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I need a portfolio with multiple drawings.
Don't give me the "don't go to art school" stuff, I already know.
Is this level satisfactory to get in? What do you recommend I submit?

>> No.6296555

>>6296483
>What do you recommend I submit?

futa

>> No.6296559

>>6296483
if you think you are going to go to an art school and they are going to teach you how to draw let me tell you that you have no idea what you are getting into, art schools are not interested in teaching you how to draw, that is why they ask for a minimum level of ability to enter, if you do not know what to do with your life the best you can do is learn a trade like plumber or electrician that are (in most countries) well paid

>> No.6296563

>>6296559
Well the Youtube videos from the students show some amazing art, better than the art I see here honestly.

>> No.6296588

>>6296483
you suck ass. if you want to study art where is the passion and devotion to practice before?
>>6296563
cherrypicking students that are already good before. you are biased. you don't know the chance that someone on is could already graduated form there or anyother art school that you claim to have bad art. did you look at every poster here as throughly as you did the students?

>> No.6296591

>>6296588
>someone on is
on ic

>> No.6296594

>>6296483
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=accepted+fine+art+portfolio

>> No.6296599

>>6296483
Go for it and post result here. I am curious.

>> No.6296650
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6296650

>>6296588
>you suck ass. if you want to study art where is the passion and devotion to practice before?
I finished Drawabox, Hogarth, Hampton, Marvel Way to Draw, Space Drawing and have been reading light novels to develop my imagination. My devotion is wholly towards art. I'm trying to get in, help me out here. Tell me what I can do and shouldn't do to present myself in the best way possible.
Here is a portrait I did. I think this 30 min portrait is a bit too weak for the art school. If I tried 10 times maybe I could get a decent one, but it's not up to par yet. Maybe I should stick with animals or do abstract stuff?
>cherrypicking students that are already good before. you are biased. you don't know the chance that someone on is could already graduated form there or anyother art school that you claim to have bad art. did you look at every poster here as throughly as you did the students?
Still looking, looks pretty good so far. Like pro level at the first year, better than anything I've seen here. If I saw the first years in the power level threads I would be rating them pro already.
>>6296594
Thanks. Will check out.

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6296677

>>6296650

>> No.6296681

>>6296677
Local anttention whore >>6296548

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>fine arts
HAHAHAHAHAH YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW PROPORTIONS AFTER 4 YEARS OF DRAWING
KILL YOURSELF ALREADY ESDEATHTARD

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6296695

>>6296483
pic related is a professor of drawing at one of the world's most prestigious art schools, she's made millions selling her art, if you feel confident you can reach anything even approaching this level of work then i'd say go for it, judging by your drawing i'd say you're very nearly there already

>> No.6296704

>>6296695
you need a special kind of cunt personality to reach that far in the ladder op is not like that

>> No.6296716

>>6296483
>>6296650
instead of studying photos, get some art books and fundamental books and learn the basis first - practice than study that practice - then after that consider if you want art school, give it a year before you do. Art is a process, a long one

>> No.6296717

>>6296483
Don't waste your time. Attend life drawing sessions while you do something else. If you want to be a professional artist you should be drawing on your own as much as possible. Art school isn't going to help. You do not want to become a 28 year old unemployable guy like me.

>> No.6296724

>>6296717
Are you samefagging? Because he is 28 and unemployed ya cunt.

>> No.6296731

>>6296704
i'm sure if op puts his mind to it he can be a cunt with the best of them, never give up your dreams of being a massive cunt, is what i'd tell anyone

>> No.6296737

>>6296483
from my experience art schools are not only looking for a basic drawing ability but also a sort of thematically coherent portfolio.
also quality trumps quantity. try creating more polished works that you put more time into, and weeding out more superficial stuff in favor of a coherent theme that you artistically explore that weaves itself through your entire portfolio.
from what i've seen different art media are also appreciated, so it might be good to aim for a selected combo of acrylic/gouache/watercolor/photography/digital painting/etc.

>> No.6296738

>>6296483
>Is this level satisfactory to get in? What do you recommend I submit?
Those two questions are impossible to answer without knowing where you're applying. Every school looks for something different, and your best bet is seeing the most recent accepted portfolios and compare.
>>6296559
>trade like plumber or electrician that are (in most countries) well paid
lol

>> No.6296746

>>6296738
>lol
nta but you probably live in a shit country if you think trades are not well-paid. I pull in 120k base after 5 years working in hvac. Imagine getting another trade qualification in electrician or millwright. You can pull another 100k because dual or triple ticket journeymen are just that in demand. faggot.

>> No.6297395

>>6296650
>I think this 30 min portrait is a bit too weak for the art school. If I tried 10 times maybe I could get a decent one, but it's not up to par yet.
Even after a few years of drawing, it still takes me around 2h to get an accurate portrait block-in. This isn't uncommon if you look at other pro artists, in that realm.

Essentially, you will never get there in 30min. Pick a simple Bargue plate, copy in on A4, spend 10h on it. Rinse & repeat, and you'll get there.

>>6296483
If I wanted to evaluate a potential student, for fine-art, I'd want to see a few different things, likely in this order

- how accurate are them/are they willing to be?
- can they draw things from imagination?
- do they understand composition?
- can they handle texture?
- can they handle color?
- what kind of proficiency they have in different mediums?

Accuracy means that your eyes are developed. If your eyes are developed, it'll make it easier for you to assimilate other aspects.

Another aspect I would really care about would be, what do you have to express. Having great technical skills is fantastic, but if you have nothing special to say, you'll be competing with dozens of fine-artists who do portraits & teach students.

But I wouldn't expect it from a potential student. However, I would inform them that they really need to spend time to develop it. It's a slow process, it comes over the years, as you grow.

>> No.6297412

>>6296746
he's talking good about art schools, he's either trolling or a complete retard.

>> No.6297418

>>6297395
> just spend ten hours
pyw

>> No.6297473

>>6297418
Why? What's the thinking behind this?

>> No.6297479
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6297479

>>6297395
Thanks for the input anon.
I've been doing some research, and apparently portraits of celebrities is a big nono.
Most accepted portfolios contain color, and aren't done in pencil. As you say they want to see you using a variety of mediums but what alternatives are there to basic pencil stuff? I don't have a tablet.
I have a couple of creative ideas. Admittedly, I am lacking in fundamentals like composition and color, but that's not the point. The point is that I'm going to have to pass no matter what the circumstances are. So I will purchase some paint. I heard a quote, "it takes 10000 hours to learn to draw, but 1 hour to learn to paint." Hopefully this is true.

>> No.6297481

We need a tier ranking of insufferable begs.

>> No.6297541
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6297541

>>6297479
You need to study perspective and how the parallel features of an object merge into a vanishing point sitting on a horizon line.

With the current examples, you definitely will not get in to a decent art school.

Also, don't listen to the people here denigrating the value of art schools.

I have a BFA and MFA in Fine Arts.
I learned like close to nothing from /ic/, and most of what I know now are from schooling or from self-training and self-learning that I learned while being an art student. They teach you how to learn and train effectively with a critical mind. They teach you how to give critiques and to analyze works of art, including paintings.

Conceptual art isn't the only thing that they teach you there. There are a myriad of classes, including anatomy and color theory, and it's all up to you how you choose your classes in your years as a junior and a senior.

If it's a university, there is a good chance that they have an introductory class for medical illustration that you could take to supplement your studies in anatomy (since that's the only thing that you guys talk about here).

The best that /ic/ produces is like cartoon porn and furry porn artist wannabes.

If you do get into a good art school, you will be taught not only how to make art that is technically good but also conceptually in terms of the ideas and content - your art will be relevant to the time that we are living in, rather than being in a nostalgic bubble about a past form of art (realism and academicism) that has very limited scope in terms of what it can offer, as most people on /ic/ do.

You will learn that style and visual language, voice ,and vision of an artist are the most important things, and that includes the ability to stylize or abstract the figure to allow more room for personal expression and self exploration. Don't be fooled by people here who will look at an abstracted (different from pure abstraction) or semi-abstract figurative work and say "muh style."

>> No.6297545

>>6297541
lol stop responding to bait.

>> No.6297549
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6297549

>>6297541
Thanks anon I agree with you, art school completely mogs everyone on /ic/. I think /ic/ is a collective of people who were rejected from art school and are just jealous.
Regarding the ref, the ref actually looked like that. I have studied Drawabox and Space Drawing so I'm not entirely new to perspective.
The point of this thread isn't to criticize me and tell me to practice this and that, the point is to get me in with my current skillset. By presenting me in the best way possible. Easy projects to show off my skills, etc. by the deadline. Do you have any suggestions? I am thinking of following painting tutorials step by step then making those submissions but I've never painted before. Copying photos seems to be looked down on, so my accuracy doesn't really seem to matter in the portfolio stage. It seems like I just have to be creative with multiple mediums.

>> No.6297556

>6296746
>nta but you probably live in a shit country if you think trades are not well-paid. I pull in 120k base after 5 years working in hvac.
The majority of the world is outside of the United States, you utter chimp. I'm not even going to get into whether someone with no predisposition for manual labor should get into blue collar jobs because it would go over your head.
>6297412
You have to be the best example of D-K on /ic/ at the moment. Zero reading comprehension and a sense of superior intellect.

>> No.6297557

>>6297549
the reason why the photo has alignment of parallel features in near parallel is because the photo was taken with a long zoom, rather than a typical 50 mm lens that is closest to the way people see.

Even then, you will find that the "parallel" features are not parallel but they do merge, albeit at more subtle angle.

I think that you should sign up for a painting class or workshop or a 1:1 mentoring so that you can learn painting quickly. Or, I recommend Art Prof for tutorials on painting.

>> No.6297570

Ive been to artschool.
What they want to see is loads of work and you having tried several things.

>> No.6297578

>>6297570
You can for example draw/paint the tiger
-freehand trying to be accurate
-freehand but expressive
-with a grid or projector
-with charcoal, chall, pencil, ink, acrylics, oils
-accurate colours
-colors you felt like using
-from imagination

>> No.6297713

>>6297479
Portrait of celeb could work, but you'd have to be more original than the typical redditer, which unfortunately is often more skilled than you here!

I agree with the other anon, mentoring is likely the best approach at this point. And hard work, everyday.

I think you may underestimate the difficulty to get there though

>> No.6297722

>>6297556
>Zero reading comprehension and a sense of superior intellect.
projecting a little bit aren't we? how old are you? kek

>> No.6297740
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6297740

>>6296483
take an animation course while drawing on the side
going for fine arts wont give a boost
it will simply burn a hole in your pocket while failur who couldn't make it in the industry themselves larp as professors and give you bad advice
the only good thing to come out of it will be making connections with your peers and becoming part of a sort of whisper network between artists

>> No.6297789
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6297789

>>6296483
Hey anon, I’m a student who is currently studying to be a professor in fine arts.

You don’t have to apply for an art school to major in art. Just apply at your local university/ community college and see if they offer an art program. They don’t require you to submit portfolios from what I known and you won’t be wasting soo much money/time on a shit art school.

your pic related is very /beg/ though. That’s ok, essentially you’ll have to start off with your /beg/ courses before you can even do advance courses. In advance courses you have to make a drawing a day, and you only got 3 hrs to do it, advance paintings even worse, you have to finish a while painting in just that 3 hrs. However in your /beg/ courses they’ll teach you about the basics of how to draw and how to use your shades, your values, your shapes, yes loomis is very real in those courses, all that stuff. And they’ll usually give you a week to finish your project.

In order to outperform your peers or just get better overall, I personally recommend to keep drawing more than what you’re being assigned because in order to make it as an “artist” out here you really gotta sell yourself and literally be 100% about being an artist. It’s constant work but hey that’s what you signed up for.

How much money do you got? Do you have a part time/ full time job? Because holy shit, art supplies aren’t cheep. Art majors spend the most money on supplies more than any other major in college. For some classes they recommend you to have a certain amount of tools on you for the next class because it’s for a grade. Yea, a fucking grade. The first semester I had to spend almost $200 on a drawing class and another $200 on a painting class. At the beginning of the semester mind you. I hope you live very close to a hobby lobby or Michaels because you’ll be visiting every other week for more supplies that can range from $20-$150 depending on what you need to do for the assignments.

>> No.6298013

>>6296483
Bump

>> No.6298041

>>6297541
>>6297549
aweh look at you guys sucking each other dicks how sweet it must be to have another biased person not opposed to your opinions and beliefs!
you cant shit on /ic while using /ic you are no better than the furry fags you criticised with your everlasting inflatable ego
you can do all of that by self study /ic never claimed to guid you it gives you a sticky, you take it and fuck off. if you truly think /ic a random internet page on fucking 4chan will help then im sorry you are so fucking stupid despite having a degree kek

>> No.6298047

>>6298041
this whole thread is samefag. Notice how nobody is crabbing him yet.

>> No.6298052

>>6296483
You sure you wanna do fine arts?
Just from this thread itself its like you dont know what youre getting into
Youre gonna end up being another crab saying art school is useless

>> No.6298083

>>6296704
>op is not like that
hmmmm

>> No.6298136

>>6297789
Thanks anon but I don't really know what you mean. I'm applying for an art school at my local university. It's ranked top 10 best art schools in the world and I want to get in. I want to go to a prestigious university/art school, I'm not going to go to some random shitty university with shit education and reputation.
>>6298041
I've been on /ic/ for almost 2 years. I've seen everyone's work. The art school students totally mog /ic/. Sorry you couldn't get in.
>>6298052
I know I'll be forced to study art history and other boring stuff but I still think it's worth it. Just working on my portfolio has shown a big improvement in my work and motivation. I'm literally on the way to producing 9 masterpieces and have the drafts ready. I'm using techniques I've never used before. The mentality of an art student is different from someone self-taught. I'm already producing mid int pieces which I will not show because I don't want to dox myself just in case the judge lurks here.

>> No.6298144

>>6298136
Everyone can smell your crapped briefs a mile away esdeathtard
3 years of drawing and you still fail hard at basic anatomy lmao

>> No.6298147
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6298147

>>6298144
Lmao try harder.

>> No.6298148

>>6298136
Good luck to you then, if you know what you want and you have a good and proper educational environment to foster it then youre set. Its what most of /ic/ is missing.

>> No.6298155
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6298155

>>6296483
Hey, I went to art school many years ago it helped evolve my style, this is my stuff now after all this time (pic related). If you put the hours and $$$$$ you could becone as good as me.

Good luck

>> No.6298158

>>6298155
Lmao anon that guy is a troll. I have the exact same eraser on my table right now for some reason, it's garbage for drawing. It leaves crumbs everywhere unlike a proper kneaded eraser.

>> No.6298163

A lot of YES man retards ITT.
>>6297789
Lol
>>6298155
Lmao
>>6296483
>>6296650
>>6296695
>>6297479
>>6297541
XD XD XD

>> No.6298166

>>6298155
>as good as me
>3 megusta
Hearty keks

>> No.6298171
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6298171

>>6298166
Hey! That is my newest instagram I deleted the old one. You can still find my old work in the internet (pic related). I did go to art school (Bucknell) and I can tell you that all that $$$$$$ and years of painting are evident in my current art, I mean how can't you see it?

>> No.6298178

>>6298171
You didn't have sex with the instructor. They would've offered you private 1 on 1 lessons to improve. After all, connections matter in the industry alot more than your drawing skills.

>> No.6298180

>>6298171
>did a google search
Extremely sad. You got scammed hard.

>> No.6298184

>>6298171
>3 likes
>0 notes
>draw worse than an 8 year old
>in his 40s
>>6297989
What a delusional hot air balloon.

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6298185

>>6298171
I don't deny that. However my art skills and drawing knowledge are waay superior than someone only studying with the books you share here and the video tutorials on the internet, so money and years well spent... right?

>> No.6298187

>>6298184
Anon before Virgil Abloh who is an archtectural designer that founded Off-White clothing brand where he later died of cancer, made a speech about a shitty tin can where if it was just lying on some stinky alleyway it's considered not art but the moment you put the the tin can as a centerpiece in a nice clean aesthetic musuem then it becomes art. It's really just a matter of where that piece of shit is "contexually" placed. In this case the faggot should make efforts to tidy up his place. The likes are bound to roll in. This is one of the many secrets of the art world.

>> No.6298191

>>6298185
>>6298187
If I were you I would kms.

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6298192

>>6298180
What do you mean, I was told I am extremely original. I didn't ever bother with Loomis and other academicist crap and I humbly think my art has more vitality and soul due to that. I dont mind taking pictures with my paintings as I am proud of me and my work. The fact I dont have $$$$ and have to work doing other jobs doesnt mean that the money and time of my youth was not well spent

>> No.6298196

>>6298192
Oh sorry I thought you were a troll >>6298158
Your art is actually pretty aesthetic. I like it. >>6298155 was a bad example. You really should change erasers.

>> No.6298234

>>6298136
Anon prof here

That’s cool, I was just setting you up on what to expect when you’re in. I for one, wanted to know a lot of things before I even took my first art class.

In my experience I got into a university that well ranked in my state as a great school and it happens to have an art program within it.

Also seriously save a lot of money on supplies that shit ain’t cheep

>> No.6298268

>>6296483
Draw. Flip the canvas. Let it rest. Watch it again. If you want to gouge your eyes out then you're on the right path. You can do gesture, copy, study, as long as you draw. Keep at it for some years.
The art school I went to was terrible and I wouldn't recommand it to anyone, but I still had a lot of fun and experiences so it was nice. Also being in a place full of artists, even beginners is great to focus on it everyday. But mostly it gave me fuel to prove I wasn't just a tourist.
Art school tend to be filled with people with no education or very little, but most have a big ego, so frictions are common since most students like differents stuff and look down on the other mediums. If you're willing to draw everyday and immerse yourself in it an art school is great, but it won't make you good, only you can.

>> No.6298293

>>6296650
Are you using an eraser?

>> No.6298299

>>6296650
>4 years of no improvement in anatomy
>crabbed out of /beg/
>makes own thread about hopes and dreams
we already know where this is going.

>> No.6298440

>>6298299
Don't crush other people's dreams. After all we all gonna make it :)

>> No.6298441

>>6296483
>Don't give me the "don't go to art school" stuff, I already know.
then why are you wasting your time and money?

>> No.6298444

>>6296650
>I finished Drawabox, Hogarth, Hampton, Marvel Way to Draw, Space Drawing and have been reading light novels to develop my imagination.
>that drawing
anon, I mean this in the nicest way possible, you're very much so the definition of "NGMI". That's about as bad as my art was during my intro to art course in highschool with virtually no formal training. I highly doubt you actually "finished" any of the things you claim you did.

>> No.6298456

>>6298444
I think you are being too rude to the boy. After all look how it work out for the k-dash painter above after he went to art school.

We all GMI :)

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6298460

>>6298444
I highly doubt that you got a bullseye on proportions without Loomis or Huston. But hey, feel free to pyw (now and then).

>> No.6298464

>>6296746
>nta but you probably live in a shit country if you think trades are not well-paid.
Most countries are shit.

>> No.6298466

>>6298460
What about the soul and emotions of the artworks? Arent those more important that a mere display of technique?

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6298479

>>6298466
Yeah, I've already prepared 3 drafts for the portfolio (spent all day drawing yesterday) and they have lots of soul and technique. All 3 are my best pieces yet, incorporate techniques I've never used before and for contrast they are 50x better than this piece. Once I'm done with the idea all I need is to clean it up and render it with different mediums

>> No.6298484

>>6298479
ohhhh, it's you! the attention whore that's turbo shit but thinks he's amazing.

>> No.6298487
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6298487

>>6298479

>> No.6298489

>>6298460
>bullseye on proportions
you don't have a bullseye on proportions.

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6298500

>>6298484
>switches to crab mode
Pathetic. I kept pushing through even after getting carpal tunnel, something that would make you give up or kill yourself. I'm more gmi than you ever will be.
>>6298489
Feel free to show me your attempt without tracing, then. Hey it's only going to take 30 mins of your time and will be good practice. What's there to lose?

>> No.6298501

>>6298500
you're symbol drawing.

>> No.6298503

Kinda wanting to do an mfa from a stem bachelors now. Guessing I'll need to build up a portfolio for ten years and save money. Comfy dream tho.

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6298513

>>6298501
>yOuRe SyMbOl DrAwInG
Kek you crabs are like a one trick parrot. Once I get all the proportions right you just scream symbol drawing like it means anything without ever posting work.

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6298516

>>6298513
I'm trying to help you realize what you're doing wrong. you're drawing what you think a nose looks like, what you think a mouth looks like, not what the nose or mouth you're trying to draw actually look like.

your proportions are also off, mr. bullseye.

>> No.6298519

>>6298516
Lmao you are peak retarded. Either you did it on purpose or moved the whole head upwards to make it all misalign by making the right eye align, when that's the only one that's actually misaligned. I can't believe you actually wasted your time doing this instead of posting work showing what isn't "symbol drawing".

>> No.6298524

>>6298519
>or moved the whole head upwards
I took the exact picture you posted. even if you move your drawn head down, everything is still misaligned or shaped wrong.
>instead of posting work showing what isn't "symbol drawing".
https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/drawing/drawing-basics-drawing-without-symbols-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain/

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6298526

>>6298524
>https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/drawing/drawing-basics-drawing-without-symbols-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain/
LMAO

>> No.6298527

>>6298526
XDDDDDDDDD

>> No.6298528

>>6298526
considering this is after 1 5 day class? in 5 days they managed to get to about the same level you're currently at.

>> No.6298532

>>6298519
Not him; I really hope you're baiting, for your own sake. If you're not, I strongly encourage you to compare what you're producing to what other established artists are doing.

Everything you're posting is beginner level. In "Drawing on the right side of the brain", the author compare drawings of her students before/after having been through the course.

Your portraits are at the "before" level. I'm no kidding, just look it up.

The problem with your attitude is that, either you're baiting, or you're likely very stubborn; either way, debating further will likely be of little use

>> No.6298534
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>>6298527
>>6298528
You can't even define what symbol drawing is. You can't even pyw. So apparently I have to go jogging every morning to stop this "symbol drawing" thing, huh? Fatso.

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>>6298532
>or you're likely very stubborn
I'm 90% sure he's just so delusional and narcissistic that he thinks he's as an int/pro level.

>> No.6298537

>>6298536
I hope he is just baiting.

>> No.6298539

>>6298534
>You can't even define what symbol drawing is
>>6298516
>you're drawing what you think a nose looks like, what you think a mouth looks like, not what the nose or mouth you're trying to draw actually look like.

You aren't drawing what you're seeing, you're drawing what you think things are supposed to look like. Symbols.

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>>6298532
>he says all this with a straight face
Lmao you need to get your eyes checked. These are the true alignments, completely disingenuous crab. Consider investing in a rope.

>> No.6298542

>>6298540
>These are the true alignments
umm... anon those are uhh... those are still off. You're either chris-chan tier delusional or just playing the long game troll.

>> No.6298543

>>6296483
How do you guys still find the motivation to even start when AI does better and everyone can just download it on their pc for free?

>> No.6298544

>>6298543
op should unironically start looking into ai programs if he wants to "make it".

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6298547

>>6298539
So is symbol drawing black and white or a spectrum?
>>6298542
>still off
So you admit that you didn't notice the crab posted the wrong alignments until I pointed it out. You are ngmi, sorry. Keep playing the "concerned crab" surely you will convince someone one day.

>> No.6298549

>>6298547
so you admit that your "bullseye" proportions are off? You'll never improve if you put yourself on a pedestal and pretend your shit doesn't stink.

>> No.6298550

>>6298549
>changing the goal post
I said that >>6298460 was a bullseye proportion you disingenuous piece of shit. Fatso how much weight did you drop until you stopped symbol drawing? Retard crab.

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6298551

It only took you 4 years to realize you need art school? Yeah sure go ahead. You are never too old for a 4 year art degree but let me tell you 4 years is alot of time but you don't seem to be the type who values his time. Lol good luck achieving your "dream" of making it.

>> No.6298554

>>6298550
I'm not changing goalposts, it's a naturally flowing conversation you fucking weirdo.

>> No.6298556

>>6298554
You got told, retard. You acted like the crab was making genuine comparative measurements when he purposefully misaligned it. I showed you the correct alignment and you were like "oohh but still..." meaning you didn't notice the crab misaligned it. Get your eyes checked before you tell others the same.

>> No.6298561

>>6298556
but like... your shit is still off...

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6298568

>>6298561
>b-but muh MiSaLiGnMenTs
Yeah, the right eye. The rest is fine retard you couldn't do better. Which is why you still haven't posted work. It's funny because I already know your skill level based on the way you talk; you're shit.
Regardless, copying isn't something encouraged in a portfolio. It's irrelevant to skill/talent. Now go.

>> No.6298572

>>6298568
>The rest is fine
>>6298549
>You'll never improve if you put yourself on a pedestal and pretend your shit doesn't stink.

>> No.6298573

>>6298572
>still no work
Says a lot about you.

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GOD PLEASE END THIS THREAD

>> No.6298578

>>6298576
but why? it's comedic gold

>> No.6298583

>>6298578
autistic gold

>> No.6298587

>>6298583
I get a good laugh from autists having tard fits.

>> No.6299480

>>6298479
Better than 99.9 percent of all ic! Go for it!

>> No.6299494

>>6296483
I know that drawing wouldn't fly where I live in all 3 universities I know. Europe btw. I looked at a few dozen successful portfolios locally and they were all very diverse. watercolor paintings, pencil gesture sketches, clay pottery, photography, crayons, coal sketches. They gotta have a decent level of quality though.

>> No.6299505

>>6296483
>>6296650
https://artprof.org/art-school/bfa-programs-art-school/art-school-portfolios-examples/
instead of coming on here and defending your shit, go look at portfolios that students used that got accepted and compare yours to theirs.
Are you on that level? Yes? Then you're good to go.
No? Then improve until the answer is a yes.

(btw, you're currently at a hard no)

>> No.6299530

>>6299505
>that student that drew a thousand hands
based

>> No.6299567

>>6299505
>hard no
That's not what he wants to hear anon. He'll see you as a crab from now on.

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Thanks anons looks like I'm gonna be applying for Animation.
Fine Arts is nice and all but I would rather cut the art history and abstract crap and go straight for the good stuff. Animation (most likely) allows you to partake in drawing classes and doesn't force you to study Matisse and pretend he's a master.
This art school teaches animation and the first years are literally professional level artists. Like, better than anyone I've seen on /ic/.
I have background in Blender and Premier Pro/After Effects/Photoshop so looks like I'll have to prepare 20 pieces following tutorials including some drawings by the end of November. Wish me luck!
Also visiting the Museum today for some inspo.

>> No.6300553

>>6300538
>Wish me luck!
I hope their rejection humbles you.

>> No.6300570

>>6300553
He'll be fine people can get into any art program with pic rel as long as he is willing to pay. I heard you don't pay any interest these days. He can take out another loan for fine arts if he wanted to. Sky is the limit. However my concern is he might turn into some irl schizo you wouldn't want to work with even if he got a job.

>> No.6300573

>>6300570
>job
You implied that he'll get good after finishing artschool.

>> No.6300580

>>6300573
Sure but personality wise is a different story. You wouldn't want to work with an asshole right?

>> No.6300585

>>6300538
which schools are you applying to?

>> No.6300587

>>6300580
>asshole
I've been on /beg/ for 1.5 year anon. He's a certified asshole. He shat at least 30+ threads.

>> No.6300594

>>6300587
Why is he so delusional?

>> No.6300595

>>6300585
I don't want to doxx my location but it's one of the top ten art schools in the world. I'll also apply some other ones if the deadlines meet. I'll let you know after I graduate and move back to Japan and start manga school.

>> No.6300606

>>6300595
>Calarts
>Sheridan
>Ringling
>SCAD
>Art Center
>LCAD
>RISD
It's one of these, or it's a shit school

>> No.6300608

Oh, also
>Gobelins
But you're not French.

>> No.6300609

>>6300606
All of those are shit schools too
>All art schools are shit

>> No.6300613

>>6300594
Beat me. I like to think that he's a troll conducting some social experiments.

>> No.6300616

>>6300587
I know what you mean. I tried helping this faggot one time to get over his symbol drawing then realized it was a massive waste of anyone's time hence why I alluded to him failing to even hold a job in the first place. Again, nobody wants to work with a narcissistic schizo even if he is good at the job.

>> No.6300618

>>6296483
You need a portfolio with multiple bargues.