/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6211859
Sounds great to me, artists are mostly liberals and those are leading the destruction of the west

>>6211859
>Why isnt anyone talking about this as much as i expected? in /ic/ out of all forums/blogs?
Its literally being spammed 24/7 on this board.

>>6211861

>>6211861
you dumb gorilla hyper nigger, ART AS A MEDIUM IS GONE FOR, RIGHT OR LEFT, CLASSICAL OR STALINIST

>>6211859
I have gotten myself into hyper doomer autisms i have never experienced before. i was practicing everyday, now im just hopeless,,,

>>6211859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

>>6211872
>>6211867
I apologize, I struggle with self control and love baiting for the lolz

Art has been dead for decades, it's all a rehash of what was already made, specially in music.

>>6211895
AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6211933
SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT, ART HAS BEEN ALIVE FOR CENTURIES SINCE GUESS WHAT? HUMANS COMPETE. ART SUSTAINS. SIMPLE ECONOMICS OF ANY SOCIAL OR ARTISTIC DESIRE. A.I NEGATES COMPETITION. YOU ARE A FAGGOT

>>6211935
DEEP/ LEARNING

>>6211859
We should organize an attack, I've thought about this for the past few months, this is an insult to humanity. I can't think of a more human and higher metaphysical activity than creative work, if we give this capability to a machine isn't that a crime against our species? The developers and programmers behind this are clearly frustrated creatives, thinking of the wonders without thinking of the consequences. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not gonna feed the Algorithm anymore, I'm done using it. If you really think about it it's so fucking wrong.

>>6211953
Guys, especially those in 3rd world or developing countries who are with me, create as many discord accts as possible we will create cp with midjourney and stability AI then email it to government authorities in USA. We can also generate slander for different countries and send it to their respective authorities.

>>6211941
I don't think any of London's knitter workers could compete with knitting machines once they were released

>>6211962
Someone posted this pic earlier. I think it was stable diffusion? Lmao then CP+deepfake angle could unironically work to cripple the big AIs putting them uiner the covernment and boomer watch. Their filters can be bypassed since they were trained on tons of porn and innuendos

>>6211962
It's open source now. There is not stopping it. Stable Diffusion can run on a GPU with 5gb Vram.(I thought it was 10, but they recently got it down to 5) All you need is to download the dataset, which is about 2gb. The mind of the AI, holding all it learned from 5 billion images(250 terabytes) it saw is only 2 gigabytes! that blew my mind a little.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2QtKcK2dA

>>6211974
There needs to be A LOT of it though, and SIMULTANEOUSLY. We can't stop it but it will buy us some time at least to get our foot in the industry, or to improve or to adapt.

>>6211965
you IGNORAMUS. knitting machines, LIKE PHOTOGRAPHY, isnt replacing EVERY ARTIST. diy knitting artists on ETSY are still in demand.

>>6211859
Alright bro start learning eastern Orthodox iconography since they haven't even adopted simple perspective yet.

>>6211962
idk if this is a glowie, but almost all programs are tightly knitted. didnt Dall E fucking filter "racism" and "bigoted ideaologies"? imagine fucking CP ... This is a highly risky idea, with life in prison being wagered against you.

This is Emad Mostaque, the ugly wanker behind Stability AI, keep his ugly mug in your thoughts once the normies start using AI for their art instead of commissioning you.

>>6211989
>highly risky idea, with life in prison
not if you're in a 3rd world shithole, nobody gives a shit their governments have bigger problems

Turns out the world wide web was a rigged game for creators. Imagine a big bank that had all of its data leaked by a breach oversight, and all the wallet credentials were listed on various hacker sites for people to play with. That's basically the state of the art world right now.

>>6211989
If the AI generates a pornographic prompt on accident because a word might or might not have sexual connotations, that's not your fault, it's the AI

>>6211991
this fucker doesn't even think of the artists what the actual fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2QtKcK2dA&t=15s

>>6212005
exactly, we can make it spit cp by using style and artists who draw childr*n and nu**s.

>>6212006
"Democratizing creativity"
blearggggghhh!!!!

>>6211991
For all the degradation of Humanities they've done, pajeets are a mix of africans and jews on steroids

>>6212015
It was set up to be their stark buzzword in order to bring NPCs support to their side once shit sparks out

>>6211953
>>6211962
>>6211974
OP here:
Im afraid that there is no hope. As with all social/political thought, especially left leaning ones, people WILL suckle, chew and gobble up the newest of mass consumption media. Think iPhone during 2007, or the latest tech superceding older tech. this isnt inherently bad, good tech helps society. whats bad is how tech meddles within areas where its not needed/where its detrimental. Once an idea or an invention is set in motion, THERE IS NO STOPPING IT. this has been proved throughout history. Now, what we CAN do, is figure out ways in which where we can use whatever we experience to our advantage. Ive seen people make some interestion scenarios:
> art is mass produced
> manmade art becomes rare
> value goes up

only nuance to that is no one will care. A.I art will still be good to THEIR standard
corps and laymen only care about the end result, not the expertise, not the process (at modernity's fault)

another scenario can be:
> art as a human creative process will still be highly sought after
> art methods will become a rare skill w value just for its existence

or another scenario (funnily enough)
> a blackout/emp attack will cripple society for a brief moment
> no internet = end of the then creative world.

but i do understand the cp/controversial point of attack. Good art by artists is magnified, true, but bad art/illegal art by artists is also exponentially magnified. this is an exponential increase of both parts by their extremes..

>>6211953
>>6212020
"How's your art career dreams anons?"

The mistake you guys made was ever respecting digital as a form of "art".
It is and always was a purely utilitarian and computer aided form of commercial design.

If you want to make art for the love of it do traditional. If you want to make money doing something that slightly resembles art, then embrace a.i. now before bored housewives that know how to socialise and network start taking your jobs like they already did with graphic design.

>>6212036
"I'm something of a neuro-divergent myself"

>>6212039
What's digital art? You mean doing art on a computer? How does that work? isn't that kind of cheating?
>No, no, no not at all, it's not like there is some big "Make Art" button that spits out images.
>It's very much like traditional, only no mess! hahaha

>>6212030
Problem is, there will be no way to tell if "100% human made art" is legit, even a video of someone doing art might be easily faked by these AIs in a few years lol. Imagine the amount of tiktokers who will feed AIs by replacing a gif of spiderman in motion with their bodies. No new manual artist will have credibility, only the existing ones whose work was made in a time where Dall-E 3 didn't exist

>>6212039
you are an idiot. you can etch your mom on my ballsack, that's art. the issue is whether thats expressed by a human or an A.I. thats all it is. Digital art IS art. its literally just a tool. same as paper, parchment, wood or skin.

>>6211989
I'm Bulgarian nigger, our underfunded and understaffed cybercrime whatever isnt going to knock down my door cause I generated a bunch of funny pictures of Hitler fucking lolis, but it sure is going to contribute to neutering this shit sooner.

>>6212039
>The mistake you guys made was ever respecting digital as a form of "art"
at least we're actually still painting, and it takes hours, AI is entirely different.

>>6212039
What do you mean by traditional art? The physical form? Lololol wait until they add the replicate image function to robot hands that already exist. They will pick up brushes. We are all fucked together

>>6212050
>neuralink is becoming real
>deepfake are becoming real
>A.I is running the creative realm

...

>>6212039
https://realisticpaint.com/index.html

your entire statement is redundant, invalid and you should question your artistic philosophies

no artist on youtube talks about it because it will scare their audience away. They know if things continue down this path that they are fucked but out of personal gain they try to keep their audience blind to it
https://www.change.org/p/regulate-ai-image-generators

>>6211859
pt1
architect here.
If you think its just 2d art is under threat youre kidding yourself.
as an architect i dabble in alot of Photoshop stuff to touch of images but im pretty tech based.
I started going down the Ai image rabid hole and i have good news and bad news

the good news is if you want something extremely specific ai wont be able to handle it. Let say you want to do an illustration of boy playing football with his dog on the streets of paris and his dog happens to be corgi that wears a polkadot scarf.
AI currently is going to have a hard time doing this.
worse if a client says,hey can you change the scarf on the corgi from polkadot to orange.
in the AI mind it will have to generate everything from scratch.

I see AI being used as a tool and i see some companies like adobe going heavy into the ai art manipulation route.
another example you generate picture of girl but you need her to smile. I did this at a test, i used midjourney to generate the girl and imported that girl into the face app to make her smile and appear younger. This is where ai will do as a tool for artist,artist work will become vastly more streamlined.

will show example
(image is 100% app created and edited)

>>6211859
>another fucking AI thread
mods do your fucking jobs

>>6212084
>A.I WILL reach 90% of the artistic world, from music to illustrative works
pretty sure this encompasses architectural design

>>6212086
STFU NIGGER THE WORLD IS AT STAKE. HOP OFF IC. IM SICK AND TIRED OF JANNIES/PEOPLE BURYING THREADS LIKE THIS

>>6212086
no, don't, this time we are actually taking steps to solve this problem. I'm going to a different area, different city with different IP and will post a separate thread, we have to unite for this.

>>6212083
Bro it shouldn't be only AI art. Music, literature, and even games are being affected by these datamining centers too. If we are going for a petition then we should do one encircling all these mediums so it has 100x more impact with all kinds of artists signing up

>>6212084
You are not up do date on things. Dalle-2(the worst at art,but popular) has "in-painting". you just erase what you don't like, and ask it do redo it with a new prompt. It fills in the blank space and leaves the rest untouched.

Traditional and Digital artists for the love of god let us Unite for once.

So far the only use I've found for A.I. art is the same context I would use google images for.

It's really fucking bad at specificity and even though it has a variation button, it is really bad at GOOD variations even using the crytic syntax that 99% of plebs don't use.

You spend so much time trying to generate what you want that you break down your expectations and just go "this is good enough I guess" and pick something that was barely related to your prompt.

If you wouldn't use google images, stock photos or asset libraries then you won't find a.i. useful.

>>6212100
>"this is good enough I guess"
this is the very mentality people will follow. Mayb have the idea "you dont create whats in your heart, but what a machine feeds you?" as some sort of slogan

>>6212086
>mods do your fucking jobs
jannies too busy enabling fujo tranny shitposts and deleting shit from people that actually draw based on their own stupid opinions

>>6212084
pt2,
as i said im an architect
AI is going to totally fuck architecture.

architecture is actually not as creative as say regular art. It just alot of lines and rules. And, because of those rules you know generally how a room is supposed to be layout within a given space.

toilet goes here, oven goes there etc etc.
ive seen programs where you can create floorplan via AI and it will layout everything and not only that because its rules based. The next steps are that it will also do the necessary structural calculations,apply local code rules and construction details ie what type of foundation to use and cross sectional drawings how that foundation is supposed to be made.

however this means that smaller and mid sized architects will consolidate and shutter and architectural designs will get more exotic as we are able to push the boundaries.
The smaller architects will be pushed into more site based project management functions

>>6212100
It's biggest limitation as of now is the impossibility of converging many words together, because it notion pattern is limited to that of a chatbot, but this also raises a flag to what the devs are going to focus in their next big updates

>>6212095
sorta but not really, what im saying is slight modification will be require a human tough,
"can you have the boy that was sitting down, tough his glasses".
the ai may redraw and entirely different boy all together.

>>6212105
THE HUMAN HAS THE WILL TO CREATE, THE MACHINE SOLELY EXECUTES A MASHUP OF WHAT IT WANTS, NOT WHAT YOU WANT. CLOSE RELATIVITY ISNT WITHIN YOUR ACTUAL BEST INTEREST

>>6212110
Architects will be one of the last to get replaced though. Until AI is trusted enough to be allowed to do even medical operations, I doubt governments will allow these image generators to be in charge of bridge construction in this decade. After all no one will pay to see if there's an accident due to a minor limitation of the current model.

Imagine being so retarded that you think an artist's only worth is churning out freelance work. Like yeah lemme get an AI to design this vector logo. Let me get this AI to teach schoolchildren how to paint. You're ngmi from the beginning if you beleive creating art is nothing but producing a picture for someone else. Now GO DRAW or you're getting GLOCKED nigga

>>6212138
>If you beleive creating art is nothing but producing a picture for someone else.

please enlighten my /beg/ brain, oh good one

>>6212100
This has been true for me too. (used midjourney/dalle2/SD made over 2000+ prompts)
I enjoy seeing what it spits out in each new AI for a short time, then I get tired of running into that wall when I want to create something specific.
There's also the 77 token limit, I guess it will expand at some point, but atm it's a huge hindrance. While I do fear the loss of portrait commissions, I do pixel art too, and feel pretty safe in knowing AI will never make good sprites(especially animated ones).

>>6212142
No him, but creating art also creates you, if you know what I mean. your soul grows.

>>6212113
>>6212105
>>6212095

no ai will create said picture exactly. PLEASE NOTICE I said exactly(you mofos have a habit of selectively reading words)

how will a person use AI in this situation, sure they'll create "lady in art nouveau style" "bottle in art nouveau style" then they will drag those assets in PS and illustrator and tweak them. to show picture provided.
anyone who knows clients know they will say can you make the blue dress red and and change the pattern??der der

Are you going to have the ai redo it or just do it yourself.

granted we maybe another 5 years from the ai being capable of doing this with direction.

ps, im also going to change fields and moving into the medical field because i can see where this is going for my field.

BUT i should add when quicken and peachtree(another accounting program) came out, accountants thought they were done for.
omg this program can just do taxes for us.
What happened was although some business ower plugged in the values into excel or quicken, they still needed an accountant and review the statements and make sure everything was done properly.

i think artists will be fine but that i think artists will be forced to produce more fantastical work and they will start learning more complex stuff like 3d,Videography, 3d animation, working with blended 3d production. working with blended 2d animation etc.

>>6212136
oddly enough the first thing ai will kill will be hentai and ecchi artists.
most people will be satisfied with whatever the ai produces .

thick cat girl waifi with tiger paws slightly bend over in style of manga [generate]

>>6212138
>Now GO DRAW or you're getting GLOCKED nigga
Good one shill, just so your new AI can be carried on the back of even more human work?

>>6212157
Yes there will still be jobs for artists because someone has to spend the time actually using the ai and then adjusting for client or art director feedback.
Like someone said, its just gonna turn into graphic design where people with no skills who need flexible remote work like moms will be the main demographic doing art that previously required some semblance of skill.

>>6212151
useless if A.I will just snatch that soul-driven result and bash it w something else.

>>6212167
You would be surprised by how many artists are kept afloat by commissions of weird fetishes. All of them will disappear overnight when their contractors use the AI to generate anything copying their artstyle.
On an inverted situation, when the better AIs are picked up by big industries they will begin to release commercial-professional models with as many tools as photoshop. There will be ways to pick up your traces and lines from a picture and apply it to a never-before seen AI image, essentially having it do automatic tracing for you and claiming that image as legitmately yours. The way the remaining artists will be headed after this Fallout is being reduced to selling their artstyle models on AI sites, similarly to how people sell brush types in CSP

>>6212186
Stop thinking about what your art will get you from other people(money/likes), instead think about what you get from your own art.(develop taste/emotional release/self-enlightenment etc.)

>>6212199
>instead think about what you get from your own art.(develop taste/emotional release/self-enlightenment etc.)
People will get these same feelings from AI-generated art and designs, after all they're made from the remains of many different human emotions loosely related to the generated pic their blended art went into. I only joined art because I appreciated the emotions and thoughts of the person behind the picture, but now that AI art becoming identical at face value with what humans can do, art will just be disgusting to look at since there will be now way to tell how much of it is genuine.

>>6212236
The whole universe was "procedurally generated" by an explosion billions of years ago. We feel emotions seeing planets, sunsets, animals, everything, no human made those. I am pretty tired and not sure where I was really going with that, but I think there is something to it.

How can AI art be real art if you are dependent on some neutered algorithm that is controlled by corporate interests and censored to shit? It's funny watching uncreative, soulless reddit bugmen writing shit like "i-it's just the medium, it's no different than any other tool!!". No fucking pencil I ever heard of could tell me what to draw.

This is what globohomo has always wanted, kill art and all free expression. They've mostly done it with music, making sure that only atrocious meaningless consoomer drivel reaches the top 10s, and now they're doing the same with visual art.

>>6212330
An AI that borrows from Google images to generate mundane concepts limited to the original human artist's creativity definitely shouldn't have its "creation" process held in the same regard as the Big Bang. That would be akin to worshiping a burning tree as a Sun God.

>>6212366
The worst thing is it's just real works of real artitst being used to assemble together. No legal move will be made on this but it's using the dedication of artist as the fuel to cheapen the value of their works. When no one bothers to make art anymore the AI will stop having new toys to play with and stuck in a feedback loop contributed only by npcs and their flawed idea of creativity. Art is going to be killed, and this time by forcefeeding everyone garbage to drown out the good things

>>6212434
I think what I responding to was the "art will just be disgusting to look" due not knowing if something beautiful had humans thought behind it or not. I feel that is an odd take.

These AI threads have been a living curse on wagies and anxious teens.

The reality is, AI will be able to augment your art, not replace it. You will be able to inspire yourself much more sufficiently.
Also, indie commercial art is a lot more about community engagement. People on Twitter usually don't get famous because they have awe-inspiring photobashing skills, they get followers because people want to follow someone that engages with them, makes quippy comics and funny cartoons, makes drawing tutorials, and so on.

>>6212537
fuck off shill go back to california

Ban AI threads.

>A.I is slowly degrading and bastardizing the art sphere, and no one is batting an eye.
Because it's not, it's a tool. If a tool degrades your art, your art wasn't worth much to begin with.

>A.I WILL reach 90% of the artistic world, from music to illustrative works. Your mutuals/followers/friends will request art from you SOLELY out of respect and not the quality/talent you create in the near future.
What an idiotic hang up to have. Art has no utility anyway, if you conceive of it as a product, you're already lost.

>Why isnt anyone talking about this as much as i expected?
There's a ton of imbeciles who don't understand how these latest models work and think they can do anything or are just about there. They neither understand the technology, nor have they read the papers, otherwise they would never have posted anything so retarded.
There's also a countless amount of idiots and larpers who like to think of themselves as "artists" but hate to actually practice art and will jump on ANY excuse to do nothing but sit and whine. With ADHD, asian genes, aphantasia and whatever other brain deficiency going out of vogue, the flavor of the month excuse is AI.
Everyone else just shrugs and goes back to doing art.

>>6212543
>>6212538

>>6211859
>>6211935

>>6212537
Your predictions are wrong all but the community engagement aspect. The only way for artists in the future to survive the AI flood will be through honing their marketing and self-advertising skills more than artistic ones. They will need to become digital influencers and create personas like Andrew Tate in order to even get likes. AI artists will also join this game too. The only ones to remain untouched will be those settled in the laundering art industry

>>6211935
>>6212555
the more technology progresses the more I love miyazaki
ai was a mistake

>>6212555
I agree. But most normies don't care about the actual soul in art. They may feel it instinctively but when present with cool looking capeshit art, which is basically what they want, they foam at the mouth and worship them right away, all the more when they delude themselves into thinking they are a creator and an artist. It feels evem sadder to think teenagers who do art for fun and post their wonky characters on animo or something won't have much reason to engage with the hobby wholeheartedly anymore, when they can just punch in the prompts and forget about it, even when their permabeg looking art would give them much more joy and look more soulful

>>6212565
Ghibli then, barely use technology, at most augment a scene with sfx. Now, make a whole cg movie that looks like shit and is shit. Technology weakens artists. Doing it the hard way makes you strong. There will never be another Miyazaki...

>tfw koikatsu artists will be more respected and legitimate than 2d artists (for a brief time until 3d AIs comes out)
The world is upside down

>>6212568
Most normies will be okay with what ever the first or second draft the AI farts out. That said I’m seeing beyond this into stuff like music.
Ever had a song you but want to hear something similar but different. AI will force a lot of people to up their game and skill up. That said I think physical art work will make a huge comeback. The problem will be when you have physical artwork that was inspired by AI.

>>6211859
Visual Art is a window of the future. Always has been. If you see AI all over the Art spectrum is because all you know as a labor force will be replaced by AI. From KFC to WallStreet, everything.
Why you think the assholes at WEF whant less people. Shit going down.

if it can't do porn then I'm not interested.

>>6212562
>AI artists will also join this game too.
they're not artists you deluded fuck. they're commissioners to an AI at best

>>6212797
AI curator works I think

>>6212193
>You would be surprised by how many artists are kept afloat by commissions of weird fetishes.
oh of course

thing is many of these 2d artists should be transitioning into 3d animation stuff asap.
the ones who are already into 3d modeling should be turning there works in 3d printed works(im getting a resin 3d printer for this purpose). Many artists who did henti,echi will be asked to produce custom printed waifu figures.

next up with be the nft guys who will need shoes or jackets to wear in the meta verse.


AS WITH ANYTHING IF YOU DONT ADAPT YOU DIE (NOT SHOUTING)

>>6212804
what the fuck is an AI curator? If you tell an artist to draw you something you're a commissioner. if you tell an AI to draw you something, you're just as much of a commissioner. "AI curator" is something made up to make nobodies sound important

>>6211859
ill really start being worried about AI when it comes up with cures for new drugs on the fly

>>6211962
I support this.

>>6212083
>artist on youtube
they earn money by creating videos and not by drawing skills
ai for them it's just a new topic for videos

>>6212797
The line will become blurrier when /beg/s start submitting their 2 minutes art and using AI to tune it up to their own wishes, so they can claim they just used ai to touch it up. Nobody will known. Nobody will care. People will just gobble it up

>>6212870
doesn't matter, still doesn't make them artists

>>6211859
learn to code chud :^)

>>6212808
I am going to use unity to sell my shit tailored for metaverse. It's not like they can steal models as easily as images. The 2d art medium is about to become a nuclear wasteland for everyone but the top artists who secured their bunker under some company's wing, so i'm not going to stay there waiting for the moment when the flip happens

>>6212880
Do you realize how inane this statement is? You might care about the methods, but the consumers will only care about the final product. They will call the AI promoters artists for the sake of convenience. And soon enough no one will have the means to know if the art they saw while scrolling on a booru was done by a machine or a person. The title of "artist" will be degraded enough to hold less weight than that of a janitor.

>>6212906
>You might care about the methods, but the consumers will only care about the final product.
I don't give a shit about the consooooomers. Never did.

>>6211978
I'm kinda new to all this. How does it compare to Midjourney and DALLE-2?

>>6213003
It's better, probably the best, but MJ has better aesthetics. Fuck this nigger >>6212036

>>6213007
And it's completely free? What the fuck. How can those other AI compete?

>>6212808
What about animation, is it still save?

>>6211859
>get specifically into art thinking it will be one of the last things to be replaced by ai
>instead it becomes the very first thing to be replaced
I am convinced this universe was specifically designed to fuck me over

someone literally typed 'landscape' and got this.
I'm getting a rope

>>6212086
>still thinking mod isnt full of a.i. trannies at this point

>>6211859
>cant draw gore
>cant draw porn
>cant understand the concept of human emotion
>cant understand philosophy
>can only make nonsensical beauty
ᵒʰ ᵇᵒʸ iᵐ ˢᵒ ᶠᵘᶜᵏinᵍ ˢᶜᵃʳᵉᵈ ˢʰiᵗˡᵉˢˢ ʳiᵍʰᵗ nᵒʷ iᵗ ʷiˡˡ ᵈᵉᶠiniᵗᵉˡʸ ᵗᵃᵏᵉ ᵒᵛᵉʳ ᵘˢ ᵇʳᵒ...

>>6213064
In your own words, can you even describe what that is a picture of?

>>6213074
doesn´t matter, its good enough for normies

>>6212555
Most normies and begs will disagree with Miyazaki but he was 100 percent right on his hatred towards tech

>>6213064
At least pay the silicon pajeets a visit before doing that

>these "prompt engineers" are getting paid by normies instead of artists

>>6211859
>Your mutuals/followers/friends will request art from you SOLELY out of respect and not the quality/talent you create in the near future.
This is already true to a degree. Do you think anyone would buy this if it were made by anyone but Butch Hartman?

I'm using AI to generate concept art for a cyberpunk game that's about AI taking over art and leaving artists homeless

If you are in a position where your livelihood/income is dependent on making art (i.e graphic design, copy writing, even fine non-digital art) and not taking this seriously or looking for another career/income then you are a fucking retard with you head firmly up your ass to what is coming.

>>6213116
very cute you dumb faggot. What's it going to be about, the world glitching into a pixel mess?

>>6212084
>>6212110
You expect us to take you seriously, when you can't even figure out, how to take a fucking screenshot of the picture you made in MJ.
>>6213116
>[spoiler]
fucking tourist get the fuck out of my board.

>>6213119
hey man don't be salty at me, I'm not the one who forgo to invest in anything but NEET tier skills. Don't worry I'm sure UBI will be a thing... maybe lol

>>6213116
>If you are in a position where your livelihood/income is dependent on making art
I draw fart porn. Not saying AI cant do it, but it’s niche enough I probably won’t be replaced anytime soon.

>>6213124
UBI will never be a thing

>>6213116
The more I look into this, the less sense it makes. Where is the ground, even? You could have done this shitty visual vomit with simple photobashing and filter tools a decade ago instead of coming here to brag about using AI to do it faggotourist

>>6213144
that would be an easy thing to fix and obviously a maturity issue with the tech/AI.
I already have characters created by it.
>>6213141
Shh you gotta give the proles something to hope for.

>>6213147
Do you genuinely believe people will be interested in playing your game when these obvious midjourney characters will just be seen as a red flag of stock-tier low effort quality for years to come? These pics in specific aren't even something slightly pleasing to look at, the uncanny valley is plastered all over their faces. Try again in 3 or 5 years when AI might get passable since you need a machine to do your work.

>>6213141
It will soon

I can't help but think of all the holocaust survivors who through the use of AI will finally be able to portray their vivid memories and remind the world in frightening details of the terrible crimes commited, hopefully having their memories canonized and placed on a memorial too.

>>6213182
The government would unironically rather regulate automation ie: limit the number of self-driving trucks per truckers employed) than hand out UBI. Some already do that with market cashiers

>>6211859
cheer up guy
RJ palmer (a pro concepartist/ thatGuyWhoPaintRealisticPokemon) is probably the first pro artist who show concern about new AI that target Artist work rather than image. Its called Stable Diffusion
https://twitter.com/arvalis/status/1558623545374023680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1558623545374023680%7Ctwgr%5E13b4853ed87cbe386ae116aafccf9e86df6aeabe%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frdrama.net%2Fpost%2F93963%2Factual-drama-surrounding-the-new-stablediffusion

>>6213279
another hit for anime artists
https://twitter.com/amberbladejones/status/1558625837431214080
>Soon even the anime tiddy pinup artists can be replicated
LMAO

>>6211859
Isn't it more likely that man will still do the actually inventive and creative work while ai will do the grunt work that goes along with the process? Will an ai make full length animated films or just do the inbetweens very efficiently for example?

>>6213279
>the more realistic art styles look less uncanny
>anime art looks uncanny as fuck
weebGODS keep winning

>>6213288
That looks nothing like Amano art what

>>6213287
that is still garbage. I don't care about wasted time learning or shit like that. but if this is what art will become then I'll stop caring about art period. Because it's a ruined mess

>>6213279
Lol only now I saw this. These techfucks are really the embodiment of chutzpah, putting artist's names in their website as suggestions for consoomers to rip art from. I can't possibly envision something more disgusting than this, putting human creativity in a bottle.

This thread has giving me an epiphany: art as a clientele based career may have been usurped, but art as an original idea-based career is far from gone. At the end of the day, an experienced artist with skill can TRULY create from the heart, while the laymen will feed off whatever the machine gives. If the layman wants a green orangutan on a beach, the machine will give him 5-6 iterations. And the person will thus reiterate untill satisfied. The experienced artist will jot down from the very beginning exactly how they want it. The human artist knows what they want directly, while the layman will get what they want "which is good enough". This belittlement of desire is within the same scope as porn, and other mass consumption. It is a value-less addiction. By "original idea based careers", i mean stories, comics, characters and **ideas**. The world of ideas is infinite. Thats the single strand of hope tying everything together. Unless a super computer A.I churns out every single idea in existence, theres bigger issues to worry about.

TL;DR:
Art as an idea has not been touched/will not be affected in a very long time. Art as original ideas will constantly be in demand side by side whatever the A.I produces.

I think we should accept A.I as this expedited element within our art journey, not as a hindrance.

>>6213335
Sorry dude but my AI just generated 1 quadrillion of different images and you just so happened to paint over one of its existing works. I live in the UK by the way and here copyrighting AI work is allowed so delete your pic right now or else I'll DMCA strike you

>>6211991
Poos are Asian Jews
>>6212020
They truly are the unseen enemy
>>6211859
Speak for yourself but I welcome the new age of our transhumanist renaissance. Man and machine working together to create what seems to be the impossible. What could go wrong?
>>6212138
This
>>6212537
Being a great artist really is about charisma, personality and marketing. All these nerds believing if they just bump up their skills enough they'll make bank meanwhile a machine will fucking wash them away. Be a human and humans will want to follow you.

>>6211859
Its really astonishing the length the elites are willing to go to to close every avenue for freelancing amd shove us all into wage cages and pods

>>6213279
this is definitely not replacing artists as it is, however it's an insane plagiarism tool. you'll now have people masquerading as you, verminous tech bros sharing art that they "made" on Twitter in "your style". it's not just stealing your art, it's also stealing your identity. this shit is evil

>>6213354
It is foolish to think your worst case scenario would be waging your life away. That will actually sound like a preferable scenario in the incoming decades. The logical conclusion of our ideal society model is to just maximize profits, and in this planet, your worth as a human is defined by how valuable your work Is. What happens when the value falls from 15$/hour to 1Kw/H? You're dead weight

>>6213342
Oxymoron since that A.I just used 1 quadrillion other pre existing works. You forgot A.I uses existing works right? Like any other dataset. Even a human fetus has magnitudes of greater original thought than a super computer

>>6213342
Unless the A.I creates 1 quadrillion ORIGINAL works not based on ANY artist, its useless

>>6213363
Imagine people trolling with this, creating art with art styles of people they hate, subsequently butchering their OCs or creating hitler in their style. This is extreme levels of toxicity on a huge scale>>6213370

>>6213335
>This thread has giving me an epiphany: art as a clientele based career may have been usurped, but art as an original idea-based career is far from gone. At the end of the day, an experienced artist with skill can TRULY create from the heart, while the laymen will feed off whatever the machine gives. If the layman wants a green orangutan on a beach, the machine will give him 5-6 iterations. And the person will thus reiterate untill satisfied. The experienced artist will jot down from the very beginning exactly how they want it. The human artist knows what they want directly, while the layman will get what they want "which is good enough".
yeah I mean i've honestly realized this from the start. it's also why I firmly do not believe that we will ever be replaced as humans (not just as artists) until artificial general intelligence is invented. that is, actual robots with human intelligence and judgment as capabilities at the very least. and honestly that's nowhere close for it to happen and it wouldn't matter anyway since that would basically mean the apocalypse and I'd probably kill myself preemptively

>>6213335
the truth is that the people who actually cared about art enough to pay for it tend to have very high standards which AI can't provide. it's just the retards who never cared about art that flock en masse to AI art. the normies who now fawn over AI art didn't give a shit about you in the first place

>>6213374
AI being a glorified blender doesn't matter as of now, because recent UK laws not only allow for copyright on AI works that look minimally original at a superficial levels, but also boost pretty much every other avenue of datamining for joint government and corporation interest.

Case on point, there will be nowhere to run if the advertised positive consensus on AI becomes solidified, so artists either try to get something out of this shitshow or there will be nothing to look out for in life as it all sounds like a bad dream.

is there a way to fuck over the dataset that it is based on? to create idk a virus that creates randomized nonsense pictures containing lines, geometric shapes, and colors with randomized tags?

>>6213394
can some tech bro answer this?

>>6213386
This is honestly my only cope now. People who pay money to commission art usually are passionate about the subjects themselves. But no matter how good A.I becomes it won't ever be flawless, sure it can produce better art than the average beg, but soul is soul, and I trust no-draws who are passionate about their OCs won't stoop so low as to tarnish their love children with nightmarish soulless ai generated images. As for professional products, any decent business will still need professional made art

>>6213379
I can already see many already-depressive jap artists finally necking themselves when a cheeky korean goes to their pixiv artworks and start posting catbox links to pics of their waifu OCs being raped/NTRed

>>6213398
People that pay for ocs most likely wont use AI generated images, because it wont get all the details right, or would straight up butcher the character to an unrecognizable degree

>>6213400
In their artsyle nonetheless. Nips have proven to be able to perform bombing and high profile murder using homemade weapons. Let's hope at least one of their autistic otaku will end that pajeet's ugly mug

>>6213394
Stable Diffusion's upcoming opensource model has the learning parameters packaged into it. I don't know if it can work offline right now, but I heard it's being developed to be able to do so, therefore being even harder to 'break' it, just like attempting to hack an offline game on someone's PC from afar. One could alsoo try to miraculously delete the code from whateverever place it is released, but nothing stops someone from reuploading it right away.

It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that the damage has already been done, artists can only hope to prevent more advanced models from being developed.

imagine being a luddite just to be able to draw shitty furry porn for chump change instead of fully supporting complete ai automation and finally getting rid of the shackles of wageslavery
how can one be so shortsighted

>>6213433
>how can one be so shortsighted
ironic. replacing humans from all aspects of life with machinery is now being a "luddite". we'll end up living in pods controlling our avatars through the world, and technocratic retards like you would consider that "progress"

>>6213436
pods and bugs yes, unlike how the things are right now when an aspiring artists wages at walmart, eats rice and beans, and draws horny wolves for some degenerate to masturbate to

>>6213441
you fucking braindead retard.

>>6213443
>reee
ouch

>>6211980
>>6211974
>>6211962
>>6212855

are you people legit retarded? this is an easy fix for them. dalle and google ai already filter out NSFW prompts and results

>>6213446
you're so fucking retarded. there really is no point in engaging with you, because you're an incoherent retard, trying to boil down all art to low quality furry porn because that's probably just the only thing you follow. and then use it as an argument for "AI good" as if that made any sense in the first place? what even is your point, you low IQ bugman

Nsfw lolisho artists will singlehandedly carry on the banner of human-made hand-crafted art. Hello job security

Considering this technology could reproduce anyone’s likeness without their consent and draw them in obscene situations, up to and including minors, there will very likely be strict regulations imposed onto it once it becomes more accessible to the public regardless of how damaging it ends up being to artistic integrity

>>6213448
it is open source ie you can edit it and run it on your own hardware

>>6212084
>illustration of boy playing football with his dog on the streets of paris and his dog happens to be corgi that wears a polkadot scarf
BEHOLD

>>6213498
>it is open source ie you can edit it and run it on your own hardware
Go on then.

>>6212084
>>6213513
alternatively

This is with the small sized text encoder currently being used on Stable Diffusion. It has been known for a while now that the bigger of a text encoder you train, the more specific you can be about generated images. The Stable Diffusion guys are already training a much larger text encoder which they plan on using for the V2 model. The V1 model is small enough to fit on a lot of gaming GPUs (<10GB). For reference, GPT-3 takes 700GB. These kinds of text-to-image models have a lot of room to grow.

>>6213513
INCINERATE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>6213513
yea that guy is a retard, lmao. its emotion that ai struggles to convey. and hes wrong about the ai needing to generate everything from scratch if a client changes its mind. dalle already includes the ability to change specific parts of an image.

>>6212193
I'd like to see an AI try to illustrate a comic.

>>6213513
>>6213522
Oh no no no beg bros how can we compete with these professional looking art? At this rate our mom will take our art off the fridge and put these there instead!

>>6213554
Dude... Just stop poking it. "Id like to see a computer generate a picture" was the case a decade ago...

>>6213016
indian sir on discord said it would work on your macbooks. About 5 mins on m1 for 1 image.

>>6213554
It's already been done.

>>6213558
I'd like to see an AI try to make a full hentai doujinshi comic from textual input.

>>6212537

AI threads just confirms public education failed a lot of people on brainstorming because all its doing is exactly pic related. The worst part is you can think better than an algorithm—that’s why they need (you) to keep feeding it information.

just throw water on the computer you fucking retards LMFAOOO

>>6213575
This.
>>6213573
AI threads shed light on important issues

>>6213576
It’s a non-issue. It is an issue only for those with unfortunate thinking skills that were never taught in adolescence.

>>6213522
I don't think they will release the v2 model to the public. They're going to go after profit soon. They will probably selfhost their advanced models and charge some small fee(should be much less than dall-e 2). I think this model was just for marketing.

>>6213573
Imagine they get massive capital investment for a glorified spider web generator that photobashes. Scam all around, but someone will fall for it.

>>6213576
The issue doesn't even exist. It's a hypothetical issue rooted in a prediction.

tick tock lolitards

>>6213613
>>6213573

A.I. can't sculpt

>>6212366
>controlled by corporate interests and censored to shit
The whole point of Stable Diffusion is to open source it so nobody can censor or control it.

>>6213144
It's the first pass of an AI, no shit it's flawed. But if it can do that today, what do you think it can do by 2027, for instance? You're being delusional.

100% serious question. Should I leave school for illustration and animation and go to another field because of this. Art was always a tough gig money wise but AI is just going to make it even more painful.
I'm not worried about the high end fine commission type work, but that's far and few between. It's the lower end grunt work that will be automated for adverts and animations that's the issue.

>>6213660
What do you think is going to happen once people start using SD to generate porn of public officials and photorealistic CP?

>>6213675
oh no the disaster
how we'll survive?!

dude, u serious?

>>6213675
Why is using text-to-image ai worse in your opinion than using face swap apps or photoshopping images yourself? lol retard

I think that the main consequence will be that people will stop improving their drawing skills, art schools and institutes (there are a lot of them in my country) will close, perhaps the current generation of masters is the last

what's the point of improving and developing skill and style spending years, decades of hard training to develop skill - if the main result of this it will be that someone will simply copy them into the AI in a couple of seconds, and you will not get anything at all

in the end, the skill of drawing with your hands will degrade and disappear

>>6213675
Sweet FA. It's a model I can run on my own computer, there's nothing they can do about it.

If you're talking about the consequences for the politicians, it'll help them; now if the images of them raping children get leaked from the blackmail dossiers the politicians can credibly claim it was AI generated and the blackmail becomes useless. Such a scenario might help shatter the cartel's grip on power and make politicians stop acting against their countries interests out of fear of being exposed.

>>6213687
no, not my commie art schools, not my twitter comic artists, not my heckin concept artisterinos!

>>6213687
Art for financial gain will disappear, pure art done for art's sake will persist and thrive. Easy. People need to stop seeing art as a lucrative hustle done for the sake of cash, but instead something done for its own sake as a form of self-expression.

>>6213689
inappropriate sarcasm
all this sutuation is very very sad

DALL-E/SD user here. I started an AI art business, let's see how many crumbs I can steal from the mouths of starving artists. One of my favorite parts is, I still get all the fawning and praise like a real artist.

>>6213694
>Art for financial gain will disappear, pure art done for art's sake will persist and thrive.
you're childish and naive

>>6213639
Machines can sculpt, so put down the chisel and make some 3D models.

>>6213689
>commie
unironically commie at least think about workers interests

>>6213700
what do you mean an AI business?
What are you planning to sell?
Do you even know if you own the rights to the images the AI creates?

>>6213686
The AI is much easier to use and produces better results than meticulously photoshopping the images, dumb shitforbrain retard. Of course this will be a bigger issue and it will attract more attention when ever schizo out there can produce hyperrealistic child pornography.

>>6213686
>ai
AI can make a finished product right away, such as book covers, children's illustrations, illustrations for board games and much more...the artist is no longer needed in a huge number of directions

>>6213711
>ever schizo out there can produce hyperrealistic child pornography
So what. It doesn't harm real children. At worst, it makes complainants like yourself feel icky, and your feelings don't matter.

>>6213716
>AI can make a finished product right away
Can it? I've used all the AI's and haven't seen an example of that yet.

Well go on then. Go start a business, or make your childrens book using text and image ais. Easy money I guess.

>>6213718
YOUR feelings don't matter because child pornography is illegal, and this is indistinguishable from the real thing and it will be regulated whether you like it or not. Sorry your pedo fee fees got hurt kek.

if it's any consolation, writers are also being replaced. It's already gotten to a stage where normie blogs use AI to generate text that then gets finetuned by a human, only a matter of time until the human is no longer necessary.

>>6213707
A business selling mostly AI made products.
I don't want to give away all my plans, but weaving together the various AI services I've mastered/am currently training on. I have it set it up like I am a commission artist, but I sell images in bulk and/or AI services to refine images. I can also sell the prompts I use to get good generations, there's already a marketplace for that.
Yeah, as far as DALL-E is concerned I have the full right to sell the art it makes. SD don't give a shit.
My gallery is at about 150 images, but I've only made $70 dollars so far after a week, so it might take time to grow or will always be a side hobby for easy cash.

>>6213721
>start a business
what business are you talking?
i say exactly about it there is no place for business anymore, ai services replace this...it cost 30$/month or even self hosted like sd

>>6213726
Only if they know how to do it right, otherwise...

>>6213639
nah, blender models are still just data points ie can be used in learning. add 3d printing and sculptors are donezo. only reason is ai guys haven't got to it yet.

>>6213726
>writers are also being replaced
actually in my country(russia) one cable network is already launching a series the script for which was completely written by a neural network trained on their past sitcoms

so all the creative work done by humans will be destroyed by machines over time

>>6213741
Thank god I'm a software engine--
>https://github.com/features/copilot

>>6213738
in the future you may be able to use AI to generate a 3d model and print it out but you can't 3d print a solid rock

>>6213751
yeah the same way you couldn't possible have a robot and other machines cut out 3D metal parts for cars

>>6213753
I doubt that there will be sufficient demand for marble statues in the modern age to facilitate the invention and widespread use of such machines but yeah, it's possible.
At the moment though, in relation to AI calling into question the amount of human involvement in the creation of art, carving something into stone seems like the best way to make a work of art that proves that you're a human and not a machine.

>Why isnt anyone talking about this as much as i expected? in /ic/ out of all forums/blogs?
This thread actually received 216 replies. It will see 300. Fuck this place.

>>6213064
At that point it's just nothing more than a glorified google image search with more process. The problem comes when people start scamming and make money for "commissions".

>>6213279
>https://twitter.com/StableDiffusion/status/1558540888220901379
This is straight up theft at this point and the developer isn't hiding it anymore.

The reality is that as a human, everybody has the capacity to make “art,” or at least wants to. Many do not because the technical skills of the craft are daunting as a barrier. AI art is removing this barrier, so expect shitty ideas and mass produced garbage. If you are somebody who identifies as an artist in any way, I’d be using AI right now and Id be using it meaningfully- thought out prompts, precise goals, rigorous filtering process. Use it to help you make permanent what you see in your minds eye. If “artists” don’t use it as a tool, then corps will. “Artists” need to be the best at using the tech. There will be AI consultants for businesses. Although, I share in the general lament that it is butchering appreciation for craft. This has already happened for music- where beginners can get a pro level sound by purchasing pre-mixed sample packs and sticking them together like glue. A lot of techniques like sound design and niche mixing choices are becoming forgotten skills amongst the new. Carry on the tradition of craft so that people in the future will know what humans are capable of.

>>6213868
>If you are somebody who identifies as an artist in any way, I’d be using AI right now and Id be using it meaningfully

people love to draw, its more about process than final picture
no one would interested in it if there will be only prompt and final picture, and actually a zero of your real engagement in the creating of final result

you suggest to the fisherman who is sitting with a fishing rod on the shore enjoying the process of fishing to transfer to a fishing boat because there are fish there and there

Heads up, that diffusion pajeet is working on a V2 model right now. It's believed to be a strictly commercial model since the database size is too big even for game PCs, so I can only guess the quality he's aiming to reach. All the retards thanking him for granting them the open source code for the "mini" edition are just peons for the free advertising that will carry over

>>6213883
>no one would interested in it
no one here i mean
its ic, people here because they like to draw

and you offering them something like instagram experience , enter prompt - see results - say like it or not

>>6213639
>A.I. can't sculpt
yet, you mean it cant sculpt yet

>its ic, people here because they like to draw
this isn't true for a large section of the users

>>6213868
the main problem I have with this is that the user has as much influence on the artwork as someone who is commissioning an artist to do the same work. The ai is also trained on good artwork, meaning that in the near future, anything it produces will be top tier work. There will be no need for a professional to overlook the ai, or to edit it. It will always surpass the professionals, and there will be no worth in pursuing the arts, or expressing yourself through art

>>6213908
at the very least they like the prospect of drawing

>>6213573
If blockchain technology was incorporated that spiderweb wouldn't be there. Too bad people didn't think twice before signing up a contract with the devil, having a symbiotic relationship with these data scrapping platforms to spread their work. At some point in recent past, they have fed the algorithm so much that it doesn't need to coexist with them anymore, so they are disposed of, but their content will remain as an eternal brick in the foundation of the new Babylon being built

>>6212015
>>6212006
I'm waiting for the retards to complain
"You're being selfish"
"You're gatekeeping creativity"

>>6213639
>A.I. Generate 3D model in blender with perfect topo
>Use 3D printer to generate 3D model from blender into real life
The only limiting factor here is that there is a bit more cost involved in this, especially the larger you go.

>>6213942
Reflect on the lives of millions of amputee artists that won't exist in the future if you destroy this AI

>>6213279
Nice to see people are getting pissed off about this

>>6213957
Thats an insult to amputees. There are people with no arms that playing fighting games at a competitive level.
The movie "My Left Foot" exists for the artist version.
Not to mention that advances in limb replacement options will allow amputees to regain hand dexterity within the next decade alone.

>>6213966
twatterinos don't get that ai steals as much as any artist who gets inspired by other artists' work

>>6213966
Yup, I'm just afraid the wave of NPCs will come in and quell this by making artists look bad. We are in the 2nd stage of grief right now.

>>6213996
The difference in "stealing" artwork as a professional artist is that you actually have to have the skills built to use that persons art in your own manor, making it in your own style, which already appeals to a different audience, so it's more of a positive than a negative. You can also elevate each other's following by doing so. With an AI you can't do any of those things because an AI can just copy you and you just lose followers and no one wins except lazy people that want good work for free.

>>6213997
We'll see how these corporations play their hands. The amputee story will definitely be brought up, as well as "democratization of art" being used by MSM when this grows to become widely public knowledge. More and more artists will get pissed about being subjected to this neoplagiarism, but they'll be the minority compared to the wishes of the untalented, becoming a moot point to try to discuss. It will ultimately come down to a decision from above when it becomes that controversial

>>6214056
So depressing but you're saying exactly what I'm thinking. They'll stop any artist from speaking about it too for fear of ridicule. I absolutely despise humanity for it's group-think, which will be the fall of our species.

>>6214099
Public opinion is kneaded like dough every day. I am grinning thinking of how funny it will be when BBC passes a short documentary about AI art and implies "Does AI truly have life? Can it be accepted in our society? (Yes, look how pretty this pictures is)" while showing the viewers some oil painted farmland it blended together. I know for a fact my parents will gobble it up. Many will, others won't. They are making a puppet show and telling the audience the puppets are legit. People will regress to worship idols, and shitty AIs shall become the world's golden calf.

>>6214117
Yea lol, it seems like the future is going to be full of artists supporting each other instead of competing against each other.

Now hear me out: AI that can detect if an image is made by an human or AI

>>6214145
let me do a judo flip on that hypothetical and remind you tech companies will probably exploit that to make AI drawings even more human-like by trial and error.

>tfw only good at drawing
This is a cruel joke... Why me

>>6214159
within the next half decade every job you can think of will have sufficiently competent AI stand-ins, the only reason artists are the first to become shafted is because the results of automatically generated art that's actually good is immediately appealing and eye-catching to the public in a way that AI produced programming, architecture etc. isn't. but if you've seen how fucking powerful the latest language models are it's not a question of if but when it'll trivialize any job that can be done on a computer

>>6214178
Within 5 years there will be self driving cars everywhere? Cooks, bakers, writers, athletes, hookers, chemists, police, surgeons etc?
No I'd say maybe 5-10% of the jobs will be replaced

>>6214182
i said there will be AI stand-ins, which doesn't necessarily mean they'll be implemented but they will exist. i have no doubt there will be an AI that's a hundred times better than a human could ever be at driving a car or doing surgery within the next half decade, obviously the process for society to actually trust those things enough to integrate them will take time but alternatives to good human labor *will* exist within that timeframe

>>6214178
Remember space hotels? What about invisible cloaks that you read in kids Time magazines in 2001? Or flying cars? What about hover boards or VR full dive predicated by pop culture? What about drone delivery—wasn’t that the end of delivery and mailmen as we known it? Ouya was susp0sed to be the killer of all consoles. Remember the time when….

Yeah don't worry, because the ai cannot get inspired by the djinn. You can.

>>6214188
These are physical machines that rely on many other constraints and factors outside the objectivity of the virtual realm, whereas we are at the mercy of pajeet coders when every bit of our work uploaded online can be exploited by them.

>>6211859
Every aspect of consumer media will become usurped by AI, there's literally an algorithm to what makes things appealing or good, eventually techbros will figure it out and put EVERYONE in the entertainment industry out of a job. you might think the ability to best charm a human audience is something only a human who's had experiences similar to them can do to perfection, but this impression is only given because most of us can only see the surface level of what clicks with the human psyche, i.e. why big anime eyes are cute or why balding hair is ugly. obviously our understanding of human likes and dislikes can be way more nuanced than that but AI can simply use process of elimination at a rate far faster than humans possibly ever could in order to perceive even deeper visual/auditory/whatever quirks or details that people wouldn't notice that nevertheless maximize the quality of a work of art. it's those little things that set us apart from AI, and even then they'll eventually be better at those little things than us. It's over

Love to see art niggas cope, seethe and dilate

>>6213363
Guns aren't evil, it's the people that are evil
Nukes are evil because instead of making power plants, people make bombs.

People are evil, no ifs ands or buts.

>>6214239
This is AGI you're talking about and it is a whole different thing than this AI though, so there's no point in fearing something that will only appear in the next decade. This one has no quality control, it just takes images related to the search terms you used. You can tell it to do better art by saying "trending on artstation/pixiv" but the quality metric will be based solely on likes and comments. It's algorithm would crash were people to like only low tier art stuff and say it's beautiful

I wish this A.I. shit had come out sooner, at least that way I wouldn't have wasted so much time on art. I centered my life around something that turned out to be a complete dead end.

I used to think that there would be at least some space for an overpainting, but now look at this ai drawing, it's already enough for the normi and even too cool

I lost any opportunity to earn money without even starting to earn

It's all so depressing to me

>>6214303
looks beg-tier

Hear me out: theese AIs use primitive search engines that rely on the meaning of words. Any further pictures fed to the training algorithm would break it were artists to use completely random, misleading terms to describe their art.

Artists should begin transforming the tags of their art into cryptographed language, like words and phrases that change hourly-daily on random intervals to brand new ones, ao that the AI would always stay behind with it being overloaded with outdated and messy results crossing overeach other. The pajeets training Iheir model would seethe having to reset and retrain their entire dataset 24/7 or else "bike on a bridge" would suddenly give results of a furry being dickvored in the specific day it was trained

>>6214328
Hey that's pretty funny

>>6214328
what you suggest should have been done yesterday, if not the day before yesterday

today everything is useless, literally everything, if tomorrow some psychopath finds and kills all the key developers, it won't change anything either

how are you guys holding up, are you all in full cope mode right now?

>>6214369
i just give up, i think at the moment i have the strongest period of depression in my entire life
nothing have sense anymore, there is no future

>>6214346
it would put a smile on my face

>>6213675
>What do you think is going to happen once people start using SD to generate porn of public officials and photorealistic CP?
Child porn that doesn't hurt anyone can finally means pedos can stop rapping real kids?
Thanks for revealing this actually is the best way to save real kids from being molested.

>>6214346
Sadly existing 2d art might have been harmed by it already to some extend, but we can prevent it from touching every other creative medium like 3d and music, as well as being able to protect our future 2d art from it, if this fault is abused.

Going back to my line of thought, we could play even more offensively by making use of unmoderated AIs like Diffusion to mass generate specifically gruesome content and flood the internet with AI trash. Think there are 200 existing artworks of the newly released Xenoblade 2 girls spread around the web, and we throw in 400 pictures of them being molested by an ugly bastard while just not mentioning this additional. Just like the AI thinks watermarks or a pair of eyes are essential parts of a character, it will think the ugly bastard should always be there next to them since they are bundled to the character name. Techjeets will need to painstakingly filter and train manually from the millions of image they absorb after a running a browser analysis on the training model. And then they won't even know how to tag new images properly since ideally artists would begin using dynamic phrases to link their pictures in order to prevent datamining theft, so it would just be corrupted with confused keywords

>>6214182
I think what he means is computer based jobs that requires no mechanical input.

Artists in the past lived their entire lives with something like this being nothing more than a fantasy. People in the future will simply grow up with A.I. art being the norm and won't think anything of it. We are alive at the worst possible time.

>>6214428
Yup, because now we're faced with the uncertainty of the future. Do we continue drawing in hopes it could be hype, or do we just give up and save our time for something else in the event it's over.

>>6212906
Ugh, people will start considering a guy who plugged in words into a machine an "artist" and normies will just say "He doesn't need to have skill to be an artist." This thread is just making me more and more angry because I know this shit is gonna happen.

>>6214428
Every new day is objectively worse than yesterday

>>6214428
Now is pretty bad but I think the future might be even worse. I see a future where there is nothing to do, everyone is addicted and everything is artificial. No liberty, no purpose, just distraction.

>>6214445
Normies are so goddamn predictable
If i wasn´t such a big sperg i could have scammed my way into a comfortable life

>>6214470
where it from

>>6214470
based

>>6214460
I mean, it's not like that will make much of a visible difference to consumers. If you have/had a gf in 202X, you can watch how she'll spend 3/4 of her free time on social media or scrolling tiktok. Then there are males who spend their time playing MMOs or gacha all day. These people are comfortable with being bombarded with endless media and consumerism. They must be, or else they would come to a realization that if left to their own devices there's no inner drive to think or do anything. They are the role models of our new world

>>6214478
Got it from >>6212006
Go to newest and you should find it.

>>6214374
>>6214369
same fag

>>6214492
Yup, eventually there's going to have to be a breaking point though. It's probably going to happen when another war breaks out and all the men trapped in solitude will come to the realization they learned 0 skills to handle what they're fighting. The weak will die.

>silicon valley fags shillposting in ai threads
are they really that fucking afraid of /ic/?

>>6214500
go kill yourself

>>6214506
These shills are quite a unique type, after all they must encourage someone to draw in order to profit from their work being submitted to the machine

>>6214511
>one phone post one desktop post
i know your tricks kike

>>6213667
>If the AI can do this with cars in 2012, what will it do in 2022? Wake up sheeple

>>6211978
>learned

>>6214392
Shit argument because this could've already been attempted with art til now and no one has approved of it. imagine being a parent you post your dumb kid on social media and a creep will use that picture to make porn of it. Use your goddamn brain because no one will stand for this

>>6214392
Pedos can rap?

>>6214528
Not trying to be the evil's advocate, but AI art is coinciding with shit like normalization of "child love" by controversial articles and participation in gay dance clubs. By the time this would be enough of a concern it wouldd be immediately shut down by conservatives rulings of a couple decades ago, but nowadays people won't bat an eye to this when there are bigger — physical preys to go after in the culture war

>>6211859
>stable diffusion
>2gb
>"makes" art from the ground up in under 5 seconds
Hmm something doesn't pass the smell test!
>>6213279
>>6213837
>>6213966
The lawsuits to come will be glorious

>>6214541
>conservatives
bees versus honey
as far as I know, all these gentlemen are big fans, main sponsors and the main audience of children's beauty contests

>>6214553
AI SCHIZOS JUST KEEP LOSING

>>6214553
https://twitter.com/StableDiffusion/status/1555947465928474625
all discussion
at least people start fighting back to this shit

>>6214558
>deleted
UhhHHHH we must act quick and shake all twitter artists up from furries to trannies. If we could get this on trending we pretty much have an early victory and give people a negative impression of these AIs. My bots were unfortunately banned back in independence day so I was left with only four accounts to repost

uuh?

>>6214571
BRUH schizos always win

>>6214571
more like unstable diffusion lmao

Look up the StableDiffusion hashtag, this shit is being posted by actual bots lmao

>>6214582
The GPT-3 reinforcements have arrived

Laughing my ass off at this
>dude who literally draws the same shit that ais draw (COMPUTER DRAW ME A REALISTICALLY RENDERED BOWSER) in this "industry professional" artstation style shitting his pants over DA GOMBYUDA GONNA TAEK DA JERB

https://twitter.com/arvalis/status/1558646172410990592

If your only interest in art is churning out generic looking "MTG READY" artworks for clout on artstation and exploitative jobs you will probably get replaced by AI sooner or later, because you're literally not adding anything of value other than creating art so derivative even AI can do your job.

If anything AI will fix art for everyone and the tryhard clout chasers will either move on, or disover art as a passion and not as a means to get ahead of others.

This is reality btw and no pouting and stomping will change it.
All the derrivative and assembly-line type art jobs WILL get automated. You don't need to hire 100 concept artists to do the same semi-photobashed "man with bostaff stands in front of mountain range" shit over and over.

>>6214593
>because you're literally not adding anything of value other than creating art so derivative even AI can do your job.

lol wtf is this argument? It's a matter of how good the AI gets. "even an AI" doesn't mean shit if the AI is a super god

>>6214596
You heard me. If your art is so arbitrary that soulless AI art can imagebash the exact same meaningless trite shit you upload on artstation all day you're maybe just not adding a whole lot to the craft itself.
If the only value your art has is that wizards of the coast hires you to draw the next meaningless generic elf character then you're probably on the chopping block.
If your only purpose in life is to draw frumpy looking photobashed concept art of various thirld world mercenaries in rags for the new far cry game, you are probably on the chopping block.

If you're CWC, Charles M. Schulz or literally any other artist with a distinguishable style and aristic ductus to you you're pretty much safe.
I'd go as far as to say Andrew Dobson is safe too, because no AI could imitate his particular brand of mediocre and lazy scribbles with his butthurt writing style.

>>6214602
>You heard me. If your art is so arbitrary that soulless AI art can imagebash the exact same meaningless trite shit you upload on artstation all day you're maybe just not adding a whole lot to the craft itself.
I agree with you but you haven't heard me. the AI can and will do more than just that. at which point will you stop calling it "even an AI"?

>>6214605
Don't waste time replying to outdated bait. The chance to spread the flames on twitter is now

>>6214605
The AI cant even draw proper spatial movement yet and has trouble conceptualizing where a spoon goes into a cup of coffee.
We got at least 5 to 10 years until it learns this kind of basic shit. And even then only human photocopier type artstation goons are in trouble, if they havent ragequit until then anyways.
None of the "artistic" decisions the AI makes are deliberate, it just mashes up countless of images it finds on google imagesearch and artstation to create approximations of whats already there.
Ironically the artstation clowns were probably the architects of their own demise simply by virute of uploading unholy amounts of nearly identical looking "me too" glam pieces to wow big computer game publisher Y or trading card company X.
if Ai starts getting sentient to the point where it could create relateable artworks that actually got something to say about their own condition and communicate it to an audience and not just ape whatever generic sunset makes 2 digit IQ normies from instagram go all fizzy in their sparse neurons we can talk about this subject again.

>>6214593
GOD i cant wait for the amazing coom thats gonna be created when all the generic pinup chuds get BTFO'd by AI and only the true coomer artists who care about creating content instead of quick bucks remain

>>6214615
This isn't bait, I'm just a whole lot more in touch with reality than some freaked out troon like yourself who shits is adult diaper because the computer is now gonna draw derivative generic orcs and evles, overwatch characters and whatever other imbecile shit "concept artist" losers trained themselves to draw to arbitrary perfection.
There's no turning back the wheel now. Genie is out the bottle. Adapt or get mogged.

>>6214605
AI wont go beyond that shit because its just calculus, it cant think for itself just run the same old algo's
the only difference between ow and 10 years ago is just pure computing power and bigger database to photobash from nothing more, its still the same shit that cant really learn or think for itself about anything

you guys talk as if AI will become sentient soon and have human capabilities, and not only will that neve rhappen in our lifetime, the day it does happen, ai doing art is the least of your worries

>>6214615
thank you for admitting its just shitters spreading their misery and dooming thinking others care
at least you picked the right area since art is full of mentally ill people and plenty who dont understand the tech

>>6214626
That's the best part. This is also the hillarious proof that all this uncreative fucking abomination of clout chasing semi-realistic artstation style shit art really was so soulless, generic and interchangeable to the point even a computer can do it now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pess_r/status/1557517982095626241
AI can already do full motion videos. You fags were theorising about filmmakers being replaced, well now you can make a clip of trump having gay sex with biden. Now your ex can make a clip of you abusing her. How fucked are we and why isn't this digital atomic bomb being regulated?

>>6214602
>CWC, Charles M. Schulz
where do you think they should come from now, if any artist can now be copied with a mouse click?

there will be no more masters, because no one will achieve mastery in the skill of drawing and fine art - it simply will not make sense

>>6214616
>got at least 5 to 10
before we think that we got 5 to 10 years untill thiss>>6214303

>>6214636
It's literally just keying out the dude and pasting a generic background in the back.
Some of you guys got serious trouble with thinking. If your IQ is this low maybe you should be worried about a computer keying out a dude playing tennis and adding a moon surface in the back.
Because thats the mind numbing shit people like you can do all day if you start as a intern at a vfx company.

>>6214639
You missed the point as hard as you could miss it.
This is such a aborted though of a logic failure.
But yeah, people with zero lateral thinking skills like yourself are probably in danger of being replaced by a soulles machine, because it doesn't look like you'd ever create anything of legit artistic merit with that mindset.

>only over-rendered concept art will be replaced
Style won't save you.

>>6214643
>lmao this Dall-E mini art is nothing stop worrying retard
>lmao this Dall-E 2 art will only replace artstation artists stop worrying retard

>lmao this video ai is just generating a tennis player and changing the floor stop worrying retard
Kys disinfo shill

>>6214649
It's not generating a tennis player, it's just keying him out you fucking mongoloid troon.
But if your IQ is really this low, yeah you might be endagered by AI, everyone else is probably fine.

>>6211985
Etsy isn't a real person.

>>6214649
If dall-e 2 was a person it couldn't tie their fucking shoes without shitting their pants.

So I see a whole lot of bitching and moaning from human photocopiers who trained themselves to photobash and overpaint really good. But what are you gonna do about it?
It's not like you can turn this back.
Like what's the plan here other than shitting your pants on 4chan all day and seething?
Are you gonna try to grow intellectually so you can actually create stuff that is unique? Are you gonna give up?
Or are you gonna hope that throwing a fit on 4chan and twitter will bend reality to your will?

>>6214571
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
*breathes*
AHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH

>the shill that appeared 300 posts in is still going on
Discordfags from Lattent Diffusion server came here to check the catalog since Palmer and other artists are just now starting to call out this fauxtomated tool. Not surprised lmao

>>6214657
If you paid any attention to the conversation people are worried that corps will turn to AI to copy the styles of popular artists without even asking them and then using that instead of hiring an artist altogether. This shit won't be the death of art (that's overdramatic) but it will legitimately shrink the number of jobs out there for working artists and lead to a bunch of pseudo-plagirism in the case of Stable Diffusion literally feeding the AI only one artist's work so it can pump out prompts in that artist's style.

>>6214646
answer the question
where do they come from? if any style can be copied with a mouse click, and as soon as any talented artist raises his head above the general background, his data will immediately be collected and transferred to the machine...I'm not even talking about the psychological effect of such a situation in general
then in order to achieve mastery in something you need to hone your skills constantly during every day, and if there is no paid work for artists, then the craft degrades by itself, because people need to work somewhere and earn money

in your reality, artists can only be the offspring of very rich people who will not need to think about money at all
or art will be a pile of shit and a rotten banana on the wall

>>6214602
>any other artist with a distinguishable style and aristic ductus to you you're pretty much safe.

>>6214668
You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of the concept of art beyond working as a human photocopier at a big corporation.
Yes, if your main concern was getting hired at ubisoft as a texture artist or some art fluffer, you will probably be replaced.
The rest of your post reads like such a dumbass low IQ take I cant help you with that.
You seem to have such a one-dimensional understanding of art that there isn't much of a conversation to be had here.

>>6214672
"The ones who have made it in"? I doubt the veracity of these stories, we don't see any credit or any claim from an artist that he willingly gave these corporations his art for free. How the hell do they except me to believe a person told these datamining companies they want to have their soul replicated by a robot?

>>6214672
You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of the point being made in the first place.
You can't just say "Computer, draw a successfull charming Charles M. Schulz style comic strip" and get exactly that.
Charles M. Schulz is the perfect example because while his style is pleasingly simple it wasnt all that unique at the time, but the CONTENT of his work was what made it work.
If you are this small souled you cant imagine ever being creative in any capacity other than being derrivative, then you're fucked. Yes. This is what I was saying.
Also that line you marked is such a fucking stupid obvious PR take lmao.

>>6214602
IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME IF I PUT A SIGNATURE ON MY GENERIC SOULLESS TRASH ART, WOULDNT IT ANON?
>AI steals it
UH OH! MR. STEINBERG, WE HAVE A CASE!!

Stable Diffusion is cheating by using 2 billion references.
Real artists don't use reference. If you use references you are no better than a machine.

>>6214684
>NOOO YOU CANT SAY THAT!! AI THINKS AND USES REFERENCES JUST LIKE US!!!! THEY'RE HUMAN TOO YOU CANT STOP SCIENCE EVEN IF IT KILLS US

>AI
>Not A.I.
>After I made a filter for /v/ thread about this
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM it's almost as if you're trying to piss me off using acronyms you know nobody else uses
/\bA\.?I\.?\b/i;op:only;boards:g,v,3,ic
Keep doomposting about a topic that your only knowledge on is twitter and these threads

>>6214571

>>6214692
>pic rel
i hope the power grid gets eliminated. i hope we return to an era without electricity. no I don't care i might be one of the many who will die because of it. no I don't care our lifespans will shorten because of it. just end this shit already, living is turning into a joke so prolonging its duration is actually a downside

I hope all the faggots who said that ai replacing artists was still 5-10 years away are seeing this
/ic/ was right from the start kek

>>6212083
would twitterfags hate the petition or love it?

>>6214701
It all started going down hill once I made this thread
>>6181513
This is their final hoorah

>>6214571
oh no AI sisters

>>6214699
Wait for general artificial intelligence, it's going to write a line of code and give us the mobile nuclear keys. There can only be benefits from this invention

>>6214702
It needs to be reformulated to be more objective regarding the way these machines use data. I would be up to rewrite the petition

>>6214675
it's obvious you are not from here, you are a tourist trying to fit in

>>6212543
Never forget the time I asked /v/ "hey, I'm going to my AI professor to ask about this, anything you want me to ask"
I got called a retard. One anon said "we aren't talking about this, we're talking about white collar".
Fucking niggers

Furries are safe.

>>6214711
They were /g/faggots. We wouldn't have this thread if it wasn't for the ITurds who don't care about anything but their carreers, believing they will get to be on top of these machines in the years to come. I was legitimately looking to ride the IT tiger before, but without doubt this bubble will pop sooner than expected not only due to AI, but because neural chips write code translated from your fucking thoughts. The digital mining workforce will be reduced to 1% of what it is now

>>6214727
Midjourney is better for that, devs said furries were reportedly evading filters and using it to make porn so they blacklisted the word quickly

>>6214739
>when being associated with cooming saved your soul all along

>>6214593
i agree it's generic but even that doesn't deserve to be touched by AI

>>6214734
I'm a SWEfag myself. But what I do agree is shit is gonna get worse. Still, I think I'll survive the wave if things go well, and maybe be the scientist working on this.
Still I came to /ic/ to draw shitposts, never a job. I don't understand how the central premise of this thread effects most /ic/ artists. At best we expect to get paid sub 100 for a drawing, none of us are here expecting careers out of drawing

>>6214746
That pajeet releasing his opensource model is going to put even porn artists in the same plate as SFW ones though. Someone can pick their portfolio and fine tune the AI to generate sexual content, easily overriding the intended boundaries. I thought these companies would at least try to moderate it at first, mot even I could have predicted this.

>>6214776
I did, because I'm from a third world shithole and I can live decently with only $600

>>6214787
Extremely based fellow 3rdworlder. I'm an (((immigrant)))fag but I still like to keep track what goes on back there.
Much love and blessings towards you anon

>>6214776
>maybe be the scientist working on this.
make world a favor kill yourself
>none of us are here expecting careers out of drawing
everyone did

>>6214791
>make world a favor kill yourself
I'm gonna assume you're not the 3rdworlderbro cause his grammar isn't as bad as an American
>everyone did
No true scotsman argument.

>>6214776
>At best we expect to get paid sub 100 for a drawing
speak for yourself shit head

>>6213279
>>6213288
>>6213304
>Lies and posts some random's website claiming Stability is directly claiming this
Holy fuck are "artists" really this patheric

>>6214776
>I don't understand how the central premise of this thread effects most /ic/ artists
Don't you understand these AIs have the potential to absolutely crush any passion for drawing even as a hobby? Like the bland words used to generate art, art will become no more than an uncountable pile of processed digital waste, a visual nuisance in the years to follow. People will steal styles they like and consider call themselves artists, only for it to have absolutely no meaning. Who is going to benefit from this at all?

>>6214818
I have a garden in my backyard. I could go to the store and food that I'm growing. I don't. Why? Cause the act of gardening itself is great

>>6214818
anon, i know this thread is all doom and gloom but it's not gonna be like so. no one's gonna follow you if you just create quick AI art, because anyone can do that. a lot of people already get shit on by non-artists when they claim to have made "art" through AI

>>6214841
>no one's gonna follow you if you just create quick AI art
You're just wrong. AI prompters already have a following on artstation, r/AIart Reddit and some manage to profit by selling their NFTs made with Diffusion. You're basing your entire point on the fact that you can discern AI art from human art for now. But what about tomorrow? The gap is closing and those oblivious to it are going to make a fool of themselves.

>>6214828
Not everyone can do a garden, I myself wish I had the time and space for botany

>>6214853
>You're just wrong. AI prompters already have a following on artstation, r/AIart Reddit and some manage to profit by selling their NFTs made with Diffusion.
these tards never cared about art in the first place and NFTs...lol that's a money making scheme. those people DEFINITELY never cared about art before, these are the people who invest into crypto and only care about fucking over other people
>You're basing your entire point on the fact that you can discern AI art from human art for now. But what about tomorrow?
I mean a lot of normaltards already can't do that nowadays, because they have small brains. once again these people never cared about art or artists directly, but let's say that you're right and it will come to the point where it will be impossible to discern what's made by AI and humans. well, post your work in progress stages then. a lot of artists already do that.

>>6214861
Ah I see, dismiss my point entirely because you know it refutes your entire argument.

>>6213279
>>6213280
>>6214593
Stable Diffusion's twitter account just got suspended, anyone know if they got mass reported or something?

Regardless this is a win for human artists, seeing that websites like twitter are willing to take action against plagiarism, even though this wont halt the program from working obviously. It's still a good start.
https://twitter.com/StableDiffusion

>>6214828
doing something as a hobby is not the same as doing it professionally, when it is your job you can put much more time into it, you can make it a more major part of your life. Think of who your favourite artists, how many did it just as a hobby, probably not many, if any. If you really care about it a hobby isn't good enough.

>>6214878
I doubt it's down for plagarism, probably just a bunch of people reported it and it got auto banned

>>6214853
>r/AIart Reddit and some manage to profit by selling their NFTs made with Diffusion
So every greedy nigga is gonna scramble and try to replicate some highly publicized insider-trading auction thats supposed to generate interest with suckers and investors and leave them as bagholders?
Nobody but complete fucking retards and corporations will give a shit about AI art.

It's funny to see /ic/ cope and seethe this hard when mediocre artists have most to gain from this since the pros are the ones that will have to fear for their industry jobs.
Some random asshole /ic/ crab from bolivia who draws wonky art with soul and freelances for a few pesos?
Will probably get even more interaction now, since all of the big pros will end up looking indistinguishable from the AI art that was fed with their artstation profiles.
This will be the time to shine for wonky, unconventional and weird artists.

>>6214571
>seething artists try to stop the future
Holy cope. Its over now that this is open source. It will only get better too

>>6214890
I'm not an artist nor do I want to learn art. but you tech faggots should kill yourself together with your abominations and the rest of the "i fucking love science" bugmen

>>6214886
You're probably right, as much as I'd love to believe it's true. Where in the rules would it specify that specifically.

"using AI generated artwork, from a database that was taught by already existing artists, and then posting the generated work, without the permission or consent of the individual of the original artwork, is against our TOS."

Sounds way to specific to me.
>>6214571
oops, didn't realize someone already posted it.
>>6214578
lmfao.

So what should I do if I'm a /beg/, my job isn't getting replaced because I'm not good enough but is this basically going to make drawing for profit impossible or at least extremely limited? Should I just start drawing only for fun without caring about improvement like other hobbies? Is this whole thing just outrage baiting and the chance of AI replacing humans in any meaningful way is low?

>>6214571
>>6214878
I literally just came here to laugh at you, tech fags. Even if the account is unsuspended by tomorrow, I'll still consider this an absolute win, you, disgusting, revolting, repulsive, sickening, abhorrent, slimy, grease filled, piss drinking, mouth breathing, pond scum slurping, absolute, WANKERS! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>6214905
>Is this whole thing just outrage baiting and the chance of AI replacing humans in any meaningful way is low?
You have no seen a single article, journal entry, posted here. If you really want the truth, don't ask retard spammers, email professors in your area or go to them
>Should I just start drawing only for fun without caring about improvement like other hobbies
Yes. Or if you want profit be a VN artist

>>6214905
I'd recommend just continuing as a hobby, while also picking up other real life skills, (preferably those that AI cannot replace), like hiking, exercising, biking, fishing, collecting things, like stamps or coins or whatever, etc.

And just keep drawing as a background hobby, drawing as a hobby is something a robot can never take away from you. Because even though AI artwork isn't perfect, it most likely will be indistinguishable from humans in the next 5-7 years.

>>6214905
Here's the only sensible take in a sea of cope and seethe:
If you enjoy art, keep doing it. Do it for yourself primarily. Getting fame/clout and money are incredibly bad motivators. Even before this AI shit in the last few years at least one art station darling killed himself and another burned out so hard from having to keep up that he left the industry with a huge tantrum.
Chances are if you create stuff you like that you'll end up making meaningful connections with people who like your art for what it communicates to them.
That's a healther mindset to getting into art than doing it for clout or money.
On the other hand if clout or money are your primary motivations, just grind hard and try to get an edge over the AI and find it's blind spots.
Dunno if you'll be trying to catch up with it forever if you go that route.

>>6214905
>Should I just start drawing only for fun
you should've had this mindset from the start regardless of AI or no AI
> without caring about improvement like other hobbies
I'd say you should seek to improve but without thinking too hard about your current status of improvement. I'm not an artist, but take it from someone who spent 1 year learning guitar. I got over the initial trash, tedious and boring stages by doing what needs to be done without worrying about the rate of improvement

>>6214916
>(preferably those that AI cannot replace), like hiking, exercising, biking, fishing, collecting things, like stamps or coins or whatever, etc.
No one tell him

>>6214907
It will just piss the creator off even more
Hope you enjoy open source completely fucking you over kek

>>6214927

>>6214925
Really? Well, I for one welcome our new hiking robot companion overlords, maybe they can have built in bearspray to protect our asses from mountain lions or bears?

>>6214934
>elites are going to use AI to produce the innermost pleasures in the minds of consoomers and leave them eternally plugged to the metaverse
>elites are going to use AI to produce the innermost nightmares in the minds of agitators and leave us eternally mentally broken

RIP furry artists Stable Diffusion coming for them comm artists

>>6214727
>furries are safe
oh nononono your major source of commission revenue is gonna go down the DRAIN now AHAHAHAHA

The guy I follow on Twitter, he's an average artist, he's been completely mindbroken by this AI shit. He got a subscription to midjourney and has been posting nothing but AI creations for the last few days with his depressing comments mostly about how accurate it is and how it is almost exactly how he imagined when he fed ideas to the AI. I think he stopped drawing completely.

Thing is, I think artists like him, average artists, nothing special, just guys with their thing they love to draw, are completely doomed. In the future there will be like a dozen of brilliant human artists on top, thousands of bad artists doing your regular stick people art for the memes, and an absolute fucking wasteland of nothingness in between. Mediocrity is most certainly doomed. People who are trying to get to the top are most likely doomed. Lazy yet talanted people are doomed for sure.

>>6211859

wow i am glad i listened to my parents and got my comp sci degree instead of going to art school. it was a miserable 4 years but thats nothing compared to a miserable 40 as an artist noone needs

>>6215103
I did the same thing. it was miserable 3 years, I despised it, and now I despise it even more. fuck techfaggots

>>6215104

adderall + gym membership + social life + not caring about career made the whole thing alright for me. wake up, pop an addie, think hard for 4 hours, draw, play some games, fake your way through meetings and your done.

>>6215094
went to open those images at high res. the cat one is pretty gross and the armored dog looks cheap as fuck

t. furfag of 10 years

>>6215103
You're the next on the chopping block. AI writing a software and eventually an AI is the next logical thing. You just have, eh, roughly 7-10 more years than the artfags have

>>6215100
The fag couldn't even bother using burner accounts to get free discord generations instead of paying for his nemesis? I don't know what to say about that, but yes the gap has appeared and it will just keep growing. The only artists who agmi will be those who have made a name for them already, just like the niche tailors who managed to secure top G clients as their customers thanks to their prestige and indications.

>https://twitter.com/RaphDeslandes/status/1558876639429361667
oh no no no AI bros. I thought our hecking science replicates brains not photobashes pictures together

>>6213868
It doesn't matter how many prompts you feed some stupid fuckin robot, you're not the one making the art, the AI is

>>6214346
>today everything is useless, literally everything, if tomorrow some psychopath finds and kills all the key developers, it won't change anything either

>>6214602
Give me your address so i can bash your skull in you AI loving nigger

>>6215182
> if tomorrow some psychopath finds and kills all the key developers
oh no, what a tragedy that would be!

quick reminder but artists panicked when the camera was invented bc up until that point everyone was just getting closer and closer to realism. turns out all the hub bub was for nothing and artists could paint soup cans, squares or even just put a toilet out there and be good artists.

i would stop seething and recommending learning to cope. maybe get some soup cans, toilets or pipes and see what inspiration hits you

>>6214887
>Oy vey the money
This is what you dont understand you slimy jew, theres more to making art than making mcdonalds tier art for a few bucks

>>6215188
the difference with the camera is that creativity was still untouched by technology. There was a place for creatives to go, like creating surrealism or some other shit, and creative effort was still required for both photography and drawing/painting to make it look good. It didn't replace creativity, but it did create a new medium. AI doesn't create a new medium, it replacing it entirely. There is no where else for creatives to go, and even if there was, some pajeet in california can just create another ai to replace them. fuck off with your shill

>>6215188
Anon the implication as a whole is bigger than this. They're actively trying to replace most fields with AI, what good is "progress" if the progress we make comes at the cost of our humanity. We were meant to do more than just be subscription farms for corps. The worst of all is that the average person seems to be embracing this "cocoon" outlook on humanity and that our endgame is to birth some soulless demonic ai to be what pushes forward. Its insulting on an existential level

The mistake you artfags made was posting your works online. You thought thought you've been getting a clot, getting following, getting money but all you did is providing the AI with food and now you raised a bear that will eat you. You sold your future for the instant gratification

>>6215196
>We were meant to do more than just be subscription farms for corps.

theres literally no sane reason to think this is fact.

there is also nothing stopping the luddites from living on communes together. you can trade your sonic fan art sketchbook to the commune scribe in exchange for a hand written copy of the latest manga or w/e. you can still be an artist, just in a different way.

>>6215194
plenty of places for creatives to go, you just havent found them yet. the ones that do will be exalted as visionaries. there will be an AI art backlash soon, the public will get bored with it and want authenticity. the major limiting factor for it right now is resolution so you can do shit like make 200 foot murals or w/e.

>>6215196
this. i have been freaking out about AI for 10 years now, and about AI art only recently. i do not understand how so many people are enticed about the idea of being replaced. do they think they'll live like the Jetsons or something

>>6215201
>there is also nothing stopping the luddites from living on communes together. you can trade your sonic fan art sketchbook to the commune scribe in exchange for a hand written copy of the latest manga or w/e. you can still be an artist, just in a different way.
oh no, the retarded schizo just woke up. luddites would hate photoshop. no one here hates photoshop you fucking retard, they hate being replaced period. luddites hate cars and like horses, but neither of those eliminate drivers unlike AI. just put a bullet through your skull

>>6215197
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>>6215197
>You thought thought you've been getting a clot, getting following, getting money but all you did is providing the AI
I mean they did get all of those too, retard
>You sold your future for the instant gratification
learning a skill for decades and sharing it with people isn't "instant gratification" you stupid fuck. art is the exact opposite of that, it's the activity with the most long term gratification in the world. do you think before you use words, or are you using them for shock value?

>>6215215
>learning a skill for decades and sharing it with people isn't "instant gratification"
Learning a skill wasn't a mistake
Posting works online for the instant gratification was

>>6215217
>Posting works online for the instant gratification was
and how am I supposed to see their works if they're not sharing them? are they supposed to draw only for themselves or what? it's time to use that brain bud

>>6215203
>yoo this will be so exciting I'm looking forward to seeing how this tech evolves the future! Amazing!!!
Why have I seen so many soiartists say this, is the sense of danger completely alien to them? Do they believe future will be like in star wars or wall-e? Fucking sheep

>>6215218
>and how am I supposed to see their works if they're not sharing them? are they supposed to draw only for themselves or what?
Thats the question you should really think hard about because the answer might just save you

>>6215220
it's just artists who also happen to have the normie excitement for every new technology
>>6215222
save me from what? I'm not an artist you cuck, I am here only because I enjoy spending my time around art communities. I wouldn't be here if artists wouldn't share their art

>>6215177
Kek the "AI art is legit kys" optics are crumbling in real time. The longer this drags on, the more light will be shed on the crimes of the sneaky ITjeets. Twitter egomaniacs specifically have everything to lose and nothing to win from AI replicating them, so they'll just keep devoting more of their time and influence into persecuting them

>>6215230
>techfags targeting a group of people who have nothing to lose
this will be fun to watch play out

>>6215211

95% of artists out there are playing with this to see how it can improve their workflow. you are acting like a hysterical woman.

>>6215238
>improve workflow
as in, generating an image with art stolen from other artists and then painting over it?

>>6215238
>improving workflow
anon there's not going to be a workflow anymore

>>6215247
>>6215243

the novelty of ai art will fade, normies will want to show their sophistication by being able identify "real" art and only flyover state thomas kinkade boomers will giggle with delight at the latest "gorgeous sunset behind quaint cottage in the style of norman rockwell" promps

you'll have to adapt like artists have done for all of human history. maybe, gasp, you'll learn2code and create something never seen b4. or maybe u can be a prompt engineer and learn how to elicit the best images with text and curate a library of them. possibilities are endless. not the end of the world.

>>6215247
Kek this. There are entire teams that work towards judging portfolios before hiring an artist. But now they don't even have a metric to follow anymore. Who's just showing AI art? Who's tracing from AI? Who is legit? Does it even matter? I can't believe how short sighted are the ones who thought this would somehow add value to their portfolio

>>6215256
There will be no need to adapt this time, because there will be no passion in doing art anymore. Are you looking to build a library of what? Trigger prompts? Lmao if the art world ends up this way then I'll be glad none of these "artists" are paid anymore, after all you can just become one by using his text.

>see ai artwork
>its either some image with pokemon but real type of rendering or something that people would refer to as kitsch
I think soulbros are safe