/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

loli feet!!

Brushes that some artists use for lineart.
>G-pen Default
MM/mikomune,Kichirock/キチロク, Kei Mochizuki/望月, Takeda Hiromitsu/武田弘光, Nanahara, Fuyuki/七原冬雪, Kyockcho/きょくちょ, Saemon/サエモン and Exabyte.

>ペン入れ 1mm 13HD(I think the brush come with the Cintiq13HD, dunno)
Meganei/メガねぃ

>The brush also lazy to do a single thickness paint even watercolor main line (主線も水彩も厚塗りも一本でやる怠けものブラシ)
Yamanokami/やまのかみ
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1708873

>Oil paint flat brush(Thick paint / India ink)
Hayabusa/Vert_320
>Mapping Pen
Jagayamatarawo/じゃが山たらヲ, 郁(IKU) , Tem10, Arimura Daikon/有村大根, Blue_GK, Kurosu Gatari/黒巣ガタリ
>Real G-pen
Satou Kuuki/左藤空気
>Rough(Thick paint / India ink)
Shouji Nigou 庄司二号
>Darker Pencil
Haimura Kiyotaka/はいむら
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

>Pen-General Brush (ペン入れ汎用ブラシ)
Eno/Enokiya
Hiroya/広弥
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1774432

>Line Drawing Pen (線画用ペン)
Herio/ヘリを
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1687935

>Person supervisor version of real wind pencil in-house animator only (アニメーター専用リアル風鉛筆 社内の人監修版)
Obmas/おぶます
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1728670

>G-Las Pen(G-Las Pen)
Eightman/えいとまん
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1888632

>Custom G-pen (カスタムGペン)
Ame Arare/雨あられ
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1364761

>Pencil-like brush for line drawings (線画用鉛筆風ブラシ) (deleted from csp assets)
Toosaka Asagi/遠坂あさぎ
https://litter.catbox.moe/lg1s4v.rar

>吉村拓也の透明感ペン/Takuya Yoshimura's transparent pen
Minamoto/みな本
https://booth.pm/ja/items/3185299

>Perfect Pencil (with tilt support)
Tanuma/たぬま
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1712564

the site crapped itself for hours
cant even access the board

>>6180715
for me it's Darker pencil

/asg
Posts /lsg
Wow you really ngmi pals

>>6180715
thank you anon for the good list and all the links.

Do you guys have the exercise files for the krenz stuff as well?

I wanna kms, armpits are too hard

quick morning studies. probably going to spend most of today’s practice just mapping out proportions better

Is it safe to post my beginner drawings here?

>>6181444
No, im gonna steal them.

>>6181444
i’ve been /beg/ for only a week and posted the pic above you. it’s fine, anon

>>6181444
About 90% of the people that post here are beg my dude

>>6181471
>>6181465
>>6181449
I'm worse than them

>>6181490
study, or imagination? anyway, unironically read loomis

>>6181519
>loomis
dont
read hampton, only the head section(30 pages in total)

>Korean Artist mogs all of art twitter daily for over 3 months

I'm so curious about this guy. Any Korean speakers who were there for the streams, did he share any remarks about his overall experience with this challenge? He did it for 100 days straight, is it possible he could have kept going? Was there a significant health toll? How much was sacrificed to sustain this daily output of art?

He's setting a bold standard for others, and I think I've seen some people chastise him for doing so. Should we all be aiming to output finished work daily like this?

I can see some commissioners getting antsy about artists taking their sweet time on commissions, after seeing things like this on their timeline day after day.

>>6181704
>Mogging others so hard they get angsty
Absolute Chad

>>6181704
And it's not the first time he does this challenge. The absolute chad.

>>6181704
What's the challenge exactly?

>>6181762
One picture of that quality every single day without skip.

>>6181704
There are like 3 artists who were/are concurrently doing that challenge and I keep mixing them up. Anyone successfully done this challenge? Are sketches ok or color part of it?

>>6181798
>Are sketches ok or color part of it?
No and no. That's missing the point. If you don't want to put effort try /dad/

>>6181823
lol

>>6181823
shut up fag. I'm legit curious about the rules bc I've never seen them.

>>6181847
The only rule is finishing a picture to the best of your ability, every day for 100 days straight.

>30 posts
>3 drawing
>which got 0 replies
Anyway is there any FKEYs process videos?

>>6181704
>Once again IM@S artists shine
When are you going to study some IM@S art?

>>6181704
Makes you question the validity of such artists. Even professionals like takeda hiromitsu has a background assistant.

>>6181490
Fill in background, add some details and you will get something.

>>6181926
Most professionals couldn't hope to ever reach modare's level. The guy is on another league.

>>6181935
That's generic anon...

>>6181935

>>6181947
It's not generic when he's the OG that has thousand of copycats. And even if it were, it still blows your favorite artist out of the water.

>>6181948
モ誰 retard

Does it look right to you.? I mean is my pose working?

>>6181951
whats a mo dare?

>>6181951
nta but are you talking about mossi?

>>6181954
I don't know where mossi came from but it's the same guy. He calls himself modare.

>>6181704
There were streams? Anyone have timelapses or screenshots?

>>6182042
mogoon14 on twitch

Unfortunately looks like none of his vods saved, unless they've been archived by someone and reuploaded it's gone.

He did stream every single drawing for the challenge though, probably to prove he wasn't bullshitting the work. Pretty damn impressive.

>>6182056
gdi, very sad I missed this

>>6182070
>>6182042
https://www.twitch.tv/mogoon14/clips?filter=clips&range=all

This artist attacked me on a personal level. If only I could, at least, reach his level of drawing soft anime girls. I'd like to be able to draw more than that, but it'd be a start.

https://twitter.com/sakkamaaa

Do any of you know how to draw actually? If so what is the PROPER construction of anime girl head. It might be half circle trapezoid triangle. But I don't think so but maybe one of you people know???

>>6182250
Construction is just a technique. There's no "proper" way.

>>6182250
retard

>>6182238
I think watching Vilppu's figure drawing videos is probably the way to go if you're aiming to draw plumpy girls.

>>6182250
There is no proper method. Your logic/mentality is flawed and this is what you need to work on here.

>>6181952
Well

>>6182303
Do you refine your original sketch lines or do you layer up and draw over them with a different brush?

>>6182259
Do I really need to watch his video? Or his book is enough? Or I need to use both?

>>6182250
Construction is a meme when it comes to anime heads, you just memorize a few basic lines and you're ready to go

>>6182372
I do everything with the same round brush
Basically the order is sketch->new layer under it in which i throw skintone and basic colors -> merge down -> paint stuff on new layer on top -> merge -> repeat two last steps until i satisfied or tired

>>6182303
she got that kiojin body type

>>6182373
>>6181630
https://gofile.io/d/ftdoLk
https://youtu.be/8_Zm_dyVqkM
this is all you need

>>6182398
KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>6182402
I wouldnt talk shit, that person will end up being better than you, probably already are desu

>>6182373
What I wanted to convey is that feeling such round forms need a certain mindset you don't necessarily have when beg, and Vilppu does ingrain that kind of mindset, but it's not like you have to watch Vilppu per se so long as you understand how to convey big soft forms.

>>6182404
I hope anon, I hope...

>>6182406
not him but Vilppu definitely ingrains a good sense of drawing soft and thick bodies. i'm going to do krenz's main courses after i finish vilppu's gesture drawing course

>>6182381
Yeah got it, it's kind of how I approach digital as well since I'm not a fan of refining my lines over and over. I don't get how artists can do this 3 to sometimes 4 times.

Btw to piggyback on what anon said, I do think your girl could have wider hips a bit, with a wider gap around the crotch (unless it was specifically what you were going for that is). Her legs feel too much like scissors right now.

>>6181704
Destroying people through sheer superior work ethic is a special kind of unblockable sabotage.

>>6182423
Wtf I only want to draw girls as skinny as walking sticks. Is vilpuu going to warp my senses? I'm already following his course for a week, can the damage be undone?

so this is the power of krenz
i kneel

>>6182675
>tfw i can't tell if this is ironic or not
>maybe im too beg to tell or not

https://streamable.com/j54uxv

>>6182701
What's the best way to break down anatomy into 5-side or 6-side shapes the way Krenz does? Simplifying Hampton charts?

>>6182238
Any other artists like this that make fun of prebegs with stick figures?

>>6182675
Which course has you followed?

i just spent 3hours trying to comprehend this

>>6182868
it looks good

>>6182734
dunno, i just feel the shape

>>6182868
talented asians could do it in a few minutes

>>6182885
what if you need to draw actual muscles?

>>6182868
Now you have some knowledge on how they do it. With more practice, you can draw it faster.

>>6182373
I'm read Robertson (I wanted to draw robots, also I like industrial design and illustration), then "The Manual" (without videos) and "wow I can feel organic forms just like a cubes before". But I'm still not a fan of his gestures. So read The Manual first, maybe it will enough for you.

I tried copying some anime.
It turned out okay, but my shading is total shit and inconsistent at best. Back to fundamentals for the next couple of days before drawing something cute again.

>>6182903
that's pretty cool good for them!

>>6183022
eyes look slightly too big to me, but the shading on the face shows me you knew what you were doing in terms of bone structure, so hmm…

adorable idiot studying

>>6183022
Not too bad for a copy. Her ear is too high up though.

>>6183069
SOUL

>>6182073
That's not really anything, anon

no one asked but krenz has a discord for those intersted. Everything is in Chinese tho. https:// discord.com/invite/bVHgBwx4yG

Tried study of coom

>>6183058
Yeah I think I leaned to much into big eyes, I had them too big during blocking and shrunk them down but I think by then they were already skewed too bit.
But yeah, y'know. Copying, so I don't necessarily know anything.
>>6183070
I think the problem was I shrunk down the eyes like I said from the top down, and I didn't adjust the ear placement when doing that so now they're too high. I agree though.

I also just noticed I need to add a collar bone line.

retard idea: log in to genshin impact and take screenshots to reference what anime characters look like at different angles

Plateauing is a real issue.
https://www.pixiv.net/users/10/
https://www.pixiv.net/users/2353
These artists haven't been able to improve and they've been on pixiv a hell of a lot longer than you, what makes you think you'll get any better?

>>6183586
replace GI with any anime style 3D game and you have my idea

>>6183588
i draw more than once per year

>>6183588
I'm already better than they are. Also what >>6183605 said.

>>6183605
>>6183612
Here comes the cope.

>>6183161
>tho
He's a chink, why wouldn't it be?

>>6183613
Coping about what? Maybe you're the one with issues

>>6183622
All I'm saying is that artists will plateau. Many (in)famous drawfags from /a/, /v/, and even /ic/ have had this happen. Why are you so angry?

>>6183627
pyw

>>6182906
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw?t=5301

>>6183586
https://youtu.be/V0d95Naqc4k

/beg/ here, left was this morning on my new tablet and right was about a month and a half ago on paper
Of course there's many benefits to digital art I didn't have before that are gonna lend to much cleaner art, but even with that in mind i'd say this is a significant improvement in a rather short time
Feels good

>>6180619
I'm tired of begs polluting Thai thread with their shit tier art.

Please stop, I goose skill each time I see your grotesque vomit on paper. Limit yourselves to /beg/

>>6183839
based draph enjoyer, gmi

>>6183839
Everything looks structurally sound except for the left image's nose being too close. I'd recommend "hide channel" and study the 1/3 division for faces. Continue drawing cute draphs.

>>6183839
left looks worse tho

>>6183586
Faces and figures isn't very good or cute. Japanese games is better. Also there is some good Koikatsu models if you want to spend a time googling and installing them.

>>6183588
>>6183613
>>6183627
Not everyone has for goal to get sucked over twitter. You have no idea why these people are drawing what they're drawing, or the amount of time they even dedicate to it.
How about you pyw/blogs so get to continuously judge how you're doing too?
>what makes you think you'll get any better?

>>6183900
It clearly doesn't. Face just needs some touch-up.

>>6184017
>has for goal to get sucked over twitter
Uh, come again?

>>6184132
pretty sure he means not everyone's goal is to get viral on twitter or something to that effect

>>6184137
Oh, that makes sense.
Well, it doesn't really change what I said.

>>6181704
Speaking korean artists, does yd ever share any of his resources?

>>6184226
I thought he was chinese?

>>6182734
lots of practice and figure drawing
hampton + bridgman help as does looking at artists w. good shape language
birds + plants make good practice for first learning form and then increasingly abstracting it

>>6183310
cute niwatorichan

I feel myself improving technically but am losing ideas on what to draw, how do I get out of this?

>>6184241
solid advice, thanks anon.

>>6184238
His pixiv is set to korea

>>6182056
imagine not saving lol

>>6184404
pls share

>>6184404
that place has everything!

>>6184404
pls share anon

>>6184573
>>6184556
pay

>>6184583
sure, how much and how can I pay you?

>>6184583
you seriously asking people to pay you for vods?

>>6184588
>>6184587
>>6184573
found it
>https://www.bilibili.com/video/
>BV1K54y1Z7np?share_source=copy_web

>>6184593
yeah, I download from there :^)
now i cant make some money from normies :(

>>6184597
>trying to scam starving artists
anon...

>>6184599
only a limited time to scam them if they're starving.

>>6184603
shut the fuck up already and jump on a rake

>>6184599
I was planning to ask for some art books for the community...
>trying to scam starving artists
you mean normies with money who think that having vods will help them improve...
otherwise how the fuck would pay for a fucking vod?
I am the Robin Hood here and not a scammer

>>6184607
>ask for some art books
>implying you can't find them on your own
>implying normies would even have said art books

>>6184607
I kneel

>>6184607
>I was planning to ask for some art books for the community...
no you werent

Please post more artists with similar artstyle

Pic related


I remember seeing another illustration with similar but more detailed artstyle, it was in some sort of cave and there was a sun beam entering and illuminanting the particles in the air and water below, definitely top 10 art pieces I have seen in my life but I have not been able to find it again

I don't understand what this is trying to teach me,

>>6184626
fuck off

>>6184636


>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc

Read the post you illiterate aphantastic crab

>>6184593
>bilibili
Of course it’s a fucking chink that thinks of recording in the first place. They really are the most competitive and eager to learn

>>6184634
Then try to. You can’t draw shit if you’re unable to draw a cube/box man,

>>6184634
If you’re totally new to perspective, better learn it from another book or course first

How do I get hired to draw YGO/Shadowverse/any weeb TCG and/or a Gatchashit? Do I just git good, post my stuff in artstation and hope for the best?

>>6184634
Sam lectures?
Stop
Do the krenz perspective course then the Sam lectures.

>>6184634
nt op
>all other edges should be smaller than that edge
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
everything makes sense now, that makes drawing perfect cubes more easy.
>all other edges should be smaller than that edge
btw that only applies to cubes.

I got confused by the example used, all neighboring lines cannot be larger than those closest to the viewer, thank you for nothing

>>6184660
Nepotistic connections and asian genes
They never hire gweilos for this

>>6184688
>I got confused
same, but because i was thinking in boxes and not cubes.

>>6184660
pyw
I work for manjuu btw

>all other edges should be smaller than that edge
did a quick test
yep, he's right.
Why i never thought about that...
I Didn't know cubes were so easy

>>6184706
>things get smaller the further away they are
we're going to revolutionize art lads.

>babbies’ first perspective lesson

>>6184593
Why does every stream of every anime artist start with the sketch already laid in and ready to ink/color? I wanna see the entire process goddamn it

>>6184752
ruins the illusion if you see them tracing the reference.

>watching krenz
first 10 minutes is just him shitting his students

>>6184735
>>6184706

>>6181630
Why not Vilppu?

>>6184800
Let's see vilppu's lolis.

>>6184751
>>6184735
learn to read

>>6184906
no u

>>6181630
He only draws scps?

>>6182885
Imagine seeing a piece and saying “oh that is my knee I know it”

>>6184988
>scps
yeah
we are learning to draw head here.

>>6184752
Because doing linework is tedious and uninteresting. They start at the painting stage because it's more fluid and error tolerant. Line art even for those who are good at is it hours of
>Draw line as fast as possible to get best look
>Fucked it up
>ctrl-z
>redo attempt line again
>Fucked it up again
>Repeat 5 times for every single line in the drawing.
>3 hours later still only have the outline done and nobody cares vs 4 hours to have a finished painting.

Anyone here ever drew a gun dual wielder?
I'm too retarded to come up with a pose I'm satisfied with.

>>6181873
I have them but I don't feel like giving.

>>6185042
https://youtu.be/1tM-4XV75zY
https://youtu.be/gMllB8eieII

>>6185046

>>6185046

>>6183022
I lied, I copied another anime thing.
In this case, I realized I should have blocked out the body better before-hand rather than copy along with the original artist because in the end I think the body proportions were a bit screwed up. I'm probably not going to fully shade this one, so moving on.

>>6185056
>>6185051
here's a webm i made of one of them for a shitpost thread though
You can find the rest if you look hard enough

>>6185035
you're describing someone who's bad at line work. Good artists take longer on the sketch than inking it.

>>6185057
SOVL

>>6185161
Aw, thanks anon.
Does anybody know a way to do good line work with pencil? should I use a black colored pencil instead of a soft lead regular one? 8B just gets blunt so quickly and the lines become big and soft, and frankly using it to shade isn't even that good if I want a black color.

>>6185074
>no_construction_fkey.webm
But this is literally construction. What gives?

>>6185243
The rules for lineart apply in traditional and digital.
Line strenght in this order
1. Outlines
2. Inlines
3. Details

Also keep in mind things that are closer have stronger lines than things that are further, and lines in light are lighter than lines in shadow.

Fuck coloring hair I can't find the logic

>>6185262
pyw
so we can help you

>>6185243
colored pencils blunt even faster than 8b.

>>6185268
That's annoying, I haven't had any in forever.
I guess I just need to be meticulously keeping my pencil at the same level of sharpness during the linework?
I'm not sure if I'm going about it well using 8B for the lines. Maybe I should be using like B and using 8B just for blacking out larger areas.

>>6185275
Oh, sorry I meant to (you) >>6185255
This is also helpful information for me to keep in mind.

>>6185264
kemofure is a dead soulless husk now, it's time to move on

Is overpolishing your sketches a bad thing?

>>6185265
It's fine just wanted to rant but thanks

>>6185342
But I wanna see it anyway now. It might help me learn.

>>6185354
learn how to shade a sphere
https://youtu.be/L0O8fodBpRc
i'm assuming you already know perspective

>>6185246
Once you understand why it is titled that way, you will draw better.
I can't tell you explicitly though as that will spark a debate.
The only way to make it click is to draw lots more.

it's like a secret art enlightenment technique.

I did shade again the clothing, this time without having look at the original while paining or any of the previous copies for 2weeks
1. the shading of the boobs is "acceptable", but the angle of shadows the original has gives the boobs a way better rounder and not too sagging appearance
2. I totally ignored the armpit part
3. for some reason I ignored the shape of her body, instead of taking into consideration her belly, I shaded that area as if it was hollow
4. didnt gave shade to the space between the boobs
5. I messed up the tension folds in the clothes

>>6185474
some dude was asking for a timelapse or something, there you go
https://files.catbox.moe/qh4eip.mp4

Original post
>レース模様の解説
https://fantia.jp/posts/1333969

>>6185057
Is this Small Raphtalia?

Draw Mona!

Should i use vector layer if i want something like this?

>>6185561
that's traditional lineart...

what is increasing the chroma?

>>6185693
chroma means saturation. what video/course is this? it looks really nice

>>6185728
leepix class101

Is this dolls good for pose and face refs? I spend a lot of time starring at them on pinterest instead of drawing, want to obtain one and draw her.

>>6185561
for lineart on sai, maybe

>>6185810
Try and post your result.

So I'm doing krentz copying and simplifying things to 5/6 shapes exercise to improve my accuracy but I'm doing it traditionally and don't want to use a mouse to do it. Can I use printed artworks instead?

>>6186113
in fact there is a rule, that says if you do something else than loomis on paper the universe will explode

Im trying to improve but im still new at drawing on a wacom. Ill try to drawn everyday

Another Eye collage, I got really out of ideas by the middle of the second row.

>>6186153
>Ill try
>already ngmi before even starting

What can I learn from Sanrio in terms of stylization, character design, and any other elements that catch the eye (as in the characters and art look noticeably more wonky than high-level work yet they're more exciting and are easier to market)

What can I learn from Sanrio in terms of stylization, character design, and any other elements that catch the eye (as in the characters and art look noticeably more wonky than high-level work yet they're more exciting and are easier to market)?

I'm about to fuck up some hands on an otherwise decent enough sketch. I hope you're all ready.

>>6186235
Not as bad as I was expecting.
Done for the night though.
Sorry for the shitty quality. I plan on moving the mouth down a bit, and I think making the hands and cup smaller now that I'm looking at the reference again.

any glaring issues before i refine the linework?

>>6186271
OK gime a few mins

>>6186261
you fucked up the face instead

>>6186271
The hips are fucked

perspective study
I tried to simplify some muscles that I invented, like krenz.

>>6185478
>he delivered
thanks anon

>>6186261
hands + arms and cup is way too big

Don't forget to practice old men and cakes /asg/

>>6186349
as an ugly bastard ntr enjoyer, way ahead of you buddy

>>6186349
ntr doujin when?

>>6186271
okay, some part of her hip is missing if you follow the countour of the leg in the left, then theres the fucking hands, hand in the right is broken as fuck see the ref, the other hand has the fingers with almost the same lenghtand level each, and the palm or back of the palm is too thicc looks like a potato, the legs are not really bad and it really comes to taste i guess, but the leg in the right is way too exagerated stylistically imo it looks like its melting, but that ankle is definitelly too far out on both sides so the ankle should be pushed towars the leg a bit, the neck is way too large or so it seems but i think is the jaw being too horizontal making the neck look larger also the neck should be more centered, then theres the skirt that looks flat and stiff.

Now what i would do is make the skirt twist following her legs and torso twist maybe not as exagerated as i did... then i would make the leg in the left more uhhh dynamic as the other leg because it looks off compared to the other aslo add some wrinkles on the corseth or whatever is called where the waist is turning.
oh yeah broken engrish gomen

>>6186349
No thank you.

>>6186349
of course

>>6186358
thanks a ton! appreciate the diagrams
i kinda just traced over the right leg from the gesture and redid the left leg way after
i'll work on fixing everything, probably won't be done till tmr though

>>6186358
>That skirt flow

What are you, a magician?

>>6186361
Based old handsome enjoyer

>>6186355
>>6186357
Based ugly bastard enjoyer

>>6186359
Thats fine too.

Color study.

Weird how I always feel that my lineart is way too strong, but then it turns out to weak after the rendering is done.

>>6186344
Yup.
>>6186288
Rude. But like I said I'm going to adjust the mouth some. It's pretty close to the reference apart from that

Taking a pic before doing much of the final lines or shading gave me an opportunity to overlay it on the original and it's pretty close, but gives me an idea of how badly I fucked up the size of the hands. Dangerously close to tracing, but this'll be my last proper anime thing for a few days so I'll get over it, gonna do some fundamentals grinding on the long weekend.

>>6186704
off model, use reference

>>6186358
How do I construct anime faces like you?

>>6186993
just use basic forms to deconstruct

>>6187009
I can deconstruct realistic heads but anime is a total mystery to me.

>>6187011
anime heads are based on real faces, however they are stylized, so you need to collect lots of refs of the style you want to study there's no a method that will work for everything because each style is different, so just get your refs and start deconstructing if you already know how a real face looks from any angle this is even easier.

>>6187014
So desu ka.

>>6187014
Fucking Baki
>I'm going to make a totally unique manga style
>I'll call it "ugly characters"

>>6187021
Baki isnt a manga where every male and female are top models to appeal to waifutards

>>6182675
heh, you reminded me of the classic

>>6182675
not sure why some people shitting on you, but keep goin man i see potential

>>6187068
>J-Just do loomis forever bro you're gonna draw anime heads in a few years

>>6185478
another one of these copies
https://files.catbox.moe/u41t4o.mp4

I slept when anon posted krenz course
Anyone still got the link?

>>6187148
You are too late!
https://www.notion.so/krenz-color-new-week-1-026666f8bf7d4cb4815d111b016daeee

>>6187148
Isn't it in the archives? Check like 4-5 threads back

>>6187148
T___O doesn't wait for anyone. Too bad bro.

>>6187148
you guys ask for this every fucking day and its been posted for a week. at this point if you dont have the notes already then thats on you the mirrors are probably still up if youre lucky, go fishing

>>6180619
>>6180619
Ok I can copy good I guess. Where do I go from here? The jump from

>copy
to
>creating bodies with construction
is just... insane. What the fuck is this hurdle.

>>6187171
>Ok I can copy good I guess
post the original and your copy

>>6187166
i found one gofile link in past 3 threads and it's fucking 120 kbps so i gotta wait for 10 hours
what the fuck is this shit file hosting

>>6182402
>>6182398
I feel so much better about my drawings...
>he sounds so depressed

>>6187177
should honestly be in the op mega but i dunno who manages that

>>6186864
Hands fixed I think.
I'm gonna go ahead and finish it after work if anybody has any specific feedback before then. It's just gonna be some minimal pencil shading though and darker lines.

>>6187171
you might wanna look at what franklin did to become a good writer, he did not do the same for chess and was absolute trash, while to this day people still think his books were good
https://files.catbox.moe/vtu3jk.png
I've been doing kinda what he did but applied to drawing
I'm good at copying but leave me alone and I'll go to shit, but trying to improve that
here you can see a copy
https://files.catbox.moe/wym3cf.png
and here >>6185474 trying to solve the same problem but on my own, I will need many iterations it seems, but I see hope at the end of this process

>>6187088
you need this anon
https://youtu.be/J5zVFlMQZEs

>>6187237
now that's better

>>6187237
i get a feeling of picrel or maybe the face features are too misaligned, looks cute though i really like it

>>6187283
Gotcha. There are some changes I can make to the face, again I'm kind of overlaying the sketch onto the reference which I think is cheating a little bit because it makes it obvious what's wrong. But also the reference is like my favorite picture so I'd rather fuck it up as little as possible.

>>6187293
Your reference is fucked up.

>>6187294
I'm okay with that.

>>6187300
In all seriousness, if you don't want to stay /beg/, get better taste or leave /ic/ if you don't care.

>>6187293
if you want to to become soulless just do everything this guy says >>6187303

>>6187294
the ref is okay, is only his drawing that is fucked up

>>6187303
It's fine. I'm going back to fundamentals after this one. When I'm less /beg/ I'll do a less copied, less fucked up version and I'll be able to compare it with this one.

Posting my work

Average no pressure sensetivity enjoyer
https://youtu.be/0Cta5_AiE_8

>>6187479
Thanks, very cute. Like her belly. I'm also don't like pressure control and like cute bellies.

>>6185938
I'm not sure it works and this thing is pretty expensive. And I can't find doll making thread to make a cheaper one by myself. And she's not big and soft to get her for any other purposes (like hugs etc).

>>6187293
>>6187315
No, the part above the nose is not aligned with the jaw so she looks like she has a receding jaw.

>>6187565
just just gave her a dog face

i just got a tablet and tried copying anime and it came out so wanky, like a chinese dollar store version. i can already see the color is too dark, mouth and eyes are off, everything is cranky. its harder than i thought

Tried to draw my husband

>>6187593
the refs i mixed.... don't know what the fuck I'm doing lol

>>6187512
Oh I meant studying from photo, I get what you mean now. Yeah I had considered the same thing, but it's expensive and I'd want to make sure I get a doll that feels special to me, potentially custom-made, which increases the cost even more.

>>6187324
gmi fotm clout chaser

>>6187512
>>6187607
Oh speaking of dolls, I remember this Japanese doll Brunet has https://youtu.be/xN_UrCy_toQ?t=848 here that'd look pretty awesome to have. Sadly he has no reference for it and I wouldn't know where to find it.

finally downloaded krenz course and it has a fucking password on it jesus christ

>>6186825

teach me your ways

this is pretty accurate

>>6180619
somenoe got Pharan brushes, Tapoioca and Krupuk?
where can i find them for free?

>>6187626
>Sadly he has no reference for it and I wouldn't know where to find it.
Isn't it a pretty common BJD (balljoint doll) from Aliexpress or Ebay? They aren't so cute as >>6185810 but should be usable for posing too.
>>6187607
I can do it myself (I like to work with 3D CAD's, 3D print, sewing etc much more than draw) but I don't know how to do cute hair. Also painting the eyes is a tricky part. I'm already tried to model and print cute face and it isn't very hard. But I'm little ashamed to mess with dolls b'cause I'm not a girl. Drawing looks more safe way to satisfy my need in cuteness.

>>6187565
GMI
>>6187576
NGMI

does anyone have a basic gestalt to Krenz
tl:dr what is the Krenz gameplan/order of operations

>>6187593
I am so lonely and horny
Be my gf pls reeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6187783
do you look and act like Monama? But in all seriousness I wouldn't mind a drawing buddy to grind it out with if you're as shitty as me.

what’s special about this krenz stuff that’s not just knowing how to copy a reference side-by-side? actual question

>>6186349
Hot

>>6186113

>>6182885
Any idea what the sources for two pics from the top right are?

>>6187789
>do you look and act like Monama?
nah, i am not cringelord
>I wouldn't mind a drawing buddy
same, but I have social anxiety, talking to a woman would literally kill me lol
>out with if you're as shitty as me.
my "art" is just meh
thanks anyway

>>6187593
Wide

>>6187836
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99655715
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97224938

>>6186113
of course, try to copy it and then you can use tracing paper to trace the sape and compare both, you are not going to be able to reorganize the shapes but you can scan your work and do that step with mouse...

>>6187692
>Isn't it a pretty common BJD (balljoint doll) from Aliexpress or Ebay?
He said he bought it in Japan and it was expensive. The picture I posted doesn't convey it but it's rather big actually.

>>6187791
it's the same thing but asian

>>6184241
>bridgman
how do I study bridgman? Looking at his book is like trying to read a fucking ancient tome written in another language. I can copy his stuff sure, but I'm not understanding the science

>>6187825
you have my permission

>>6186113
i remember flipping my monitor to trace when i didnt have a tablet

>>6187791
nothing special with it, it just train ur accuracy lol.

>>6187913
read hampton first

>>6180619

>>6186153
>>6186170
I really want to make it an habit to improve, even if i suck at this

>>6180619
Source/blog of the anon who drew that?

>>6177500
At least you get some praise from me for drawing Teto.

>>6188046
Keep it up.

>>6188058
I don't post much
https://twitter.com/Kirin_curry

>>6187626
Seems like a worse body-chan honestly.

>>6187647
tonyo

>>6187679
Sure but I still have ways to go.
Basically just use a soft brush for rendering, watch the lineart, and think about why the artist you are copying did things in the way they did, keep the light source and such in mind.
Also not sure if you can read it but this book has helped me a lot technique wise.

https://exhentai.org/g/2087067/f939cd20ba/

I'm tired

Elf

what course does krenz tackles about his method of breaking down the figure?

>>6188309
>の塗り方 フェチが芽生える作画流儀
nta
yep that book is really good, especially the videos that come with the book

how can i do this with clip studio ?

>>6188469
https://streamable.com/dmxa8t

>>6187324
>>6187609
Does drawing Xenoblade really make you get hundreds of likes/retweets automatically?

anyone know any artist that posts their sketches or lineart

>>6188556
だーく
さっち
だんじょう
白告姬
レイグレの人
(Sorry if there some NSFW artists, I'm use anti-18+ filter in my Pixiv account and don't know if they have any NSFW works)

>>6188556
basically every nip artbook ever made will have it

Is it really fine to draw all that shit on top of the reference? It makes things really a lot easier and I wonder if I’m really training accuracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLSxAVoQVIU
I'm retard, help... I don't get it

>>6188928

>>6188950
https://youtu.be/KixNx5POpL0

>>6188928
Watched it partially but he's basically talking about how to simplify pictures into basic shapes which makes it easier to analyze their structure, and to think in such basic shapes when drawing your own stuff. adding too much detail and then thinking "well why does this look like shit" is something he wants to prevent by having a real solid base first.
He also talks about negative shapes when looking at pictures to grasp forms.

is her head 2 big ? using 3D model for ref

>>6187626
>Sadly he has no reference for it and I wouldn't know where to find it.
Anon from /toy/ said "That's a Dollfie dream with a DDH-02 head and medium bust, they're about 58cm tall (all parts standard from the Volks store)".

>>6189285
Some practical joker came by and added random numbers of zeros onto the end of these prices. haha

I love making anime girls in games like koikatsu but I suck at drawing them. Can anyone here relate to my pain?

>>6189285
Thanks for checking.

>>6189404
Yes. I like Kisekae2 flash character generator. But I hope I will be able draw simple pictures with practice after Villpu Manual.

>>6187237
Okay I finished it. I changed the angle of the face like some people were suggesting.

Does anybody have a pdf of "Drawing! Gun & Knife Combat Poses Style Graphics Reference Book"?

>>6188483
anon what ruler is that ? i only have 6 rulers in my csp

I realised why I don't want to draw. I decide to start a day with some simple sketch, now it's seven hours later, I am still drawing. No I am not colouring it, I am still basically sketching, my lineart. I haven't eaten yet, I haven't drunk anything. I am pissed. I am exhausted. And I know that if I stop, I will avoid drawing for as long as possible. I want to draw, but I hate the fucking process. And I know that people can draw complete works in 45 minutes. I hate myself.

>>6190170
Sounds like you might be one of the ones that makes it, anon.
You're already at the hating art stage, which is like 90% of what art school is for.

>>6190172
Except I am alone for this. Peerless and without a guide.

>>6190185
No you're not. You're on /ic/. Stick around and you can also be a soulless grinder!
Also, pyw!

>>6190170
>And I know that people can draw complete works in 45 minutes
Why don't you try to draw cute loose sketches in 45 minutes instead of licking precise complete work for hours? Thin stabilized line is overrated for begs, you can start to practice it when you can do a good sketch in minutes. Read Vilppu and start be cool! Also PYW, maybe you're master already.

>>6190213
>>6190199
I am not convinced. I consider myself permabeg. I decided to draw something after week of trying to avoid it and now i only feel miserable. I hate my lineart more than anything. I can't draw hair. And my strokes are inaccurate. And because I am dogshit, I can never get to the point of learning how to render. Because I just give up at sketching/lineart phase.

>>6190230
>Because I just give up at sketching/lineart phase.
Show your_sketch_. Can you do good beautiful sketch like >>6190213 or you think sketch newer beautiful?

>>6190230
Most people that practise coloring don't use their own work you can just color someone elses lineart

>>6190243
I don't sketch like that. I try to use one line and make everything clean. I asked here how to sketch but nobody gave me an answer, except the "just draw".

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