/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

smol child

Cute Sasha!

OP Critique:
good job for using art from the last thread but dying a fat bastard is the best possible fate in existence

question abotut this image how do you know how narrow things get?
I needed to do this for a rack so i made things get narrower as it approached the horizon but people told me it was very wrong

>>6204858
The answer is in the very picture you posted, idiot.

trying to do planes (green) as people suggested before with planes and the asaro head, it's really tricky, some positions like looking up is really hard, most artist don't draw under the chin or draw very little of it so i guess I'll just do that when doing anime.
How did i do, any look off?

>>6204709
Do we have any loli august prompt chart by any chance?

>>6204858

>>6204938
>Any look off?
Yes, most of them. You should change that brush or the light color. It's making you think you're doing better than you actually are because you can't see the details well.

>>6204954
Thanks, which ones in particular are off?
Or what mistakes did i make, cause i really can't tell other than some proportions being off

https://files.catbox.moe/s2j31k.jpg

Anya and becky

>>6204956
I could point it out, but you've got to learn to spot your own mistakes or you'll never improve. Compare it with the ref for starters.

>>6204974
>I could point it out
You can’t.

>>6204974
How can he learn to see it himself if you don't show him how to spot those mistakes, retard. That's such a cop out answer because you're scared you don't actually know what you're talking about. I hope you never become a teacher.

>>6204938
Do you have any form of contact? I’d like to share a course with you that will help you out and I could use a study partner since I’ll go through it with you.

>>6204995
I see you must be new here. This guy has gotten countless redlines and countless paragraphs of advice. I could redline him yet again and he would keep making the same mistakes while asking what did he do wrong because he never learned to think for himself. You can go ahead and spoon feed him if you want but you'd be just wasting your time.

>>6204938

>>6205005
I will spoon feed him because he’s based with based tastes and if he improves it’ll get you even more livid.

>>6205019
You're a retard. I want him to improve because it's sad to see someone stagnate this long. You're just crabbing him by doing that.

>>6205010
thank you

>>6205023
>I want him to improve
Then use your stylus, not type it out.

>>6205027
Read my posts again, you retarded monkey with zero reading comprehension.

>>6205029
Hey, watch your uncouth mouth with me. Especially when you’re all bark and no bite.

>>6204968
have a (You) anon that's bretty good
you went pro yet ?
also any training tips ?

>>6204938
looking up angle
for more extreme angles the usual measurements are thrown out the window slightly

ok i tried again from the feedback hopefully it's better, these took ages.
I still don't know how to morph anime eyes in perspective, the middle head facing down looks weird as the eyelids match what a real person's would but doesn't work well for anime
. Also the anime heads just look weird overall, i think it's the chubbier cheeks messing it up or maybe having too much detail like eyelids

>>6205095
thanks, i'll make notes for next time

>>6205117
What source are you studying from?

>>6205176
did i mess up?
I'm just rotating heads and trying to get it right. For the regular heads I might look at an asaro head and try to mimic that in my way then check and see if i got anything wrong.
for the anime heads I'm refference the head the anon made last thread
>>6197860 and posing it the same way as the other heads

Are there going to be prompts of any kind? They don't have to be daily, but I tend to draw more when I have a focused path and when others share their interpretations of ideas.

>>6205357

It’s fine but some things are just omitted for anime style. It’s good to know the realistic model so you know what it is you’re including/excluding but I don’t think it’s necessary to add the same amount of rhythm lines from the real head to the anime head. Anime style is largely iconographic.

>>6205405
This is speaking for the typical anime moe faces most people here want to draw (i.e Blue Archive) and not for anything that goes out of that. So yes, keep practicing the structure but keep in mind when it’s okay to omit things or you’ll end up with westoid faces.

>>6203334
kiwifarms
(dot)
net
/
threads
/allthefallen-ninja-now-allthefallen-moe
(dot)
38831

>>6205405
>>6205415
thanks, so which things should i tone down or omitt if you dont mind me asking?
im assuming the eye lids as i mainly see western styles have that, and sinplify the nose, but anything else?

>>6205426
Holy shit. Look at anime. Why are you even asking this?

>>6205426

Yes, those. Hard to tell at the moment since nothing is lineart but you’ll figure out what’s useful and what’s not when you start finishing heads.

>>6204929
It doesn't.

>>6204858
Once you know where to put a square, you can just eyeball the ellipse.
For the square, the diagonals of all the squares will go to the same vanishing points (unless they're rotated, which isn't needed here).
To get this vanishing point, you can do some measuring (I'd get a book on perspective), you you can just eyeball one square you like and draw a line from the corners to the horizon to find the 2 vanishing points.
You can now make new squares by making sure the diagonals match the new vanishing points.

https://files.catbox.moe/0akylx.png
For a drawthread

>>6205685
blog?

>>6204709
is that dekomori?

>>6203266
This stuff is pretty cool (pacifier aside)
I have been thinking for some time that I should aim to at least learn to draw this body type, regardless of whether I stick with it or not.

>>6204968
Consider doing eye contact with either of them to increase the impact of the pic, but I think everything looks fine.

>>6205530
alright thank you

>>6205416
Are you guys really KF users or is this just an elaborate shitpost?
Does this general have a thread on there?

>>6206143
It was very retarded for the user to link to the KF's thread on ATF instead of just directing people to https://allthefallen.moe/ for the loli game mods.

>>6205685
This is very nice, and second the blog request. I really like how you used a limited palette with maximum efficiency

That was a lucky drawthread

oh I'm fucking done with this one
btw this was inspired by that novel lamb some anon recommended me a while ago. pretty cute story and not even half as crazy as lolita
I think it mentioned the girl had pale blond hair but the freckles weren't working well with that hair color

>>6206212
You did a very good job. I could see this being on the cover of a children's book or a full colour page.

>>6206212
I really like it. If pale blonde didn't work with freckles, I would have tried strawberry blonde, but it would probably lack contrast against the autumn leaves background.
The only thing I don't like are the folds on the wool sweater, but I can see you probably looked at references for them. I just don't like heavy fabric folds in general, so it's most likely on me

>>6206143
I browse it from time to time just to read what “plans” stalkers have. The people there are relentless, dedicated trolls that make this place blush.

Any watercolor pencil anons here? I'm in dire need of your help on how should I proceed next. Like how can I paint the small details like the pupil or folds of the clothes without making it look a blob of paint? I'm currently using my old Faber-castell watercolor pencil with included brush.

dead general

>>6206942
Fathers are at work making money for their 2D daughters.

>>6206942
Slow board.

Also we're all busy trying to get better at drawing lolis

>>6206950
Wagies are permabegs

>>6207099
You’re just mad at my salaryman drip. Bet I drew more than you today, too, huh neetcuck.

>>6207112
neets are lazy

I did a study of an eye. How long is drawing something like this supposed to take? it took me like 40 minutes to fully render just the eye. I can't imagine what it would be like doing an entire piece in a style like this. how do pros do it?

>>6207269
Just stop being /beg/ and it'll take you 5 minutes tops.
>But how?
Draw more.

>>6207275
so just repeat the steps over and over again until they become second nature?

>>6207269
>How long is drawing something like this supposed to take?
Drawing it probably not much, studying it as long as you need. You should probably do reps.

>>6207276
I'd say it's best to make sure you have an understanding of what you are doing and why you are doing it that way rather than repeating steps mindlessly.
Things like how is the pupil positioned based on the angle, the overall shape of the eye, the hue variations, etc.

>>6207277
>>6207278
thanks for the advice :)
here's the last rep I'm able to get in tonight. hopefully will have the chance to draw more tomorrow.

How do I learn like the greats like mammoth and get picture references like the ones he uses?

>>6207584
embrace the cunny

do not respond

>>6207595
fuck you nigger, i do what i want

>>6207584
just look for classic paintings
https://twitter.com/dorontabi/status/1556198741262356480

>>6207584
you can try allthefallen, gelbooru, pinterest, shuttershock for images

mammoth is so based you can't even mention him lol

>>6207643
>stock images of 9/10 men in suits
>it's always the complete opposite in real life

>>6207654
use the filter

>>6207601

Pedro Pascal

https://files.catbox.moe/rzszko.png
anya and becky blowjob final result.

>>6205037
nah I haven't really posted anything until last month. My only tip is to look up how other artists do things and copy their process.

>>6207709
Nice job anon.
I wouldn't have gone for a painterly style, but it's nice and I like your colors

>>6207648
any artist that becomes too good makes the janny seethe

>>6207790
you have the maid rent free in your head 24/7

>>6205371
Draw Alice from Alice in Wonderland.

>>6205371
Draw Alice from Alice in Wonderland.

hopefully the eyes dont' look flat

>>6208042
I'm more bothered by the top of her hair, and by her feet not quite aligned on the same plane, than by her eyes

But it's still a cute loli Cynthia

>>6208042
Calfs looks like //

cape horn

>>6207966
Not bad, I'm not convinced with the angle of the face tho, were you going for a style in particular?
I take it she's facing downwards, but I wouldn't push it that far.
This is the picture I used for reference
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5663076&tags=yamaguchi_%28shinigami-no-barad%29

>>6207994
god i love semi realistic

>>6208213
that tablet is a wave of nostalgia

colored, i'm having issues with the face since i planned it with more form but if i add all that form it looks weird.
Turn down the values works better but i still can't render forms of the face without the cheeks and nose looking weird

>>6208217
Indeed, good old bamboo fun

>>6208236
Head looks too big

>>6208242
She's meant to be 4 heads tall or even smaller

>>6208247
The body doesn't fit her head

>>6208236
>i planned it with more form but if i add all that form it looks weird.
What form are you going with? Can you show?

>>6208268
These
>>6208042
>>6205117
are the forms I'm going for, but it just doesn't work

>>6208285
I'd say try with a simpler form, anime-ish style is usually very very simple.

>>6208320
alright, i just gotta figure out how to do that and make it look good

>>6208236
I unironically really like this. Colors are very pleasant

>>6208403
Thanks, I just hope I get better and more people here like my drawings

>>6208042

loli mod by an anon
https://rentry.org/anonstardewmods

>>6207643
the joke isnt funny when you know its pronounced QUE-ny

>>6208178
thanks but i was going for a more extreme angle, still i'll turn down the curves of the face and hopefull it'll look better
>>6208602
thank you , but i can't tell what i did wrong, other than make the cranium too big

>>6209399
>but i can't tell what i did wrong
You can't feel the form at all, can you?

i don't know what to draw...

>>6209438
draw loli having seggs

https://imgur.com/a/3pXkovT

She's trying her best

any crit
>>6209539

is there too much detail?
i feel like the hair messed some stuff up like they're both meant to be leaning forward with their head forward but she looks kinda stiff and straight which kinda messes up the arm going around him

>>6209557
I don't think there's too much details in the hair, if it's supposed to be a mess.
However the heavy linework on the hair makes that part of the picture more crowded and dark, it kinda ruin the balance. But that could easily be fixed with proper lineweight at cleanup

Otherwise... I don't think I'm good enough to criticize it.

I noticed someone's art here in the popular section on sankaku. The who drew the Anya and Becky. Congrats.

>>6209772
I am happy to see gmi's from here.

What's a list of popular lolis I can draw?

>>6210398
are you >>6209539 >>6209438?
Why do you even want to draw if you're so creatively bankrupt?

>>6210398
here is where a pepe the frog looking at viewer with content image is most appropriate

>>6210398
Characters from franchises with vast, dedicated fanbases
So, pokemon girls
Genshin impact lolis
Touhou, still popular

>>6210527
>fanbases
and what is the point if you aren't a fan
posts like this annoy me so much

>>6210557
You don't need to be a fan to do fanart and it's not like you're gonna interact with the fanbase too much anyway. They're just numbers.

>>6210557
He asked about popular lolis
I give him popular lolis
He should draw what he likes, I agree, but if he wants to play the number games, those are some of the ones he can use

>>6206233
thanks man. a friend noticed some wrong stuff like the long cranium so I had to do another revision
>>6206243
yeah, most other people whom I've showed that drawing said something about the left sleeve folds so I probably fucked up there. guess I know where to go next
>>6203270
there you go bro https://files.catbox.moe/ok8xgx.png

>>6210883
Damn that linked picture is damn nice too, great job

>>6210883
Those blurred leave on the foreground are too distracting and ruin the composition. Her face looks a bit too small for her head. Her shadow in the background doesn't make too much sense either. It makes her look like she's kneeling.

>>6210886
danke schon
>>6210894
damn, I thought those leaves would be the coolest shit. noted
that shadow I painted long to imply it's being cast by the morning sun. should I have just omitted it?

>>6211036
I think the leaves on the top look very awkward and look too noisy compared to everything else. Also you shouldn't have a third light value that is even lighter unless it's a proper highlight or it's from another light source.

>>6211091
naruhodo. yeah, I still have trouble gauging how much detail the different parts of the composition should have but my inspiration in this regard was this pic
also, having her head face that direction means I'd have to move the coffee mug closer to the center of the face as well, plus the hands, plus the clothes...
still, appreciate the feedback

>>6211122
But it's the same direction? I just gave her a keystone. But yeah, see that big in the right? It has many layers of detail, the leaves further behind mix with the sky and the ones in the front are darker and have sharper borders. No need to go autistic with detail.

>>6211133
that big tree*

>>6211310
I know you can do better than this, ay

>>6211310
Why does that boy has manboobs already?

>>6210409
that's not me

>>6210398
current meta
S - Blue Archive
A - Popular loli/lolified Vtubers
B - Idolmaster / FGO /Seasonal Lolis
C - lolis from other game franchise
D - Outdated series/ franchises
E - OCs

>>6211122
On the left there's a gap in the leaves, it's important and wasn't present in your original composition.

I imagine myself as the loli when making loli art

can someone help me with the perspective please?
https://litter.catbox.moe/uspm7e.png

>>6211122
whats the source on the artist googly only gives me weird cult pages

>>6204709
Does Honey Select 2 have loli options?
If yes, do they make for good reference?

>>6211721
I'm pretty sure there are loli mods.
As for using them as references... I never managed to use 3d models as references properly myself and would love an explanation on how to do that

>>6211133
open my image and yours in different tabs and you'll see. you widened the gap between the eyes and moved the nose so the mouth would have to follow the nose and then everything else as well
I can rework the background and shading still, so thanks
>>6211432
andrey shishkin

>>6211411
Good
Cunny

does this look beg, int, or actually good?

>>6212396
Not your art. Why do you care?

>>6212398
to know whether the artists of the past stand the test of time, apparently this inspired miyazaki to not quit animation

>>6212404
So you can't form your own opinion? Go back to drawing instead, faggot.

>>6212411
uhm, warm welcome i guess, did the drawing trigger you?

>>6212396
Good enough for its time, average by today's standards

is there a point to posting?
people will just shit on you and get you to quit and revel in it

>>6212550
Here? Not really unless you want critique of questionable quality. Stick to pixiv/twitter.

>>6212550
What >>6212571 said. The critiquers here are extremely opinionated, territorial and toxic. There are a few denizens who also refuse to acknowledge when an artist has done something right so you're gonna end up with only negative responses from posting here. Becoming a regular artist in this thread is probably the worst decision you can make growing as an artist.

>>6212581
Sounds like you need to grow a thick skin. Why are you in /ic/ if you don't want critique?

>>6212586
You are only proving my point.

>>6212586
He exists to persuade every last person to not post on /ic/...I mean, why else are his hostfiles still empty?

how much longer until i get out of beg

:)

>>6212662
Not any time soon unless you do more studies and doodle less.

>>6212662
Probably never, just do another hobby

>>6212662
I'm curious of the cranial size underneath that hair.

>>6212678
umm

>>6212662
COPY
Start fucking COPYING

>>6212662
She needs to see a barber.

>>6212662
You have been so close of reaching int for a couple of years already.
As the other anon said, you should copy.

>>6212662
her arms are too short. the hands should reach mid thigh when the arms and legs are both straight

>>6211432
try yandex, its a better search engine for images

>>6212662
I feel ur out of beg

looks like a good sketch

>>6212849
Stepping into 4th character to convey this post but here is the paradox of your post and it's you're lying to him. And then if I say these words it's
>gtfo crab

Not saying you're the same anon but someone the confess thread mentioned they praise people to keep them stagnate and content where they are and you fit the description.
>fuck off schizo

I'm simply stating factual posts from what was said in another thread >>6212464

Have I covered all my bases before
>pyw

comes into the last possible playing card? I think so. Okay, it's safe to go back to first character.

>>6212928
schizophrenic post

>>6212947

breathe

this is the second time I've drawn him. now to think of a name...

>>6212988
Name him Roblox Kun.

>>6212662
soon! you're at least a high beg anon :)

>>6212662
I would say it's an int sketch, but to know if you're out of beg, clean and color it

After all, lineworks and colors can make or break a piece

>>6212995
Lol yes

>>6212706
no, loli girls with long hair is fine

>post talking about how bad this place is gets deleted
>posts calling drawings shit and tell others stop drawing entirely dont

it finally got animated

https://hanime.tv/videos/hentai/boku-wa-chiisana-succubus-no-shimobe-1

>>6213514
comments consist of
>x gang
>let’s GOOO
>fbi is watching
>God forgive me
>you people are sick

Where do these people hail from? Facebook? Not that i’m bashing facebook since they actually do (or had) good loli discord groups as long as it didn’t get infiltrated by # scoopers looking to put your ID on a public list to shame you. Or maybe it’s just ironic funny posting that everyone is in on.

>>6213572
>its popular so I must hate it

>>6213580
That’s not what i’m saying. I think I lost brain cells just responding to you.

>>6213572
i prefer the nhentai posters they actually are funny, share content, help others and love the art.
They just freak out over mote messed up stuff like amputation or scat tho

>>6212662
What are you working on right now?
Usually I try to focus on one thing to fix / improve at the time.
And since improvement is achieved through mileage, I'd say ideally you wanna make many sketches of the issue for a more efficient use of time.
Notice tho that sketch doesn't necessary mean linework, sketches can be colored too, just not fully detailed and such. If you need to practice (for example) giving for to the face or something, you may wanna do a couple of heads with color and all, looking at artists you like and trying to imitate them.
As for me, I think I'll get back into painting the hair, my hair coloring sucks.

>>6213572
They're pedos in denial spewing dumb memes to feel less pedo

>>6213990
Pretty nice, her right hand seems awkwardly positioned, and the angle on her left foot doesn't seem to match the rest of the drawing.

>>6213993
thank you
yeah i see what you talking about 'll try to fix it

dead general

>>6214414
Fathers are at church with their 2D daughters giving the lord thanks for the blessed gains during the week.

>>6214414
I could post my drawings, but I know they're beg and would be trashed on to death.
I'm not sure my ego would survive

>>6214414
true

>>6207994
Here's my attempt at Alice. What do you guys draw when you don't have anything to draw? do you guys still do prompts?

>>6214750
Consider lowering her mouth eyes and nose, giving her less chin and more forehead.
Tho it depends on what you like.
I always have something to draw... just not enough time...

>>6212662
nice, did u make it from scratch? i like the shape design in the hair

>>6212662
You understand forms to some degree but utterly lack any sense of appeal. Your shapes are horrible in general. The worst kind of beg that I would never wish on anyone, honestly.

>>6214803
Why don't you show us your sense of appeal?

>>6214813
You're beyond hope if you can't even see what I mean from this >>6208042 or any of his other pictures.

>>6214817
And you’re beyond cope.

>>6214819
HOW DARE YOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU

>>6214824
Yes. How dare me indeed.

>>6214750
Cute! Also, you look familiar, please share your blog.

>>6214965
He's 2k's apprentice.

>>6214966
That can't be true, because 2k's apprentice is ME.

Cringe.

>>6214986
jealous rage

>>6215213
Can you train me?

>>6215213
square pussy strikes again

study I started a decade ago and never finished
now I'm off to fix my broken composition

Where are you my lsg fellas

>>6215240
the best part

>>6215311
Booger UOOOOH!!! Peasant erotic!! Peasant feet and arms!!! Erotic...

>>6215213
damn, that's a really good body. you've improved a lot recently

>>6215360
cute, but why no feet?
>>6215725
cute but unfinished feet

>>6215725
best in the thread

>>6215725

Looking for critiques on my newest drawing

>>6216075
Use reference.

>>6215213

>>6216314

>>6216412
now draw them having seggs

>>6216491
If you are really implying that darkseid, even in loli form would ever in a million years break the spirit of the person she wishes to dominated and what she pleases she totally wound't do it. It's just not what the character is about.

>>6216706
Really nice.
Maybe her left foot needs more definition around the ankle.

>>6216706
Good job putting in the effort. Clavicle line is not quite correct.

>>6216706
why are you still tracing years later?

>>6216706
Maybe it's me, but the face feels like it's facing the viewer, but the features on the left side (the eye mostly) are deformed as if the face was angled.

>>6209355
I knew that and it's still funny

done, people keep telling me to add gesture, but i feel like adding more and more gesture brings the body closer to breaking and the pose looks kinda off but idk maybethis is still stiff and i'm meant to break spines

>>6217241
It feels like you just have her bend back, which indeed makes her look like her spine would break. And that arm is at a painful angle
You should twist her upper body and turn her head to convey the movement line better

>>6216314
>>6215213
I really like this my only issue is it think her far away shoulder (her left one, on our our right) shouldn't show as much as much as you made it, like I get she's raising her shoulders to lift up the donut so maybe I'm wrong about all this.

>>6217270
thanks but isn't that was gesture is?
just find a line of action and making it more extreme by bending it more?
Also you sure the arm looks uncomfortable, i can do it fine.

>>6217277
>>6217270
*isn't that what gesture is

>>6217277
>just find a line of action and making it more extreme by bending it more?
Nah, kinda the other way around. It's not about finding a line of action in your drawing that you can bend (not saying it can't work, but if your drawing is stiff, it will be awkward to bend it).
It's starting with a line of action and building your drawing around it

>>6217274
If you're going to paste a 3D model to prove a point at least torquate the limbs like the reference.

>>6217241
the balance is completely off. a line like that would be for an action pose with movement not a standing pose. check the gesture in other illustrations you like, particularly the centre of gravity.

>>6217455
that is a moving pose, like she's in the air or something, i was gonna put monokumas or stuff behing being blown up

>>6217241
Gesture is what you do at the start. Don’t overthink it.

Actually, just look at streams of manga artists and catch them in the act of drawing their name. All of that is gesture/rough sketch/noodledoodle. It’s to draw without thinking too much about structure at first because structure (starting with it) stiffens the pose. So if you’re being told to add gesture then it might be because you’re overbalancing one over the other.

>>6217460
i always start with a line of action foor the gestures. but get told it's stiff, so i ended up with this.
'll look at streams though, thanks

>>6217241
>people keep telling me to add gesture, but i feel like adding more and more gesture brings the body closer to breaking
It depends on the picture, but adding more gesture doesn't necessarily mean bending her more.
Usually in your drawings your girls are already bending too much (imo).
Like, even if you draw a girl on a very simple pose, like just sitting, you tend to make them bend to the point where they almost break.
In short, "add more gesture" shouldn't mean "bend her more", it depends on the picture but it could mean that she's too stiff and needs to relax.
And like the other anons pointed out, the balance is off, I think this is a common issue too.
>>6217462
I remember your previous work, and I agree, in fact I was one of the anons telling you they looked stiff.
Consider bending them less that you are doing now, you can always play around with the arms and hair, playing around with the back too much is what makes you loose balance imo.

>>6217473
sorry i'm confused, i normally draw a line of action to the flow of the body and then construct off of that.
what am i meant to be doing?
Even in the figure drawing general they told me to bend the body until it broke and line of action sometimes isn't good enough, so i'm just really lost from the different critiques i'm getting

>>6217490
>>6217473
*what am i meant to be doing to add proper gesture?

>>6217490
What do you think? Do you think this girl >>6217241 is properly bent? Bending too much / lost balance? Or too stiff?
I can give you critique but it's gonna be based on ho I think she should be drawn. Ultimately it's up to what you want.
I think an initial line of action is fine, just make sure to keep balance in mind.
The girl in your drawing is not too unbalanced imo, provided the horizon line is not horizontal (I mean, I assume the picture is drawn as if the viewer was at an angle, if the ground is actually meant to be horizontal there then she's definitely falling behind), but I do agree this is usually something you struggle with

>>6217499
yeah i drew it with a skewed horizon line cause i wanted her jumping at the start with things in the back or just her on the ground with the camera on the ground looking up at the sky with things flying at her but just dropped that idea since it seemed like too much work.
still thanks i'll try to work on balance

>>6217505
You could always do studies.
When it comes to gesture it can be from a photo / picture of anything, since you are focusing on it and not proportions.

lmfao

>>6217532
?

made a logo
for use

>>6217241
I don't think you know what gesture means.

>>6217553
I think you're gaslighting him to confuse him. Post your gesture and if you don't I think the OP artist should start ignoring any further advice.

>>6207643

>>6217556
You don't understand what gesture means either if you want me to post gesture. Tip: gesture is not gesture drawing.

>>6217581

Yeah, it's safe to ignore this retard.

>>6217584
Malding

where is the bug spray when you need it

>>6204719
What child? It's a ficticious cartoon character

>>6217761
What crime? It's a preemptive thought in my head.

>>6217553
>>6217581
Trying to explain the language of gesture to these guys is like showing a technologically illiterate boomer a smart phone. The boomer understands the smart phone being a phone you may use to communicate but fails to utilize the phone itself since you have to navigate through the phone in order to place a call from a process and series of steps to reach a destination. Gesture is some what similar in the sense it's part of a process though it is strictly methodical where you have to mentally experience the mechanics behind a figure, what you're trying to convey from the figure and what message it's sending. In other words it's purely a visual body language that demands understanding of rhythm, flow, balance, and patterns you perceive from a figure. If you are not aware of the subtle signs behind gesture you end up with >>6217241 an awkward, stiff and unbalanced figure that would have easily been avoided if you had just simply taken the pose and found out that you would have been completely out of balance, in pain, and uncomfortable which is exactly what his issue is therefore you end up with a bad drawing that should have been corrected from the very start before adding forms. You don't just mindlessly draw lines and call it a gesture and work from them you have to always be thinking about the mechanics of balance, movement, and how form is both distorted by perspective and compressed or pulled depending on what you're trying to draw. This post may be another wall of text to you, whether you ignore it or look deeper into what gesture is will entirely depend your willingness to change your perception.

>>6217790
A whole lot of bullshit written and no substance of value. Followed with a nipshit anime screencap from a show that aired when I was in my last year of high school.

dunning kruger general

>>6217796
go back to futanari general

>General with the best artists on the whole board
>Lsg
How?

>>6217795
A whole lot of cope in that post.

>>6217803
okay miku

>>6217801
That was true when 2k used to post here. Only one good artist remains here now that 2k is gone.

>>6217808
>Only one good artist remains here
Yeah, that would be me.

>>6217808
i'm not talking objectively about good or bad artist. i compare other generals to this one and it seem that people here atleast trying to draw good

>>6217815
not being able to easily make money from it filters out those who don't really care about drawing

>>6217812
Maybe if everyone else left.

>>6217823
What's with your fixation on getting everyone to leave? I really don't care that much...but you do.

>>6213990
what keys to drawing does to a mf

>>6217827
You don't care if they leave. That's why you can afford to shitpost so much.

>>6217828
i never opened this book

>>6217833

You're the one doing that, not me. Why would I shitpost in my own bed.

>>6217835
K2Ds information is universal

>>6213990
her arm is slightly too long

The guy starting shit hates loli and this is his way of purging the board of it.
Nothing can convince me otherwise.
I mean if you guys won't budge when somebody wants you to die or suffer for liking 2d anime kids, why are you bothered by this faggot of all things?
Does he literally have to say 2d is the same as real shit for you to take a fucking hint?
ffs

>>6217846
lolibros....
>>>>/pol/391336580

>>6217849
It was a combination of the 2 that influenced the sentencing, not just drawn images.

>>6217846
Nobody "budges" for that guy, either. It's obvious talks to himself until someone bites like what I'm doing right now. I mean, you could be him talking in 3rd person.

>talk about cunny
>people quit

>>6218027
>Discussing cunny on a WORK server
Geez, I like cunny, but that should be an immediate firing

>>6218027
>Locker room talk
>har har grab her by the pussy
>Random Foid happens to over hear the banter, takes anything and everything literally
>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>Being the natural Karen all biocunts are, composes "evidence" creating an issue out from thin air
>Wonders why other Men in the work place does not want to talk to her, wants nothing to do with her, and avoids her like a plague
>Queue in a blog post about the sexist hostile man splanning - toxic masculinity ridden workplace environment
>NU-Males come in droves, start simping and beta orbiting
>SLAAAAAAAAAAAAY
>Company starts being canceled, people get laid off, lives ruined
We live in a society.

>>6218027
So the bitch tried to get people fired and I'm guessing it didn't work and she had to leave because no one wanted to work with a backstabbing, vindictive cunt.
People need to know better than to shoot the shit with women, they can incredibly petty and vindictive, keeps things professional with women at work and keep them at a distance, it's not worth the potential trouble, only with the guys can you actually be a human with.

>>6218039
No, it should be normalized. Don't let the trannies rule our lives.

>>6218127
If you normalize it, it'll become the norm for gays to tell everyone at work how much they like sucking dicks. Oh wait, it's already happening.
Just be civilized and keep your sexual preferences to yourself when you're in a professional setting

>>6218135
it wasn't a professional setting it was completely unrelated and side thing.
why should workplaces babysit them employees outside of work hours and something they never told them to do?

>>6218144
>"On nintendo's teams server"
Sure. Unrelated.

>>6217274
is this blender that you use for posing ?

>>6218253
that’s clip studio paint

>>6218151
it's for off topic non- work related shit.

>>6218281
Sure. Like your workplace's break room.

That's not where you work, but it's still your workplace

>>6218287
No, the break room is a physical place that has other uses and talk is the one of them.
No it's more like if they were outside in an alley on the side of the building just for shit talking and someone entered it not liking shit talk then complained about it and tried getting people fired.
That person would be an insufferable cunt despite the fact that they were still on company property while doing this.

can you queers get back to posting art?

>>6218353
You first. You won't.

>>6218345
But that side alley would still be on company's grounds.
Shit talk all you want, but not at work. Or at least not where people can hear you (and yes, that include public areas and chatrooms)
Is it that hard not to be a degenerate?

>>6217241
>adding more and more gesture brings the body closer to breaking
If somebody tells you to add more gesture it's likely that the girl is stiff, or the drawing is boring. It doesn't mean you have to arch her back more.
See pic related for example, her back is not very bent, but the gesture works fine.

>>6218356
you’d just call it shit, so no.

>>6218412
Probably, but don't tell people to post if you aren't willing to post yourself.

>>6218423
>probably
Is that hesitancy I smell on your breath? It’s either yeah or no, not maybe. Good that you fear my abilities.

>>6218429
Oh, it's the schizo. No, I wouldn't call it shit, but I would block the thumbnail at the network level so I don't have to see it.

>>6218438
Do that. Plug yourself into lala land. Wouldn’t want to crush your spirits knowing how far I have ascended as a God in drawing.

>>6218440
Yes, you've indeed mastered the art of making repulsive drawings.

>>6218444
Quake. Tremble. Duck for cover. You’re in the presence of a King.

schizo nodraw general

>>6218454
>talk about cuny
>no mention of schizo stuff
>talk about small banter about art
>schizophrenic !

strange how this works

>Stable Diffusion public release any day now
>only needs a single GPU with 10GB VRAM to run
>already trained on lolis both real and imaginary
OH NO NO NO NO NO WE GOT TOO COCKY LOLIBROS

>>6218649
Nice AI bait, but sauce?

>>6217241
The day you discover that the neck can bend plenty ways from the head and down to the shoulder is the day you master gesture. Now get to copying already like the countless anons above have told you to, you retard.

study the loli. copy the loli. imagine the loli.

>>6218682
Studying from KBRG?

>>6217274
Better?
I'm trying to focus on the hair for this one, but it's a pain.

>>6218716
Yeah, it looks much better!
More importantly, does the butt wing girl get off if I stroke her butt wings? Can she cum from it?

>>6218265
thanks

>>6204858
I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but just know that things can get quite funky with elipses when you put them in perspective.

If you're asking why the squares themselves are not getting smaller as they approach the vanishing point, it's because this is one point perspective(one single vanishing point) and the horizontal and vertical planes are perpendicular and not effected (Only the z-axis/depth is affected by the vanishing point).

our fav artist supports cunny!

Can this pass off as a loli (14)?

>>6218885
most people would consider them one, that said, /a/ and /ic/ try to gatekeep so idk
Also maybe just shorten the torso a bit, it looks a bit too long unless you stylise and make other stuff really long or short too

>>6218716
how did you pose them from that angle?
Did you set up vanishing points and all that or did you use some models?

can somebody explain the joke or meme?
Does it mean she was killed?
Is that's like a wanted posted of that man and they're protecting the child's identity
Is it like a porno to hide the girl's identity?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100493468

>>6218885
Seems a bit smol for 14...
Though to be fair, when it comes to anime, there are no real rules for matching ages with appearances

>>6218885
there are no rules and likeness is subjective. There are obvious characteristics that would make any drawing NAL but if you want to make your lolis look like that then do so.

>>6218912
Interesting how some artists from this thread show up in the below recommended and i’m on a private tab. What kind of botnet sorcery is this?

>>6218885
Yes and its actually pretty good. Would love to see you colour it.

>>6218889
Oh yeah I like them skinny but I probably overdid it here. No wonder the nipple felt a little too low. I adjusted her torso length now.

>>6218930
>>6218951
True. Somehow to me most traditional lolis look like 10-12 to me and I can't pass mine off as since they are quite tall so that's why I went for 14.

>>6219039
Thank you. Unfortunately this was done as part of a construction practice, so I can only do a quick shading.

>>6218912
yes

>>6219150
Simple colors, but cute

>>6218890
None, I did it from imagination. I've drawn in that angle before, I usually struggle a lot if I try to go even further down.

>>6219150
She looks 12 to me. Her belly button is too low so it makes her torso look too long.

>>6219150
Looks pretty cute. I agree about the belly button being too low, but also her left arm feels stiff

I love drawing cunny lolibros

>>6219275
Nice jack

>>6219275
Looks ponsuke inspired

>>6219465
just say the eyes are retarded

>>6207276
!!!!!! So you don't draw got it

>>6219487
take your meds

I feel like I’m going to be beg forever. I started drawing May and it seems like I’m stuck at this point. Maybe I’m rushing too much. Feel free to laugh and call me shit it makes me want to try harder.

>>6219678
If you've started recently you have plenty of studying to do, plain and simple.
If you are stuck, considering focusing on one aspect at the time.
Are you copying from some artist? Studying any fundamental?

>>6219695
>Are you copying from some artist?
No, everything I draw is from my head. should I start trying to copy an artist I like?
>Studying any fundamental?
No. I thought about picking up an anatomy book or something though. I sometimes try and do some gesture drawings and drawing heads from different angles.
Overall I am happy with my progress but its terrible looking at my drawings and it looking like something a tranny uploaded to their deviant art.

>>6219711
I think it's a good idea to build a visual library.
Some people say you should copy, or study from an artist, or study from books.
I don't know what would work best for you, but if you are stuck may as well try something new.
>Overall I am happy with my progress but its terrible looking at my drawings and it looking like something a tranny uploaded to their deviant art.
I'll advise you to focus more on the process of drawing rather than the drawing itself.
A.k.a. learn to enjoy doing a drawing regardless of how it comes out, it usually takes years before the outcome looks good, if you don't enjoy the process it's gonna too frustrating to push forward and you may end up giving up.

>>6219678
You started drawing in May? You'll be stuck in beg for a few more months, at least.
There's no shame in that. Learning is a long process

>>6219711
>No
>No
Well, that's why you're stuck.

new general?

lolidrawfags... https://discord.gg/UHcPQZjf

>>6218885
Lolis are strictly 5~12.
Anyone who says otherwise is a summerfag who tried to deny that after finding about internet after 2010.

>>6221598
If gets to page 10 and no one creates I will. But I warn you that I always fuck up something.

>>6222035
says you and only losers like you

>>6222043
I’m the usual OP. I’m taking a vacation from making these threads to step away for a while.

I’ll still peak in here to see the art, though not as frequently right now. So go ahead and make the thread in the meantime.

>>6222488
Newthread.

>>6216706
uuhhh... blog?

>>6215311
Can you post the ref anon.

>>6215725
very momoesque