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How do I cope with the fact, not a single artist or illutrator or ARTIST in general, that is alive or died this century.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.
Not even loomis or leyendecker or anyone.

Knows the Why and also the How of composition?

98% of artist don't know even the how, and the 2% that seem to have some idea of the how, like loomis and leyendecker, doesn't know the WHY.

>inb4 post work
don't give a shit about your opinions of me.

I'm just putting the seed of doubt and curiosity about composition.

>but where do I learn.
To learn the how, you need to go into architectural books of the renaissance.
To learn the why you need to go into the geometry practiced during greek and egyptian times.

>> No.6175853
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>>6175841
Right..

You're the only hope of the art world. Your life is like avengers end game. You are the rebels, and the art world is the empire.

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>>6175841
how will that help me draw my anime cooom girls?

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>>6175853
How is composition some fucking marvel garbage?
you fucking retarded manchildren.

>>6175886
It's a lost art from the times of greeks.

Renaissance artists rediscovered that ancient power, but likely it has been forgotten at least since the 17 century.

Don't even search modern books.
Nobody born in last 200 years has any clue of both why and how.

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>>6175886
gotta have those anime tiddies hit the golden ratio on the canvas

>> No.6175895

>>6175841
You’re an idiot and I’ve found some great resources on composition theory, but not going to share them because you’re an idiot.

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>>6175893
>>6175895
I've read pretty much every fucking art book written by writers born this century.

NOT A SINGLE ONE WILL TEACH THE WHY.
NOT A SINGLE ONE WILL TEACH THE FUCKING WHY THEY DO THAT SHIT.

NOT ONE.
BECAUSE ART BOOKS DONT TEACH ANCIENT RELIGIONS.

FUCK YOU.

>> No.6175905

>>6175903
You have been visited by the schizo brainlet of /ic/. You will become a delusional nodraw like OP unless you post
“SHOO SHOO SCHIZO”
in this thread.

>> No.6175912

>>6175903
you were supposed to learn composition as a small child when you arranged your legos and rubber dinosaurs on your shelf, and i'm not even sure i'm being ironic
ngmi

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>>6175905
>>6175912
No, you're a fucking retard that is clueless about the fucking spiritual meanings of why those composition rules exist.

eat fucking shit.
and cope.

>> No.6175917

>>6175905
SHOO SHOO SCHIZO

>> No.6175927

>>6175905
SHOO SHOO SCHIZO

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>>6175915
It's rooted in humanism and how certain geometry is representative of the proportions of the human body. Ultimately all that matters is that it is pleasing to the eye.

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>>6175931
I literally took my dog to take a shit and couldn't stop fucking noticing every fucking tree has the fucking shape of their leaves or leaflets.

Every fucking one, from palms, to grass, to every fucking one.

The ones with rectangular shapes, just follow the same fucking shape of a vessica piscis shape without their edges, which literally looks like the square rounded vases they used back then.
Which fucking has some proportion of a fucking planet in the same mathematical relationship it has with earth.

eat shit.

>> No.6175962

>>6175841
an anon in search of esoteric divine geometry?
neat, I'm also intereted.

>> No.6175973

>>6175892
>>6175841
I'm getting tired of you chinktoid making these useless threads, you can't post your work to show credibility and can't even impart useful knowledge.You're just spamming and venting shit, you really act like a filthy chinkman, fucking hate your kind.

>> No.6175979

>>6175841
eh what do u know. ur just a dog

>> No.6175986

>>6175959
Are you on acid anon? drugs aren't good for you anoni, better sleep it off, you'll feel better in the morning

>> No.6175989

>>6175959
unironically a symptom of schizophrenia
your new favorite youtube channel: https://youtu.be/IRoo8qxZvhY

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>>6175986
>>6175989
>mfw I learn that the imperial system is derived from ancient geometry that reflects the sacred geometric relationships of the 12 number scale that goes from the shape of a leave to the proportions of the planets to the earth, to also the relationship of earth rotations in both it's axis and around the sun and it's even related to the amount of land oceans and continents have, and is represented by the relationships of just fucking inches to feet
>mfw Imperial also relates to the ancient tuning system music used to have for thousands of years
>mfw metric system relates to the modern tuning system which both happens to cause harmonic illnesses in the human biomorphic fields and rythms
>mfw at some point (((scientist))) of a certain tribe decided to create the metric system and modern tuning system in music for some fucking (((reason))) using (((modern secular science)))

Oh wow, isn't reading fucking centuries old books fun?

>> No.6175995

Okay, but can you be more specific where we can learn these?
>>6175841
>>but where do I learn.
>To learn the how, you need to go into architectural books of the renaissance.
>To learn the why you need to go into the geometry practiced during greek and egyptian times.
your sources are vague

>> No.6175999

>>6175995
there's a book called sacred geometry for artists, which goes into sacred geometry fun.

Also read a grammar of ornamentation, which has some really fun knowledge of ornamentation but only scratch some really basic ideas the sacred geometry book will go deep.

It would be a good idea to read the fourth books or architecture (read the 2013 epub edition) which teaches some of those ideas but applied to arhitecture.

Also, a nice understanding of plant taxonomy and plant anatomy (botany) would really help you have a schizo trip when you go to your park and start seeing that shit on plants.

>> No.6176008

>>6175999
Thanks, saved.

>> No.6176045

>>6175999
Mostly new age shit. No doubt some ideas were present in ancient times, but if compiled and explained by authors of much later generation, it takes on different framing and character. Been there done that. Even compilations by 19th century is affected by the spirit of their own time.
Do a craft other than fine art where you would actually employ the design elements and you will see how much intuition predominates in most samples. Even in painting the panel dimension having specific proportion has more to do with the proportion being easy to replicate thus making transfer easy.

>> No.6176049

>>6176045
I know, and I was expecting a fucking fun book on how to draw some geometry autism, not get fucking masonic knowledge.

>> No.6176072

the how is "live a fulfilling normalfag life". If you are normal, you will come up with normal things, like good composition. Society will never admit the benefits of being neurotypical.

>> No.6176081

>>6175841
How is art being made then?

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>>6175903
Stan Lee will teach you both how and why.

>> No.6176449

>>6176085
is that supposed to be good?

>> No.6176464

>>6176449
You should express your opinions clearly instead of mincing around like a fag.

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>>6175841
You forgot one key component of learning sacred geometry, friend.

>> No.6176468

>>6176464
what? you posted a picture that doesnt teach anything

>> No.6176476

Which board is more severely schizophrenic? /ic/ or /pol/ or /x/?

>> No.6176488

>>6176476
that list is too small

>> No.6176517

>>6175853
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LITERALLY HIM OMG OMG FR HOW COME TEHEHE
>>6175841
Why posting cringe, nigger?

>> No.6177166

The why is to make it pleasing for the eye

The how is how you make it pleasing for the eye
Where is your problem

>> No.6177169

>>6175841
you sound autistic as shit. stop overthinking things and just draw.

>> No.6177192

>>6175905
SHOO SHOO SCHIZO

>> No.6177227

I am even more schizo than op but don't go on rants spanning multiple threads.
As much as I disslike Loomis and other illustrators, I would not say they do nlt know how to compose. The compose in accordance to the ends of their works, as lame as these ends may be. If they composed in the same way as Leonardo or Perugino, it would not make sense for their subjects or overall style.

>> No.6177377

>>6175973
>THE CHINKS!! THE CHINKIES ARE IN EVERY BAIT THREAD!! THE CHINKOIDS ARE CONSPIRING TO RUIN MY BOARD EVERY SINGLE ONE EVERY POSTER I HATE IS A CHINK!!
meds