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Okay, serious discussion time. How do you reckon AI will effect the future of commissioning, especially abstract art? Will it lower the rates significantly for no name artists?

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it lowers IQ of aifaggots

>> No.6264913

>>6264911
Based

>> No.6264916

Just make fucking /ai/ already.

>> No.6264918

>>6264916
Generally great idea.

>> No.6264924

>>6264905
Yes but not enough, they are still asking too much for art which is not a necessity.

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This is now a thread for cute creepycrawlies :3

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>> No.6264934

>>6264933
would love that on my wall

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>> No.6264938

>>6264933
Is this AI?

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>> No.6264942

>>6264935
what generator is this? looks so good

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>> No.6264945

>>6264942
diffusion

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>>6264945
the future is god damn here

>> No.6264949

>>6264942
idk found that on /g/

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>> No.6264952

>>6264947
Holy shit the nose is right, AI did it!

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age of waifu is here

>> No.6264967

>>6264965
No one needs women now

>> No.6264968

AI has trouble figuring out line/sketches, those will get more valuable, as a sketchfag I can't wait

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>>6264967
So many and so pretty

>> No.6265653

>>6264905
I have no clue what will happen. But, I think that NSFW commissions will probably be at stake. Coomers never really cared about style or composition so long as it looked passable enough in the spank bank. Everyone here thinks they know what's going to happen but only time will tell.

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>>6264935
>>6264965
>>6264971
Good god, it really is over.
I see no reason to follow or commission any artists now.

>> No.6265687

>>6265658
You mean I have to make art that appeals to something other than primal instincts? fuck! What should I draw now?

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>>6265658
>>6264971
>>6264965
HHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGHHHHH

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>>6265687
you got your pretentious dose covered anon

>> No.6265711

>>6265687
>implying anything else wasn't the first thing to go

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>>6265687
>something other than primal instincts
>Implying anyone cares about that something other
art a peaked with titties
it's over

>> No.6265736

>>6265716
Gonna draw some feet.

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>put in 'shark' and 'laser show'
guys it's over
>>6265716
>>6265658
>>6264935
can this do furry?

>> No.6265746

>>6265736
I doubt these AIs are able to be trained on sexy necks consistently either
Vampirechads will profit a lot

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>>6265716
>>6265658
>>6264971
>>6264965
>>6264935

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>>6264933
very insporational

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>>6265755
You will OFFICIALLY never be rich and famous.

>> No.6265855

I hope the commission economy collapsed. All artists should strive to create art for their own sakes rather than cowtow to no creatives who flock to cheap and easy solutions. When the commission market is saturated with ai and clients are desperate for real art, it will be my greatest pleasure in telling them “no.”

>> No.6265859

>>6264929
Is that Midjourney V4? Post high resolution and prompts pls.

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>>6265855
>real art
why are humanoids always so delusional? is it pride? is it collective autism?

>> No.6265863

>>6265862
Why are promptoids so desperate for approval from actual artists?

>> No.6265864

>>6265855
>clients are desperate for real art
lmao what with these AIs finetune potential anyone can a model in your images and have the AI draw like you for them

>> No.6265868

>>6265864
AI sourcing is already cannibalizing itself, getting even more derivative than it was initially.

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>>6264968
>AI has trouble figuring out line/sketches
For now... 2 more months and it's over for sketchfags.

>> No.6265872

>>6265869
>2 more months
Lmao ai fags already seeing the general opinion swaying and are scratching to remain relevant

>> No.6265881

>>6265872
why are you laughing? what's so funny? you are being replaced yet you are laughing
have you gone completely deranged? is that how you cope?

>> No.6265889

Degenerates thread

>> No.6265892

>>6265881
I’m laughing because ai art has already lost its value and the more developed it becomes, the quicker it will collapse. Enjoy your legal battles with the ai developers who are already claiming to own the art your prompts are generating lol.

>> No.6265897

>>6265881
Why are you so desperate for approval from a community you clearly disdain? That’s deranged if you ask me.

>> No.6265898

>>6265868
Do you mean derivative as with literal pixel to pixel photobashing >>6264293

>> No.6265901

>>6265869
>JuSt TWo moRe WeEkS BrO

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Why did he deleted his Midjourney photobashing tutorial? Something it's up.

>> No.6265913

>>6265855
>desperate for real art
>desperate for art
LOOOL

>> No.6265916

>>6265716
>>6264971
>>6265658
That's it, artists are officially obsolete. AI Chads I kneel

>> No.6265919

>>6265913
LOL ahaha friend you got em all. Bro you so funny Billy, wanna hang out after school? U so kul, Billy?

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>>6265909
>Something it's up
They are going round up and gass every "artist" who fell for ai meme. Normalization is cooming. Verification not required.

>> No.6265925

>>6265922
This. Hitler was resurrected for one last holocaust

>> No.6265928

>>6265922
Promptoid posts here and on social media reek of desperation so badly that it would almost be sad if it weren’t hilarious.

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>>6264905
More people will be able to live off art by selling their ai generated art like that guy that sold a ai generated picture of a cowboy for 2000$.
Its good for people who cant draw no matter how much they try to learn but still want to make money off art like me but i guess its bad for people like yall that spent thousands of hours learning drawing books just to get your commisions taken away by a robot.
Pic related is drawn by a robot with every time it generates a image its getting rapidly better and better.
Its been such a short time since ai images were just random blobs of colors and now they look like this.
Soon they wont even need an artist to fix mistakes in the drawing it will just perfectly generate the image every time.

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>>6265932

>> No.6265935

>>6265932
>>6265934
Your posts are as derivative as your “art”

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waifu diffusion

>> No.6265980

>>6265932
Lmao, I'm still gonna learn how to draw. At the end of the day, I can sketch better stuff in a sketchbook than you'll ever be able to. But yea fuck it, if that's what people buy, I'll sell AI art prints too just so I can keep drawing more.

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>>6264905
Commissioned art should be fine for now; Commissions seem to come in two categories; You're being hired because they like your stuff (in other words, you're being hired because you're YOU), or because you're being hired to draw someone's OC or fav character (usually for something deviant).
AI may be good at drawing a random decent looking character stitched together from thousands of images, but it's not good at consistency, and it can't draw what it has no references to (like someone's obscure OC).

As for abstract/surreal/symbolic art specifically - it could be in trouble? It really depends on the particular look of their abstract art, for example I don't think I've seen AI art that looks like this pic. So it depends on whether AI can replicate said artist

>>6265658
Cool, let's pretend she's your OC, now prompt her doing some inflation fetish shit... Can't do it? Then commissioned art remains safe.

>>6265869
>2 more months and it's over for sketchfags.
This is desperation.

>>6265932
>Its good for people who cant draw no matter how much they try to learn but still want to make money off art like me
I want to be a rocket scientist, but don't know jack shit, but I still deserve to be such just because. This is pure entitlement, regardless of the future of AI. You should do some self-reflection anon, this seems like a toxic personality trait.

>Soon they wont even need an artist to fix mistakes in the drawing it will just perfectly generate the image every time.
Pretty strongly disagree with this, I think it's not going to get much better. Do you know how the AI improved? It wasn't because every time it "generates a image its getting rapidly better and better", it's because they essentially just feed the pattern recognition software more datasets (other people's art, which is why there's copyright debates around these things) - They've now fed this AIs somewhere around 6 billion images. How many more does it need to be fed to be considered "good"?

>> No.6266277

>>6265963
What's with the weird shirt straps/necklace dissappearing into her collarbones.

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>>6266168
>now prompt her doing some inflation fetish shit... Can't do it? Then commissioned art remains safe.
Give it time.
Coomers will move mountains to get free and fast coom, you still haven't got it.
And with any image altering software you can get results that will satisfy the layman.


>comparing jobs that require higher education and actual engineering skillsets and chemical knowledge with being an artist
>calling other entitled
>prompting others to self reflection
Artist is a valueless title, you pretentious faggot.
Did you build a statue out of shit? Guess you're an artist now.
Did you splatter paint on a canvas in any way? Guess you're an artist now.
Did you draw something, anything, seriously any thing at all? You're an artist.
Did you make a cross upside down? Guess what? You're an artist now.

If you unironically call yourself an artist, you're calling yourself a canned shit eating retard.


It's obvious that the majority of artists don't even like doing art, they like it as long as it nets them attention on themselves, that's why they're so adamant about stopping AI from competing for attention, artists know they'll lose.
That is the beauty of natural selection;
Weak blood doesn't survive.
Maybe being an artist might mean something in the future.

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>>6266303
based

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>>6266303
AI Bros are getting desperate now that sites are banning it.

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>>6266303
Newgrounds too... uh oh...

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>>6266303
>>6266305
You are litteraly the same two people.

>> No.6266313

>>6266307
>>6266309
Ai bros hold strong! Ill make another thread in a minute!

>> No.6266317

>>6266310
>You are litteraly the same two people.
>>6266285

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>>6266310
Obviously not retard-kun. We're clearly using different prompts :^)

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>>6266317
That's not me, but whatever.

>> No.6266322

>>6266319
Can you be more generic? At this point literally use image search or like twitter.

>> No.6266337

>>6266307
>>6266309
It really doesn't matter.
You can't stop it but it seems AI will stop you.
You're letting AI filter yourself.
But you're unable to perceive such nuance, mutt-kun.

Now post your work, you do draw, right?

>> No.6266342

>>6266322
Post your work

>> No.6266348

>>6266303
>Can you make her inflate?
>Gives her melted tits
Not exactly what was asked, looks like you need to polish that 'image altering software' skills.

>comparing jobs that require higher education and actual engineering skillsets and chemical knowledge with being an artist
>Artists Grrrr
It seems you almost got the point... but didn't. You appear to have a lot of vitriol for the title of artist, which you bring up a lot, despite it seemingly not being mentioned in your referenced post - so let's ignore your retard rage for a moment

Does being a rocket scientist take skills?: Yes, many skills, and years of study and training.
Does being a good... let's say draftsmen, or illustrator, take skill?: Well it takes years to become proficient at drawing, skills in digital art and other mediums, knowledge on good composition and colour theory and so on - so yeah it takes skill.

So a person who has no skills in either area say they they be paid for it all the same, yeah I could call that entitlement.

>It's obvious that the majority of artists
>that's why they're so adamant about stopping AI from competing for attention
Right, it's not possibly because it's their dream job to make money their living of their art, or just general fear of losing their work - it's only about attention. You're a faggot anon.

>Did you make a cross upside down? Guess what? You're an artist now
Did you even take a decent look at the image anon? It's pixel art, creating an interesting layered gradient effect. AI probably couldn't do it.

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>>6266348
You whole post boils down to:
>ur just jealous and hate artists you didn't meet my requirement to a T and arent arguing based on my opinions
Yeah, Anon, i can tell you're heavily autistic, incredibly so, so any nuance and insight is wasted on you.
And any argument, no matter how good will just be responded with
>ur just [insert ad hominem here]
>it's not true because i say so
>you didn't agree with me
I'm not doing this shit, autismo.

Here have some AI ass.

>> No.6266371

>>6266360
>"ur just [insert ad hominem here]"
>"Yeah, Anon, i can tell you're heavily autistic"
>"incredibly so"
>"I'm not doing this shit, autismo."
>Proceeds to strawman

Haha, sure sure Anon. Can't even admit that art takes skill, so I agree discussing anything with you is useless.
Also have you posted that exact image before? I've seen it like 3 times already, or is AI actually already regurgitating things?

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>>6266371
>CAN'T EVEN ADMIT THAT ART TAKES SKILL? CHECKMATE
>WHY AREN'T YOU DISCUSSING MY BAD FAITH ARGUMENTS AND NOT AGREEING WITH ME?!?!?!
>WOWOW I'VE SEEN THIS IMAGE 3 TIMES ALREADY IT MEANS ITS THE AI
Man, i really don't like using that tranny word but you might actually be legitimately schizophrenic.

I've seen posts like yours getting spammed at nauseum in these threads, always posting the same tired bad faith emotional non-arguments only ending up in insults and assumptions about a person.

Do you really expect me to engage you when you're being irrational?

Learn to argue truthfully and on an objective basis instead of trying to validate yourself, you stupid nigger.

I'll take you seriously if you make good arguments and post your work.

>> No.6266388

>>6266385
>I'll take you seriously if you make good arguments and post your work.
Not him but why don’t you faggot?

>> No.6266395

>>6266385
>you might actually be legitimately schizophrenic
>Do you really expect me to engage you when you're being irrational?
>you stupid nigger.
>WOWOW I'VE SEEN THIS IMAGE 3 TIMES ALREADY IT MEANS ITS THE AI
>always posting the same tired bad faith emotional non-arguments only ending up in insults and assumptions about a person.
>>"Yeah, Anon, i can tell you're heavily autistic"

Haha, okay sure anon, I'm skitso - anyway, so I was being legitimate about the ass pic, have you posted it before? It would be interesting if AI really is already pumping out extremely similar images.

>> No.6266397

>>6266385
>and post your work.
Oh, and it's clear you've been on /ic/ too long shit posting about AI, it's clearly rotting your brain, turn back buddy.

>> No.6266409

>>6266388
>no u
I do that all the time, Anon-kun.
Feefees getting hurt and spamming insults as arguments, doesn't make arguments.
>>6266395
I've posted that picture for the first time. What kind of retarded question is that?
>Inb4 ur lying because of the image number
newfag

You have no arguments that you have to resort to jewish tricks.
>inb4
i lol and lmao @ you already
>>6266397
It's like throwing pearls before swines.
I have infinite pearls and swines choking on my pearls is funny.

>> No.6266419

>>6266409
>I've posted that picture for the first time. What kind of retarded question is that?
>Inb4 ur lying because of the image number
>newfag
You're really raging out here, take a breather my guy.
Anyway, so that is the first time that image has been posted - that's interesting, so the AI really does seem to generate very similar images. I wonder if that'll cause problems for people down the line.

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>>6266419
>WOWOWO I BET UR SO MAD
Man, i bet my version of me that lives in your head must really be everything that's convenient for you.
>that's the first time that image has been posted
Can't you read or are you twisting words on purpose?
>"I" have posted that picture for the first time.
You're only proving how mentally ill you are, faggot.

>> No.6266465

>>6266442
>Asked if that's the first time the image is posted
>Responds with "I've posted that picture for the first time."
>Reasonably assumes that means it's an original
>"Can't you read or are you twisting words on purpose?"
So I'm guessing you didn't create this image and downloaded it from the board and are just reposting it? Why not just say that? Why would an image file name of random numbers tip me off to whether it's original or downloaded from this board?

>You're only proving how mentally ill you are, faggot.
>you twisting words on purpose?
>Man, i bet my version of me that lives in your head must really be everything that's convenient for you.
>WOWOWO I BET UR SO MAD
I think you're angry because you keep posting things in an angry tone. Meanwhile I've not said anything about you, other than calling you a raging retarded faggot a few posts back, which seems to have flipped a switch in you anon. I'm sorry I hurt you so.
Feel better anon?

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>>6266442
Holy shit the cope on this post LMAO

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>>6266465
>so i'm guessing
Yeah, too much.
You're outright assuming that everyone who doesn't agree with you is TechnoHitler.
Has anybody ever told you that that's not a sane way to talk to people?

Be glad i've been humoring you this far.
>in an angry tone
What in the actual fuck?
>Meanwhile I've not said anything about you,
You're still talking with a version of me inside your head.
>which seems to have flipped a switch in you anon. I'm sorry I hurt you so.
>Feel better anon?
I was never feeling anything but i guess i must be so mad seething coping in your head.

Why do go this far only to be retarded? I hope for your sake that you're baiting me, but i still fail to understand what you get out of pretending to be this mentally ill.

You proved everything i posted before>>6266360
And i love being proven right.

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>>6264935
MILKA BOOBA PROMPTA

>> No.6266514

>>6266488
>in an angry tone
>What in the actual fuck?
Anon... please... You're making this too easy.

>so i'm guessing
>Yeah, too much.
>You're outright assuming that everyone who doesn't agree with you is TechnoHitler.
So... So easy, and you're making wild assumptions about my opinions on AI. I actually think it's an interesting and useful tool. All I said was I agree that it's entitled to think you have the right to be something you have not put the effort to get the skills in. I think I also said there'd likely be some job loses from AI? Whatever - I'm not sure where my harsh "technohitler" opinion came from.

>but i guess i must be so mad seething coping in your head.
Actually I'm just responding to your posts, they seem to be seething.

>Why do go this far only to be retarded?
>i still fail to understand what you get out of pretending to be this mentally ill.
>ur just [insert ad hominem here]
hmmm

>And i love being proven right.
Well I'm glad your happy anon :)

>> No.6266526

Dear god are artzoomers legitimately dumb as bricks.

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>>6266514
>still talking to a version of others inside his head
>the whole post is basically a "NO U"

>you're making wild assumptions about my opinions on AI.
Where? Ah, inside you head.
But i guess it's fine when you do it, but not fine when you think others did it.
lmao
>All I said was I agree that it's entitled to think you have the right to be something you have not put the effort to get the skills in
Lets see >>6266168
>I want to be a rocket scientist, but don't know jack shit, but I still deserve to be such just because. This is pure entitlement, regardless of the future of AI. You should do some self-reflection anon, this seems like a toxic personality trait.
You're retarded because you're comparing apples to apple flavored water.
And being a hypocrite at the same time since you're accusing others of the same crime you're committing.
I've told you:
>Being an artists doesn't require shit
Which is a fact based on reality. Your delusions aren't an argument.
And how did you respond?
>OMG U MUST HATE ARTISTS UR A POOPYHEAD I BET UR SO MAD
And the more you posted, the more right you've proven me.
>hmmmmmm
>"it's fine when i do it"
Proven once again that you're a retarded nigger.
I'm playing by your rules, outplayed you and then you want to change your own rules.

Got any more bait? I'm starving.

>> No.6266563

>>6266539
>Where?
>"You're outright assuming that everyone who doesn't agree with you is TechnoHitler."
Hmm...

>All I said was I agree that it's entitled to think you have the right to be something you have not put the effort to get the skills in
>I want to be a rocket scientist, but don't know jack shit, but I still deserve to be such just because. This is pure entitlement, regardless of the future of AI
And what's the difference?

>And being a hypocrite at the same time since you're accusing others of the same crime you're committing.
Which crime is that?

>Being an artists doesn't require shit
Other than the efforts dedicated to polishing your skills, sure - the great thing about art is anyone can get into it, all you need to pencil and paper, but it takes time and effort to get good at it.

>Artist is a valueless title, you pretentious faggot.
>Did you build a statue out of shit? Guess you're an artist now.
>Did you splatter paint on a canvas in any way? Guess you're an artist now.
>Did you draw something, anything, seriously any thing at all? You're an artist.
>Did you make a cross upside down? Guess what? You're an artist now.
>If you unironically call yourself an artist, you're calling yourself a canned shit eating retard.
>And how did you respond? "OMG U MUST HATE ARTISTS UR A POOPYHEAD I BET UR SO MAD"
Jeez, why would I have thought that? Also, you seem oddly focused on my response to this, I felt I was pretty tame about it.

>"it's fine when i do it"
Do what?

>Got any more bait? I'm starving.
I'm starving too, so please actually say something with some meat to it.

>> No.6266579

>>6264905
sage ai threads
hide ai threads
report ai threads

>> No.6266580

Would you rather commission a family painting from Ilya Repin himself or would you want to AI generate it?

>> No.6266588

>>6265932
Where did this notion of AI allowing the masses to make art come from? Even without the AI stuff art has always been accessible, especially now, you can find every resource you need to become a literal pro for FREE online. If you like the way a specific artist makes something, there's a 70% chance they have a tutorial showing you exactly what they do, giving away the same brushes they use, showing you the same books they learned from. If you have enough motor skills to type on the keyboard, you can fucking draw. I highly doubt that people who say they "can't learn" really can't learn, it's probably more that they thought it'd be a lot easier than it turned out to be, and they quit before they started seeing results. Learning art is no harder than learning how to go to the gym regularly, learning another language, or learning how to code or any other skill. You don't expect to code for a week and be a full stack dev, you don't expect to go to the gym and get buff in a week, and you don't expect to be fluent in a new language after a week, or even a month, or even a year! I don't understand why people have this attitude towards art, it makes no sense. It's weird how people pretend it's being "gatekept" by artists or whatever when they're just not legitimately interested enough to put the time in. If anything, AI has the potential to make art less accessible for the masses. To make AI generated work you need a super powerful PC, or you need to borrow someone else's shit remotely. I highly doubt that after they train this shit to be competent in any way that it will continue to be free, or at least the best version of it anyways. And even then, your artistic vision is probably gonna get neutered once they start filtering shit anyways. Good luck making fanart once the disney cops show up lmao.

>> No.6266611
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>>6264905
A lot of those a.i programs require reference. I take it some people might commission artists to make a few pics to feed their machine.

>> No.6266619

>>6266611
Billions of references though Anon. There's the img2img feature, but I don't think that does what you're after.

>> No.6266631

>>6266619
I know, but until the a.i improves its sewrch and understanding prompts, its going to need a little help getting in the ballpark of what the person us asking.
Also, artists are still able to create something new. Only issue is that the moment they post their new style online, a myriad of copycats will prop up. Already happens with the sakimichan look alikes.

>> No.6266634

>>6266631
By look alikes i mean people literally painting like her.

>> No.6266644

>>6266303
>>6266360
>>6266385
>>6266539
/g/ fag gets angry that he's not entitled to the moniker of being an artists.

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>>6266563
>"look Ma, i'm feigning ignorance"