/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6198122
Do a lot of studies from real life photos and good artist's works. Analyze how wrinkles and folds are simplified. The key skill is to be able to convey form and flow with fewer lines/strokes.

Щ

Well, that was a difficult angle. The problems I can see: hairs are flat, pinkie is broken, collar is in a wrong perspective, necktie looks wonky, blazer's rendering looks dirty. Also not sure about values, maybe need to push darks further. Any crits are welcome.

>>6198303
138/1000

>>6198507
this looks really weird, post reference

>>6198306
>you can't just throw in straight blue because....you just can't okay!!
lmoa

>>6198546
I just used a 3d model. The closest thing I found is this pic, but it is not perfect

>>6198577
post the 3dpd reference

>>6198529
144/100

>>6198621
150/1000
qk

>>6198560
you missed the point...

>>6198699
>>6198621
>>6198529
it's cute that you are practining bro, but if you are gonna post every excersice you make and not even ask questions related to it, is just plain spam, you are just wasting posts/images cmon dont be a fag.

>>6198707
A retard translated by retards has no point to make.

Anyone know where I can get the Krenz Accuracy exercises at?

>>6198714
Shut the fuck up

>>6198478
which pen on clip studio paint can give me lines like these?

>>6198944
just like use a hard round brush (or any brush) and turn off pen pressure

>>6198744
>ad hominem
Concession Accepted

>>6198699
156/1000

>>6198699
I'm pretty sure you've heard this way too many times anon but you should practice how to make a continuous line where each stroke connects with one another and avoid chicken scratches/flat spots. Or using multiple straight lines to "carve" complex curves, which could also help you to develop an understanding towards the importance of angles. Then again there's no "one size fits all" solution but it's worth giving it a shot.

Also, It'd help if you could pack multiple exercises into a single sheet so you can avoid spamming 12 drills per post.

>>6198859
Click OP's youtube link and scroll down through the description, it's got a short link to the exercise zip files.

>>6199193
well if you're going to keep posting these then i guess i should at least tell you to learn the difference in how to write ン (n) and ソ (so)

Didn't go well with the girl on the right but whatever

>>6198478
I like it, but the eyes could be space better.
They're too close to the center of the face.

>>6198507
How did you manage to make a picture with so many errors and yet get all the way to the coloring stage?

>>6198529
>>6198621
>>6198699
>>6199193
Not /asg/ related. Make your own thread, especially if you're gonna ignore other anons trying to interact with you.

>>6199227
Sensational, post process please

>>6199227
Also book recommendations and brush settings, I enjoyed very much this style of yours

>>6198933
he's right though

Any videos or tips where I can learn to render like this?

Anyone know a good fate artist that i can consistenly study the style with?

>>6199522
its just a matter of preference
just pick an artist you really like

>>6199522
Punopupupu

Why is drawing mouths so difficult

>>6199193
180/1000
and some quick sketches(anime related) :)
Good Night!

>>6199419
>>6199422
Thank you, but my process is nothing unique. I basically do sketch, clear it. Throw basic colors under sketch, paint over with 2 brushes - round brush with and without opacity and i can use air brush in some specific situations like with the suit on the left. I use fkeys work as reference for rendering and faces.
I do render in more traditional fashion tho, like i paint with patches of color rather than using layer modes etc. I was like this since forever and it always seemed natural to me compared to cell shading.
I read some books but they are just random books from sticky. Hampton, perspective made easy, a little bit of robertson, peter han, read some random anime books from artbooks and watched a bunch of random courses like prokos anatomy course.

>>6199976
Cute, but sloppy. Keep going Anon, the soul is there.

>>6191390
Could also be one of those "lettering" brushes japanese artists use for text effects.

>>6199986
I asked the artist directly lol
He did some modifications, but this is the brush.
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1687935
and the artist
https://twitter.com/herioscope/status/1519198238326149120
thx anyway

I still can't see the form.
I see lines and curves, but they're not converging.

I don't have CSP or Sai.
My name? NGMI.

>>6200108
>can't download them for free on almost every torrent tracker
truest NGMI

How do you start drawing a head?
Loomis? Something different?

>>6200113
But from where? And what crack actually works?
>>6200116
Loooomis and something else as well.

>>6200120
>something else
Huh? Can you be more specific bro?

>>6200122
What do you want to hear? There are so many other tutorials for drawing heads, like Hide.

>>6200126
Ah he still uses the Loomis method.

>>6200127
See, now you understand.

>>6200116
by drawing something roughly head shaped.

>>6200144
My favorite method is the Steve Huston 'sailboat shape'. It's simple and effective. No retarded overcomplicated construction.

https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg

>>6200144
I don't get it, I try this and it looks all dumb and stupid instead!?

>>6200243
thats just the western style

>>6200243
because you can't draw apparantly

>>6200096
>I asked the artist directly lol
nta
but can you ask the artist of pic related, please?
>https://twitter.com/takatsuyo320
he's the author of heart gear and im quite curious about what brushes/pens he used

>>6199752
Sensational man, thank you and may God keep blessing you and your loved ones

Tourist from the furry thread here here. I got banned from most furry servers so I'm joining anime drawing instead. Here's my second attempt.

>>6200414
I would'vs call it good if it had an actually apealing anime face rather than shitty western furry face
Find a new way to draw eyes pls

>>6200415
Do you have any good examples I can use to study?

I never drew western furshit. I always went for kemono style.

>>6200427
Just keep drawing kemono. Only westoid furries are cringe.

>>6200429
I cant, I got banned from literally everywhere that allows posting of furshit. I think theres more money to be made with animu shit than fur shit anyway. Or at the very least its a good way to adquire growth from normies. Thats why Im starting with genshin.

>>6200243
use reference

>>6200427
Study Gorou from Genshin Impact.

Is it OK to draw 150 cm character with 1:5 head ratio or it will looks to little?

>>6200236
I don't like Huston's way of drawing heads because you can't apply it to everything

>>6200654
use the pin2d method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1JsOnJDCac&list=PLC1w0JHZX_rhdv__lLHVhEoHb5j6LOvrD&index=2

>>6200645
Why the fuck you need to measure something that precise? just draw it so it looks apealing
trial and error is the only way

Can someone help me with the arms and hands here? It's still just a rough sketch but the arms and face look weird.

however much the background slaves were paid in the full trad days, it wasn't enough. these scenes are impossible.

>>6200431
How the fuck did you get banned everywhere in the first place?

>>6200981
Some woman told me that she was just as much of a grown as man as me. I disagreed. That's all it took.

>>6200935
Source?

>>6199608
doing these bullshit scribbles is exactly why you wont improve
yet another /beg trap

>>6201227

>>6201144

>>6201318
Thanks.

>>6200672
Thanks for sharing this bro

>>6200116
Unironically I use Loomis. A bit modified for anime but my foundation is still Loomis.

You guys realize that popular pixiv artists usually have fucktons of 3DCG poses, real-life poses and so on to directly reference and paste their own spin, right?

You don't ACTUALLY "invent the poses in your head" like a retard, right?

>>6200116
I'm draw a cheek contour I like at the moment, then the FWAP-like construct to align the eyes.
>>6201426
Akihito Yoshitomi invents poses in his head. At lest he don't show the ref in drawing videos.

Where do u guys find environment/buildings to study perspective with?

>>6201499
Outside

>>6201426
It’s funner from imagination, you don’t do this shit for money, do you?

>>6201570
>you don’t do this shit for money, do you?
I do, in fact.
I am a valuable member of society and not a parasitic leech.

>>6201573
Then I guess you got to use whatever means necessary to make your art as fast as possible while us hobbyfriends can fuck around with imagination.

>>6198478
I really need help with drawing hair
How did you guys learn that?

What brush do you think SSAmbatea uses for lineart? He only ever gave a generic "hard round" response but there's no way I can get close to that tapered, gel pen like look with any settings on Krita.

>>6201576
Just drawing hair or rendering?
You abstract hair to big clumps that move 3-dimensionally.
Details (smaller hair clumps, never draw single strands for anime) are conveyed through shading.
For practice, just choose a number of artists and copy their heads, while only drawing their hair.

Realistic rendering of cartoon hair is tough, but I know an obscure Youtube creator who made some cool tutorials and streams.

>>6201577
>Krita

>>6201578
I recently understood the part about reducing hair to big clumps, but I have difficulty when deciding what volumes to create

I feel like an idiot, if im not copying a hairstyle from a reference i get stumped, or draw a very simple hairstyle because if I try to get fancy it looks bad.

I think that to get decent hair i have to paint it in layers, so first i paint/render one clump of hair, then another one that partially covers the previous one because it's in front, etc. I can't draw elaborate hair with lines. The way I do it is not time efficient, it takes me forever compared to other people

>>6201591
> I can't draw elaborate hair with lines.
Can you give an example of what you mean? What is an example of elaborate hair?

>>6201426
Where do you find good real life references? I don't want to spend hours digging through terabytes of softcore porn and cosplay photoshoots to find something.

>>6201599
https://boomba.club/1454-erotic-photos-of-girls-with-standing-tits.html
https://boomba.club/52124-nude-woman-pose.html

>>6201595
For example, something like this would take me forever, if im even able to do it

I would go back and forth erasing it and drawing again

>>6201602
This is good, but also trying to find semi-clothed references

>>6201595
>>6201604
This one would be easier, but still hard enough that it would take way longer than it should to make it look appealing

Thats why i ask if theres any tutorial or book that you guys felt helped yiu learn how to draw appealing hair without taking forever with it, or does it just come down to practice

>>6201604
I get what you mean, but if you change the way you approach it you can certainly make it more manageable. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_56X2rpHCs

>>6201607
I don't get it.
What's hard about this?

Download Koikatsu, try out different hair option, make screenshots, create a hair compilation with your screenshots.
Do this for front view, 3/4th view and side view.

This should be very easy to practice. Koikatsu hair comes in big lumps of hair stacked on just a couple of layers, which is perfect, since that's how hair is usually constructed.

I need help figuring out the glow stuff please, any guess how it was used in this painting?
Can you draw the whites on one layer, duplicate it and change the layer properties to add (glow) + Gaussian Blur like I understood from tutorials?

Well it looks like shit if I'm trying to recreate the left one, I'm confused about how to get the white/yellow "bleeding" into the grass or clouds. I think I don't get the color-relations with the glow layers or something.

It seems this was one of the earlier works from the artist, so I'm feeling stupid for not getting this at all lol

>>6201684
I'm not really knowledgeable but can't you simply paint these with a very low opacity brush.

>>6201716
Yes that makes more sense on my current level, before wasting too much time on this, now I'm trying to airbrush some parts.
Found out that the grass isn't glowing because I put the grass-layer above the gaussian-blur/glow-layer haha.
I think the yellow bits are created by crossing bright colors with the darker ones somehow.

>>6201637
>>6201639
Thank you guys, you gave me something new to try. Hopefully it helps me improve. Thanks!

>>6201637
This was very helpful, non. Thanks!

Fuck it, I'm just going to start with my hentai comic.
I'm sick of delaying it until "I get good". I'll start with the first chapter's storyboard and draw my first page today.

>>6201907
The right way. If you delay things like that "until you get good enough" you will never begin
Other note, does anyone know if you can watch pixiv live vods? If so, where?

>>6201922
>Other note, does anyone know if you can watch pixiv live vods? If so, where?
no

Is it reasonable to expect to get on this level as a no-art hobbiest? The more art I do the more I feel like there's an infinite amount of shit I'm never going to be able to master effectively unless I spend 8 hours a day on it. My only real goal is to be able to draw anime girls to this level of quality but I don't even know if this is considered 'good' or mediocre. I like it but I feel like art people can probably find issues with it.

>>6202164
you're not japanese
you will NEVER draw anime
your art will ALWAYS look westoid

>>6202183
I guess it's a good thing that drawing was done by a Canadian (of Korean descent)?

>>6202164
>>6202219
Ina is an anomaly you know, bunch of artists like Kuroboshi and Pako always compliment her speed and shes only really there with basically 15~ years of drawing reps.

>>6202164
Aaaaa, why is a cartoon squid better at art than I am!?

Does anyone have the files from
>>5799166
saved? It looks very promising but the gofile is dead
I think it's different from
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/156iAVMZXqMjZ5Acj3eTNhcz7V8bPpklE?usp=sharing

>>6202320
If you mean the big archive, it's notion notes from Krenz's main courses and a few bonus workshops and lectures, while the google drive is homework files for krenz kindergarten pre-course accuracy bootcamp ran by some other people.

Is there a Krenz study group? I want to go through accuracy (weeks 1-4, skipping the dlc) and then start on perspective, but I could use some extrinsic motivation.

>>6201599
https://film-grab.com/
look for movies you like aesthetically and draw from them. its a pretty good exercise, especially if you're into film.

>>6202367
>while the google drive is homework files for krenz kindergarten pre-course accuracy bootcamp ran by some other people.
You mean the one I linked? I thought it was a pre-course by Victor cloux for his own course or something like that. The dead link indicates there were weeks 1-6 whereas the drive has 1-4 7-8 in it, so I was hoping some anon would have the 5-6, as well as the pdf (though I think it might just be his book).
If you want to go through the weeks 1-4 in the drive I mentioned I'm up for that too.

>>6202378
Ah yeah you're right, I mixed them up because I've skimmed through most of this guy's channel today and he's done a bit of both
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoY-XTypQi0LTpsp9zMgrxg/videos
I suppose now I've got to reexamine what's the synergy between the two things.

I don't know exactly what you're looking for but it might be this?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wSC5WkCg4Hr576LF47CyueODDWEST0eC

>>6202415
Oh yeah that does have the 5-6 weeks and some useful doc, thank you. So is this what you wanted to go through, or were you talking about a different accuracy course by krenz? Cause if it's this then I'd like to have a buddy to go through it with, otherwise then that's too bad. If it's a different thing could you share files for it too? Assuming there are any and it's not some cctalk group or something

>>6202281
I've been drawing for the same amount of time but a lot of time wasted due to lack of discipline and aimlessly drawing without a goal in mind. It really is all about focused practice to get the speed and consistency. I mean if you don't really care and want to just get good gradually and at your own pace that's not wrong either. But damn I wish I hadn't wasted so much time only to cram it all now trying to get good.

>>6201599
get a gf

>>6202605
or become a woman
https://twitter.com/biya1024/status/1485051940358991881

>>6202605
My SMV is low, that's not an option

>>6202650
Step one to increasing it is to stop listening to anybody who talks about shit like SMV.

>>6202686
I'm a social recluse who has no friends and can't relate to anyone but this is a bigger issue not for this thread.

>>6202609
shes such an anomaly, I have seen so many of these cute girls drawing just abandon art and turn into full time sex worker as soon as they get a crumb of popularity

Is it looks westoid? (VERY lazy sketch, sorry).

>>6202818
>she

>>6202605
For what? To listen how you mentally ill bastard to do this with GF and drop drawing because of this? Sounds like a plan!
>>6202609
No need, if you don't draw wariza (boys can't). Anyway there should be a tons of refs for wariza pose so it's not a problem.

Crazy how she got 700k in no time when her art is just ok, even for an nsfw artist top tier to get 500k takes at least 5-6 years.
krenz was right...

What artists should I study to learn how to draw massive heavy breasts?

>>6202838
>To listen how you mentally ill bastard to do this with GF and drop drawing because of this?
What?

>>6202852
It really doesn't mean much. Guys are just into seeing her crotch and enjoy the ecchi art coupled with it. Unless she plans to go to the next level she'll get forgotten overnight if she stops for too long because nothing about it all is special or unique when taken apart.

>>6201639
Should I get KK or KKS?
I don't want to "play" the game but I want to see about using it to pose characters in scenes etc. Do KK and KKS have the same amount of buildings etc or is it completely different? It's a bit of a pain to install both to make sure considering how big the filesizes are.

Any idea what types of brushes does Namaniku ATK use for his drawings? He uses the pixelated pen often which is very recognizable, but on top of that what types of brushes would you guess he uses?

>>6203114
Looks like he's colored pic in /5 resolution, then did x5 zoom and polished render. You need to store hi-res line separate to do this. (Only my hypotheses).

>>6202281
>>6202535
qrd?

experimenting with colouring
instead of just lineart + using the fill tool I'm doing brushstrokes over everything. really fun, feels like painting

>>6202852
she got a buff from her bf kimpring and his circle, heck even surpassed him in followers and stream viewers
doubt they were even dating, just a plot to get her followers. her style is also similar to him as well.

>>6200672
Neat. Part 5 is missing from the playlist, is there another upload?

>>6198478
i did not expect to see dondon in /ic/ out of all places

>>6203209
yt dont allow new accounts to upload more than 10 videos a day.
I will upload the rest tmw
anyway
hair tutorial
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC1w0JHZX_rg6vzsFIKsmGOj48gRWGFan

Look for 60 seconds and try to draw what you've just memorized.

>>6203251

>>6203252
Recreate the drawing 12 hours later to strengthen your grip on the subject.
Щ

anyone have the psd homework for the krenz color course?

What am I doing wrong bros? I just want to be able to draw cute girls...Give me your worst

>>6200672
>>6203234
Did Pin2D delete their older videos or something? I remember hoarding/organizing their stuff back then.

>>6203403
is there supposed to be a cute girl under all of the noise filter?

>>6202431
Turns out it's linked at the very bottom of the description of that one subtitled lecture on yt. It's mostly a ton of drawings to copy.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jVCHLg_4Z14e7FJGlp6MhjV__aliKDwx/view
I compared the Pre-Course with what I want to learn from Krenz and for now I think I'm only interested in using 单体结构 sheets to try disassembling and turning objects in perspective. The squiggles are grindy and tedious compared to copying drawings, which is a compound exercise, and in the end Victor Cloux just isn't anime.

>>6203403
(By left, I mean on her body, not the image)

I feel like you overemphasized the fold on her left arm. You also drew the front of her left shoe incorrectly. Notice in the image how the tip of the shoe rises upward and isn’t completely flat like you drew it. I should be seeing the bottom of the shoe from the perspective you drew. Her body also just isn’t very feminine as it isn’t curvy enough and the abdomen area just looks very masculine. Other than that, I appreciate this and the colors used, good job

>>6203055
I have no idea. Someone else has to give you an answer. I am just using the f95 repack.

>set clip studio to save every 15 minutes
>its a little annoying
>it didnt even save my drawing after a blue screen
stupid shit

>>6203561
Retina Macbook Pros don't have this problem

>>6203597
but it has many others

>>6198478
does anybody know what's the brush being used here for the shadowing of sking and the dress?
thank you in advance

>>6203604
literally a normal round brush no mixing

How an I doing??

>>6203786
>4kx2k
Is tracing funny at all?

>>6203790
>tracing
What's it like being retarded?

#3 #4 #5,
~5-10 minutes each, I missed some lines completely but the point was to get a general grasp of anime proportions and shapes right?

Can't force myself to make a finished piece for days just scribbling random shit

Let's study!

>>6203413
yes, there was some big scandal nobody cared about and a bunch of videos were deleted in the process

>>6201599
Get yourself one of these 1/3 scale ball jointed dolls

>>6203955
do you know a good source of these? I dont want to get a shitty one from aliexpress

>>6203893
>filename
so it's a trace or what, and they too shitty to say anything, if proportions was your goal then whjy the fuck don't you finish it it doesn't have to be polished but not this, also shapes? that doesn't matter at all you could transform a stickman into a huge semen demon if you knew how to

>>6203966
yep they're traces. I'm trying to learn how anime proportions work and learn some anime hair and expressions while I'm at it.

>>6203961
Nah, I live near chinkland so AliExpress is the only option I know of.

https://youtu.be/FZyFN99WNG0

>trying to copy the genshin impact style
>get the idea to download the game models so I can use them for proportion and lighting references
>the models even with simple poses and just a sun lamp look better than anything I can draw and take a fraction of the time
>having a crisis of faith and wondering if I should get into 3d stuff instead

>>6204017
Just trace models

>>6204056
But if I made models of characters I want to draw (or more likely just edited genshin models some) couldn't the computer churn out fully colored and shaded drawings with cinematic lighting much faster than I could?

>>6203978
the problem is that you are not learning, you don't how the whole muscle/body part looks like let alone how the body parts work and even more so if you are using different artists drawings , hopefully you aren't, anyway is really a waste of time if you don't know anatomy already and you arent specifically trying to learn someones style

>>6204085
>draws off construction
> if proportions was your goal then whjy the fuck don't you finish it it doesn't have to be polished but not this

>draws clean lines
> you don't how the whole muscle/body part looks like let alone how the body parts work

Well, I've tried doing gesture and figure drawing on my own before this, I don't think I have the best anatomy but it certain feels like I have enough to get started on details like hair and faces.

>>6204059
3D animu usually looks stiff and weird imo, even when really really well done like in Genshin and Fighterz
They look fine in the context of a game but in an image where people are looking more closely it usually doesn't work

>>6204113
Majority of anime is 3d now. They gotten so good most of people don't realize

>>6204120
I wouldn't be surprised if most backgrounds were 3D but I'm pretty sure the characters in most anime are still 2D. When they try 3D characters like in Berserk 2016 it's noticeable and looks bad.

>>6204090
what yiou are doing is from this pic, takeing the shapes and thinking that if you memorize them it will make you learn ''anime'' anatomy, it wont, it would turn out like the black ones, the point is knowing anatomy and then learn a style you like if thats what you want, and base your anatomy on that, you wont leanr anything by just tracing shapes, gesture is a completely different thing.

>>6204144
What would you recommend doing then? continue doing figure drawing and studying anatomy? I've been doing that and only that for the past few weeks.

>>6204155
nigga it would take you like 10h to get a decent grasp of single body part say the forearm, at least 30h-50h to be good at it, that's implying you are not wasting your time doing dumb stuff like minddlessling copy instead of analyzing it, it doesn't sound like much but it is if you only count the time your pen is drawing, and then theres the stylizing part.

practice gesture once you are done with anatomy, what are you gonna use gesture on if you can only do it with references.

>>6204173
So assuming I'm gonna have to take 10 hours on ~15 body parts, wouldn't that be 150 hours? Should I do nothing but anatomy practice for a year if I'm only practicing half an hour a day? Or 5 years if I want to be "good" at anatomy?

>>6204181
>practicing half an hour a day
ngmi

>>6204181
it's not a matter of doing it once and it's done, if you don't keep practicing it will degradate overtime as you start to forgetting, and you are not going to retain too much in 1 hour, and when i mean having a good grasp i mean that it doesnt look like it was drawn by a beginner, you should try to at least study 1h and a half and at least 1h of practice and that's assuming the study you are doing is well done, if you are going to study from a fucking proko video or tuts don't even bother, getting good references and book/s is what you are looking for.

>>6204199
>>6204184
Aite I just give up then, have a good life.

>>6204199
>proko video
sorry anon but the proko anatomy is the best anatomy course.

>>6204212
post studies

>>6204212
t. marshall

I have been grinding fundies some time now but now I realise I don't have anything I want to draw, how do I get my creativity back?

>>6204245
sorry but you cant

>>6204245
Do minddles doodling about shit you like, where you put zero effort on the fundies you grinded for so long so it doesn't get in the way of your creativity hahaha... that wouldn't be me...

>>6204245
Just draw what you like.
According to statistics 97% of 4chan users love dicks. Try drawing dicks.

>>6198478
My second or third time doing a full render. only took a year and a half. the picture took 2-3 days, is that normal?

>>6204343
Render is ok but you need to work on line variation more.

>>6204369
Good point. But line variation is so hard sometimes. I'll try it.

Couldn't get the clothes right so I added a rectangle

Pin2d Tutorials
Figure Drawing, Hairtypes, Folds and Tips
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC1w0JHZX_rhdv__lLHVhEoHb5j6LOvrD

Still missing some videos, if anyone has them, share pls.

>>6204477
You need this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjDWsPJpoXg&list=PLC1w0JHZX_rhdv__lLHVhEoHb5j6LOvrD&index=19&ab_channel=ASG

>>6200909
I completely redid this

>>6200350
damn his art is nice
but also you should ask yourself, imho. as long as you're polite, i'm sure the worst thing he'll do is say he won't tell you. also you should confirm what program he actually works in too lol. anyways though, talking to people isn't that bad

So has anyone done Krenz's exercises? I'm thinking of doing them on the side while I copy anime since I'm a new /beg/ and my current copying abilities are shit.

>>6200414
Is this supposed to be Xiao? He looks very feminine, you need to study his features better, he has a stronger jawline, the lines are a bit too soft. Other than that it's fine, the eyes could be a bit sharper though.

>>6203403
If you cut off her face and shoes, you'll see what the problem is. You're drawing her as if she had the body of a man, everything's too straight. I won't say you need more gesture, but at the very least you should use more curves, the body is made of asymmetrical parts but here everything seems purely symmetric. The face is alright though, and I like your choice of colors.

>>6204606
>So has anyone done Krenz's exercises?
>>6199608

>>6204731
No,... does he have paint brushes.

>>6199608
Are you creating those yourself or is there like a pack or something?

>>6204602
>but also you should ask yourself, imho
i honestly dont know japanese and i'm too autistic to ask because of picrel, i dont want my favorite artist to ban me

>>6204781
>Are you creating those yourself
yes
https://streamable.com/5abbeq
>>6204776
>Does he have paint brushes.
krenz?
https://krenzcushart.gumroad.com/l/OFHsG
im using default g-pen

>>6204495
Based anon!
Thanks a lot, i was practice the head with hide videos. But these videos looks more fun.

I am gonna scrap this because I don't know how to use layers properly and it's too late to do anything about now.
Is there any I would be well off knowing for my next attempt at copying? This is my first time trying to draw something.

>>6205116
>at copying

>>6205116
Do a rough sketch/gesture of the whole thing first, then care about the details.

>>6205152
Thank you, will do.

>>6204815
Cool, thanks anon.

How do I make her more unique design wise? I was thinking about doing something with her hair or clothes but I'm kinda lost here.

>>6205116
just start out tracing, you can do it

>>6205611

???

>>6204790
ah, that's really fair
you could also make an alt account and ask, even if it seems a little sus. if possibly getting blocked on an alt still deals emotional damage, uhh idk what to say lol
oh and also you can just ask in english and be really polite. keep sentences simple so google translate doesn't shit itself

>>6205116
Color goes under the line layer. Also don't be afraid to draw messy at the start. Clean lines can come later.
>>6205700
Cute colors

I haven't drawn anything in 5 months and feel I have regressed so much. How do I get out of this art block? It hurts my kokoro so much :(

Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j72qRQHwZew

Is it bad if I only want to learn anime-style shading and never get into semi-realistic shading that requires hundreds of layers? I've seen some sucesful artists who only use anime-style shading.

>>6198478
getting back to drawing

>>6205971
if youre fine with it no problem

Fucking around

>>6204207
We did it, Mr Crabs!

>>6205971
learning how to paint realistically starts with learning how to paint simply
so you can take the beginning steps of realistic painting and translate them towards anime

>>6199608
you're supposed to translate the methods of the simple exercises into the more complex stuff

>>6205971
realistic shading doesn't really require that many layers. this probably isn't quite the feel that you're going for, but apparently it's possible to get really nice results without that many layers. aaron blaise is def on some wizard shit tho so idk if this is a good reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgyCwxlaGNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5vXsIU5pv0
(skip to end if you don't want to watch the entire thing)

>>6205991
One Piece is great.

>>6204207
Don't give up, anon! You don't have to be a master to enjoy drawing, you don't even have to be good. You can take your time to gitgud while also drawing stuff you like. Not only that, but the last thing you should do is turn drawing into a chore. If all you do is study all day, of course it's gonna suck dick and you'll wanna quit, but that shouldn't be what drawing is about. Try your best to not get caught up in the "become great as efficiently as possible otherwise I've failed" meme that seems popular with everyone from guitarists to artists these days. If you can quit drawing, you don't need it to survive, so you should just take it at your own pace. You don't need to master everything before you're allowed to draw your own stuff. I mean yeah you should still study, but take some time to draw what YOU want, not what you think you should be drawing. Drawing for the sake of getting good or making it is a waste of time unless it's your sole lifeline out of poverty somehow. We live in an age where people can, in theory, pursue any hobby they desire at any time. Unironically don't let the other people get you down. Giving up a hobby that you wanted just because some people said you were wasting time or w/e. Anyways I'm basically schizoposting now. The point is, if you wanna draw, just do it. You can get better as you go along. Don't give up what could be a lifelong hobby over something as little as this.

Awoooo

Can someone point me on how should I proceed next? I'm currently learning drawing and coloring with watercolor pencil. How can I paint the small details like the pupil or folds of the clothes without making it look a blob of paint? I'm currently using my old Faber-castell watercolor pencil with included brush.

How do you draw anime eyes that show depth & form and don't just look like stickers like 90% of anime art?

>>6206512
check mangamaterials

>>6206512
Copy and trace, baby, copy and trace

>>6205671
>>6206516
Are you just here to be ironic?

>>6206522
It helped me, so why can't it help that Anon? Crab much?

>>6206512
I'm imagine it's a glass lens with a diaphragm and draw accordingly. Usually it's enough to shift pupil, shade the top of the eye and add reflection to make it looks cool.

I don't think I have what it takes to be good at drawing. Each time I try I just don't enjoy the process of it. The drawing looks strange and unattractive. People much less practice draw faster and better drawings and people I think really need to fix some of their stuff have "that". They can really illustrate what is going on. My image are difficult to read. And the more detail it takes the worse I get. Basically the only thing I can do is draw one character standing upright with hands still and the most simplified hair imaginable. I hate myself. I really should stop torturing myself with the impossible. I don't know what should I do to imporove. I tried copying until I burned out.

>>6206687
Sorry, after the fact I realize it was probably genuine.

>>6206751
Can you share your creative process with us in more details?
First typing it out should provide insight to yourself, and for us it'll be easier to tell what the real problem is.

My guess is that you probably have a pre-conceived idea of what making art is, as entailed by you compairing yourself to others. What you need to understand is that for each artist there is a different process. The process of making art is not a firm objective metric ー you make your own process.

>>6206768
I don't think I have process. I never truly finished piece of work. I don't know the process. I don't know how to learn it. It takes me hours and hours on something people only spend 15 minutes on. I usually give up at sketching phase after it looks somewhat bearable. I don't do lineart, i don't render. I only work in one layer. I don't understand how can people go up 60 layers for one artwork. But the point is it's not good.

>>6206800
Is that your art?

>>6206808
Yes. It was a request. It got two deliveries, this is the second one and it's just so much better than mine and probably didn't take that long. I am missing something I probably never had and never will.

>>6206800
>>6206812
Study artists you look up, figure out what you need to change in your process to tweak your art into ressembling more what you're looking up to.

Use however many layers (even if it's just 2 or 3) and however much time you need to. The whole "15min/less time" thing is weird. Have you ever visited /i/? There are good artists there and sometimes they take hours for things which aren't inherently amazing but it's just how it is. Art takes time.

To compare both the main thing is that they have light and dark defined on the figure and you don't. So get your brain to be more aware of this. If you never experienced this now you'd never get to fix it, so celebrate instead of being a doomer, especially when you're already a lot better than most of the people in this thread.

>>6206821
How do I learn other people's process and learn to follow it? I watched some streamers but I am unable to replicate what they do. And they usually spend only shortly in sketching phase and move to lineart and rendering where I don't know how they are able to create "the effect". All I usually do is trying to refine the sketch into something I can call done and go to sleep. It makes me miserable.

>>6206751
>>6206800
>The drawing looks strange and unattractive
did you ask your self why or what you dont like? or are you in that stage when you cant see the errors and the drawing just looks meh?

>But the point is it's not good.
i think the pose its pretty cool, did you use a reference? how long did it take you?
The major big problem im seeing is that the face is shit like literally really lowers the quality of the drawing, and talking about the lineart i guess in general you could get away with that but the lineart around the dick is just too thick and and too detailed

What type of brush for Clip Studio would be good for drawing these types of blurry lines to portray movement?

>>6206914
The blur tool

>>6206914
one of the standard g-pens works. its called 'maru' in the spanish version.

Asking again to see if I can learn anything new? Anyone got any good resources on learning manga/anime-style lineart? I understand the general principles of lineart for art as a whole, but when I attempt it there are still some incongruities.

Anyone willing to rip course from palmie?
its like skillshare, where you paid monthly to watch all the content(the first month is free) and all the videos come with japanese subs(you can use deepl to translate)
>picrel
https://www.palmie.jp/courses/322/lp
the same guy who whore this book
https://exhentai.org/g/1709048/620f8871e2/

>>6206208
Thanks, I needed to hear that (not that Anon)

how can i achieve from being a /beg/ to early 2000's takeuchi

>>6207859
Early takeuchi is beg as fuck lol bro. His early works had soul that he lost a long time ago.

>>6207859
simple shapes

>>6207886
What do you mean? It all looks the same to me

So I started doing the study everyone here recommends of copying images I like. I have a couple hundred pics which I'm using but some of them are different artstyle, can that potentially fuck up my learning process? Would I be better off copying from a single artist with a single artstyle? What's your guys experience with this?

>>6208017
I think it really depends on you, try it out and use what wirks best for you

>>6207859
Copy his works? duh

>>6205116
I'm confused what is left pic?

>>6208017
So I started doing the weight lifting everyone here recommends of exercising at a local gym. It has a couple hundred weight machines which I'm using but some of them are completely different, can that potentially fuck up my training process? Would I be better off doing single exercise on a single machine? What's your gals experience with this?

Honestly just draw from ref or copy as much as you can. For the beginners mileage is very important. Switch to Naoto Saki’s method once you get little confidence.

>>6207886
let me rephrase it then
how can i achieve this much SOVL?
unironically his tsukihime cgs are better than fsn for some reason

>>6208173
Soul is not something you can just draw. You have to be passionate about what you draw. Draw like your life depends on it.

>>6208133
Heh

>>6208220
>Draw like your life depends on it.
what if i still lack in skill?
i mean like even worst than early takeuchi

Hey bros, any good resources to learn how to do backgrounds?

>>6208230
What this anon is saying is that Takeuchi had passion for what he was doing. You're not going to get this by copying him. Your art will then resemble his more if you do but to begin with are you driven enough to grind their art for months on?
Technical vs. emotional.

>>6198478
somenoe got the Pharan brushes set, Tapoioca and Krupuk?
i am interested in this shading-highlight effect that his brushes give

>>6208545
Pretty much. You summarized it nicely.

>>6208133
holy mother of /beg/s that drawing...

it looks like it's almost time for me to draw

>>6208230
Most hit doujin VNs/games have mediocre to even kinda bad art. But soul carries them.

>>6208612
is almost as if the art is not the main point in a vn, you retard

>>6208612
its not soul desu those games are more story driven than art focused so having top tier art isnt as important as top tier story
unless youre doing coom where at least /int/ levels of anatomy would help you can be beg and do a good VN

>>6208624
>>6208622
Play Higurashi, you fags. It's the 20th anniversary. Same for EoSD.

>>6208792
normalfagcore. i don't touch that.

>>6208792
>EoSD
>not playing Highly Responsive to Prayers
smdh

I feel like i'll never find the way to draw eyes and face as a whole which will work for me

>>6208967
what?

>>6208806
t. filtered
>>6208837
It's EoSDay today

>>6208967
Those are granny hips

>>6209153
>EoSDay today
oh shit i should actually go play it then

did a quick study

https://youtu.be/DhCoFt5Ejo8

>upload art
>lose followers

>>6209401
It looks fantastic, sorry for the beg question but what brush are you using?
I know it's probably the dumberst question but I like that line art and for some reason I can't find the exact brush I'm looking for

>>6209479
Did you post something different? When was the last time you posted before that? Where do you post?

>>6209556
just regular stuff
do you lose followers if you take a break?

>>6209567
Depends on how long the break is

>>6208547
i got them all, do you have anything of interest to trade? i have a cgpeers account already btw

>>6209629
Seriously does it matter? Do some people go on your profile and unfollow you if you don't post in a few months?

>>6209649
Yeahh, a few think you gave up or something and unfollow you to "clean up" their followings I guess, I'm guilty of that too sometimes, but how long did you not post, a few months?

>>6209674
>"clean up" their followings
why would you do that
its not like theres a limit on how many you can follow

a few months

>>6204477
the bridgman books are the only ones you need

>>6209630
ah they're on cgpeers? then I don't need you

>>6209711
lol no they aren't
i just meant that if you offered anything from cgpeers I'd already have it

>>6209534
I posted it on the previous threads. I just use the basic Turnip pen in CSP and add pen pressure opacity and set the anti aliasing to the maximum.

Personally I think the pen pressure settings you set for CSP and your tablet is the actual bigger difference IMO, as I remember changing the tablet mode setting for my cintiq to "Mouse mode of tablet driver" in CSP. That alone made my lines feel more accurate and fluid.

>>6209840
What does mouse mode even do?

>>6209840
>Mouse mode of tablet driver
i dont notice anything when i enable this

https://youtu.be/099ImeBZlM0?t=349

Does anyone know how to set up your lasso tool to automatically fill selected arena like this? Faggot introduces the practice but doesn't instruct how to set it up

>>6210014
https://youtu.be/099ImeBZlM0?t=349
time stamp is around 5:56

>>6210014
it just the default "enclose and fill" tool
it's not in the lasso tools menu, but in the fill tools menu

>>6209697
>bridgman
specifically the clothing books or just all of them? your stuff looks great

>>6210084
holy crap i'm retarded
thanks mate

How do I incorporate different artist styles into my own?
Like, what if I like the way an artist draws noses, one draws eyes, the way one does lineart and the way another colors, but togheter I can't make it look well?

>>6210221
just copy everything from your favorite artist, your style will automatically turn into your own

does this anatomy look weird?

>>6210231
But what if I have multiple favourite artists that I equally like for different reasons. Ho do I pick just one?

>>6210317
Stop being /beg/ and copy one properly. You can worry about the rest later.

>>6210317
take what you like and mix it together

>>6209685
I know, that's just my reason for doing so, and I usually do it when I lose sight over my followings, and maybe because I'm an orderly person

>>6209685
>a few months
Ok then that's perfectly valid for some to unfollow you, I lost some too after just a few weeks of inactive on Instagram
My advuce: just keep uploading frequently and regularly

>>6210256
Yeah the head is moe anatomy

I did one without reference, still not very good at doing anime faces and hair.

>>6210531
That sounds insane to me
If I like someone's content, I wouldn't unfollow even after a decade

>>6210141
since you guys were talking about clothes i would wager just the clothing books

>>6210578
Are you sure you like Genshin face type? It isn't usual anime face. Also you can get their MMD models in official forum and watch polygon mesh. Or try to find in sketchfab, there was Keqing so maybe others too.

>>6210612
Ok then that's just me haha

>>6209840
thanks!

>>6209883
>>6209882
If you have a regular tablet then this may not make a difference.
On a screen tablet what this will do is it will change the processing of the stroke to take directly from the tablet. I noticed that when I have the Win Tab preference enabled CSP inherently has a bit of processing to your stroke that smooths out your line, but makes the performance of the stroke slightly delayed (even with 0 stabilization), which heavily annoyed me. In Photoshop it doesn't do this. You will notice at higher resolutions when zoomed out and you draw slowly the lines will won't be as smooth but feel more accurate and fast. If you've drawn traditionally before, that feeling of the tip of the pen being exactly where your cursor is will be there now.

I would then go and disable "press and hold" for right clicking and almost all the Windows Ink bullshit in Windows as you can so that you don't have anything getting in the way of making smooth, responsive strokes. Ironically, specifically in your Tablet Driver setting you may have to keep the "Windows Ink" box ticked on as for some programs like Photoshop and CSP it won't detect Win Tab if that's not on.

>>6210612
Wait, even if they stopped uploading after years??
Maybe I'm just weird like that idk

>>6210612
same
i think it's just a clutter thing though. i know people who obsessively clear out their email inboxes to the point where they have almost no emails, meanwhile mine has thousands in it because i refuse to delete any. i'm guessing it's similar for following people too. generally i try to not unfollow anyone, just in case i need to remember their existence one day

>>6210616
>>6210141
All of them, bridgman's books are a mess, study all of them then come back to them after you level up your skills

>>6209685
>its not like theres a limit
actually, there's a limit
if you have few followers, your limit will be 5k iirc
that's why i unfollowed some of the onlyfan sluts on my twitter so i can follow more artists that i fancy

>>6211275
Wait, so if I have more followers, I can follow more people? Is this just Twitter we're talking about here?

>>6211461

>>6210843
So it basically is useless if you use a screenless tablet? Thanks.

>>6211496
Wow. Thanks, didn't know that.

How does one fix the 200% zoom bug on CSP

>>6211603
>200% zoom bug on CSP
screenshot?
didnt even know that exist

>>6211605
once you zoom over 200% some functions such as selecting layers get bugged out and stop working

>>6211607
try saving it then restart the software

Whats the best book that focuses on the head and face?

>>6211740
Loomis, retard.

>>6203234
thanks for uploading these

God damn why are anime girls foreheads so big, this goes against everything I've learned.

>>6211873
No it doesn't! They have baby skulls

>>6211873
Some japs women have a big forehead, you just don't see.
https://twitter.com/IchikaM20st_/status/1151492410297372672/photo/2
https://twitter.com/IchikaM20st_/status/1520019544118480896
and if you are drawing anime girls, you wanna show cuteness(picrel), so you over exaggerate the forehead.

>>6211873
Yeah, they kind of resemble toddlers, but even toddler heads look tame in comparison.
It's weird and unintuitive, which is probably why so many westerns have trouble adapting to the art style.

>>6211873
i think you have to exagerate the forehead a little bit because of the eyes, it would be weird if the eyes are big but you use a realistic forehead size

critique?
people keep saying i don't put gesture but i feel like it looks bad when i do

>>6212536
I don't know why, but the stretched out arm looks a bit off, otherwise pretty cool :)

>>6212536
stiffy as fuck

>>6212536
the posrture is weak she looks like shes trying to balance her weight by the way her left feet is in full contact with the ground and the other leg is just dangling, arms are not that bad but they could be a bit more dynamic , the head too, her torso is pretty stiff too and why is she holding that book from the bottom is harder that way

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