/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6285376
I think I'd like a more solid lighting better not as blended

>>6285474
I like it a lot, anon, but if i were to crit the design I'd say it looks a lot like a background character. It's mostly dark, without a very distinct silhouette or color scheme. fine if that' what you're going for though.

>>6285474
oh, you're not the guy that drew it. oh well

>>6285492
Your brain on Disney, it's a fine design.
>>6285494
Nope I'm not.

>>6285474
Unfortunately I am generally shit at lighting & shadows and solid lighting is even harder for me to figure out than the general blending of "sorta lighter/darker here and there shit I do.

>>6285492
It's supposed to be a sort of general authoritarian goon design for my setting. It's a redesign of power armored soldiers from this scene I drew during the summer.
https://www.deviantart.com/screeble/art/Warren-Battle-928364848

finally a wip that feels sexy, now to ruin it with an anime face for clout

>>6285511
Hey I remember you. I actually saved that lore dump you posted last thread. Your lore and designs are very cozy, they strike a good balance of being grim but not edgy. Is this lore going anywhere in particular? It'd be fun to see mini ala 40k of these guys.

>>6285521
These things are atm drawn and written for my own autismal amusement. I'd love to do more with them if I had the funds/connections to make them into a product but alas, as a poorfag with zero connections I am consigned to just worldbuild for fun on my own time.

>>6285532
Halfway through realized I was using my sketch brush so the linework is kinda jagged.

>>6285504
well your 'fix' made it worse

>>6285511
colors look a lot better here. now you just need to work on your pillow shading

Found out that shading improves the ugliest faces

how do I get over that feeling of kms whenever I start drawing?

>>6285581
Just draw a few doodles till you feel better I guess?

>>6285581
Go to /i/ and draw random things in any thread there, always helps me relax and practice while having fun, also makes me draw things I normally wouldn't even think of

>>6285532
Halfway up it looks decent but legs are terrible, why he even standing like that lol.

>>6285635
Yea agreed
As for the legs, idk powerstance?
It was the same in the reference.

>>6285452
What does it mean if my post gets no (You)s?

>>6285663
just aipost instead. you're guarunteed 2 replies, minimum

>>6285663
just means it hasnt elicited a reaction, doesnt mean your art is good or bad, just means people dont have much to comment on it, if you want comments maybe ask a specific question relating to it

the reason your post now is getting replies is because people have opinions on it

>>6285532
It's an ok piece in general, but the head of the character seems a bit too broad. Part of that impression is due to the placement of the shadow on his right cheekbone. The edge of the lit part of that plane should be a bit closer to his eye (specifically, nearly below the outer corner of the eyebrow), otherwise, that cheekbone would end up looking excessively pronounced.

However, just pushing the shadow a little to the front of the face is not enough, since then you'll end up giving your character a very wide head if seen in profile; therefore, you should also move his hair along with the shadow, until the front of the skull seems of a more adequate width (pic related).

Lastly, if we take perspective into account, the head of his pickaxe-hammer should be bigger, since in the current picture it's looks too small and fragile.

Todays 5 min figure drawings
My head hurts so I know I had an effective session

>>6285675
> but the head of the character seems a bit too broad.
Oh yeah I see that now.
Regarding the battlehammer, they're that small.

>>6285663
it's probably boring / low engagement
art is partly visual communication, so it will suffer if you have nothing interesting to say

Can I charge 20 bucks for this?

>>6285708
I SELECTED THE FUCKING IMAGE FUCK YOU CHROME

>>6285535
Ah, that is fair and cool, I'm in the same boat. Anywhere I can follow and see more of this tho?

>>6285532
>>6285691
The main problem I have is
>no helmet
>no armor
>no primary weapon
>no light armor
you basically drew a dude in his pajama's carrying an M60

>>6285715
https://www.deviantart.com/screeble/gallery/62271545/mundus-carnis

It is pretty unorganized atm and has tons of shit I consider "outdated" as my ideas for the setting have outpaced the older drawings.

how do i stop feeling like i'll never be able to outpace AI with my current pathethic skills and meagre improvement?

>>6285713
yes of course you can

>>6285741
Yea I guess but I think I have bigger issue's besides how realistic the character would be,

Just a w.i.p rn but does the composition look ok?

Revisited Akihito Yoshitomi. If your aren't familiar with this playlist, I recommend it as an alternate "constructive anatomy" system, or at least professional example.

I did that as long as I could stand and then did this. It's, like most of my work, marginally better than the ones before it. The only thing I really leaned here was how much easier the parts of the body I just practiced constructing were vs the ones I just winged.
I need to go through the whole playlist and see how much faster and more actually I can draw the whole figure.

>>6285819
The playlist
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_
It's worth a look, ignore my drawing, it's got nothing to do with it, really.

>>6285708
$20 is like nothing these days.

>>6285799
Yep.
A bit scaleless but i guess you going for it,

I have used full no ref power level in this draft

Skipped the last thread because it had the brony garbage as the ops image. Now we back to comfy

what am i looking at

I'm not used to digital. I'm not sure what the right flow and smoothing settings would be. And I don't know how to use pressure opacity brushes properly.

First time using CSP and screentones (and a pressure sensitive inking brush)
I've fucked it up hard on the suit but it's ok for a first time

>>6286042
Have you thought about making animations? I feel like your style might be good for it maybe desu

Greetings begs, how are you holding up?

>>6285970
Godlike. I kneel. If this is how fucking up looks like i cant even guess how great the "not fucked up" piece will be
>>6285751
AI has no soul, no direction, no message and it definitely cannot draw concepts which dont have clear tags or description. And NODRAW normies definitely wont have patience nor knowhow how to coax AI into producing something worthwhile. Sure AI will cut rendering from 8 hours to 30 minutes but you still want to know how to fix the details and how to draw hands. Quality over quantity so to speak
>>6285663
If you want (You)s just ask for crit. Plenty of crabs will then proceed to destroy you, me included
>>6285713
Respectable artist would charge like 50 to 100$ for such picture. But hey its all about demand and supply (and brand).

Hey /beg/, I've posted here before but I don't do it often, basically I'm not that good at drawing girls so every now and then I practice drawing them, I'd appreciate any opinions on this one I drew today

>>6285474
>>6285511
>>6285532
>>6285535
>>6285749
Cool peeps
>>6285741
>pajama
>nuh uh!
He was going for the realistic medieval setting

This face took me forever to line up properly on the head. It's still not where I'd like it, but I have to go to bed.
The better the rest of the anatomy gets, the more accurate my faces need to be.
I feel like tomorrow I got to go back and do head and face rotation exercises all over again.
This looks too creepy and took way too long.

>>6286121
Ok. Baloony schizo.
6286071
>mass reply looking for you
Desperate

>>6286126
>Schizo
Me or the picture?
I said it was creepy. This process is going to take a while. There are going to be some fucked up drawings.

>>6286131

I feel like I fucked up somewhere

does anybody whose anybody even use the motherfucking Loomis method? or it's just a bunch of literal whos pandering a load of SHIT??? cause I've been watching high-level pro artist videos and streams for years and never seen a single one use any Loomis Methods TM. seems more like a cult quite honestly

>>6286145
Loomis heads are the only thing I see used frequently, and usually people adapt them a bit.

>>6286134
Based on?

Can someone tell me what's wrong with my proportions and how I can fix them?

First episode of my comic. Wip

>>6286145
Loo miss is just a guy. The process of using guidelines to construct anatomy is old. Professionals will stop using them when they become so accustom to certain forms they don't need them all the time. And there's no one way to do it.
Check out this guy>>6285820. He has a method that's similar, bit distinctly different. If you look at different videos you see her doesn't even stay with one method, and frequently uses no guidelines at all on his longer videos.

>>6286165
How long have you been drawing?

>>6286165
Weird to do it in that order, but ok.

>>6285829
>big beast
>small angle witch for scale
>scaless
nta, but huh??????????

>>6285764
nice
>>6285825
Is it really? I don't want to sell my shit under value

Also I'm really pleased with how this is coming out

>>6286143
>tranime face proportions

What should I exactly study/copy? I was thinking I should copy anatomy. Biggest problem is that im not truly analytical or smart.

>>6286192
Why don't you ask /salt/ instead? Those fags have actually done some coommissions before.

>>6286163
There are a ton of videos and systems for this. Pick like two of them you can stand and grind them out.
They go on about this book so much it's got to have something on the subject.

>>6286214
Where do you find this book?

>>6286077
yeah if you want realistic you need a helmet at tthe minimum.
And a Shield is often the choice for the poorer soldiers.
Seeing how he gave him a weapon with little metal his character is likely not too rich.
without a helmet youd be dead in seconds
without a shield the short, top heavy weapon would be a death sentence

>>6286214
It's weird. For years people have been telling me to study anatomy, then as soon as I start studying anatomy suddenly they tell me that it's proportions that I need to focus on. It's like they don't want me to focus on one thing at a time. I don't understand proportions because I literally am using Hogarth proportions, so they must either mean something else. Nobody is giving me a redline anymore so I don't get it.
I'll give Keys to Sucking a chance after I start getting consistent ints on the power level thread. Right now I'm getting low begs again (weird downgrade from mid-begs last month). I'm studying Marvel Way to Draw.

>>6286218
It's "keys to drawing" and there's probably a PDF in the sticky or somewhere. They push out in this thread like it's the book of Mormon.

>>6286201
Copy the things you enjoy AND anatomy while at it.
>Biggest problem is that im not truly analytical or smart.
You don't have to be either, just make sure to remember what those things look like and try to do something with them, ie - Drawing a pose from another angle, what that muscle would look like in another pose, etc

>>6286222
It's this pic real or cg?

>>6286226
I vaguely remember there was megas of pose references. I really want to unflatten my stuff. Artist I like to copy from or I enjoy are dudes like.
>Mike Allred
>Mike Wieringo
>John Romita sr and jr
>Yusuke Kozaki
>Steve Ditko
I really want a blocky but very fast motion wise action cartoon style.

>>6286143
You fucked up a lot of things. I couldn't redline it because the pose was too awkward.

Aside from the pose, and I get what you were going for, the issues are:

>arms too short
>her left leg isn't coming out of the hip properly
>her left butt cheek is sticking out further than it should which really makes the pose awkward

You're almost there. Study natural poses. This one feels like it's from imagination and you're not quite there yet.

>>6286175
I hate vertical scroll but I'm uploading it to webtoon

>>6286174
"Seriously" for 2 years, i haven't really picked up a book or watched any yt vids, just been eyeballing it lol, why?

>>6286250
How did you get so good at drawing hands?

>>6285532
>>6285543
>>6285675
>>6285691
>>6285741
>>6285768
>>6286077
>>6286221
https://youtu.be/GXD9A1OLvEk
just watch a few of this guy's videos on armor.
Maybe try Matt Easton and Todd's Workshop or even just visit a medieval reenactmenr group.
Often armor made them look quite silly.
Like chainmail, it would have a soft under layer of fabric and it made the head look bigger and rounder and it would also be strapped around the mouth.
Chainmail was a lot tighter fitting than in the movies and movie armor often is not to be effective but to show who the hero is.
weirdly enough, it is usually the extras who are dressed correctly and the hero who looks like he woke up too late and rushed to the battlefield with half his clothes on and often not even a helmet or shield.

>>6286222
the black girl in these photos really ruined them for me.
Why tf is she so ugly?

>>6286256
It's just a reference you coomtard.

>>6286163
They're not consistent. HER right arm is too short, but her left arm is too long. Her head is also slightly too big. If you measured her in heads, her torso is only 3 heads tall where I think generally 4 heads is the proper sizing.

Also just going into anatomy, her legs are really thin, but her arms are much thicker.

>>6286253
You think my hands are well drawn?? Wtf lmao. I basically just spam references

>>6286201
I imagine you like cartoons. So just look into drawing those. They use the same techniques as real anatomy, except it's much simpler and over time you could just switch to real anatomy.

For clothes, considering a poncho that wraps around the machine hmm

>>6285970
How did you learn to hatch so well?

>>6286299
I like this but what the fuck is up with the hands

I'm going to try painting a cute fox with this little kit I found. My first time painting. I'll report back when it's done anons!

>>6286222
Very interesting how their hips position vary although they're the same height

>>6286345
That’s one of the reason why whites and Asians dominate Olympic powerlifting while blacks dominate sprinting and bodybuilding

>>6286339
> ages 6+

bro

>>6286259
I am not talking about cooming, it is weird they often pick ugly black women.

My tablet doesn't let me right click

>>6286331
I'm a lazy sketcher, reference for my models :')

>>6286375
It's the cheapest art kit here for like three dollars and I'm bored lol. Also don't let such notions restrict you anon, if you want to paint a cute fox then paint one!

How much smoothing do you use? About 10%?

>>6286192
Bro listen, I assume you are talking commissions.
You are not "selling your shit." Commission, by definition, is not "selling a product" it is "providing a service." Two distinct legal transactions. A commission is about someone hiring you, your expertise and your time to perform work on their behalf. You are paid for your expertise and time, not the end product that has been created.

>>6286372
Nice nonsense

Work in progress

>>6286275
Thanks anon the twisting helped.
How would you redraw this? I drew it when I was feeling the form and I forgot how I did it.

>>6286233
Goddamn it. Thanks
Now i have to draw another pose

>>6286143
How long have you been drawing?

>>6286459
Paint some actual eyes then come back

>>6286165
I think that you have achieved a good sense of flow. That said, have you considered flipping the first and last panels in order to appreciate the change in the directions followed by your gaze?

I personally believe that if you inverted them, the gaze of the viewer, by following the left-to-right direction of the steps of first girl, would come across the face of the second one in a more direct way.

I would also suggest that you experiment with flipping the last panel, mostly to give a sense of symmetry, as well as in order to break the pattern established by the middle ones, and to try to convey a sense of back and forth, as if the gaze of the viewer was sliding down a zigzag line.

I had some expectations
at least I tried

>>6286486
your body is very strong. I think you could practice your eyes a bit though, maybe add eyelashes and some iris / highlights designs.

>>6286299
I think you should increase the size of that ear just a little bit, until its upper border reaches more or less the height of the eyebrow.

Besides that, I feel that your picture has potential. I'm particularly curious to see what you will do with all that hair; please, keep us updated.

coming from vilppu this feels so wrong

>>6286409
so up the game and add more detail?

>>6286299
Were you by any chance inspired by the manga "Clover" by CLAMP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01xbvbbSyvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01xbvbbSyvc

>>6286299
Were you by any chance inspired by the manga "Clover" by CLAMP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01xbvbbSyvc

>>6286508
What causes the forms to be so scribbly? I have the same issue going on in this post and feel like no matter what I do when I try to draw over gesture, the forms I do look so bad despite it being the only thing I practice at times. I feel like I can get the gesture lines fine like this guy, but I can't build on top of it and it's been demotivating me for a long while.

>>6286459
I think that you should increase the size of that ear just a little bit, until its upper border reaches more or less the height of the eyebrow.

Besides that, I feel that your picture has potential. I'm particularly curious to see what you will do with all that hair; please, keep us updated.

>>6286516
I mean I draw the gesture first and then the mannikin over it, so you are seeing two sets of lines. The rest is just confusion in placing the rib cage in space, up to this point I've just been drawing boxes for the pelvis and rib cage a la vilppu so theres some resistance going on.

>>6286518
don't stop Vilppu, just use the mannikin to inform your figures!

WIP
Going to take a shit

>>6286051
yeah but im scared of trying XDDDD

X3

>>6286514
Wasn't thinking of anything in particular, brain just spaghetti'd it out before sleep and I had the notion to wake back up to scribble it out. But yea, I suppose it is pretty reminiscent of those 00's winged anime girls.

>>6286511
I'm still totally new but I'm open to trying that. Maybe I can make the sky have more depth or something. Good idea anon!

>>6286525
>he doesn't draw on the shitter
ngmi

gesture drawings

>>6286551
stiff

>>6285820
Looks cool.
>>6285853
Nice looks good
>>6285867
Brony?
It was just a smithy, did I miss something there?
>>6286077
Thanks man!
>>6286255
Allright I'll give them a look later.
I just copied the reference here though
Who know he might've woken up to a night raid and not have time to pick everything up?

I genuinly do appreciate people looking at and criticizing my piece thanks everyone!

>>6286486
the rest is neat but i don't think you can bend your foot inward like that....

>>6286339
>>6286409
The eternal beg trap is coloring books, bros.
>beglet cannot draw simple cartoon blob animals
>what is Fun with a Pencil
>buys kindergarten level paint kit
>mocked, rightfully so
>"guys I just wanna paint a cute fox ok?! Omg it's 6 AND UP stop being so judgemental"
>three months later anon will be showing off his completed MLP and Frozen coloring books
>ensue coloringbook-schizo saga

>>6286568
remove stick from ass
>>6286409
nice fox bro, hope you had fun

>>6286471
A year and 3 months.

>>6286573
Thanks I just wanted something basic to do while sitting here at work for eight hours doing nothing. Literally first time I ever painted so it was more about getting used to how a brush handles and how paint interacts with a canvas.

>>6286071
thank you. don't get me wrong it's still one of the best finished drawings I've made, but it's objective that I got sloppy in some places.
>>6286309
Thanks, I don't think I've made a good job with the hatching in this piece but as I said it was my first time with a non-retarded brush so it's fine.
the short answer is practice and feel the form, the longer answer is a post I made a while back (someone poste here >>6269305 again)
also here is a process thingy I've made because it looks cool and you can also see when I started messing things up

>>6286579
Lol wtf, what kind of work do you do?

>>6286584
tysm i will study that image religiously

>>6286585
I'm guarding some plants. It's night shift so I literally just sit here and post or find random things to kill the time. I liked it at first but it gets insanely boring doing this every night. I do wish I had better stuff to show you as well.

>>6286375
6 PLUS not up to 6

>>6286545
fuck your right

how fucked am i brehs
left is only human reference, no drawn/stylized references
right is direct reference from haratake
do i have any hope... i'm obviously /beg/ and left is incomplete, but the style isn't quite what i want to go for. I don't know what I can produce outside of just copying artists i like

>>6286575
Oh sweet, you're pretty much the same as me.
What's your power level? I'm still low beg.

>>6286603
You know, you should stop caring about others' performance.
Everyone moves at their own pace. Just stay disciplined

Is Gesture a meme?

>>6286600
Find apiece you like, then find a pose you like
Try and draw the character in that pose
It's what I'm doing, adding bits and pieces here and there.

>>6286608
maybe

>>6286409
>>6286597
>I'm guarding some plants. It's night shift so I literally just sit here and post or find random things to kill the time. I liked it at first but it gets insanely boring doing this every night. I do wish I had better stuff to show you as well.

>>6286608
Kind of. Don't bother with it if you don't understand at least basics of anatomy.

>>6286628
just noticed the table was floating

>>6286628
kek

>>6286233
nice catch on pic rel but you removed all the appeal from the original pose

>>6286163
i dont get it, how can people fuck up things like arms being different lengths and not see it
no bully I just honestly think people see it but erroneously ask for advice because that takes less effort than redrawing

>>6286463
anon hate to break it to you but you are biting off WAY more than you can chew right now
take it slow and don't ask anons to draw it for you
unironically learn perspective and form

>>6286628
Holy shit how'd you do that so fast. This must be what a real artist can do. Thanks anon.

>>6286599
my right .... what?

>>6286657
>replying to schizo-kun
don't waste your time

>>6286439
Thanks, I never looked at it that way. Isn't there that saying about "youre not paying for the time it took to do the work but the years it took to get so good at it" or smth like that.

>>6286463
Cringe zoomer. I bet you have brocolli hair.

Not thrilled with this one. Feels like a regression.

>>6286657
I have studied gesture and form.
I completed Drawabox, and studied an entire book on perspective (Space Drawing by Kim DongHo).
If that doesn't make me ready then what will? What did you do to meet the requirements?
I am simply asking what's wrong with the drawing. It looks similar to >>6286486 so I shouldn't be too far off? Why is he ready and not me?

>>6286683
Funny because I'm older than you and have far more life experience than you ever will in your life.

>>6286655
Lmao, the arms are at different lengths and sizes because of foreshortening, retard. Stop acting like a know-it-all I've been drawing longer than you.

>>6286730
>I have studied gesture and form.
Meant perspective and form*, but yes I studied gesture.

Ok I need advice about how to apply highlights, because at the moment I can safely say I don't know what I'm doing

>>6286719
I personally love that composition and colours

>>6286486
hot

>>6286745
Thanks.

With your image, I can't touch on highlights much but the actual drawing looks like it was stretched horizontally. She looks very wide, but not necessarily thicc

>>6286719
I like you're style alot keep it up!
Hope this helps a bit.
Your enviroments are great just your proportions are off on the sirens.

How do you really unflatten your drawings and learn to draw from different angles fast?

>>6286745
I'm no expert but I'll give my two cents
The highlights need to be toned down, alot
That's metla shine you have, the skin isn't that shiny unless she's covered in sunscreen or something but even then the color of the skin will bleed through and it won't be harsh white.

>>6286755
I really struggled with that middle-ground siren. Back angles are a weakness for me in a big way.

Alright so I was copying off the proportions page trying to get proportions right and discovered it was really hard.
I got it better by eyeballing than using a ruler. When I decided to use a ruler, it was 100x worse than any of these (I had to erase the whole thing).
Is there a trick to get these proportions right?

>>6286409
based

>>6286786
Practice

>>6286775
>Back angles are a weakness for me in a big way.
probably because you neglected your anatomy lessons on the back

>>6286816
I need more specific advice.
Why does it turn out worse when I use the ruler? I determined that the pecs end at roughly a head's width on each side and even then it turned out an abomination.
"Practice" isn't advice if I've been practicing for 2 years. Is this meant to be eyeballed or rulered?

>>6286820
You've only been practicing for a few weeks at best
Previous ones were digital so they don't count at all
You're basically starting over
5 more years of grinding rocks until you feel it looks good (but it won't look good to other)

>>6286786
>>6286820
Flail aimlessly more, esdeathtard, your pathetic pointless attempts legitimately entertain me

>>6286828
>>6286830
Cope, seethe, dilate, samefag.

>>6286517
I will increase the size of the ear, noticed. I will keep you updated, thanms for the interest.

>>6286745
Anon here is how you think of it logically. You pick the direction for the main light and those parts that face the light direction should have the highlight spots and be generally bright. Those that face away from the light spot especially perpendicularly will not get hit by the light rays of the main light. There can be secondary light sources and/or reflected lights that will still illuminate them but they do not nee highlight spots.

Sorry for destroying the tattoos but they were in the way of over painting.

>>6286459
needs MORE POWER and more MOTIVATED!

>>6286830
I wouldnt be surprised esdeath takes on multiple forms in every board. It is fucking scary and mentally deranged.

>>6286557
>Who know he might've woken up to a night raid and not have time to pick everything up?
That could be a scenario but it would be more likely he would be grabbing a shield and the hammer and not a belt and cloth under armor.
>Not doing this to be annoying
I remember reading "The Phoenix on the Sword" and (not spoiling) there is a scene where Conan is lacking armor and it costs him.
He gets stabbed where he is unprotected.

Also it is quite cool if a Leader or King is in the midst of battle, covered in mud and blood, indistinguishable from ordinary soldiers due to losing his horse and shield, meanwhile his men are trying to find him having to choose between losing the battle or their King.
Maybe too much detail isnt needed for your goal, but just in case.
Btw what were you making this >>6285532 for?
If you answered already just link the answer.

>>6286632

>>6286943
>Btw what were you making this >>6285532 (You) for?
You mean what my goal is with this art?
I'm going to do animation in this style.

>I remember reading "The Phoenix on the Sword"
Conan is really good I like it too.

>be more likely he would be grabbing a shield and the hammer
Sure, unless you're sleepdrunk or something either way it doesn't matter imo

>>6286463
I guess I'd draw it like this. Worst part of this one was you drew her right (our left) shoulder too short/close to the body. The other issue is her face, but drawing upwards shots of faces gives everyone trouble because you don't get the jawline to help frame the face and it looks weird.

>>6286762
Your art makes me think of the Bakshi Hobbit movie.

>>6286969
Verry based.
It's actually from The Banner Saga games but in interviews they say that's one of their influences.
So thank you!

>>6287032
Oh you know that's the other influence I was trying to think of. Yeah you're on the right track. Keep working on anatomy and you'll have some really cool art.

>>6286233
you've actually made it worse. The only serious issue the original pic had was a lack of sense of depth and lack of accuracy in rigid proportions. (anime face too off).

How do you go about learning to accurately draw repeating lace/frill type stuff on clothing in perspective? Does Scott Robertson have something that would help?

>>6286969
>the Bakshi Hobbit movie
Spot on and Heavy Metal 1981 too
>major boobage episode of South Park has a reference to the movie
>>6286956
>>6286956
>I'm going to do animation in this style.
Nice! try and make it bloody when needed :)
>Conan is really good I like it too.
Robert E. Howard is one of my favorites
>>6286956
>Sure, unless you're sleepdrunk or something either way it doesn't matter imo
Fair enough.

is it a team effort that you like do the art work and another the dialogue and another the story?

>>6286542
I'll post my Gondola's and stuff so you can get some Low Art IQ ideas from a newbie like yourself.
i made this image a year or so ago and i tried to copy a picture i saw of a floating wine bottle and i thought of "message in a bottle" and instead of a message it is a Gondola.

>>6286542
made this one late last year i think

>>6286542
I also used MSpaint and drew most of it in a small pixelated version and expanded it then cleaned it up a bit to make it look decent, but i cant draw fer shid lol

you did inspire me to go buy cheap painting supply stuff for kids to practice lol
just gonna flip over the canvas if the print is too visible

>>6287040
>Yeah you're on the right track. Keep working on anatomy and you'll have some really cool art.
For sure, wagmi
>>6287076
>is it a team effort that you like do the art work and another the dialogue and another the story?
I'm just out here fucking around and finding out.
I have a small booklet with ideas for stories though.

>>6286745
Watch this short video. It's pretty handy. "A reflection of the light source, that's a highlight."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_U9SIOmyjY

>>6287041
Uh huh, okay guy in beginner thread who doesn't draw. Uh huh.

>>6287106
If the story doesnt matter too much for you just copy something from a writer you like that writes short stories and change names and locations.
in Dutch they say
>Better to steal something decent than to create your very own crap
or like the English say "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
I prefer the dutch version.
>I have a small booklet with ideas for stories though.
Same, well i have a few notebooks full of them but to be fair some are only 4-5 lines of what the story is about like
>dude goes to store and buys apple
because i have the rest of it in my memory.
Like when I went to the store in high school and everybody bought junkfood and this one kid bought nothing but an apple every time.
Not because he couldnt buy other stuff, he just liked apples.
Thought it was neat.

>>6287116
Hah you're Dutch?
Same.

>>6287116
Btw I think me understanding of anatomy is good enough it's just the feel and flow of the body that's hard if you're not working off a good reference.
This one is no ref
Having a good feel of the clothing is hard too imo

>>6287093
Beautiful

>>6286865
Beautiful. Thanks man

>>6286730
Kek lmao you have shown zero understanding of perspective despite reading your zoom zoom book in a day. Good job you have achieved nothing in the last 2 years.

>>6286844
Hi, I'm the same anon that you replied to.

Upon further inspection, it turns out that you will actually need to enlarge the ear significantly more that I had originally anticipated. I think that I was somewhat distracted by your overall good rendering, so I didn't really notice the extent of the flaw; I guess you can take that as a compliment.

Ideally, the ear would have to be larger by a third (pic related), if not even more, so that its length is properly encompassed by the distance between the eyebrows and the base of the nose.

What should I do to improve? ;-;

>>6287254
i like it, but it's lacking in form, proportions and appeal
the answer is to just draw more

>>6286865
Thanks m8, good shit

I'm trying to figure out CSP's perspective ruler tool because I'm mentally handicapped at perspective but I can never get it right, the size is never correct.

I see people make a grid floor to attach their characters to but I can never get the grid low enough?

>>6287368
wtf you mean low enough? that grid goes to the bottom of the page.

>>6287396
Yeah but the "floor" is as high as his waist because of the perspective. I can't use it to connect him to the ground if I were using it in a drawing.

>>6286961
Thanks, that seems right. How did you do that?

>>6287224
You are aware perspective isn't limited to landscapes right? Figure it out yourself. If I wasn't aware of perspective how do you think I drew this, retard? Try harder.

Want to draw but also don't want to draw, what do

>>6286961
By how did you do that I meant what perspective rules did you use. I recall using some kind of gesture/perspective when I drew that pic then I forgot.

>>6287403
>symbol drawing in perspective.

>>6287443
Funny how you keep recommending me an observoid book like KtD to stop le "symbol drawing". It's almost like you invented the constructoid me to prevent me from finding out that "constructoidism" is the key to end it.

>>6287403
esdeath anon, how long are you spending on your drawings? Are you drawing from reference? When you draw from ref, how long do you spend on each drawing?

I think you need to start spending 20-30 minutes on a single drawing. Use a kneaded eraser to lighten your lines, so you can make the drawing in multiple layers. Slow down and really observe. Every point, line, shape, angle, negative space, etc. needs to be carefully considered. Every line should be carefully checked and compared to the reference. "3 looks, 2 thinks, 1 application."

>>6287455
Nope no reference. Not even >>6286463
used a reference, that's how much perspective and anatomy is helping me. I grinded observation to the point where beg started accusing me of tracing, so I think my observation is top-notch now.
I will only use reference to check out how the limbs bending affect the surrounding areas, I think. For example the armpits.
People have been telling me to work on proportions, why is that? How can I do this better? >>6286786
Thanks anon.

>>6287454
but if you draw what you actually observe then you literally won't be symbol drawing... fucking dumb ass. you can get past symbol drawing with construction too, but it's going to be harder for a dipshit like you who can't even copy something accurately, why would you think you can construct something if you can't even copy it without falling back on symbols? shit makes no sense

>>6287459
Pyw. Here's mine. No measuring, only eyeball.
Observoidism is just mindless xeroxing. The only thing you gain from it is sore shoulders, pointless. After I drew >>6287458 I'm satisfied with my observation unless you offer something new to learn.

Doodling while watching a movie

>>6287461
>not going to admit i spend less than 10 minutes on my drawings kek I'll just avoid the question by diverting the attention away from me.

>>6287458
if you're satisfied with that, then you're fucking lost and suffering from dunning-kruger and you prob need about 1000 more hours of observation drawing from references before you construct anything worth a fuck

>>6287465
Retard read the filename. >>6286463
>afraid to pyw
Yep, I think I'm going to ignore this observoid.

>>6287467
Lmao let's see your one hour portrait with charcoal. I was literally accused of tracing what about you anon? Have you been accused of tracing before? Doubt it.

>>6287458
>>6287469
>accused of tracing
YO LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

I really don't get gestures. Some books say
>just copy the motion and intent of the pose
others say
>capture the anatomy and proportions correctly
Then you watch a video and someone literally constructs the figure from scratch. I don't know how to proceed and I feel like I waste my time with near schizo sketches.
I'm currently reading Hampton's Figure Drawing book but that one requires you to properly understand anatomy, perspective and construction. Am I supposed to be studying all of it at once?

>>6287076
>>6286969
Bakshi film is all rotoscoped. It's basically traced. Some of the shots are unintentionally bad and came out too dark because someone fucked up.
He never finished because it drive him temporarily insane. Imagine filming a live action epic in Spain while directing a feature length animated film in the states in the days of land line phones only...

>>6287473
>>6287465
>>6287467
So, no work? As expected.

>>6287476
Anon I also studied Hampton but felt it was really lacking. I needed perspective to construct but Hampton didn't teach that effectively. I only realized the usefulness of gesture after I learned perspective. I suggest Drawabox and Marvel Way to Draw. That's how I drew this, a bit stiff but this one used gesture and it only took me 10 mins >>6286463 I use gesture to get rid of the stiffness.

>>6287458
>>6287461
You will NEVER get good at drawing if you don't draw from reference you fucking idiot. I say this out of love, not hate, PLEASE STUDY. (Your tiger sucks btw). Construction and reference aren't mutually exclusive, you fucking need to draw from ref to learn construction.

>>6287480
I know you mean well, but you're objectively wrong and I can prove it. How did I draw >>6287403 without a ref? Trust me, there's nothing wrong with it other than the hands. If I had a tablet and cleaned it up it would easily be a high beg to int drawing and you know it.
If you are saying I need to draw from reference to learn about anatomy then I've been doing that for 2 years already. Hogarth says you can draw WITHOUT reference. I'm gonna need you to pyw (1 with reference overlay sample, has to be more accurate than >>6287458 and 2 from imagination/construction).

>>6287480
Mate, give up.
Let him be retarded.

how did you make a shitty drawing without using reference? what kind of question is that?

>>6287485
>there's nothing wrong with it other than the hands
literally WHAT?

>>6287485
>How did I draw >>6287403 without a ref? Trust me, there's nothing wrong with it other than the hands.
you're trolling, right? I'm never drawing over your work again.

>>6287485
Where's his dick?

>>6287488
This is kinda entertaining. I hate drawing references myself, but you do got to do it now and again. It is faster learning, but harder. As a zero pressure hobbyist I draw badly from imagination because it's more fun, but when it gets boring I bite the bullet and draw a reference, usually an object and not a photo. I had drawing photos, it feels so redundant. There's already a picture.

>>6287490
Oh, so you are >>6286961 huh?
I was thankful for you for reminding me that the torso twists but other than that I was being respectful to you because you were a fellow beg trying to help.
If you're gonna be a part-time crab then I'm not gonna hold back punches. Sorry but you barely improved my drawing, barely nothing changed other than the face which was supposed to be like that anon. In other words my drawing was fine, and you used observoid techniques to reconstruct it instead of using the perspective techniques I asked for. I'll surpass you in no time.
(You also used digital, which is cheating)

>>6287497
This needs to be a pasta

>>6287497
>swinging in the dark like a blind boxer
your ego will be the death of you

Anyway, here you can see me getting tired. I'm drawing from reference, and then drawing my drawing. It gets shittier as I tire.
I think I'd like to do this again later and take more time with it, only doing the outside of the drawn sketchbook, and finishing it in stages.
Feel free to copy this. I'd love to see your takes on the concept.

what an absolute mindfuck, this is all the same colour, the hair looks red but its actually blue

>>6287507
This guy is living proof that accuracy and observation are the most important fundamentals.

Just started a month ago, what step do I follow to avoid ending up like Esdeath anon? So far I have worked through Fun with a pencil and Drawing on the right side of the brain. Now started Michael Hampton figure drawing which starts with gestures, is it too early for me to be doing that?

>>6287514
Context? It looks desaturated violet to me.

>>6287518
Gesture is a giga beg trap. Gesture is important, just not as a beginner.
Read
>>6287517
To avoid becoming like him

Salutation BEG. Today it was okay day.

>>6287476
I cant help you with your book and i am in no position to say with any certainty what gesture is or isnt. BUT i can tell you one thing for sure: you wont get gud at X without drawing the said X. NaturalWayToDraw says you have to grind it out and that is same exact opinion from KeysToDrawing and RightSideOfBrain books. Good luck and shitton of patience anon!
>>6287462
How can you keep attention to drawing while having visual stimulus? I tried it few times and it always ended up with me not drawing.
>>6287461
Very nice tiger.
>>6287254
Composition: you generally dont want to put the main object in dead middle unless you have interesting stuff elsewhere. Keys to Drawing has whole chapter about it.
Tones: You are scared of using darker tones. This gives the image a very weird look. The image would pop like crazy if the planets or sky was darker. Or the ground. Or The shadows. Turn your pic into grayscale to see what i am talking about. You want to use whole value spectrum, not just light gray.
Shadows: barely visible, the crates behind her beg for some. And so does her figure
>>6287116
>Better to steal something decent than to create your very own crap
I kneel before Dutch superiority
>>6286766
>unflatten
render shadows, draw through the forms, use illusion of depth (perspective) by putting extra (bigger) objects in front (or smaller behind), foreshortening
>>6286608
most likely yes
>>6286600
Decent, cuteish, not fucked at all. Finish your art anon!
>>6286074
Apart from the obvious (picking same main color for background AND object AND all details) its good. You got lazy and didnt render properly her forms like fingers, neck and such. Dont be lazy anon!

>>6287521
should I drop hampton, or continue on with his figure drawing to learn more anatomy? Or should I just do more drawing random stuff for a month from observation?

>>6287518
>So far I have worked through Fun with a pencil
You finished the book within a month? You copied every image? You redid all the drawings you thought you could do better? You applied the concepts to reference drawing and imagination drawing?

Really?

Please check yourself into the hospital for tendonitis, because that's not possible for a beginner in a month. Really, you skipped a lot of the book and called it "done". That's exactly how you end up like Esdeath-kun. Please go through the courses and books carefully and do everything exactly as you're told. That is the fastest way to improve. That is also what most people don't have the discipline to do, which is why they stagnate and regress.

Essay fin

>>6287518
reflect on your own stuff with a critical eye
post your work and analyze the feedback you get

>>6287522
>he fell for the futa meme and consequently became a schizo
you were the chosen one... the one who was gmi

>>6287517
I mean, it starts out accurate. I just get tired. This shit is draining to me.
I think I did a good job on this>>6286214
For a beg doing a goof it's pretty close to the actual cover.
I did this the other day and no one said shit one way or the other

>>6287521
I don't think you realize I'm not the same guy

>>6287530
Hey anon, you could really afford to go through this: https://youtu.be/22XYoenU-0c

Everyone thinks they're too advanced for this, but give it a try anyways.

>>6287530
Reference
BTW, what's this from? Anyone know?

>>6287532
Are you the guy that posted the hands? I thought you were esdeath fag.

CUBE

>>6287535
Maybe, I'm working on this right now
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_
Less annoying talking.
Maybe when I'm done or sick of Akihito

>>6287537
First of all, that guy is based, even if cringe. He's part of board culture.
Second, no I'm not him.

>>6287519
i meant the context is just her body is cooler than the hair so it fucks with the brain making the blue seem red, that line of colour is all one colour, the mind is being fucked and make it look like it change colour

>>6287547
Her skin is greenish blue and the hair is desaturated violet, at least to me on my phone.
Coming here from a miniature painting background, let me tell you something, magenta is your friend and violet/fuchsia/purple are fucking magical. Not to shit on digital art, but y'all need to study physical paint a minute.

>>6287551
>violet
its just blue bro

>>6287542
if you're doing that, make sure to copy his drawings too, as accurately as possible

>abu still hasn't restocked
Bros... It's almost diaper season (autumn/winter) why are they taking so long?

>>6287555
Wrong tab I thought this was /aco/

>>6287552
As I said, not to me on my phone

>>6287559
yeah you just posted the exact same colour haha, crazy how much screens effect colour though, why you should really test your art on different screen

anyways its coming together fellow /begs/

>>6287560
pls ignore hand i will redo

>>6287554
I'm prioritizing keeping up over accuracy, but it's coming out pretty close. It's in my work sketchbook and I don't have it handy, but it's nothing special.
I've found trying to keep up in real time makes me learn faster than trying to do it perfect and slow. At least for me, for now.

>>6287479
Anon, aren't you too permabeg to request other's work? Like, who the fuck do you think you are? Let's just say the skill gap between you and me is too high and that there are many people better than me. Let's just leave it at that.

>>6287565
>'m prioritizing keeping up over accuracy
nothing wrong with doing that, then pausing the video once he's done, to draw it again, with accuracy :)

Anyways, speed catches up later. Accuracy really is more important

>>6287536
Probably from Hyouka.

>>6287560
It's all good. One of the reasons I've given up(at least temporarily) on mini painting is that the shit doesn't show up on my phone camera. I've confirmed this with independent observers, there's details you can't see. Magenta comes out brown. It sucks.

Any critiques on this pose? I know some things off with the bent leg but I can't identify it.

>>6287575
>phoneposting a tablet
Man zoomers really do be illiterate.

Is there any good artist that do the slightly cartoony action artstyle that are good to study/copy off of?

Any critiques on this pose? I know some things off with the bent leg but I can't identify it.

>>6287567
>who the fuck do you think you are?
I'm the one who posted work. You didn't. You are a nobody. That's an automatic loss here.

>>6287582
>>6287575
kek (and lel)

>>6287585
>I'm the one who posted work.
You posted a fucking forehead, beg.

>>6287593
Better than anything you (never) posted, that's for sure.

>>6287611
>I do art for myself, not for an arrogant shithole like you, stop drawing, no one needs to see such an shit.

>>6287611
nta but I've already posted my work. You just have to guess which one it is in /ic/. Goodluck wasting your time finding it.

>>6287585
>Hair, not well shaded, bad at all.
> eye, line out of place, eyebrow looks like an starving bird.
>Forehead.
>Mouth constructed just like an british.
>ear, too smal, out of place (must connect with nose and eyebrow).
>Ugly linework.
>No shadows, just some dirty spots (shadows?)
>The neck has no detail or form at all.
>perspective wack.

If you draw like this do not post it, please.

>>6287619
>>6287622
Excuses, excuses, excuses. There's always an excuse to not pyw. Afraid of getting mogged by tiger, huh?

>>6287630
Who made this cat?

Feel like I should have made the legs a bit bigger and maybe brought back some to align with the body?

>>6287630
>draws tiger
>threat level: tiger+
>tiger = Denji
>Denji is owned by Makima
>Makimafag

You didn't draw that tiger did you?

Are my proportions correct? This is Yuji Itadori btw.

Help me fix my proportions. I think the leg is off but I cant really identify wants actually wrong with it.

>>6287653
Why the fuck would you take a picture of the screen.

>>6287526
is it too early to post work if I still consider myself prebeg though?

>>6287642
No but I drew a Makima awhile back.

>>6287539
cute /beg/ gmi.

>>6287675
Do you have a blog I can follow?

One week on CSP. I'm still figuring out the best pencil settings. I dont feel confident to give advice to anyone, but I know you can make it anon!

protip: if you don't draw/study from references (life, photos, master/pro works), you are ngmi. again for the arrogant fucktards: if you only draw from imagination you are NEVER gmi. you're not a creative genius, you're not an exception. simple as. nuff said.

Help me fix my anatomy/proportions! plz

Help?

>>6287712
ayy a fellow lucy drawer, nice work fren

>>6287714
bro forget it, dont waste your time, these begs come in and out like a revolving door and the consistent retard beg belief is they think using a reference is cheating

>>6287718
>>6287720
no need to post so many times. This is how I would draw it. I made some pose suggestions on the right too, for a more dynamic pose.

>>6287736
>anon replying to a kiddo
Anon......

Had to fix him a bit

>>6287738
Half of it is wanting to help him, and the other half is solving an interesting perspective problem.

>>6287675
esdeath schizo look I did this for you

keep going you will make it

>>6287746
It looks worse you literally just made it more anime, imagine being mogged by esdeath

Ok I know this looks rough, but I'm just wondering if this looks right style wise or is this trash?

I'm going for more of a girly cartoony vibe

>>6287765
it's fine i'll scarifice my own pride for him :D

>>6287771
You really shouldn't be worrying about style at this point. Learn everything else and your style will more or less come from it.
As of now this looks more like a random scribble I'd see on a school desk than a proper style.

>>6287771
learn to walk before you run
aka, make it not look like shit and THEN worry about what kind of not shit you wanna do, no offence.

All it took me to draw clean lines was sharpening my pencil. So much for "dirty linework".
>>6287746
Thanks anon! You will make it too. Ignore the crabs, they are NGMI.

Am I studying right?

>>6287522
>cuteish
t-thanks anon i'll take it

>>6287479
you probably should study anatomy a lot more the proportions are really wonky

it's been a long fucking time since i've drawn a portrait, let alone draw. did this to get used to drawing on a tablet again.

holy shit captcha is now cancer

Second attempt on a ten minute figure after an anon told me to try out the Loomis mannikin. Think I'm going to forego temporarily the next chapters of Vilppu (tone and anatomy) to go do master studies for a few weeks.

>>6287983
I mean at least try to get the proportions/oritentation right if you are going to use a box form.

You can do better.

Drew this from imagination

I also made a quick Rebecca sketch

>>6288136
You forgot the nips lol

2 minute gesture practice.

Just going through proko's course on it at the moment.

>>6288152
its wild that this red-eyed gremlin is objectively best girl

>>6288160
if youre liking the course keep doing it, but I found Vilppu's approach (or hampton) to gesture a lot better than trying to draw perfect contour lines before one understands form/proportion/human anatomy. imo eviston and proko only do it convincingly because theyve drawn figures (from gesture to fully rendered) thousands of times, but its really an unfortunate instruction for a beg.

>>6288167
Mm, I agree with you but I think if I'm keeping in mind that I'm not needing to do ace anatomy before I learn it, I'll be okay.

>>6288153
I usually leave em out when I draw men.

NEW THREAD
>>6288260
>>6288260
>>6288260

>>6285903
Are you for real ):

>>6286051
that's not how it works, though. you can't just 'work' a style into animation. you have to adapt it in some way because the way it is animated is another art style on it's own.