/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

guess who?

>>6295406
i tried to do a drawing of a PlayStation controller. any advice?.

Any way I can improve this line art before I colour it?

>>6295416
left foot seems detached from the ankle

how do i paint good hair

>>6295445
You have bigger problems like where is the light even coming from and why are the highlights on the eyes angled in the opposite direction In would complain about his face proportions but those might actually be on purpose

First time drawing a scene with characters AND background where both are fully rendered. I wanted to draw something other than anime girl standing in the void for once. Compression fucks it a bit whatever

>>6295448
light is an overcast daylight, you're right though the eyes are a bit messed up

>>6295445
what is going on with this eggshape portrait in a black square? feels really wierd

Done with this one, Thoughts?

>>6295644
makes me wanna shoot crows out of my neck

>>6295644
I think one would have to be high to appreciate it. I would say the amount of effort is at least commendable, but I'm pretty sure it's AI generated, so you don't even get the A for effort.

>>6295445
The lip highlight kinda looks like a tooth

>>6295416
Perspective. Where's the horizon line?

>>6295459
Composition, having the HL right in the middle and the VP in the center

>>6295459
I like it, it has a good comfy night feeling.
Some suggestions:
While the lineart has a very loose feeling, I'd suggest to keep it more clean or careful at the foreground and with more information (meaning, drawing more details or more accuracy in the objects you are depicting), also keeping the straights as consistent as you can, that alone gives the feeling of structure or that an object is solid, if you want to add variety, you can change the line weight or just have a set of different of techniques to approach various materials or to imply simplification and depth.
For lighting, I think the focus of the image is pretty clear and works nicely, just remember if you ever need to highlight something, you can always create a light source that helps contextualize your composition, for example if you want to have a better time rendering smoke or vapor you can add one small light source near it, rim lights also are a good option when you want to contrast darks or describe the form better with characters or things that blend in the shadows, for the background apartments, I'd still keep the straight lines idea, you still want accuracy for your structures, just that it doesn't pop out as much, for lights and shadows that's the value scale, just reducing it will create depth, keep the lightest lights darker than your lightest lights on the foreground, same idea for the darks, it gets more complicated than that with other compositions, but it's a good starting point.
The composition works but in a 2nd look it's always good to keep the context or idea of what's going on clear for the viewer, there's a relationship with that cat and the girl, but you want to tell what they exactly feel or have a clear emotional read, I'm not sure what to feel about them, technical skill is needed, but the nuance comes from how they are interacting, it's about looking at real life and see these scenarios to grab a sense of it, it's less prescriptive and more personal.
Hope it helps.

>>6295412
considering its a somewhat boxy item, i feel confident in my opinion, which is
>so much effort, for such a small effect
i doubt you need to draw so much construction lines and measurements
you could save yourself a lot of this tedious work by eyeballing it more and drawing what feels right

>>6295717
Very good advice thank you very much. I'll see how I can implement these tips effectivly

>>6295666

Some progress shots.

I guess thats a new gaptcha in ic now to prove youre not a robot.

So you know what's really fucking hard to draw? Cars. Late model cars. There are no lines parallel or perpendicular to the ground. There are no 90 degree angles. Everything is a curve, and they're all random because God forbid it look like last year's model or another brand!
This is really fucking hard!

>>6295753
For me, it's top middle

>>6295753
for me it's the third one

some booty sketches in these trying times

A sketch with little shadows, without colors this time.

guess i am slowly ruining this with the cast light especially

any tips to work with the cast light?
I guess I could stop at occlusion maybe, but the cast light would make it look really nice I think

xrd terrorist

Man, I wish I could unflatten my shit or at least learn different angles.

>>6296051
it's time to move to a different drawing. Also shading or hatching will help give form to a drawing.

>>6296051
>>6296055
i cant draw for shit

>>6296055
then it will just end up like this

>>6296061
you can if you study more

>>6295926
I used AI to mess with the light source. is this cheating? am I shooting myself at the foot doing this?

pretty cool stuff though. but I don't know much about light to see if this is correct or not.

>>6296051
how old are you? and be honest its all anonymous here

>>6295926
The cast shadow make the skin look like it's made out of different materials/colors like she is some kind of fantasy creature. You have a separation of light and shadow and then you have a darker part of the shadow with a completely hard edge for no reason.It should be the same value.

>>6296069
I can't study, I cant focus.
I just copy what I see people do and copy it poorly and then just draw every day on a teabag paper thingy.

>>6296055
I haven't had time to draw due to my job calling me in because a zoomer quit meaning we're understaffed in an already short staffed position. Also college and depression have got to me.
>>6296088
Im nineteen, I wish I can get good enough so people don't think im underaged.

>>6295367
Wow. This is the best thing you've drawn yet dude.

>>6296092
try shading like i do and it makes it look a lot better even if a proper artist can see you fucked up most people wont see shit
>cause they dont care, really.
I guess you just gotta draw for fun and keep the drawing simple

>>6296092
do some figure drawing or bring a pen and small sketch book and draw people on your down time at work. Like the other person said keep things simple until you understand them.

I sketched this from imagination. I have a feeling I made the arms too short and the legs slightly longer than they need to be.

nvm i fnished tit :D

>>6296096
I can't even remember last time I did shading, is there any good tutorials on it?
>>6296100
I wish my job didn't make me butt fucking tired during an average shift or else I would do that.

>>6296092
you manage to draw every day, that will add up if you practice correctly

dont worry so much about others perception, theyre too busy concentrated on what theyre doing, keep working, dont use self-defeating language like >>6296061, everyone started from somewhere

>>6296109
>I wish my job didn't make me butt fucking tired during an average shift or else I would do that.
You don't have to spend 2 hours on it, even if it's just 10-15 minutes each day it will add up eventually, go look through the sticky or just pick up/pirate loomis figure drawing for all it's worth

>>6296066
i've always wanted the context behind this image. i get the impression that it's all just a joke or the 'artist' developed brain tumor or some.

>>6296111
Its hard, I don't really know any good books/resources, especially stuff thats time friendly. Only person that helps me is this one eurofag that just says "draw real people. Its hard to when you live in bum fuck midwest and there isn't crowded places.
>>6296137
Its hard to explain why my job isn't drawing friendly.

>>6296155
photo references are fine, it doesnt need to be from life

>>6296169
There was this great mega file with a shit ton of references of angles, body types etc but I can't find it anymore. I also just want to draw bbws and the like. The website I use for gestures got so overused by me I ran out of poses to use.

I just got a little 40 dollar drawing tablet

What software should I use

>>6295459
actually creates a sense of space and atmosphere and story. it's better than 99% of the same trash generic tranime character portrait that gets posted

>>6296221
there is this mega with a bunch of books and references if anyone is interested

https://mega.nz/folder/es1BSKQR#spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw

I realized I just needed to actually use a pen for the lineart instead of very small brush.

>>6296278
those are some freaky fingers

>>6296087
>am I shooting myself at the foot doing this?
yes

>>6296282
I wouldn't be here if I knew how to draw them.

>>6296288
try making that hand pose yourself
it's very unnatural, you'll see how your fingers will want to bend as a group

>>6296288
Above the neck looks good, the arm lengths are completely different. I'm guessing you drew the hands first, then added the arms after.

>>6296293
something like pic related was my original intent, but I shoot myself in the foot by trying something slightly different.
>>6296295
> I'm guessing you drew the hands first
yeah.
fuck, I didnt notice this.

>>6296295
does this make more sense?

Hello beg, today i was slow as fuck. Still finished!

>>6294891
Its hard to properly describe the feeling but yes, it is definitely doing something to my right brain hemisphere (the mute one which is used during complex long tasks like the drawing). I got faster and i no longer struggle copying pieces with too many "scribbles" nor i get overwhelmed when i am drawing complex stuff like ornaments or foliage. I also started to feel the form. Its kinda like the book said: gesture isnt something you learn by reading about it or watching it. You learn it only by doing it. IF nothing else it is making me drawing a lot from reference and building drawing habits which frankly a lot of begs dont have from what i have seen here or on discord.
>>6296231
weeb with shit PC = paint tool SAI
weeb with strong PC = clip paint studio
normie = krita
wannabe professional = corel painter
hipster = art rage
boomer = photoshop
zoomer = plug your tablet into iPhone / iPad / Android and use Procreate
>>6296106
Thumbs up
>>6296087
no cheating, just tools. But imho you should learn how to render yourself before relying on advanced tools otherwise you are asking for trouble when the tool fails
>>6296068
witcher moonwraith? Looks promising but it needs work
>>6295761
Thumbs up
>>6295644
You wont win any normie praise with pieces like these but its very creative and disturbing
>>6295459
SOUL. And it looks good. I kneel. The perspective, the feels, the color palette, the contrast. Perfect. I kneel harder.
>>6295445
You pretty much nailed it. Half the job did the fuzzy brush you used but you take all the credit.
>>6295412
Looks good. I only wonder why or how did you over engineered it like that with so many extra lines.
>>6295403
Cute and stylish. Thumbs up
>>6296278
Very promising and cute

>>6296302
Yeah but now the wrist is broken. You cant angle your hand that if your forearm is sticking straight out, try yourself

>>6296304
appreciate it

>>6296309
Now I feel the left hand is slightly smaller, but I want to correct the shape first.

>>6296319
Looks much better

quick sketch I did yesterday

>>6296324
Thanks for your help, dude.

>>6295367

Haven drew in a while, Things I've noticed from my recent sketch is that I feel the head is a bit too big and the pose might be a little stiff. Gonna try working on poses for the next while.

>>6296378
What a coincidence! I drew him last night too.

>>6295367
>Furshit I know, but it was a commission
Anyone know some digital brushes that could work well with this style?

>>6296424
>pic

>>6296427
Stupid website

i get the gist of perspective, and i get the gist of figures, but combining the two is a huge mental roadblock for me.

any tips? (for, like, foreshortening or figures in extreme perspective)

Who is the best gesture teacher of them all, cuz gesture stumps me.

latest work

please help, what am i doing wrong with these gesture drawings? I read michael hampton the top 4 are drawn from his book the others i did.

>>6296512
Im going to bed, but this stuck out like a sore thumb

>>6295416
Altogether, the posture and facial expression look cute. That said, while I understand that you were trying to do some foreshortening, the right wrist of the girl is misplaced in relation to her forearm; the joint seems to be situated in the middle of the back of her hand instead of at its base. Therefore, you should move her hand further to her right, until the base of the carpometacarpal joint of the thumb lines up properly with the outline of her forearm.

Her right foot has a similar issue, but less glaring; you should move it further to the right as well, and maybe depict it a bit sideways.

Altogether, the posture and facial expression look cute.

That said, while I understand that you were trying to do some foreshortening, the right wrist of the girl is misplaced in relation to her forearm; the joint seems to be situated in the middle of the back of her hand instead of at its base.

Therefore, you should move her hand further to her right, until the base of the carpometacarpal joint of the thumb lines up properly with the outline of her forearm.

Her right foot has a similar issue, but less glaring; you should move it further to the right as well, and maybe depict it a bit sideways.

>>6295416
Altogether, the posture and facial expression look cute. That said, while I understand that you were trying to do some foreshortening, the right wrist of the girl is misplaced in relation to her forearm; the joint seems to be situated in the middle of the back of her hand instead of at its base.

Therefore, you should move her hand further to her right, until the base of the carpometacarpal joint of the thumb lines up properly with the outline of her forearm. Her right foot has a similar issue, but less glaring; you should move it further to the right as well, and maybe depict it a bit sideways.

Going to apply for a Fine Arts degree at art school.
To those who went, what was your portfolio like? Did something at this level get you in?

>>6296548
if you're actually serious, you better get busy with creating a portfolio at bare minimum.

>>6296550
Yeah I need some ideas. I have to submit like 10 drawings and produce an art video or something. I don't have much time until the deadline, so I need ideas and how much time I should spend on each. >>6296548 took me like 30 mins to an hour.

Hello community, I have a question and it is about this type of image, I do not understand where the vanishing point comes from, I tried to find them but the lines do not match with my vanishing point

everytime i think im getting better at gesture ill make a real dog shit ugly one and ruin the entire set.

Also did a study.

>>6296577
>>6296579
Are you taking Vilppu course?
>Bad gestures
that's the point right? practice makes perfect.

>>6296586
yes

>>6295412
Perspective is all over the place. Its nice to draw boxes to help nail down whats where but it kind of looks like you eyeballed the angles of the boxes but forced whatever you drew in the box to be proportionate to the box instead of reality. Never forget the most important advice when drawing based on reality
>draw what you see, not what you think you see

>>6296548
Applying for a degree? Not just to get in the school? If its to get in the school you just need to show a basic grasp of fundamentals. Perspective, color theory, and composition. For a degree? You are barely on the starting line.

>>6296611
It's to get into university fine arts course. For a degree, to get into the school.
Are you saying I am ready to apply already?

>>6296551
Draw Michael Collins at Béal na mBláth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9al_na_Bl%C3%A1th
or the massacre at Croke park, 21 November 1920 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920)
or the Omagh car bombing picture of the Father and his kid in front of the Vauxhal minutes before it went up in flames https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing
or draw Michael finnegan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Finnegan_(song)
or draw Tom Barry an IRA Commander https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Barry_(Irish_republican)
that is 5...
James Connolly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly
The pogues song a pair of brown eyes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pair_of_Brown_Eyes
Suvla Bay 1919 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_at_Suvla_Bay
Mercenary Revolt in Rio de Janeiro https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_and_German_Mercenary_Soldiers%27_revolt
Napoleon's irish Legion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Legion
And that is 10 things to draw, no idea if this is what you needed but here you go anyways.

>>6296654
>>6296548
not that anon, but man. You really are a delusional retard. I hope reality can slap some sense to you.
>>6296304
You should shut up. Your "crits" and unworthy praises can only lead people astray. Also, that's not how scribing work btw.

>>6296660
Thanks for the ideas anon, but they seem way too complicated to me. I don't mean the suggestion itself, but I have no idea what any of those are and seems like it will lose meaning in the process of drawing. For example I have no connection to Ireland.
I thought of a way I can 99.99% pass the application though. I won't be sharing it until I pass, but yeah thanks anyway!

>>6296662
>not that anon, but man. You really are a delusional retard. I hope reality can slap some sense to you.
Lmao I'm not delusional enough to think that I'm on the same level as those accepted submissions on Youtube. They literally mog everyone on /ic/.
I thought of a way I can pass the test I'll share after I pass. Look forward to it.
I've studied at over 4 universities including University of Tokyo, I'm actually a veteran at this application shit. Just you wait.

>>6296665

>>6295644
thanks, yeah I gave up on getting normie praise a while ago, mostly because I was not getting it.

at this point im making art that I want or none at all, which is nice since I started printing them out and doing small exhibitions which are awesome.

>>6296669
Is that you? Screencapped for when I actually pass.

>>6296673
>random garbage for porfolio
LOL

>>6296663
No problem, figured I'd post something I've not seen much art of.
Beal na mBlath even has awful art that depicts a complete fiction like this:
https://www.whytes.ie/art/michael-collins-beal-na-blath-ambush/146255/
instead of what it actually looks like:
https://michaelcollinscentre.com/michael-collins-tours/
>last image shows where he was shot
Anyways, good luck!

>post some retarded shit for attention
>no one gave a shit
>better suck my own cock
truely sad

>>6296387
Mind posting? Haven’t seen a whole lot of smasher fanart

Learning Hampton's method for gesture. Proko is shit. I'm moving forward with the robo-bean lessons though.

>>6296744
Hampton is good stuff, don't know about Proko.

>>6296741
I posted it on /mg/
>>6296767
Is that a parry shield? Very cool.

>>6296771
>Is that a parry shield? Very cool.
Buckler yeah, thanks man!

Do you guys listen to anything while studying/drawing?

>>6296797
I listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VtzsBWUJt0

>>6296797
No one is smart enough to listen to music and study drawing at the same time. People like to think people can multitask but it's not really a thing humans are good at.

>>6296569
It probably doesn't line up
Up close like that no one notices.

>>6295761
Tuckanon!
Yeah curves are hard.

>>6295416
Her right foot yeah the rest looks really great!

>>6296825
I listen to music although sometimes I don't even notice when I forget to put it on

why is drawing so taxing on brain? it feels like I'm doing algebra or something

>>6296863
Because you're holding tension.
Become aware of it and let it go when you do.

It’s really tough to draw with my finger.

>>6296912
Buy stylus pens for touch screens on Amazon dummy

>>6296918
Fuck off, you shilling Jew fag.

>>6296923
You know what, you're right...

>>6296926
It’s okay. I know your people can’t help it.

>>6296797
>Music
- Ambience
https://youtu.be/dd4D8tZPfKE
- Dungeon Synth
https://youtu.be/dI7tjPGEz7U
>Long form videos
- Game analysis, retrospective
https://youtu.be/VZ9u8S26tGk
- Lore, horror, tier list, iceberg..
https://youtu.be/NGbuZ-65Qz8
https://youtu.be/imNtSPM3-r4
- Audio books
https://youtu.be/vqIxCqayQok

>>6296825
What matters is whether Loomis listened to music.

>>6296823
Amazing
>>6296825
Not even a backround noise like rain ambiance etc?
>>6296948
Thanks i'll try those
>>6296949
Kek. Did he?

>>6296956
>Not even a backround noise like rain ambiance etc?
NOTHING.

>>6296797
srw t ost
jam project songs

>>6296825
>People like to think people can multitask but it's not really a thing humans are good at.
You're spewing some DotRSotB tier BS. Hearing music is not a task and this applies mostly to types of tasks anyway. Drawing one image with your right hand and a different image with your left hand is something the vast majority of people can't do (supposedly da Vinci could, probably through practice, but there are a lot of post-industrial myths about the limits of human capability, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that multitasking is just a skill you can practice that we are told is "impossible"), as is reading a text while listening to (and processing) audible words, but listening to music while drawing has effectively no overlap.

>>6296969
Cope and seethe. Listening to music is a NGMI move.

>>6296969
Milt Kahl, one of the Disney's great nine old men couldn't draw and listen to music.

>>6296825
>>6296959
That's what a WEAK human being would say.

>>6296971
>>6296972
WEAKLINGS

>>6296975
I’ll weak your ass with my dick!

>>6296569
well it's some comic book drawing so it's probably not perfectly accurate perspective most of those artists don't plot out everything exactly they just make things that look cool whether technically right or wrong doesn't matter as much. but obviously the vanishing point would be somewhere angled down and to the right since the camera/viewer is looking up at the character, so the horizon line eye level will be low.

>>6296988
Your WEAK pencil dick wouldn't do

>>6296959
I picture you dying once "THE HUM!!" comes a hummin'!!!

>>6296797
no. I inevitably shift my focus to music if it's playing

>>6297283
right nostril isnt visible and the bottom lip is rounder instead of diamond shaped, shave off part of the bottom of the chin too, also philtrum is too long

A failed experiment, first time using a flex nib pen since I started fucking around with ballpoints. Overworked the shit out of it cause it was fucked anyway. My wife says it reminds her of the guy with no skin in hellraiser. I think it looks like troon Hitler.
I like the ink, I just need a better way to use it.

>>6297367
you using a fountain pen or dip pen?

>>6296569
Vanishing point will only be the same for multiple objects if they're perfectly parallel. The body is not perfectly aligned with the seat. Use the inorganic forms to find the perspective, bodies shift and twist.

>>6297371
Fountain. The point is it's portable. I'm really tired of doing these shitty faces, but when you have like twenty or thirty minutes to kill and there's nothing worth drawing (references suck from a phone) then it's what I know.

>>6297397
as a follow fountain pen user, i'm thinking about getting a flex nib. What pen/nib combo are you using.

>>6297406
Gay ass stock Ahab. That's yama-buda pilot weeb magenta ink.

>>6297410
yeah, i was looking at that and also fpr pens/nibs. sucks that it cost a lot and i don't know if I would like it.

>>6297419
It's it worth $25 and dye based ink of you don't already have? Well, I've gotten more of of it than $50 at Applebee's with my wife, so there's that. If money is tight, skip it for now.

>>6297367
schizo /beg/

>>6297436
Beg, yes. Schizo no. Why do you keep saying that?

>>6297476
schizo psyop if everyone is a schizo then no one is don't listen to his lies

>>6297476
There are 3 in this general. You baloony head schizo, the scribing schizo, esdeath schizo and the doodle schizo. Retarded, stuborn, annoying.

>>6297487
>3
4

>>6297487
It's getting out of hand.

>>6297367
>I think it looks like troon Hitler.
holy shit it does. What ink, Iroshizuku Yama-Budo? Looks like it, it's my personal favourite. If you layer it a few times it sheens gold. I haven't used a flex, but I love my brushes and my ordinary fine point steel nib 20 dollar pilot metropolitan (low-end fountain pen but still feels way better than writing with a ballpoint; I keep it loaded with platinum carbon because I use it for work).

my first vent art

>>6297501
>Iroshizuku
Yeah, I'll try layering it with a brush later. Sounds neat.
>Platinum carbon
It doesn't like that stuff, it clogs and shit.
>>6297487
>>6297492
If there are four than there can be no more than two

If you think about it.

A quick one I worked on tonight.

>>6297502
Nice job with the reflection
>>6296497
what are you using to get your fade on the hair? is it just a selection of the hair with the gradient tool?
And got any tips on getting a soft shadow like the ones near the tip of the nose and forehead?
>>6296319
Nice

How is this looking? Drawing a Ur-Dragon from a game for a MTG card art.
I was intending on making him look intimidating and macabre.

Thoughts?

>>6297638
head too tall

How do I get faster at drawing? This is about what I can do in 30ish minutes. There's lots of issues with anatomy, I know what's wrong, and if I give myself time I can fix it. But how do I just do it correctly the first time? If I didn't have to make corrections of some bad issues on the right one, I probably could've gotten both arms, hands, and some clothes.

>>6297616
Looks great so far.

>>6297638
The eye is in a cavity, so the forehead should extend past the eye cavity. My first thought's with that forehead was Butthead.

>>6297643
Pic didn't attach for some reason.

first life drawing session

I just want to be free from it

>>6297616
Very cool.

Being wagecuck sucks. Didnt progress that much today.
>>6297649
Please, dont rush it.

>>6297643
>>6297646
Try spending 30 minutes a day doing exercises out of the Vilppu Drawing Manual. Circles, Beans, Boxes, etc. That will raise your accuracy and ability to put down lines exactly where you want them.

Of course, instead of that, you could just try getting better at drawing, but doing exercises will speed up your improvement.

can I get yelled at about what I'm fuckin' up?

Is her right arm and hand correct and is there anything else I need to fix?

What's the best resource for learning how to draw basic forms (cubes, spheres, cylinders, etc) in perspective?

So as it turns out architecture is way harder than I thought. I can see my construction errors, but I think the bigger issue lies with my colors/values. However, I'm having trouble pinpointing exactly what/where.
Can anyone give me advice on how/where to improve?

>>6297806
I think your colours are actually pretty cosy, just need more refinement.
The contruction is the major issue, like just look at the direction of the roof lines of the second level down, a huge difference and would be vastly improved with the correction

Any one who uses the book Figure Drawing for Artist Make Every Mark Count by Steve Huston.

How do you guys trace the first two chapters of the book?

>>6297614
Quick?
Damn nice.
>>6297654
Cute!

vilppu's anatomy courses are really amazing. Feeling significantly less filtered by the subject now.

>>6297839
i dropped it so fast because of the lack of actual teaching material. The pictures make great master studies once you start learning Vilppu though.

>>6297809
Ok thanks, I'll work on being more diligent when copying my construction lines to a physical canvas.
I was doing organic plants/landscapes before so I could get away with eyeballing it with a rough grid, but if it's hindering me that much I'll be more careful.

>>6297864
Any alternative figure drawing learning material? I don't want just to study Keys to Drawing only and go for a simple figure drawing while still practicing my hand and eyes. I only keep drawing bugs,animals and objects in a while.

>>6297880
vilppu lol, go download his videos off the torrent rn so you can watch them tomorrow.

>>6297881
Gotcha! Hope that will be worth it.

>>6297614
>what are you using to get your fade on the hair? is it just a selection of the hair with the gradient tool?
just draw the hair and create a clipping layer above it. then paint with air brush

>And got any tips on getting a soft shadow like the ones near the tip of the nose and forehead?
use airbrush (for smooth shading) + hard round eraser (to create a hard edge on the airbrush)

Can anon fulfill the job scopes? This is mock job description.
>We are looking for a talented and well-rounded Generalist Artist to support our Art department. The ideal candidate will be comfortable with --- games art styles, particularly --- , to create a wide range of polished artwork, such as logos, concepts, 3D models, and illustrations for in-game and promotional art and marketing campaigns.
>This artist should be versatile in creating conceptual 2D images, transforming them into 3D assets, and polishing 3D assets into high-end illustrations. The candidate should be flexible and able to work on multiple events while managing overlapping deadlines.
>Responsibilities
- Work closely with Production, the Art Director, and the rest of the team to develop concepts, prototypes, and production-ready content.
- Create a wide variety of art from environments, characters, props, and some visual effects.
- Create concepts, wireframes, 2D & 3D environments, game assets, and polished artwork.
- Demonstrable knowledge of lighting, color, rendering, and composition with a solid general art foundation.
- Able to create artwork from scratch following a specific art style and understand how that translates into our marketing campaigns.
- Work with 2D / 3D art assets using Photoshop to create several promotional images of our products.
- Timely delivery of assets to the production pipeline within Miniclip.
- Organize files and assets logically and helpfully according to the production pipeline.

>>6297940
Cont.
>Experience:
- We are looking for candidates with mobile/game experience, ideally.
- 5+ years of art created using Photoshop / Illustrator, Blender, Procreate, or similar tools.
- Have some experience in 3D tools modeling, rigging, texturing, rendering, and animation.
- Generalist with experience in design, 2D painting, and 3D modeling skills.
- Able to create art thumbnails and conceptualize ideas quickly.
- Proactive, able to identify and solve problems across multiple platforms and pipelines.
- Proven ability to work effectively in a team with a fast production environment.
- Ability to adapt and be effective in a highly dynamic environment.
- Able to effectively and quickly build a team relationship based on trust and respect, with competence and confidence.
- Passion for entertainment and games is a big plus.
>Valued Extras (not mandatory):
- Video edition and composition / CC After Effects
- Animation and rigging experience
- Spine (Character / Prop animation)
- Knowledge and passion for mobile games
- Experience working in a marketing agency or mobile game industry
- Experience working on promotional campaigns
- Traditional art skills experience
- Passion for video games, movies, graphic novels, science fiction, and other elements of pop culture
- Experience with digital photography

>>6295445
I approach hair by how well the shapes is defined and how glossy it is. Look at artists whose hair you like, ask yourself why and learn from how they did it.

>>6295644
The thumbnail is pretty cool, but up close it's a little wonky. The red hair going down looks really low res and needs some sharper brushes. The shape of the lips is a bit off too. I like the vines on the left cheek, the eyes, brows and forehead.

hey fellas
if any of you want to learn in a more friendly way i made a server in disc.

https://discord.gg/V4aPx4J9dp

check it out

>>6297851
“Quick” as in it took me about 2-3 hours rather than my usual 2-3 day projects I end up scrapping anyways.

>>6297929
Thanks for the tips man! I’ll give them a shot next project I work on.

>>6295367
how do I stop being a little PUSSY when it comes to putting ideas I have onto paper, I'm always worried that it won't turn out the way I want it to so I just freeze and piss my pants which then turns into procrastination and self-loathing.

>>6298032
everyone messes up before they succeed, it only ends up being failure if you stop, maybe take a look at your old drawings and see how you have improved since then

>>6296051
I tried to do a new drawing, not sure about this character design, wanted to give him the vibe of a slapstick cartoon character with some capeshit design sensibilities

Don't feel like starting a thread so I'll ask here.
What tools/techniques do use to make the skin all shiny/realistic instead of just one flat color? How do I even know where it goes?

finally practicing hands

>>6298087
https://online-courses.club/?s=skin
Take a look here.
>>6298092
Baste.

It's been a year since I started drawing, but it's still at this level. I don't know how to improve, It took me a year to prove that I'm a loser.
With my talent, maybe it would berjmhrm better to give up, please tell me the truth.

>>6298106
Do you like drawing?
Do you want to be able to draw?
Then keep practicing.
I know it's diffiult when the results aren't there like you want them to be but don't give up on things you like or want to do.

>>6298106
years don't matter, how many minutes of that year you spent drawing does
how many drawings have you made so far?

>>6298133
nice frog

>>6298135
frog

I love doodling skulls bros

>>6298133
cool hat

autumn dude

>>6298143
dont use black to shade

>>6298106
get more reference and observe more

>>6298095
Those are some big feet!

I have an android tablet. Which app should I use?

>>6298188
He's practicing for clown school, although it isn't going well so he decided to go for a drink!

>>6298106
Are you drawing from reference or imagination?

>>6298216
I think csp gives a free 6 months on new Android tablets

>>6298188
>>6298227
God damnit why is it always stupid mistkaes like that you overlook, thanks btw.

>>6298251
Tried it and it really sucked. Really laggy and retarded UI

>>6298270
Works fine on my tablet. Try Krita

Hello BEGs, painting with color is shit in GIMP. The brush engine is so simple it simply cannot keep the texture with the color applied (the brighter the color the less the texture is visible) and you cannot edit saturation or hue in dynamics.

>>6298216
krita
>>6298143
he looks depressed
>>6298106
Have you read keys to drawing? If not thats a great starting point
>>6298087
Dodge/Burn tool, Clone tool and using texture from photo as source, thats what i have seen pros use
>>6298032
just draw lmao, draw and PYW
>>6297943
is job market so fucked there are now bots posting recruitment ads even on a fucking 4chan?
>>6297819
That anime face is so mega clashing with the "realistic" body and rifle holy shit. Even the ears are less flat than that face
>>6297806
You need keys to drawing: the chapters with sighting techniques like leveling or plumbing and chapter about perspective. Other than fucked up geometry it looks ok.
>>6297616
Its kinda chaotic but you will most likely fix that since its WIP. Looks epic
>>6296662
You forgot to PYW anon

>>6298296
t. retard.

>r/sketchydaily references

I need to get my ass back into drawing after not studying for a while and I want to go through a video course, I've got several from the video course thread but I have no clue which one to start off with.
Which one do I pick?

>>6297614
>be me
>listening to tunes while scrolling /beg/ /int/
>No Surprises - Radiohead comes on
>mfw it really fit this piece

>>6296107
i love your style, this is so FUCKING cute

>>6296673
You can actually see the total lack of direction this trad permabeg portrays even in 3d. No matter what, you will never be as good as someone like lucyfag >>6296497 or scribble schizo >>6298142

i hope it's not TOO jank
folded body poses are hard

>>6298418
Is that a belly button way up there?

>>6298421
yeah she's supposed to be bent over a bit

You ever get extremely fucking angry that you can't pull anything off right on certian days? Do you take breaks/sleep on it and try another day?

>>6298449
I don't get angry. I switch mediums. I still have a shit load of miniatures to paint (how I got into art in the first place) colored pencil I can use on existing drawings, an acoustic guitar I suck at but can fake like I'm good for two minutes.
Never get angry at this kind of shit. Save that for the right(or wrong) people.

>>6298490
Not terrible. Keep it up!

あ!

Learned that I needed to work on light source in my last post. Now what?

Finally got a tablet, and after some growing pains I think I'm seeing improvements.

>>6298492
Fuck, im jealous of your patience

So what's the logical progression from trad to digital?
>mastery of pencils
>master of ink
>mastery of color
>mastery of rendering

>>6298624
mastery of hard round brush. Simple as

>>6298418
A good trick for foreshortened bodies is to draw them from the side first and make markers of where each body part is. Also, sorry for the schizo scribbles, I drew this with my finger on my phone.

>>6298687
Pic didn't attach

>>6298687
>>6298692
tytyt

>>6298624
I think you just autistically change mediums at whim. Only legit way to do it.

i hate drawing, but i love painting. i am doomed?

>>6298710
Get into miniatures

Thoughts and tops? Kinda new to oil

>>6298727
The bare canvas spots hurt my brain and make this (ironically) look fake.

>>6298748
still in unfinished ofc

tho i realize its better to cover the whole thing even if with the wrong colors so ill do it next time, cause those white spots get annoying to precisely cover later on

>>6297654
at my limit

I need to find a faster process

>>6295367
Any feedback is appreciated.

>>6295459
this picture has sovl, good stuff.

I am having trouble trying to give weight to my drawing

How does a side hug work
How does the boob squish work.

You guys ever just draw stuff in real settings?

>>6298824
Occasionally

AI has killed all my drive and motivation to draw.
How are you guys coping, do you have any advice for me?
Just feeling so fucking depressed right now.

Is Constructive Anatomy the best Bridgman book to start with?

>>6298824
I like these kind of drawing and want to do more of them.

>>6298832
personally i think its over for artists i think the best way to cope is to find a new hobby you enjoy whatever it is these feelings will pass

>>6298832
i'm coping by not being a little bitch. try it out sometime. just might change your life.

>>6298832
you got filtered, just like all other NGMI who crumbled at the first taste of adversity.

>>6298842
>personally i think its over for artists i think the best way to cope is to find a new hobby you enjoy whatever it is these feelings will pass
My other hobby is game dev, but Google already has coding AI as well.
Music AI is already doing fairly well and I've used it to make some tunes for my project.
It's just so soul crushing knowing there will be nothing left for humans to do in a couple of decades.

I'd pick up a sport but there's no money there and I'm already 33.
Fuck.

>>6298832
Sad but true, AI will reduce you to the status of any other animal. There is nothing you can do that future artificial beings cannot do better. Drawing is fun though. What else are you gonna do, sit around and breathe?

>>6298862
>There is nothing you can do that future artificial beings cannot do better.
speak for yourself. holy shit some people in this board are pathetic.

>>6298832 >>6298842
>>6298852 >>6298862
Return to /g/.

>>6298852
Go back to /agdg/ to cry with all the other NGMIs+gogem.

>>6298852
competitive roping

>>6298765
arm on right is a bit too thin, and eyebrows on the brow ridge directly would look better

>>6298832
there would have always been someone else better at drawing regardless, same as a musician, athlete, coder, etc. draw because you enjoy drawing and want to improve yourself, dont factor in anyone else. if you want to make a living on it, different markets will always emerge like they always have, photography got rid of people commissioning portraits for their family. maybe it will be character design, someone wont want to mess around with prompts to get the exact thing they want

>>6298840
Make a thread, ive made one before.
I forgot what I called it, but you get others to draw their own characters in your image, i love doing it.
>>6298828
Pretty good :)
Did you draw it from memory?

I got this image from another poster who drew this after we both had the same idea of drawing a large Gondola, thought it was neat so I saved it.

>>6298896
>there would have always been someone else better at drawing regardless
Yes but that artist wasn't available 24/7 and delivered you dozens of god tire artworks in a couple of minutes for a $10 monthly subscription.

How am I supposed to feed myself and find time for creative work if I'm forced to get a real job?
I don't wanna be used and thrown away like a condom by some random corporation, I want to carve my won future.

I feel I'm taking way longer that I'm supposed to...

I don't even know how to draw like the guy on the left. How do I do that, how do I understand the forms and where things should generally go?

>>6298908
artists across all of history struggled to make ends meet, picasso burnt his art for warmth and van gogh scared hookers and died, you wont be the first or last, its not the end of the world

>>6296221
Pick up the Vilppu Drawing Manual and Morpho's Fat Bodies book. Use the techniques in the VDM to copy the Fat Bodies book. First copy it painstakingly, then try to reproduce what you learned from memory. Fix your mistakes, rinse and repeat. You'll be drawin braphogs like Reubens in no time.

>>6298755
Do an underpainting first.

>>6298934
Picasso was always successful. Van Gogh was poor because he was a beg schizo who only painted for about three years before necking himself. Just 100 years ago artists were well-paid and in demand.

>>6298979
Painted for over ten, and worked far harder at it than you ever did.

>>6298838
Start with life drawing then move onto constructive anatomy

>>6299004

>>6299049

>>6299092
Nice drawings anon. Is that Conan?

>>6298594
The rendering of the arms and legs is good, but there are a few issues with the contours of the picture.

Specifically, the outlines of the face, along with those of the strands of hair and the folds of the skirt, are too dark and defined for the style of rendering that you're going for (you should avoid using pure black unless necessary when coloring). Such contours end up taking away from the overall cohesiveness of the work; the face, in particular, ends up looking as if it was a cartoony face pasted on top of a semi-realistic body.

In general, as I see it, darker and thicker outlines tend to go better with flatter shadows, while thinner contours with brighter hues (when the outlines are present) are more suitable for pieces with diffuse shading.

Thus, I suggest that you try using brighter colors for said outlines; for example, a maroon red for the contours of the folds, a pinkish-brown for the lips, the nostrils and the eyes (excluding the eyelashes), and a chocolate brown for the strands of hair.

Lastly, you should add a bit of shading to the face, as it currently looks flat when compared to the rest of the picture.

Can someone tell me why this is symbol drawing? I was told symbol drawing is "drawing what you think something looks like instead of what it actually looks like", but that doesn't really make sense because I drew while looking at the reference. If it's symbol drawing simply because one of the eyes is off the mark then isn't that a matter of accuracy and not symbol drawing?
If it's because the nose looks off, how is it symbol drawing if I don't think a nose looks like that in the first place? It just became wonky in the process of copying off the ref.

>>6299102
The eyes, ears, nose, mouth, eyebrows, jawline, and hair are all symbol drawn. Just look at them, you don't need someone to explain how they are symbol drawn when you can tell by looking

>>6299102
you have to feel the forms of what you want to draw as you draw. how things sit and blend with other things in a third-dimensional way, instead of just thinking of drawing an "eye." good luck with this since it filters 80% of wannabe artists.

>>6299115
>jawline
The jawline is literally a line. The only thing you can get wrong is the accuracy. So pretty much symbol drawing = inaccuracy. Congratulations, you are retarded.
>>6299117
Yeah it's weird because I studied Bargue Plates and felt the form when I drew the eye. Like I literally felt it wrapping around the eyeball, like I was feeling the form, the roundness of it, everything. It was almost like the eyeball was there in front of me. That's how I drew the left eye and you can see how I felt the form when I did that 45 degree turn on the right. Idk what more you expect from me other than accuracy.

>>6299102
What I tell myself when I draw something is “how much of the (nostril) am I ACTUALLY seeing?” Like in your drawing the nostril is pretty big, you’re drawing it big and round because that’s what you think in your head is what it is. But no, the nostril is a void of nothing. It’s not a dark circle, it’s literally nothing. It’s the folds of the skin that make it appear that way. Once you start seeing things for what they really are, and being honest with your drawings, is when it will click for you. Give it practice and time!

>>6299126
>asks for help
>gets help
>impotent beglet rage ensues
pottery

>>6299131
Thanks anon so symbol drawing seems to be a spectrum and not black and white? Like I slowly go from 1 to 100 instead of going from 0 to 1?
>>6299132
All you said was "just look at it, everything is symbol drawn". That's far from helpful. You're just one of those useless crabs who complained back when I drew anime faces that it was symbol drawn when anime is literally symbols. The other two anons are actually helpful.

>>6299131
Also should I draw a box for the nose and ears and eyes and everything? Will that stop me from symbol drawing? What should I do if people still say I symbol draw even after boxing everything out?

rip apart my perfection

>>6298763
i want her to beat the shit out of me and rape me

>>6299139
I’d focus more on construction, and less on rendering at this stage you’re at honestly. Cause once construction clicks for you, you’ll understand what the anon is saying. He’s right too, so don’t get your panties in a bunch lmao.

>>6298765
I suggest that you add some highlights to the hair of the woman (they could be pastel yellow in color), that would help to add further volume and texture to it.

The reflected light under her eyebrows looks too much like makeup; judging from photographs of faces illuminated by flashlights, the purplish luminosity coming from below should also be reflected in the area of her lower eyelids (pic related).

Also, I believe that the hue of her freckles could be slightly redder, but that's mostly a matter of personal taste.

>>6299145
What do you mean? Isn't cubing part of construction? I thought rendering was shading and stuff. I generally construct my heads using the Huston/Loomis methods but haven't tried cubing every feature (which should also fall under construction if I'm correct).
Anyway I have been grasping construction since the past week according to anons here so I should be ready.

>>6299148
No idea what the fuck cubing is. I just mean like yeah loomis type stuff. Honestly it seems like you’re over thinking things. Just keep drawing. Keep copying, drawing, doodling, and you’ll get there. Try not to overthink it too hard. Always draw with the intention of being better than your last. Doesn’t always have to be better but having the intention is important.

do people take requests here? where might a /beg/ go to take requests? (not coomer requests)

>>6298832
become anti-semitic and fight back against google. imagine doing something a fedposter might suggest if they wanted you to actually be effective instead of just becoming media fuel and getting arrested without doing damage. I'm not saying do it, but just imagine...

im rage quitting this poussin study. composition is so hard. The fun studies don't start until the second chapter, the da vinci sketchbook is going to filter me so hard.

>>6299160
No, that's against this boards rules. Otherwise the board would be filled with requests. A lot of media boards like /v/, /tg/, /vp/, have drawthreads where you can take requests. You could make your own dedicated thread on /i/ or participate in the many threads there.

>>6299169
i have literally no idea how I will approach this one. the shade lines alone are master tier.

>>6298913
The lineart is good, but the highlights of the hair seem to be all over the place; you should try to arrange them in concentric rings, encircling both the head and the ponytails, kinda like levitating hula-hoops (I believe that three rows of highlights would be sufficient).

Also, her wrists look quite brittle, so I recommend that you make them slightly thicker.

>>6299097
Yes
>>6277140

Can someone with Chiari Malformation learn how to draw?

>>6299092

>>6298901
No, I'm literally at the location in the photo...

>>6298763
You forgot the fart cloud

>>6299216

NEW THREAD
>>6299295
>>6299295
>>6299295

>>6299243
Heh verry cool

>>6299299

is my anatomy busted?

>>6298913
It's just like that sometimes (I watch a bunch of professional artists on twitch and sometimes the same people hammer out amazing shit in like an hour but other times they will spend a week futzing with one drawing and barely seeing any improvement and in the worst cases just end up scrapping it because it was a personal project, so it happens to everyone), but honestly I've seen you posting progress on this and it's looked maybe 1% different each day for like... three or four days now? Agonize over it less, and iterate. You're not going to produce something far above your current skill level by working on it at your current skill level for a much longer time, and you're not going to improve quickly by slowly drawing one thing rather than quickly drawing a lot of things. Since you were struggling with the hands in particular for a long time, a good starting place may be using lineofaction's hand and foot studies option with something like a five minute time limit (or less if you're feeling daring) and hammering out about 15 of those a day for a while, just trying to learn the structure and "feel" of the appendages. 5 minute poses and 1 minute poses (gestures) from that site are a good idea for improvement at drawing people, too.

The point is that you improve WAY faster by just iterating than by polishing one thing (drawing more times, rather than for more time), and to really do that you have to have low attachment to the things you draw and just go at it, getting that pen mileage and learning to simplify things efficiently without losing the underlying sense of structure.

>>6299862
Im just too tired to do too much everyday, 60-90 per night max, but I try to do doing something everyday just to build habit. But youre right. Maybe I should just do short exercises on the week and leave the complete works for the weekend.

>>6295367
This is one that i'm pretty ashamed, but I will post here anyways...