/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6178244
i should take a 6 month break too

>>6178244
There is no progress in there, it's all the same.

>>6178244
3 days is not much progress

>>6178244
esdeath schizo is that you?
i've missed you bro, im glad you are still here and i think you got better too!

>>6178283
Thanks, I think so too. I had carpal tunnel (still do).

>>6178282
>>6178276
Compare Day 1 to Day 3. Day 1 was messy, chicken scratching and very rough. Also no ref.
Day 2-3 and Day 3-1 have very different bodies. Day 3-1 is much more curvy and sexy, and the line is much cleaner. There's a clear improvement and yes improvement does happen in a matter of days.
Also compare to last year's progress. The output is much different. I'm producing months' worth of work in a matter of days after switching to trad.

>>6178292
>tracing
NGMI

>>6178244
>youwillneverbejapanese
>youwillneverreachday7
>youwillneverjoinevolve
>youwillnevercurecarpaltunnel
>youwillneversurpass/beg/

>>6178303
So if you're accusing me of tracing then that just shows how good it is right? There's a very clear improvement.

>>6178306
Not quite sure what you're seething about but I already reached Day 7 before my break.

>>6178310
>>6178306
No ref, from imagination

>>6178244
I think I know what you really want to draw

>>6178311

Sure, Ill have a go

>>6178312
Kek

>>6178315
coom gains

Here's a more obvious comparison. When I started vs today.

>>6178315
Great job anon.

>>6178292
You are gonna make it esdeath bro

I wish i saved my old digital pieces
they were so shit even compared to to this scribbles on the left

>>6178244
Oh you finally reincarnated
I think there were a lot of people in beg asking where have you gone

>>6178350
He went to /3/ for a bit.

>>6178333
Cute loli

>>6178322

>>6178322
You're not that bad for how much you're meme'd in /beg/ anon. Good enough to do coomer art for good bux even. Don't get complacent though and keep going!

Good to see you again, Esdeathfag, and it's good to see you went back to weeb shit, at least you get some tangible appeal from all of them unlike whatever the fuck happened last time kek.

Not going to poke on your "progress" even though I dont see much improvement on much fundamentals like usual, but it's interesting to see how straightforward you've become with lines and detail from day 1 to 3, latter being far more cleaner. Mind your proportions and bodies though, you're making the same mistakes from last time. One of this days you're going to learn how bodies structure and anatomy works, Im sure of it.

As for progress myself... Im going to get bitched on, aint I?
One could say there is no progress and I've just been jumping back and forth trying to learn my shit... and for the most part it's true; as of late my art has been an act of constant self discovery and constant sacrificing. Everything to this point has led me to consistency and identity over the stuff I already had. Im satisfied, so I just need to put myself together and finish my pendings just so I can unleash whatever needs to be unleashed.

>>6178454
I didn't really intent to make any of them lolies but thanks anyway

>>6178244
Showing everyday progress is like weighing yourself everyday. You may lose and gain pounds everyday, but at the end of the day there's not going to be much progress versus doing weekly weigh ins.

It would be better to show a week's progress or monthly instead. That way it would be easier to see the actual progress you made. Otherwise you are just showing off that you drew something for 3 days in a row.

>>6178244
No one draws on ic so you won't see much

Nothing overly ambitious, but It's nice to see improvement happening.

>>6178762
worse, original had better shapes

>>6178244
OH MY GOODNESS
COULD IT BE?
IT IS!
ESDEATH SCHIZO HAS RETURNED TO /ic/!

>>6178809
The chosen one hath returned to deliver us from the AI schizos

>>6178809
>>6178832

Please tell me what redeeming quality esdeathfaggot has to compell you to worship him so?

>>6178861
he is a higher class of schizo

>>6178861
oh nothing great really. Just the fact he draws on a board about drawing already makes him better than a some of the "normal" anons. And frankly I rather see a thread about his drawings than AI doompostin #325267. It's far more entertaining.

>>6178878
>>>/i/

>>6178880
what the fuck i never knew this existed

>>6178762
The other anon is right; left has better shapes. Also personally I like the left's face more. Right has better anatomy at least.

>>6178891
>>6178779
Hmmm. Yeah, I can see what you mean. I like how the pauldron/pant leg/hat/scarf sit better on the left. Though I feel like the anatomy/line quality/fluidity/proportions have improved much more on the right as well. Assimilating the structural aesthetics into a new style always takes some getting used to, so I'll have to work on that more I guess!

>>6178762
Both anons are retarded and wrong. This is a clear improvement.

>>6178915
Thank you for saying that, anon. I was starting to second-guess myself.

>>6178915
Don't mislead him faggot

>>6178974
> I feel like the anatomy/line quality/fluidity/proportions have improved
Indeed.

It's not uncommon to make major gains and then lose some appeal in the process (it happens to the best of us). In your case it's not even a big deal, there's just a few things about shapes that you should take note of: in the left picture the pant has a more interesting asymmetric shape, while in the right one it has more of a saggy potato sack look. You've also shied away from using sharp edges; the drapery in the right picture looks better but in rounding it out so much its lost some visual interest. All minor stuff so don't sweat it.

>>6179015
Cool, I really appreciate you extrapolating that for me. This helps a lot. I never care when people tell me something needs work, I get anxiety about it when people say that, but then don't tell me *why* it's not working well.

>>6179034
also figured i would offer crit. The shapes of the original scarf around the neck in particular are much more interesting, and the overlap of the midsection and arms adds some depth where it's lacking in the other piece. I also think the boots are slightly better in the first one. The left one looks a bit more grounded and appears to have more weight put on it, and the boot going up the (our right) leg reaching a bit past the calf results in more visually interesting asymmetry imo

Overall good improvement, but I do like some of the stylistic and shape choices in the original as other anons have pointed out

>>6178333
progress made.
How much practice did you put in?

>>6179092
Thanks anon! I don't think I've ever received such quality critiques as I have with this progress piece, lol. It's a big help.

>>6179098
if you asking how many hours did i put in then i'll say i draw ~2 hours a day everyday
Sometimes it's more like for example those 3 girls on the right took me 4 hours each and i was drawing them these past 3 days
sometimes i can go as far as 12 hours day depending on how i feel about the piece i'm making
Of course there were times when i could drop drawing for some time and if i put that account i'll say i draw for ~3 years everyday
I have 6-7 full sketchbooks and ~70-100 pieces in digital

If you asking about what i did then nothing specific
Just your standard proko/hampton/loomis and a bunch of other random courses and of course master studies
My learning process is pure chaos since i never had any mentors

>>6179140
Thanks for the insight. I wondered about the hours, since I want to take my practice to the next level and I feel 2 hours a day doesn't cut it. Alas, there's nothing on which I could cut back. I could prioritize drawing over the other thing I am doing, or ask my job to reduce my waging to an 80% position or something. Probably I'll just have to cut back on the other thing and free up the weekends. Good to see, though, that 2 hours daily yield results eventually.

>>6179146
I lied a little
It is not a 2 hours on average it is atleast 2 hours a day i wanted to say

>>6179159
I see. It's a huge commitment over 4 years, but it paid off for you. I'll have to plan accordingly if I wanna leave /beg/ behind. Decisions, decisions.

first time posting on my art on /ic/
i started drawing in april of 2021
i hope the pic rel isnt bad quality... didnt want to spam the thread with one pic at a time and couldnt think of a better solution

>>6179166
I'll never understand people like this, don't you see how unappealing this shit is? It isn't even a matter of skill you just have bad taste anon.

>>6179184
please elaborate
how do i make it more appealing?

>>6179191
NTA, but find successful artists you like, then start to implement things they do into your drawings. Bam, combo of appeal and unique aesthetic if you borrow from enough people.

>>6179196
>start to implement things they do into your drawings
what exactly?
composition? style?
i genuinely didnt expect this critique because its so... subjective? i agree, art must be appealing but i cant judge/know what someone finds appealing. isnt 'taste' entirely subjective?
i cant improve at something subjective. critiques on anatomy and lighting and things that are objective are much easier to comprehend...

>>6179166
>>6179216
NTA but honestly I don't agree with the other anon. I think what you're trying to convey is allright, you're just not there in terms of anatomy and 3d form. Just keep studying. Your faces have actually improved somewhat, the bottom left has allright persepctive and facial anatomy. Keep it up.

>>6179228
You didn't find the way to draw head for 5 years? Anon what were you doing
Probably nothing and those 2 drawings are just day separate right?

>>6179232
So the bodies only look 1 day apart? I hope that's because the 2017 body wasn't that bad.

>>6179228
proportions have improved. Definitely need to see some heads and feet though.

>>6179306
I really can't because 4chan has a VERY negative perception in my neck of the woods Posting drawings with too much detail here might give away who I am which could get me in trouble.

>>6179321
But you are a nobody, no offense bud.

>>6179393
To you. But not to my peers, patrons, and elders.

>>6179393
To you. But not to my peers, patrons, and elders.

Certain "communities" literally troll the shit out of this board for laughs. It's damn near an official right of passage in professional and collegiate settings to clown and derail.

I actually find this place more useful than it's given credit for. But responses like yours is exactly what entertains them. No offense.

Posted in the last thread, might as well post here too. How did I do?

>>6179228
Yaoi hands

>>6179437
You remind me of myself. You haven't been drawing long but you seem to be getting the hang of it a lot faster than I. You probably know who I am because I follow you with two accounts.

>>6179421
Yeah right, shitposting and trolling, certainly sound like gmi behaviors

>>6178244
>Esdeath is back and actually a lot better
Very nice. Do you draw with your right hand again?

>>6179511
>You probably know who I am because I follow you with two accounts.
... Snowbox???

>>6178333
Good taste, fkey is great.

Don't know where I'm going, all I know is I don't like where I am

>>6179421
Getting lols outta 4Chan in professional and legitimate circles has kinda fallen off a bit due to /ic loosing alotta standing and relevancy.

I never really saw /ic as being overly retarded. I just think the more sensible users exist in certain threads.

>>6178244
Schizo improvement
>>6178315
Coom improvement
>>6178333
Good shit, I hope you don't just draw characters without backgrounds.
>>6178516
I guess this kinda counts as an improvement? I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to draw in this style.
>>6178762
Quite strange, both pictures have their own strengths and weaknesses. I'd say that you got better at anatomy and perspective but lost some shapes as other anons mentioned.
>>6179166
Your anatomy and proportions have gotten better but your faces are still dogshit. You need to try drawing appealing stuff.
>>6179228
Headless horsemen/10
Better lines better anatomy but still feels blank, even soulless.
>>6179437
On one hand you have improved on the other hand your characters still look shapeless. Like amorphous silicon. They don't have a solid foundation.
>>6179665
Nice work. Tho it feels like you are being kinda lazy.

>>6179228
>>6179321
I recognized your art sand its still looks the way it has since since i first saw it in 2020. But good on you for leaving this hellhole for the most part and finding a community.

feeling bad cuz i've made no gains in 5 years.

>>6179705
Post your work faggot

>>6179677
Is it possible to find my older line arts on here? If so, that might be a problem.

>>6179677
I started posting here around 2018. I started out drawing porn, but
is it possible to find my older line arts on here? If so, that might be a problem

>>6179421
Get the fuck over yourself faggot. Youre in a hi beg (judging by your skill) troon community and your improvement is abysmal for 5 years. Ahahaha, he makes fun of beginners as a rite of passage what a guy, man.

>>6179421
>communities
Dial 8

>>6179421
>>6179738
Btw I totally believe what you say, I just think you are trash skill wise. Tell me more about these communities if you can, wanna se if my senses are correct.

>>6179743
Exactly lol

>>6179228
You post 2 random sketches?
You intentionally erase beg heavy sections?
Your post gets a stupid fucking amount of responses.

Hmmmmm

>>6179776
I still love you Anon

>>6179738
Yes, because clearly art is a contest and unless you're the "best" you're not worth anything. lol
Makes total sense there champ.

>>6179779
I'm not getting sucked into this. Fucking dilate.

>>6178244
Not this garbage again

>>6179228
>5 years
>still can't draw a head
>still can't draw hands
>still just a floating form
>still just the same boring pose

>>6179791
Oh and no feet. It's like you tried to avoid improving like the plague

This is fucking golden lmao

>chris chan has improved
>esdeath schizo has improved
>no talent i drew for 6 months schizo has improved

we're all gmi

>>6179794
>>6179799
>>6179807
Dilate.

january

>>6179826
july

Am I ngmi + L т_т

>>6179421
>he fell for the community average graph.
>community he joined draws the same as him
No offense bud. You can't give up. It will only get worse from here on out.

>>6179862
cute jackO, guilty gorilla will be pleased, u have better lineart now

>>6179862
hands need work, but the higher hand of jack-o shows some promise in terms of giner shapes (although the fingers are a little too long, keep grinding) so nbd.

perspective and proportions are probably your biggest area of needed improvement. jack-o's neck is very awkward, as are her hips and the relation to her midsection.

work on construction and breaking down the figure into stuff like box forms in space to see how they should overlap and relate to one another. your work actually has very nice appeal and shape language, and a lot of the individual parts are very well done. Tohru's legs and anatomy in general are really good. It's mostly just fitting those doll-like parts together that needs practice. At the moment they're a bit disjointed and thus the overall form looks off.

Very good improvement anon, esp from your starting point. Most of all, I can tell you have good taste and your art has appeal as a consequence. Your facial features are really nice in particular. I can see you becoming a really great artist with time and effort.

>>6178244
Updated

>>6178516
Oh yeah, thanks I remember you.
I see you've kept your style, I think you're ready for graphic design jobs if you haven't already. Could set up your own irasutoya.com

>>6181673
>just draw

>>6181696
at least he draws.

>>6181673
>casually mogs /beg/

>>6181727
Not really

>>6181727
drawing for the sake of drawing is peak /ic/ cope

>>6182327
lmao do u really wanna be an ass and tell them the truth?

>>6181673
>4 days
Good. Now keep doing that for at least 400 more days.

>>6182472
Anon sometimes the truth hurts but even if you tell them straight to their face it feels like talking to a wall.

>>6182478
Exactly so just let them live with the lie. Nobody gets hurts.

The first two are from 2016-2019-ish? Tumblr girl is the first digital art piece I ever made. The last three were all made in the past 10 months.

>>6181756
what do you mean? he plainly does, it might not be very good, but at least its starting point for critiques, he engage with it or not is another issue. The problem I had with a lot of stupid questions on /ic/, is that many will talk endlessly but never had anything to show for it, as if they didn't even bother to put pen to paper at all. To talk about improving drawing skill in nearly complete abstract like that, you couldn't really provide type of critique that is specific enough to be useful. Sure, there are good practice in generality in principle, but they are as good as platitude.

>>6182327
of course not merely so, you should have interest and goals, but its weird when I ask about those when people say they wanted to draw , I had to metaphorically drag it out of them.

>>6182472
and what is that?

Updated.

In the spirit of OP's post, I'll point out improvement over an insignificant time frame. Left is yesterday, right is today.
Two things I've learned in 24 hours:
I really liked yesterday's picture, but compared to today's, it looks like shit too me now (how bad will today's look tomorrow?)

Also, my phone camera makes it look worse than it is. It's not just because the lens is dirty and scratched, I also think it vertically flattens the image, but it could be my inability to hold the camera perpendicular. In any event, they both look slightly better in person, but not much.

>>6185781
>Also, my phone camera makes it look worse than it is. It's not just because the lens is dirty and scratched, I also think it vertically flattens the image, but it could be my inability to hold the camera perpendicular. In any event, they both look slightly better in person, but not much.
Happens for mine too. They look much better in person.

>>6185781
Also how do you shade, pencil type and brush or finger. I like the skin tone.

>>6185854
Want to know the truth? How they look through camera or on photos is actually how other people see them

>>6185868
Doubt. Angles and all.
My drawings look ten times better in real life than on camera, and I think the angle, lighting and everything affects it.

>>6185868
Also, I find that I look worse in photos than in the mirror but this also applies to friends as well. They look different in person than on camera. That's why I deleted my Facebook, because it's all fake shit.

>>6185878
Also these screens don't display color perfectly, (not that this affects my pencil drawing.) Example here, you can't see the difference between the hot and cold lights. In person I swear that where they bought warm lights the walls look brown and the cold lights make the walls look purple. I tried fir a half hour and couldn't capture it.

>>6185923
>>6185866
How did you achieve the skin tone for the second one

>>6185953
Brown paper napkin on finger, mostly using the thick outline to drag graphite around. Tombow mini eraser where needed, but very little. Paper is 100 gsm and smooth, that helps. I really have no idea and am figuring it out as I go.

>>6185866
>Pencil type
Kuru toga advance upgrade with pilot neox HB lead,
>How shade
Very little, as I said, I did the outline very thick and just dragged the graphite around. I did scribble a few places like the cheekbones and eye sockets. What I learned from the one on the left is that less is more and I ended up erasing a lot yesterday. Before June I didn't even know blending pencil was a thing.

Long story short, I quit cigarettes, weed, energy drinks, booze, and the diet pills I had been abusing for years two months ago, so drawing and obsessing about art is keeping me sane. I'm actually almost mentally okay now!

>>6185923
in your camera app you can adjust the color grading.. by default they try to guess the type of lighting and mess with grading accordingly

>>6178306
>youwillneverreachday7
Day 7 status: reached.
Thanks for the jinx anon. Seems like I will make it after all.

>>6186436
nta and I am not crabbing you but you only achieved 1 out the 5 he mentioned and that was the easiest to achieve that anybody with a small portion of their brain can do. Since you have a reputation for sticking to only short term achievements and rely too much on pep talk to even do anything, it makes us wonder if you are actually serious on improving. No offense bro, but you makes us seem like you need to be held by the hand all the way and that's bad given your age.

>>6179862
awesome work, already better than me after many years. do what >>6179998 tells you and become art god

>>6182924
please, for the love of satan, draw something else. you may think your art is interesting but to me it looks like an eighth-graders art project. you'll get good grades with it but not anything else

>>6186436
you will surpass us all one day, Esdeath-anon
I have faith you will do good unto the world with your art

>>6185781
keep learning and pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, and you'll continually keep good pace. make sure what you're drawing on is flat parallel to your face as trad drawings tend to skew as you are drawing. dont aim your camera down non-parallel either and that'll fix the differences you're seeing irl vs the photo you take

>>6178292
Lelfag is abusing his wrist
Learn to fucking hold a pencil

I don’t know what is your problem and other anons, maybe it really is autism. To improve your skills it is enough to spend an hour a day: copy anime pictures for half an hour, 3 minutes for one pic, and do the same with photos for another half an hour. A week later, you will have 140 sketches, an understanding of proportions and the ability to draw something at an acceptable level. Sure you wont become a pro but your skill will increase.

Updated my 2022 chart, you can see how much I've truly improved over a span of just 3 months. In January I wasn't even able to draw a face properly. Bottom right is my latest.
Looking forward to August.
>>6186788
Thanks anon.

>>6186747
Not really.

>>6188044
And it's even clearer when you compare it to 2021 progression using digital tablet. Trad is truly superior in every sense of the word.

>>6185781
t.me
So "tomorrow's" drawings came out like shit. No, I'm not posting them.
I blame a lack of sleep.
I don't work weekends, so maybe I'll draw something that makes my earlier "good" gave look like crap.
My point, I think, is that day to day is too small a time interval to gauge "improvement."
Not that I'm not trying anyway. OP gave me an excuse to post my beg shit, and I'm gonna do it!

>>6186788
Thanks for the advice. It's not ideal as I'm drawing at work and frequently have to use my steering wheel as my drawing surface. I'll make an effort to do as you suggest at home tho. Thanks for the encouragement!

>>6181673
kek he's actually improving

>>6178244

>>6189047
Amazing.

When does day 8 drop? Or we taking a break for the weekend?

>>6189047
What's the course from day 1?

2 months apart, I’m trying to get better at cloth. I still suck bad at figure and faces, but I think they’re also improving too

>>6189047
you really don't need to set these things up

>>6189628
u vs the guy she tells not to worry about

>>6189077
Day 8 >>6189635

>>6189077
>>6189638

>>6185781
Is this an improvement? Probably not. I did three better drawings, but they don't count as they were copying a YouTube tutorial.
I'm at home so it's a bigger sketchbook, and I don't have to stop for customers or use my steering wheel for a table

>>6190607
Of the three, this is worst. She kinda looks like young Todd Rundgren.
https://youtu.be/8Vbz9gHQtEQ

>>6190607
Anon consider proportions of the face. There are basic rules, like eyes being halfway on the face, nose to mouth and mouth to chin being equal distance, etc.

>>6190619
I'm aware of these. What your seeing is a problem with implementation.
Perhaps I will try again and use an actual ruler for my guidelines target than "roughing it."
I'm getting closer, but use of a tool might accelerate the process.

Yeah, I'll try again and use a ruler this time and report back.

This better?
I don't want to continue if it isn't. I'll go do cardio and hopefully you'll respond by the time I'm done.

>>6190669
Getting there but really hammer in the proportions into your head. Remember how you studied for tests in high school, this is much easier. Just memorize them and follow it then you will make a decent head.

>>6190705
>How I studied for tests in high school
I don't think fucking my English teacher and low key blackmailing the school into passing me will work, but I'll try harder all the same.
Thank you, anon.

I think my rendering is getting worse. I'm mentally tired I think.
I'll fuck off for now.

>>6190788
You main problem that you dont give hair any volume and you literally draw it instead of skin
Also forehead is too small looks like it has microcephaly

>>6190796
Yeah. I'm learning so much at once, I forget a lot of shit. I need to review hair as well.
I'm also getting tired of drawing these faces, and need to do other shit. Regardless, I'm done for today. I'll figure it out at work tomorrow when I get bored and have inevitably down time.
Some sleep will really help, I think.

>>6190669
I think you're overthinking things a bit. There's no need to break out a ruler; it's not that empirical. Draw a circle. Draw an oval that tapers at the bottom using that circle. Draw a vertical line cutting that oval in half. Then draw a horizontal line cutting the oval into equal quarters. The horizontal line is your eye line. The nose is halfway between the bottom of the oval and the eye line. The mouth is halfway between the nose and the bottom of the oval. Your face starts too high on the head, which is what leads to that big chin. Just focus on practising the basic form of the head without detail until you get it down.

>>6190823
>Why chin is too big
And why the forehead is too small.
If this thread is up I will do better later in the week and post.

>>6178306
>day 7
What is this meme

>>6190788
t.me
So I didn't do shit with pencil today. I tried hatching with pen and it went poorly.
Even I got home, I broke out the miniatures and paint for the first time in six weeks and surprisingly, I had a much easier time with the airbrush and edge highlighting. So sketching in pencil seems to have improved a skill I haven't touched in a month and a half...

Not mine.

>>6179421
Lol, you are a troll.

Not mine.
2016.

2022

Eu03

EU03 now.

>>6179665
looks like you're way better than you used to be, and for what it's worth, the stuff you make now genuinely looks really good anon, you should be proud of yourself.

>>6178333
wait so do you draw stuff like this from an exact reference, or do you invent everything, both the character design and pose?

>>6196653
i can use references or draw from imagination
For those girls i used reference for posses
Characters? They just random girls with random hair color. Costumes like sailor fuku or maid outfit i can draw from imaginataion at this point but can also use referenses to enhace believabity

redid this one a while ago

>>6196688
I really like this for some reason, even if there isn't much progress to be seen. It's just perfect. Can you post more?

>>6196450
how???

>>6178244
Absolutely based esdeath poster. Keep that grind up

>>6178312
OP has been exposed, Freud is rising from the grave to look

>>6179862
that is so fucking cute and cool anon
in the case you're still lurking, do you happen to have a blog?

How many people here providing critique can actually draw? Some of you people here going fucking in.

>>6178762
you may think left has better shapes but right is feeling the form, solid improvement anon

>>6196444
>those heads
lmao

>>6197099
I mean, it was basically what I intended to do back then. That's as good as it gets with cellshade style

Here's another one I redid earlier this year. More painterly

>>6198511
pyw.

>>6188044
You've improved so much, it's giving me hope too.
Whenever I think of giving up again, I'll think of you.
Thank you, Esdeath anon.

Samefagging nigger

>>6198527
>merc wip but with a generic thot
do you wanna get a job as a concept artist?

>>6198639
What if it's an anon falseflagging/typing just like him to make you think it's samefagging?

>>6198670
When I painted the first one? Sure. Though nowadays I do mostly illustration work and sometimes concept art

I just painted over to what I originally intended. So indeed there's not much to it besides generic thot

>>6198693
good, don't waste your skills doing souless drawings

>>6198703
Lol concept art is soulless now?

>>6198711
always has been

>>6186788
>refs are cheating
Is that one a statement or implied to be claimed?

>>6198711
newfag? concept art is the most souless job you can have in the industry, that's why merc wip is a meme

>>6198724
>>6198732
>newfag?
I've been here on and off since before I painted the one on the left. The ride never ends anons
Merc wip is a meme because of the "pyw" crowd


I don't agree though. I think concept art can definitely have soul

>>6178244
wtf i wanted to drwal after i have free day of work i see 2 videos abou vilence and my day is ruined?
i feel like i'm not seeing things? like realy looking at the lines they all look like the sae iamge like why?/
i feel like my eyes are as if they where fly eyes
i jot good sleep done last night! HOW CULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME!
i feel like i want to shit but i don't want to waste the time woundering if i truly done or not!

i don't drink engy juce often but
sonic sid thire slushy machine out i returned with a melted slurry cooky shake for my roommate!
got why is everything sutcha cluster fuck!
i mean even the wather! it hasent raied for a moth! and just resently it' acts like its going to rain!
fuck i'm going to sleep like one would restart a computer, maby i am night owl

>>6198726
Its implied the person isn’t using refs as often as they should be, therefore they will stay in plateaus for longer.
I once thought refs were cheating, but then i held an artwork I liked next to mine and felt like utter garbanzo to the skill difference. Im still feeling the consequences of not learning how to use references properly

>>6198832
merc wip is a meme because is the perfect example of people who grind art and get good at a technical level but lack flow and appeal in their works

>>6199080
you are correct, before using memory and imaignnation you must first draw a lot from reference
never using ref as a beg is like learning math without studying math, trying to just invent solutions and formulas by yourself

take this little excerpt on the great illustrator N C Wyeth and how he taught his so and students

>>6199110
merc wip may be a meme, but the concept art fags won in the end cause they keep getting hired. pic related

Ok

>>6179228

U clearly cropped and whited out certain details for what?

I haven't improve in two years or barely have improved.
I don't know what i'm doing wrong. I'm following all the advice given to me.
People told me to add more effort and details, go outside my comfort zone, do more angles/perspective, copy artists and to add more value and gesture. I'm trying to do all that.
I'm also trying to improve my lineart, hair and do harder ideas.

>>6178244
ive got few days of my first adventure with japanese girls study, but fucking file is 8000x4500 11mb and i'm not cutting it so here's a low quality screenshot.

shit is in no particular order other than:
started from blue frames WITH grid, first tracing one girl twice, trying to guess what's where.

dropped grid and then that lazy bitch in upper right corner happened because i was tired and lazy.

then the rest starting from lower left corner.

i was just tired of loomis and wanted to try something different. going back to loomis soon

dont give up

>>6179421
What a humongous faggot

>>6199918
my friend I think your problem is with your eye rather than your skill. you need to put your art against your heroes' art and reflect why theirs look better. "where do they put more detail? what part is left simple?", "where do they use straight lines over curves or vice-versa?", etc
one consistent thing that bothers me on your work though is the eye curvature. you tend to make the outer corner too low compared to the inner one which in turn skews the perspective. in a front shot with no angle, the outer corner is just slightly higher than the inner. having it too low implies the head is rotating upward and discordant perspectives on the features is what fucks up the face. please make an effort to see the face in perspective

>>6179166
who is the guy from 10/5/22?

>>6179421
I fucking h8 u. U fucking faggot nigger!!!

>>6179421
you really shook up the hive, lol ! !

>>6199183
I hate this

>>6199110
just because they dont appeal to you doesnt mean they dont appeal to everyone. Look at the weird fetish coom art, furries, and impressionism

>>6202467
Fuck you. Keep riding your big black nigger cock. Fucking faggot.

So many of you are deeply obsessed with big black dicks. Dial8 an Get a life whore!

From age 12 to 20. Still a lot of progress to make.

>>6204910
Top unironically more interesting and soulful than bottom.

Do you guys draw anything that isn't trannime girls?

>>6204910
Have you tried uhhh actually drawing?

>>6178244
>Beg is so impatient he feels the need to validate his "progress" over a fucking 3 days timespan
lol, lmao even.

>>6179421
What community are you a part of, anon?

>>6204982
>newfag doesnt know esdeathfag

>>6196688
you draw very well anon. I love how you distribute details. Do you have a blog?

>>6204910
Don't listen to the crabs, that's solid progress anon

>>6205059
>esdeathfag
DON'T THINK IT DON'T SAY IT

>>6190788
t. It's been over a week.
I think this is improvement. It's much smaller, however.

>>6205656
Did this today as well, new pen. Detail is hard. Drew off hand (holding book, no table.)

>>6178307
there isn't shame in tracing for practice, but you should try to develop/gather a system from which you can grab from your imagination and put it down on paper with good results. This is obviously tracing, I know because I have experience.

3 1/2 year difference

>>6205744
Sorry but I'm just that good, that's all. Just because I improve too quickly doesn't mean I traced. My goal isn't even to create a perfect copy either, just to reference.

>>6205969
Slow down 10 speed, your Nikes are burning…

>>6205810
flat and uninteresting
>>6205698
flat and uninteresting
>>6205208
actual progress but lame subject matter and style
>>6204910
bottom is interesting except for the furry bits
>>6198527
>>6196688
good progress but uninteresting

appeal is a fundamental as important as any other, train it as well

Too many pieces to pick from to say each year is represented fairly, but I think it gets the point across

>>6207791
Good shit anon, Unironically peak soul.
makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

>>6207737
If only there was a way to train your sense of appeal

>>6207791
Got any realism stuff? Your work is insane.

>>6207791
I fucking hate you takeuchi. Kill yourself you fucking hack.

>>6207817
2016 and 2021 are soul the rest is AI generated tier

>>6207791
>touhou, steingate and fate
the quintessential soulless normalfag gmi autist who will create beautiful splashart for the next touhou arrangement that I will play for 1-2 months before getting sick of it

>>6207875

>>6207896
What's crabby about it?
Notice how most of these are pinups or knee-up portraits?

>>6207817
Thanks, wagmi

>>6207848
I don't think so unless still life counts, picrel

>>6207852
Hack it til you make it. At least it's a very appealing sameface

>>6207875
>>6207906
ngl I hope I get approached for that sort of work one day, thanks

But yeah that is a very fair point. Been trying to address that since last year by trying to make more ambitious and involved pieces and branching into proper projects, but it's tough

>>6204919
I’ve seem to lost my spark, that is true. I would make more original characters and worlds than the ones I have now.

>>6204970
Every day for the past 10 years :(

>>6205071
>>6207737
Thank you, I knew I’d get shit for being a furry but anons are being more receptive than I thought.

>>6207791
>fateshit shartoria
At least you're improving so there's that, good job.
>>6208009
>turn shit characters into furries
and here I thought it was impossible to make that garbage worse

>>6208028
They’re my own characters. I wouldn’t be r-slurred enough to make Marceline a feline when she’s clearly a bat. I’m doing a series where I insert my characters with other gay cartoon ships because I have too much time.

>>6178244
I kneel...

>>6207737
>actual progress but lame subject matter and style

Do these more finished pieces pique your interest more?

>>6208093
you weren't born with asian genes

>>6208093
Damn, I’m really not a fan of your style.

I need to practice more interesting original designs and subjects now, that way I hope to gmi. Btw 2022 pic was greatly improved with help and crit from some anons here on /ic/, so thanks to those anons.

>>6189628
it has soul bro, keep going

>>6188053
I like how your art style for face keeps changing lol. I see a definite improvement though!

>>6207924
what did you study? i really like your rendering colors/style

>>6207791
Neat, didn't realize you still post here. Been following you for years.

>>6179166
Nice one mate, you'll get better with the facial expressions, not that bad for starters though. Try to emulate different expressions based on dragon ball z and marvel comics (example: Lobo/x-men), those ones are good to try to emulate due to the fact that are different drawing styles. Now this being said, if eventually you find yourself like "shit, I cannot draw like this...", you can always print a nice (black and white) drawing (DB z, for example), put a blank paper over it and try to draw over the lines you see from the draw under that blank page. And by using this method maybe you'll get used to that drawing style. Another tip: draw the same figure (anime/comic character body or face) 3 times per day, dont try to take it too seriously, just naturally draw it 3 times, do the best you can. The next day draw the same figure, you will notice that you will be getting wayyyy better than you'll expect :) sometimes people try to draw different things one after the other (which is not that bad at all, but), sometimes it's good to draw the same exact thing for a while so you can get really better at it ;)

>>6208093
these look like they were drawn by the youtubers at drawfee
I bet by the look of your designs you'll take that as a compliment, but take my word that it's not
you seem so far separated from your art that you have 0 drive to improve. just drawing because you can.

>>6204910
you have an actual style, congrats anon

>>6195067
The bottom of the eyes look cut-off.
The cockroach antennae look really weird and reality-bending.
Thighs are way too thick.

>>6208028
I know what I like, but thanks

>>6212139
Keep it up, some more samples would be great though

>>6213334
In regards to colour and rendering, I looked at a lot of courses on schoolism a while back, mostly Craig Mullins and Tom Fluharty come to mind. From there I've been apeing off as much as I can from kuroboshi kouhaku, takehito harada, hidari (left side), and ainy's work.

>>6213338
Thank you. It's a bit too useful of a board to stop coming back to.

>>6214152
>way too thick

>>6207791
it always inspires me when someone has Touhou as their subject matter
you are a good artist

i think im getting better

>>6217026
Downgrade.
Soul vs Soulless.

>>6217026
quite literally soul vs soulless
>lazy hatching to establish form
yep, definition of a lazy soulless retard