more

>>6373684
Whats so fucking hard to understand?

>wish people here knew what they were talking about

I don’t know what sort of solution you want for your “traditional” look at this point but no one here can give you the perfect path you’re looking for.
You didn’t even try to redo the drawing with the advice some people gave to you here.
You want us to draw it for you while you jerk off to your humongous asses?

Come back when you’re serious about this instead of complaining.

>>6373694
>whats so hard to understand
>i dont know what you want
>paragraph of whining

so why even respond if you're not qualified. yeah let me redo the drawing with the midwit advice of people who are trying to give me tips on composition instead of what im asking about.

>>6373705
>get angry at people for giving drawing advice on /ic
>gets angry at people for not addressing all the points in his posts
I think the only midwit here is you.

>>6373720
let me illustrate since words seem to be hard for you

>>6373723
Sure Dunning Kruger

If only we hadn't already seen your level of art knowledge with those images you posted you might had been more easily able to fake it.

>>6373739
so pyw then and ill post something that isnt a shat out panel used for experimental rendering

>>6373741
I rather not have my work associated with your shit posting

>>6373744
yeah thats what i thought nigger. thanks for wasting my time lol

>>6373746
>wasting my time
right back at you

>>6373750
:) i draw better than you

>>6373753
>:) i draw better than you
In your imagination, literally.

>>6373757
:)
all the words in the world wont change that.
type away. bye bye

>>6373762
bye

Finished this self indulgent short comic. I will kiss him and nobody can stop me

>>6373705
>>6373723
The fact that you are still posting and not going back to drawing so you can improve proves my point. You are not here to learn , you are here to nitpick every advice you get and fight people.

There’s no shortcut to making it look traditional while also keeping the artwork unchanged. It’s the way you drew it that fucks it up, the watery-like lines, the fucked up looking screentones and that shading that just makes it uncanny to begin with.

You just don’t want to work hard on it again because you are lazy.

A mature person would either ignore and not reply or take the advice and start drawing again.

You probably wanted some (you)s so you can shill for a bit to some virgin fags that instantly got a boner from those unrealistic proportions.

Leave the board , come back when you have changed the artwork and have a different mindset.

>>6373767
very nice. Do you have any socials?

>>6373692
I already made up a fix, actually.
I'll be sidetracked on this comic in specific, but I'll make sure to finish it sooner than later!

>>6373767
>>6373814
same anon.
This gave me a really warm feeling. This is really good. Like really REALLY good.
btw, what font did you use in page 3?

>>6373767
You did a good job replicating the line style, it's really close. There are some bits where the lettering could be improved, such as the "For you, whatever you want!" bubble. Apart from that, I'm struggling to find anything to nitpick. Very well done, look forward to more of your stuff.

>>6373814
>>6373823
Thank you very much! I used picrel chosen from the ones that come with CSP.
Also I was shameless enough to make the comic but not enough to attach my name to it lol sorry
>>6373847
Thanks! I kinda rushed it at the end just cuz I had it sitting around for a long time and wanted to get it out of the way, but I kinda regret not doing the bubbles how I did them at the start. Oh well, onto other things

>>6373767
Excellent anon, a real cut above. This should be the new standard to strive for on this thread.

>>6356425
damn this is good

>>6356219
I'm not a writer but I imagine you would start by laying out the main plot points of the story and working a backwards a to place characters in situations that would lead them up to that point. I imagine it would take a lot of tweaking but its like a puzzle. Right? I'm probably wrong.

How strict is Japanese copyright in-regards to characters clearly inspired from somewhere while not being a satirical parody? I know Japan doesn't care about parodies, but in this case my character is serious.

There is a very niche character (who uses a real world name) from a series (it's from a Nintendo franchise which has me worried) whose namesake, family origins, and namesake I want to pay homage to, but to be different enough to clearly say that the person isn't the Nintendo character. Namesake especially I plan on changing the kanji so that it's pronounced differently.

>>6373941
That's what I do, even shown some publishers the rough outline of where my series is going and that's partially why I've been having better luck than your average beginner's. Your average manga isn't prepared for at all, so yours being pre-planned makes a big difference.

>>6373955
There is no fair use at all in japanese law. If it's too close then if they feel like it they can sue you. The only reason fan created parodies get by is because 1. they can't take EVERYONE to court and 2. it would do more harm than good.
If you're talking about, for example, putting Blooperman, the superhero alter-ego of Dumb Kent in your story, you should be fine. Just keep in mind that if you're spinning it as serious then it reads less like homage more like simply ripping them off, no matter how obvious you make your intention.

>>6373968
Japanese law catch foreigners off guard sometimes. I looked it op once. Here are a few of the things that are illegal in Japan I recall:
Cutting line in a queue.
Accepting a fight
Giving wrong direction to a delivery person
Dumpster diving (In theory can give 10 + 3 years prison. Don't know if they overlap)
Spitting on the street
etc

>>6373968
>There is no fair use at all in japanese law. If it's too close then if they feel like it they can sue you.
And this is Nintendo we're talking about, even if the character hasn't been one they used in decades. My plan was to give the character a similar sounding name, and even her father sharing an equivalent name. (Albeit as a nickname) She has a clearly different family life and a clearly different design, (mostly due to my artstyle and age) but would be similar in personality.
>Just keep in mind that if you're spinning it as serious then it reads less like homage more like simply ripping them off, no matter how obvious you make your intention.
I planned on taking a one-liner about their family member dying when they were young and turn it into a serious part of their character. I wish I could give an example.

>>6373985
I'll try to paraphrase something I already have planned. Posting in a forum with pornography to the current publishers looking into my stuff lol. Changing the names, of course.
"I'm Cynthia, and this is my husband, Mr. Stone. His real name's Bob, he just got nicknamed Mr. Stone because he always throws rocks at whoever walks in our lawn."

>>6373980
Seems reasonable.

finally starting this.

>>6373917
The artist could constantly refer to thousands pages worth of manga to reference off of because the style is near one to one with One Outs (which also happens to be where the guy in the comic is from).
Not to say the anon is bad for doing this, but it should explain why it looks so polished.

>>6374168
You didn't have to call me out like that! It doesn't look polished because I had pages to reference from, but I will say I'm more used to drawing more complex illustrations so b&w line drawings are easier for me. Another thing is it's the same simple bg over and over and two characters just standing and talking so it's simple to do, but if it involved more complex backgrounds and designs or a lot of action, it would look much worse with my skill level

>>6374177
I didn’t mean for it to come off negative. The paneling is almost the exact same way One Outs would approach it. So I assumed you mostly used the manga for that. The art is less stiff than the manga, which is the only big difference.

>>6374182
aah well when it comes to the panels I drew the comic first in this notebook so I used the panels given to me. But it's undoubtedly a fan comic and intentionally taking style inspiration, I'm just a bit embarrassed about it being known that it's a fan comic lol

I'm giving up on learning Japanese, bros. It just doesn't look like it's going to happen...

Is it possible to make a living with comics in America?

>>6374292
nope not a single soul has ever done that. you ask the impossible.

>>6374295
you joke, but it feels that way

https://brianchurilla.tumblr.com/post/121294649150/so-you-want-to-be-a-comic-book-artist-heres
https://www.pipelinecomics.com/seriously-dont-be-a-comic-book-artist-just-dont/

One of the jokes I'm using is the character thinking about the lyrics of "Stan" after a sad moment

>>6373767
how do you do that blurry ink?

>>6374292
You may find success in Latin America. You better be extremely creative to find success in Japan as a foreigner anyhow.

>>6374333
After the lines and grey tones I duplicated the layer with everything on it, added a slight motion motion blur horizontally to the duplicated layer, then lowered the opacity of that layer to idk 20-30%. Then I added a noise layer on top. I wasn't going for any kind of realistic print feel, I just felt like my art looked kinda meh and bland on it's own so I wanted to add shit to distract from it lol

>>6373997
I over thought this, her character is clearly different. I just wish I knew a serious example that had a character clearly referenced off of an established IP in a serious manner. I know Rurouni Kenshin 1 for 1 took designs off the X-Men but those are American.

>>6352776
use this as the next image please.

>>6373767
looks just like one outs. is this from a page in the manga or did you just successfully mimic the style?

looks great either way.

>>6375301
I was intentionally drawing while keeping one outs' style in mind. There's a lot more line variation in one outs that I didn't even attempt because I'm not good at that. She's not a canon character, I just fantasize about an AU where she's part of the story

I looked to one outs trying to capture Toua's likeness and see how the manga handles gradients and contrast and stuff like that, but since I was forced to use the panels in the notebook, the compositions I chose were off the cuff trying to follow the ideas I had in mind. That's all! And thanks!

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