/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6271324(cont)
Because it kinda feels like the next step up after photobashing and that technique also garnered a lot of hate back in the day.

>>6271324
For people who do conceptual art it will be useful, AI will generate several concepts from the same idea.

>>6271324
>>6271327
other way around. Your shitty scribble is going to be the base for the AI, which improves your shitty scribble, and then you adjust the prompt and repeat creating a feedback loop until you get what you want. Then, maaybe you'll do some minor manual touchups.

>>6271324
Which ai softare are these guys using?

>>6271324
Well unfortunately for new people it will be just like photo bashing where you still need to be quite competent to use the method effectivly.

You can spot a poorly photo bashed piece from a mile away and in some cases you need to ask yourself if you are saving any time using photobashing trying to hide something you had the skill to do already.

Maybe it can be used as an idea source or for generating random backgrounds for your characters but for the moment even random people on reddit can tell if a piece has been generated by an AI.

Could you spend enough time to cover up the AI tracks and make it look natural? Yeah but at that point you need to ask yourself if you could not have just done the same thing in the same time from scratch with your own skills.

Also the worst thing that can happen to someone when they photobash is they look at lots of phot reference and that is fine but prolonged sessions of staring at warped and twisted pictures.. well who knows how that will work out.

>>6271324
it already is, it is a time-saving method.

>>6271345
the shitty scribble was the best part of this

>>6271324
>>6271327
In concept art and such? yeah almost certainly. For regular artists/hobbyists almost certainly not. For illustrators? That's the wildcard - it could replace them, not effect them at all, or be forced into their workflow for the sake of speed to ensure they don't work more hours than their reduced pay allows.

>>6271345
>some minor manual touchups.
Seem to be some pretty big "touchups". Though it's hard to tell what the AI is doing and what the person is doing outside of the BIG changes that effect the overall image.

>Your shitty scribble is going to be the base for the AI
I imagine draftsmanship will be important for getting a more accurate and quick workflow.

>>6271345
How do we know from that gif on how much of a touch up was made by a human? Oh yeah we can't know.

>>6271345
you can see the soul vanishing with each subsequent frame

>>6271345
All versions of that face look like shit.

>>6271324
How over it is on the over scale?

>>6271324
wtf

>>6271324

that's not using it as base.

>>6271324
Not If you want to get any sort of appreciation for it.

>>6271556

I want the third photo in a different angle, background with the character wearing a different clothing.

Also can you draw just the head doing different facial expression?

>>6271493
None in that one.

>>6271556
>Nothing but Elsa fanart
>All just boring portraits
>Gnarled hands
>Artist signature in the corner
>Doesn't even actually look like Elsa in Half the images
>"How over it is on the over scale?"

We're barely picking up a reading sir.

But seriously; for all the claims that this democratised art and allows those with no skills in art to actualise their visions... Why is it such bland uncreative drek? Fucking Elsa fan-art!? AN ENTIRE SERIES OF IMAGES OF IT AT THAT! This is what you are so thankful to AI for? At least be actually creative with it, damn.

>>6271345
I hate bimbofags

>>6271592
i'm a newfag, and I'll unironically start picking up drawing because this AI shit made me realize how cool it would be to put your own mental images on paper

>>6271597
>this AI shit made me realize how cool it would be to put your own mental images on paper
Good on you Anon, I hope you enjoy it. I've noticed that AI, even when the images are good, are rarely quite like you wanted. The good image you accept is just a compromise and acceptance that that's as close as you'll get.

>>6271597
If you have "mental images" in your head you shouldn't need AI.

The whole point of drawing is to create something that's only in your head.

>>6271324
>can generate reference images for free
>nobody can yell at you about tracing being stealing since you're tracing something made by an AI
I'm thinking based

>>6271676
Thinking based thoughts is all you can do hence why you turn to AI.

>>6271679
>AI-assisted art is the same as AI-generated art
Ok tard

>>6271676
>tracing
Sure, but if you're not a particularly talented artist, when you get to thing like gnarled hands, or fugly faces, would you know how to go about fixing it?
Otherwise, I personally see no issue with it.

>>6271592
Although I'm an AI shill I'll be honest : in almost all cases it's impossible to have the AI create even remotely what you have in mind because right now we lack granular control and for some reason the AI loves to make portraits most of the time regardless of what you ask it to do. If there are more than one character, if it's a distant shot or there are any complex interactions it starts to break down. Once the model is better trained and is properly integrated to something like photoshop you'll start to see much more creative work. As long as these type of issues are not solved then the top 5-10% artists are safe for a bit before being also replaced by an indian sweatshop. I give it 1 or 2 years from now for it to be able to achieve anything running on an average computer.

>>6271697
>I give it 1 or 2 years from now for it to be able to achieve anything running on an average computer.
Holy cope

>>6271631
Perhaps i phrased that incorrectly, but that's my point. I want to put my mental images on paper not get offered ai rng suggestions

>>6271700
The major weakness of this AI has already been solved and is waiting to be implemented https://dreambooth.github.io/ (character and object keeping same characteristics in different poses and context)
A photoshop plugin (Alpaca) will soon be released that allows granular control of the painting. Optimizations are coming that keep decreasing the required virtual memory to use the model meaning even a below average gpu can run it.

All that and we're not even close to one year of this stuff being public.Tell me again how is it cope?

>>6271697
>As long as these type of issues are not solved then the top 5-10% artists are safe for a bit before being also replaced by an indian sweatshop.
I disagree, as >>6271556 shows us, just because everyone has great tools, doesn't mean they're all that great at using it. I think artists are remaining, their workflow is just going to be different.

>I give it 1 or 2 years from now for it to be able to achieve anything running on an average computer.
This I think is very wishful thinking, sure they're going to add a bunch of nice features to it like you said here >>6271710
but at the end of the day, the AI itself needs to be better, and if sucking in 6 billion images hasn't made it perfect yet, that means the programs that made the AI and its algorithm that need work, and I think that's going to take a good deal more than 2 years personally.

Technology stalls - we haven't got hover boards, we don't have self driving cars, it's taken how long for cars to start moving away from petrol? Why don't we have perfect translation software yet that completely negates the need to even learn another language?

So yeah, maybe it'll be better in two years, but probably not.

>character and object keeping same characteristics in different poses and context
It's still pretty garbage at it honestly - though it'll be good enough for competent concept artists.

>>6271324
Yeah sure I guess.
I don’t even understand what value these pinup illustrations have anymore. People can pump out new ones in 20 minutes and there’s already an effectively infinite number of them. What’s the fucking point of making more?

>>6271732
There is a point if a person is doing them step by step stroke by stroke.

Nigga just drew a head, so there is simply a head drawn here.

>>6271345
This webm proves all the AI power in the world won't save you from shit taste.

>>6271743

Imagine giving a tool to man to invent anything their “imagination” craves and they make the most boring shit. All AI is doing is proving most humans aren’t really that creative.

>>6271747
>All AI is doing is proving most humans aren’t really that creative.
Remember that study that showed a good portion of people have no thoughts going on inside their head at all (thus the NPC meme)? It wouldn't shock me if a large number of people are just unable to be original or creative.

>>6271747
>>6271743
Let's see your "creative" work, nodraw.

>>6271752
You go to /g/ to see the kind of people hyping this shit up and it's exclusively NPCs generating generic artstation booba dreck as well as tran(ny)shumanists excited for the dehumanization of humanity. NPCs and tran(ny)humanists will bring the end of everything we know and hold dear -- disregard the future tense, they've already did it.

>>6271722
I will just say I roughly agree with some of your points and understand your position (the AI trained on "only" 120 millions pictures not billions, it doesn't much about anime for example. Yes there could be an "AI winter" coming but given recent breakthroughs and how they're all soon going manhattan project on this I doubt it), but what I was trying to convey is that being a pro artist doing this for a living will be more like being a pro singer or pro athlete now...something much more rare and much more competitive than it was before.

>>6271324
We just can't stop winning Promptsisters

>>6271795
>the AI trained on "only" 120 millions pictures not billions
This figure is all over the place. I've read billions, but that's incorrect because it's actually millions, but then that's incorrect because they've only revealed a fraction of the billions they've scanned in (thus the millions). Let's just say they've scanned in enough and hit their current limit.

>>6271752
Which is why they so desperately need those who do have thoughts to connect to their BMI beast grid >>6271782

>>6271753
>seething
No, I will not give you free work to rip off, now dilate

>>6271753

I missed over your comment…but you’re like the equivalent of those norms who post emojis on tiktok over how artists share their “hacks” and make it look easy then BUT the same tools are there for them. Do you see those people using those “life hack” tools to make their animations and web toons? Nope. So why in Gods name is AI any different? It isn’t, because even though you can prompt to high heaven you’ll still make trash, because most people simply are not creative full stop.

>>6271864
He asked for your creative work, not a lengthy written excuse.

>>6271885
>>6271852

>>6271324
>have AI at your disposal
>still create kitsch
A legit question though.
Using AI generated images as base will be the new standard.

Same as some people already use pre-drawn assets to make their works faster.
Those two might inevitably be combined
>prompt image
>copypaste your assets on it
>fix a few issues
>have new work
This will save hours upon hours of work.
And it will only be more used as people get more proficient with it with time and AI gets generally more advanced.

The consumers don't give a shit about the process, only other artists do for the reason that they think all their time creating art was wasted.

And same with any technique such as photobashing and tracing 3d models, it will be frowned upon, but when more people start using AI, it will be a-ok since now those others who used AI don't have the sole advantage anymore.
And all this will repeat itself when we'll be able to create art pieces directly from our dreams through having brain chips installed.

>>6271925
>Using AI generated images as base will be the new standard.
why the fuck would you use AI generated shit and not your mental images. what kind of sovless fuck actually prefers this

>>6271925
Yes, give your data to them instead of prompting on a whiteboard.

>>6271925
>The consumers don't give a shit about the process, only other artists do for the reason that they think all their time creating art was wasted.
the concern trolling here is obvious. this is the same fucking autist shitting all over this board as per usual
>And all this will repeat itself when we'll be able to create art pieces directly from our dreams through having brain chips installed.
kill yourself you satanic bugman

>>6271932
>why would people prefer to do thing without using their brain or hands?
Because it will be easy and fast than actually drawing and trying to come up with stuff.
>>6271939
>everything i don't like is trolling
The snake recoils in terror as he gets exposed to the truth.

Don't make bait thread if you won't like the answers, retard.
Pyw

>>6271345
sauce? Or is this original work?

>>6271952
>Because it will be easy and fast than actually drawing and trying to come up with stuff.
consoomer bugman brain
>The snake recoils in terror as he gets exposed to the truth.
says the deluded fuck who think we'll all be chipped in the head. blow your brains out

>>6271984
>"CONSOOMER BUGMAN!!! a---a-a-a-am i based yet?"
>NO U
You should get chipped in the head.
I don't want low iq fanatic niggers like you around.

>>6271991

>lefty gets triggered by cute females

pedophiles will burn

>>6272009
Yup, any day now...

>>6271925
>>6271932
/begs/ would definitely do it once they get a basic enough understanding of rendering an anatomy.
There are already artists who have hundreds of thousands of followers and produce work that's the same level of quality as the OP.

However one thing I notice with these AI is that they're not doing very complex, or deliberate pieces.
Just very generic portraits in 3/4 or head on perspectives or messy, kinda impressionistic landscapes.

Art and artists will have to evolve their styles and be more deliberate if they want to stick out now.
Can't just draw generic anime coom or artstation photobashes.
You have to have a distinct vision.

>>6272017
>Art and artists will have to evolve their styles and be more deliberate if they want to stick out now.
Pretty much.
You will see a great number of artists falling out of relevancy even faster due to AI.

>>6271752
AI is not meant to be innovative, just profitable.

>>6271752
>It wouldn't shock me if a large number of people are just unable to be original or creative.
Have you had a look around? You'd be surprised to be more right about that than you would have previously thought.

>>6271864
shut the fuck up and produce something you pansy
no one's reading your new blog post

>>6272105
Mind backing up a bit? You’re so close I thought you were about to kiss me.

>>6271556

>>6271588
Yes, yes. Look up stable diffusion and how it's being used for concept art already

>>6271324
its easier and faster to find and trace the millions of instathotts or just rig a model yourself if all you want is coomer twitter art to shit out in an hour.

>>6271592
>Fucking Elsa fan-art!? AN ENTIRE SERIES OF IMAGES OF IT AT THAT!

>>6271592
>allows those with no skills in art to actualise their visions... Why is it such bland uncreative drek?
Have you seen that episode where Homer Simpson gets to design a car?
That sums it up pretty much.

>>6272287
You can thank me later Anon, these only took like a second to make each.

>>6272288
At least we will get something original for once and not another same face artsy man with the staff in background coom shit that has been overdone for decades now

>>6272287
3rd collumn
4th row

Sakimichan is done for

>>6272295
good riddance

Hope do we cope drawfags? I'm actually depressed and never was before.

>>6272302
Fear not, for the AI may improve your work!
>>>/g/88588348

>>6271324
>Is using AI as a base to work off of going to become the new trend?
I want to do that but I just know that at some point someone is gonna find what the AI hard referenced my work from and call me out.
Hardly will be able to sleep soundly

>>6272302
Don’t cope buy a gun.

>>6272302
here: my posts in another thread
>>6272204
>>6272235
AI won't really do anything to impact your work.
If you're mad that AI mogs you at rendering or whatever, just keep in mind that robots mog everyone at playing chess and yet we still do it anyways. If your ego is that fragile anyways you were never going to make it.

>>6272311
Does making it as a professional artist means being unemployed or doing some other job you have any interest in?

>>6272311
>If you're mad that AI mogs you at rendering or whatever,
Remember that 3dcg raytracing renderers have been mogging you for decades.
It's funny to see people explode at the idea of a computer being better at them at making pictures when the industry has been already 90% computerized since around the turn of millennium.
Whose jobs is the AI going to take? All the 2D animators drawing Disney cartoons frame by frame? All the ubiqutous 2D art we see in AAA video games?
Who?

>>6272320
Probably not. Like I said in that thread, there are still people making wagonwheels despite nobody riding in wagons anymore. Even if AI largely supplants whatever specific thing you want to do, it's almost impossible (assuming the rest of human history is any indication) that said thing will be entirely economically unsustainable for anyone.
If you were a weaver before the invention of textile machines then maybe you're out of a job, but the textile industry go so fucking huge afterwards that you're not out of options for jobs in fabrics unless you were obsessed with the idea of weaving.
>>6272326
Yeah it's weird. Technology is invisible to people until there's some new shit that ironically enough can be presented visually.

>>6271324
>not even a full figure
>entire face had to be redone
>arms/wrists broken
This "tool" would a good time saver for making backgrounds for cg sets or visual novels—or to fill up any space where art is needed but quality is not required—but if you already know how to draw the owl it is easier to just draw the owl. In fact, fixing the AI's "work" would require you know how to draw an owl to some extent in the first place.

>>6272356

Are you better than the owl?

>>6272358
To really make it you have to become the owl, to grab the fieldmouse in your teeth without making a sound and understand what it means to be an owl as opposed to a some other bird of prey. The AI will only know how to recognize an owl from what it has been trained to assume are owls, so the AI is ngmi.

>>6272290
yes, tell me that you wrote to it to generate that, I am with dream studio of stable diffusion, and it did not manage to generate something like that

>>6272368
>>>/g/88520762
>>>/g/88535541

Although if you're not running it locally you'll likely mostly see a bunch of censored images.

>>6272375
>stable diffusion
how do I download

>>6272384
https://rentry.org/voldy

>>6272391
what a pity, it asks me for a gpu with 10gb of vram

>>6272398
2GB is the bare Minimum, with a 4GB 900/1000 Series GPU from 2014+ you should be fine to go, although image generation might take a while. Otherwise there's always the Cloud services or Websites, some of which will provide censored results, check /g/ OP for details.

>>6272398
There are multiple forks, look up one that allows for weaker gpu

>>6272017
>However one thing I notice with these AI is that they're not doing very complex, or deliberate pieces.
How long would it take you to paint something like this? Can you even? The AI can shit it out in 2 seconds with dozens of variations on it to pick from based on Simple keywords. How do you want to compete?

>>6272435

>>6272436

>>6272437

>>6272435
AI can't do extreme perspective as of now.

>>6272443
Either add FOV, GoPro, lens in the prompt

>>6272435
>>6272436
>>6272437
>>6272440
generic, derivative, boring, worthless crap. sorry pajeet but back to to the Dell customer landline service you go.

>>6271324
sage ai spam
hide ai spam
report ai spam

>>6272435
>>6272436
>>6272437
>>6272440
I don't see how you could actually use any of these even as concept art.

It's a clusterfuck of abstract shapes used in a way to imply details. But there isn't a single building that looks actually real.

>>6272480
To cut time and expenses for the company

>>6272480
some prompts are better than others my guy. just wait a few months and see what happens.

Be honest. Can you draw better than this?

>>6272489
>the ai is really good at rendering
Yes anon we've already been over this

>>6272480
i agree with you but here's the thing. i'm not an artfag/drawfag, but seeing artists freak out about this shit and normalfags hyping it psychologically fucked me. i feel like i'm getting gaslit successfully for the first time in my life. like it is a unintelligible mess as you put it, but on the other hand artists are freaking out about it, so it has to account for something as they know what they're talking about in their own domain, right? so i'm starting to doubt my own sanity because of this weird reaction that seems appropriate but also not appropriate at the same time. I'm not talking about copyright shit or whatever, just strictly AI capability

>>6272489
1 this isn't a drawing because no one/nothing drew it and 2 it's not done by a human so it doesn't make me feel envy nor does it make me feel anything at wall. if it was made by a human, I'd be envious of his technical skill but unimpressed by what he chose to draw

oh right and before I forget. burn in hell you pedo scum

>>6272502
reality doesn't care about semantics. soon normaloids will realise how easy it is to create any professionally polished image they can think of, and every professional piece of art created regardless of how many days or weeks you slaved over it, they'll just see you as another prompter.

the future blows.

>>6272509
You didn't get results as good as that without a lot of thinkering.
>>6272495
Ignore shitposters. If you want to draw just draw, everything else is meaningless.

>>6272514
>Ignore shitposters. If you want to draw just draw, everything else is meaningless.
i'm not a drawfag but these tech retards actually make me want to do it. i feel like it would make me more "human" than they would be. but my point was the psychological effect this shit has on me as someone who isn't involved into any this. it's very strange

>>6272514
why do you niggas only think of the capabilities of AI as it is right now. it's not just staying as it is, you do realise that right? 6 months ago it was abstract blob art.. pull your head out of the sand and prepare for the storm.

>>6272489
This reminds me of ikeleki(sp?) artstation guy who faked his process. I can't find him without spelling his name.

>>6272486
>some prompts
It's not a matter of prompts.
I feel like a lot of people don't understand how the creative process actually works.
All those images posted are not particularly useful for anything, because they look like concept art, except the point of concept art is to explore ideas, but those images are also very generic. You don't do concept art to prove you can paint a pretty background, you are trying to come up with a setting or something substantial by trial and error, that's why a lot of concept artist photobash too, they care about design not artistic merit.
Now you could use the AI to come up a base concept but at that point a lot of people would just rather do everything themselves or just take inspiration from other people's work, like normal humans already do.

>>6272522
Because I actually work on neurale networks for a living and this tech has clear limitations, this Is not going to improve exponentially.

>>6272522
They said that about self driving cars 5 years ago. AI will never draw beautiful hands gripping a soft thigh!

>>6272527
It did though

>>6272542
Accounting still exists. It's a multibillion dollar industry, and has grown since the invention of excel rather than shrunk

>>6272536
No you don't get it! The mind of the AI is like a child's! he will get smarter the more we prompt! They just need more data.

>>6272544
They had other industries being created and growing that required accounting. On the other hand the entertainment industry is already oversaturated both in production and work force, unless artists find another industry to grow into or the entertainment find a way to grow exponentially to support the speed that art will be made in the future to support all the artists and the new wave of "artists"

>>6272536
Anyone who things it'll expand exponentially outs themselves as someone who knows literally nothing about the process. Just open up any video on training a neural network to do X and every single one has performance increase logarithmically rather than exponentially.

>>6272542
tfw drawing is tedious and all artists r tools

>>6272573
>t. company

>>6272556
>They had other industries being created and growing that required accounting
So then your argument is invalid. I'll respond to your other points, but this is a concession that actually you are wrong about the claim that AI killed accounting. Hold that L
>On the other hand the entertainment industry is already oversaturated both in production and work force
entertainment industry has been growing consistently for the last, entirety of human history. Sales are maybe below expectations in the last 3 years, or maybe some specific companies aren't doing well, but no sector of entertainment is bleeding money across it's entirety. There are more professional artists today than there ever have been in history despite photography largely killing the requirement to hire draftsmen to advertise products or record some other visual. CG killed the need to have props departments do literally everything or to have artists paint cells to modify movie shots and yet the crews working on movies and the total number of people employed in film have only gone up (on the long term) since the invention of CG. On and on and on it goes
> entertainment find a way to grow exponentially to support the speed that art will be made in the future to support all the artists and the new wave of "artists"
There's no cap on how big the economy can be. It's all just a function of how frequently money is traded. Can you get consumers to buy product faster than previously? If so, then line goes up.
The only limiter on growth is how much cash consumers have to spend each year, but if/when consumer wages increase the total entertainment workforce will increase in lockstep, just like literally every other industry literally always has on the grand scale.

>>6272585
Excel is more analogous to using clip studio or Photoshop, AI is like being able to bypass the accountant all together by creating a program that does everything by itself while being fed the works of all the accountants working today.

>>6272573
You artists are now our tools! you are the brushes of our AI art! Bro, you got that new artist prompt pack on gumroad.eth?

>>6272489
I'm sure the artist it's trying to copy the signature of there in the corner could probably draw better than that.

>>6272495
>this weird reaction that seems appropriate but also not appropriate at the same time.
Totally, I get it. I find myself leaning on the "Eh, it's just another tool" side, but then occasionally I see a pretty amazing image spat out and I think "oh shit, this actually could be serious" where all the artists on here just scream about "no soul" and AI tech heads screech and snicker about it being "over". It's a convoluted issue made more so by the peanut gallery.

>>6272527
Yeah, this is generally how I sum it up, like I said "it's just another tool". It definitely makes jobs seem more bland though.

>>6272597
He says it's a tool then calls artists themselves a tool kek, implying that the artists themselves are the ones who are being overridden this time

>>6272594
Accounting is literally just data processing. Computers can already do nearly every part of an accountant's job. Still didn't make accountants obsolete.
You can't bypass accountants though and you can't bypass artists. If you were henry ford trying to design the model T and you had an AI from 2030 how the fuck would you make it happen. "Horseless carriage"? There's no example for that to train the AI with, and it can't invent shit out of thin air, so you'd need to draft the shit yourself.
If you were the director of Arkane's art dept and all of your artists had future-tier AI to prooooooompt with, how would you design Dishonored? "Neo classical dystopian mid-century steampunk with fantasy elements"? Maybe you might get some cute ideas out of it, but its literally impossible for the AI to replace the job of any kind of concept artist. At best you can cut out some of the early thumbnailing.
Similarly you're not replacing character designers. How would you design mickey mouse with an AI? "rubber hose mouse person"? It doesn't know what the fuck a mickey mouse is and that design was different enough from the rubber hose shit at the time that you couldn't pull him out of nowhere, so that doesn't work either.
Who the fuck can you replace? Maybe the people doing caricature at amusement parks get replaced by fancy photo booths or instagram artists that draw real people in a "dragon ball style" or whatever are in-demand with less frequency, but even then there are still people who make farming tools by hand and make a living off it despite simple manufacturing being almost entirely automated at this point.
The limiter on AI replacing artists isn't how good the fucking tech is. The limiter on AI replacing artists is the input method, the fundamental structure of computers, and consumer choices

>>6272599
>then calls artists themselves a tool
What do you think employees are? Of course commissioned/hired artists are tools, as is any other trade.

>>6272614
i know you're talking about how they'd design from scratch, but yeah i'm definitely not looking forward to the AI figuring out linework.

i'm sure once the controls for AI art improve and allowing more drawing controlled inputs (even just quick doodles + text to generate and modify), new style generation will be a lot easier.

>>6272630
I genuinely feel it will never be possible for AI to do new styles in any capacity, and even emulating existing shit might be weird. I'm curious to see what peak AI could do for animation in-betweens, as in whether or not I'm right about it

>>6271345
Why wouldn't you just do everything manually at this point? The AI seems more like a pain in the ass to work with.

>>6272636
>I'm curious to see what peak AI could do for animation in-betweens
If we ever end up with a situation where AI CAN perfectly make images in the manner the tech heads believe it will, we're going to at least get so much great independent animation from it.

>>6271345
>AI helps artists turn those 60 hours of excruciatingly boring work on a single picture into a day's work
>Artists seethe
Go back to studying and learning the fundamentals, folks.
And if you got into art for the money you're on the wrong path anyway, go study law or medicine.

>>6272636
i'm a working 2d animator, honestly an inbetweening AI would be a dream from a creator standpoint, since anything besides keyframe and breakdown poses are 90% of the time just tracing between the lines.

but also a huge part of the job of animators is inbetween artists, so that would kill a lot of the entry level jobs too. i spent months getting paid £250 every day just tracing between lines for 8 hours a day, watching tv in the background, grinding runescape, etc. shit was seriously comfy. while cutting out the time consuming parts of the job could speed up production, i'd miss the hell out of being able to shut my brain off and have 8 hours feel like 1.

>>6272657
4 hour workday coming to animation studios near you, courtesy of inbetweening AI.

>>6272667
It will never happen, Patel. Maybe for wes*ern animation but there is no short supply of nips who want to work in animation nor will the old people running things convert so quickly.

>>6272667
4 hour workday for the Jewish master caste working for the Disney Amazon merger while you drink the government mandated fluoride bug soi paste at your lithium mining job

>>6272668
my name is Seetharaman, not patel, you bhosdike.

>>6272676
Don’t care, still not redeeming.

>>6272667
Dumb retard, if they invent tech that allows something to be done in 1 hr instead of 100, you're only getting paid for 1 hr. Lol

>>6271588
Yep, can animate it too if you want.

>>6271697
You know we've already got this, inpainting ect.

>>6272671
You can use it too

>>6272714
You can't.
You won't.

>>6272594
No it isn't.

>>6272714
Since you're offering, do it.

>>6272724
It's true.

>>6272731
I'm not going to personally but it can be done. The head with a different facial expressions can be done easily by normies on their phones with stuff like faceapp, the dress img2img and inpainting, angle same or even using ai depth map generators, animation can be done with things like megaportraits, which can also alternatively do the expression and head angle obviously. Ignoring that you can just use the liquify tool and other non ai tools to do a lot of these things once you have the initial image.

>>6272764
Okay Patel.

Did you secure any venture capital yet?

>>6272667
We've had interpolation for years, that's how all of those 60fps anime fight scene compilations on YouTube are made.

>>6272764
Sounds more tedious then just redrawing it over and over honestly.

>>6272524
Irakli Nadar? That just shopped some photos then did a lazy paintover/chromatic aberration

Realistically, how much money would it take for you to fix the hands?
Also for practice, go ahead and time yourself fixing the hands.

It's my hypothesis that artists who embrace this technology are drinking from the holy grail.
There is no stopping it, and based on recent trajectory and plans, it's not even slowing down. 3D, animation, video, audio and music, ...

You can shout at the wind or you can adapt.
Even if you don't share it, I advise you to time yourself fixing the hands and think about what you would charge for the task. Better to share your findings and musings of course.

But there's going to be an awful lot of this kind of work for the brushmonkey who accepts the seachange. I use "brushmonkey" to dissuade ego-driven retards.

Just speaking reality. I have a deep appreciation of trad art and artists, on and off oils and charcoal and ink over 20 years. But just as long in math/programming. This isn't going away.

Adapt or die. Start by fixing the hands, and assessing the price.

>>6272823
No one's stopping you, just like no one stops those people who do hyperreal portraits with biros, plenty praise them even.

>>6272846
You can already ask the AI to redraw the hands again and keep rest of the image as is.

>>6272846
>inpainting mask on hands
>import hands model
>matches global style
Within the year, I think.
As much as I like and share your optimism, even the "brushmonkey" skills are soon outdated.

>>6272846
Putting too many fingers on hands never stopped sakimichan

>>6272852
>>6272854
So do it.
That's what I'm asking. Even if you don't share, but better if you do.
Do it. How long does it take to fix the hands, and how much would you charge for the task?

Deal with automatic-fixing when it comes up. But this is the current reality. Can you fix, and how long does it take, and how to charge.

>>6272846
Just mask the hands and then run them through a hands AI

>>6272859
So do it. This is an easy proof of concept.
Even better for those that can:
1) correct the hands in photoshop/etc
2) correct the hands by inpainting
Compare the two. Show an honest study.

>>6272833
That's him.

>>6272862
3) Use both software tools and inpainting

>>6272776
Try do that with only key-frames drawn.

>>6272847
I'm not going to personally but it can be done. The head with a different facial expressions can be done easily by normies on their TABLETS with stuff like PHOTOSHOP, the dress 3D AND BLENDER, angle same or even using interpolation, animation can be done with things like ADOBE ANIMATE, which can also alternatively do the expression and head angle obviously. Ignoring that you can just use the liquify tool and other non ai tools to do a lot of these things once you have DRAWN the initial image.

Guis am I an artist yet?

>>6272870
>which can also alternatively do the expression

>>6272873
yes

>>6272652
Exactly, it doesnt matter what part of the pipeline anyone works on. Ai is just objectively a boost in efficiency. While sketching some armor the other day i realised i could just make my 3080ti shit out hundreds of different designs with adjustable degrees of randomness in 10 minutes ( pic rel ). Anyone who considers themselves a competent artist could learn from the ideas ai is capable of shitting out and use it for inspiration or improve on them the same way they would looking at a real picture or other artists that inspire you For the past month this whole board has been bucket crab downplaying a literal toool, autistically focusing on the things it gets wrong instead of it's ludicrously overwhelming amount of usecases. Ignoring even flirting with the idea it could be useful at all because its "souless". Same mfs will tell a perm/beg/ with a real soul to kill themselves.

>>6271324
yes

>>6272505
i can't find the original of this online anywhere.. wtf

>>6271324
I tried it out earlier out of curiosity. It took a decent amount of work to fix the flaws of ai, but overall I can see how it could be used as a tool if you have art block and just need a random image to draw.

>>6272873
Not only are you an artist, you're already better than 99% of them.

>>6271324
yes

>>6272971
>>6273051
Which ones were first? The AI Monstrosities, or the sketches?

>>6272435
Not him, but ask the AI to do a close-up on a city. Like an eagle eye view of a street. It shits itself and puts out garbage.
It's very easy to do blurry, distant geometric shapes.
The AI also literally can't write anything, so ads and signs are completely out.

>>6273059

>>6272489
Can you draw that exact same character wearing aviators? Or from the side? Or showing their hands? Or in a pose/act that isn't a pinup?

I can. Should be easy for the AI, right?

>>6273062
>Me: Asks Question
>(You): ""
... okay...

>>6273070
the ia

>>6273062
>>6273051
you know you can do this with... non ai images, right? And it's even easier?

you know... that's what most artists do... right?
do you seriously think people draw freehand from nothingness, pure imagination? very, very rare.

>>6273062
feed your sketch back into the ai

>>6273073
I draw freehand all the time, with construction of loomis or comic-type poses, but with anime it's more confusing, with this crap of ai it's much easier for me, if I can use anime images, but it distracts me without realizing it I end up copying, these monsters have no defined shape, I correct the proportions and that's it

>>6272365
thanks anon, this made me feel a lot better.

>>6273072
Well, then I'm impressed at the effort to use AI at all. Is it actually helping you, or are you just doing it as an exercise to see if you can turn them into coherent drawing?

>>6273088
>>6273084
Ah answered, scratch me question then.

>>6273088
I use it as an exercise, because my mind is too lazy to create anime-like poses

>>6273083
you need to color it, ai wasn't trained on linework

>>6273093
lol
it works fine, try it

>>6272287
PLEASE what was the prompt?

>>6273093
Exactly why the lineart the AI cannot reproduce, in fact the lineart poses that appear in the AI are unrecognizable

>>6273094
the lineart looks better

>>6273099
sure in some ways
its just an example that it can create from lineart

>>6271324
Why not, I mean most artists use digital tablet to draw and they seethe about drafting with AI?

>>6273099
I think doing img2img can give you some interesting different takes and directions to take your piece - or even give you a solid base to go off of; though the original was def better.

At the very least it's a fun little gimmick to see what it'll do.

>>6273109
I would like to use the stable diffusion ai, but my gpu is a 2gb apu so far I can't

>>6273108
That's some nice GOATs I SEe. Cool image anon, really selling me on the wonders of AI.

>>6273114
huh? just use dreamstudio on web..

the guy pretending linework works is lying

>>6273117
i can see it getting there sometime early next year desu. see >>6272630

>>6273116
I already used it but it is very censored

>>6273094
This shits out objectively inferior versions; there's no consistency to the fur; the dog is just making a neutral expression; noise all over the contours; realistic-textured boobs because it was trained on a ton of pornstars'; there's no precision or control to the thing even if you put it at the closest value. The whole thing looks like a jumble of meshes from different styles and things. How can someone be impressed by fools gold?

>>6273117
did you give it a good prompt?

>>6273114
>>6273116
There's also huggingface.co to just give it a go. I'm sure they take out options or something though, but it's interesting to play around with.

>>6273123
you understand normies don't see that right? they just see a nice photo
you basically ruined your brain by learning art

>>6272630
>new style generation will be a lot easier
How exactly can it generate a new style if it is trained on the definition of existing ones solely? It would be like telling it to generate a new color

>>6273126
I mean anon we been moving away from realistic stuff for awhile now I'm not sure why people are trying to make it have a comeback
Disney and Netflix have been pumping out live action remakes and near everyone is already tired of their shit why go back from impressionistic to more realistic now

>>6273126
Before I did art I just looked at a picture and liked it, now I glance at every detail and mistake before even visualizing the full thing... Oh well, cheap koikatsu models are still more pleasing to look at than AIcrap

>>6273130
ai koikatsu models when?

>>6273128
new styles as in the combinations of other styles, along with descriptors, selective iterations, etc. everything new is just alterations and combinations of things previously done, as has been through the entirety of human art history.

>>6273128
how do humans generate new styles?

>>6273132
this is made with koikatsu

>>6273146
i meant something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Pl9zD1Z78

>>6273149
that is 3d modeling of sculpture, where is the novelty?

>>6273134
>new styles as in the combinations of other styles
People already do that when typing "Art by Greg Rutoswki and HR Giger" though there's nothing to it because the AI can't merge brushstrokes, it can't do brushstrokes by default only generate noise of their artpiece meshes blended together.
If you are implying in the future you will be able to manually alter and train AI to make some unique never-before-seen shape of some eye, it would be easier to make a 3d model

>>6273151
its 3d modelling from 3 pictures

>>6273149
it's over, 3d sisters

>>6272597
>Yeah, this is generally how I sum it up, like I said "it's just another tool". It definitely makes jobs seem more bland though.
dude, are you blind? he just called artists "tools". in the same article he references accountants as employees and excel as the tool.

>>6273158
ok, I got it, I didn't know that, now that I see it, it seems very advanced

>>6273160
AI can do things like infinite zoom with autogenerating texture detail. /3/ graphichizos are more in trouble than us who work on 4k canvas at most

>>6273170
outpainting is coming for 4kchuds

>>6273161
>>6272619

>>6273117
Jesus christ anon, what in the fuck were your settings at?

>>6273149
AI papers are truly the clown world of science literal videogame bullshots lmao

>>6273245
?

>>6273251
Most images in papers are either the absolute best case scenario or literally made up. And this kind of shit passes only on AI papers for some reason

>>6271324
look at that fucking shitty right ''little'''''''' finger

>>6271324
>teehee, look guise, isn't this tool made to literally replace me sooooo cool?
Artists are actually so fucking retarded lol

>>6273294
Lmao I swear every artist I saw that tried integrating AI on his work with touch ups and such was turned redundant by the next model a month later. It's like these fuckers give a bad omen

>>6272489
>long ass torso
>repeatedly hiding hands
Laughably amateur.

>>6272846

Took 9 minutes, don't know what 9 minutes are worth because I'm not an artist.

LMAO
You little bitch niggers ran to hide in this thread because I annihilated you in the other one. You will never be able to run from the fact that AI art is a gimmick dead on arrival like I proved. AI is dead and I killed it. The cold electric idol you worship has been smashed to pieces. The old gods of technology cannot save you now.

>>6272870
Why did you do this anon?

>>6272435
I don't need to, I don't make art for money. I only draw because I want to, the enjoyment is me doing it, not other things doing it. Why is time a factor where everyone is going to die eventually anyways? Even this AI is doom to die the second the next solar storm or gamma ray burst kills all on this planet

So what does it matter what AI does? It literally doesn't matter. I only care about myself.

>>6272435
>How long would it take you to paint something like this? Can you even?
if you're a beginner you obviously can't, but if this doesn't massively improve, someone who keeps drawing will obviously eventually overtake the prompt monkey. this is pretty obvious, and that's why you try to crab like this

>>6271324
it's tranime so both images are shit

>>6273409
>Heh, I could animate this AI image right now if you want >>6272714
>Yeah, since you're offering >>6272731
>Well... I can't be bothered right now, but here is how I could theoretically do it with AI >>6272764
>That sounds worse than just animating it normally >>6272823
>Then you can do that anon >>6272847
>Well I can't be bothered right now, but here is a poorly rewritten version of how I could theoretically do it with AI, but with the AI programs replaced with animation programs. >>6272870

Even if the joke isn't funny Anon, take a look at the entire context if you're going to ask questions.

>>6273488
Anon I wasn't telling you to do it now, like you were to me, I was saying that if that's what you want to do there's still a space for it, like there's still a space for biros. I didn't do it now because I don't have the hardware or software, yet, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist and is effective.

>6272489
>Can you draw better than this?
What does "better" mean? I have a sneaking suspicion that your definition of "better" is the pedestrian wowed-by-render-monkey one, in which case you deeply don't comprehend art, so this discussion is pointless.

>>6273505
quote properly

I'm not going to quote properly, because I don't intend to feed validation-seeking behavior from mental patients. They need psychiatric advice, not (You)s.

>>6273498
Re-read that, you offered, I said it'd be cool - I never told you to "do it now".
Secondly, where did I say I would or want-to animate it myself? I just said your supposed animation method sounded rather tedious compared to the previous method of doing something frame-by-frame.
Thirdly, it's fine that you can't animate it now, but why did you make the offer in the first place then? You should have just said initially what you said here.

Well whatever, it's all fine.

>>6273505
Allow me to rephrase. Can you draw any object in any style, that when put next to the equivalent AI creation, majority of human viewers would find your work more visually pleasing? I have no doubt that you will always personally find your own creations better than others', because that's just how narcissists are.

What AI art gen are you guys using?

>>6273558
pick up a pencil

I already do, have a wacom as well

>>6273116
dreamstudio does not have img2img. There is one huggingface called diffuse-the-rest but it doesn't work properly

>>6273570
>There is one huggingface called diffuse-the-rest but it doesn't work properly
I've used it, what's wrong with it? Does it lack settings or something?

>>6273558
Mostly Stable Diffusion SaaS or running locally, some are using Mid Journey

>>6272001
Was this image ai generated

>>6272287
>far right on second to last row
MUH

>>6273583
Looks like she's wearing a wireless earbud.

>>6273094
The end result looks like a dispassionate Russian furry artist commission

>>6273535
Motion capture from a single frame is in no way as tedious as doing it frame to frame by hand. Also you need to reread, I didn't offer, I said artists using ai 'can if you want'

>>6273681
>Yep, can animate it too if you want.
I suppose it can be read like that? Still comes across more as an offer though given what it was responding to, but whatever, it's all good.

Would you like some fresh carrots?

Its over
The cat is out of the bag
The genie is out of the bottle
Pandoras box has been opened
The doctor is dead and so is the queen
ITS GAME OVER ARTCELS

>>6273693
this feels like some of the bad dreams I had. why is it so goddamn ugly and strange

>>6273693
PROMPT PLEASE NOW

>>6273693
If I put an image in Dream Studio, what instructions should I give it so that it generates something like this for me?

>>6272489
thats the worst armpit pussy i ever seen
AI is still decades behind the japanese

>>6273536
Soulless AI shit has no appeal besides novelty so yes, I'd said almost all human art, regardless of how shitty it is, has more appeal that AI "creations"

>>6273745
>Soulless
That's for the viewers to decide. We still haven't established whether your art has soul either.

>>6273747
I am a viewer.

>>6273748
I know. I put the word in plural for a reason.

>>6273693
lol
/beg/s and rendermonkeys should seriously consider learning wiring and plumbing now
6 months ago, Machine Intelligence can only generate colorful blobs.
Now it easily replaces most artists.
In the next 2 years entire worlds will be crafted in mere seconds.

>>6273753
Good, you've had multiple people calling it soulless by now so I guess it's settled.

>>6273755
>In the next 2 years entire worlds will be crafted in mere seconds.
Oh good, I can create a world without you, a better world

>>6273576
When I put images into it it doesn't much like the thing I put in. It's super realistic but not the entity I was pushing for. The closest thing I ever got was DiscoDiffusion google colab which retains color and composition (possibly because I set it to high skip rate maybe SD has this in the local software version).

>>6273693

Is this by an image prompt? If so post the original image. If not stop shitposting. Image doesn't belong in this thread.

un-ironically wanting an answer. as a britbong, what is a good job to take up now that my only skill is completely useless?

>>6273693
Is this a unique fork?

>>6273949
Sorry, selling your ass and getting plowed by Men who made smarter career decisions will be the only thing left for you...

That is if you actually lost your job, which I somehow doubt unless you don't try adapting at all. Quit being so pessimistic.

There should be a rule where if anon don't post their prompt we can report them

>>6274004
not even leddit is that tyranical about prompt sharing

>>6274004
Only if we permaban those who don’t pyw.

>>6274004
Why should I reveal my prompts to you peasants?

>>6274004
Some forks for SD can reverse images into prompts

>>6271556

Is this Midjourney, how do you get big cleavage in your prompts without getting censored

>>6274191
This is Stable Diffusion.

>>6272542
evolve or get left behind boomer.

>>6273949
if your skills involve art software, you are being myopic and unimaginative if you aren't seeing this bringing you tons of new work fixing up eldritch mistakes.

Yes, your position will be Brushmonkey instead of Artist, but you could have lots of work in a relatively new but MASSIVELY growing market.
This shit hasn't really even hit the mass consciousness yet.

See this:
>>6273335
>>6272846

Brand yourself as AI + high quality touch-ups.
Show a family photo turned into cartoons with an extra limb whatever. Then show the final result that you touched up, something that they can't get on their own even if their "computer genius prompteur son" could manage to use img2img.

Tons of potential for artists who accept AI imo.

>>6272585
>>6272614
good thoughts, agree completely

>>6272614
>Accounting is literally just data processing. Computers can already do nearly every part of an accountant's job. Still didn't make accountants obsolete.
>You can't bypass accountants though and you can't bypass artists.
true. you would need an actual human replacement with analytical thinking capable of solving unpredictable issues. so, artificial general intelligence, which is sci fi bullshit

t. i work in accounting

>>6271324
>>6272489
>>6272873
>>6272971
>>6273051
>>6273062
>>6273094
>>6273117
Why can't you faggots provide a name of the software you're using

>>6274526
Not any of them, but very likely Stable Diffusion, free open source, performs as well (better in some regards, since it's pure input/output where MidJourney/Dalle2 does some prompt engineering, and has a tendency to end up with a certain "look")

>>6274602
And you can tweak it to your liking if you're savvy enough. Or find a fork already tweaked

>>6273699
All the produce looks like its in a supermarket under fluorescent light. And there is this underlying feeling... that these are eldritch abominations disguised as humans, sometimes the disguise slips(hello broom finger in lower left). One day they'll be better at hiding, and we'll suspect each other of being secret beasts.

>>6274526
It's Stable Diffusion, it's been all over every board for weeks now Anon.

>search Satono Diamond + Stable Diffusion/Dall-E/Midjourney/AI in Japanese/English everywhere
>can't find source
Give it to me, OP.

>>6274477
>Tons of potential for artists who accept AI imo.
You do realize that this technology is not being developed to create more work?
Might as well accept moving in with mom or wiping old people's butts until AI deems us all useless and kills us off.

>>6275307
Relax bro thanks to AI you will be able to truly express yourself. Think of all the possibilities, so excited for the future

>>6275307
If you actually played around with the tech you would quickly see its limitations and weaknesses. It's not scary. It doesn't have a lick of real intelligence.
Literally a blender for visual ideas where you drop some words and references and have it spit out random combinations like some deranged surrealist. It's up to you to make sense of the outputs and maybe stitch them together into something that looks like it has design and purpose.
And it still takes hours of effort and real artistic skills to do any proper work with it.

>>6273108
you better make generator for arguments on ai over real art, this sounds pathetic

>>6271324
further proof that all artists are losers. Shoulda learned to code, faggots

>>6275330
you will always be a street shitter

>>6275332
You're going to be homeless and unloved. You have wasted your life learning a skill that is now useless. cope. cope cope cope.

>cope. cope cope cope.
This bot has malfunctioned. Some troubleshoot its dev about it.

>>6275326
>He thinks we're still stuck on Dall-E Mini

>>6275332
I was at the zoo the other day and their was a person drawing people at a booth,
>when's the AI coming

> people can spot overpaints
> aifags implying you can't spot their art is shit

>>6275336
>>6275344
>poojets mad
kek. AI is getting your job too, curryfriends. Friendly reminder that the last laugh is always the best.

>>6275345
I can't tell the difference and neither can 99.9% of the population. I DO NOT CARE about "soul" or " the creative process" or "intent," I want to look at nice pictures. Prior to now I had to rely on capricious entitled LOSER artists to make those pictures for me as I wasn't born with the talent to make art, but now I can do everything they do faster with the help of technology.

I'm working on a comic as we speak, and because I can actually write interesting characters unlike the attention whores who were born able to draw, I'm sure it will completely blow their work out of the water. I am an AI artist, and I am the future. Screaming about it isn't going to change the end result. You lost, we won. Get over it.

>>6275347
>AI is getting your job too
that's why they'll use it to generate infinite NFTs.

>>6275347
I'm more or less making fun of the pajeet's since zoos and other places usually always have street artists doing quick little things for people
>honestly I kek when I see the /pol/ threads with them

>>6275348
What makes you think your cliche ridden story has a chance of succeeding in this already nepotistic landscape?

>>6275359
because I can actually write well. If you combine my writing skills with the art skills of the AI and my ability to describe a scene, you end up with industry-level work, not to mention I can make an entire page in a few hours. I have an advantage in quality, quantity, and raw appeal. You should be afraid of the future, manualcuck.

The AI could never draw this funny cat picture

>because I can actually write well
this nigga seriously thinks he has something to offer when everything has already been documented in tvtropes and the like and is ready to be automatized already lol

>>6275362
anon what do you write, is it something for mass market appeal or niche

>>6271324
>Is using AI as a base to work off of going to become the new trend?
I'm pretty sure it won't. Anything close to decent this AI shits out is still the most bland composition you can think of.
Also, the changes in that picture are weird.
>AI pic is a normal anime girl looking down while in a body of water with skimpy swimwear and water droplets on her body
>artist changes the pic to an anime fox girl in a body of water with jewelry, an added headdress, and her phone for some reason, looking at the viewer, and the water droplets removed

>>6275362
>If you combine my writing skills with the art skills of the AI and my ability to describe a scene, you end up with industry-level work
Hahaha, yeah sure you do.

Meanwhile I combine my writing AI and my art AI to create comics that are of a industry standard and blow your arse out of the water.
I am the future old man!

>>6275350

Who the fuck is going to buy a nobody NFT

>>6275406
Weren't bored apes made by no name unknown artists? Doesn't really matter since the market crashed and talking about NFTs is like talking about 8tracks.

>>6272435
Firstly, any experienced artist that knows architecture and landscape can do something like that. Dystopian city skyline portraits are primarily vertical strokes of black and blue along with red/yellow light dots. Go look up videos of them being drawn if you don't believe it. Secondly, photography editors have been able get progressively efficient at photobashing their own dystopian pictures to their specifications for the past 20 years. Finally, AI can only compile simple portraits and landcapes already made by artists and only in the safest way possible. It can't do any alternate angle of a city or person without creating a garbled mess because these algorithms can't formulate various dynamics (which is also a problem for even the best text AIs), thus leaving the visual ingenuity of humans overwhelmingly more viable.
This is all just another flavor-of-the-month tech gimmick to get the attention of corporate investors.

>>6271592
Only artists will care. Most people enjoy decently rendered pieces and call it a day.

>>6275443
Right, people love shit films so long as they're filmed competently, or bad stories so long as the grammar is good. Nice retard take there.

>>6273755
Nah, it will likely hit a wall the same was AI-generated storytelling and writing did. Certain low-skill jobs like book cover illustrators will definitely be affected, but professional artists working in the entertainment industry will not, and frankly neither will people who live off of commissions since those people often survive because of their brand.

>>6275343
Not him, but I used Midjourney and the real DALL-E. While the quality of their outputs can be highly impressive, it is still imperfect and that requires a human touch to fix. Professional artists will be able to use it to create an initial design/idea, but that will have to be further developed by them. Artists who do splash art will comfortably not lose their jobs, either.

>>6271324
I want my melting abomination gf NOW

>>6275410

The people behind it knows marketing. They know people and they have the resources. They're not some swamp ass basement dweller who have no real friends. It's just one guy either. It's a team.

If you want your NFT to sell it needs to have value or you need to have the skill to make it seem like it has value. OR you need to know people who can do that and are willing to work with you.

The only way a nobody can make "some" money is to make NFT within a small community where they buy off each other to "support" and maybe once in a while you get a whale to waste money on you or by some poor idiot with really bad luck.

Been drawing for 10 years.
Glad I got a plan B and majored in Art restoration.
There's already little money in drawing, but this is the final nail in the coffin.
Even if you can't render, you can simply use picrel to light a drawing lol

>>6271470
>>6271595
>>6271743
okay homos

>>6272714
Still waiting