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It begins

>> No.6260829

Tempting, but I'm not sure this is enough to make me go back to that wretched site.

>> No.6260835

What's a good furry website that will accept AI art?

>> No.6260838
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drop dead

>> No.6260839
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>twitter screenshot thread
btw this how discord trannies try to kill a board; spamming the board with twitter screenshots is the last stage of the place while they also play both sides.

>> No.6260840

>>6260824
So how are they actually going to enforce this? There are SO many submissions on that site, plus that's assuming they can distinguish what's AI-generated and what isn't.

>> No.6260848

>>6260840
Just like how tracing is discovered, some faggot eventually will look at your gallery and call you out to the admins.

>> No.6260854
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>>6260824
based fags


>2.8 Content Lacking Artistic Merit
>Content lacking artistic merit is not permitted on FA, and includes such items as:
>-- Submissions created through the use of artificial intelligence (AI) or similar image generators.
>-- Photography focusing on body parts without creative content.
>-- Placeholder content with empty documents or blank submissions.
>-- Text-only imagery.
>-- Content modified to be generally unviewable through use of filters, blurring, or censorship.
>
>Content created by artificial intelligence is not allowed on Fur Affinity.
>
>AI and machine learning applications (DALL-E, Craiyon) sample other artists' work to create content. That content generated can reference hundreds, even thousands of pieces of work from other artists to create derivative images.
>
>Our goal is to support artists and their content. We don’t believe it’s in our community’s best interests to allow AI generated content on the site.

>> No.6260866

>>6260840
A rule can still be meaningful even if it can’t be 100% perfectly enforced.
If some AI or AI-assisted images get through unnoticed (and they will) then it’s not the end of the world. But if there’s something obviously suspicious, like a bot account uploading a picture every 10 minutes, or someone suddenly uploads something way beyond their established skill level, that can be reported on a case by case basis.

>> No.6260871

>>6260824
ok.

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>>6260824
The pendulum swing has begun. Get ready for pajeet tears
>>6260839
Tears

>> No.6260880

>>6260824
wtf is FA?

>> No.6260895
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>>6260824
Based I'll just accuse random people of using AI art now to start drama.

>> No.6260896

>>6260880
Nothing of importance.

>> No.6260899

>>6260824
It would be the (((furries))) who would do this first! Hahaha. Money grubbing fucks.
>oh no the computer can generate and ugly dragon OC exactly as good as the one I sold for $5000! I must stop this!

>> No.6260905 [DELETED] 

>>6260824
AI THREADS CURRENTLY ALIVE ON /ic/: 22

TWENTY

FUCKING

TWO

22

XXII

二十二

KILL YOURSELF FOR MAKING ANOTHER ONE!
KILL YOURSELF IF YOU BUMP THESE THREADS!
KILL YOURSELF IF YOU ARE A USELESS JANNY WHO ALLOWS THINGS TO GET TO THIS POINT!

KILL

YOUR

SELF

>>6260826
>>6260824
>>6260752
>>6260397
>>6260393
>>6260388
>>6259388
>>6259686
>>6259244
>>6258966
>>6258310
>>6257144
>>6256450
>>6255723
>>6255852
>>6254804
>>6252892
>>6252291
>>6247885
>>6245562
>>6245315
>>6235330

>> No.6260907

>>6260899
It really doesn't matter. In a couple years time no one is going to be able to tell what is AI generated and what isn't.

>> No.6260911

>>6260907
>two more weeks

>> No.6260915

>>6260905

>> Most important thing to happen in the art world for a long time happens.

>> People are talking about.

>> Anger.

>> No.6260916

>>6260911
Nah humanlike AI art is still years away but the cat is out of the bag. People who think they can stop or ban this are on some heavy copium.

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>>6260824
SIR YOU CANT DO THAT
THE SIGNATURES ARE NOT REAL
SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE COPYRIGHT

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>>6260905

>> No.6260928

>>6260915
>thinks stitching pictures together is revolutionary
Settle down currybro!

>> No.6260930

>>6260928
Ignorance is bliss I guess.

>> No.6260935

>>6260838
dilate, lilith

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>>6260916
>THE GENIE IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE
>THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG
>YOU CANT STOP LE HECKIN SCIENCE
>LONG LIVE DR. FAUCCI AND EMAD

>> No.6260947

>>6260936
I mean whatever helps you sleep at night. Better start looking for a real job though.

>> No.6260948

>>6260936
kek

>> No.6260951

>>6260936
Schitzo detected

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>>6260854
>>Content lacking artistic merit is not permitted on FA
BAHAHAHAHAHA, That's a good one! I found this shit on the front page.

>> No.6260974

>>6260824
I don't draw anything FA related, but this does make it seem like it's a good idea to standardize signatures at one usual position on the image. Makes AI shitters all the more obvious thieves.

>> No.6260976

>>6260970
Say what you will, but I love this kind of art. So many fascinating specimens on that website.

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>>6260936
This is one cringe crossboarder he can't help but keep saying the same buzzword lmao

>> No.6260990

>>6260824
this won't stop a single fucking thing hahahaha
what, at most you'll need a couple months of experience in photoshop to make the AI art look authentic? hahaha
And its not like any AI artwork holds any prominence on the site either.

>> No.6260995

>>6260935
your replies are so mediocre, do you generate them too?

>> No.6261002

>>6260979
schizo pajeets exposed lol

>> No.6261006

>>6260990
>>6260970
>BHAHAHAHAHA
>hahahahahaha
It's afraid...

>> No.6261010

I think in the far future AI could indeed generate art, the same way we can train it to "walk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn4nRCC9TwQ

AI can learn to move virtual legs on a simulated gravity environment to make a character walk, in decades, we could train to move a virtual pen to make scribbles that look coordinated based on the references we show to it, in the next steps, it could learn to color, to render, doing all the brushwork a human makes in a simulated environment, in some decades I can see that happening, this would be really, AI generated art.

What we have today is not AI art, is automated collages based on a GPU accelerated parameter based supercomressed image algorythm ,I am not impressed by this shit, it's not creating anything, just stiching shit together from it's database.

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>>6261006
>i'm afraid
are you sure anoooon??? because last I checked I'm not the one "banning" AI artwork from my platform kek

>> No.6261020

>>6260838
Seething ESL

>> No.6261028

>>6260970
If you don't see the artistic merit in this, you're never going to make it

>> No.6261048

Now is the time to start a witch hunt and start accusing popular artists of using AI
Take screenshots and zoom in on random brush strokes and use it as 'proof' of it being AI
>whoa look right here, this is definitely something AI did, only AI makes artifacts like that!!!

>> No.6261053

>>6261020
You will never be an artist, /g/tard

>> No.6261073

>>6261048
Why are you suggesting us to do that fellow artist? Did you feel personally attacked by the statement to pursue a blowback against the legitimate artists?

>> No.6261075

>>6261073
He's not an artist. He's a tourist from /g/ thinking he's being epic.

>> No.6261078

>>6260899
kek, seething jew calling others jew. It's hilarious that the furries did this first, but their community revolves highly around art. based furfags have more standards than fucking ArtStation and Deviant art, but the latter was a low bar anyway

>> No.6261083

>>6261078
They're going to eat each other alive in a couple of years once AI advances enough.

>> No.6261086

One way to enforce something like this would be the requirement to post progress videos. It will be a while before AI's are on a level they could convincingly fake that, given that the way AI's generate imagery is completely different from how human artists work.
It wouldn't be entirely unprecedented either. Oekaki sites always had stroke history built into their drawing software. It was there to weed out shitters who would use a script to upload images through their paint tool.

>> No.6261087

>>6261011
>what are you gonna do ban it
>what are you gonna do sue us
im cozy nigger but imagine getting shit on by a bunch of furries. What a way to go LMFAO

>> No.6261090

>>6260990
>what, at most you'll need a couple months of experience in photoshop to make the AI art look authentic
lmao the tranime schizo unironically believes this

>> No.6261093

>>6261083
>They're going to eat each other alive in a couple of years once AI advances enough.
based Elon Musk was right back in hecking 2015, in a couple of years AI replaced drivers

>> No.6261107

>>6261078
>it’s about standards not money and vanity pageviews
yes because furries are infamous for their integrity and principles lmao

>> No.6261108

>>6260911
Word filter for two more weeks when?

>> No.6261109

>>6260970
average american

>> No.6261110

>>6261107
if that were the case, they would've approved of AI you low brained retard

>> No.6261111

>>6260824
WAIT
FURFAGS ARE BASED????

>> No.6261112

>>6261093
>copepost
The robot is going to automate you in a couple years whether you like it or not. You can cry and wail but technological progress is eternal and AI is here to stay, either learn to code and abandon your children scribblings or you're left behind to seethe with the bottom feeders of society.

>> No.6261122

>>6261112
>The robot is going to automate you in a couple years whether you like it or not
not an argument from what I said. robot was supposed to automate me for over 8 years btw, I don't make money off of art. same conversation with the same deluded tech addled basedfaced bugmen like you who reads ars technica every day.
>You can cry and wail but technological progress is eternal and AI is here to stay
humanity will remain stuck on this planet and kill itself long before the sun swallows itself. redundant point
>either learn to code and abandon your children scribblings or you're left behind to seethe with the bottom feeders of society.
did that for 3 years to learn it. I'd rather kill myself than become a tech bugman. or rather, I would rather die killing tech bugmen like you

>> No.6261128

>>6260916
Ray kurzweil said we would have agi in 2020. What qualifies you to make predictions?

>> No.6261133

>>6261112
>either learn to code and abandon your children scribblings
tech faggots are so confused. they're children scribblings, yet they shove them into their soulless machines. what did they mean by this. if they're "children scribblings" how come they need them?

>> No.6261308

>>6261073
>>6261075
I am an artist, I just hate furries

>> No.6261315

>>6261112
It's so funny when these retards tell you to learn to code when their dumb code monkey jobs will be taken away. See >>6261289.
Not just me, but also you'll be working in the mines and it'll be because of your arrogance.

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>>6261090
Because its true! You are crazy if you think fixing these images is anything close to complex.
why do you continue to lie to yourself? Just draw or whatever instead of bitching so pointlessly
>>6261087
>btfo
oh no I can't make AI images anymore because some furfag site banned it! abloo abloo!!!
>sue
yep! just 2 more weeks until it all comes crumbling down in court! lol

>> No.6261472

>>6261461
Bnuy~

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The future is interactive photobashers with booru filetags.

>> No.6261480

>>6261461
It’s obvious that the person who edited that has drawing experience, and if you can’t see that, then you’ve never drawn in your life.

>> No.6261482

>>6261461
>Because its true
faken lol'd, don't come back when you come to the point of people saying you are mediocre and you actually tired of doing same shit every day, and oh, every AI thing has it's own style by the way, it can be highlighted

>> No.6261487

>>6261480
>It’s obvious that the person who edited that has drawing experience,
yes you silly fucking negroid that's completely supporting my point.
all you need is a couple months worth of hours in an art program and you can fix simple shit like this.
>>6261482
>people say its mediorce
ok nigga, and? Has literally nothing to do with my point. Mediocre is not a declaration of an image being artificially generated through a machine.
>every AI thing has it's own style by the way
then you can hide it with an image editing software. Who gives a fuck. If that requires more experience in said editing software to do depending on the image then so be it.

>> No.6261498

>>6261461
Like Abubu, the Jap who drew this is such a hack that the left image is somehow better

>> No.6261501
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What is FA and how are they doing to distinguish ai artwork form traditional digital art? Literally impossible to tell the difference when you generate artwork and photobash on the top of it.

>> No.6261504

>>6261498
not my problem, and removal of the random artifacts is an objective rendering improvement.

>> No.6261511

>>6261501
Can you generate a progress video that shows every brush stroke?

>> No.6261512

>>6261511
Not yet. I am giving skynet 2 more months.

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>>6261501
it's easy, generations have their distinctive style, but you are a guy from the meme, you won't get it

>> No.6261517

>>6261512
you still didn't finish feeding your toy a good art? Oh, i forgot you don't have a taste for a good art

>> No.6261524

>>6261514
>>6261517
You are wrong. I've been making art since 9 11. Ai is just another tool for me. Just like photoshop back when I was young lad.

>> No.6261527

>>6261524
cope harder seethe more

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I just saw furries making ai generated anthros and people wanting to buy them as adoptables
Tick tock drawniggers tick tock its almost midnight~

>> No.6261538

>>6261461
>eyes and hair
Even after someone wasted his time to fix this there is nothing interesting about the "remastered" image either. When everything from perspective to style is left to the machine — only being able to go as far blandly defining them in a prompt — it just ends as something equally generic as stock art. Would anyone like this art even if it wasn't done by AI? There's not even a distinguishing style here.

In fact, it is so bland that it relies on the fact that it is an experimental use of AI, if it didn't wasn't you would never have saved this in your computer.

>> No.6261543

>>6261538
>ven after someone wasted his time to fix this there is nothing interesting about the "remastered" image either
your subjective "interest" has nothing to do with it. The point of my comment was if it looked authentic, and if it was possible to fix it. If you think its so bland then that's entirely on you. I don't care and the editor doesn't care either, and has even less to do with my initial point about it in the first place.

>> No.6261556

>>6260824
whatt is wrong with these retards, it makes its own random signatures because it was trained on images that contain them.

These retards literally think Ai art is just 2 existing photos merged together

>> No.6261562

>>6261543
That doesn't look authentic either. I mentioned the style because the AI artifacts are still plastered all over her clothes and environment. It would require someone to do a full tracing if he wanted to erase the remaining blurry lines, not only eye and hair.

>> No.6261570

>people will now need to also post videos of them making the art as proof its not ai made
Its a dystopia for artfags i love it

>> No.6261573

>>6261562
>the AI artifacts are still plastered all over her clothes and environment
then that's on the editor, and can easily be fixed.
>it would require someone to do a full tracing
ok then more experience with an editor program it would look more authentic. In your opinion all it takes is some more work to make it reach that goal. Then so be it.

>> No.6261575

>>6261570
we will just ask to draw some dicks or hentai, ai won't be able to do it because devs are full troonies

>> No.6261577

>>6261573
>then that's on the editor, and can easily be fixed.
you can't fix being dumb at every possible aspect of painting, ai is easy to spot as hell

>> No.6261579

Uhhmmm guys.

If you go to pixiv, search for stablediffusion, and sort to R-18.

You will see why sites are gonna ban AI art, they are making realistic cheese pizza.

>> No.6261581

>>6261577
>you can't fix being dumb at every possible aspect of painting
not without more experience you can't. I don't see what you're even trying to argue anymore if you've already acknowledged that it can be possible to fix the AIs shortcomings to make it a better endproduct.

>> No.6261582

>>6261573
>then that's on the editor, and can easily be fixed
Can it? Why wasn't it fixed then? Show me it then or I'm calling this a bluff.

>> No.6261585

>>6261581
>to make it a better endproduct
you mean possible to make another joke aifaggotory to self-humiliate? yes, i agree on that, I truly confirm I said this

>> No.6261587

>>6261579
>Its true
Holy shit i thought it was a joke!
Fuck you im now on a watch list

>> No.6261588

>>6261582
>Can it? Why wasn't it fixed then?
go ask them, they're in the prompt sharing thread. I think they just wanted to fix the glaring hair and face issues
>>6261585
deranged vitriol does not an argument make.

>> No.6261590

>>6260840
It is not just the enforcement that matters the principle of just having the rule also does.

>> No.6261593

>>6261587
>Fuck you im now on a watch list

Are you? I don't think there is anything in the law written yet about illegal content made with AI. Who is really the artist? The person who typed the prompt or the AI?
If the prompt you write is completely unrelated and it accidentally generates cp, should you be charged? Why does the AI have images of naked children on it's learning in the first place?

Shit is gonna get weird in the future.

>> No.6261594

>>6260839
you are acting as if the makimaposter or the fatposter are better.

>> No.6261596

>>6261575
SD can do it just fine if you install it locally.
BTW something that people don't talk about, it doubles as a quite competent deepnude program as well. As in, you can feed it a photo of anyone, the person doesn't need to be in the dataset, mask the relevant parts and tell it to render a nude. I'd say it's better than any deepnude AI I've seen before actually. It works quite decently even if all you have is a face photo.

>> No.6261599

>>6261582
anon please don't try and argue that you can't edit out X in something as powerful as Photoshop

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>>6261111
No they are just protective of their community, thing is even if said community is a refuge for real life abusers, rapists, pedos or worse they will still protect them too. That is the bad thing.

>> No.6261608

>>6261605
Funny thing is their art style has exactly 24 hs to live, furry parameters for the ai are dropping tomorrow supposedly (beta tho)

>> No.6261611

>>6261599
Why wasn't it edited then if you keep insisting it's so easy to make the picture not look like a cheap photobash? Is it because it takes too much effort to do something as easy as that?

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>>6261501
>Literally impossible to tell the difference when you generate artwork and photobash on the top of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

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>>6260824
>furfags have more integrity than the posters on /ic/

>> No.6261660

>>6261461
>yep! just 2 more weeks
???? you niggers are always the one saying just a few more years! >>6261112

youre out of steam fag/g/ot

>> No.6261663

>>6261660
and didn't it take like at most 2 years for deepfakes to be trained enough to be flawless?

>> No.6261668

Furries more based than the average /IC/ poster

>> No.6261702

>>6261663
This star citizen roadmap is why you will keep waiting in line with the ideaguys and everyone else for have a chance to generate good art. Maybe the internet will be flooded by bots by then so you will only have GPT to show your AI art

>> No.6261708

>>6261663
There are no flawless deepfakes. Tech still isn't there.

>> No.6261710

>>6260824
based furfags
>>6260835
die

>> No.6261714

>>6261501
it's a good thing that photobashing isn't at issue here then

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>>6260835
Inkbunny currently doesn't have any rules against it.

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>> No.6261726

>>6261702
?
>>6261708
idk anon I've seen some impeccable ones

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>>6260824
>fixes your board

>> No.6261731

>>6261723
>>6261721
>>6261719
My mind saw Piccolo squatting, what sorcery is this? Holyshit these are amazing kek

>> No.6261735

>>6261731
It's img2img with different prompts, using piccolo dick as the starter image.

>> No.6261737

>>6261735
It's amusing as fuck, a shitpost hidden and occult with the finesse of fine art this is quality content.

>> No.6261738

>>6260907
Signatures and proof by time-lapse recordings

>> No.6261807

>>6261737
There were also a few that used goatse as the base image, but mods deleted those.

>> No.6261816

>>6260838
techies are seething kek

>> No.6262437

>>6260970
more soul than any AI "art"

>> No.6262479

>>6261533
>implying they aren't glowniggers pushing "modern art" like they did during cold war.

>> No.6262583

>>6261533
nanachi is cute!

>> No.6262584

>>6260824
>/ic/ celebrating furfags
absolute state of irrelevant faggots

>> No.6262604

>>6260839
>complaining about twatter
its nothing, there was always one or two threads about something and they died, when people talked about the topic enough

the real problem was the AI threads, mainly because soo many anons were seething about the spam instead of just ignoring
then the retards spammed even more "funny" threads, possibly because spammers are attention whores and dont realize everyone hates them, not adores them

>> No.6262704

>>6260824
this furfag covered up for a legit dogfucker so who really gives a shit

>> No.6262735

>>6260936
this is what nocoiners looked like 10 years ago
and two years ago they bought bitcoins for 50k a coin

>> No.6262740

>>6261086
trad and oekaki is the future

>> No.6262741

>>6262740
Think you're missing the point of the post, anon.

>> No.6262755

>>6261579
a week ago i said this was gonna happen and ai shitters didnt care
all thats needed is someone or a group to call attention to this by contacting journos

>> No.6262757

>>6261702
>with the ideaguys and everyone else for have a chance to generate good art
ngl when this goes a bit beyond its current capabilities including music and basic 3D asset generation we will see a big boom in production especially indie games
as a hobby gamedev myself it makes me excited but ofc the implication outside of production are still scary like the literal CP being done right now you can see on pixiv

>> No.6262762
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6262762

>mfw fur fucking affinity is the only worthwhile art community left

>> No.6262774

>>6260824
>a furry website is the savior of art
So it has been foretold. i can't say i am surprised but lmao

>> No.6262958

>>6260907
In a couple of years time nobody but CEOs hired through nepotism and dancing monkeys in retail will have a job.

>> No.6262965
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6262965

>Relentlessly shit on Furries for decades
>Yiff in hell!
>Furries suggest to ban AI because of their OC donut steel 'tism
>le hecking based!
kys yourselves.

>> No.6262972

>>6261112
>a couple years
80 is "a couple", and a fair estimate based on how actually stagnant tech has been since 2007.

>> No.6262978

>>6261461
You could draw that faster than the stupid AI goes through a billion iterations of shit like >>6261478 before it gets something worth editing.

I mean, not (you) obviously, but a competent artist. This is literally photobashing but inefficient.

>> No.6262988

>>6261593
Getting sent cheese pizza gets you FBId, in fact it's a common alphabet soup tactic to ruin low profile politically uncomfortable people before they become a real issue.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.

>> No.6263317
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6263317

>>6262965
>you guys got shit on by furries?
>"n-no! k-kys!"

>> No.6263322

>>6262965
Furries arent my thing but I've always respected that they actually DRAW

>> No.6263368

>>6260923
flip is that you? I feel like this is a post you would do haha

>> No.6263371

>>6261053
not even a /g/tard, this is just some faggot wanting a rich quick scheme

>> No.6264357

>>6260854
>AI and machine learning applications (DALL-E, Craiyon) sample other artists' work to create content. That content generated can reference hundreds, even thousands of pieces of work from other artists to create derivative images.
How is that different from artists looking at other people's art? Every picture you saw in life stays with you and can be considered something you sampled.

>> No.6264362

>>6264357
if you don't see the difference that means you are not an artist and you need to go back.

>> No.6264365

>>6264362
You are just deluding yourself.

>> No.6264366

>>6264365
pyw

>> No.6264367

>>6264357
Because humans can create new things with it, but ai cant, it just mixes up existing images. US copyright protects human authorship

>> No.6264374

>>6264367
How can you tell the difference?

>> No.6264383

>>6264357
Artists lives inform their work, not just the artists they are inspired by.

>> No.6264528
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6264528

>>6264357
/v//fag/ here. Allow me to explain.
I'm working on a game set in an underground cyberpunk dystopia where the protagonist is an athro mouse who is an inquisitor for the Catolic Church and wears a power suit. Pic related was one of the attempts I had making conceptual art for it. Because of game mechanics and game lore, I need the armor to have a 3x4 grid of gems on its left wrist and a blaster on the right palm (like Iron Man), it must be colored red and the stylized logo at the chest of the Church on its chest.

While it's true that I have seen that pose before and I'm sure I'm ripping a metric fuckton of movie posters and I have a very generic idea of mech armor, that was still too much for the AI. Bear in mind I spent thirty minutes on this one.

>> No.6264530
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6264530

>>6264528
>>6264357
After about an hour messing with the AI, this was the closest it got and it doesn't even get the intended proportion right. Let alone all the details.

>> No.6264534
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6264534

>>6264530
>>6264357
God, I WISH it was smart enough to do something to get the mood and the feeling of the game. If it at least managed to get that right, then I could just add the details on top of it.

But when my desired cover image is a Catolic Inquisitor fighting a "werewolf" anthro mouse, how can I even hope the AI will get that? I WISH the AI was capable of creation, but the only thing it can don is iterate on the blandest shit there is. I have yet to see a single good thing on the AI that is ACTUALLY new and not just a lazy amalgamation of things I've seen before. It's peak design by committee and utterly soulless.

>> No.6264544
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6264544

>>6264357
Just look at this. How would an AI get the joke that is one my mind?
>Jarvis, draw a werewolf with a big blue envelope hung by chains around his chest to represent a chainMAIL
Why, yes, I do have plenty of stored references on chains, letters and werewolves. I will tell you that I outright traced another drawing for the basic form and then packed in more muscle where appropriate. Now go ahead and name where I got somewhere even remotely as close as this gag. You can't, because it requires very different skillsets: wordplay and visual gags.

I'm not even mad at the AI, just disappointed it can't produce anything but bland art, like >>6264367 said.

>> No.6264570

>>6264544
This approach is not good because the search engine will give you that result if you break the joke down to a explanation eg "anthro werewolf with a blue mail card covering his chest"

>> No.6264700
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6264700

>>6264570
I may have miscommunicated. I meant the AI can't create new things, specially not humor. With AI, I wouldn't even try to come up with a joke because I made that joke to avoid rendering mail. If I were trying to do with AI, there wouldn't even be a need for creativity.
>Jarvis, draw werewolf in chainmail!
>DONE!
This kind of limitation breeds creativity. I watch competity Starcraft 2 and when they used deep mind to play against pros, it first curb-stomped them because they were trying to fight it head-on, but it started dying the moment players started using unorthodox tactics. AI can't into creativity.

That being said, any non-generic stuff will be hell for it to draw. Pic related:
>Jarvis, draw a werewolf with a blue mail flinging from the neck loosely as a necklace and wearing a leathery skull helmet resembling a demon's skull while said werewolf judo throws a two-headed 50% bigger werewolf with two goat-like horns coming out of each head. The bigger werewolf must look confused and panicked and the smaller one must look smaller. The smaller werewolf must be covered in flames that was coming out from the bigger one's mouth previously. The bigger werewolf must be covered in blood as it came out of a sacrificial pit. Draw from a low angle to emphasize their bigger size compared to human beings and to make the smaller werewolf look heroic.

I'm not even getting to the background or artstyle, just the main theme of the drawing. Where would it get references for wrestling a giant by its horns? I don't think there are many horned giants availiable out there in general, nor many giants being wrestled. Let alone both combined. And from that specific angle? Phew! GG, Dall-E.

If I believed it could do what I want, and that I could get the results faster by running the AI than drawing it myself, I absolutely would.

>> No.6264721

>>6260835
>What's a good furry website
You're asking for the impossible mate.

>> No.6264729

>>6261461
>Because its true! You are crazy if you think fixing these images is anything close to complex.
But why do I only see artists doing it then? If it's so easy, why aren't the AI bro's doing it to... unless... Oh no! They're too lazy to learn how to do so, just like how they were to lazy to learn how to draw.

>> No.6264732

>>6264729
Fiverr's photo retouchers are cheap as fuck, this is what you're competing with now instead of the $30 commission coming from third world it's $2 retouching for each image if not lower because of how accessible it is

>> No.6264739

>>6264357
>using a direct 1:1 copy is the same as referencing art
you guys cant be this dumb

>> No.6264754

>>6264732
>this is what you're competing with now
We were always competing against that, do you think third worlders only just came into existence?
The issue is that they're rushing to make decent money, and their work is often shit. Corporate Cheapos such as yourself still use them though rather than spending money on your fellow countrymen.

So in this example, nothing has changed for the artist but the work method.

>> No.6265565

>>6261556
>It contains peoples signatures because it's copying their art. Why do these people have a issue with that?

Damn, Pajeets are hilarious.

>inb4 thats not how the AI works

I have a Masters in Computer Science, I know how this shit works.

>> No.6265612
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>>6260838
/thread

>> No.6265696
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6265696

newgrounds too apparently

>> No.6265700

>>6265696
I'm glad. Fuck robots. Yes I'm racist but exclusively to clanks and beep boops.

>> No.6265708

>>6265696
Imagine the glorious seethe if every single art website does this.

>> No.6265717

>>6265708
>D-d-doesn't stop me, I'll keep doing it! Noone will care, and everyone will continue to Commission artists so they can post their characters online, but Microsoft won't hire y-you!

>> No.6265728

>>6265696
Seems like a countermeasure to the AI generated content flood people have been theorzing as of late. Though that might have to go a few steps further like showing proofs when ai gets advanced enough to do sidegraded shit. I don't think the problem can be tackled in such a visual way for fictions or music though which are going through the same hole

>> No.6265750

>>6260824
>>6265696
I wonder if art communities are now banning machine/bot generated picture, why isn't /ic/ doing this too?

>> No.6265757

>>6265612
stealing it for trolling aifags, have you seen a not whiplash sounds? https://youtu.be/MLI--0AyfQM

>> No.6265758

>>6265750
4chan jannirators get endorphin kicks from witnessing their userbase get 'trolled' (read: seethe and suffer).

>> No.6265772
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6265772

>make my own competitor website and outcompete the sites that ban AI art
>coomers will eventually come around to AI art as algorithms improve because all they want is to coom
>we will finally be freed from the scourge of furaffinity
god bless capitalism

>> No.6265775

>>6265772
Nightcafestudio already exists, although no one wants to browse through the 5 million pieces of trash there.

>> No.6265786
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6265786

>>6265772
>make my own competitor website and outcompete the sites that ban AI art
>coomers will eventually come around to AI art as algorithms improve because all they want is to coom

Then do it, lol. Oh wait, you can't, you're just writing fanfiction... sad...

>> No.6265790

>>6265786
I have a full time job and I make enough money anon. If I had the time, I would.
Someone will do it though, and they’ll rule the art world. This is the “photoshop isnt REAL art” argument all over again.

I doubt you brain damaged zoomers even know about that, though. So young, so spiteful, and so filled with senseless hubris.

>> No.6265791

>>6265772
>He thinks furaffinity is just for porn

Furaffinity is a huge community of Artists, Writers, Animators, Youtubers, and many other furry-related people. Too kill Furaffinity you would have to provide a far better service and manage to make all of the Artists, Animators, Writers, Etc come over to your site. Because us Furries love and support eachother, we love interacting with eachother and following our favorite creators. I know love and respect is something AI-fags have never experienced in their lives, but you should realize that not everyone is as superficial as you are. Most of us don't even make Art for others for money, we just enjoy making people happy.

>> No.6265794

>>6265790
Oh, so you can't? But I thought you said you were going to... well... I'm disappointed now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.6265798
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6265798

>>6265772
Good luck trying to explain the FBI you aren't the owner of a website that lets CP art behind the curtains because that shit its happening in pixiv now. But by all means do it so that you get rape in prison for being a trannoid toddler groomer.

>> No.6265801
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6265801

>>6265790
>trannoid weeb LARPING again
So easy to tell honestly lmao

>> No.6265821

>>6265565
noooo! it's exactly how people learn because people are also just big piles of linear algebra who extract images out of a predefined latent space! There's nothing special about human creativity! Just Prooooooompt it all away or I'll scream!

>> No.6265833

>>6260824
If this AI shit was a secret project made by the chinese govenrmment to cripple japan's manga industry or some shit i would be fine with it, but the fact that all this unsurmountable chaos was caused by a hedgefund pajeet who wanted to make NFT scams tells how exploitable our data is to our prejudice

>> No.6265854

>>6265798
Where's a good place to read that's covering this? I want to read about pixiv getting btfo

>> No.6265879

>>6265790
Lol embarrassing why’d you even reply lmao

>> No.6265886

>>6265790
>I have a full time job
everyone step back he has a job lmao

>> No.6266127
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6266127

>>6260824
What's DeviantArt's and Artstation's stance on this?

>> No.6266134

>>6265728
There may come a point in the future where process videos are more highly valued as a way of proving you didn’t use AI, but art sites don’t need to go as far as requiring videos or other proof. It’s fine to just say “no AI” and only ban people who are very flagrant about it (e.g. uploading 20 new hyper-detailed paintings a day).

>> No.6266151
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6266151

>>6265696
Any Anti-AI rule is going to be near impossible to enforce unless you run it through basically a reverse AI CLIP prompt. Even still that isn't going to tell you if it was created by an AI just what the AI think it is.
It also doesn't prevent any of the other AI fuckery like up scaling or image input/masking. Also any clever competent non-/ic/ non-artist can take generated images and correct them in post processing with Photoshop or other tools.
I'm sorry to say and I don't mean this to troll or doom post but everyone but trad fine artists are unequivocally fucked if they are planning to make stable careers. We haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg with this tech.

I for one will take my fav artists Pierre-Auguste Renoir and continue to PROOOMPPTTT free artwork.

>>6266127
Was that an edited Img2img ? generation regardless that's funny who's the source

>> No.6266153

>>6265854
I don't know if that's what the other anon is referring to, but I'm a loli artist posting on pixiv and lately I get a lot of spam comments who advertise links to "real kids"
Of course I just report and delete them, but it's annoying

>> No.6266157

>>6265696
how dare they... they will regret this...

>> No.6266162

>>6266151
On the contrary, it's really easy to enforce

AI generated art will be overall pretty good. So any decent recommendation algorithm will pick them up and put them on recommendation feeds and front pages
People will naturally be curious and go to the artist's page. And those pieces will be displayed as gallery
And that's how it's going to be apparent. Too many high-quality pieces? Styles varying wildly from a piece to another? That's clear indication of AI use.

The occasional pieces will go through, but the repeat offenderd won't be hard to highlight

>> No.6266166

>>6266151
I didn't think much of Renoir until I saw his work in person and it blew my mind. his work just doesn't translate well to photo/scans.

>> No.6266176

>>6265791
>Because us Furries love and support eachother
Oh please, most of you would gleefully throw your friends under the bus if you thought it would get you more followers. The furry community is non-stop drama.

>> No.6266177

>>6265696
I think the newgrounds dudes are pretty smart, I wonder if they have a means to enforce/regulate this outside of just a mod going "hmmm, looks AI to me!" and banning the user.

>> No.6266181
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6266181

It's really interesting to me that like literally 95% (no exaggeration) of the dev team at Stability AI are neurotic jews, trannies, faggots, furries, potheads, morbidly obese, weebs, beta sois, and pajeet poos (and there's a big venn diagram of all of those aspects). Really has made me realize that this technology truly embodies the fundamental mental illness and delusional incompetence of the people who are creating and promoting it, and they're cultlike in their dedication in pushing this shit to destabilize and destroy real human talent and ability. The absolute truth is that company despises real people and real art, they're deeply jealous and hateful of people who are better than them, especially Emad.

What are the chances that a company could be THAT fucked up? Follow the money...it's on purpose. Pic related.

>> No.6266192
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>>6266181
they want to humiliate real artists by stealing their art and regurgitating a pale mockery of it back at them, all the while telling everyone this is inevitable and the genie is out of the bottle and they are obsolete. they fetishize humiliating others, because they themselves are pitable creatures who can only mock, they can't create what they mock. they're going to do it to everything they can too, not just art, they'll do it to music, spoken word, literature, anything.

>> No.6266200
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6266200

>>6266166
>his work just doesn't translate well to photo/scans.
Totally agree, I mean he ever had the foresight to know smartphones would be a thing a 150 years later.

>>6266162
If anything keeping a consistent style will be easier than ever with AI. Also again it doesn't deal with the "soft use" of AI such as img2img and masking features.

>>6266181
>>6266192
Their team seems really well adjusted and terribly afraid of offending anyone even in the slightest unlike the kikes at google with imagen and the "open AI" with their cucked to fuck Dalle-2 that sucks in comparison to Stability because they are so afraid of dem "evil racsits and potential CP".

>>6266177
This is going to create so much lulzy drama, we already have people here spouting, "Nice work, whats the Prompt?".

>> No.6266209

>>6266200
>Their team seems really well adjusted
lol

>terribly afraid of offending anyone even in the slightest

Oh yeah, like living artists who's work they stole and productized without their input or permission, with no ability to opt-out?

How about all of the people that have a problem with the fact that you can make realistic AI generated child porn with SD and they didn't do jack shit to design the model so it wasn't capable of that. In fact, there are people on their team who promote AI generated CP.

And how about all of the celebrities and public figures who's likenesses are being abused and infringed daily? And these cunts just laugh about it like they deserve it and have no rights to their likeness because apparently being famous or well known means you deserve to have no rights to privacy, intellectual property, or the commercial use of your likeness.

yeah wow, really well adjusted people, you sick delusional cunt.

>> No.6266212

>>6266200
>If anything keeping a consistent style will be easier than ever with AI
I really don't think so. To keep a consistent style you'll have to constantly specify "in the style of X", which will make the art look derivative and/or unoroginal

>> No.6266217

>>6266209
this is 4chan, don't expect anyone on here to have a working brain or an actual moral compass. just hide and go on with life, its easier on your soul and not worth it <3

>> No.6266219

>>6266209
Kill yourself retard.
Do you go to church to? Faggot

>> No.6266232
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6266232

>>6266209
I know you don't know how current AI works but I'll take the bait. No AI uses a single pixel of any existing work, nor is there any photographic data within the weights of the AI model. AI takes user interpretations (this is what CLIP does) and then starting with white noise the AI samples and denoises untill something coherent is produced. The AI is first and foremost an anbstract language interpreter with image generation as a byproduct.

Also we don't live in a vacuum and believe it or not the the current models actually encompass a very small fraction of the current art world.

People are going to do shady shit already, AI just makes it easier. Disinfo and deep fakes were a think before this came out, and that more of social issue on just how whored out and monotized our current media is as well as the pajeet chumbox clickbait advertizing we now see online.

>> No.6266238

>>6266232
An abstraction of someone’s data is still fucking with someone’s data undemocratically. Nobody is complaining about “pixels” but the source images being used during the training process to create an algorithm.
Everyone here knows how it works.

>> No.6266240

>>6266232
>Disinfo and deep fakes were a think before this came out
Yes, but it took things from "very hard to do and requires real skill" to "any tech-savvy kid can do it"
Which means it'll become absolutely commonplace

>> No.6266245

>>6266232
look at this cope. dunning-kruger at it's finest.

let's see you squirm, you little shit. how about you try to explain how a low-dim latent encoding is derived from a training example? go ahead, bitch.

>>6266181

>he dev team at Stability AI are neurotic jews, trannies, faggots, furries, potheads, morbidly obese, weebs, beta sois, and pajeet poos

ironically (or not), these are the people that above all are utterly incapable of self-awareness or reflection, which is exactly why we see the behavior and cope from them as we do.

>> No.6266252

>>6266219
>Do you go to church

lol, is this supposed to be some kind of insult? Maybe you should try it sometime, you horrifical demon spawn.

>> No.6266254

>>6261524
By "tool" you mean Google search and paint on top of the results.

People who use cheap photoshop cheats always stuck out as amateurs.

>> No.6266269
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6266269

>>6266232
lol this horse shit again.

>> No.6266284

>>6266269
>shows proof that the model is just doing sophisticated photobashing

Now think about what it means that Stability AI's model can create photorealistic child porn. Who's public family photos on the internet are being turned into CSAM?

Worst part: it's not any more or less ethical than deep fake porn with celebrities. None of them consented to their likenesses being turned into a product designed to abuse images of them on the internet.

>> No.6266297

>>6266232
>I know you don't know how current AI works but I'll take the bait. No AI uses a single pixel of any existing work, nor is there any photographic data within the weights of the AI model.

Yeah, it just copy-pastes pixels. It may not be using the actual photo in the generation, but it's still copying its pixels.

>> No.6266328

>>6266217
>don't expect anyone on here to have a working brain or an actual moral compass.

Just like Discord, where Stability AI is based out of and hires like 95% of their employees from. It's the first 100% degenerate high-profile technology company. How distinguished.

>> No.6266330

>>6266176
You wish. Yet furries games tend to do well because furries support their communities.

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6266384

>>6266297
what ever helps you sleep at night buddy. All you need you to know is that argument AI work is derivative will get thrown out of court because it's simply not true. Also you can't copyright a "style".

>> No.6266387

>>6266384
>try to explain how a low-dim latent encoding is derived from a training example?

Answer this, scumbag.

>> No.6266393

>>6266384

it's completely unique made from noise! any noise resemblance to >>6266269 bloodborne cover art is just... uhhh it just made it up!! becuz machine so smart!!

>> No.6266398
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6266398

>>6266393
lol, these people are fucking delusional, it's not even worth trying to talk with them. we are witnessing the emergence of yet another example of NPCs flocking to CURRENT THING and believing in it like a religion.

>> No.6266403

>>6266398
>Prompt Engineers
There's no way this becomes an actual job title. If anyone is proompting, it's going to be the company artist/graphic designers, why would they hire someone separately for this unskilled job? Just have the skilled employee do it as well.

>> No.6266406

>>6266403

Imagine being a janitor and calling yourself a "Architectural Hygiene Executive."

Same energy as these fucking insane cartoon versions of people.

>> No.6266412

>>6266398
based topic deflection anon <3 i know you have no answer.
oh, npcs flocking to current thing? like, you know, you people flocking to machine learning?

>> No.6266415

>>6266412
that's what I was saying, based retard anon

>> No.6266421

>>6266181
>Follow the money...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2022/09/07/stability-ai-funding-round-1-billion-valuation-stable-diffusion-text-to-image/?sh=3478965924d6

People should really start digging into this fellow and his org. I smell something stinky.

>> No.6266424

>>6266403
I'm a prompt engineer
If you think only artist/designers will be able to use AI effectively, then you haven't been paying attention

>> No.6266429

>>6266269
At this point it's just ripping meshes from things and photobashing them around. Through this we can be assured that those blurry signatures that occasionally appear around are actually part of someone's name and art the machine ripped from

>> No.6266433

>>6266429
I hope Stability AI gets sued into oblivion.

>> No.6266437

>>6266421
SHould have posted it in the shiba wearing beret hat when it was still around

>> No.6266441

>>6261461
souless vs souless
ok good job

>> No.6266443

>>6266181
>>6265802

>> No.6266455
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6266455

>>6266421
>follow the money
Since when does this board have common sense?

It still won't stop it.
You're playing a rigged game, and you still believe you can win it.

>> No.6266483

>>6266424
>If you think only artist/designers will be able to use AI effectively
No, the exact opposite, I think everyone can use AI art effectively, so your grandiose job title means little to nothing. The reason why artists/graphic designers will be using the AI is because they're the ones with the talents already to edit and change the work into what's the best fit for the client.

Like I said; Why hire someone else to prompt, when you can just have the artist/graphic designer you already have on do it?

>> No.6266491
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>>6266384
Oh no it's the cat is out of the bag schizo again

>> No.6266496

>>6266491
I seriously think these are all paid shills working in an Indian call center.
>”The genie’s out of the bottle”
>”The cat’s out of the bag”
>”Whatever helps you sleep at night”
They must all have a book of phrases they’re supposed to use.

>> No.6266501

>>6266496

that's literally true, someone on one of their discords said amazon gave emad like a million dollars in mechanical turk credits. 100% certain he's paying pajeets to shill this shit everywhere, especially twitter.

>> No.6266508

>>6266483
It's less because they know how to type into a box but it's because their job already generally involves a whole lot more than just making nice looking pictures. And since they can also type words into a box just fine while doing those other things there's no need to hire another guy whose only skill is that.
Plus also generally deep knowledge of different art styles and design principles etc. that comes from having either a formal art education or years on the job or both.

>> No.6266511

>>6266496
>>6266501
It gives off the same stench as /biz/ on an average day.

>> No.6266517

>>6266496
Shills can't post "nigger."
Shills won't post work.
Shills cannot argue and use insults and logical fallacies to try to win discussions.

AI is still going to replace you, nigger.
Go draw.

>> No.6266548

>>6266511
it's the smell of poo not in the loo

>> No.6266559

>>6266496
Their posts peak during India’s time zone. Why shill here tho?

>> No.6266560

>>6260824
I'm gonna trace over and recolor the characters I generate to have a consistent style and sell them as adopts to rich straight dudes yiffing as girls with other dudes which isn't straight all but nevermind that because you can't stop me.

>> No.6266682

>>6260979
That's literally half of /ic/ right now. But mods are too busy banning /g/ callout threads. So fuck this board, I've retreated to discords instead. Yea yea call me a discord tranny fuck you.

>> No.6266722

>>6260979
The poo is out of the loo.

>> No.6266724
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>> No.6266733

>>6266724
>codebros i thought we were safe from AI-ACK

>> No.6266740

>>6260824
based dragoneer

>> No.6266750

>>6260838
Based Zima Blue

>> No.6266761

>>6266733
You should see them on /g/. They were so smug a week ago but now when you post images like that they collectively lose their minds and insist that AIs aren't "actually programming"
The level of cope is insane. They genuinely thought they were safe.

>> No.6266776

>>6266761
I recall it generated quite the outspark from ITfags due to it using their datamined GitHub lines of code. Well, these same people are here telling us a machine should be allowed to replicate our style soo...

>> No.6266781

>>6266455
>i-it still wont stop it!
ai schizos are getting scared

>> No.6266810

>>6266421
That Pajeet makes his money via creating highly tuned trained models for specific applications and uses

>>6266429
I just love how AI is just digging deeper into the schizo mentality.

>> No.6266819

>>6266810
>highly tuned trained models for specific applications and uses
CAIAC19 is not real retard stop spreading conspiracy theories

>> No.6266820

>>6266819
This post reeks of pajeet shit eatet curry lover.

>> No.6266821

>>6266724
>AI generating art isn't stealing even if it uses art already made, idiot
>ok so we made an AI that generates code based off past code
>YOU DID WHAT THAT'S STEALING

>> No.6266827

I keep flipping back and forth over whether the sky is falling or whether everything will be ok.
If the AI can generate something then that means, by definition, there were already a million copies of it on the internet anyway. If you wanted to take a facial expression from somewhere and photobash it onto a body from somewhere else and slap it all onto a background from somewhere else, and do a quick paintover, you could already do that. A lot of artists did exactly that. The AI just makes it faster, is all. But we all knew that that sort of process never gave truly great results - that sort of work was always second-rate. If you wanted to make truly great art, there was no shortcut to learning it all yourself and having a really deep understanding of the fundamentals. I think things will continue to be that way.

>> No.6266830

>>6266827
Just fucking draw, moron

>> No.6266832

>>6266827
The biggest problem is how there are so many NFTbros flooding places like Artstation with pictures that are like cheap collages or blurry photobashing. And no we have a 'prompt engineer' meeting in London where the SD pajeet will validate their egos even more

>> No.6266855

>>6266832
Artstation was already garbage and impossible to use for employment.

>> No.6266882

>>6266810
>That Pajeet makes his money via creating highly tuned trained models for specific applications and uses

Bullshit. People have found out a lot about Emad and where hes getting funding from, and also his actual net worth. I'll leave that to others to expose, but he isn't what he portrays, let's put it that way. The guy is shifty as fuck.

>> No.6266910

>>6260970
pure soul

>> No.6266915
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6266915

Anyone has those "paid for only" prompts that are on sale on the AI Art prompt page?

There is the free "how to make DallE propts' booklet and excel, but exact/specific examples are "for sale only" at 3 - 5$ on the prompt marketplace - Promptbase

Or are those copyrighted and cannot be shared once bought?

>> No.6266917

>>6266915
Can you copyright an artist's name despite not being him? Because most of these paid prompts use artist names in them. Everything related to AI art is outside the boundaries of legality

>> No.6266922

>>6266917
Wait, they do? Fuck ok this is kinda hilarious.

OK so how does that Prompt market even work? You pay 500 for a box of prompts and then? Just put them up on your blog, or hoard them like a dragon with autism and a stack of dictionaries?

Please note, I dont know how PROPER prompts look like, since no one shares the ones that actually work every time/reasonably every time, so I can't compare as looks like they all paywall their shit now.

>> No.6266923

>>6266922
Going by the description of some of them their .txt files contain "high quality" prompts that give you better results to whatever prompted image is being advertised

>> No.6266928

>>6266923
Faq says its moderated/checked before upload for sale by the website mods (site takes 20% cut from each sale) so I assume they're reasonably legit

So yeah, anyone leaked that shit yet? And will they leak?

>> No.6266931

I’ve been thinking about how we can hurt AI art software, and the only thing I can think of is promoting the idea of not crediting it for the images it makes. It only makes sense, none of the artists it samples from get any credit or compensation.
Simply paint over AI shit and make it coherent and like it was actually made by a human being, and erase anything that ties it back to the AI software.
The only problem is still having to pay these software engineer faggots.
The other thing I’ve thought of was making the AI super racist, or a lolicon. Basically train it up to be like Tay.

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>>6266931
>The other thing I’ve thought of was making the AI super racist, or a lolicon. Basically train it up to be like Tay.

Poison the prompt pool, keep asking for things that will get it banned and will make more and more prompts delisted due to being "bypass to already forbidden NSFW content" like violence and porn.

Example: DallE already has "furry" listed as a banned word, its not in their ToS, its on their Discord/reddit only. Bypassing it by asking "furry like" descriptives is a bannable offence too apparently so just go wild on multiple accounts:
"Edit: while I’m unsure if you’ll get banned for trying to generate furry art by using other bypasses (“anthropomorphic character”), please keep in mind that others have got their access revoked recently for trying to use bypasses. Be careful"

/r/dalle2/comments/w73qpj/official_dalle_server_why_furry_art_is_a_banned/

>> No.6266937

>>6266931
Well AI proompters are already taking all the credit for whatever photobash the machine does for them, going as far as adding signatures to it.
On the other hand, anon has suggested making a dummy account and >>6263765 kek which I'm gonna try to do once I get SD running

>> No.6266952

>>6266827
This is such a good way of putting jt

>> No.6266953

>>6266937
>>6266937
take their signatures and slap them onto ai generated degeneracy and little girls. and repost and claim some of their images as your own while you're at it - either one of you could've produced them with the same tools anyways

>> No.6266971

>>6266953
That approach would get you instantly banned on normie platforms whereas you want to cultivate their ire for as long as possible before being banned. Also unlike Dall-E or MJ, Stable Diffusion is opensource so the head pajeet can't and won't (he is very transparent with ethics) just censor Emma Watson prompts because there's a achizo doing billions of naked pics with her face

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>imagine being so scared of a computer program you start making memes, spamming pro ai threads to actually shill against ai and plotting malicious acts to get it taken down, except actually drawing
Post your works... ah, wait, YOU DON'T EVEN DRAW!

>> No.6267009

>>6266990
>YOU DON'T EVEN DRAW!
Excuse me? Why are you so keen in offending the AI art community? I don't need an obsolete pen to draw when I can do that with words dumbass.

>> No.6267319

>>6261638
I almost vomited when I saw that lmao. Imagine trying to pass this off as art.

>> No.6267326

>>6261093
Yeah Elon lost big by pursuing his driving AI, huh? LOL and he thought he'd be poised to dominate the world with the tech!

Well, it sure feels comfy knowing it's not being aggressively pursued anymore, and that he's not amassing the biggest fortunes in the history of the world.

>> No.6267331

>>6260824
on the one hand, this is based (even though they're furries) because i don't like the people involved in or making AI art, so i don't care if they're banned from the entire internet

on the other hand, furry bro has fundamentally misunderstood how the neural networks work, and thinks it is 'stealing' someone's signature, rather than generating the kind of image it is trained to generate for a given prompt, which generally includes a signature. hence, it generate an illegible, alien signature which doesn't correspond to reality. the argument that "it's copying" from the sample base doesn't make sense, since furry art as a category is established by artists copying eachothers style to create new original content.

this also won't stop users from just referencing AI art heavily in their artworks, and AI art may simply be indistinguishable from human art in a couple years.

>> No.6267334

>>6265565
it doesn't 'contain' signatures, it doesn't contain anything other than hidden nodes. your masters hasn't done shit for you

>> No.6267336

>>6267331
>this also won't stop users from just referencing AI art heavily in their artworks
I don't think anyone who actually understands art is worried about this. People have been using photos in this manner long before Photoshop was even a thing, and before that it was real life models.
If AI stayed at this current level I'd be perfectly fine with its existence because this is still the best AI use case for artists and doesn't really replace other existing methods.
I'm worried though that it won't stay at the current level.

>> No.6267337

>>6265791
>Because us Furries love and support eachother
protip, if you want actual love and support, delete your furry trash accounts and go to church, apologize to your parents for being a disappointment, and stop posting this absolute garbage here. god can still forgive you for your reprobate actions, just pray to him and stop being a pathetic slime. being mentally ill / autistic / spent your entire life online isn't a valid excuse for being given over to your hedonistic urges

>> No.6267341

>>6267331
>thinks it is 'stealing' someone's signature, rather than generating the kind of image it is trained to generate for a given prompt, which generally includes a signature. hence, it generate an illegible, alien signature which doesn't correspond to reality. the argument that "it's copying" from the sample base doesn't make sense
Uh yes just like the blurry signatures i don't think the AI is 'stealing' bloodborne man who would think this is some photobashing tool with noise lmao >>6266269 the AI is just learning broo

>> No.6267346

>>6267336
it's unlikely to stay at the current level because so much money is being dumped into it, and it stands to be so lucrative if it can get to 90% of what a decent artist can do. it suffers from the same problems text generation does (ie. doesn't have any conception of truth, context, etc) but for things like stock images, coom art, and most illustration, it's fine.

>> No.6267352

>>6267341
yes, you are too stupid to understand how it works, so you can't see how giving the prompt "bloodborne" skews the ai towards generating an image of a character in costume with back turned to viewer.

protip: go to google and type in "bloodborne" and look at the type of images that come up, while remembering that the ai has no understanding of semantic meaning at all and is a gigantic pattern recognition machine. you are akin to a person typing "cat" and then being surprised when your image has small, fluffy objects with 4 legs a tail and round eyes. reddit nigger

if you want to test the best AI for yourself to prove that is not "copying" images, just get access to dall-e by telling them about your postgrad background in compsci, they will give you access quickly, at least did for me. oh wait, you can't do that because you don't have one, all you have is shitposts on internet lolololo

>> No.6267362

>>6266219
you should consider going to church, none of your soi hobbies and interests rooted in modernity will save you from rapture, reddit soience worshipper. and everything you love will be erased by the progress of the techno-demon god, including your shitty digital art and drawings, people will just generate them. only god can't be erased or subsumed into the goy machine. consider that for a minute rational atheist redditor slum trash then get back to your cyber favela

>> No.6267370

>>6267352
I don't give a fuck about what corporate statement you come up to rationalize the fact that the AI literally copypasted the image meshes 1:1 then claims it "generated" something anew by itself so an NFTard can sell it. Also
>sucks the cock of the hedgefund pajeet AI
>calling others redditors
These /g/fags are so transparent the only thing one can do when they pops up here is call them out whenever they appear

>> No.6267376

>>6267370
You're not actually making points. You're just lashing out because you're afraid.

>> No.6267381

>>6267370
you are just telling on yourself by tacitly admitting you neither understand how the technology works, nor have you taken the time to research it carefully, and you also don't have access to dall-e, only some script kiddies toy ai that you don't know how to use.
don't worry, none of your thoughts matter anyway because AI has already replaced you, because there is no art that is worth money that you are capable of creating. you are so stupid that you might as well use gpt-2 to generate your replies

>> No.6267382

>>6266931
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried showing Emma Watson any of those images that's been made of her? What about other celebrities? What's their response?

>> No.6267422

>>6266192
>they'll do it to music
you're 42 years too late, since the advent of hip hop and "sampling" lmao

>> No.6267438

>>6260895
Fiend.

>> No.6267489

>>6260838
Preeeeetty much lol.

>> No.6267497

>>6267009
If you criticize, make a suggestion, otherwise you're just a larping midwit fag.

>> No.6267500
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>>6261461

>> No.6267501

>>6260824
Literally modern machine -breaking luddites.

>> No.6267505

>>6261461
Finally someone reasonable.
/ic/ is seething so much it's just funny. They do not even try to make any concise point, just seething for the sake of seething because they are afraid of what they don't understand.

>> No.6267510

>AI is able to generate semantically accurate text from prompt
>no writer cares and is actively adapted into some workflows
>AI is able to generate drawings with accuracy increasing with every iteration
>NOOOO SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN
I don't understand, /ic/. What are you scared of?

>> No.6268019

>>6267376
>>6267381
Pure, undiluted cope and seethe.

>> No.6268201

>>6268019
who is coping and seething here except people mad about ai art? do you think screaming into the void will make ai programmers stop working on their models? lol. stupid vaxxed nigger.

>> No.6268208

>>6261487
>all you need is a couple months worth of hours in an art program and you can fix simple shit like this.
retard, you need to understand what makes a picture look good, not just how to use tools. YWNBAA, you disgusting pedophile. you don't even belong on the streets, you should go to prison

>> No.6268210

>>6261461
shit vs shit but different. lol. what kind of artist chooses to paint over AI instead of using their mental images anyway?

>> No.6268221

>>6268210
>implying digital "artists" have mental images

>> No.6268228

>>6267510
AI writers are good for nothing but automated churnalism.

Artists pour their souls into their work, churnalists just copy/paste from eachother.

>> No.6268257

>>6268221
baseless shit flinging

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>>6262437
WRONG, my drawings look like anti-soul because they were Cal-arts shit like Trulli Tales or Boy Girl Dog Cat Mouse Cheese. Where is the soul on something like this wich lacks perspective and volume?

>> No.6268419

>>6266931
This thing will already hurt itself as it gets better. As long a it generates passable blobs it will remain a novelty, when it starts making 99% passable images it will pave the way for all kinds of malicious content. It will become google images without a traceable source or an artist, except google images already has restrictions on the kind of content you can look on it. Stable Diffusion and its ilk will either have to cripple themselves (further) or bask in the chaos that they will generate.

The argument that AI image generators will be defeated predominantly by copyright strikes is a gravely false one. They force us to reconsider our ethics altogether. So far the pajeet and his tranny /g/ shills have had trouble arguing the ethical side of AI image generation. Is the cat out of the bag? Yeah. Is the genie out of the bottle? Seems so. Are there precautions that the cat won't destroy the drappery and the genie isn't a fiend...?

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>>6268329
>flat=bad
I don't know what's more offensive between your constant wallowing in self-pity or your complete retard takes.
I hate replying to you but it's extremely annoying having to see yet another schizo spammer. Stop posting.

>> No.6268428

>>6268201
vaxxed niggers are the ones most likely to accept schwabian projects like 6g and ai tho

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6268456

>>6266931
do what the glow niggers did to occupy wall street, get in the discord and and call for more equality, the prompts aren't making enough black people, when you are for a woman it always gives a cis and never a trans woman, prompts for weapons are triggering and make me feel unsafe. Make them bend over backwards and tie them in a knot.

>> No.6268561

>>6267500
All I see is the artists that previously would make anime figure 3/4 facing in the white void now have placement and setting thanks to their AI BG artist.

>> No.6268980

>>6260838
esl moment

>> No.6269331

Anyone knows how to format & add weight to prompts in Wombo AI?

DallE and StableDiffusion have different ways of adding weight/formatting prompts, like ((text)) or text:1.0 and I cant find any info on Wombo's

>> No.6269681

>>6268201
>stupid vaxxed nigger.


says the ai bootlicker lol.

>> No.6271139

>>6266398
>>6266424
>engineer
It's not enough AI cunts are trying to claim the title of artist, but now engineer? Lmao no, you're an overglorified google image searcher. Its like calling someone a "Chief Academia Sanitation Executive" when in reality, it translates into "the only janitor working at a middle school." Extra fluff to make yourself sound more important and skilled.

>> No.6271291

>>6261315
It's funny as funny af. Theres a discord that lets generate code on the fly similar to the images.

It doesn't matter anymore lol we are being replaced.

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6271299

>>6261112
You'll be automated too faggot. .gpt3 literally generated code for me in seconds.

No one will be saved. Eat your cow shit pajeet

>> No.6271305

>>6269681
i'm just able to accept reality

>> No.6271318

>>6260899
>Money grubbing fucks.
kys commie.

>> No.6271321

>>6262735
digital
tulips

>> No.6271334

>>6262735
soon people wont believe you if you tell them you own even 1btc, lul

>> No.6271531

>>6271299
>GPT-3
GPT based algorithms will never be able to code, they are just fundamentally not intelligent. There is for example GitHub copilot which is an network specially designed to write code and even this is nothing more than a gimmick, an AI that can do nothing more than a fuzzy "complete a sentence" using statistics from a large dataset.
You faggots need to understand that to do programmer's job you need human level intelligence, to do an artist's job you need human level intelligence, nearly all human tasks/jobs require human level intelligence and we are far from AGI to do that. Every and all AIs we currently have and will have for quite a long time can only assist you, do some stuff that is hard for humans but fail miserably on what is easy on humans, see Moravec's paradox.