/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6242547
Here is why you don't buy chinese garbage like XP-Pen or Huion.

New Cintiq line coming out soon.

>>6242547
Delete this shitshow of a thread and ban attention whoring OP from making new ones.

Zhang's mad again: >>6242578

Anyone have a spare dog? I'm sure he'll calm down if he relieves his hunger.

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablets
XP Pen Deco

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq
Huion Kamvas
XP-Pen Artist

>Mobile tablets
Wacom MobileStudio Pro
Apple iPad Pro
Samsung Galaxy Tab

>General guidelines when picking a tablet:
- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.
- If you don't see a tablet you're interested in listed, ask about it. This isn't a definitive list, just one to give you an idea where to start looking.
- Wacom is the industry standard, but are overpriced. Chinese brands have mostly caught up in the past few years and will provide a near identical user experience for a fraction of the price. The biggest downside is their customer support, so it's advised you purchase through a 3rd party like Amazon that will back you should you need to make a return.
- Avoid Surface Pros. The N-trig digitizer provides a mediocre drawing experience. There are alternatives to the surface pen that may improve it, but overall it's best to just avoid entirely.

>Display Calibration tools:
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4 [Embed]
(Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)

>What tablets does /dtg/ use?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

Previous thread: >>6231591

>>6242595
>ching chong so mad he missed out on making the next thread he resorts to posting it here, where no one will see it
xD

>>6242600
>xD
You really are a redditor, huh?

>>6242595
>>6242547
which one do I listen to? are huion good or no?

>>6242547
tourist layman here.
i bought a S8+ recently but the S-Pen is too small and makes my hand hurt. any recommendations for a better pen?

>>6242644
nah they're shit

>>6242644
yea they're good

>>6242644
i have a huion kamvas 13TM, and im using it on linux with the official driver. for sure the cursor complaint of op is there but everything else doesn't seem to be true

>>6242595
I have a huion 22 plus and confirm they’re good. No cursor issue like what op showed in his outdated video

>>6242584
>>6242600
>>6242549
Actualy Insanity. How long have you spammed these threads? 3 years? 4? Get a life

>>6242644
I have a Huion Kamvas 4k and it's incredibly good. Clean bright display, beautiful colors, dead silent, and performance is amazing. Pen works flawlessly for my needs so I don't really have any real complaints.

>>6242687
Sitting in his rat-infested moldy room in the basement of his parents home huffing cheeto dust from his lard lungs watching over /dtg/ like a sperg IS his life.

>>6242687
A long time. Too bad his art hasn't improved in that time.

>>6242702
To be fair, it's a normal behavior for him, as he fell in love with his 12 year old Wacom, and any interest in competing tablets smacks of betrayal to him.

>>6242668

>>6242644
The reason op won't post a newer video than a 3 year old video that shits on xp pen (not even huion) is because there's not one. Every artist worth listening to says wacom is the best, but huion offers a near identical drawing experience for a lot less money. Their customer service is just known to be shit

and here are the chinamen:

>>6242661
>>6242668
>>6242797
>>6242688
>>6242798

Wacom = Ipad (depending on workflow) >>> Huion > XP Pen > Galaxy

if you disagree you're a retard

>>6242832
Post your work, let's see how a brand name helped you out.

>>6242804
Are these "chinamen" in the room with us now?

>>6242832
As a huion enjoyer, I agree with this completely.

>>6242840
Did this on iPad in the airport last this week.

but also, why trying to say name brand doesnt matter? This whole fuckin thread is for debating name brands.

>>6242854
why say someones a retard if they disagree with you? you cant just take this moralfag approach now. hes saying skill > tools

>>6242804
Yes I am a Chinaman since I use a Cintiq Pro 32.

>>6242860

i dont disagree with skills > tools. his comment was sarcastically saying that brand name doesnt matter at all.

the entire point of this thread is to say which brands are the best for drawing

>>6242895
>the entire point of this thread is to say which brands are the best for drawing
I thought it was about hating those damn chineses?

>>6242547
whats the difference between the wacom intuos and wacom intuos pro?

>>6242905
The price.

>>6242905
the pen has tilt and button on the end
more express keys and they are on the side instead of the top which is dumb

kinda wish I got it but it cost double

>>6242905
One is worth buying, the other is shit compared to any basic bitch chink tablet.
Zero reason to buy a non-pro intuos over a huion or xp pen.

>>6242644
I've been using an Intuos for about 7 years? i am yet to find any glitches, problems with drivers, etc. and the pen works like a charm

Lately I've been thinking about upgrading to a pen display so my main concern it's the way the pen feels (parallax, tilt, all that stuff)

Soo are them Huions good? I'd appreciate if Huion anons could post vids drawing or testing the thing

I have a 10 years old Wacom Intuos 5.

Let's say I buy a new Intuos M. Would that be an upgrade? Is it equal to my current bulky tablet at least, in terms of quality/functionality?
I don't care about buttons and bluetooth sounds good.

Guess my actual question is, is a premium tablet from 10 years ago still better than a mid-tier tablet from today?

>>6243116
Buy one on Amazon
Return it if you don't like it

>M1 chip which is still an absolute monster
>Supports the gen 2 pencil
>Type-C charging thank god
>Goes up to 256GB which is all you will need as long as you back up your shit like any responsible artist should do
>The difference between the pro's mini-led display and the air's display is microscopic
>No face-tracking camera so Apple can't store your biometric data
>Incredibly light and portable

Reminder that the larger 12.9 screen size is the only reason you should consider an ipad pro over the current ipad air

>>6243116
>I've been using an Intuos for about 7 years? i am yet to find any glitches, problems with drivers

There's no way this is true. I had Intuos 4 and Intuos Pro for many years and used them with win7 and win10. I had frequent driver issues with pen pressure stopping working or glitching workspace and had to reinstall the drivers or restart the wacom service. And I heard numerous complains about the same kind of issues from art buddies. It's not that big of a deal to fix, sure. But I'll never believe the claims that Wacom's drivers are more stable and superior to xp-pen or huion or whatever.

>>6243159
I got 11" Ipad Pro 2021 over Ipad Air, because it was cheaper where I got it and the specs were better than Air's at the time. Though I don't feel like specs should matter if you're not trying to be ridiculous and make Ipad your main workstation, which is retarded because ios is trash. Even then, I don't think extra 2gb of ram is a game changer. All Ipads (even non-pro, non-air) are the same in terms of drawing experience, so used or the cheapest one you can get is the way to go, if you even need one.

I wanted to sell some of my 2018-2020 drawing tablets collecting dust which I don't use anymore, but I heard a story where the buyer received the purchase but went for a devolution right away, and when the seller opened the box sent back, the tablet pen was missing. This could be a really shitty situation, and I live in the third world to worsen the odds of being robbed. Thoughts?

>>6243180
>I had frequent driver issues with pen pressure stopping working or glitching workspace and had to reinstall the drivers or restart the wacom service

Can confirm, drivers sometimes fucked up on W7.
Never had a single issue on mac tho

Will felt nibs sold for the wacom pro pen 2 work on the pro pen slim?

>>6243181
You could sell them separately. If you were going to sell them both together for $200, you could split them up like
>tablet, no pen $180
>pen $20

>>6243181
Just sell locally and have them pick it up and pay with cash or in advance, don't bother with shipping/mailing elsewhere.

Thanks for the idea, I guess I'll try whichever comes first

What tablet should I buy if I want something with texture? I already have a huion drawing monitor and a wacom drawing tablet.

>>6243101
>One is worth buying, the other is shit compared to any basic bitch chink tablet.
>Zero reason to buy a non-pro intuos over a huion or xp pen.
>t. angry chang

>>6243130
>Guess my actual question is, is a premium tablet from 10 years ago still better than a mid-tier tablet from today?
Easily. Discard any shills who try to tell you otherwise.

All you need from a tablet is clean lines and pressure. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>6243560
I don't understand the question
are you asking for an etched glass display?

>>6242854
Do you take commission? This is some good shit

>>6243715
its ai generated hes a faggot. look at the eyes and background

>>6243130
even most entry level tablets now are better than tablets from back then.

>>6243715
samefagging clown lmao
go fuck yourself with your AI BBC dildo

>>6243819
Exactly how?
>m-more preassure levels!!
Yeah you're going to use those 8k levels for sure, especially that most programs use 0-100 range in all the tools.

16 inch 1080p or 1440? Is the increase worth price difference?

>>6244062
what's the price difference?

>>6244049
Has anyone ever told you that you're a very annoying person?

>>6244090
Has anyone ever told you how to form an argument?

>>6244084
Looks like 1500 vs 2400 of my currency. I'm looking at huion. The cheaper 1080p is regular. 1440p is pro with buttons.

>>6244097
you're not worth arguing with. You make the same stupid fucking statements every single time.

>>6244111
Is the pro etched glass or a screen protector?

>>6244164
That was 1st my post in this thread and you failed to make any contrargument to it other than personal attacks. It's pretty sad but not surprising.

>>6244195
>in this thread
Okay? Not your first time in this general though, dipshit. Why are french people so fucking dumb?
More levels of pressure sensitivity are better.
Pens without batteries are better.
Tablets that are larger are better.
Tablets with the same aspect ratio as your monitor are better.
Tablets that are still supported and updated by their manufacturer are better.
Are old tablets bad or unusable? Of course not. Do you need anything a new tablet offers? Fuck no. But they're still objectively superior products.

Now tell me how an older tablet is better.

>>6244195
You've lost idiot. Take the loss and move on, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>6244049
>>6244097
>>6244195
Don't worry about that guy. It's a chinese shill who is notorious here for sperging out and hurling insults.
He has that angsty turn of phrase: "fucking this, fucking that, fucking dipshit" - etc.

>>6244195
Don't worry about the guy you're responding to. It's a chinese shill who is notorious here for sperging out and hurling insults.
He has that angsty turn of phrase: "fucking this, fucking that, fucking dipshit" - etc.

>>6244291
>who is notorious here for sperging out and hurling insults.
ironing

so this... is the power.... of huion

>>6244229
>More levels of pressure sensitivity are better.
>Tablets that are larger are better.
>Tablets with the same aspect ratio as your monitor are better.

Obviously not since Intuos 3 is the "best" one according to the original post lol

>>6244473
It's the only tablet op has experience using, and even that is limited to a floating Loomis head every couple months

>>6243691
It broke m8.

>>6244229
>Tablets with the same aspect ratio as your monitor are better
What about resolution?
I heard the current Intuos line is optimized for 1080p but I have a 4K monitor. Would that be a problem? How?
I saw people recommending the Intuos Pro for 4K but I have no idea why.

>>6242547
Where did his philtrum go?

>>6244408
The power of asian genes.

>>6244473
You can get intuos 3 in 16:9 aspect ratio. There is also large one that wouldn't fit most people's desk anyway. The only argument against it people have is "only 1024" preassure levels. But they can't explain why they need it.

>>6244994
More pressure levels allows for smoother transition of whatever your brush does (size, gradient, whatever)
It's not necessary, but it is nice.
Like how 4k isn't necessary, a 24+ inch screen isn't necessary, a larger pen tablet isn't necessary, etc.
You don't "need" more than a 20 year old tablet, but it sure does feel better to use something newer.

There's any major difference between the Galaxy Tab S7 and s8?

>>6245053
>size, gradient, whatever
Show me example of stroke that's ranged from 0 to 8000 pixels. That people actually use in their work. Gradient is from blending where opacity values are 0-100. In all programs that I'm aware of. There is 99% chance that every single motherfucker in this board paint their Asian waufus and Loomis heads in 8 bit depth documents.
512 levels of pen preassure would be enough if all of them would be on point without any jumps. People keep saying it's "better" but no one can give any actual reason why. I understand it's not "worse" but it's just specs gimmick like megapixels in digital cameras used to be be treated.

>>6245317
>Show me example of stroke that's ranged from 0 to 8000 pixels.
You're a clueless fucking retard, holy shit
I'm not even gonna read the rest of your post, your opening statement was so mindnumbingly stupid that nothing else you wrote could possibly be worth reading.
Just watch this for a basic understanding of how it's ""better""
https://youtu.be/zViM8X_w2EQ

im planning to upgrade my dinosaur wacom bamboo, is it the pen tilt really life changing?
im planning to get the intuos pro, but i dont know i i ever gonna use the pen tilt function.

>>6242547
Buy wacom.

That is all.

>>6242547
Buy Wacom, Huion, or XP-Pen.

That is all.

Should I bother with an Ipad/galaxy or just get one of the screenless tablets? I don't plan on drawing digitally outside of my home and I live in a very dangerous place that I wouldn't feel comfortable taking something nice anyways?

Buy Huion or XP-Pen.

Wacom is overpriced and outdated.

That is all.

>>6245973
t. Wubei Zhao

>>6245973
Nah, Wacom is still best in class. The difference between them and Huion (xp pen is good too, but they're a bit behind still) is just so small that there's not much reason to shell out the extra cash for them unless you're getting reimbursed for it, or you have money to blow.

>>6245986
Like I said Wacom is overpriced.

>>6245993
yeah but you also said they were outdated
They haven't really updated their line much in a long time, but they're still the best you can buy.

>>6245997
In terms of what? They have lower screen brightness and worse color accuracy for the display models and there's no difference between their pen tablet technology and different brand's pen tablet technology.

Best you can buy is a stretch.

>>6246024
>They have lower screen brightness and worse color accuracy for the display models
according to what? They're the only company that's said to be calibrated out of the box. Every company lies to some extent about their specs, but huion and xp pen are pretty egregious compared to wacom.
Wacom customer support is also a bit less dogshit than chinese companies that will just leave you with your dick waving in the wind should any problems arise.

If I were absolutely pissing money, no question I would buy a cintiq. I didn't think they were worth it though and just got a kamvas 22 plus for $350 instead, and have been very happy with it.

>>6246039
compare these numbers to this
https://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/peripherals/monitors/wacom-cintiq-27qhd-touch/

If you feel like digging through all that shit be my guest, but basically their numbers even on an outdated display are a bit better in every way than huion's flagship.

They're not different enough to matter, but they're still technically best in class.

I was about to order pic related for $45, but then I noticed an amazon suggestion for a wireless numberpad for $12 and realized it was the exact same thing minus a dial
is it worth spending and extra 30 bucks for a dial?

>>6246039
>>6246046
>calibrated out of the box
All the displays are inaccurate out of the box doesn't matter what brand. Once calibrated Wacom's displays are worse in range, accuracy, and they are less bright, it's just a fact. Cintiq's fans are notorious for being extremely loud and prone to breakage, they didn't release a firmware update for the fans until 3-4 years later. Their newest Cintiq Pro 16 model that was released 9 months ago has a defect where the screen is distorted and separated from the case, this still has not been fixed or addressed by the way.

>Wacom customer support is also a bit less dogshit than chinese companies
Wacom is made in China on the same assembly lines as Huion and XP-Pen and their support is infamously bad, they still send physical checks for refunds months after you request one.

>but basically their numbers even on an outdated display are a bit better in every way than huion's flagship
So you're saying a Cintiq 27QHD specs are better than a Kamvas 4K? Delusional or blind?

>they're still technically best in class
So again I'm asking, best in class in terms of what?

>>6242549
Retarded wacom employee trying their best to sell their shitty product

>>6246078
>Wacom is made in China on the same assembly lines as Huion and XP-Pen
They're still not a chinese company. They're a japanese company that manufactures their products in china. I've heard bad things about every company's customer support, but I've heard worse things about chinese companies in comparison. I could be wrong about whos is worse though.

>So you're saying a Cintiq 27QHD specs are better than a Kamvas 4K? Delusional or blind?
kamvas 4k: 100% sRGB, 95% AdobeRGB, 201 nits maximum brightness
Cintiq 27qhd (can't find calibrated numbers for a pro 24 for some reason and obviously don't trust wacom's numbers): 100% sRGB, 98% AdobeRGB, 219 nits maximum brightness

Both calibrated used a Spyder5 colorimeter.

How is the kamvas better?

>>6246095
>They're still not a chinese company.

UwU watch out because Gensin is not a chinese company, bud get the fuck out, this shit is made in china samsung iphone any shit you use is in china.

xp-pen has issues however from my experience they replaced my unit twice they paid for postage and refunded me the money no questions asked.

Fucking wacom shat their ass when i asked for a replacement cable and only send me a measly message of welp this product is 4 years old shit if i know you can find replacement cables in a shitter or ebay bye, closed the ticket.

You get what you paid for

>>6246105
>bud get the fuck out, this shit is made in china samsung iphone any shit you use is in china.
Okay...? That doesn't make any of them Chinese companies. Where a company is based out of has nothing to do with where their products are manufactured. I'm not the wacom shill that loses his mind over them damn chineses.

Good to know xp pen has better customer service than wacom though. One less reason to ever consider buying their products.

>>6246089
Oh, how so chang? By posting a video demonstrating how crap chinese tablets are? by recommending used wacoms? aka, wacom tablets that wacom don't actually profit from?

you're such an idiot, zhang xD

>>6246095
>They're a japanese company that manufactures their products in china
I've been telling him this for like 3 years now. Don't even bother, this spastic just refuses to see the difference.

>>6246095
>>6246139
lmao so if an authentic pizza recipe from Italy is sent to your local pizza shop that is known for their broken oven that cooks unevenly and a chef that over seasons their food then the pizza he makes is 1:1 authentic Italian pizza?

how the fuck does that make sense to you retards, it doesn't matter if the design is japanese if the actual manufacturing process is done by chinese people

if the parts are made in china, the product is assembled in china, and every hand that touches it prior to yours is chinese, then by all objective measure the device is chinese

I swear its like im talking to 3rd graders with downs syndrome its hilarious

>>6246206
I said the COMPANY is japanese, I'm not even trying to argue it's a Japanese product. Just the it's a company based out of Japan. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>6246210
>the PIZZA SHOP in Italy is italian!!
and that is relevant how? enlighten me

me you and everyone else are still getting occasionally fucked up pizzas from bobs pizza shack on the corner, so whats your point dumbass

A master pizza maker from Italy travels to the United States. He uses locally sourced fresh ingredients to make his signature Pizza. The recipe and ingredients are 1:1 exactly what he would use when making pizza in Italy.
Is the pizza Italian, or American?

>>6246215
>and that is relevant how?
Because I was talking about their customer service, not their products. Wacom's customer service has absolutely nothing to do with China you dumb cunt. I called them a japanese company and you sperged out and started talking about how they're made in the same factory as huion and xp pen (which is probably wrong anyway, even if they're all made in china)

>>6246222
>Wacom's customer service has absolutely nothing to do with China you dumb cunt
and you would still be making a retarded statement because wacoms customer service has absolutely nothing to do with japan or japanese people either?

their customer service is literally region based, so ur getting pablo taco on the line being paid 15/hour which has nothing to do with wacom as a japanese company

also since youre a complete retard, huion and xp-pen also have region based customer service, crazy I know, and instead of pablo taco youre getting his cousin christiano burrito

>>6246228
I'm still not sure why you got so assblasted when I merely differentiated wacom from chinese companies.

>>6246239
>still doesnt understand that wacom is a chinese brand
-pats head- its ok little retard, i had fun babysitting you. maybe we can try again later (:

>>6246271
Wrong
Wacom is a Taiwanese brand.

>>6246275
isn't taiwan a province of China?

>this thread overlooks tablet for the purpose of sculpting
Yansculpts uses XP Pen

>>6246277
Depends who you ask

>>6246281
noooooooooooooooooooooooo no professional would EVER use anything other than wacom or apple!

>>6246287

this but unironically

>>6246281
He uses a huion 24 4k now

311 a refurbished galaxy tab wtf stupid shitsung

>>6246290
This.

The inconvenient truth that Dong Hoang keeps avoiding is that he can't name even one single professional studio that use chinese tablets.

It's easy for him to point to some artist on twitter doing a paid promotion, or any one of those shill reviews on youtube, but at the end of the day, all the pro studios use Wacom.

>>6246313
But... but why is yansculpts using a huion tablet? What's going on? Why are there professional artists buying huion or xp pen and using them without saying anything about it???? I'm scared :(

>>6246325
sniff sniff smells like cope

>>6246331
But... but why are they doing it? Don't they know wacom is the only option?! HELP ME I'M SO SCARED OF HAVING OPTIONS! BRING BACK THE TABLET MONOPOLY PLEASEEEEEEEE

>>6246313
nobody gets fired for buying wacom, it's as simple as that

>>6246325
>But... but why is yansculpts using a huion tablet?
Not a studio, chinese idiot.
I'm sure there are ecelebs who cheap out on chinese garbage, especially if they get sponsored to. Doesn't change the fact that studios refuse to deploy chinese tablets, or that 99.9% of pro-level artists use either a Wacom or an iPad.

>>6246350
>99.9% of pro-level artists use either a Wacom or an iPad.
I would like to see where you got this statistic from.

>>6246350
>I'm sure there are ecelebs who cheap out on chinese garbage
Agreed, that's why I don't buy Chinese garbage like Wacom.

>>6246275
>>6246277
>>6246284
Saying Wacom is a Taiwanese brand is like the same thing as saying X product is a Shanghainese brand. They are all genetically and culturally Chinese.

This is by far the worst general on all of 4chan. You've inspired me to stop coming to this shithole and actually draw more with the time I'd otherwise be wasting here.
Fuck all of you, especially the wacumguzzler.

>>6246406
amen, but i like coming here to piss off the wacumguzzler and watch him cry then get his posts deleted by jannies

A guy in my town is selling this for about $80. It's cracked but the guy says it doesn't affect the pressure, and you don't feel the cracks on the screen as you draw. Should I buy it? I never owned a tablet before even less a screen tablet and I just wanna draw, my concern is if the cracks will eventually evolve into a major issue. Anybody here had a cracked tablet screen before?

>>6246434
Also forgot to mention that I'm poor as fuck and this is the only screen tablet I'd be able to afford in a long time.

>>6246441
screens arent really that worthwhile. just get a screenless for around 100 if you can.

>>6246434
Nah, this doesn't look like a good experience, you will likely have to replace it anyway, so why waste 80$ at all. Get a screenless tablet, they are much cheaper. You don't really need a screen tablet to begin with.

>>6246053
If you want to buy pic related note that u can’t combine 2 buttons at the same time. Eg if you set 1 button as Ctrl and another as Z and press them together the computer will only register either Ctrl only or Z only

>>6246484
So just set 1 button to ctrl z...

>>6246406
>wacumguzzler
kek

>>6246053
What is the point of this

>>6246475
i didnt elaborate on this even though i wanted to, but I use both and started screenless.

no matter what type you use, size is important most of all, going small sucks and being limited to minute wrist movements isnt nice, and theres really good screenless tablets that are like printer paper sized drawing field at minimum (i use huion giano, but if you can find one its drivers might suck, not sure these days)

theyre also more simple, which generally translates to more robust for a poorfag, so it's the smarter option overall

>>6247287
shortcuts and a wheel on a convenient remote you can put anywhere to improve your workflow.

>>6246406
Ai is taking over what's the point.

>>6247530
Embarrassing idiot.

I'll trade someone my switch for one of their old drawing tablets

email me godalmighty221 proton.me

>>6242547

>>6242549

>>6247806
>t. Liu Zhao Bei

>>6247806
Wacom looks way more fun to hang out with, eat some dope Southeast Asian/Pacifc Islander food, watch some nerdy bullshit, coom, have genuine conversation, etc

>>6247924
you have low standards.
Gaomon looks like she'd be the most fun to hang out with

I'm using a Wacaom Intuos Pro (PTH-460) and have been for several years and while it's good, lately I've been feeling this frustrating feeling of a disconnect between me and digital art that I'm just not getting with traditional art. Even though I've been doing digital for like 10 years, traditional, especially lately, feels so much more comfortable that digital art has become frustrating.

Should I invest in a Wacom Cintiq, or any other screen tablet? Does that feel closer to traditional art or is that "feeling" still there? Thanks in advance.

>>6248191
Go to an apple store and try out an iPad. It should give you some idea on how digital art with a display feels.

I'm a bit new to drawing tablets and am trying to set up the Wacom One I recently got but the drivers keep screwing me, anyone dealt with this issue and fixed it? My PC can recognize it as a monitor and I can drag my mouse around on it so it isn't the hardware, just the driver not being able to see it, I've tried resetting and using different versions of the drivers but got nada.

>>6247824

>>6242547
>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
>Fuck off retard. Ask a better question.

WTF is wrong with the Wacom One?

ayyy, chinese tablet very good indeed. dont pay attention to those cucumber stems strokes! this is the power of 8k preassure levels!!! order now, put my code (almostasgoodaswacom) at the checkout

>>6246434
nope, like when you drop your phone and the screen cracks and black ink blotches appear later from the LCD

>>6248365
Question are you retard? You get what you pay for

I have a question I commission artists for artwork but can't justice high cost anymore If I want to learn to draw Should I get a screen less tablet or screen? Brand does not matter.

>>6249136
Best post today

What is good enough 16 inch screen tablet? I don't want wobbly pen mainly.

Is it worth it to upgrade to an S7 FE from an S6 lite if I'm doing it mostly for more drawing area? I can get the S7 new for under $400, and I'd sell the S6 which I'd imagine would recuperate a chunk of that.

hey guys so I - oh wait this is the stupid /dtg/ that insults everyone for attempting to discuss

inb4 wHy sO aNgSty ChaNG
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What huion tablets are good? I understand newer models have better pens and less parallax? But which are those?

>>6249777
>t. Liu Zhao Bei

>>6249781
OP, let me handle this one for you

ANON ARE YOU FCKN DAFT? HUION?!!?!?!?
WACOM GANG NIGGA WHAT YOU DONT WANT GOOD PEN TILT OR SOMETHING? YOU DONT WANT AN ERASER ON YOUR PEN? YOU WANT PARALLAX?!
Cant afford Wacom? IPAD NIGGA craigslist that shit right fcn nw

and SHUT UP ZHANG

How did I do?

>>6249827
Chang slowly losing his marbles lmao

>>6246281
You don't really need much pen pressure for cg. A lot of sculptors use the intuos non pro.

>>6249781
get the newest/biggest you can afford.
If you want a tablet with a screen, get a plus/pro model since they have etched glass displays.

>>6249827

this but un-retardedly

>>6249928
Any videos of non pro intuos sculpting use?

>>6250059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irWAjPQyYzg
This guy uses one by wacom.

>Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9"
>Best option for a display tablet.
someone redpill me on why the second gen is recommended over the 3rd gen ipad pro? It's not really that much more expensive for the 3rd gen and you seem to get a lot more bang for your buck when you compare them side by side.

>>6246434
Just save a bit more anon

>>6250351
My 2nd gen pro 12.9 has 4gigs of ram. Procreate is fine at higher resolutions with layers. I think I’m capped at like 3 or 4 if the canvas is 9k by 12k. It does chug in CSP tho and my screen auto dims if I’m at 100 brightness for like 5 minutes. Not a huge issue because i don’t need it, but still. Im considering selling my iPad intuos and old iPad for a 2021 16 gig. I wouldn’t mind the extra power for whatever new procreate feature they add for clip.

>>6249928
exactly.

>>6246434
>small cracked chinese brand. you really are making the worst possible purchase across all possible worlds

is it possible to disable tablet's wheel? Mine always malfunctioning everytime I tab out the drawing software.

>>6250351
Op is a poorfag that thinks whatever shit he has is the best, and nothing else is usable.
The 3rd gen is better, even if ONLY for the 2nd gen apple pencil.

can someone purchase a Gaomon PD2200 and compare it with a Cintiq 16. Need to know if smallet tab worth it

>>6250534
Yeah bro let me just drop $1000 ro tell some random faggot on 4chan which tablet is better.
Huion 22 plus is the best bang for your buck on the market currently. Amazing color quality, etched glass, good brightness, good size
Only downside is 1080p instead of 1440p or 4k.

>>6250562
they could post it on Youtube though.

>>6250620
>>6250620
plus im not gay

>>6250620
Oh man you're right, nevermind that's totally worth the money then. They might bring in 30 cents of ad revenue from making the video!

Use a piece of paper the size of both tablets, figure whatever drawing program's UI will take up 1/6 of the screen on both sides, and see what size you prefer.

>>6250623
how's that a plus?

>>6250562
Not buying your trash, Zhang.

>>6250678
You aren't buying anything, retard. You're too poor for anything newer than an intuos 3 your mom got you at a yardsale.

>>6250683
I actually have an iPad Pro 3rd gen + Apple Pencil and a Galaxy Tab. Good job exposing your stupidity again, Xing.

>>6250692
So you bought 2 mid priced tablets that serve the exact same purpose and are trying to call someone else an idiot?

>>6250769
Yes. You're the one who spends about 18 hours every day crying in the tablet genera on /ic/ :)

>>6250773
Yikes

>>6242547
>Also watch out, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/; they do a lot of samefagging and frequently hurl personal insults.
Hypocrite.

>>6248590
Is this the power of Chinese tablet brands? Wow.

>>6246325
lmaoooooo

>>6246350

>cheap out

>>6251406
Ok so I own 2 huions, 1 intuos pro and 1 cintiq can confirm that pressure glitch happens on the huions only. Wacom doesn't ever do this. No i am not a shill on both sides I'm just a random anon who owns 2 brands you guys keep spurging over for idk since the inception of /ic/ O guess.

>>6250514
you're right about the 2nd gen pencil but also usb c and the much smaller bezels easily make it worth the $100 to $150 extra dollars over the 2nd gen

>>6251695
>I own 2 huions, 1 intuos pro and 1 cintiq
Show

OH NO CHANG SISTERS, WE WERE TOO COCKY!!

I just happened upon a second-hand Tab S6 Lite (2019 model) this week and I've been using it every day. Ask me anything if you have questions regarding this tablet.

Tech side things I can say about it:
- The bloatware was minimal for once (might be country specific), only had Netflix and the usual jewgle apps
- I reset then removed all the apps I didn't want with ADBAppcontrol, including Samsung ones, installed Apex Launcher (v3.3.3) and the system is now pretty lightweight and straightforward, I haven't installed an adblocker yet since I'm mostly offline
- SPen is really responsive but it often depends on the app you're using, some apps suck, some apps are really tight and snappy with it
- I thought the pen would be bigger, I'm looking into getting a Staedtler Digital soon but otherwise it feels fine on your hand, it pales in comparison to Apple pencil though
- SPen button is a bit too high up for my taste, it only has one button
- SPen tilt and pressure sensitivity work fine
- Screen is sharp and the colors are good
- No fingerprint reader, cameras have okay quality

Drawing stuff:
- I tried 7 drawing apps so far: Ibis Paint X, Clip Studio Paint, Krita, Infinite Painter, Medibang, Concepts and Sketchbook
>Ibis Paint X
Riddled with ads, didn't even bother drawing, uninstalled right away
>Clip Studio Paint
It's my main program on PC but here it's fairly slow and the UX isn't made for touch screens. Feels too encumbered, uninstalled
>Krita
Same as CSP, extremely slow to load, bad PC-like UX, uninstalled
>Infinite Painter
Really like this one, straightforward and easy to understand, free version is fairly complete for the most basic stuff, very responsive, can erase with touch and draw with pen, good selection of brushes you can customize
>Medibang
Better UI than CSP and Krita, performance is okay, has everything you could need, too many unbearable ads, uninstalled

...cont.

>>6251842
>Concepts
I like this one the most I think, really fast and snappy, easy to use and configure, good selection of gestures and palm rejection, probably the best UX of all the apps I tested, love the color wheel and the way you can select tools, free version has limited layers and no selection, one time purchase is appealing
>Sketchbook
Already had used this quite a bit on PC and here it's the same, fast to launch and responsive, good UX, very natural brush response, has corner shortcuts but the gestures are fairly limited, has all the tools you need, no ads, no asking for money, good app

That's it.

>>6251797
no one has ever said anything to the contrary you fucking retard

>>6251842
>Ibis Paint X
I had a tab s6 for a while a few years ago and I used ibis. It was okay and I don't know if they still do it but they used to have a lifetime no ads membership for a few dollars.

>>6251797
so this is a power of wacom boichi use it for his manga like dr. stone and sun-ken rock.
now lets see the power of mangaka who draw on huion tablets how do they comp-ACK!!!

Does anyone know of a macropad or mini keypad for Android? I hate not having keyboard shortcuts but I don't want a full-blown keyboard either.

>>6252115
search for "half keyboard bluetooth"

>>6252055
I don't get it
is this supposed to be bad?

>>6251842
Just want to add, the battery consumption is really good. I spent 2.5 hours drawing with the screen on and the battery only lost 2%.

Apparently CSP has a more touch friendly UI you need to enable it, but god knows why it isn't the default.

>>6251912
There are much better (free) apps, no reason to use that imo.

>>6252055
>sun-ken rock
I wouldn't really use this as a selling point for wacom lmao

>>6251842
didn't try Artflow?

Is there any easy way to move a file with layer information from procreate to desktop CSP?
I tried saving as a .psd, but I can't open it with csp.

>>6252561
Just did now.

>Artflow
Pretty straightforward app, limited gesture options (can only pan the canvas?), menus keep auto-hiding and you need to press a button in the corner to show them again with no option to disable that behavior (annoying), good selection of brushes with lots of options to tune them, limited undos/redos (lol) and no touch gestures for them, no text tool, I can feel a slight latency compared to other apps

Also tried
>Tayasui Sketches
Simple app, doesn't have palm rejection, need to spend money to use the color picker, limited options

>>6252648
I think Adobe might have changed something in the newer .psd format but CSP can open and export as .psd typically.

>>6252656
I know it can normally, but it's not letting me currently.
according to google, csp can only open 8 bit .psd documents. I see no way to change any export settings in procreate though to save it as an 8 bit document.

>>6252666
nevermind, it just decided to work now.

>>6250562
on the other hand you could do that and then return it to own Amazon and all the companies that sell through Amazon. Excessive returns kills the globalism merchant. I've made like $10k worth of returns in the last year.
Any company that is dumb enough to sell through Amazon deserves it. Fuck Amazon.

>>6252821
That's what I did, then ended up buying cheaper elsewhere after returning everything

>>6243130
Jumping off this question, there's a Wacom Intuos Pro Large on my local Craigslist for $150. Is this a decent buy, or is it a waste of money considering current tech? Surely it's almost a decade old by now, right?

https://greenbay.craigslist.org/sop/d/green-bay-wacom-intuos-pro-large-tablet/7528195350.html

>>6253072
How different can pen tablets really be? It'a a slab of plastic you draw on. As long as it accurately tracks your pen and has working pressure/tilt, I don't see how one would be substantially different from another other than size.

>>6253072
Looks like an older version of the current Intuos Pro, although I don't think they changed much except the packaging. That's still one of the best if not the best non screen tablets imo and they usually sell for 300+. The L model is pretty big.

However I still wouldn't buy it myself, that's up to you though.

I lost my cintiq tablet pen. Do I have to buy an exact replica or will any tablet pen do?

>>6253464
just check your tablet specs first. I know the Intous can use like 5 different pens.

>>6253542
Retarded question but what are specs?

>>6253555
specifications

>>6253567
Thanks!

Am a bigger artist as in I never drawn in my life and need a hobby.

Is the one Wacom ok for a bigger or should I get a refurbished Wacom screen?

>>6253795
You have to buy cintiq pro 32inch, otherwise don't even start learning to draw.

>>6253798
Anon fuck off /ic/ is for advice kys

>>6253795
It's ok but go to Wacom website if you find a refurbished cintiq or pro get it

>>6248590
Is that XP deco? Got a link to video? Are those just quick strokes? I could try to recreate it if I find tablet.

>>6253072
honestly I'm using intuos 3 which is from like 2014? And it's legit fantastic, you really don't need a fancy new tablet

Besides the obvious brush size up/down and undo what else do you use express keys for?

>>6254090
>2014
try 2004.

i think i bought a cintiq too soon lol, it was a good deal on a pro 13 but I literally don't want to use it when trad media is superior for learning. the friction on good paper is almost meditative, and being able to switch the medium can't be understated.

maybe when i start learning rendering I'll try it but for right now it's just sitting in a plastic sleeve. digital is pain.

>>6254090
>>6253072
A mint intuos 3 L for that price is probably most ideal if buying used, those things are immortal and last 15+ years. Otherwise with worn surfaces it won't really matter I guess which of their pro line screenless tabs you get. Although I hear worse reliability issues from intuos 5 onward.

/dtg/ schizo, if AI art takes over you're out of a job. Wacom will go bankrupt, along with artists. Won't you use your powers for good, and fight alongside us?

>>6254157
sounds retarded

Update since I wanted to give one final fuck you to the shithead crabs here, especially the wacumguzzler.
I've drawn a LOT more and am overall much happier avoiding /ic/ entirely. Haven't been here in days and likely won't come back after this post.
So yeah, go buy chink shit just to spite op and to save money, fuck crabs, and fuck all the nodraws here. Bye faggots

>>6254186
No fuck you all I can't wait to save money when a ai can do all my commissions and you all kys

>>6254138
fwiw i never use express keys. In my setup it's left hand on keyboard/right hand on pen

>>6254138
Fullscreen, turn, eraser/brush, redo, move

chad move: Say fuck the tablet buttons, grab an xbox/playstation controller, and rebind those buttons through steam or some other external software. You can get 4 analog inputs PER THUMBSTICK for all sorts of shit, not to mention a ton of buttons for all your other shortcuts.

>>6254182
For what it's worth the newer models of intuos pros have replaceable surfaces. They're like $40 each which isn't obscenely terrible considering that it's wacom.

>>6254570
Using one on handed is neither ergonomic nor better than a dedicated remote.

How important is pixel density? I have chance to buy 16inch 1440p, and 22inch 1080p for the same money.

>>6255236
It's not really that important.
T. Drew on an iPad pro (even higher pixels density than the 1440p 16") and now 22" 1080p.

People put out professional work with 1080p for many years.

Tablet closest to traditional? So fucking easy to draw to my max skill on paper. I feel nerfed on digital even though I've been using it for 7 years.

>>6255238

professionals are not the most tech savvy so your opinion is moot.

>>6255367
>tech savvy
I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make exactly. Are you saying what professionals used is irrelevant because they don't jerk off to meaningless specs?

>>6242547
>Wacom One
>One by Wacom
I don''t use a tablet but this seems like a really strange choice to name your two separate products this lol

Anyone know which version of the Wacom Cintiq this is? Someone is selling it locally for $100.

>>6255736
I think that's the first version. That was sold in intuos3 years. It doesn't have best screen, and gets pretty warm from what I heard. Also there is stutter bug in newer os that can be resolved with having lazy nezumi enabled and set to 0, i read about it on polycount forums. For 100 I would get this. It's still usable despite being old, i think intuos 3 pen can be used with this. Also this is pretty much collector item by now, a piece of digital art history.

>>6255736
Looks like a cintiq 21ux
If you check ebay they typically sell for about $100+shipping
Get it if you want it. They were like $2000 back in 2010 when they came out.
iirc it's a 1600x1200 monitor with 2048 levels of pressure sensitivity if you care about that.

>>6255155
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree. I've got the left thumbstick bound to undo/redo on the left/right axis and brush size set to up/down. Then I just bound the right bumper as a chord button and set RB+up/down/left/right to change my painting parameters. Holding the thumbstick to the left for 2 seconds sure beats spamming an undo key 20 times, and I haven't even needed to bind anything to the right side of the controller yet so all of my shortcuts are within reach of my left hand.

These things are already specifically designed to be used comfortably and ergonomically for long sessions, why would you bother trying to reinvent the wheel?

>>6255995
>These things are already specifically designed to be used comfortably and ergonomically for long sessions
not one handed they aren't
if it works for you though, cool. I'll stick to a $10 wireless keypad

Is there a cheaper alternative to these texture sheet things for wacoms?

>iPad Pro at the top of the recommendations
Real shit? Last time I checked it was all about the cintiqs. Is the iPad really that good? I can get that for a fraction of the price of a cintiq wtf
Has anyone tried both? How do they compare?

>>6256388
I have an ipad pro and it's fine but it just makes me wish I had a cintiq

>>6256388
Its good but a cintiq is better other than portability. Its is probably top when accounting for prices.

>>6256444
Which one normal or pro?

This is cope, right?

>>6257168
depends. my school used to have an old (probably broken?) cintiq that heated up to the surface temperature of the sun and literally made you blind/unable to see farther than your hand after using it for just 30 minutes.
these shitty small ones are portable enough you can throw em in your backpack together with your laptop, without having to shell out for a companion or whatever they're called nowadays. also, not having your hand on the very screen youre drawing on might be a plus for some people, but i personally dont care either way.
i currently have both a wacom intuos pro m (used to literally have the "shitty" intuos pen small before, it was totally fine) and an ipad pro. i use both and don't really prefer one over the other.

>>6257168
There are pros and cons to each.
A lot of pros use both in their workflow

>>6257168
I don't like covering the artwork with my hand so a tablet is better for me. Had a cintique 22 and didn't like it.

>>6257343
>I don't like covering the artwork with my hand
so you're shit at traditional art?

>>6257345
I do 3d sculpture.

>moved on from wacom one to ipad pro
wacombros…

I got a tab a for a good price. i need a hard tip pen for art. Any suggestions?

Is the dell ultra sharp 27 a pretty standard monitor to pair with a large intuos? My current monitor is definitely fine, but colors are dick.

>Drawing Tablet
lmfao
picrel is all that I need for my prompts

I have a One by Wacom. How do I become good at drawing? I want to draw anime characters

>>6259056
HAHAHAHAHA EPIC XD AI LOOOOL

>>6259056
Get with the times grandpa, this is what we use to prompt these days.

t. prompt engineer making 250k/year

>buy chink tablet
>it comes defective

>>6259487
you use a phone from like 8 years ago?

>>6259737
Rip

>buy refurbished chink tablet
>it works flawlessly
:)

>>6257343
This, I have a 13.5 display tablet and I very much prefer using my old small Wacom pen and touch for serious work.

>>6259737
it's over chinabros

>>6260600
Oh no oh no
>>6259737
>>6259793
How can this be?

Anyone interested in splitting the cost of any of the 3 products on here? https://tradigitalgoods.com/
-Eden-#3101 on Discord if so!

>>6260611
Yeah man, let's split the hat. You wear it Mondays Tuesdays and Fridays, I get it Wednesdays, Thursdays, and weekends.

>>6260617
Lmao I should probably have clarified I meant their 3 brushsets

Although desu I'm down, let's get a hat

What mode do you guys use? I tried drawing a picture of a cat anon posted yesterday, but my back started to hurt from having to look down 60 degrees for hours. I'm thinking I should put it in mouse mode instead, and have it to the side of my actual mouse, then I can look up at my actual monitor. Is that how people normally use their tablets?

I'm still pretty much a beg

>>6260675
Is it a display tablet?

>>6260694
yes, it's a wacom cintiq pro 13

How good of a deal is a cintiq 22hd for $300'?

Tried the ipad in a store today
why the fuck is the nib hard plastic and thick as fuck
It makes trying to use it almost impossible compared to the samsung tablet they had

>>6261139
https://www.ebay.com/p/1530305241
>>6261187
it's shit to draw on without a screen protector

>>6248365
To answer your question, you get a small barebone screen tablet with an outdated pen, when you can buy a Kamvas, Ipad, or Samsung Tablet, all options with better features, for almost the exact same price

I just got a Huion™ Keydial™ for 20 bucks on ebay.
it's pretty nifty. I only have about half of the keys assigned to anything though.
for $50, it's not worth at all. but for 20 bucks I'm happy.

>>6261198
What kind of screen protectors? This one is basically brand new with pen seeks to be some richish person who just blight it on a whim and used it for an hour

>>6261431
matte paper-feel protectors.
paperlike
elecom
bellemond

any screen protector specifically made to feel like writing on paper. The ipad is dogshit without one.

>>6260675
>>6260706
>I tried drawing a picture of a cat anon posted yesterday, but
Prop it up on something so that you can see the entire canvas by looking down with your eyes as opposed to your entire head.

> I'm thinking I should put it in mouse mode instead, and have it to the side of my actual mouse
If you do it this way you'll get inaccurate lines, if you want to use it as a pen tablet then keep it centered with your monitor.

>>6261485
Why did you not use AI? Fuck you all

>>6261745
>AI
dont care

>>6261745
is this fun to you? I don't get it

>>6252055
nihongogamer still trying to do art? really needs to give up...

>>6261788
>>6261799
Yes I laugh at you and fap with your tears

>>6242547
hey guys, anybody here uses wacom intuos pro large? is the size a big difference compared to the medium? cant decide if im gonna get large or medium

>>6262032
Cut a piece of paper/cardboard the size of each tablet and pretend to use it.

>>6262046
New thread
>>6262046
:)
>>6262046

>>6262048
oh no...

I'm just going to kill this thread before op blows a head gasket

>>6262075
https://youtu.be/noL7BesIQgs

>>6262082
https://youtu.be/IaooGghYRL4

>>6262085
https://youtu.be/VOyQbBBuRrc

>>6262089
https://youtu.be/FfuiNZ4Fdj0

>>6262094
https://youtu.be/lzgilRc6CoQ

>>6262098
https://youtu.be/bhs9l8qRTww

>>6262102
https://youtu.be/N6A1rSU6Lm8

>>6262106
https://youtu.be/gHUw7l2EX3s

>>6262111
https://youtu.be/KlBDEezxjiw
Okay I'm done now. Enjoy these thread relevant videos.

>>6242798
What about XP-Pen though? Are they just as good these days?

is the huion h610 pro v2 good? it was recommended by a friend.

>>6242687
It's a 4chan mod

>>6262205
if it was recommended by a friend, do you have the chance to try it out for yourself in person?
if you're a beginner, any tablet would probably be fine, even if wacoms pen recognition is still better and theyre generally more reliable and sturdy/less prone to breaking (in my opinion)
judging from the reviews, be prepared to fiddle with the driver though.

>84+ deletions
You've outdone yourself this time, Chang. Imagine being this desperate to spam in order to create a new shill thread, only to have all your posts purged like the idiot you are.

>>6242595
>>6242678
>>6244164
>>6244229
>>6246210

not to mention all of this:
>>6262119
>>6262111
>>6262106
>>6262102

Such a sad little moron.

Is the huion h610 pro V2 good?

>>6262608
I can't, he sold it when he was able to buy a xp-pen, he told me it was because he wanted a screen not because the huion was bad

>>6262631
looked through some more amazon reviews, it really seems to be better to buy from amazon in this regard because huions customer service sucks and some people got a used product with no pen/glove. better to have the option to return it.
beginners seem to be pretty happy with it, so it fells like a decent beginner tablet with a medium size.

wow this thread got insanely shorter with all the shill samefagging comments gone

>>6262786
How much does wacom pay to shill for them?

>>6262950
You literally just had all your posts purged, Chang.

whats the difference between the wacom intuos pro paper edition and normal besides the paperclip and pen that comes with it?

>>6264080
>https://estore.wacom.com/en-US/wacom-paper-clip-ack42213.html
no difference at all. You can even buy the paperclip separate and put it on your intuos realize you want one later but already bought an intuos pro.

>>6264627
if you realize* I'm not ESL, it's just early.

>>6263936
U

>>6262650
and what about this one? XP Pen DECO 01 V2
its a bit more expensive but it seems to be really good based on what reviewers say.

>>6249781
the rt series (rtm, rtp...) is the newest one with their new pen
dunno about the ones with display though

>>6264690
if theyre both from the same country then why does chink brands tablets are always so shitty and dont work properly while wacom products always come in perfect state? hmmmm really makes u think haha

third-worlder artist fag, here!

A folk is selling a 2nd hand Cintiq 24HD with manoufacturing dated in 2013.
He claims be the only one owner. Asks 800 usd for it. Should I purchase it or buy a Huion Kamvas 22+.

>>6265566
Wacom and Apple design the product but make the product in china because is cheap to produce.

>>6265570
$800 for the 2013 one seems like way too much compaired to what I see on ebay. Can you haggle with them? It also seems to only have 2k levels of pressure while the other has 8k but idk how much that really matters to you. I dont really know much about the Huion though.

How often should you replace your tablet?
I've had mine for 3 years and there are bumps and scratched on it, to a point i wonder if some of them are on the canvas or not.

Thinking about buying an Ipad Pro 2nd Gen Used.

"...it may have a little light leakage and possibly one dead pixel on that side(those are examples of what you may see). Might be hard to see. I just wanted to describe as good as possible. Top power button seems a little pressed in but works fine. Other than that it looks great. Minor scratches/dents. Everything was inspected and functions fine, battery health is good as well"

Do you think it is worth it or should I get a refurbished one?

>>6248590
I've used an Xp Pen tablet for 6 years (deco 01 v1) and yes , it falls flat in some aspects (lines specially) but it provided a very good drawing experience - it gave me line opacity and line weight , the precision problem was easily mitigated by getting used to the hardware , just like how a watercolor artist getting used to the feeling of using oils
these line in the photograph attached are made using the Wacom intuos pro model pth-851 - ive been using it for a year now and i can safely say that the build quality of wacom is superior that of xp pen's , but xp pen is also good as it provided me means to practice my art .
youre the thinking human , you have to adapt to the capability of your tools , nitpicking will only get you nowhere and just give you desires / wants for better upgrades thinking it would make you good , despite all the tools you need are already in your art program .

>>6253072
im using a large model too , pth 851
and honestly it felt different cause of the large drawing area - but i got used to it in less than a week
the 1k pen pressure is no biggie , here is the settings i use so it feels natural , you also gotta do the force proportion thing since the tablet might not be properly mapped to your screen

I want to make comics. I'm about to pull the trigger on an IPad but I want to know this, will I be cucked using CSP on a IPad Pro 2018? If I am I'll just buy the newest IPad Pro. Thx

>>6266650
2018 is fine.

How to draw on a tablet with Windows 10? Finger drags canvas instead of drawing when I touch the screen. (Don't want android, cheap ones laggy as hell and fast ones are expensive as hell. And I needn't pressure, rotation etc.)

has anyone else's tablet struggled to turn on after long periods of time and just sits and pulls the cursor to the center of your screen for a minute or two? i feel like it's a driver issue but who knows

>>6253072
just got my intuos pro large and i think its too big, the extra space is unnecessary. its better if you buy a brand new medium sized tablet

what is the best option for me?
I am on windows (desktop) and don't really have the deskspace (also its just annoying setting up) for a full tablet (currently have the XP-PEN Artist22E Pro)

is there a better graphics tablet? or should I go with something like the S8+ and use the screen share shit?

>>6268552
S8+ is good

>>6267820
Help please. I cant find or google the setting to disable one-finger-scroll on Win10 tablet touchscreen.

do you guys know any professional artist that uses a wacom intuous small?

>>6269867
yes

>>6269796
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/111017-turn-off-ignore-touch-input-when-using-pen-windows-10-a.html

chillin on my xp-pen artist 12
comfy times bros

>>6268897
uk what, after looking it up. I'm back and forth. I'm not sure if I might just want to get an iPad pro instead of an S8+. like connecting to PC might be a bit harder. but it seems apps and stuff is better on the iPad. also I don't own a single apple product, so maybe having one would be good.

>>6270908
there is little difference between the software anymore. krita on android is fine.

>>6270432
who?

I want to upgrade from my older wacom bamboo to intuos, mostly because of the buttons. The thing is the intuos buttons are at the top, and I want to ask, is that even comfortable, or its just a waste of money? The pro would be a lot better choice, but I can't afford that.

>>6272083
i thought buttons were just a meme?
i have an intuos pro but have only recently "trained" myself to use the buttons - and even then catch myself using the keyboard shortcuts way too often in the end, just because its easier & faster...
the zoom is neat tho, i gotta admit.
maybe a used intuos pro?

>>6272102
yeah that wheel would be great too. I would need it mostly to speed up the process since I'm extremely slow when it comes to this stuff and at least that would speed me up a little bit. What should I look out for when buying used? There are two used intuos 4's and one 5 here in my country ,but they are all far away, so I cannot physically examine them.
I played with the idea of buying an XP Pen deco 03 too, since that would be around my budget, but idk if its worth.

>>6242547
any wacom cintiq user here?
should i go for the pro version or the regular is good enough?
whats the usual lifespan for cintiq.
cause my xp-pen only last almost 2years and it already have lcd problem

>>6273467
You can still buy working ones from 15 years ago

>>6273467
1080 res is pretty bad these days.

>>6273788
what would be better then?

>be anon
>be having a retard day
>decide to buy graphics tablet
>check ebay
>see WACOM DISPLAY TABLET AUCTION
>second hand but in ORIGINAL PACKAGING
>get it for 100 bucks in the end
>unbox it
>original box, tablet HEAVY AS FUCK, pristine not even a spec of dust or fingerprint ANYWHERE, integrated stand out of metal
>be hyped
>turn it on
>one of the dimmest low contrast 1366x768 displays ever
>viewing angle IS SO BAD basically one eye sees different contrast levels than the other eye so probably not even IPS

Normally I thoroughly check before buying shit but this time I seriously had the dumb. So basically it seems to be a device for office use. Like signing shit, drawing shit in presentations etc.
The device seems to be built like a fucking tank which makes things even sadder. I wish the display wasn't so fucking crap and my regret kinda made me letting it sit in the drawer so far.

I just bought a kamvas 22

I plugged in my tablet and it totally fucked up my keyboard and I needed to reinstall the drivers to get it back to normal, has this happened to anyone else?

>>6276195
didn't happen with any wacom tablet i've had so far, no...

>>6276199
I'm not using anything expensive just a small 7inch thing. No idea what's going on or why it happened.

>>6273519
yeah man. that sounds like a great idea. i'm sure that's a future proof move

Are the driver issues really a thing to be concerned about? Got my first ever wacom tablet but haven't set it up yet

>>6277467
Not on wacom

Jesus fuck, what's up with the wacom autist in the thread?

Anyways, do you guys have any vesa arm recommendations?

>>6280349
Hello Chang.

I want to get my first display tablet, but is it even worth to get a 12inch one? It seems like the area to work on is just too small, as I'm better off with a regular tablet where I look at the monitor.

>>6242854
>>6243715
sir this was AI generated

>>6246206
not every single company in China exploits their workers to death, some give them humane working conditions or else their country would collapse, this is the reason why Wacom has to charge more for their products while huion and xp pen can afford to sell cheap broken crap

>>6282044
Hey John. Answer the question.

Anyone knows any budget 2-in-1 convertibles that aren't completely terrible? Had a ThinkPad X230 Tablet in the past, but the screen was horrible, and the LCD cable broke after some time, so I decided it's not worth fixing anymore. I'm not looking for something professional, just something that can do note-taking and eventual scribbling on the side.

>>6283680
why not just get an ipad with a keyboard?

>>6242547
does anyone actually use the samsung galaxy tab? can anyone confirm if it's good or not?

ipad pro 12.9 with the screen protector or else just get a tab s8+

What's the safe way to clean a Cintiq 16?

>>6284069
which galaxy tab?

someone reviewed the S6 Lite right in this thread:
>>6251842
>>6251853

>>6284069
i had a tab s7+ and it was good. Not ipad good but not really that far off especially for the price when you compare them. Procreate is brilliant though especially since it's a one time buy. That's the main reason why I ultimately got rid of the tab and picked up a used 4th gen ipad pro. I hate apple with a passion but they make a damn good drawing tablet.

>>6242547
any huion kamvas 22 users here?
how long have youve been using it?
any issue youve encounter?

>>6285578
it's shit

>>6285578
Get a 22 plus, not a normal 22. Had mine for a year. No problems. Great experience.

>>6286928
That's what's mom has mix with my cum

Is buying used cintiq 16 for 300 eur a good idea?

>>6288291
yea

>>6289388
Is there anything to watch out for, when Im going to test it at the seller's house?

>>6287160
yeah do this, they cost roughly the same and the color gamut is better. I really like my 22 plus, the only thing it's fucked up with so far is the drivers magically stopped recognizing it one day and I had to reinstall them, other than that it's been going strong for like 18 months now with no issues.

For buttons, just grab an old xbox/playstation controller that you undoubtedly have lying around and bind all of your shortcuts to it through steam or some other program. You can put analogue inputs on the thumbsticks, so what I did was set undo/redo to left and right and then the brush size to up and down on the left stick. You can do all sorts of fancy stuff with chords too, so you can get dozens of binds on only the left/right side of the controller that you can comfortably use one handed.

oh fuck i have a huion. i doesnt seem that bad to me, but i literally have nothing to compare it too.

>>6290578
OH NO! NOT A HUION!!! Anon quick just throw it in the trash, op said it was bad.

>>6290642
"OP" is a script that has been running on a low spec Linux server for the past 3 years, reposting the same shit non stop. Its logic is simple. Does thread exist? Yes? Do nothing. No? Create thread -> contact subordinate script -> be the first to post XP-Pen_is_trash.webm

>>6253072
I think you can do better than that price. Looks like a 'Pro' model from the Intuos 5 era. You're right about a decade old, should be close to that. The Intuos 5 had that annoying rubber over its buttons, made them feel relatively shitty. Much more crappy than all of its predecessors in any case. Looks like the Pro got rid of that issue. Could be a 2013 release.
You can go for it if it is in good condition. A large tablet will feel nice and they tend to be very expensive. I remember paying $350 for my new Intuos 5 M back in the day. A great tablet no doubt but nowadays I've grown fond of competitor brands. I value bang for buck and once you start drawing on a display you can't go back. Or at least I couldn't. So much more fun.

>>6275877
and? Did you unbox it?

>>6290578
ignore the schizo, the new huions are awesome for the price. The issue was with the old ones that had the battery powered pens, those ones sucked

Not sure where else to go to ask about this, so I'll try here.
I got a Lenovo Legion Y700 tablet recently and I noticed that minúte movements don't register very well, so I was wondering if there's a way to either fix this or at least circumvent it with some sort of stylus.
Would a Bluetooth stylus even be able to fix this issue, is that too stupid of a question?

If a bt stylus would be a good solution, what would you recommend? Idk if there's compatibility issues, but I've been looking into Lenovo's styluses, but I can't even tell the difference between the Precision pen and the Active pen series.
Any tips or input greatly appreciated.

>>6242547
>Lenovo
>Bad drawing performance because they're not designed with art in mind.
Didn't really know that before, and I do like everything else about the device. I'm just wondering if there's a way to alleviate some of the issues in this one area, and I'm kinda retarded.

>>6262457
>>6262457
>>6262457

>>6242687
>Get a life
I hope he doesn't

>>6242687
this tbqh.
i've never seen anyone so consistently shitpost about the same thing for so long.
the only reasonable explanations are he's a shill or just terminally autistic.

>>6292298
>Lenovo Legion Y700 tablet
your only option is to return it and buy something that isn't shit.