/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Beg challenge: Draw a kettle.

Remember to sight and measure.

There was already a beg and int thread! What hope can there be in the face of such madness?

>my art is the /beg/ op
I'm not sure I should be flattered, or feel I'm being mocked. Either is fine with me.

How do you accurately attach features to a sphere?

>>6216100
OP was a faggot

>>6216100
The first thread was made early, and it was made by the deranged discord schizo. He removed the collab sticky because it doesn't shill his discord, even though multiple anons have worked hard on it.

This is the thread.

How do I learn to draw straight lines freehand?

MANDATORY READING

>6216117
>The thread that was made first?
In other words, made early while still on page 1. Why the rush, idiot?

>>6216104
This.

>>6216102
Flatten it into a circle.

it's like half done I think, needs better clothing and everything, and I think I fucked up the perspective

Did the first exercise from KtD, pretty messy I know. Can I get some feedback please?

>>6216104
Keep seething you retard. Kek

>>6216135
You need to study value more. You have practically no mid values.

Holy shit I'm actually having fun with this and I'm also kinda understanding it
Wish I could turn back time and start going through this book instead of just skimming through it and never touching it again
I'm seeing so many things I was making mistakes on now or just messing up in general
I recommend anatomy for sculptors if you haven't tried it already
Suppose I can move onto female bodies when I get home from wage slaving. Seems to all be somewhat similar stuff but much slimmer and rounder than the men.
Still don't know how to draw hands though :(

>>6216147
just make sure to remember everything that book teaches you and you GMI.

>try blind contour drawing.
Holy fuck im not gonna make it

>>6216159
Blind contours are a huge pain in the ass, but it will really help you drawing from what you see. It literally allows you to feel with your eyes.

>>6216159
Try more. Learning to get good at any skill takes time, and that goes double for drawing.

how do i stop hating the things i sketch in my sketchbook?
i know it's for practice, but it's so fucking ugly it that it kind of makes me want to give up instead of improve

I tried.

>>6216178
did you really? those lines look like they were made quickly with no effort.
Try again, but for real this time, making the lines parallel to eachother

>>6216171
Just embrace it, bro
I am sure most of us feel the same way, I know I do

>>6216171
Not same anon, but kinda related:
How do you stop hating and beating yourself up over your bad drawings and start seeing them instead as a form of progress?

>>6216178
Yikes

what is wrong with my ellipses?

>>6216208
>digital
>drawabox
>large image size
ngmi

>>6216208
They aren't ellipses, for starters.
You seem to be trending toward a clockwise slant. Perhaps try practising ellipses on two perpendicular lines for a bit to help keep them level.

>>6216208
Remember, ellipses are always perfect ovals. Yours are tilted, they are meant to be transversal since you are in 1 point perspective

>>6216208

>>6216208
Just liquify it bro

>>6216208
>>6216217
ngl this is why people should not learn fundies on a drawing tablet, fr fr no cap

>>6216213
>>6216215
Thanks!

Just started today.

What am I doing wrong? What do I need to work on?

>>6216233
Read Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson and do all the exercises.

>>6216118
What is the difference between this and Norling's book?

Drew this in 2011-2012 when I was still in high school. Haven’t drawn anything since then, but recently it dawned on me how much I enjoyed drawing so I’m looking to get back into it. Going to try my hand at digital art though, I heard a drawing tablet can be useful for many things related to software.

>>6216087
Is it true that using charcoal is a bad idea when starting out? It seems so fun to draw with.

>>6216249
Go for it then Anon, what is your question?

So, I've been drawing a bunch of gestures lately.

How would you guys do this one? It was one of my favorite ones from the session I was doing, so I decided to try and take 5 minutes doing it instead of 60 seconds and I dunno, I couldn't get it right. I might post some of my other gesture drawings too and see what you guys think.

>>6216275
now those are spicy

>>6216275
This with the vilppu method?

>>6216255
It can get really messy.

>>6216255
just try it out if you want to

Why is there a samefagging war between two threads going on?

>sticky recommends a drawabox exercise to beginners
>then immediately links eceleb videos to watch
Yeah, im thinking imma use the other sticky.

>>6216345
>discord troon mad because he didn't get to make the thread first in the way he wanted it
>proceeds to spam the other thread because of his eternal seething
It's just a newfag that's gonna newfag

>>6216360
ok

>>6216360
the other sticky has drawabox too doesn't it

>>6216360
>sticky recommends a drawabox exercise to beginners
Drawabox did not invent drawing basic shapes you blithering idiot.

Worth it?

>>6216355
>>6216340
>>6216336
>>6216333
Stop doing DAB.

>>6216233
Do you really need to ask?

>>6216315
Why waste the money?

>>6216140
>4 toes
>3 toes

>>6216197
I have trouble with this too. Any tips?

>>6216434
>how do I stop my feelings and ego from getting hurt :(
Just put on the work and improve, stop crying over drawings

>>6216096
I did not remember to sight and measure

some stuff ive worked on this week. trying to actually force myself to draw

>>6216451
>digital

>>6216419
Then how will I improve?

>>6216424
How is it a waste of money? He says it seems like it'll be fun to draw with. If you're poor to the point where "risking" a couple of dollars on something that seems enjoyable is seen as an unbearable loss, you probably have a lot more pressing matters than trying to learn how to draw.

>>6216451
>not doing an Eviston course in trad
Peak retard

>>6216523
What about his Figure Drawing course?

>>6216493
Don't listen to that retard. Whenever you start out, just do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you keep drawing. Drawabox is completly fine, it's just that a lot of /ic/ people are autistic faggots.

>>6216527
Go to bed, Irshad.

>>6216526
who
>courses
lol

>>6216528
Fuck off, nigger crab. How is telling people to stop doing DAB helpful in any way. At least give him an alternative if you have to be such a massive faggot.

When it comes to drawing primarily from imagination, can you see what you're trying to draw before you put any lines down? Say if you're drawing a face, do you see the entire face at once or do you split it up and try to visualize an eye first, then other eye, then nose, etc.? I'd just like to know what different people's mental process is.

>>6216544
If you're not an NPC you should be able to render it in your mind.

>>6216537
PYW

>>6216527
>Drawabox is completly fine
Nah, it's not. You literally got memed dumbass.

>>6216549
Im anything but an npc but Ive never been able to do this and it sucks having aphantasia

>>6216487
Only retards draw on paper anymore

>>6216570
Thank you for confirming your stupidity, permabeg.

>>6216570
kill yourself

>>6216411
It's bullshit to keep you trapped and force you to buy courses. Instead of that just DRAW - RIGHT NOW - and follow the best advice ever: FEEL THE FORM. After you have done that then you can focus on specific topics.

I tried to draw a head with the underlying structure. But it still does look bad, especially the eyes. Any tips how I can improve?

>>6216570
this
poorfags pissing shittin and crying

>>6216578
perspective is about things being smaller when they're far away from observer. you reversed that concept here, lmao

>>6216582
No, it's just a case of morons like you coping.
Traditional is absolutely the best way for a beg to learn. Not my problem you're dumb enough to impede your learning through digital.

>>6216578
>ear on nape
good for hearing your enemies approach

What are good resources made by women?
I don't like male instructors because they always have the typical male focused ideals like fundamentals and technique as opposed to artistic expression.

>>6216588
>this dumbfuck thinks digital "impedes" learning
Imagine being so retarded. No rules just tools, drawing digitally isn't going to incapacitate someone because they're new.

>>6216600
digital art introduces many things harmful to a new artists. one is just more tools and information shoved at you at once making it harder to pick up.

the other big one is control. digital art always has a disconnect from your hand, even on screen tablets its not a natural feeling. this makes it much harder to get the physical feeling behind drawing. with traditional there's a direct connection between your hand and what your drawing without any digital fuckery, and that's extremely important for the basic hand eye coordination and physical technique /beg/s need to build

>>6216606
lacks movement. she looks like she froze while doing that. also no soul. pants look stiff and the design choice is horrid.
plus side is you seem to have good fundies. my favorite part is the gun tucked into her pants.
low /int/ I'd say, work on your soul, this is way too generic.

>>6216411
I mean, it's free. I stopped after lesson 1. It's ok if you're looking for some simple exercises to build confidence in drawing lines and basic forms. I use it as a warm up.

What do I need to do to get out of bed tier?

Also, why does /ic/ cause my phone to redirect spam? It's never happened on any other board.

>>6216629
You need jesus

Does what i am doing even making any sense?

>>6216634
That bitch made more money off that abortion than 99% of this board combined will off art.

>>6216577
>DRAW - RIGHT NOW - and follow the best advice ever: FEEL THE FORM

cool description of drawabox

>>6216637
What are you doing?

>>6216637
You're cargo culting it.

Read how to draw, Robertson is doing it except properly.

>>6216578

>>6216600
Again, you're coping idiot.
You're not learning properly with all those ctrl-z's, but you're too stupid to admit it.

>>6216629
You can start by not trying to draw the figure.

Go and to The Art and Science of Drawing.

What is the final redpill on Framed Perspective?

>>6216140
God this book is such a meme.

>>6216686
>again
I'm not the same anon you replied too you fucking retard. Amusing how you /beg/s think other /beg/s shouldn't touch digital, as if someone doesn't have the option to simply not press ctrl-z when practicing.
>begs can't learn properly with digital
Maybe with your level of mental retardation they (you) can't, but it takes at most a week to get hand eye coordination and the basic computer skills necessary to draw in literally any art program. Digital drawing isn't rocket science you troglodyte.

>>6216698
>as if someone doesn't have the option to simply not press ctrl-z when practicing.
Moronic permabegs like you keep saying this, but it just further highlights your stupidity and the fact that you're in denial. Of course you use ctrl-Z, it's pretty much impossible not to in digital software out of sheer habit.

Stop spreading your garbage permabeg advice. You're worthless trash, you have zero good advice to give.

>>6216688
Lol, no. That's some worthless advice.

>>6216700
>I'm in denial
Fucking kek. You're going to need a bigger room to fit that projector slugger.

>>6216702
t. permabeg

>>6216704
Yes, you are very clearly in denial, worthless little idiot.

tear me a new one

im just going to move on to gesture drawing, faces are hard and my apprehension of loomis is piss poor

also, im aware i chicken scratch way too often. how do i practice getting away from this? is drawabox my only option?

>>6216705
Hardly, I'm getting better every day and I've only been at this a few weeks. Fuck your book, fuck your advice, and fuck your limp dick low ego that needs to use autistic jargon to cover up his inadequacy
and anxiety over poverty and failure.

>>6216713
>Hardly, I'm getting better every day
Ah I think I know exactly who you are now. That would explain your stupidity.

>>6216712
You're fine. Move on to gesture anyway. Maybe do exercise or meditation. That always clears me up when I'm down on myself.

Portraits have been a real challenge for me. I'm gonna check out the three hour video in here for drawing heads/faces and see what I can learn from it.

>>6216718
Lol, no you don't. I'm not your imagined rival. I'm someone you've literally never talked to before agreeing with the last person who called you out on your loser shit.
I'm going to go do cardio now. Enjoy empty unfulfilling rageposting, you low test skinnyfat freak.

>>6216724
>rival
Where did this come from, idiot? Is this another one of your weirdo misconceptions? Nobody is going to see permabeg garbage like yourself as a "rival".

Is it just me or is the artwork of Drawabox's owner completely flat? Like I feel no form from it, it's barely 3D beginning from the pose?
Why do people shill Drawabox unironically?

>>6216708
Keep projecting you permabeg retard.

>>6216724
>>6216727

>>6216730
DaB tells you to draw hundreds of boxes (between the lessons and the challenges likely upwards of 400 boxes) without ever holding or looking at a real box.

This is absolutely pants-on-head retarded and is directly at odds with its objective of linking your intuitive sense of 3d with your drawing. It has a real impact on the students too, because they think of boxes as a set of dots which adhere geometrical geometrical relationships and have no idea what natural perspective/distortion/forshortening etc actually looks like.

DaBs first and only foray into observational drawing is in lesson 2 where it asks students to accurately copy the shadows from a crumpled sheet of paper IN PEN AND INK. That is the literal dumbest fucking thing to I have ever seen.

The lack of observational techniques could be forgiven if DaB was a second or third resource, but it markets itself (and sells services) to absolute beginners and if you peruse the discord it clearly does not work.

>>6216140

Why do you wear flip-flops. How much money is it to just wear socks or have basic bitch canvas shoes

>>6216740
I fucking hate how KtD forces you to wear shoes indoors. We don't do that here.

>>6216684
How can I tell you studied Manga Materials brought to you by our friendly neighborhood T___O?

Anon who wrote most of the collab sticky here. Why not just include both stickies? I learned a lot from the old google docs one and it has a lot more info on other stuff like art supplies and stuff. It helps to have multiple perspectives, and the stuff I wrote is all "first draft" shit, it needs to be edited and it might actually not be that useful to beginners. Anyways, it was all just an exercise in shitting out what I knew and have been thinking about for the past 5 years; i expected it all to probably disappear after a while. Plus, none of you know how good of an artist I am and I could just be some dunning kruger fool.

a few questions. Im a beginner yes, but do i need the fancy shading pencils the art people have, or can i do stuff with my Mitsubishi pencils I bought for whatever reason. I understand shading I know i need to have a pencil not sharpened but dull, but some people say ohh you should buy this and that. But do i really need that?

I also have erasers so theres no issue with that either.

>>6216745
>Manga Materials
I didn't
first i hear about it actually

>>6216770
7/10
would lewd

I think i might kneel again, art is just too hard. I suck at line curvatures and the correct shading. Digital is shit im not gonna go to that.

>>6216779
>Digital is shit im not gonna go to that.
ngmi

>>6216783
pencil and paper is supreme. Even if i suck at it, along with all the paints too.

>>6216775
Thanks

>>6216787
Adding a tail would make her 8/10
:)

>>6216789
kill yourself

>>6216789
I'll think about it

>>6216785
I know paper is supreme, but you should try digital too, one complements the other. Don't miss the opportunity to learn something new.

>>6216791

>>6216795
Only problem with digital is im poor and dont have a drawing tablet. I always loved ms paint art and its styling.

>>6216805
Picasso is that you?

Hello begs, today i was mega unproductive. The procrastination is my biggest enemy. Also LMAO at THREE beg threads in the catalog

>>6216779
You forgot to PYW anon
>>6216752
>fancy shading pencils art people have
I am not sure what you tried to ask, but general advice for tradfags is to have at least two pencils: 1 hard (H) and 1 soft (B). Bonus points for some marker / sharpie, sharper, eraser and knife. And billion papers sheets (buy 100 pack for printers)
>>6216730
Its not appealing to me, but it definitely isnt flat
>>6216599
Drawing on right side of the brain
Drawing For The Absolute And Utter Beginner
These two books were mentioned in places like stickies and are done by women, cant tell you if they are or arent good though, atm i am on start of right brain side and its very wordy and not very drawing related
>>6216147
wat book
>>6216140
Very good, if you will keep up this effort and quality you gonna make it
>>6216122
INT

>>6216812
good stuff as usual mr pawell, can i ask why you're not using traditional, for these books at least?

Struggling a lot with perspective. Read what Loomis wrote in Fun with a Pencil, didn't get it, so I worked my way through Perspective Made Easy. Feeling a little better, but still pretty uncomfortable. Here's a room I made up from one angle...

>>6216812
Can i make good art with just ms paint?

>>6216826
...and the same room from a different angle. Downloading Joseph D'Amelio's Perspective Drawing Handbook right now since I've heard good things about it. As I prepare for another long grind, does anyone have any advice concerning perspective?

>>6216537
pyw anon, you wont.

>>6216727
>Permabeg
Don't use this word again without posting your original work, you broke, pathetic, lonely, loser.

>>6216801
You could try using vectors in illustrator or paths in photoshop to make some art. But I guess a drawing tablet is a must this days, save some money little by little and buy a used one if that's what you can afford.

If that's not an option but you do have a smartphone, you could always build one of this bad boys instead.

You will need 4 things
1) An empty pen
2) Some metal wire
3) A cotton swab
4) A bit of water

Just like in my picture you can see I cut the head of the cotton swab and put it in the empty pen. Then wrap the metal wire along the pen making it touch the soft part of the cotton swab (Very important).

Now all you need is just a little drop or 2 of water in the cotton swab to start drawing on your smartphone. (The more water the swab absorbs the longer it will work, but don't over exaggerate)

I recommend you to use Medibang on Android, it's free but with enough options to get you started. Try it, it's like in the old days of ink writting, when the cotton swab dries up you just wet it again to continue.

>>6216844
wtf anon, that's really cool (if you're not bullshitting)

>>6216844
Don't do this.
I just tried it and it exploded into mustard gas.

>>6216844
Poors are hilarious

flames

>>6216847
Build one just like mine and try it haha
It's some MacGyver shit you won't believe until you make one yourself. You can find tutorials on youtube but most of them are complicated, the one I just showed you it's the one that worked for me.

>>6216853
Life... finds a way..

>>6216817
I dont really see difference between trad or digital for simple black/white pencil creations. You do exactly same stuff with just few minor differences like digital having easier time fixing errors and trad offering superior feedback. I was always computer "nerd" so digital painting allures me more than trad.

Sure there are digital traps like overusing undo, nonstop adjusting zoom/canvas angle or using fuzzy brushes to mask your shitty lines but trad has these as well: eraser, moving paper around and charcoal.

Now if you argued colors or texture now here the differences are massive and i am not sure which is better. But digital sure should be easier and cheaper in the long run i guess.

>>6216827
Why asking me? If its a jab at GIMP then its not really accurate, gimp has everything your fancy apps have as well, you can even load it up with brushes stolen from photoshop. Anyway pic related. It has fuzzy brushes and it even pick up pen pressure for few of them, but it doesnt really have opacity and "eraser" is just brush with background color so my answer is: NO it cant produce everything.

>>6216801
mine drawing tabled costed 40$, xp-pen 960 something. It just works despite what apple and wacom shills on /ic say.

>>6216844
Thats very innovative solution anon, i like it. My only question is from what material did you make the tip? It needs to be soft while providing small resistance to let current through

>>6216863
>from what material did you make the tip? It needs to be soft while providing small resistance to let current through
A simple cotton swab / Qtip
It's so simple it seems like bullshit until you try it

trad is fun

>>6216869
What pencil are you using for the black bits

>>6216812
>Its not appealing to me, but it definitely isnt flat
I think it's flat, as in he's not experimenting with foreshortening and other unique 3D poses. It's just a flat pose that even an elementary schooler can come up with. It's not showing off his attained form skills from his expertise in perspective. None of his poses do.
What makes you think it isn't flat btw?

>>6216916
blue is faber-castell tk-color lead
thin black is 005 pigma micron
mid blac is micron pn and thic is some jap brush

It has taken me exactly three portraits, after discovering "measuring", to surpass the before and afters from Drawing with the Right Side of the Brain. I think this is great progress considering they take around a week with mentoring.
I am happy with what I've done and think I need to improve shading, but my overall proportions are right and I need to understand charcoal because it's way too dark.
Can someone who has experience doing trad portraits give me some tips/advice?

>>6216929
Woops, wrong one. Also these portraits take approximately 1 hour, while normally people spend ten hours per portrait (inefficient imo).

>>6216926
You should try a 003 ligma micron.

>>6216855
9/10
would summon

>>6216855
I'm really loving the marker work, please keep it up.

accuracy bros how I do?

>>6216966
ur good, now suck...

shading attempt

so i dont know if im a mega retard or actually had a good idea but- i decided to trace a drawing i kind of liked and then replicate my traced drawing as a drawing exercise.

>>6217008
why didn't you just replicate the artwork instead of your tracing...

>>6217015
good question, i dont know

>>6217008
How did you mess up the tracing? Did you actually trace, like put the paper over the screen?

>>6217019
partly, there was a few times i had to get up though. i did do that a majority of the time though

>>6217008
>>6217015
>>6217018
that's an /ic/ moment right there bruh

unsure if her shoulders look okay perspective wise, might also raise her vajayjay

>>6216966
You need k2d.

>>6217034
no.

Anyone know a resource similar to line of action but for head references? Preferably cute fuccboi heads. Not because I'm gay, but because they have nice sharp features that make it easy to see the anatomy under the skin and also because I'm gay.

I know sites like line of action also have heads/faces but its all "expressions" where the models are doing goofy shit with their faces and I'm trying to nail down some regular ass neutral expressions.

>>6217062
ew

>>6216934
>>6216929
Looks symbol drawn to me desu

>>6217108
Hello, Mr. Crab.

>>6216966
Why are you practicing accuracy on an anime drawing?

>>6216960
sure

>>6217118
What brand of markers are you using?

>>6217151
copic sketch, ohuhu and promarkers

>>6216684
Thank you so much anon!

>>6216828
You're drawing outside the cone of vision, which makes the fridge and the tv a bit distorted. You can either try moving the vanishing points further apart or make the drawing smaller but keep the same vanishing points.

>>6217245
The fuck does that mean?

>>6217260

Better than my lion attempt at least,still no idea how to take it further

>>6216826
You should watch Erik Olson's course bro, he'll help you out a lot
Loomis and perspective made easy don't go into enough detail to answer doubts or truly how perspective works and why it works

>>6217273
D D D D D Dj Wolf

2 months drawing. Got tired of drawing figures and boxes. Haven’t really touched on proportions or anatomy so this is all feeling.

>>6217285
sorry

>>6216096
I confess, I never do measuring

>>6217324
Which is why your proportions are slightly off.

>>6216249
You had clear fundamentals. You can expect rapid improvement as you get used to digital drawing. Just don't fall into the same /beg/ traps that everyone else here falls for.

Tried drawing a spider today

>>6217488
the top of the thorax looks a bit flat.

>>6217513
yeah trying to replicate a water drop is hard. Thing I was looking at was this spider with a water drop on its head https://twitter.com/jump_spi_chan/status/1559091719052095488?t=8-qnUkhaWBqsjqIpJfIRCA&s=19

>>6216857
3d texas

What is this guy doing wrong?

>>6216135
You are still working at this or you are a troll? This picture is from 2019.

>>6217560
Are you even trying?

>>6217550
>>6217560
Do constructoids really

>neither of those are construction
Nice self filter

>>6216770
Nice. Want to hug her.
>>6216775
Why lewd?
>>6216789
Agree, tail >>> nose. Just draw tail instead of nose next time.

>>6217118
I did one marker drawing so far. I would like to do more, so I may buy a set from Ohuhu. Do you ever use the chisel tip, or should I just get the brush with fine tip?

>>6216087

>>6216087
Is 12 hours of practice a day enough or should I put in more time?

>>6217777
Feng said once while you practice 12 hours a day and go to sleep other will practixe for 14 hours a day
In one year its 750 hours a year

>>6217560
Maybe you should apply perspective first you idiot

>>6217781
fuck you

>>6217777
if you arent drawing for 20hours a day youre ngmi

>>6217851
based on what?

>>6217560
It seems to me that you're rushing through it and not taking the time to place your lines. I like the lesson 1 exercises for warming up, but some are a bit monotonous and I zone out and just go through the motions.

Did you plan out where you were going to place your lines? Did you ghost the lines a few times before making the mark? It looks like some of your lines are little jaggy. All of your edges should be smooth, confident strokes. The motion line should pass through the center of the boxes.

It's not terrible, and I think you should try it again and take your time.

Keep trying, anon. Don't let the shit posting stop you.

worth it?

>>6216096
How do you sight and measure

>>6217845
stop being a nigger or yngmi

>>6217560
Start the lessons again, those cubes are improperly constructed

>>6217924
Read this: >>6217895

Learn sighting, angle sighting, triangulation and more.

>>6216602
>natural
We started dragging rocks on cave walls only a few thousand years ago, pens on papers for a hundred.

Unless you are spamming Ctrl z I don't see how digital is bad for learning.

>>6217990
Everyone who draws digital is using ctrl-Z. There's no need to try and convince people you have restraint; you don't.

Digital promotes a lackadaisical approach to drawing where you don't think much before placing a mark because there are no real consequences on a digital canvas. If you want to learn things like perspective, gesture and sighting properly, you should be learning on paper.

>>6216087

>There's no need to try and convince people you have restraint; you don't.

>>6218030
Fuck off

how do you draw tilted cubes consistently?

hey guys I need some advices; I'm a bit tired of improvisation, I want to learn how to draw without any like with construction lines like comics or manga. Any book that is not a loomis one you can recommend ?

>>6218002
if you cant draw digital you cant draw on paper
if you cant learn on digital you cant learn on paper
same shitty mistakes done in digital are also done on paper
this muh paper talk or muh digital talk is the same shitty circlejerk you people always find time to do instead of drawing

pyw i want to see it

>>6218050
You are missing the point you blithering idiot.

>>6218048
everything you find i loomis you find in any other book, congrats i falling for the crab meme

anyways
Brigman, hampton, steve houston and vilppu, also morpho books
pick one or more

Can i make it?

>>6216998
Looks good anon. She looks like she’s in a low light. But if you were looking for it to pop more you should look at stronger lighting.

What am I doing wrong?

>>6218060

>>6218060
Buildings look samey. But YWMI.

>>6216087
who ordered a hamburger

sketching poses

not sure which /beg/ thread to post in, so I'm gonna repost here

>>6218117
reference

>>6217970
yes but stone in hand is much closer to stone inside wood in your hand than it is to digital which transfers the general coordinates to a separate digital screen

>>6218117
Make sure you read Drawing on the right side of the brain.

>>6218152
I've heard conflicting things about that book

>>6218117
Why did you give her a Hitler moustache?

>>6218160
It's fine. Nothing stopping you from at least giving it a shot.

>>6218160
you will literally hear conflicting things about EVERY art-learning resource. Until you try it yourself you shouldn't care what others (especially on /ic/) say about any source and anyone who says differently is a permabeg crab who doesn't understand that people learn, and respond, to learning resources differently
if you're worried about "wasting your time" don't, firstly, you lack the ability to draw in the first place so even if you don't level up through x,y,z resource then in the end you haven't lost anything, set aside your ego and realize that your time isn't that valuable anon. the catch-22 of learning to draw is that you won't know the optimal path you should've taken till AFTER you have already learned how to draw. such is life, no point obsessing over where to start.
>tl;dr close your eyes, pick a random beginner's resource and just start with that. if it doesn't work for you, rinse and repeat till you find one that fits your learning style.

>>6218165
thought it'd be cute ;)
>>6218167
>>6218177
fair enough. thanks for the advice.

>>6218072
I like the head. very nice.
if the behind sun? thing is the light source the dragon should be a lot darker cuz it's in silhouette.

Does Fun With a Pencil get fun after those dumb cartoonish faces
I'm almost done with them but they're so unappealing that i can't force myself to do more than 1 a day and revert to drawing boxes and other 3D shapes

>>6218233
Ah thanks. It’s for a shirt design hoping it still stands out. But did your correction and it looks better.

>>6218256
You literally fell for the beg trap.

>>6218336
show me your work

Today’s sketch, trying to do some ridiculously intense colors

>>6218351
push your saturation and values a lot more.

>>6218256
If you don't find fun with a pencil fun you probably shouldn't be drawing

>>6218365
Is that so?
Okay shit. I'll try anyway, i found drawing trannime enjoyable

>>6218256
You should read Have Fun with Anime Girls instead

>>6218378
soulless

>>6218378
I actually searched for it

>>6218387
cute

>>6218387
goes to show permabegs easily fall for bait.

>>6218398
It's really late for me, please understand

Depict it in 4d please:

The Sun

Constantly interacting with

The Gravity Field

Constantly interacting with

The Planets

To make them travel around

The Sun

Depict this in 4d please

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######vvvvvvv#####vvvvv######`•~°`•~°`
####vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv))))))•°`•~°`•`°
####{{}}}}}vvvvvvv)))))))(venus)°•~°``°~•`
##{{(Sun)}}}}}}}}vvvvvvvvv)))))))°~•`•`°•~^`•~
####{{{}}}}}(mercury)))))))))))•~`•~°`•~^`•~`°`•`
####^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)))vvvvvvvvvvvvvv
#########))))))))))))))))))))))(earth)`°~•`°~
##########))))))))))))))))))))))))))))°~•`^~•``~
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^`°~•`°``
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^°°°°°°^^^^^^^^°^^°°°°°°~°•`^~•`
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Coloring practice using RJ Palmer’s linework. Looks way better than my work. But it must be the scales and wide depth of color variations.

>>6218482
did trex have feathers

>>6218485
yes t-rex ad plenty of other dino's had feathers but people still depicting them as scaly reptiles

Hey what's that one figure drawing video course by the guy whose name starts with a B I think? He had one other course that people liked and then one that supposedly taught you to be creative which everyone stayed away from

>>6218551
brent

Hello BEG, todays chapter made me realize that the school system failed me twice:
1) why did none of the sport teachers told me how to count calories so i could stop being obese before i discovered 4chan /fit board?
2) why didnt art teachers teach me how to not symbol draw? Like what was even point of the classes?
What is your opinion on art classes? The book claims kids stop drawing around age 10 because thats when they start developing strong spatial awareness and their doodles no longer appeal to them so they on average give up. Why are art teachers useless? Is it by design to keep normies uncreative soulless NPCs?

>>6218482
I like the textures, you mog me
>>6218393
>trad
>pro
I kneel, are people willing to buy these in 2022?
>>6218256
Sounds like you fell for the beg trap. Curiously none of the stickies even recommend that book, they recommend different loomis books
>>6218160
I am like 30% done with it, its extremely wordy book and it seems its only about curing symbol drawing but i bet people who are incapable of filling in the blanks will appreciate the very tight instructions for the exercises and then essays explaining what the training did and how
>>6218117
thumbs up. i recommend to pick some book or course from sticky and follow it IF you ran out of ideas what to do or where to improve
>>6218102
SOUL
>>6218060
100% making it
>>6218046
draw 9999 differently tilted boxes from reference, kinda like this dude is practicing ellipses / circles >>6217915
>>6217273
I cant really paint but even my limited tries at it taught me you need to switch between hard smaller brush for edges and broad fuzzy brush(es) for everything else. Your animal is fuzzy everywhere which isnt accurate depiction. Pick brush with solid texture, make it thin and make "outline" on places where are HARD edges to boos up the painting.

>>6218557
Tyvm

>>6218485
No. None were found. We have skin impressions from most of its body. All scaly. No feathers. But that not a trex it’s a raptor. And the commissioner doesn’t want feathered.
>>6218559
Art teachers don’t teach art, they babysit.

>>6218559
>1) why did none of the sport teachers told me how to count calories so i could stop being obese before i discovered 4chan /fit board?
Did they also move your jaw for you when you were overeating?
>2) why didnt art teachers teach me how to not symbol draw? Like what was even point of the classes?
Good artistic sensibilities can only be cultivated and not taught. The point of art classes is to expose students to tools and materials that may have gone through their entire lives without experiencing due to the low value placed on art by society. It's ultimately incumbent upon you.
>The book claims kids stop drawing around age 10 because thats when they start developing strong spatial awareness and their doodles no longer appeal to them so they on average give up.
The fallacy that all "how to draw" books are sold upon is that anyone can learn to draw. Not everyone is destined to be an artist. Most children simply find other hobbies or discover new talents.

>>6218615
giga midwit post

>>6218559
my health teacher told me to read nutrition labels

I'M LOOMING

Any thoughts so far?
>inb4 ur a nigger

>>6218671

>>6218672

I started drawing again yesterday evening, filled a few pages with circles, ellipses, and lines. I forget where I got this idea but supposedly it makes you better at drawing circles and lines.
I seem to have kept most of my ability from a few years ago. Today I go back to Loomis, hopefully my ability is still at the same level it was.

Do you find yourself losing much ability if you take a break for a long time? (A year or or more)

>>6217550
unfuck your markmaking
>>6217560
stop drawing beg boxes

>>6218671
>>6218672
>>6218675
actually pretty dope, would read if it was a pulpy hyperviolent african prince valiant sort of deal

bon

>>6218704
yes but you get it back quick if you draw daily since a lot of it is just knowledge you dont really forget or can easily refresh on or pure muscle memory which comes back easily

>>6218671
>>6218672
>>6218675
Why are your drawings so ugly?

>>6218766
You cant even point out whats ugly about them

>>6218671
>>6218672
>>6218675
You're a nigger.
Wonky ass lines like you've drawn them in paint with a mouse.
Looks cool overall, but needs figure drawing lessons especially the woman.

>>6216087
sup retard here
about krita
what's the difference between 600and 300dpi ? is it super visible on finished piece ?
also i keep running out of paper space when i practice so i decided to just zoom and make smaller scribbles is there a way to select part of that scribble and scale it ? i mean it's vector art no ? it should be scalable without a loss in quality
thanks for patience

>>6218835
gimp retard here
>dpi
dpi stands for DOTS PER INCH, its irrelevant value for digital artists until you plan PRINTING your art ON PAPER. the only relevant shit for you is RESOLUTION. find out resolution of your monitor, multiply it by at least two (or more if you want) and use that as resolution for yout canvas. draw mostly zoomed out (like 25%~66%) and when you encounter complex areas (like hands or face), zoom in (100% max, never go past that zoom because then it starts to produce blury shit)
>keep running out of paper
pick one of these or combo:
increase your canvas size resolution
make new file and draw there
make current layer smaller (layer>scale) to make space and then simply create new layer to continue drawing on
>vector art
it isnt vector art, krita is for painting raster images. if you want to work with vector art, there are completely different apps just for that. pic related

>>6218671
WE

>>6218672
WUZ

>>6218675
KANGZ

>>6218835
>i keep running out of paper space when i practice
Try mypaint, it has an infinite canvas.
>it should be scalable without a loss in quality
It's not but it's not like you should care about saving literally every single thing you do in perfect archival quality either.

>>6218378
Have sex with anime girl?

>>6218046
By learning rules of perspective

>>6218968
1 not gonna print it thanks
2 i'll try experimenting by adding stuff to that picture by drawing on other pictures and gluing it together thanks
3 ye i am fiddling with inkscape rn thanks for the list
>>6219009
1 will try it thx
2 true but that scalability was just a side question
thank you anons

idk

New thread:

>>6220232
>>6220232
>>6220232

>>6220232
>>6220232
>>6220232

>>6216637
>Does what i am doing even making any sense?
if it works it's not stupid anon
it may or not be more time consuming but idn i will try this tho

>>6216087
raster or vector ? what are you guys using when you draw your general stuff ?

>>6218559
school system teaches you to be dependent on the system
simple as