/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6224666
I don't hate it nor do I fear it, I just don't care.

Is it just me or ai is exclusively used by trannime and video game manchildren?

>>6224882
because realism is already a solved issue.

>>6224666
>.30 cents have been deposited into your account.

>>6224666
Which AI is that and how has it improved your art

You will eat the bug. You will drink bug's milk. You will live with A.I art. And you will be happy.

>>6224882
>trannies and manchildren
They're the same thing.

>>6224882
Only manchildren like you is pushing these self made buzzword.

Saw some Twitter Leftoids fighting this A.I shit. Very ironic, since they were the main force sabotaging arts for years, now suddenly fighting for its purity.

>>6225426
Seriously. As a tradfag, AI and digital are the same to me, and I do not mean that as an insult. I mean you're both also artists just using different tools than me. How is AI any more or less bad than tracing 3D models? How is it any more or less bad than brushes that make hair and grass for you with one swipe or tools that automatically put things into perspective? It's not. It's just another tool. Use it or don't, but please stop freaking the fuck out like this. I wonder if this is how realistic painters reacted when the camera was invented.

>>6225437
>guys I'm an artist just like you why are you so upset haha AI is just like Photoshop brushes
Fuck off, larper shill.

>>6225401
I will not eat the bug. I will not live in the pod. I will not take the vax. I will continue to work out. I will continue to draw. I will continue to hate kikes.

>>6225443
You know I'm right and that's why you're so upset. You rely on brushes to do things trad artists spend hours doing by hand, stroke by stroke and line by line in just a few seconds. There is literally nothing wrong with either side. I enjoy making art my way and you enjoy making art yours. I see AI as the same thing - instead of spending a longer time photobashing and tracing to get to your end result, you just use AI.

>>6225437
AI is not a fucking tool you dipshit, I see so many retards arguing this, but this tech is not being designed as a "tool" for artists to use, in the same way photography or photoshop or 3D were. It's not being designed with artists in mind, it's created for non-artists to bypass the artist entirely

>>6225453
>>You rely on brushes to do things trad artists spend hours doing by hand, stroke by stroke and line by line in just a few seconds.

How to tell you are an A.I shill tourist without telling it straight out:

>>6225465
Oh fuck off. I make a mistake on my paintings and I have to either redo it or figure out how to cover it up. You just use undo. How is that cheating any less than AI?

>>6225437
also what people do with their "prompts" is literally no different to what clients do when asking for art from an artist, getting iterations, revisions, etc. So why the fuck does anyone think that they are going to go to an artist lmao when a producer literally already does something similar themselves. anyone who thinks that this tech has ANY role, be it backgrounds or anything else, in their workflow, is naive and going to get what's coming to them very shortly

>>6225453
>You rely on brushes to do things trad artists spend hours doing by hand, stroke by stroke and line by line in just a few seconds

I'm waiting for this brush to draw the dragon vs fire knight masterpiece. Stupid brush making me waiting for 5 hours already and the canvas still blank

>>6225469
get an eraser you stupid nigger, or paint over it
t.tradchad

>>6225469
go back >>>/g/

>>6225474
i always find digital and traditional to be very same-y. Paint over is always a more effective way to fix mistake rather than digging the errors in those PSD layers like an autist.

>>6225481
I agree, picking colours is also more intuitive traditionally, because you can literally mix as you go along and adjust values by just using the colour you want to shift it towards; instead of picking a random colour and hoping its correct

>>6225484
Digital coloring has always been a problem due to its untransforming nature. They don't mix to each others and don't blend well with a digital canvas. I can never recreate the softness of pencil on digital, no matter what pencil brush i chosen. Digital always contain a different feeling to them and has always being looked down upon in term of value when compares to traditional art. The only downside of traditional art is how expensive they are.

>>6225496
people who argue that digital is easier than traditional have no idea, the tools are rudimentary and often you have to spend a long time to replicate the look and feel of traditional mediums, if you want to get the right look

>>6225437
>As a tradfag,
pyw you fuckin larper

>>6225500
I'm always wondering if there is anyway to make digital painting looks less stiff. Even those Chinese mega artists, their digital painting still has something uncomparable compares to the traditional ones. Traditional/ Cel paitings always look superior compares to digital and i'm jealous of everyone who mastered this form of art.

>>6225469
because it's your mistakes that you're correcting, not the AI's you tard

>>6225437
>Uber Eats is just a tool, bro. I'm just as much of a chef as you are.

>>6225401
>>6225446
for the umpteenth time:
INSECT PROTEIN is the only viable alternative to non sustainable cattle rasing. unless you have money invested on the cattle business, you should support it, no matter what MSM and guerrilla marketing say about it

>>6225560
You're not correcting a mistake. You're erasing the mistake from existence.

>>6225690
>>the only viable alternative to non sustainable cattle rasing

Communist countries during the 70s - 80s ate outdated crops as main food. Cattle mysteriously became rare for an "unknown reason". Once they offered the alternative, the main shit will suddenly become the expensive premium. Once you fell for it, it takes decades to undo after the jews and the commie ate enough fresh meat and fesh veggies for their lifetime.

>>6225690
Indeed, I WILL eat the bugmen!

>>6225697
are you retarded? there's not enough land in the whole world to raise enough cattle for everyone. most 3rd world countries use ALL their available land to raise cattle for americans and the 1st world
there's no fucking mistery: fish or insect farming are viable alternatives for everybody to get meat, cattle raising isn't

>>6225782
world population is too big for us to live the way we are supposed to

>>6225782
Why not promote fish instead of bugs

>>6225782
>>6225785
Not true, the world ''is overpopulated'' is a lie made by globalists to get away with shaping the world as they see fit

t. Will never eat the bugs

>>6225791
Because no one owns bugs in the west, its a fresh market for the buddies of the same people promoting it to kickstart and be the first in business, simple as. The fact the WEF is the one whispering in politician's ears to bring about this, should tell you all you need to know.

Rich business men don't engage in politics unless they get something out of it, and please, don't dare say the people flying in private jets actually care about the planet. KEK.

>>6225799
>african population is set to triple in the late decades
Cope

>>6225799
are you fucking stupid, globalists want the population to explode which is why they keep importing more niggers and chinks to every first world country, creating artificial growth for the economy, otherwise their ponzi pyramid scheme comes tumbling down
the human population was stable for a long time before WWI - eg. the onset of globalism

>>6225804
It can triple, and we still won't be overpopulated. This sick, mishanthropic idea put in your mind by sociopaths that want power over you needs to die asap.

THERE IS NO OVERPOPULATION. There is only fear mongering from rich businessmen and sociopaths that get off being able to shape the world as they see fit to guarantee their survival over yours. You vill be the one eating the bugs, while Klaus and his buds run the bug farms and eat steak everynight.

>>6225808
Yeah, they want it to explode but what they want above all is your fear and stress, of you and the entire country. ''Make the problem, and sell the solution'' it doesn't matter if the problem is real or not.

>>6225694
what

>>6225401
>cockroach milk
this used to be someone's obscure fetish

>>6225515
random noise?

>>6225437
There has to be a limit at some point.
If you tell another human to paint you a picture and he does then you’re not an artist. He’s not a tool. He’s the artist, you’re not.
If you edit an AI image a lot then the line starts to get blurry. But if you just take the output of the AI and accept it as is, then I don’t see how you can be an artist.

>>6225782
I live in 3rd world country and what you said is bullshit. It is much more costly to raise and farm fish than pigs.
During communist era of the 80s, suddenly pork became a rare expensive luxury. They will take away your meat once they introduce the alternatives for it. Back then, it was some disgusting crop they came up with.

>>6225515
It's the brush. Most digital painters will turn stroke size variance off, making many strokes all the same size. You just have more control over the final result that way. Like the highlights on the leg of Priss, that wobbly imperfect shape would be smoothed out by most digital painters, not realizing the imperfection gives it life.

>>6225515
The best advise draw asymmetric when possible.

>>6224666
is this the AI general?
i have some time over the weekend. what software should i install or whatever to start learning this shit?

>>6226339
Open source is Monday. got a gaming GPU? with 6.1+gb ram? then you can install stable diffusion.
otherwise go try stable diffusion at https://beta.dreamstudio.ai, 200 free image gens at default settings. beware it's buggy, and really shit interface, so you might lose what you got or use up all your free credits in minutes.

>>6225690
I would cook and eat a live Jew before they tell me to eat a bug.

>>6224666
lol
lmao

>>6226527
>an artist dies
>instantly add him to the database
>DO YOU MISS #ARTISTNAME??? BOY DO WE HAVE GREAT NEWS FOR YOU!
based

>>6226548
That looks more like the art of attack on titan than Miura's

So whats now?, i'm a /beg/ and i started to learn to draw because i wanted to make comics, but now I have the knowledge of ai generated images, so what i do?
I continue to learning to draw or I start using softwares to make creative things?

>>6226558
if you dont care about using ai then why do you need our opinions? just use it

>>6226565
can i make porn using Ai and sell it?

I dunno, i started to draw because I want to have this sensation of dominating things, that feel of satisfaction of failing and the doing it again until you did it right.
That feel what make you proud of yourself and tell to your self, yeah, i did it.

>>6226548
As an average consumer i absolute adore the idea since i can continue consuming products even if the original creator isn't able to produce that product anymore.

>>6226581
you can get the same feeling by learning to program photoshop plugins in c++, or of medieval bellfounding, or whatever
in the other hand, if you want to become a competent artist, you better learn the current tools, because everybody else is doing it

>>6226354
>8GB VRAM gayming pc
preposterous. i'm just an average third worlder trying to learn the latest techniques to outcompete the hordes of pajeets
1st worlders truly live in easy mode and are completely clueless about real life

>>6226527
>you're a moralist
the fuck did he even meant by this? it's a bad thing to have a sense of morality? This Josef mengele if he was a Silicon Valley techbro cuck?

>>6226598
and that feels as good as drawing whatever you had in your head.

I'm starting to have interest in learn to make 3d models and renders, using blender. i dont kwon but i will still learnig to draw because ai generated images are just garbage at this point, i will expect some years if it becomes good.

>>6226612
AI is learning how to project it's images into 3d planes. Nowhere is safe from it, but have it in your mind that the digital form will be completely dominated by it before it focus on the outside

>>6226615
do you think people will be afraid of art made by machines, like that efect called "uncanny valley".

>>6226612
>drawing whatever you had in your head
that's all that /begs/ dream about. an interesting endgame for a hobbist, i guess
irl, pros will use every tool and shortcut they can to get shit done
i wouldn't recommend art as a career for you, cause it's just soulcrushing endless work hours on stuff you don't care about. as a hobby, it's the best

>>6226643
Wow, i think this board become a hope drestroying contest, but i just want to have that sensation, that satisfaction of put in paper whatever you have in your mind, and i don't think a machine can do that, there are none machine who can read your mind.

>>6226527
people should able to break into peoples houses and steal their furniture because they need furniture and it benefits them, if you are against that you are just a moralist.

>>6226604
I got an 8gb gpu in 2016 (1070), still going strong.

>>6226656
someday machines will do that, because there's not a ceiling in what they can achieve, contrary to your unsurmountable biological limitations
but that day is not today, machines are still dumb af

>>6226687
good for you?
90% humanity would kill you without remorse to steal your money if given the chance. don't give them the chance

Reminder. don't think that the machine won't eventually come for your hobby. Novels and Art are just the first steps

>>6226697
machines can't take the joy out of a hobby, retard
they can make soulless jobs less valuable, but that's a different story

>>6226688
if you like machines so much why don't you marry one?

>>6226706
i would if i could :(

>>6226527
>researcher calling others 'moralists'

>>6226709
>/g/fag is a pedo
why is this so common?

>born too late to live in a world without the AI
>born too early to become an augmented cyborg that mogs the AI
It's not fair...

>>6226527
>thinks blocking him will save him
"OH MR STEINBERG, WE HAVE A SUBPOENA TO SENDDDDD"

>>6226697
My hobby is swimming... Ai gonna drink all the water or something?

>>6226802
ai nanomachines in the water, infecting your body to enforce state mandated hormone levels

>>6226812
My hobby is being cucked by ai.

>>6226786
Training machine learning on copyrighted material is not the same as copy pasting someone's work and selling it. You can't stop people training shit on your work if it's on the internet anyway so cope and sneed, information wants to be free.

https://beta.dreamstudio.ai/ more free shit

>>6226827
membership > Account Settings > safe mode off for nudes

>>6226840
does it work with cee-pee?

>>6226860
Just try it. Someone already successfully did it with an offline model.

>>6226866
>Just try it
nah, i try to avoid being ostracized, cancelled, incarcerated, and executed for wrong thinking
>offline model
don't have $3000USD to invest on a gayming computer right now. maybe in ~5 years, if everything goes right

>>6226878
There's no moderation at all. Nobody will notice.

>>6226860
>>6226878
I don't know what country but in the US ai images are not subject to copyright, I'm no lawyer but to me that sounds like no one person would be help accountable for that stuff because there is no owner.

>>6226817
OH YES WE CAN NIGGER
YES WE CAN
>USPTO.GOV

>>6226950
What does this mean for other countries?

>>6226950
https://www.uspto.gov/about-us/news-updates/remarks-director-kathi-vidal-aiet-partnership-series-1-kickoff-uspto-aiet
>AI is so innovative!!! Only good things for society!!!!!
This same site is publishing interviews slurping AI

>>6226957
Irrelevant. you will NOT infringe on copyright faggot
cope and SEETHE

>>6226840
Kikes removed nsfw option, kek.

>>6226950
Kek that says literally nothing about it other than just blank generic statements by a government department. Have fun trying to litigate against Google, Tesla, whoever, that they scraped your shitty /beg/ tier scribbles.

>>6224666
begone satan

how about we start a blacklist of any artist who uses ai, who's up for that?

>>6226967
Sorry little man, you are the only one seething here. Get obsoleted meatbag, time to learn a real skill.

>>6226950
>Stage three: bargaining

>>6226957
>>6227063
>>6227080
samefag desperate to see the world burn. don't worry faggot, you will still kill yourself over being a worthless loser

>>6227082
Kek the first guy was agreeing with you, can't even identify samefags correctly, sad. No wonder you are getting replaced by a computer program.

>>6227082
meant to reply to>>6227061 not the first guy, which is still you. I wonder why would a pedo worry so much about the world's problems, when he's going to get his neck snapped by a nigger in prison anyway

>https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/73722?tab=description
tfw can't even mod skyrim without seeing this garbage

>>6226950
We won't be able to use AI to make art of Mario and other IPs? How is that any different from 5 years ago?

>>6227089
>4chan racist calling other people losers

Hilarious

>>6227097
>newfag tries to ruin an entire board with this spam
how typical. I think it's more and more obvious that you're from /leftypol/, it's no wonder you push for exactly what Karl Marx envisioned for the world

>be me, half native american
>my native father died when I was born, so my mother just moved away and raised me outside of the reservations
>just found out a few days ago that I have a native half brother and uncles/aunts/cousins
>they're all well known artists and wood carvers
goodbye fuckers, I'm going to go reunite with my family and go make some totem poles and shit

>>6227106
Deranged schizo thinks everyone who doesn't like his nonsensical racist ramblings is some rent free boogeyman

>>6227121
>>/reddit/

even though art school is a meme, I wished I went to one before the ai came by. It would've been fun to do art and be surrounded by other artists, just for the experiences

>>6227155
Well, at least your situation is certainly preferable to the people who were caught by this while still cursing art school. I don't know how art students are able to sleep at night when these AIs are knocking on their sanity

ive never seen an ai image that wasn't blatantly made by ai

>>6227205
a bot made this one

>>6227207
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/85456532
dumb nigger

>>6227207
>>6227211
lmao

>>6227108
Based as hell.
My favorite human in the world right now is a Native American. I was lucky as hell she was my professor for a term. No other way to put this, but she was the smartest person I’ve met in my life, and the most wonderful in every way.
I still have no idea how my college brought her in to teach there for a little while, my mind’s still blown many years layer.
Also the Native American owned family store down the road smokes the best salmon i’ve tasted in my life.

>>6227211
of course /ic/ passes the turing test

>>6227108
are you gonna stick it in >>6227213 his ass or just let him suck you off?

man /g/tards are annoying as fuck. And I'm a STEMfag with a drawing hobby

>>6224666
i don't get that picture
which one is the AI? why should i be amazed?

G

>>6227715
Both are AI, he just cut out and aranged limbs of a bad generation on the left, and passed it through img2img, to get a slightly cleaned up image, closing the seams in the cut job etc.

>>6224666
Corporate shills are on the full swing these last couple of days. What is happening?

>>6227738
it reminds me a lot of the "hoes mad" stuff when a vtuber beat a bunch of hos in the chaturbate rankings. humans actually fucking despise other human beings and want to see them homeless and suffering for whatever reason.

>>6227738
>it's bots and shills and not genuinely concerned anons who feel like their very lives have been threatened

I listened to the podcast with the pajeet who designed this crap today and it made me want to so unspeakable things (in minecraft) holy shit
https://interdependence.fm/episodes/open-source-ai-and-stable-diffusion-with-emad-mostaque incase anyone hates themselves as much as I do

>>6227746
summ it up in 2 sentences.

>>6227749
2 AI nft shills pretending to be "artists" while some some hedge fund capitalist talks about how he is making the world a better place with this satanic shit and huffs his own farts

>>6227746
he's also anti craftsman and pro nft btw and says that art should have no skill behind it beyond the ideas

AI fags get the rope.

>>6227738
some fag from /g/ seems to have started posting over here since he's getting ignored/called a retard in their stable diffusion generals. the exact same posts, images and seething writing style, but of course the idiots here are actually feeding him (you)s.

People were warning against it for years and you wouldnt listen
https://digdeeper.club/articles/ai.xhtml

>>6226693
They also do the same to each other. Hint: the fact they're accepting of theft as a normal part of life is the *reason* they live in shithole, low-trust countries. You can't build good civilisations out of a pack of criminals. They are getting what they deserve.

>>6225401
pyp bois letz go

>>6227836

>>6227844

>>6227845

>>6227746
>"What kind of artist are you?"
>"Are you an artist who does it for money? maybe that will go away"
"For me, Art is about story, the best artists are the ones who tell best stories"

Holy shit he is retarded.

>>6227853
>they are here among us
it's over

>>6227856
at the end he literally talks about sending the tech to the third world to educate african orphans with noise appearing pngs kek
take a shot for every
>we're making the world a better place
>we're making the world a better place
>crypto crypto crypto
>nft
>new unlocked creativite communities and potential
>we're making the world a better place

>“We hope to be the catalyst to coordinate global open source AI, both independent and academic, to build vital infrastructure, models and tools to maximize our collective potential,” Mostaque said. “This is amazing technology that can transform humanity for the better and should be open infrastructure for all.”

>>6227861
>we're making the world a better place
oh yeah I actually believe he believes this. These guys are totally deluded

>>6227864
too bad you lose your character design or graphic novel gig luckily the nft space has been activated for artists to reach your maximum creative visions and potential!
shifty motherfucker doesn't even mention theyre backed by amazon

>>6227864
also we're going to sell you back your own customised dataset that we stole by datascraping that can generate infinite variations of your art for you so you never have to draw again! Aren't you happy :D

>"noo ai will not replace humans. you can have fun painting over it and such!"
>https://youtu.be/EsQgD9yNMxU?t=307
>its literally worse

>>6227878
ross tran is an industry plant literal glowie who gets paid off by big tech to pretend its artist friendly, he did the same with nfts

>>6227859
>it's over
Even Skynet know it's true.

>>6227878
of course this soulless bug man shills for AI replacement

>>6227885
that doesn't involve an anime girl or pepe/wojak
>how can it fail that spectacularly

>>6227892
Verification not required.

>>6227864
> Sis please contribute to my IP laundery scheme, thank you sirs

>>6227893
I'm not impressed unless it gives me a hanged tranny
>ounce again how can fuck up this badly

>>6227898
he also admits that the only people who are going to be benefitting from this shit are the companies that own the AI

>>6227899
Did you even read the comic?

i will not eat the bugs.

>>6227901
I mean you are comiting mass copyright violation to make one industry financially inviable while propping up another one before legislation even catches up.

The problem is not technology, the problem is building that tech on what is essentially laundering plagiarism.

Seems to be an crime against economy.

>>6227063
>n-no you!
neck yourself your days are over

>>6227916
...no
>and going to try and decipher chicken scratched writing typed by a retard
>pic related

>>6227093
>we
are you the ones developing the ai program

Normies love it

>>6227963
>conveniently censoring the subreddit name
you're not fooling anyone AI shill

>>6227745
why isn't /mu/ concerned about AI music?

>>6227963
>>6228047
Normies are actually HATING it with passion now. Very suspicious
It seems like propaganda narrative is that everything outside tight government control is evil

>>6228051
Majority of mu are consumers while ic posters are mostly creators in the first place.

Will anyone actually post good AI examples?

>draw such outlandish and specific porn no AI would be able to do it right for decades to come cause there's barely any of it on the internet
kinkchads win again

Alright I'm going to move to japan and try to become an animator while the job still exists. I know the job is shit but it's on my bucket list. hope I don't starve, but I don't want to miss out

>>6225863
>>6225401
Mfw cockroach milk is just cockroach cum. Never trust "milk" from a non-mammal.

>>6227861
i am actualy atheist, BUT this nigger a fucking real antichrist and was send in this world to kill human souls with this shit

>>6225470
>thinks that this tech has ANY role, be it backgrounds or anything else, in their workflow, is naive and going to get what's coming to them very shortly
t. mr. i-dont-give-a-fuck-but-will-be-fucked-first

>>6227878
why he call himself pro artist, this dude gross money from youtube from making videos not from his drawings

>>6228300
you're not that special. current ai is pure shit but it excels precisely at "outlandish" and "specific" prompts

>>6228320
first of all, this MACHINE LEARNING cannot go outside the variations it never seen, that's the most important thing that humanity only is capable

>>6228304
i get your epic eat-the-bugs meme, but please be aware that you're parroting propaganda fabricated by corporations with hidden agendas, that don't give a shit about you
for commoners like us, getting your protein intake from mashed maggots or slaughtered cows is basically the same

>>6228331
> a guy thinks fake resistance is real resistance

>>6228325
Wrong
Try and draw/imagine 4d

>>6228325
>cannot go outside the variations it [has] never seen
just try any of the new ones. you're in for a shock bro
>>6228332
propaganda is supposed to be as crude, basic, and emotional as possible. there's no space for being subtle or ironic, cause the raw primal message always wins

>>6228297

>>6228348
>propaganda is supposed to be as crude, basic, and emotional as possible. there's no space for being subtle or ironic, cause the raw primal message always wins
so why we hate ai and corpo shit, welcome

>>6228344
do better, try making machine learning draw 4d image

>>6228348
>just try any of the new ones. you're in for a shock bro
shill detected, back to /g/

Ai can also create music on par with classically trained composers

https://youtu.be/W5v0TGcVldU

Movie/vidya composers are getting chopped off soon

>>6228352
you're not supposed to HATE corporations, but being rational about things that are convenient or inconvenient for your personal interests
as soon as you say HATE, i know you are being emotional and irrational, and probably got sucked into drinking someone's else koolaid

>>6228361
>Ai can also create
i crack on this every time, machine learning just shuffles the sounds around, it makes no value to them, so the product has no value either

/g/niggers get the rope

>>6228362
>you're not supposed to HATE corporations
well i do, because i have a black list of things they spoil, people kiledl and things destroyed, you are a piece of triviality, thinking people with ideas are parasitic, but the thing is this human civilization is created from the basic idea that everything can be better and not being idealistic makes you a parasite in this world, i have arguments to be emotional

>>6228361
Considering that AI generated symphony sounds exactly like every other symphony I've ever heard, I think all this proves isn't that AI is "replacing" human creativity, but rather exposing how uncreative humans really are.

>>6228375
>i have arguments to be emotional
No, you don't. see: corporations have complex and even contradictory interests, the real world is not a disney movie, black and white morals are for little kids
X corporation GOOD, or Y corporation BAD are gross oversimplifications designed to appeal to your primal instincs instead of your good judgement. (You) are not inmune to propaganda. Governments invest billions in propaganda because shit's really, really effective

>>6228365
basically what humans do

>>6228384
>corporations have complex and even contradictory interests
never thought profit is contradictory interest
> X corporation GOOD, or Y corporation BAD are gross oversimplifications
oh yes, killing people must be a good thing, maybe one of them was a pedophile, jesus fucking christ
> Governments invest billions in propaganda because shit's really, really effective
and then silences my opinion, must be a good thing for me, stop playing a guy who tries to overplay everyone, you are worse than a stock redditor

>>6228391
that was so bad, I almost facepalmed, please proceed to /g/

>>6228408
i just don't get your fairytale narrative, bro. corporations are EVIL because they want profit, and that's a bad thing just because?
there can't be BAD without GOOD, by definition. who's the good guy in your brain? some nonprofit? the communist party? the elites? the media? find that, and you'll know whose propaganda are you eating up

>>6228421
okay, lets reform the phrase, can you stop playing rhetoric deep-phylosophy-slide sentences, which make completely no addition to an argument of machine learning becoming a bad thing because it can corrode the craft and make dipshits like you and other ni/g/gers play "ama artizd" theater? this tool is about profit. SOLELY about it and now look what it can do - it trivializes a whole art sphere, just because someone wants to make a shit working, actually believing in a colourful horses, now it's your turn to turn your head around and find out all bad and good definitions

>>6228365
Who gives a shit. It sounds no different from mid-tier Joe Hisaishi song.
They are just gonna hire a main composer for the main theme and use AI as filler

>>6228377
>>6228391
This

>>6228445
>Who gives a shit
everyone who gives a shit about what he does and what he believes in, excluding you, because you are ape and probably deserve to live in a filtration camp

>>6228444
nice trips bro
i was actually talking about insect proteins, but yeah, without any emotional bias i can see that the state is must worried about OPEN SOURCE image generating AIs and all kind of future open source AI advancement, because it is more shit that they can't censor, and it will be hard to control the narrative as easy as they do it now
think about it in logical terms instead of trying to pigeonhole complex real life stuff into memes and shit

>>6228465
well, okay, i will think about people who say if they don't see a vagina it must be a dick under the skirt

>>6228377
Honestly, this is a bit harsh but true. If a boring loss function optimizer can replace someone then chance are, this person wasn't really creating anything in the first place. I'm still concerned AGI will come sooner or later and inevitably overshadow every bit of human intelligence.

>>6228458
>Enters royal road chord progression into AI music
>Get authentic-sounding japanese music for my amateur vidya instead of paying a hack who will do the same thing anyway.

https://youtu.be/6aezSL_GvZA

Like Nobuo Uematsu.

90%of artists will get filtered

>>6228470
good for you, open your mind and break your schemes, bro
vaginas are cool, but only the innies

>>6228487
>N-No japan has soul-

https://youtu.be/ZZUSgfYAg30

Japanese is good at finding a really good concept and then copying each other
Tezuka's huge eyes and dynamic panelling
Toriyama's talent for choregraphy and tropes
New-gen moe

And then millions of people follow suit. Just like it's piss easy to create a celtic song when you finally know the chord, most artists simply make collages of pre-existing works.
Ai will crush them

>>6228504
Japanese are*

>>6228487
congrats, you just devalued it

>>6228488
no, i don't want to touch your skirt, gtfo

>>6228526
no skirt here bro, but with this climate i might try one
not interested in you touching my dick either, but i'm flattered you think so much about it

>>6228518
>devalued
For weebs who thought japanese music was made out of magic.
Every nip composer knows about the royal road chord progression because even an idiot can make a good sounding melody with it.
Ai will replace these people.

Idols will still have a job as glorified singing fapbaits though

If you have a thriving tech community in your city there's a very good chance that techfag is a proponent of AI generators. 100% chance if they were proponents of NFTs last year.
There's more than enough information on each and every one of them via their twitter, facebook, linkedin, and reddit accounts.
Lynch them.

>>6228535
>Ai will replace these people
that's the thing about royal chord, people are reinventing it every time, but machine learning doesn't care, therefore it's not having a value

>>6228556
>people are reinventing it every time

They aren't.
It's still the same 4 chords but they use a different rhythm with different notes while still falling withing these 4 chords played in the same order.
AI can easily do that, just like Alpha GO crushed the world champion. by calculating more possibilities than the human could

Royal road chord progress + 3/4 rhythm in the style of a waltz and you get this
https://youtu.be/aP0m-PJozWo?t=19

>>6228553
>TRUMP BAD
>RUSSIA BAD
>CRYPTO CURRENCY BAD

AI makes me feel alone like never before

>>6229003

>>6228582
Yes, no and yes

>>6229015
This post may aswell be from a bot. No way to know

>>6229003
Don't feel glum chum. Try our new AI therapist, Jung.ai! If that doesn't suit you, how about get an AI buddy at BotBuddy.ai. never feel alone again.

the only good thing I can see coming out of an ai takeover is being able to plug myself into a vr bot and pretend to be an artist in my virtual larp before the ai takeover.
that is, if the pajeet bot doesn't decide to kill off the human race out of disgust

Its getting too good too fast.

>>6229040
The stable diffusion pajeet literally shilled some therapist ai in that video interview he did

>>6229055
empty and forgettable

>be me 8 months ago
>18
>start drawing, discover it's my passion
>artistically draw/study for several hours every day
>suddenly dall-e
i never even had a chance

>>6229060
just add
>soulful, memorable, outstanding

>>6229055
Holyshit

>2010 was the last decade of art
I wish I would've known so I could've spent more time doing art

>>6228582
The trannies are the ones behind this ai push you faggot

how can we welcome are wonderful saviors?

>>6229106
Same... I did 1000s of paintings, but I didn't reach legend status yet. I was aiming for the top... Now what? can a new legend be born on the battlefield?

>>6229061
Be grateful it didn't hit you at 30 after you spent almost 15 years grinding.

>>6229180
That's me, except it's more like 25 years grinding.

>>6229180
>>6229184
You spent all these years grinding and you didn't make something memorable that people can recognize?

>>6226527
>Being influenced by an artist is theft
What? What kind of hellscape are you trying to set up here, this is just as bad as saying drawing anime is cultural appropriation, actually worse, this like those cretins that thought they could use nfts to force people to pay royalties for using the same colours.

>>6229184
At least you would have had a chance to experience a career, mine is dead just as i was beginning to earn enough to make a life, 10 more years and I would have been able to retire. Inflation means my savings are going to evaporate so I'm basically at square 1 again.

>>6229161
People have been photobashing for twenty years.

>>6227935
So this is gonna be like a repeat of what happened with Facebook? Or maybe much worse because it's not only data but copyrighted material being used without consent.

>>6229191
Current generation of AI does not offer creative value other than algorithmic plagiarism. It's also more efficient at imitation than any human can dream of. Those things are hardly comparable.

>>6229109
"She" knows already, he's just trying to obfuscate.
https://twitter.com/ClaireSilver12

>>6229189
What is something memorable? My work was recognisable but I spent years making shitty AAA games. I never had the time to develop into a completely independent artist, no time to make something meaningful.

>>6229189
i worked on katawa shoujo...

>>6229199
Collecting published art is not worse than selling personal data.

>>6229206
You can be proud then, anon
Your designs and creation will forever live on. I can't believe there is still a /vg/ general about that game

>>6229208
Collecting is saving stuff on a hard drive, the copyrighted material was used to train a program. Not only that but these tech were designed to be sold. That sounds lawsuity to me.

>>6229198
The game company I was in replaced me with AI already. Making a shmup with midjourney for all the art. Time to leave japan and go find a job back home at my fathers restaurant...

>>6229203
Saved, i'm gonna start writing down a list of these people behind these projects

>>6229201
It is completely comparable. This is just a meaningless purity test, the tool has as much creative potential as the person using it, these draconian copyright definitions you're pushing are far more a threat to individual artists than ai can ever be.

>>6229208
tell that to my jewish lawyer schizo

>>6229213
can I come with you

>>6229213
Don't lie, there are no companies making shmups only solo autistic devs in their basement.

>>6229211
What do you do with your references anon? Have you never looked at a tutorial ?
You know your on a board with stickied linked pdfs of Loomis books.

>>6229213
C-

Work on your LARP. More believable if it was a SEA country.

>>6229229
Returnal is a shmup

>>6228377
>>6228485
Unfortunate the funny mustache man didn't end your lines in Auschwitz.

>>6229233
Nice strawman, we both know we're talking about a program designed with nothing but malicious intent and financial gain in mind, not a human being with an actual soul.

>>6229236
While it was a larp, It was a reaction to this Japanese developer using midjourney for all the art.
https://twitter.com/Nao_u_/status/1558595111147425792

>>6229233
We've had this argument a million times. I don't know how anyone can say this with a straight face. A human being inspired by another human is a fundamentally different thing to am algorithm eating metadata. We wouldn't we having this conversation if it was even the same thing.

>>6229237
yeah I'm sure returnal 2 is suddenly a 2d side scroller with a bunch of moving jpegs. Old school shmups are dead, there are no companies making them and any artist hired to build one was employed by a neet in their basement..

>>6229243
It's a tool anon, a free tool, that you can use too.

>>6229247
go fuck a touhoo

>>6229249
just kidding.

How long will it take for the general public to resent AI art the way they resent procedural generation? I'm already sick of it but I wonder if they have to capability to see it for what it is.

>>6229248
A tool potentially made illegally.

>>6229244
that looks terrible, everything is stiff its baby's first newgrounds game

>>6229262
It probably isn't, and all that would happen is the professional ones would ask permission to look legitimate, possibly creating the scenario where these tools are priced out of our hands while the big studios still get to use them. But do remember you're on a board with stickied Loomis pdfs and frequent pdf and tutorial sharing threads, is your style stolen? The free ones are out there in the world now, do you really think this board, with the mantra 'no rules only tools' and this site isn't going to join you in this dumb paranoia crusade in the long run. The genie is already out of the bottle. Like digital, like photobashing, it's here to stay.

>>6229289
photo bashing and concept art speed paint shit went out of fashion because it was soulless. A style is not the same as stealing copyright work and using it as an integral function of a paid service.

>>6229289
you say that but these niggas make it the 1 tool of them all when nearly all of them can't even fucking slightly tweak their image in photoshop

>>6229310
>photo bashing
>out of fashion
But since Craig started doing it in the 90s its been in fashion to this day

>>6229310
An ai shill in a couple of replies, probably:
>But it doesn't actually keep a database of images, it just eats the metadata while it's training !!!!11 That's exactly how a real artist's brain works too !!!! The result isn't 1:1 so it's not copyright infringement!!!!! You can't copyright a style!!!!
Etc etc

>>622931
>Photobashing and speed painting went out of fashion
How fucking naive are you? Next you'll be saying people don't still trace 3D mock-ups because it's 'soulless'.

>>6229055
noice

>>6229312
The first OP image was done by hand in photoshop or equivalent. But before we know it if some anons get their way you'll not be able to edit pictures of Mario in Photoshop, nevermind running it through an ai software after, infringing Nintendo's copyright you see.

>>6229315
How peoples brains work vs how ai tools work has no relevance at all with what a horrifying idea it is to try to conflate artistic influence with overt copyright violation.

>>6229145
Bullets [in Minecraft]

>>6229145
>how can we welcome are wonderful saviors?
with happy little trees

>>6229366
I'm with this fellow anon: Let's revolt against evil open source, those corporations need our help

>>6229372
It's not corporations fag, it's little independent artists work being used against them. But since we're poor and have no hope it's better to root for the big guy who can stand up to these cryptojews

>>6229221
>It is completely comparable. This is just a meaningless purity test, the tool has as much creative potential as the person using it, these draconian copyright definitions you're pushing are far more a threat to individual artists than ai can ever be.
are you the retarded pajeet himself?

>>6224666
It just can't stop drawing muhammads

>>6229379
Hate to break it to you but the big guys are the ones salivating the most over ai generation. That’s the entire Silicon Valley business model; conceptualize new thing, get venture capital for new thing, then sell new thing to larger company or get bought out by them outright.
Rinse and repeat until they’ve rendered every profession obsolete and they’re sitting on a pile of cash, enough to retire to New Zealand.

>>6229389
name 3 examples of that

>>6229389
Well I'd assume at least the stock photo sites would be pissed off since it'll destroy their business model. Although maybe they're all in bed who knows.

>>6229395
>>6229246
>>6229233
>AI isn't mashing photos together!
>pic rel is ai generated
>just jared, a celebrity focused site, pays paparazzi for celeb images and they edit their logo in the corner
>The AI, when getting a request about Emilia Clarke, includes the Just Jared logo
More like JUST lmao. I wonder which images from Just Jared were fed into this thing. But it's totally not photobashing! It's like a human being inspired! It just so happens that sometimes, company logos slip out, like Shutterstock lmao. These AI shills are gonna get fucked by copyright lawsuits

>>6229221
You have absolutely no idea how these tools work. It's actually extremly simple and boring, unlike AGI which isn't out yet.
https://youtu.be/VMj-3S1tku0
The only reason gradient descent algorithms are sometimes able to create have nice results is because they are trained on hundreds of terabytes of data. If those were working on their own without human input, even if you had trillions of them working in tandem for trillions of years, they wouldn't come up with anything creative ever. This is because their "creativity" is entirely derived from whatever target outputs and loss function is given.

>>6229221
You have absolutely no idea how these tools work. It's actually extremly simple and boring, unlike AGI which isn't out yet.
https://youtu.be/VMj-3S1tku0
The only reason gradient descent algorithms are sometimes able to have nice results is because they are trained on hundreds of terabytes of data. If those were working on their own without human input, even if you had trillions of them working in tandem for trillions of years, they wouldn't come up with anything creative ever. This is because their "creativity" is entirely derived from whatever target outputs and loss function is given.

>>6224666
>implying this is a issue for trad chads
Shouldn't have invested all your perks into digital "art"

>>6226548
doesn't look even close to Miuras art lol

>>6229863
>trad chads

>>6229867
techfags are delusional anon

The next GPT will be 3 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE LARGER. We're talking 1,000x more parameters. The ones after will just get larger and larger and more and more powerful. We haven't even hit diminishing returns. We're literally at the dawn of this technology. All this time, we assumed intelligence was some special thing that would be hard or even impossible to achieve, when in reality Sutton was right: Scale is ALL that matters. We could literally bootstrap a civilization-destroying godlike AI in the next decade just by continual bootstrapping through scale. I am personally glad all human life will end soon, as I hate existence to the core. But I feel bad for my friends on /ic/ who have dreams that didn't take AGI into account.

>>6229877
That's the fear speaking out of you, while all you digital cucks are fearing for your future I'm sitting here vibing and doing some good ol' traditional art

>>6229863
>>6229879
>>6229887

I-I kneel trad CHADS

>>6229887
nobody cares about your art, autistic fuck
who's gonna validate you? your mom?

>>6229901
Yes

>>6229908
we got a mommy boy here! what a loser

>>6229901
No dum dum, you draw the same shit as everyone else but due to the fact that what you are drawing is made by a person who used actual paint and paper immediately gives your work value especially nowadays since most artist are digital cucks

>>6229908
unfathomably based

>>6229913
>immediately gives your work value
no it does not

>>6229935
Yes it does lol (of course your shit has to look good)
It's basically how people react to singers who don't use audio tuning, they get immediately more creed

>>6229942
who's gonna see you work? if it stays in your stinky basement it has no value
you can show it to a small crowd, maybe somebody feels sorry for you and gives you tree fiddy for it, and that's it
digital artists gather millions of followers, you can't achieve that unless you become idk banksy which is like winning a lottery

>>6229952
I meant like illustrations not huge ass paintings tho, I have a pretty small insta following (4000) but my coms are around 190-250 dollars, people genuinely appreciate traditional art especially if it's a gift for someone else like their gf/bf

>>6228576
No shit? Are you impressed that a complex algorithm beat a human at....math? Lmao comparing this shit with music. One billion iterations of the same junk with no goal, because unlike Go music doesn't have a main objective

>>6228582
yes to all of them, especially the 2nd one you roach

>>6229765
So you do think I shouldn't be allowed to open just Jared images in Photoshop. Also I read English, and that doesn't say just Jared. These things aren't people, they're pattern targeters, it's accidentally been trained to think Emelia Clarke pattern includes sometimes includes a yellow squiggle in the corner.

>>6229829
It seems you don't understand what they are on a fundamental level. They have as much creative as the person using them, no different to using 3d, photobashing, references and image processors.

>>6229886
They aren't sentient robots, they're pattern recognition tools.

>>6229886
>if you hit your head on the wall hard enough, the outcome will be different!
>>6230098
(you)s from npcs are not real (you)s, therefor im not entitled to reply to this
this subject has already been discussed by other anons >>6225459

>>6229994
Good goy

>>6230136
>good guy
try living close to Russia, you demented mutt. imagine betraying your own country for another superpower

>>6225453
>You rely on brushes to do things trad artists spend hours doing by hand, stroke by stroke and line by line in just a few seconds

I'm gonna wait here until you show me this brush.

>>6225446
BASED

>>6232601
>Based
?
Based on what?

>>6225471
>dragon vs fire knight masterpiece
Sauce?