/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

first for which one of these looks the best
leftmost is original, it looks way better on my tablet but everyone says it's muddy so idfk what's going on

Can someone draw these pair of stylized eyes at 6 different angles for me and also tell me the method please. Not normal eyes.

>>6183478
anon, you're retarded. your eyes aren't heavily stylized nor are the ones you just posted, i'm guessing that your problem is that you copy what you see instead of imagining what the structure behind it is like. which is perfectly fine when you're doing a basic angle like this, but when you try something different you're gonna have to do what the other anon said and start drawing eyeballs and slapping eyelids onto them. once you get the basic shape right you can morph into anything you'd like, including these very almond-shaped and asian ones

>>6183471
2nd is probably the best, but I'd recommend using more saturated blues for your shadows instead of grey if your going with this style.

What's the best drawing program for someone who has less than half an hour to spend on drawing every day?

>>6183504
DALL-E

>>6183508
Fuck off idiot.

>>6183478
>Not normal eyes.
how are those not normal eyes?

>>6183504
why would the amount of time you have matter for what software you use?

>tfw too scared to draw
bros, the prospect of by drawing turning out bad is demotivating me. how do I deal with this?

>>6183515
I don't mean program as in software, anon, I mean program as in training.

>>6183516
>of by drawing
Try learning how to write, then you can commission someone to draw instead.

>>6183516
Accept that it will suck and you'll always suck. Anything good is just a pleasant surprise.

>>6183520
>heehee you made a typo xD

>>6183523
dumb wojakposter
kill yourself

>>6183517
You're not going to improve with that little amount of time.
just draw some anime girls or something until you're motivated to do more.

>>6183526
not even him. I just think you're a cum guzzling bitch for caring about something that's an extremely obvious typo.

>>6183527
>just draw some anime girls or something
But there's no way I can draw anime girls in that span of time. That's a multi-hour undertaking, I know because I've watched streams. Why do you lie?

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the literal definition of ngmi:

>>6183456
>That's the thing. Everyone on /ic/ shits on me for "just drawing" (not even true) but I met a professional painter who draws for a living and he told me to "just draw". I feel I have improved way more by listening to his advice in the past 3 days than I ever improved months doing construction and measuring. The latter is such a tedious process, and I can only get a few drawings done in a day, whereas "just drawing" allows me to produce ten times the output.

>>6183529
Draw half an anime girl or something, idk takes me like 5 minutes.

>>6183533
>idk takes me like 5 minutes
pyw

>>6183534
Doesn't need to be good. Just draw some animus

>>6183540
lmao no way I can draw even that crap in 5 mins
you severely overrestimate the skills of a permabeg

>>6183541
could just draw some heads or something. point is just to draw something to start building interest.

I got a tablet but I'm struggling to use it, it feels way harder drawing with it than it does on pencil and paper.

>>6183547
>is just to draw something
Didn't we go over this last thread? "just draw" is really bad advice for someone who is starting at 0, or possibly lower than that if they have bad habits that need to be broken.

I think it'd be kinder to tell that anon it's hopeless. Speaking of which-

>>6183504
Give up. Drawing is something you need to be able to commit multiple hours to daily if you want to learn. If you really have less than half an hour to spend on drawing, you're not going to get anywhere.

>>6183548
hand eye coordination comes with experience just keep drawing with it in a few weeks it will feel more natural

also to speed things up you can try using the tablet instead of your mouse when youre using your computer, and also play some kind of game that need coordination with the cursor like Osu! or something

also just use the stabilizer from wtv software youre using, it helps

but again, its just hand eye coordination gained by experience,

>>6183478
literally you need some construction in your life

3D form in perspective is in any anatomy/figure book just choose one the method for the head is almost the same be it loomis, hampton, Bridgman, or the jap books

>>6183562
>loomis, hampton, Bridgman, or the jap books
Titles, anon, titles!

>>6183467
Warm up before studying I guess.

some 10 minute/ea figure practice from this japanese semirealist book on muscular girls
>>6183516
just draw anything, open mspaint or a notepad and draw a huge dick, then shade it atrociously but with enthusiasm until it's basically the mona lisa of poorly drawn weiners.
Impossible to take seriously enough to hate on

>>6183571
>this japanese semirealist book on muscular girls
Name?

>>6183471
maybe they say it looks muddy because either your tablet has shitty color calibration or the people have shitty colors on their monitors,

leftmost looks like shit on my normal monitor that is just a basic office monitor, but on my huion it looks decent albeit desaturated cuz the normal monitor doesnt pick up well on the subtle hues but your tablet prob has a certain color calibration that makes you pick desaturated colors cuz they "look" saturated enough even tho they arent

do an experiment of copying somethings colors with the ref on a normal screen, then put the same ref on your tablet, if the copied piece from the normal screen has more desaturated colors, then you found the problem, which isnt necessarily your tablet being bad but you just need to get used to a screen take picks up on hues better so pick more saturated colors than you think

but if these "people" have good monitors then maybe you have shit calibration, who knows, anyways it does seem like a color calibration problem

this also explains why the other versions are just you making them brighter and even more desaturated

>>6183572
\格闘アクションポーズ作画テクニック集 (大黒屋炎雀)

it's a bit of a stretch saying "realistic" but the line work and the demonstrations are pretty broadly applicable and it focuses on things like flesh movement between different poses etc. I'm enjoying it but there's no translation afaik

>>6183572
>>6183576
its on zlib btw

>>6183541
>waaaah im so scared of drawing
>waaaaaaaah why im not improving I'll always be bad
>waaaaaaaaah why bother im so bad but I refuse to do anything to improve

Unironically and literally, kill yourself.

>>6183618
Not him, but he already said he doesn't have much time to draw. If you don't have time to improve, it doesn't mean shit if you want to.

Why everybody have problems adapting to tablet
I genuinely start thinking that reason i didn't have this problem is because i was playing fps on pc with mouse and this is t why i don't feel disconected to cursor on screen while drawing

>>6183541
just stop being a permabeg

>>6183635
How do do you do that with 10 minutes of drawing a day?

>>6183635
How do you do that with 10 minutes of drawing a day?

>>6183568
You should try overhand grip.

>>6183638
if you think you dont have the time, open a google doc or whatever and write down your schedule. You will find that you have alot more free time than you realized. youre pn 4chan right now, are you not?

What is the key to drawing straight lines consistently without rotating the page?

>>6183638
how in the world do you only have 10min a day to draw? are you some sort of modern slave who only eats, sleeps and works 24/7?

i doubt you have so little time you probably are just either bad at managing your time, or lazy, or have other hobbies you dont want to quit in favor of drawing

basically, all excuses

>>6183638
Stop lying, no one is buying that bullshit.
You've already spent more than 10 minutes wasting time on 4chan.

If you really, REALLY want to do it, you'll find the time.
Simple as.

Also, theres nothing quicker than pencil and paper.

>>6183576
>>6183594
Thanks m8, good stuff.

>>6183648
practice

>>6183643
>>6183649
>>6183652
Shitposting on 4chan intermittently isn't the same as having dedicated uninterrupted time to drawing

>>6183673
shut the fuck up already and draw

>>6183679
Tell that to my schedule

>>6183648
keep your wrist still and only move ur elbow/shoulder. after that, practice

sword

>>6183652
What would it take for you to give up on an anon and tell him that he really can't draw instead of inventing a million copes for how he could draw if only he did something differently?
Serious question.

>>6183688
Because Im not buying the 'only 10 minutes' bullshit and neither should anyone.
People who come up with that shit usually have the time management of a carrot, or spend literal hours playing videogames, or simply consuming social media.
Its nothing but an excuse to convince themselves not to draw, because lets be honest, learning how to draw requires EFFORT.
And playing vidya or mindlessly looking at social media requires zero, which makes it for a hard choice.

These people like the idea of drawing, but not the actual drawing and learning process associated. They want to be good, but without any of the required effort.

>>6183703
I don't think you understand how demanding some jobs are, but that's a different issue. Again, what would it take for you to actually give up on an anon instead of blindly believing anyone can draw? How old are you, and what are your political affiliations?

>>6183642
First time trying it and it feels awkward obviously, but most probably a matter of practice and getting used to controlling it (have to build up confidence in the new grip and look at others).
Felt faster though so that's something; was fun though.

Unrelated,
I recommend to stop failing for bad bait and using that helpful built in site function that's going into off topic now but that's just me.

some random tasteless landscape exercise (going for the concept art done in 1 hour vibe)

Todays warmup

>>6183576
based
thanks for this, I need more muscle girls in my life.

>>6183745
Cute

>>6183717
>How old are you, and what are your political affiliations?
nice bait mate

>>6183796
Try answering the questions in a post instead of calling it bait, it helps.

>>6183807
No one's gonna play your cope game retard. Either rework your schedule or give up on drawing.

>>6183807
you cant even comprehend how someone only having 10min free time is ridiculous,

and based on asking age/politics you are either just another shitposter or one of the tranny tourists who wants to hugbox anyone and argue till the end of the world

wont get anymore (you)'s from me

>only have 10 minutes of free time
>spends them shitposting on 4 channel

>>6183822
heh

>>6183813
>cope game
You're the one posting cope about how anyone can draw.
>>6183815
>you cant even comprehend how someone only having 10min free time is ridiculous,
Some people don't even have that much. I like how you're zeroing in on the political question because you're too uncomfortable with the other question.

>>6183831
are you a heroin addict? thats the only time someone has 10 mins or less of freetime. lazy fuck

>>6183834
>what would it take for you to actually give up on an anon instead of blindly believing anyone can draw?
Answer the question, anon.

>>6183863
and this anons, is a good example of a reverse crab, some say this species of crab can be even more toxic to the art community than the normal crabbitus communus retardus

pls feel free to watch it in its natural habitat, but nothing more, avoid engaging, and move on

>>6183877
Seethe harder, you're not even talking to the original anon.

Why do so many of you ngmis worship esdeath schizo?

guys I have 3 minutes and 47 seconds of free time a day
How do I become an art god in that amount of time?

Am I doing lights correctly?

>>6183890
>step 1: pick up pencil
>step 2: shove it up your eyeball, making sure it reaches your brain
>step 3: there is no step 3

>ten minutes
>hour
Niggers you can stop anyway you won't make it unles you draw 10 hours a day
All your favourite artists draw for a whole day

>>6183891
No. Either do a mockup in blender, use a rl reference, or fake it from imagination. Don't waste time with this line drawing shit.

>>6183883
Because he exemplifies the "just draw" meme.

>>6183893
Why do /ic/rabs insist you can learn to draw without spending your whole life on it?

>>6183909
You can point to people doing any program and find a few that never got gud.
At his skill level just drawing should work, if he spent enough time on it and was actively critical of himself.

>'''''ten minutes to draw''''''' fag has been shitposting for over three hours
every time.

>>6183793
Thanks

>>6183915
Can you elaborate?
>>6183918
>if I say everyone is the same person they are!
Meds.

>>6183918
too true

>>6183918
I don't really care about shitposts itself but
>anon posts work
>1 reply
>anon making low effort bait
>200 replies and the whole thread goes down to limit

>>6183934
Shitposting is an art, and the board, your canvas!

>>6183935
I only have 10 minutes a day to shitpost

In general, how do I draw something that's pointing towards me like the legs of a swivel chair or the leaves on a flower.

>>6183950
ngmi

>>6183953
I wonder how things like you function

>>6183959
Sorry

>>6183923
Please.
>if he spent enough time on it and was actively critical of himself.
What does this mean? Can someone explain?

>>6183953
Your guess is as good as mine, anon. Try asking >>6183959

>>6183961
No I'm sorry, I'd recommend before looking at pictures to draw from life and use a mirror at times.
Familiarise yourself with space in relation to yourself if you've never been aware of it before.

>>6183962
How retarded are you?
If he actually drew more than 10 minutes a day and applied critical thinking to why his drawings looks so bad he'd have gotten better by now.

Instead he just draws the same deviantart tier anime girls he always does but and never bothers actually looking at his drawings and comparing them anything good.

and by he I mean you.

Can a beg rate this from 1-10? I want to see the difference in expectation.
My mother said it was pro level. So from an amateur eye it's really good apparently.

>>6183974
I'm not gonna rate it but i can tell you that it's not 'pro' level.

>>6183974
2

>>6183976
Can you give me a rating? It looks decent to me too, but ints say it's bad. I want to see a beg's opinion. We clearly have different sets of eyes.

>>6183974
4

>>6183977
Pyw? Preferably portrait.

>>6183979
4 huh. I guess it could improve. What about top pic here?

>>6183980
That would require me to waste my time on portraits.

>>6183984
Rate this from 1-10.

>>6183986
5

>>6183986
7

>>6183988
Okay then 4 isn't so bad.

>>6183982
This has to be troll i can't nigga

>>6183992
you're a 2 not a 4.
and you're barely above a 1 at that.

>>6183994
Well, even a 2 is a 2 out of 5. Since >>6183986
is perfect. Add some color and it's a 3. I'm not far off.

>>6183997
Not even close.
You should honestly be perma banned. Someone with your mental disabilities shouldn't be allowed to be on this website.

>>6183999
It's good but not even close to perfect what the fuck dude

>>6183974
Now try without reference, lets see your actual skills

>>6184002
These two are without reference.
First one.

>>6184001
Meant for
>>6183997

>>6184002
Two.

>talking to schizo
Ignore him i beg you

>>6183638
Just quit drawing. I work from 8 to 5 and I still find time to draw for 3 hours.

>>6184001
Oh for me that's perfect enough. Better than even sakimichan. Give me what you think is a 10.
This is my best constructed/measured portrait btw. It took me 2 months to reach this level.

>>6184010
Just go an google ruan jia
I'm pretty sure he's gonna take your heart since generic shit like this is perfect for you

>>6183982
>he's fucking framing them
Holy shit

>>6184012
Yeah, that's good but more like a 10/5 not a 10/10.
Doesn't change that >>6183986 is peak, at least for now. I'd be able to make a living at that level already.

Well. I think the /beg/ thread is no longer for me.
Good luck dudes. But I don't want to deal with this stuff.

>>6184014
Fucking this
I'm really curious if he genuinely don't see how bad they are
I understand that making shit drawings is part of the process but mf FRAMING them jesus

>>6184025
To be fair my mom has a giant self portrait of me that I drew in charcoal for class hanging up in her spare bedroom.

Idk how I feel about it. I showed it to her because I just wanted someone to say something nice to me. But at the time she ignored it and threw it in the garage only to hang it up months later and now I hate it. I dont know if it's abuse.

>>6184025
Post your work and I will rate.

>>6184035
It's in the op of asg anon

What a coincidence esdeath fag is back but the other schizo has been gone since

>>6184036
Meh, 10/10 coloring but otherwise it's anime. I've reached that level with my left hand before.

>>6184041

Ok now i see he is just trolling

>>6184044
My point is drawing anime faces is piss easy.

>thread was made 6 hours ago
>we're already halfway through it
Bro, please, just stop. Post new work you've made we don't need to see the old ones.

>Pixiv keeps thinking everything I draw is porn or gacha stuff

One day I'll get good enough to have it guess what those shitty drawings actually are

>>6184042
>>6184041
>>6183982
How much would you charge to commission a pair of tits from esdeath, I have a soft heart for beg lewd material. It doesn't even have to be her entire figure, a bust shot is fine.

>>6184054
Oh I'll do it for free just give me a ref. Preferably a curvy one, I won't do it if it's a fridge.

>>6184058
I'll give you this one since it's already stylized or were you looking for a 3dpig?

>>6184066
Oh yeah I like that, you want anime face or 3dpg?

Honestly make a new thread at this point

>>6183745
Love the maid. Great lines in general

what do u think

>>6184045
and yet you can't do it.

Gnome Assassin (jungle camo edition!)

Am I doing the Krenz accuracy meme right bros?

>>6184068
Anime, you know like Esdeath.

>>6184066
>>6184068
Gonna guess you want anime face, will get around to it later today. I need to wake up first.

>>6184075
Anon, drawing anime faces isn't hard at all. If you convince yourself that you peaked just because you can draw perfect anime faces then you fell for a begtrap. I drew >>6184041 with my left hand from imagination, imagine what I can do with my right hand.
Pic related is something I drew 2 years ago before I discovered /ic/ or practiced anything. Anime faces were never hard, never will be. That's why I try to mix it with realistic faces so I can actually improve.
>>6180619 is great, I liked it before anon told me it was him. The coloring is great and he's got good loli bodies. The faces are flawless, but in the end it's just anime. Nothing to brag about. I wanted to see his realistic portraits.

>>6184085
>Its not hard
>posts complete garbage

>>6184081
>green line for the leg is completely horizontally flat
>draw it slanted upwards by several degrees, completely ignoring the green line
Anon, are you mentally challenged?

>>6184085
Pfffft

>>6184088
I'll stop being retarded on the next one. Am I at least dividing the reference up correctly?

>>6183467
first post on /ic/ havent touched the sticky resources. this is me referencing. where should i start in the resources in order to up my game/ what should i study to go further. i've honestly just been referencing artist's tutorials and artworks to help me get better

>>6184081
Do bargue plates instead

>>6184095
you're doing pretty well, keep at this as well and work on the visual comparison it still needs a bit of work in the measurements.

but in general i'd say you're good enough to start the loomis and vilpu routine.

>>6184095
also. i know my ink game is shit. i dont use normal art supplies im usually just using ballpoint pen. heres another piece in case you dont wanna look at furshit. all referenced. i wanna go from where im at right now to producing original stuff. i also feel stuck in the sketchbook. everytime i try to do anything on the pad in SAI i just cant do anything that i like. its a serious disconnect. any tips for making the transition from normal media to digital media?

>>6184106
artists i've mainly referenced, Doxyonta, and InCase. i've referenced other images here and there but if theres two artists i've looked at the most its those two. doxy for the bodies and incase for the faces.

>>6184106
it just takes a lot of work to get used to tablets. you'll always feel the disconnect, but it lessens with practice and the convenience can't be beat.

>>6184058
You will never make it.

I made this thread earlier today and its already half way to the bump limit. What the fuck gives?

>>6184112
t. fridge

>>6184114
Its just "10 minutes to draw" schizo and esdeath scbizo waken up at the same time

>>6184114
crypto crashed and /biz/ made a thread about making it in art. this explains the /beg/ tourist influx

>>6183972
>If he actually drew more than 10 minutes a day and applied critical thinking to why his drawings looks so bad he'd have gotten better by now.
Why? How is he supposed to magically know what to improve on without drawing?

>>6184126
Because you should be able to tell what looks bad with your own art.
I doubt you look at your art and think its professional level, so look at it and figure out why its bad without going
>well its okay that I suck at anatomy i'm studying
>and perspective doesn't have to be perfect...
>and i just got lazy with the hands so of course its bad...
actually fix that shit.

plus sure for some things its harder to tell, like why your gestures suck compared to better artists, but you should be able to break down why.
even if you can't fix it, you should be able to identify your weak points to focus on them.

>>6184128
>Because you should be able to tell what looks bad with your own art.
What makes you so certain of that? Were you able to do the same?

>>6184101
>Do bargue plates instead.
These look way better than the 30 cartoon references that I was about to copy. Thanks anon

>>6184123
You might be spot on. There's a new marketplace for gamestop and people are trying to grift on the fear of missing out.

>>6184129
for the most part, yeah. its not perfect but i can usually look at my drawings and see what parts need work or what i should look at in the future.
though admittedly i am lazy with anatomy and i know it.

at certain points its harder, but at that point i just compare to a better artist and try to draw their drawings (as a general reference and not a direct copy) and figure out why I'm still lacking in comparison and that usually leads me in the general direction.

>>6184101
>bargue plates
Where?
and krenz is basically anime barque plates

Can someone explain to me what the point is of learning how to rotate a cube on it's corner point at any angle?

>>6184134
Check out the academic general /ag/ for them. I think they are perfect for training accuracy and eyesight like what krenz tries to teach you.

>>6184136
cubes are a metaphor for life and being able to see it from many points of view. by rotating a cube you're learning how to be more diverse and open minded toward people of different colors and walks of life.

>>6184139
I didn't simply say rotating the cube.
I'm wondering why exercises exist for rotating a cube with the pivot point in the corner.

Rotating a cube between 1 & 2 point perspective is easy enough. What's the point of learning how to rotate it based on a corner point?

>>6184134
>>6184138
>>6184130
https://barguedrawing.wordpress.com/300-dpi/
here they are

>>6184142
different angles makes it more complicated than simple flat faces.

>>6184139
That sounds terrible.
>>6184145
>This page is dedicated to the memory of Elijah McClain.
For fuck's sake...

can someone give me a good pen for drawing that I can buy on amazon?

>>6184202
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-Round-Ballpoint-Medium-144-Count/dp/B06WGMTMVM/

>>6184205
I mean more of like an inking pen
also ive heard ballpoint is bad for drawing?

>>6183467
i dunno which thread we're using, so imma post here too oops lol

>>6184207
dont sleep on the ballpoint pen for good stuff

also honestly i wouldn't really fuck around with inking until you have a very good grasp of pencilwork. thats my opinion tho

>>6184231
alright fren. I already have some ballpoints so I'll go with those for now

laziest study I've done so far.

>>6184338
Draw hands when

>>6184262
No sense of proportion.

>>6184352
pyw

>>6184352
Maybe you're right. I'll look into that.

I think I'm dropping this.

>>6184338
Finish it jackass

>>6184394
Tits are too pointed. Go for sketch referencing, skip painting since you can get through much more sketches before youre done painting

>>6184357

>>6184407
thanks for the advice. i wasn't super happy with the tits cuz they're just too big and i didn't feel like redoing them.

>>6184430
>t-the way i subjectively draw it is better!

>>6184394
This is some peak SOVL
Add some ryona and you'd be king

how do I make my art not legitimately vomit-inducing?

>>6184443
Look at objective correct skulls then, dumb nigger.

How do you rotate a cylinder?

>>6184466
Try drawing your hands correctly.

>>6184469
no, its too hard.

>>6184469
I need to do more than just that. every single part of >>6184450 feels revolting

>>6184477
Well channel those feelings into drawing her getting raped by giant tentacles covered in slime and smegma while she suffers in humiliation.
I have a fetish for badly drawn porn.

from imagination

god damn I haven't posted in one of these threads in a year. was anybody else here lurking in the beg threads last july-ish? left picture in picrel is my first post here, right is a wip from today

>>6184486
Dunno about the boots. Stronger highlights, maybe. The way both legs are extended looks rather stiff.

Kinda phoned in but currently playing bdsp and liked Sunyshore

>>6184501
yea i agree totally, it was only an hour 1/2 painting and like a dummy i didnt set up any perspective grids or else i would have made the pose more dynamic. fair crit, thanks.

>>6184486
Good job Anon, especially from imagination but a lot to critique regardless. Left arm (on the man, not in the image as directly seen) completely lacks an upper arm and the arm bend/hand is misplaced. The crotch is not shaped like that but would point towards the bottom of the belt buckle. You just completely stopped using highlights past the shoes it seems, it could use way more of that. You got lazy on the bottom portion of the stick and it really shows. The bottom portion of the coat that’s near the stick is not shown to continue to the other side of his body either (it should be way bigger)

>>6184514
I’m wrong about the stick actually, I see now it’s because the coat casts over the bottom of it

Hopefully this isn't too autistic of a question. But how do I stop two overlapping lines make the part they meet darker? I'm on csp

Should I bother finishing this?

>>6184530
Opacity 100 and pic the color you want to line with I guess

>>6184530
change the opacity of the brush to 100% that should be a quick fix but anyone more experienced welcome to share more knowledge

>>6184530
Use a different pen.
Of you're using an less opaque pen you're out of luck though because that's just what happens when 2 slightly transparent lines overlap. Use an opaque brush and just use a lighter color if you want this and lower transparency in the layer setting.

>>6184539
Or lower the layer opacity*

>>6184083
>>6184068
>>6184066
>>6184054
Here you go. Not my best but yeah. I will try to draw more booba in the future.

>>6184542
Are you Chrischan?

>>6184442
heres my favorite boob tutorial. lots of good stuff to look at here. godspeed you

>>6184532
when learning. it is super important that you do many drawings as opposed to practicing finished stuff. move on and draw more. then try something thats a finished product.

>>6184563
You also gotta do finished stuff too. It's one of those things where you'll know if you're slacking in doing too many fast/too many finished.

Too many people get stuck in hell because they grind out asaro heads instead of just eating the bullet and taking something to a finish. It'll probably suck compared to sketches but it's a necessary process.

It's basically low /int/ hell.

>>6184551
It's okay to assume you're seething that I'm actually improving right?

Is esdeath schizo the cris of /ic/?

>>6184569
yeah of course but its a once in a while thing. i think the focus should be on anatomy and getting proportions right. once you have that capability in a sketch setting, then practice inking and coloring.

and i think sketching should encombas the entire figure. not just a bunch of disconnected heads

this is the kind of sketch that i go for. no ink, full figure

>>6184574
Point out one thing wrong with >>6184571

>>6184574
Dunno I think he’s pretty harmless and at least he actually likes to draw.
The AI schizo and tumblrwoke roastie spammer are way more annoying.

>>6184579
pic related

>>6184582
agreed

some schizos arent a problem and dont disrupt shit, sometimes even are fun to interact with

but the ai the woke stuff going on lately is stupid af

>>6184514
I agree with all of it thanks for the crit

>>6184074
Nice.

>>6183576
Really good. I need to get better at anatomy and muscle girls work great since you actually can see their muscles.
I will be grateful if someone uploads it to a mega though.

>>6184074
I really, really despise your faces.

just did this and even if the perspective is wrong it was fun giving a sense of 3d space, it was that fun that made me want to learn perspective appropriately, any books recomendations? heard good things about "how to draw" by scott but also heard that is complicated

>>6184074
>>6184652
what the fuck are you on
those faces look cute

SOCIAL MEDIA DIFFICULTY LIST
>easy
Twitter/Tumblr/IG
>medium
Reddit/ /ic/ deviantart because it's dead
>hard
Artstation/Pixiv
>very hard
Behance
>insane
LinkedIn
>elder god
Posting in the comment section of Michael's website

Behold, the /3/ + /agdg/ equivalent of Esdeath schizo:

>>>/3/904379
https://archived.moe/3/thread/901050/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/910160/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/907357/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/902507/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/899726/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/904408/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/901641/
https://archived.moe/3/thread/899200/

8+ years of grinding and no progress.

>>6184673
Even Esdeath schizo himself attempted the /3/ challenge once:

https://archived.moe/3/thread/896586/

>>6184675
Jesus

>>6184673
but I love esdeath schizo

>how to transfer drawing skills to sculpting skills
>when he has no drawing skills

Why are there two beg threads

>>6184711
Because some idiot is intent on shitposting/threadwarring and the mods are too lazy to delete it.

He's probably asshurt because he baked one of the previous threads, got called out for screwing it up, not cross-linking and got correctly labeled a retard

>>6184670
> /ic/
>Medium
No matter how well your drawing looks you'll most likely get shit on here just becouse
I'd rate it Very Hard in terms of mental stability that the artist needs to have to stay in this place

Any critiques or problems you see with my art?

on the cover for watamote volume 20, think the artist is losing interest in it

help

>>6184443
>"pyw"
>actually posts work
>"art is s-subjective!"

>>6184731
Lmao those proportions

>>6184744
I mean I stopped reading but the plot was just regular school drama shit for what? 100 chapters now?

>>6184731
a lot, you're more focused on copying style and not breaking it down

>>6184754
>help me with this brown blob
How about you work on it some more

>>6184503
too based for this board

>>6184396
that's a very sultry pose for a warrior.

>>6184777
yea I've also stopped reading, it's a yuri harem now

>>6184825
I think he might be gay.

>>6184860
Ain't his legs too short

>>6184661
framed perspective

>>6184819
I love Assad, hell yeah brother

Is there any way to hide a specific anon posts?

>>6184862
Probably, I should have dropped this a while ago and done it over.

>>6185038
Easy fix in digital. Even in oils.

>>6185062
Yeah, I'm just not feeling it.

>>6183467

>drawing looks good on paper
>take picture
>looks like shit
>alternatively:
>take picture
>looks good
>flip picture
>looks like shit

I think I am just gaslighting myself.

>>6183467

>>6185132
So it goes

Am I feeling the forms yet?

>>6185213
how do i do this

>>6185216
measure things with your eyes

>>6185216
>watch some basic perspective guide
>watch some basic forms + breaking things down guide
>try for yourself ad nauseam
I’m at the last step and I’m not sure when to move to more advanced perspective ( meaning most likely just putting bunch of shit on a table from imagination or breaking down simple photos nad rotating them ). NMA beginner course has this shit in the first few videos

>>6185224
I'd say move on man that looks good.

Im a stupid fuck ass /beg/ who needs way too much guidance to make any kind of progress.
I keep jumping between concepts (anatomy, perspective, construction) without making any kind of progress in anything.

Is there any course/book with PLENTY of exercises? Most I've seen barely give you a couple exercises for every concept and simply add "practice yourself".
No, nigger, I need you to tell me "now instead of drawing a bell pepper, do the same with a tomato, a garlic, an onion, a watermelon and a shoe, two times each.

I need to be given SPECIFIC exercises and instructions, not to be told to 'just practice'.

Does something like this exist or am I doomed?

How long did it take you to get decent at making circles/eclipses?

Filling an old sheet.

>>6185269
Learn Micheal hamptons method and draw figures everyday for at least an hour. A new figure every 5 minutes. You’ll improve significantly

>>6184875
Tits should be separate entities from the torso. Youre building the torso around the titties instead of drawing a torso then attaching tits. She should look natural without the tits

>>6185329
Ignore the schizo and his drawings.

>>6185295
Too beg to get straight into figure drawing.

>>6185363
He gives you the tools for it. It’s designed for people with no experience in figure drawing

>>6185071
pretty good. you’re on track, just keep on the practice

>>6185270
I'm grinding drawabox stuff right now and good gravy ellipses are annoying

>>6185380
I think he means he has no drawing experience at all, not just lacking figure drawing experience. Nothing wrong with reading Hampton thigh, you just have to go through it multiple times as you gain experience

alright what do you think

>>6185483
NOT BEG

>>6185295
Why Hampton over Vilppu and Huston?

>>6185485
sorry, i couldnt find the prebeg thread

>>6185483
eyes aren't really balanced, her right eye seems substantially bigger than her left despite perspective nad whatnot.
hand is kinda funky too.

work on your lines too, they're relatively clumsy especially on the hair.
also for some reason her stomach is sticking out and her tits are far too large, that's not normal humanoid anatomy.

>>6185483
Sex

>>6185488
nta but, theres not one over the other they teach the same shit but different methods so you might understand things better form one resource than the other

but hampton has an edge when it comes to pure anatomy study, his book goes way more indepth into anatomy and construction of all these forms in 3D space

while resource slike Vilppu and Houston dont go that much indepth into anatomy and stay more inside the area of gesture and figure drawing methods

in the end the "best" is to have a method for gesture and figure drawing and a good resource for pure anatomy, Hampton can be both, but something like Vilppu or Houston methods + Hampton would be best to cover all your bases in learning

honorable mention to Bridgman, but he is a bit weird i the sense you already need some idea of figure ad anatomy to understand wtf he does

And finally, never listen to dogmatic opinion that go to extremes of "x is better than the rest", because almost always the answer of "the best" is a mix of many resources instead of dogmatically following only 1

>>6185518
who do you recommend studying perspective from? thinking about doing krenz's course + hampton for my studying stack

kangaroo

>>6185483
I think for an outfit that elaborate a fancy cocktail would've been a better choice, but that's my preference. Technically this is not terrible, but I think you could liven up your poses by pushing your gesture a bit more.

>>6184095
You need to feel the form

>>6185483
Those eyes are very similar to a guy sho usually posts on these threads, lineart is similar in quality, but gesture sucks ass compared to his usual stuff


Sketches

>>6185536
what does this mean "feel the form"

>>6185539
Stop using your eyes and use your touch to understand the forms.

>>6185539
You need to watch karl gnass spirit of the pose, steve houston is also great

>>6185539
You only get it when you get it.

>>6185521
krenz already teaches basic perspective especially when it comes to drawing characters in it

id recommend supplementing it with framed perspective 1 and 2 for pure perspective resources

they are both on zlib can go there to download them

>>6185396
I feel you
I keep making eggs

Am I doing cast shadows right?

>>6183478
>/ic/els want to be hand-held all the way to ngmi land.

How can I learn to draw like this? Im not a very good artist, but drawings like this can look pretty cool and creative despite being difficult technically. Another example is the mangaka tsukumizu.

Do i need to learn to draw realistically first, or is it possible to just do nice drawings like this?

>>6185598
Shit forgot pic

>>6185600
And here is my quick little attempt at a similar style

>>6185555
checked and thanks anon

kangaroo

>>6185601
Still need clean lines. Also make sure edges are rounded out toward the end instead of being as square as yours.

>>6185598
>>6185600
The drawing has realistic elements in it. All anime, even if very stylized, is based on how humans and the world looks in reality. Learning how to draw atleast somewhat realistically will help alot, but technically you don't have to.

>>6185518
Is the 2013 edition a significant upgrade over the original? Do you know what the main differences are?

>>6183467
This was a lot of fun, 30min study of the bread in OP

>>6185679
how do i do this

>>6185683
Here is the process if you’re curious anon

>>6185687
Its like you're baking bread.
I wish you'd bake some bread in me if you catch my drift.

>>6185660
Didnt know there were multiple versions. Last time I went through his book it was on a pdf document. I’m not at home so i can’t offer you it. Just Google a bit for a pdf online and try to compare. Anons have been generous and pirated for sharing purposes

new

>>6185768
>>6185768
>>6185768

Lads I do abstract paintings but all my shit seems really basic and simple. Does anyone have advice for making more complex abstract art or should i keep making simple shit?