/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6208838
Senko in Nyn style.

You can still post it on beg dude

How do you do fellow beglets.

>>6208844
I legit want your blog, anon. I promise not to send weird stuff trough your DM's or anything like that.

>>6208854
I find your response amusing, but sorry, I have no blog nor social media accounts.

>>6208861
How about your address? Haha, no JK, but if you sent me to me that would be cool. Haha.

>>6208838
Based

>>6208838
Can I join?

>>6208838
name it /pbg/ pre-beg general to differentiate it from the other thread

hey fellow /beg/s, here's my last drawing. it took me a little longer than usual at 4-5 hours. any advice on what to fix?
I know im slow but ive only been drawing 6 months

>>6208931
I know you're trolling but goddamn I wish I could draw this well

>>6208933
anon.. that's barely even low /int/

>>6208933
Imagine having trannime as your inspiration, hilarious

>>6208935
I know. I'm still stuck in low /beg/ hell.

>>6208838
we draw sanic thread?

>>6208937
>imagine having art as your inspiration
You’re right i should just masturbate to it

>>6208838
Guys I need hope. Are there instances of people in their 20s/30s going from true /beg/ to pro or at the very least, mid /int/?

beg here

>>6208959
Sinix was garbage in his 20s and got a job in concept art pretty soon after he started learning.

>>6208949
Trannime isnt art, it's craft

>>6208838
Started practicing since 2019 and stuck currently. No intention of becomming pro. I draw what i personally like and have mood for.

>>6208935
>anon.. that's barely even low /int/
Nah, the shading values are fine and the light is pretty good too, overall it adds to a mid /int/. Don't be so hard on yourselves folks

>>6208838
I'm all for an actual /beg/ general. I'm tired of seeing these drawing challenges and the /int/fags showing off with them. I can't even draw a fucking cube yet they're asking for a lion.

>>6209003
stop cubing and fucking draw

>>6208935
Looks pretty nice to me. What's the standard of quality here because this is better than 99% of /dad/, /beg/&/int/, and the oc thread. Or is it just anime = hate?

>>6209017
this is mid /int.

>>6208931
post 90s anime really lost its soul

>>6209020
>this is mid int
>posts a drawing that's only different in composition and style

I don't get it. To a begs eye like me the drawings have no glaring flaws and look very masterful and professional to me. Like how many people you know can pick up a digital tablet and pen and draw like this? If this is intermediate then what the fuck is advanced?

>>6209017
It's just jealously. You have to remember at least 90% of /ic/ are literally beginners, if you exclude the no draws.

>>6209043
everything is mid /int/ or lower in comparison to the great me who won't show you my work. no I am not a jaded dekinai.

>>6208849
What happened to your futa thread?

>>6209043
a floating anime girl will never be more than /int/
to be /advanced/ you need to have messaging and purpose behind your art.

>>6209043
They're both professional level work. This is why /ic/ is terrible, especially for beginners

its funny that the stage you guys are at is supposed to last like a month tops. those "intermediate" or fake begs are still gonna feel like begs if theyve only been drawing for 5 months.

this thread should actually be called permabeg

>>6209051
>>Subscribe Tomoe channel because i like the big boobs milf design and her voice is nice
>>Now she usually being depicted as a carpet muncher with another random Vtuber

Man, indie stuff usually end up as shit.

>>6209096
pretty sure the yuri angle got dropped months ago when they broke up.
i stopped caring about her after that, she was okay but nothing special. and kana was terrible as a streamer.

>>6208838
here's a good exercise https://streamable.com/5abbeq

>>6209100
She had dyke haircut for awhile and that period made me kinda, stopped following her. Yuribait is cheap and beside gaining some attentions from undesired audiences, but in long term profit, it kills alot actual passions from old fans. Now i find Tomoe to be even more obscure than her early days.

>>6209103
actually useful, thanks for posting it.

>>6208838
you can't be drawing like op picrel unless you 5 yo and you can't change my mind

So what's the point of this thread? Are you going to post you ACTUAL works or what?

>>6208838
go to /i/ where actual begs are

>>6209918
no, we're here to talk about vtumors even though we're all EOPs that can't read hiragana.

>>6208959
I’m still a /beg/ but it’s absolutely possible. It’s all about the amount time and discipline you have. Pro tip: get a comfy wfh job. That usually speeds things up.

Vertical lines look thinner and sharper than horizontal lines with a pencil
What to do?

>>6208844
Cute and fluffy :3

>>6209003
>I can't even draw a fucking cube
are you mentally retarded? serious question.

>>6210597
Do you honestly think it's easy to draw a good cube?

>>6210631
define easy and good cube

>>6208838
Hello /ic/
I’m totally new to all of this. I posted some drawings on /co/ and asked for advice. Most people were helpful, but one guy kept insisting I was an /ic/ regular named “Dive” who spams a “superhero with time powers” in order to have a “pity party.”
Now I’ve never posted on /ic/ in my life until now, it was this very post.
Does anyone know who/what he’s talking about? I searched the archive for “dive,” “time powers,” and “pity party” and couldn’t find anything
Here’s the /co/ thread
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132342920/
And yeah I’m an actual, legitimate, starting from zero BEGINNER beginner. Any help is appreciated :)

>>6210712

I hate using references so I never learn. Colored using the AND filter on krita

>>6210715
An attempt at perspective

>>6210716
Is this how it's supposed to look? Looks all glitchy and shit

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>>6210721
You need hogarth

>>6210720
It's my first time using this filter and yes I think it's how the filter works(glitches + color shifts). As for my intention I didn't have any. It's a simple binary filter afterall

>>6210722
These next few are copied straight from tutorials online
>>6210724
Who/what is Hogarth? All I know is the kid from the Iron Giant

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>>6210742
Anyway this is all I have to show. Like I say I’m a super beginner.

>>6210748
I'm a beginner too, but looking at tutorials from Loomis might help you out.

>>6210968
Yeah, I wanted to jump straight into a kind of chibi/cutesy style, but someone in the /co/ thread told me it’s bad practice to start stylizing if you can’t draw the basics already. So I’m gonna look into Loomis and that Hogarth guy someone else rec’d

>>6210993
Also, does anyone know anything about “Dive” with the “time powers” oc who has “pity parties,” or is the other anon just a schizo?

>>6209051
Nahh not really. I get what you're saying, as a lot of things that help you tell a good story/make a compelling image are things you need to practice and learn, but a piece of art can be masterfully made but just boring and not really that interesting. Most people here are talking about the ability to draw what they see in their head and make it look good - soul/storytelling/etc will come in a bit later for them. Saying the aforementioned pics are intermediate is not great for encouraging people imo

What’s y’all’s thoughts on draw a box?

>>6208939
Legs need more perspective. Set up a ground plane and make sure the legs touch it rather than them just randomly floating

Maybe even adding some cast shadow could help reinforce the fact that they are touching the ground

(or not if some of the legs are supposed to be lifted up)

>>6208931
your perspective is wrong and work on your values

>>6208935
ಠ_ಠ

>>6209043
I would say /ic/ has a very high standard to what it consideres beg / int / advanced. Like what /ic/ might call beg would be called intermediate by most outside of /ic/.

By non artists standards:
-Beg is showing either no understanding or next to not understanding of fundamentals like perspective (no vanishing point or isometric "perspective") (basically pre-beg by ic standards)
-I think all you need to get out of the begginer stage by most standards is basic a basic grasp of perspective , shading, anatomy , not symbol drawing (drawing what you see not what you think you see). Like it doesnt look really obviously off/isnt symbol drawn , it just needs to look like a thing
in 3d space.
-Intermediate would be if it actually looks half-decent
-Advanced or high int if it looks good/could land you some comissions
-Pro would be something like rembrant or what is commonly considered "The masters".

By artists outside of /ic/ id say its:
-No understanding of fundies (beginner)
-Some basic understanding (high-beg)
-Looks decent , no obvious mistakes, could land you some commisions (intermediate)
-Great understanding of fundamentals (pro) (think MC Escher or Rembrant)

I would say by these standards (when talking about artists that are taking it alteast semi-seriously) you would get a sort of bell curve where most would be int , low int or high int , maybe more begs than pros but you get the idea.

should i do studies side by side or just estimate proportion between a monitor and a pencil/paper? I've been doing the latter, but it's hard to nail the 90% accuracy without spending an inordinate amount of time sight measuring (i think using an actual ruler is cheating).

I just got a used cintiq 13 so I can start to do some side by side studies alongside those with paper but the small screen might make it a bit awful.

picrel was two pics i did tonight in 45 minutes. I mean its not good but I'm enjoying it so far.

Am I beg enough

2 hours

>>6211887
why are you spending your time fucking around with colour and other shit when you can't even draw a proper face

Trying to draw shapes with those lines which help make it feel 3D

>>6212101
And if he just grinded face sketches you’d insist he needs to finish a piece. so STFU, crab.

>>6212101
what's wrong with my face?

>>6211707
Too gestural not Beg YWNBB

>>6212286
Should I KMS?

>>6212273
>he needs to finish a piece
No I fucking wouldn't you inbred retard the only "crab" here is you, ya fucking retard.
>>6212283
It's not good I could just tell you le loomis but instead I'm going to drop you some david finch
https://youtu.be/wA9yMDuqLI8?list=PL5_7gIzms4TttLtQm-7mCiJGotKDSnanm
inb4 but it's not le animay
learn to construct a proper head and draw proper features before you do your stylization gaynime trash

>>6212316
You’re one deluded piece of shit. I’ll note you didn’t try to actually be helpful until I outed you as a crab. So fuck off.

I feel like my grids and lineart suck but my rendering and coloring is good

Does anyone else always have a hard time freehanding the upper torso area? Neck, clavicle, traps, pecs area. Its the trickiest bunch of muscles to get right from different angles.

>>6213275

I waste a shitload of time on construction for this very reason.

>>6212696
Grid looks fine but isnt perfect squares if that's what you wanted. Part of it is the lines aren't perfectly conforming to the form if they were going on the axes, the leftmost line and the third from left are both examples of them deviating from climbing the axis

>>6211563
What are those squares and weird scribbles under the drawing for?

These are all unironically better than me and I've been drawing for years. Where is the REAL /beg/ thread?

>>6214268
i was trying to do 1-to-1 so those are marking the size of the image.

>>6215325
everything else was me boxing out structures and eyeing angles

>>6209043
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>>6209051
dear retards,
the blue one is using 3 point perspective in a somewhat elaborate way. she's sitting on the staircase, not "floating".
the first kitchen picture is less extravagant. Both are lacking bounce lighting/reflected light and several other beginner level expressions of light and value, despite the prominent highlights (it looks like only one onion attempted this and the ceiling light fixture but nowhere else lmao). both images have incorrect head perspectives, because quite frankly they know their audience. this is very typical of anime styled drawings, you basically need to slide the 'western' slider bar further to get a decent perspective skull, because you'll have things like noses or actual facial features, and therefore more feature landmarks to align into 3D space.
98% of users here are just terminally biased weebs in favor of anime and will easily be won over by a few highlights here and there, while dying on hills of praising japanese. because it justifies their own shortcomings and bad habits.

overall the drawings are ok, but just bland shameless likes-on-social-media farming tools that can never fail. so i will never hate them for doing this, in fact i may consider joining them. but i'll always hold higher respect for art that can't even be recreated these days traditionally, due to shifting in worldwide interests.

How many of you people are actually starting out? I'm not talking to "well I've been doodling since childhood but seriously for 6 months" types.
What do you want to achieve?

>>6215385
1 week

>>6215385
I started a few days ago. I just want to draw cute anime girl desu.

>>6215385
17months of daily grind, it feels like yesterday.
It was a johnny bravo drawing which i still have somewhere.

>>6215351
>IS THAT A STUDY OF SOMEONES BACKYARD?!
>AAAAAAAAA IM COOOMING! OLD MASTERS CAP157

>Actual /beg/s are finally rebelling against the faggot disctroon /int/s who use the beginner threads as a place to flex on the only people that are worse than them
BASED BEGINNER REVOLUTION

>>6215514
>finally
this happens every time schizos try to integrate both threads

>>6215509
it's an olde fashioned bowling alley, brainlet

Wait is this why no one ever responds to what I post?

>>6215531
sorry bro...

>>6215537
Oh well I'll still give advice where I can but I know I just need to do more rn although some advice now and then would be nice.

>>6215531
Show me your work bro, I'll comment on it.

>>6215547
Thanks man.
Goal is to do animation if that matters.
Some of these I did get advice on but since you're offering

>>6215557
That desert landscape one is really cool. What is your process?

>>6215547
This is the style I'd like to go towards.
>>6215562
Find a cool reference and fuck around untill it looks good. I did that one over the course of two days not fully dedicated to it.

>>6215562
Oh yeah with that one also I first tried to lay in the big shapes and go from there but that didn't work out because it didn't feel right
I deleted it all and started again with doing dune by dune in detail.

>>6215562
Literally just use Dall-E

>>6215557
>>6215568
You're doing well, anon. Keep at it. Not many mistakes I can point out that won't be fixed by doing what you already do.

>>6215557
I love that desert shot, bro

>>6215568
Whats your process, or who would you recommend as a teacher if I want to learn how to do landscape shots like the top most right? The river and mountain look beautiful, I love the strong sense of space

>>6215603
No idea I'm sorry, it's from a game called 'Ash of Gods' so that might help? It's heavily influenced by animation probably. Since that's what they said in some interview I'll see if I can find it again but it was old school animation.
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>>6215594
Thanks!

>>6215603
>The visual style of Ash of Gods has been inspired by the work of Ralph Bakshi, old-school Disney cartoons and the Soviet animation studio “Baseduzmultfilm” of the 60s.

I’m permaprebeg and only getting worse but it’s probably okay for me to post here.

how do I help my friend improve without destroying his confidence? He shows me art he spends hours on and it seriously looks like chris-chan drew it. He then asks me why its not doing as well as some big name twitter artist that drew the same character. I was in his shoes once so I know how it feels to love your own art even if its bad, and I dont want to take that away from him by showing him just how wide the skill gap is.

>>6215693
draw with them and casually drop a technique every session.

"oh m8 how big should I make this circle for the base of this character's skull"

calls their attention to new information without telling them they're lacking in any way. whether they then absorb the new stuff they see you doing and decide to do it themselves... well you can't always lead a horse to water.

omg gayfellaz!

What the fuck is going on in the regular /beg/ threads?

>>6208838
cup

So just started this week and working through fun with a pencil, should I work through drawing on the right side of the mind after?

Or after fun with a pencil should I just focus on mastering what it teaches and sketch a bunch before moving onto another resource?

>>6209020
That's /pro/, retard-kun.

>>6210673
See, you're able to rotate the cube.

>>6211551
>drawing what you see not what you think you see
What does this mean? What does it ACTUALLY mean?

>>6211707
t.low int

How long can you be a prebeg before the condition is terminal?

I can't do anything at all.

>>6215568
Why do non-/beg/s insist on coming here?

Been trying to actually learn how to draw instead of drawing for the sake of it. Started reading Fun with a pencil a bit ago (Study 2) not that crazy far in it due to other obligations, but that book has been a lot of help in helping me use shapes to construct, something I've struggled with and still struggle with a lot. All the blue-ish gray stuff was drawn on my phone so apologizes if you can't see the construction lines on some of the drawings since there was no layer options on the app I was using.

I think the big thing I'm still trying to understand is how to study art? Like the exercises and directions to go.

>>6216733
Cute beg

>>6215693
>I was in his shoes once
pyw

>>6215351
I wonder if there's a reason people respond more positively to art that spends more energy trying to look cool than it does trying to look real.

I need advice

>>6218172
if i wanted realism i'd look at a photograph desu

>>6218174
There's nothing inherently wrong with realism, but if you're just going to use that realism to make shit you'd see in any family photo album, then you've literally spent 10,000 hours learning to be boring.

>>6209918
Not much when /begs/ and /int/s flooded the place.

>>6218173
stop using stabilizer, even at that low level, and stop using the exact same line width for the entire work, he looks like a family guy character

Before applying to electric clamps to his victim’s breasts, Larry the Lunatic Liberal assured her that his rape shack was powered by sustainable wind and solar energy and so torturing her wouldn’t increase her carbon footprint.

2 month progress from never touching drawing in my life. I appreciate ur hardest critic.

>>6218481
That's pretty much the reason why we stopped caring, ints will post their stuff in beg threads anyway.
Just ignore them and draw.

>>6219042
Stand together, begs!

>>6219042
>if he draws better than me then he is int
anon stop with this subjective perception bullshit there are literally so few ints on this boards but you will call any anon that can draw a semi decent anime girl an int

>>6219042
>ints will post their stuff in beg threads anyway.
it's almost like they're stupid made up terms with no real meaning.

>>6219260
Your a stupid made up term faggot.