/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6214150
Video ref:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_j9cSiMolE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKJkKnaImic

>He uses a pencil sharpener to sharpen his pencils

>>6214162
>he doesn't eat pencils and draw with the graphite stuck to his tongue
ngmi

>He doesn't use crayons

What is the correct way to sharpen charcoal pencils? I bought a pack of graphite pencils but they came with three charcoal pencils as a bonus. None of them have the tip exposed so I assume there's a specific way you're supposed to sharpen them.

>>6214156
Nobody is attempting your OP pic might as well turn this thread into anime.

>>6214095
>>6214112
Thank you very much, I will keep doing that. I appreciate the thoughtful critique.

>he doesn't mix animal fat, charcoal and dirt and blow it onto cave walls to create his art

>>6212502
>>6212694
>>6212984
>>6213034
Very nice keep it up

>>6214169
He's a seething retard. Previous thread is still on page one, kek.

>>6214150
This is a real photo? Shit looks edited.

>>6214175
Imo he should stop using animals with fur and feathers as the challenge. Most of the people who come here are /prebegs/ and trying to draw something difficult from the start is a surefire way to make people give up. Insects and reptiles are much better animal subjects for inspiring confidence in beginners.

>>6214179
>jpg, 700kb
Yup, it's a shit quality one.

>>6214183
Agreed, faggot OP has no consideration for /beg/s
Here's a better reference if you want to use it.

>>6214169
Embarrassing cope, idiot.

>discordcuck is so mad he's already started seething and samefagging several times already
Still not posting your discord sticky in the OP, dumbshit.

Who keeps on taking keys to drawing out of the op? It's literally the best beginner book.

Never asked you to you illiterate fucking retard
>everyone I don't like is a samefag
Kek

Finished FWAP today. Probably took me eitght months but I was studying from other resources at the same time.

Going to mess around for a bit then do Bridgeman I think.

>>6214207
Good job, studying Bridgeman is a bit weird, I'd look up Prokos videos on how to study his books.

>>6214207
nice clean lines

>>6214196
based discord destroyer

>>6214207
kino
>>6214238
soulless coom

>>6214242
this

>>6214242
>soulless coom
zero shits given fag

Might seem like a retarded question, but I want to transition to digital and try my hands on painting (I've only drawn so far, pic related) but I have no idea where to start?
Whats a good source on learning how to paint? I want to start painting in real life as well, either with oil or watercolor but right now I need to wait until next year with due to various reasons

>>6214242
>>6214243
>anon posts work with better anatomy than most who post in the thread and actually trying to cosntruct thigs correctly
>its coom
>art disregarded time to shitpost
every fucking time lmao crabs keep seething

>>6214255
don't care still soulless

>>6214245
>noooo
>you must draw the way I want you to draw!
Based, funny how those fucking retards are too afraid to post their own work, I guarantee they don't draw. Keep doing your thing anon, you're going to make it
>>6214249
Look up James Gurning books, specifically TRIADS: Painting with Three Colors and Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter.

>>6214255
>anon posts work with better anatomy than most who post in the thread
It's a /beg/ thread.

>>6214271
thats why i said better than most o this thread

>>6214271
And? He still posted his work, unlike the two other cowards.

>>6214249
Gurney is a great recommendation as anon said above. I also recommend 3D Total's Color and Light book.

>>6214274
Yeah, but I mean, a lot of people have better anatomy than the people in a /beg/ thread so it's kinda irrelevant. It's honestly expected if anything. While "souls" is a meme, he probably just means it looks boring and generic. But art is subjective, so someone elses opinion doesn't really matter.

>>6214269
>>6214277
Alright, ill check it out. Thanks anons!

It's my first day drawing and I already draw heads better than the rest of you.

>>6214319
Show those heads off then, tryhard.

>>6214320
I don't need to, idiot.

Do you hold your pencil like this?
Are you supposed to use the same grip on a tablet stylus?

Saren doodle from imagination

>>6214323
>Do you hold your pencil like this?
Depends on what I'm drawing and what techniques are needed to get there. That's a pretty common go-to grip though yeah.
I generally hold mine with the pencil resting between my pointer and middle finger.

>Are you supposed to use the same grip on a tablet stylus?
No. You use grips like that with pencil to keep your dumb ass hand off the page and prevent smudging. There's value to holding pencils in different ways to render different textures, but that's with analog medium.
Stylus and tablet is like smashing rocks together. It requires none of the subtlety that real mediums do.

>>6214325
Fucking Kek
Reminder if the faggots reply to this without their own drawing they're certified ngmi's

>>6214333
>N
SAREN, NO!

Taking another break from studying, longer one because I wanted this one to feel finished.
even if I cheaped out on the veins and arm detail.

>>6214207
>8 months of study but no finished artwork
why are begs like this?

I FUCKING LOVE DRAWING

>>6214359
NOOOOOOOOOOOO. DON'T DRAW. DO NOT RESIST THE CRABS. YOU MUST GIVE UP AND JOIN THE CRABS

>>6214358
pyw faggot crab

>>6214363
You know he won't.

>>6214361
I WILL DRAW, AND CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO LEARN MORE EACH DAY
I WILL LEARN TO DRAW BEAUTIFUL BACKGROUNDS, FANTASTIC COMPOSITION, AND ANIMATE LIKE THE BEST OF THEM
I WILL DRAW MY WAIFU(S) GETTING RAILED BY ME
I WILL IGNORE ALL FAGGOT CRABS
and most importantly
I WILL SUPPORT THOSE WHO ARE BEHIND ME IN PROGRESS AND RAISE THEM UP TO ART CHAD STATUS

I've been drawing for two entire days and I'm starting to think I'm ngmi

>>6214387
If you think you won't, you won't. If you think you will, you will. Your fate is yours and yours alone.

>>6214387
>I've been drawing for two entire days
art is one of the hardest skills any one person can learn, just take it day by day and as long as you're learning something you'll be golden and you're almost guaranteed to learn something new every single day

>>6214387
>2 days
That's literally nothing
Come back ina year

>>6214387
you are only ngmi if you think you are ngmi cast away all doubts and believe in yourself wagmi

>>6214335
>Stylus and tablet is like smashing rocks together. It requires none of the subtlety that real mediums do.
Spoken like someone who hasn't used a tablet. Granted not all of them are equipped with pressure, tilt and rotation sensitivity (though these days most at least have pressure) As someone who worked with traditional media for decades before transitioning to digital, there's no less nuance to digital media.

>>6214387
>two days
*laughs*
try two years

>>6214419
>emoting
u shouldnt have done that *unzips dick* now i must punish you *teleports behind u* nice try, kid, but this is the end *buttfucks you* *panting* hah, hah, hah, now for my final attack *spurts a bucket of cum inside u causing u to die* pssssh, nothin' personell, kid

>>6214407
nuance in results is not nuance in execution

>>6214441
when will you actually draw something

>>6214450
What do you mean? Those are drawings.

>>6214454
i mean he's capable of going beyond studies already

>>6214454
idiot

>>6214457
Like finished work? I've made finished work and posted it before.
>>6214458
Calm down

When will tomorrow come?

>>6214191
satan's messy line bug from HELL

>>6214493
Very based. Lines are a little scratchy, might suggest working on line control.

>>6214493
gmi

This is probably the most beg post in a while, but I struggle greatly with reflected light and I can't seem to make it realistic even with reference.

>>6214549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vapw6n6FyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_tzYZXgiP8

>>6214441
are you using reference?

>>6214592
Yes, its from the anatomy for artists book

>>6214150
Cute Kot

>>6214465
which one? I'm curious

>>6214281
you taking a crab comment too seriously
lack of soul is just a meme to say its shit aswell as saying soul means its bad but you want to pretend its good

>>6214424
God I wish that was me

>>6214438
I'm literally talking about nuance in execution. Sure, if you only use hard round with pressure opacity and nothing else there isn't much nuance, but that's like saying traditional media doesn't have much nuance because drawing with a fineliner on bristol board doesn't have much nuance.

>>6214604
The authors name goes by tomfoxdraws, you can find a copy in the /ic/ MEGA book thread >>6201736
Another suggestion would be anything made by Morpho

how do shade this?

>>6214620
bucket tool a gradiant

>>6214621
but it will look bad

if you play ram i hope your bussy explodes

>>6214635
It already does, so live a little

Not as much detail put into this one as the other thing, but honestly just found myself deciding to not study as hard today and just try cool stuff with a break day for what remains of free time.
Cheaped out on the sword most noticeable, but I'll come back to this.

>>6214677
how do make better please

>>6214344
why not just finish the lower body instead of making him a floating torso?

>>6214710
lower body probably wouldn't be doing anything interesting anyways no point

>>6214712
that's not true, anything's better than a floating torso

>>6214710
You have a point there, but let's say everything on the lower left side is obscured by darkness.
Light coming from his finger tips and aura that flows around his form, if you notice there's slight indication on a left bottom part but on the darker half it's obscured.
Probably should have put more effort into it but, yeah... Most of the attention was supposed to go to his hand mostly then everything else, I'd need to have better value control to darken the bottom half and then everything else to not lose focus if this makes sense to you.
These were my /beg/ thoughts.

This gesture made me laugh.

>>6214618
I mean your finished stuff

>>6214620
use it as a template for rendering studies based on an artist you like, ps careful posting things that look too much like loli without a catbox link
https://files.catbox.moe/icfx1l.png

having fun with trad

Hello BEGs, today way a beg discord meltdown. Pretty funny. The TLDR
>random beg draws (very beg looking) picture
>random mod sees it and claims its caricature of his own style
>kicks the beg artists
>everybody is surprised pikatchu face
>mod deletes all channels and refuses to elaborate
Remember BEGs, even if your art suck it STILL has power, power to destroy human minds psyche

>>6214758
i am not scat expert, but doesnt shit come from anus instead of vagina?
>>6214723
Hello fellow beg, can you explain to me what use gesture has and what is the point of training it? To me it seems like complete meme
>>6214620
First try to shade it and THEN ask for feedback
>>6214549
idk it looks okay to me
>>6214387
1. even drawing on right side of the brain book claims you need at least 5 days (8*5=40 hours) to see improvement
2. you forgot to PYW
>>6214359
>claims to love drawing
>doesnt PYW
I dont believe you anon
>>6214323
Use whatever grip which suits your needs. Personally i recommend getting pen grip and slapping it on your stylus, it helped me to solve starting carpal tunnel
>>6214207
Was the loomis fun worth it anon?
>>6214168
According to google with a knife and sand paper lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUAX2HNXDc

>>6214735
I see mixed up the reply, here's some of the more completed drawings I made this year. It's tiring being berated over drawing studies, considering studying is what's ultimately going to help me progress and the idea that I don't draw anything else is kind of stupid. I don't post all my drawings on /ic/, I usually just post my studies here because
>Use this thread instead of making new threads or """post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises."""
Is literally what's being instructed by the OP.

>>6214785
>the story
hahahaha what the fuck mods are even lower than /beg/s.

Practiced a bunch today and doodled a couple of my characters using the Keep Notes app

>type "Lynx" into dall-e
>get a better result than what 99% of the thread will manage in 3 years of 6 hours/day practice
IT'S OVER

>>6214785
Quick sketch isn't really something you study for the sake of quick sketch, its more a way of practicing what you know. Like you might learn a piece of construction or a new way of measuring, but if you stop there you are just going to forget it. By doing say ten quick sketches and applying the technique you can turn it into an automatic habit that you will never forget.

Also the first few minutes of drawing generally have the most impact on the final result so just doing a bunch of quick sketch is a way to practice that. I'm just setting up interesting volumes that look plausibly correct and could be taken further if I wanted.

Can jannies blacklist the word ai already?

>>6214785
>Remember BEGs, even if your art suck it STILL has power, power to destroy human minds psyche
Remember, the mods DO IT FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6214191
wtf is this thing anyway
>>6214785
>To me it seems like complete meme
it's definitely not a meme, even the beggiest of begs can see the difference between a figure drawn with gesture in mind vs without

>>6214738
how should i approach a less diffused/ cell-shaded-like render like picrel without looking flat?
this was my attemp: https://files.catbox.moe/p1fizx.png

>>6214903
Like the pic you posted, right? Notice the lack of soft edges apart from colour gradients (blush and areolae). Also pay attention to stuff like the rim lighting. Make note of the primary light source: Behind and a bit above the viewer, though there are some inconsistencies around her legs. This kind of light source (coming from roughly the same direction as the POV) can be hard to make look good and often results in "pillow shading," and if you pay close attention to this image you can see some tactics to overcome that (the inconsistent light direction on the legs actually helps, where it seems to be coming from the left on her thighs and right on her calves so at a glance it's processed as directional light; so does her pose, with the bottom part of her arms being shaded and her hat casting a shadow on her face, driving home that the light isn't coming from the viewer but a bit above them; strictly speaking some shadows are missing here, though I'd say it's good enough).

What you did looks closer to the kind of shading I did, which was based on a particular piece and actually requires a softer edge on the shadow to look right (as well as a bit of indirect/rim light and a faint specular in the middle of the core shadow- I was studying a loli artist who likes drawing bath and sauna scenes that day, and naturally the skin he renders usually looks a little wet, though he doesn't usually draw sweat beads or trails). For good shadow _shapes,_ do them on a separate layer, and use an eraser to manipulate the shape. Try using that to define subtle interior contours (where they would actually be, of course), like around the bottom of the ribs and the crease in her belly going toward her bellybutton in the reference pic you posted. Also don't be afraid to colourpick (use the eyedropper) to see how the shadows and highlights in someone's art relate to the base tone, and pay close attention to little details like the speculars (white core lights) on her thighs.

>>6214785
It should be a lesson to you to rise above discord.

>>6214785
>gesture
Why don't you give it a try? You'll see its value very quickly. It's extremely low-investment.

Anyway it has a LOT of benefits and basically trains every fundie at once, except colour theory.
>as you get better at quickly eyeballing proportions and lines of action/force, you naturally pick up better anatomy
>makes you recognise attractive compositional elements and get better at composition rapidly (what you learn from gesture in this regard will apply even if you don't plan on drawing humans much in the long run)
>improves your faculty for accurate observation- we tend to draw human figures "straightened out" and gesture teaches you not to do that, which "breaks in" the skill of seeing things as they are and not as symbols
>since you do them quickly (usually with a timer going), it forces you to learn better line control instead of repeating the same line until it's right
>it works as a wrist stretch/warmup, removes creative blocks, etc; basically it gets you drawing in a low-investment way that doesn't require inspiration, confidence or anything else
And so on. It's like the ultimate iterative practice.

>>6214798
>endless torso construction studies guy is a fischl chad
based, very worried I might miss her outfit cus my laptop charging port is broken

How do I develop a soulful non-realistic proportioned art style?

>>6214975
learn realism first, then stylize

>>6214948
i think i kinda get it, what do you think?
https://files.catbox.moe/8ii57m.png

>>6214987
I'm decent at realistic proportions, I can't really grasp how to stylize and make it look right though

vmrss

>>6214992
I did a quick example in the meantime
https://files.catbox.moe/1j3svt.png
You're on the right track. Note the line above her mons pubis in the ref is both much higher in the ref (ignore her belt), and only visible because her torso is bent forward and the light accentuates it. Note the kinds of shapes used too- Long, tapering streaks for highlights and shadows themselves, and a lot of curves outward from the core of the forms to make them look more three-dimensional.

Is drawabox good?
I see alots of people complain to it

>>6214993
Kicdoc is one of my favorite artists. Nta but just study your favorite stylized artists.

You’ll pick up on subtle stuff. Like big hands and big feet go well with skinny lanky figures. Small hands and small feet usually go with chunky / fat characters. Long torsos need even longer legs. Short/no torsos can pair with thick asses and thicc thighs. After doing a lot of studies you will develop a certain taste, and you end up fixing all your drawings until they ‘look right’ which just ends up matching your taste.

>>6215032
It'a pure autism.

>>6215033
Neat, thanks
And yeah kicdoc is one of my favorites too

>>6215034
Why?

>>6215039
draw 200+ boxes and you will know

>>6215040
>draws 200 boxes
>give up drawing
yes

>>6215040
So, no 200+ box, yes?
But when i try organic perspective, its look kinda fucked

>>6215039
Basically it'll kill any desire you have to draw when it tells you to draw 250+ fucking boxes.

>>6215040
At least there is some way to improve your drawimg
I waste 3 month to trying figure out how to make gesture

>>6215047
Meh, not the worst thing ever
I used to fill the page with only circle and ellipse for 2 whole month

>>6215046
do perspective made easy by norling, and do the problems.
>>6215048
there is a thread for that
and hamptom figure drawing is nice

>>6215046
>>6215040
>>6215047
You would be better off making 250 drawings of whatever it is you actually want to draw.

250 anime heads
250 breasts
250 penises
250 prolapsed anuses

You get the idea. I fear the man that has done 1 kick 10000 times

>>6215050
Yeah, i can work from head to butt
But when from butt to leg, its fucked
Its feel unbalanced, and not cohort

>>6215060
that's why, go to that thread, show them your problem and ask how to get better, or better yet, look at how others aproach the same problem

redraw 1

>>6214995
i like it but it's just a floating head

>>6215071
I love your drawings

Tried to make an original sketch.
Any problems?

>>6215053
Can you describe the world after learning to draw perspective? Does everything about how you approach drawing change drastically? Is it worth it?

>>6215050
>do perspective made easy by norling,
Dumb loomisbabby. Norling is shit.

>>6215053
He needs to draw a full illustration every day for 100 days. If he can't do that, then he most certainly can't do 250 heads, 250 breats, 250 penises, 250 prolapsed anuses. This anon thinks he can weasel by drawing boxes without purpose.

>>6214255
>literal rhythmless sausage limbs
>praising the anatomy
lol

>>6215108
I'm going to guess this is Darkseid right?
Just in an unconventional form I can't really comment on.

>>6215092
Drawing a box doesn’t help you put shit into the box. Sure you can draw a box in a scene and THINK about where the character goes in, but when the rubber hits the road and you have to actually DRAW the character in the box, there is no amount of boxes that will help you draw that figure in the box.

All the tutorials skip to the end where the figure is perfectly in the box in perspective and perfectly proportioned. But they skipped the part where they draw 100k figures and not 100k boxes.

Yes, you can reverse engineer a figure into box primitives. But nobody is building the figure in the box out of primitives. At the point where you have enough skill to do that, you didn’t need to build it from primitives.

Drawing a box is like drawing a floating eyeball. One day you will need to draw the rest of the face, and you’ll be fucked. Then you’ll need to draw the rest of the head, and you’ll be fucked again, then you’ll need to draw the rest of the body, and you’ll be fucked again, then you’ll need to put the body in a chair, and you’ll be fucked again, then you’ll need to put in the background, and you’ll be fucked again.

This guy knows >>6215102 what i am talking about.

Drawing 250 boxes takes about 1 hour what’s next?

Also, you don’t need to learn perspective from a book. You just need to know when you have to fix your drawing when it looks wonky, and you need to know when you can’t fix it and move onto the next drawing.

>>6215126
Shut up and help me >>6215089

>>6215132
What do you want? It’s just a sketch. And you only made one sketch.

In my opinion, the purpose of a sketch is to practice a fundamental or skill so you should have made 30 sketches practicing your skill. OR the sketch is to flush out an idea, so you should have made 30 sketches iterating on your idea.

In either case, make a finished piece. Or atleast ink it, or draw in pen with no undersketch instead of pencil, or draw her from different angles with different expressions, or draw the rest of her body, or draw her in a comic, or draw her in a scene, or color it.

Your lack of (You)s and replies should have been enough of an indication that you should do more.

But at least you didn’t draw a box

soljer
idk what to put next to him

>>6214156
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!

>>6215113
Yeah, it's him. I like to imagine he is using this form to try to appeal to humanity paternal instincts.

>>6215146
Kek, as an older person I liked this reference.

Wanted to try drawing people from behind, used stock photos as reference. Spent more time on the right than the left, about 40 minutes altogether

>>6215148
I see, not the most wacky thing Darkseid has done for sure and I see what you mean, I couldn't bring myself to harm something in that form unless absolutely necessary.

>>6215102
Interesting,
Could you tel me what i need to draw illustration, and who i need to copy?

>>6215089
It’s trannime.
There’s your problem

from a reference, 20 minutes. I think once I start doing these with my display tablet with the reference next to my drawing my accuracy will go up. Currently they get a little wonky in certain areas (shoulders/traps here are off from the model and face is a bit thin)

>>6215249
looks like i fucked up the crossing of the arms too, i was too focused on proportion causing me to misalign one of the hands.

rate my Wormwaifu

>>6215255
how does a worm wear a bikini

>>6215261
big flaw, i need to rework the design

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WRONG THREAD
BLIND FUCKING RETARD

Cylinders are fucking impossible. My eyes are so terrible I can't even gauge the proper angle of the center line to make sure it's perpendicular.

>>6214806
How did you make this?

Any advice appreciated.

>>6214150
Why can’t this just be the fucking draw thread. Why did you fags have to systematically kill off /draw/

>>6215390
Because you niggers just keep chasing begs away

>>6215390
I'll go check out /draw/ if you want, but I'm not that good, original nor have the time to draw every day.
Sounds silly doesn't it?

>>6215394
>>6215404
Oh I see, it was killed off out of jealousy and spite. I hope all you begs just give up. That is my worst punishment for you.

>>6215408

>>6214785
>discord
fuck off

Any advice and or criticism will be helpful. I only sketch with pencil so it was incredibly hard to do it with a ball point pen because I couldn't correct my mistakes. It was a fun experience tho, it took me about 15 minutes.

>>6215239
this

>>6215408
>jealously
>spite
I don't use anything but /beg/ because I'm a beginner.
I don't care about off site/social media app drama, I only use 4chan.
Fuck if I know why things aren't going the way you want dude.

>>6214785
>Hello BEGs, today way a beg discord meltdown. Pretty funny. The TLDR
>>random beg draws (very beg looking) picture
>>random mod sees it and claims its caricature of his own style
>>kicks the beg artists
>>everybody is surprised pikatchu face
>>mod deletes all channels and refuses to elaborate
>Remember BEGs, even if your art suck it STILL has power, power to destroy human minds psyche
kek

What no reference sheet does to an mf.
Created this masterpiss in 30 minutes.
Please tell me something that helps with digital, i almost never do it nor paint irl.

>>6215429
and obviously still didn't post it right. My autism is immense

>>6215281
well where's your major axis?

>>6215379
Use references, grind more figure drawing maybe add an outer outline on things you want to pop like the body
>>6215431
Looks alright, fuck around with blending maybe?
Add some small details here and there too

any crits?

>>6215452
Nah man looks really good to me.
Are you going to try and paint them?

>>6215433
It doesn't make much of a difference if I draw the major axis or not

Help I think I may be retarded I don’t know how to paint, I unironically don’t know what to do, which cokours to pick and how to blend them holy shit I’m fucking braindead

My eyes are such garbage

ok libtards, tomorrow i start grinding loomis for two or three hours a day again. i gave up a year ago after i had a severe manic episode which led me to pursue other things. i am starting tomorrow evening when the moon goes into ashwini. my goals are twofold.
1. learn to draw faces well (this is extremely hard and takes thousands of hours)
2. learn to paint (i have no idea how long this takes)

since the moon is in ashwini it should go well.

>>6214785
How does one get access to the beg discord?

>>6215469
i see your problem. Unless you are doing perspective, one end of a cylinder will always be the same size as the other, so just
>draw an oval
>ctrl+c+V
>put it on another end of the cyllinder
>merge layers
>connect circles
>voom
for perspective just know which side is closer to make that circle slightly bigger.

why do people hate on loomis

>>6215473
looks way better but you squish the circles a tiny bit too hard

>>6215472
I'm saying it's skewed. Both the lines and the ellipses. My eyes are shit at measuring the angle of lines. And I am trying to do perspective stuff.

>>6215475
Even with a pencil, I'm still terrible at drawing wider ellipses. I literally cannot draw circles even though I practice them almost every day

>>6215478
use arm not hand you angloid, it's like shooting a crossbow, you should know out of all people.

What is this style of font called?

>>6215484
it's literally two fonts overlayed, ask /lit/ they should know this shit , the problem being rallying them up to tell you what they know might be problematic

Help I don't know the process. How do I learn to render?

>>6214150

>>6215495
What's the point of this post ai tranny?

>>6215474
Because they're ngmi

>>6215045
If you can't 200 of the most basic, easy to draw shit that's fundamental to all construction, then ngmi

>>6215489
1. pick easy subject
2. sex is not an easy subject to paint
3. select where your shadow ends (the one with fake darker color)
4. select where your light part begins (the one with actual real color)
5. paint along the terminator
6.repeat 1-5 untill mastered
>inb4 i don't understand
yes you do now faggot, get out there and do something productive

>>6215032
It teaches you solid fundamentals based on good books but a lot of retards just grind it and give up

>>6215053
The point is to learn how to construct primitives in perspective and think in 3d you mongoloid

>>6215487
Thanks! Will go there

>>6215471
you have to be very sneaky about it
https://discord.gg/tJcJZGxy

>>6215467
Please respond

>>6215513
Stop using colours retard and start of with greyscale

>>6215513
>asks vague question about a complex topic with plenty of nuance that takes year to get /int/ at and is hard to even explain in words
>why no reply? >(
retard just search youtube for tutorials if your question is so vague
if you want an actual answer thats helpful, then limit your question to 1 maybe 2 specific things

>>6215470
I'll put my moonhead in your ashwini if you catch my drift
Good luck and keep at it

>>6215505
What's an easy subject?

Hello /beg/
I’m a 31 y/o faggot who has decided out of the blue he wants to learn how paint/draw landscapes, in the fashion of mtg cards.
I’m completely new to art so I don’t know where to start.

Most beginner guides are focused in learning figure drawing but I want to create landscapes. Could you offer me some guidance?

Thanks

>>6215530
Also I’m not sure if it’s important but I will be using an iPad for this

>>6215526
Thanks. You can fuck me when I am good and I will draw you afterwards.

I can't draw a very specific type of face in a specific angle from this Loomis book and I can't get over it.

anyone? >>6215417

>>6215551
read drawabox lesson 5

>>6215530
Keys to Drawing to learn observation then go to Marco Bucci for painting
after that just go for any landscape specific resource

>Blending?
>who's he?

>>6215572
Looks great! How much time do you usually use for a study like this? I'm not at this level yet so Im a bit curious

>>6215534
Deal.

>>6215572
Looks literally like that reference photo. Excellent colors, perfectly done three dimensions, beard is find, eyes are alive like rembrandt's.
I envy this level of ability.

>>6215563
pls crit i showed you my gopnik

>>6215572
Great except for one thing, you posted this in a beginner thread meaning that you are a mentally ill narcissist and must dilate immediately

>>6215580
too long
>>6215589
lmao where the fuck is the drawthread? i haven't been on this board for a couple months then the drawthread is just gone

>>6215593
so instead of just making a draw thread you thought that the /beg/ thread would be the place to post it? lmao

>>6215595
im int bro

>>6215572
You don’t belong in this thread
Kys immediately you attention seeking whore

>>6215379
Pretty good anon! I feel your shadows are too binary either super dark or barely existent. Feel free to use more midtones to show the shape of the things you draw. I need to ask do you get this weird frightening feeling that you are ruining your picture when trying to give it shadows? If yes then do not worry you are not ruining it, you need to push through that fear , you will be fine after. I had this feeling for a long time that when I needed to add shadows to the skin of character I felt like I am making it dirty when I made it darker. It took awhile to overcome this feeling.

Keep doing your thing!

I mean it is int too, but he did want to post it in /dad/ or something could just use the catalog and search.

Ok.. I am going to try to gather all I've learned from 7 weeks worth of Erik Olson, and plan and draw a characther's bedroom from front and top view

>>6215452
definitely avoid nasolabial folds like the plague for line drawings of women

I drew my cat using loomis

>>6215653
That's one handsome cat

>>6215653
first it starts as a joke, but before you know it youre a regular poster in /fag/ with a twitter filled with coom furry art

In my drawings I am a hung shota who fucks all the milfs

>>6215662
It happened to redcolly…

>>6215662
Haha that would be silly haha

>>6215688
Janny-sama wont like this…

>>6215688
Join us, anon.

>>6215014
oh shit thanks a lot anon

Can someone explain to me how to do the cross contours on here? Is it supposed to represent what way the cylinder is facing or? I feel like I don't understand it at all at the moment and I'm just copying (badly). Drawing digitally is also a challenge, pen and paper was easier.

>>6215716
>Is it supposed to represent what way the cylinder is facing or

Yes

Tell me, which pair (top or bottom) of cylinders look weird to you given the cross contour lines

>>6215572
I genuinely have no idea how to do this. I don't even where to start to be able to do this. When lever I try to colour, It looks like vomit. So i give up. Talented people are so lucky.

>>6215729
Bottom right? You shaded them as if they were facing up and then down, but the contours make it seem like it's the opposite. Thanks for clarifying, that actually makes sense.

Hello again anons, can you redline me if i did something wrong on this one?
Also how long should it usually take to finish coloring and shading a sketch piece?

>>6215733
cool at least you are honest about your lazyness and unwillingness to learn
no need to waste my time trying to help
fucking unbelievable

>>6215742
>Also how long should it usually take to finish coloring and shading a sketch piece?
serious answer: as long as it takes to call it finished or until youre satisfied

answer you deserve: 200 hours and stop dumb questions

>>6215743
I draw everyday for several hours. So don't call me lazy or unwilling.

>>6215753
>answer you deserve
Why?

>>6215762
because there is no set time for those things it all depends and varies from artists to artist, different workflows, different types of art and sizes etc etc etc
its common sense

>>6215764
oh ok i thought i was rude somehow. I feel like artist should finish on time before the deadline, thats why i asked.

How can I learn to render like artist on the right? Left is where I'm currently at.

I know my anatomy and proportions need work too but I'm more clear on what to do to improve those. Kinda lost when it comes go colouring and rendering though

>>6215766
Learn to paint normally then study their art. Or mindlessly copy them for 5x longer than you would if you could paint normally, and reinvent many wheels on your decade long journey to make simple anime paintings.

>>6215626
Not a fan of the way it looks, but I am going to clean it up now and draw details over it

>>6215766
it's just well picked flat colors and using really opaque large brush to add in correct color light to things

>>6215768
What about it do you not like? It certainly looks like a barracks room. I was in the Army, and our barracks were standard, modern dorm rooms,

What kind of brush gives you lineart like this? I tried CSP's pencils but it's not really the same.

>>6215780
try the /beg/ meme brush - Soft round with pressure sen. Just change the color to dark brown and voila'

>>6215766
Learn lighting, Sinix has a good tutorial.

>>6215787
I really don't see how this could be a soft brush

>>6215795
If you don't like soft round anon, then go with dense small pencilbrush that doesn't have pressure sen.

>>6215787
S-sugoi, Jesus-sama is stylin' on that fool...

>>6215799
That worked. Thanks.

>>6215762
I prefer sneed

>>6215766
Apart from studies, some things I recognise that might not be obvious if you aren't familiar with this part of the software is that they did their highlights with what appears to be a CSP glow dodge layer (there's probably a PS equivalent, I don't remember Krita having one though). Hair highlights are done with a soft round (airbrush), skin highlights are (probably) done with a regular pressure-size hard round, and clothing highlights with a pressure-opacity hard round, probably to deliberately produce different textures on each. Looks like either a multiply layer or hand-picked shadow colours on a normal layer for shadows, all of which are airbrushed, though the shadows are only obvious on the hair, and it looks like they manually LIGHTENED her choker for the indirect light rather than just tinting the shadows.

Note their line quality and colour actually plays a big role here, so pay close attention to it. Most of their indirect red lighting is actually expressed through the outline itself.

>>6215572
Don't let these seething illiterate retards discourage you anon

>>6215323
ink and markers

>>6215143
>idk what to put next to him
An Aalto vase with some flowers in it!

>>6215452
Was gonna say that the top right looks like a crazy person, but your reference looks like a crazy person so carry on.

>>6215820
This is great, thanks. I have a very basic knowledge of photoshop and am not at all familiar with what kind of techniques they would use to get those cool effects.

designing for a cartoon.
with or without Mustache?

>>6214806
I really like the marker work here. Do you have any soft grays? The shoes feel like they are unfinished, and a little gray there would really bring it all together.

>>6215861
both look good but with definitely gives more SOVL

>>6214150
i tried drawing a goblin-shaped... thing

It is possible to fix the skill gap between me and artists more experienced than me quickly if I study better artists and draw the triple of them? Another good tactic might be getting good at things your more skilled art mutuals are bad at.

>>6214156

>>6215873
why is it so fun to draw crying gobbos

>>6215880
Looks good albeit lacks the fuzzy feels
away with the compliments, now do the background mr fancypants

>>6215861
Depends on what the character is supposed to be like.
Without is opener, with might be mistkaen for a bit grumpy

>>6215861
mustache has more sovl

>>6215892
He is royal guard, trying to flirt with the ladies, like a side character. He should be strong but stubborn and grogheaded. I think i'll go with the handlebar stache and spice it up a little

>>6215890
yeah I don't really know how to capture the textures

What is the key to drawing eyes that look spherical? And how do you draw eyelids that look like they're wrapping around an eye?

>>6215875
Studying other artists and piggybacking on their progress is how you catch up and progress rapidly, yes. We stand on the shoulders of giants, especially since the Renaissance (though even they were standing on the shoulders of ancient Greek and Roman artists, especially sculptors).

>>6215921
use shapes that overlap in a convincing way and create good solitary silhouette:

>>6215930
anon what's that in the lower right

>>6215921
>And how do you draw eyelids that look like they're wrapping around an eye?
Okay so one useful thing to do when you're struggling with literally anything, is to try and break it down to something that you can find in a still life.

Get a mid-sized or large ball-shaped object. Throw a cloth over it. Do some still lifes of that. Different arrangements of still life subjects are a great way to help you figure out a similar concept that you're struggling with.

>>6215936
It says Nissen, as in Nissen fundoplication.

>>6215908
If you're going with a ladies man I'd say without.
With conveys too much stability to flirt around imo

>practising faces
>find portraits of women
>tfw no gf
>day ruined

>>6215953
I also have no gf, but I enjoy drawing women because the female form is the greatest work of art.
Learn that being single is perfectly ok, anon.

>>6214549
>>6214564
Me again, did another attempt, I'm somewhat happy with how this one turned out.

>>6215982
forgot image

>>6215778
I am not sure desu, I think its mostly the amount of distortion I placed in, something about it just doesn't feel very inspiring to me
I am really happy to hear it does remind you of the barracks tho, since that was the intention

>>6215985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6TtwZS-3E0

get this course from /ic/ torrent

>>6215953
>practicing faces
>find portraits of a woman
>not interested in anyone but my wife and another smaller being of that class.
>practice my own face because I prefer male aesthetics
>day is okay.
Not much different buddy.

>>6214199
>It's literally the best beginner book.
Not with that demoralizing hand exercise at the beginning.
What the fuck was he thinking doing that?

>>6215034
What drawing routine/teacher is the most suited to people with autism, in a way that actually helps them learn instead of sticking to bad habits and, well, staying stuck inside the box?
drawabox is, naturally, at the bottom tier for this.

>>6216012
Not him but it is.

>>6215481
>use arm not hand you angloid,
how

>>6215778
Also thank you for your service

>>6216014
Not with that hand exercise it isn't.
Literally impossible.asdasd

New Thread
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>>6216008
>/ic/ torrent
Where?

>>6216023
He literally tells you your drawing will most likely look like shit.

>>6216032
It doesn't even look anything like the results he posts on the next page. I should at least be able to reach the bare minimum if I want to feel like I actually understood anything.

>>6216031
/t/

>>6216033
You're fucking retarded. I doubt you're capable of chewing your own food. I cannot understand how you hate an exercise so much you have to mention it every fucking thread. Everyone else who picks up keys to drawing seems fully capable of trying the exercise and then just carrying the fuck on. Literally kys.

>>6216005
Well, feel free to add any knick-knacks or posters that gives insight into what the character likes. Most soldiers personalized their barracks room with things like posters. One of my buddies was a musician and he had a couple of guitars and posters of his favorite artists. The only thing that was not unique in each soldier's room was the furniture. And you got it right with the twin sized bed. I don't know what kind of soldier this cadet is, but if he is Army then he might have his ruck sack in the corner.

>>6216041
>I cannot understand how you hate an exercise so much you have to mention it every fucking thread
You asked why KTD was struck from the OP. Looks like others agree with me. It's a shit tier book for beginners and you need to stop crying that others recognize it for the trap it is.

>>6216043
Thanks a lot for your input, I appreciate it a lot. I agree, I plan to add a lot more personal stuff for the cadet now that I feel more confident with the perspective
The next assigment is drawing the same room but looking from above, so I'll apply that stuff there

>>6216043
What shit tier army were you in? Depersonalization is the highest virtue, the potential for sabotage is way too high. I would never make myself vulnerable by putting in objects that had value to me, nor would I allow anyone else to hurt themselves. Rooms should be like uniforms.

>>6216049
So, just because you found an exercise too hard for you, you decided no else would get a chance at trying it either, despite beginners (other than you) never mentioning having troubles with the exercise because they're not fucking retarded like you? I say again. /beg/ would literally be a better place if you just took yourself out back and ended it.

>>6216062
>you found an exercise too hard
>you decided
>you
Like I told you, others agreed with me and cut your bad book out of the OP. It's not a good fit for beginners and it's high time it was recognized for the trash it really is.

>>6216067
Yes, YOU. I don't see anyone else backing you up on your fucking terrible shit take. Kys fucking shiczo crab faggot.

>>6216055
82nd Airborne Division, the most decorated unit in the regular Army.

You forgot the most important thing for maintaining unit cohesion and combat effectiveness: morale.

When you're active duty, you never really "clock out" of work. So allowing your soldiers to unwind in their personal space outside of work hours is important. Barracks rooms are still inspected routinely for cleanliness, as with a uniform. And if there is something wrong with your personal items, your team leader (an E-5) will let you know before your first sergeant or platoon sergeant arrive for the proper inspection.

>>6216070
>I don't see anyone else backing you up
Then why did you care that it got struck from the OP? After all, as you say, nobody is backing me up. The emperor has a fine set of clothes.

>>6216071
>ZOGbot
Am I supposed to be impressed? Kill yourself, you vaxmaxxed welfare queen. That's the best service to this country you can give.
>You forgot
You never learned anything at all.

>>6216023
Nigger, literally just follow lines and block out first

>>6216076
:^)

>>6216071
>82nd Airborne Division, the most decorated unit in the regular Army.
Jews really did a number on this nigger

>>6216084
Can you say that again in /beg/ language? Or what the guy actually says in his supposed beginner book?

Real new thread with correct OP and correct previous thread:

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>>6216053
Don't do it. The guy suggesting that has only served masters that work to destroy the country he claims to love.

>>6215985
Soon, you'll be casting bounced light on full gestured figure studies!
One step at a time, friend. Looks great for now, bottom right is very well rendered.

>>6216106
I appreciate yours too, I can understand your early comment for a more pragmatic and less naive character, but his input does work well for the character I have in mind

>>6216124
>your early comment for a more pragmatic and less naive character,
No, a more efficient and just army.
>his input does work well for the character I have in mind
A ZOGbot who works to put families in FEMA camps and exterminate all resistance to the new world order? Don't we have enough of those in the real world?

move

>>6216087
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Ignore the retard. This is the real thread
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>>6216148
Fuck off you mentally ill spastic. You're just arguing with yourself about nothing to keep your thread active.

Actual artbros are here: >>6216087

>>6216152
>spams the first thread with argumentative bullshit
Ok samefaggot.
Real thread here: >>6216016

>discordcuck getting desperate
>can only keep his threads active by arguing with himself and desperately spamming here
Embarrassing little idiot.

Actual thread:

>>6216087
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>6216160
>arguing with himself
You're the fucktard spamming off topic shit in the thread.

>>6216160
>still spamming
lmao

>>6216091
learn construction and perspective

>>6216174
Sounds like a pretty crappy book for beginners.

>>6216023
>first lesson is primarily to teach you to have a positive attitude about "failure" and keep your morale up
>this manbaby retard got filtered by it because it was "demoralizing"
LMFAO

>>6216327
Pretty shit book for beginners to make you fail out of the gate. Building on success is a better approach.

>>6216372
lol

>>6216377
>fail and never learn anything
>oh don't worry that's by design

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>>6216392
actual schizo
new proper thread here
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>>6216395
You are a desperate little idiot.

Real thread:

>>6216087
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>>6216403
Said the one who had a meltdown and spammed his thread after the proper thread was made >>6216025

>>6216405
Your garbage thread literally has the same amount of IPs despite having 30 more posts. You have been arguing with yourself all thread you embarrassing little idiot.

>>6216408
>You have been arguing with yourself
Schizo, you've been spamming that thread to the point of spamming literal shit. Everyone can see you.

>>6216410
>mentally ill schizo projections
You're such a sad little idiot.

>>6216415
the irony is palpable

kiss and make up

>>6216408
>spams the thread with shit.
>wonders why there's less IPs
Fucking retard

>>6214620
i'd say that it's perfectly ok for avarage coomer
don't forget to bill him at least 30$