/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

how'd he do it?

>>6202559
>how'd he do it?
I'd imagine he etched or engraved them or passed them off to a craftsman. What does your own research say?

>>6202563
These were all done with pen and ink.

For me, it's Joseph Clement Coll

>>6202557
Reminds me of that jumping tiger video

probably the most technically skilled inker to have ever lived
better than durer

>>6202563
pen and ink; he learnt by copying etchings, thinking they were pen & ink

>>6202644
I think too; there's nobody else that even remotely come close. Things like >>6202581 just aren't the same at all, they're not as clean, not as well-designed, nor performed as deeply.

It's still technically good, but Booth really sits on top

>>6202685
If all you care about is clean lines and autism, sure, Booth is better, but Coll has movement, drama, emotion. He makes Booth's work look like posed statues by comparison.

>>6202690

>>6202685
>pen and ink; he learnt by copying etchings, thinking they were pen & ink
He's just like me, if I never realized they were etchings and stopped lol

>>6202644
The average renaissance artist had better hatchings. It's just that Booth is tonalistic which appeals to more artists today.
Renaissance hatching also seems more like a natural result of just how they drew. Modern uatchings seem to be more about stylistic quirk.

>>6202685
Wrightson comes pretty close imo.

>>6202690
"Clean" in the sense that Coll's lines look rushed, noisy: he doesn't have the same degree of control/patience than Booth and it shows. And I'd argue that this advanced control is harder to reach, hence is the result of more advanced skills.

He doesn't have the same control over value either (from the two examples you've posted; I don't know his work in depth)

Regarding the figures, this is debatable:the subjects matters often are very different, and thus required to be treated accordingly.

For instance, the following is a pipe organ ads, his treatment of the subject matter is excellent, Coll's style wouldn't have been as adapted:

https://imgur.com/gallery/gnNSkME

>>6203490
Just keep lying to yourself (double-pun intended)

>>6203887
Indeed!

>>6203959
>Just keep lying to yourself (double-pun intended)
I think I might just do that, it's such a cool style and now I know it's actually possible.

>>6202559
Draw something but with little lines, make lines thicker where values are darker, done

>>6204447
Yeah it's possible, but daunting; good luck (I was thinking of going through some Guptill plates today, as a warm-up)

>>6202554
Can AI replicate this? Can someone with access to midjourney or dalle give it a go?

i like charles dana gibson alotl
also where would i find more art by booth? of courses im googling and getting every pic i can find but would there happen to be any large sort of image collections for artists like these that you know of? also for gibson too

How should you hold the pen to get these beautiful long parallell lines?

>>6206629
theres some ebooks
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=charles+dana+gibson&submit_search=Go%21

le random cross hatching
le skill

>>6206805
its pretty cool right

>>6206805
>random
Idiot

>>6206805
they aren't random, they vary in tone and follow the forms

>>6202554
Gustave Doré is my favorite

>>6206776
Nothing special about the holding I guess: make yourself comfy, allow to use full arm motion, and learn to draw long with multiple smaller ones.

>>6203490
Why would you stop? Is it taboo to make sketch in etch style? I do the same and see no problem if the end result looks good

>>6207729
I agree with you, at the time it just seemed kind of futile to do it with a pen and figured I should learn to do actual etchings if I wanted to do that style.