/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

https://www.notion.so/Krenz-Persp-Course-d6ccbb782cc743abb0b47d8105791420
Krenz Perspective Course in English

Don't forget to study fat old men.

really fucked up the placement of the eyes on the right, i think

Having issues with pictures I take for color studying purposes. It seems that more often then not the pictures get blurry when you zoom in no matter how sharp they looked before. Which makes the eyedropper tool unable to select the correct color properly. Long story short, how do I approach color studies? Is there a workaround for this issue maybe?

>>6163002
Thank you so much! I really like krenz's teaching style

>>6163160
unironically wish all the posts here weren't generic moe girls. At least christmas cakes and milfs should be attempted too, but male characters would be nice from time to time.

>>6163165
needs loomis and peter han

>>6163257
I don't know if other boards have brainrotted me, but I unironically can't tell if "need loomis" is a meme or a serious recommendation on this board

>>6163285
he needs loomis or any variation of loomis that teaches how to draw a head.

>>6163285
it means read the sticky.

>>6163285
it’s an easy way to critique construction without actually explaining what’s wrong. actual professionals don’t even use “loomis” in the way this board would tell you

Can anyone recommend a doujin artist with a level of draftsmanship and skill comparable to Inoue Kiyoshirou? I've been consistently disappointed in the general lack of quality of most doujins I've come across since discovering his work about 2 years ago, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough. This is for study purposes rather than personal taste, so I'm not really concerned about the specific content of the drawings.

>>6163371
i enjoy Endou Okito

>>6163371
kitou sakeru

>>6163302
>actual professionals don’t even use “loomis” in the way this board would tell you
the better your skill is the less construction ad guides you need

but since most on /ic/ arent at the skill level they can use little to no guidelines, the generic loomis and wtv the fuck else construction methods are the correct advice

idk why people want to go straight to draw with the same workflow as people 100x their skill level without first understanding even why they draw that way and if it has anything to do with years and years of mileage and experience

funny thing is people regent construction until japanese books show you the same construction, people reject master copies a lot of the time until the random jp youtuber releases a book that says you have to do master studies etc etc etc

>>6163426
"Loomis" just means breaking down what a face is by putting key landmarks where relevant with what you're going with.
An artist aiming for an anime style isn't going to read Loomis because Loomis landmarks aim at a completely different kind of style. You don't need "Loomis", what you need is just seeing how other anime artists use construction themselves. If some idiots want to scream "see I told you! you're doing Loomis" it's their own problem - what the person is doing is just constructing. Loomis doesn't own constructive drawing.

>>6163414
>>6163421

I've seen Okito's work before, it's very expressive and pretty. Sakeru's work also looks very impressive. I'll be studying these artists, thanks for recommendations.

>>6163371
Toumi Haruka

>>6163371
Dunno about technical prowess but Mikuni Mizuki never fail to get me going

>>6163458
His art looks kinda beg

>>6163371
Nishida (sugimoto-san)

>>6162989
Wow, my one off commission made it to the OP? That's kind of epic, means a lot.

I haven’t posted here in awhile. I’ve been grinding out pictures without posting the sketch and shit here for tweaks to try and work on speeding up my process

>>6163504
t.OP

>>6163699
I thought she had multiple nipples running down her chest. I’m so disappointed

>>6163002
i aint never seen a more gmi anon, god fucking speed to this one

>>6163699
what kind of artstyle toy aiming for? it looks still a bit western IMO,

Anyone has other recommendations for Japanese illustrators/vtubers like this one here?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWG-SpwlG1-61U8-tAU64LQ/videos

>>6163699
>>6163738

>>6163799
Why did you break her arm?

>>6163799
reminded me of Sill for a moment, i prefer pic related proportions than your pic btw

>>6163866
>>6163872
Shunin (ono no imoko) is one of my favorite hentai artists Cultured anon!
Idk, I tried to bend the arm inward so it wasn't as straight. I went a bit too far.

>>6162989
redraw old char

does Head and Hands go over the softness of female heads compared to males?

>>6162989
redraw old character

>>6163371
Ikuhana Niro, Seto Yuuki, Isutoshi, Ken Tsukikage and Kizaki, i think personally rise above the general quality of doujinshi artists, and are my primary inspiration.

>>6163984
monkey arm

>>6163984
Arms are the most obvious thing off but something else seems off too, maybe the perspective isn't consistent throughout the image.

/asg/ who are your favorite illustrators, the ones you can‘t really say anything negative about? I need to pick an artist for the naoki book and I just cant decide on ONE artist.

>>6163002
how do i access this?

>>6163781
I personally like yakimayuru her videos are very helpful and she doesnt beat around the bush too much like most japanese do

>>6164440
I don't know if one like that even exist anon. Here I am worrying if my pick is too advanced for my skill level

>>6163002
notion chad..

>>6164472
I have once heard you should always draw what you aim for so I want to go for the best pick I can find. But you do have a point. It is probably unrealistic to find one artist that does everything better than other artists. They all have their good and their bad points.
Which once again leads me to a decision problem that I feel I have to pick an artist with features that are more important to me than other features. I feel the solution is to focus on points that are generally most appreciated in this case.. like good facial features, livelyness of the illustration, good choices of color..
It is just really rough to focus on one artist honestly..

>>6164440
>the ones you can‘t really say anything negative about?
eh?
all illustrators have their flaws, even the ones that i really really like
at this point its pretty much all about personal preference on which style you're going to copy

what skill level is this?
recent official stuff from watamote, it looks really off to me

>>6164531
/mid/beg /high/beg at best. The hands look alright but everything else is trash. the feet are ridiculous to the point I'm asking myself is not on purpose but for the target audience I think they care more about the character and not the art.

Watamote is just the lucky stars for the early 30 freaks trying to relieve the days where everything didn't sucked that is just the star wars for the freaks in their early 40's, but watamote is much more for the retards in their mid 20's having a early life crisis feeling emotionally secure and not nostalgia junkies chasing the past. So yeah, any imbecile knows that the art could be dog shit or the greatest thing ever and would make much a difference.

>>6164482
What gives you the hubris to be so critical when you cant even draw?

>>6163002
little help
please

>>6164542
ouch yeah these gave me reason to worry. have been drawing so much fanart of tomoko I understand why I've stagnated.
watamote was also the reason I started drawing. do you know of a better artist which has a similar style, that I can study?

>>6164576
that's what happens when someone leak a private link
you had your chance to save, now is gone....

all the krenz courses translated to english and NOBODY SAVED, you guys don't deserve....

>>6164631
literally had a glance at it but it was no more than basic things you see in any other course LOL stop reading chink if you are not chink unless you studied chink. End of story.

>>6163165
no nigger, you fucked up everything, there is nothing in that image that is not fucked
spend hours, not minutes, on your sketches, you are not at the skill level where you can draw anything quickly

>>6163002

>>6163002
anyone managed to save this?

>>6164440
You should chose not good artist but one whose art you really like. Post a list of you favorite artists at least. Or choose Sora from Silent Square lol.
>>6164482
>They all have their good and their bad points.
This anon right.

>>6164631
I mean I was planning to look into it in a few days. No one mentioned that the links would be down almost immediately on that website. Big shame actually.

dont worry guys I saved krenz Tbchoi and some others in long png screencaps, will upload in a bit

>>6164719
>png
they use some gifs too...
sad...

>>6164722
ah fuck it, not uploading then..

>>6164631
It was just obnoxious dialogue transcripts with a few cropped screenshots. You would be better served by a real book or course

>>6163239
Shitposting aside on my part, I agree that cakes and milfs should be practiced along with male characters whether they be fat ugly bastards or rape vampire bishounen types. Well there is a myriad of character looks and designs out there, so it is kind of nice to at least practice character designs that looks weird or not aesthetically pleasing.

>>6163893
I think it looks cute, and your overall composition has improved.

>>6163239
>>6164736
I've only drawn fan art for videogame males that I enjoy. Otherwise most anime males are generic compared to female character designs.

any good book or course for anime hair?

>>6164661
how do i draw slower, anon?

>>6164725
upload it anyway or else...

>>6163239
>>6164736
>>6164755
/asg/ male edition when?

how do i make her look at him?

>>6163371
kinku

Can the person that managed to grab the Krenz stuff when it was up please pass it on?

rip notion anon
looks like a good note taking site tho, anyone have suggestions for alternatives?

>>6164869
It already exists. >>6150615

>>6162516
anon you share a new link? plsssss

>>6165049
I'm sad, it's been so long since he's done a full book. now he only does illustrations.

>>6165132
at least he's drawing again, for a long time he went MIA and I thought he retired.

>>6163371
unironically Uno Makoto
https://e-hentai.org/g/2109597/44e67560f5/

>>6165154
looks repulsive

I'm pretty new to drawing anime style. For science, give me a generic waifu to draw.

how can i improve this. want to give it more depth and dynamism

>>6165235
A background and colors from the background on the character. From light or whatever

>>6165235
maybe just a shadow behind the character will do the job

>>6165154
I wish there was a print collection like that of eo58's streams

>>6165271
fucking hate how eo58 doesnt save the vods to the streams

>>6165235
>depth dynamism
>girl just standing there
you kind of have to make a new drawing

How did I do?

>>6165330
Esdeath anon..?

>>6165335
Sorry but no, I wish kek

>>6165235
what brushes do you use?

>>6165335
>>6165330
My heart skipped for a moment, I thought it was fucking him

>>6165347
i would kill myself if Esdeathfag improved and i didn't

>>6165348
I was overwhelmed with joy, the duality of /ic/ kek

>>6164456
>>6164576
>>6164625
>>6164663
>>6164679
https://paste.lurkmore.com/abaa2d

drop-downs don't work. some images gone.

>>6165562
F

>>6165562
it was translated to english? FUCK, i recently discovered krenz's simplication of shapes and wanted to know more about how he practice figure drawing, is it really gone?

if someone have acess to the courses, you dont need to share the link
download the page and share the html

>>6165648
yep
not only the perspective course but also the composition course and digital painting

>>6163239

>>6163239
have a solider
Have to give props to hidari , this painterly method takes for fucking ever
i cant even fix stuff easily . maybe im missing something

>>6165335
I'm going to make a thread saying it was him and screencap all the cope and seethe

>>6165796
kek
do it

>>6165562
Thanks. Sometimes I love this place

Do you gaussian blur your linework? Do Japanese artists do it?
After googling, i see western artists doing it, but dont know if i do it it’ll stop me from drawing authentic looking anime art.

>>6165823
never seen it from a jap artist

>>6162989
>literally, popping out great art every day.
No wonder he is so popular. Fucking kneel

>>6165823
I hate that no blur filter effect works in csp beyond a certain resolution. And I always draw in 8000x8000 or more

I tried rendering in one of my heads

cirt?>>6166033
i suck at armour

>>6164625
>>6164576
subu is a gigantic faggot
thanks a lot you autistic idiot, I had a laugh at your convo with the owner and the other guy in lascord

How do I come up with my own eye style? I can copy mostly fine but just suck when I try my own. Should I just keep studying a bunch of other artists' styles and hope a bunch of techniques stick with me?

>>6166090

who's the owner?

>>6164576
>>6164631
>>6165078
>>6165095
>>6165654
https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

>>6166161

>>6166161
Can't save this shit with either wget or any other program, fucking notion a shit

>>6166161
absolutely based

Dont a retard and save all the archives this time

>>6166161
As a chink who went through all of Krenz courses in Chinese i can confirm that whatever is in the notes is pretty accurate to what he teaches

>>6166183
first ctrl alt t, to expand all, then "save page WE" on chrome addon, it works,
or you can press print, than save to pdf without margins and headers if you dont care for animated gifs.

>>6166387
>first ctrl alt t, to expand all
YOOOOOO
thanks anon
you saved a lot of time

>>6166161
thanks, anon

>>6166161
>>6166161
thanks anon
which lesson is the best one to start?

>>6166511
perspective course

Do you fuckers ever draw non-femboy males? Like a real, bonafide guy?

>>6166549
no, im not gay

>>6166549
Faggot threads are elsewhere.

>>6164531
Why is this faggot cross-posting this?

>>6166183
Good luck, been using wget, httptracker, and even a full page screenshot and it won't get it. Hmm

>>6166598
>>6166387
>"save page WE" on chrome addon, it works,

>>6166599
For all of them? On things like the rhythm week it keeps telling me '15 of 172 resources could not be captured.'

>>6166611
its wonky as hell, fiddle with the settings and try again, eventually it saves more and more, after every try. majority of pages dont give error, and on those whith errors its usually just a few images if you try enough times. I'll be saving also pdfs which saves everything, but cant have animated gifs, and saving html page in normal way in firefox, which doesnt even works but gives you a folder with all images from page including animated gifs

why are eyelashes so hard to get right

>>6166387
Anyone able to save the rhythm course without getting errors?

>>6166618
It saves a html and not the folder of images. Inspecting the saved page it seems like it's turning the images into base64 links. So the issue is, once it's private again are these images going to be broken? If so we need a better archival method.

>>6166639
I unplugged internet and checked, it loads fine. Images are embeded in this html file, some lessons generated 250mb file for me

did anyone managed to download krenz persp course week 5 succesfully with save page WE? i get 7 non-loaded resources and if i change the settings it keeps donwloading forever,i had no problems with the others weeks

>>6166670
same

>>6166670
I was finally able to grab it and all the other pages with the same extension but on Firefox, and increasing 'max resource size' to 100. The Chrome one always threw errors.

>>6166703
>max resource size' to 100
how?

>>6166716
Change this.

are anons compiling the krenz stuff?

>>6166703
great, too bad Im mostly done on chrome, and tought Im just going to have to live with some missing pictures,
I hope youre going to upload it anon, because Id rather shit in my mouth than do all this again xd

>>6166703
thanks anon, that worked (600mb btw)

>>6165235

>>6166564
>>6166566
Well at least draw different bodytypes, it's always sticcs here. Gimme thicc ara ara types.

We have been wrong bros, totally wasting time lmao.
You can actually save that page in firefox, in normal way, then just remove fucking .js files from the folder and it reads normally with all images, animated gifs. Unplugged internet to make sure, it loads as it should. I'll try to save it all that way and later to convert those gifs to webms and edit html so it reads those webms instead of gifs. Should take FRACTION of space that way.

>>6166978
hey you win some you lose some lmao, thanks for the effort though!

>>6166978
so I converted gifs to webm, and used notepad to change extensions from .gif to .webm
now the animated webm dont display as you see here, but when you right click this empty box and select open in new tab, they play fine. I dont know much about web coding,
how I can modify this bit of html file so they display normally?

>>6166978
Why won't wget or httptrack mirror it though? That's what I don't understand, I get some default page of that site that doesn't work when I try and it's irritating to not know why.

>>6167064
I realized it doesnt save page when you click on accept cookies, it saves few kilobytes html. When you remove cookies, and save again, it saves few hundred kilobytes html, that can be opened when you remove those 2 .js files from folder
what does it mean, I dont really know,
still trying to figure out how to make it reead webms instead of those 50mb gifs

>>6166719
I still get non-loaded resources even with firefox and resource limit set to 100Mb

>>6167195
did you increase "Maximum time for loading a resource (secs)" too? mine was at 120

>>6167195
set to 800MB
because Krenz perspective week 5 is 400MB

>>6167264
>>6167281
Thanks, I ended up just doing this >>6166978, the files are massive though

>>6167064
Because this is page based on "client-side rendering", which means that the server doesn't respond to your HTTP request with HTML content, but with a HTML stub containing only a reference to a JS program that the browser later executes to load parts of the HTML on demand.
httrack and wget work by requesting a URL, saving the HTTP response, searching it for links, and repeating the process on the links. They don't execute scripts. So when you ask them to mirror a client-side page, they will do a request, get a bare page with in response, save the bare page and exit. They just fundamentally don't work with this kind of pages.
There's no general way to mirror client-side pages, since their content depends too much on user interaction. What you are forced to do is to open them in a browser, click everything you need to get the HTML to a desired state (where the content you want to save is loaded; in the case of those notion pages you at least want to expand dropdowns with ctrl+alt+t), save the prepared page via the browser menu, and remove the JS. (Otherwise there's a high chance it'll get confused and break the page when you open it offline, since the program was never prepared for that). The result won't have any dynamic functionality, but it should at least have the same content as it did when you saved it.
This is what >>6166978 figured out.

>>6166978
for how is using this method, sometimes the download will fail, you just need to restart firefox

>>6166161
I am in despair at all the stuff that I have to learn

>>6167372
not a problem if you're simply talented for it

>>6167306
Some pages still won't load even after deleting the js files, week 6 persp for example is just a blank page

>>6167381
>>6166387
>first ctrl alt t, to expand all
then you save the page

>>6167384
kek, it was expanding it automatically for me and tripped me into thinking something was helping me, had to collapse and expand everything again to fix the issue

>>6166161
holy shit thank so much anon

>>6166033
>>6166039
yeah the armor is really fucking bad. in general it should have volume so it doesn't just look painted on a character, and try to make the design flow instead of having a few random kneecaps and shit. head is also a flat travesty. look at your favorite armor and see how they do it.
cute girl though

>>6166161
Are the 2021 updated courses straight upgrades to the other same courses listed underneath them?

Done...
I will upload everything tomorrow(5GB)
GN!

Do you guys know of any good, fairly long, videos on drawing in the anime style, that you don't necessarily have to look at, but merely listen to? I've seen videos for games and studying that kind of tell you good ways of absorbing information and then applying it. I suppose it doesn't have to be /asg/ specific, but this would be my preferred style. I might be asking too much, considering how visual this field is.

I've gone through a few stickies, but none of them really felt like they gave me what I wanted.

>>6167584
based

>>6167584
rest well anon

>>6167584
godspeed, anon

>>6166161
if america or other countries had this kind of education instead of having to pick between photobashing or cartoons then i swear to god asian genes wouldn't have become such a meme
ive been saying for so long that asian genes arent real its just that they actually teach shit. this shit is insane, all the answers back to back to back, thank you anon

>>6167694
Put on a trip so we can track your progress and prove that theory

>>6167642
>videos on drawing in the anime style, that you don't necessarily have to look at

>>6166161
There is a lot of information in this, where should a beg start?

>>6167769
Yeah, the type of thing I'm thinking about likely wouldn't be artstyle specific, just fundamental specific. It's hard to describe the type of thing I'm thinking of without linking something unrelated.

>>6167642
>Do you guys know of any good, fairly long, videos on drawing in the anime style
anon
most of these videos have a demo so that the viewers would get the overall point of the lesson

I have saved everything from krenz files, and it around 6GB, it would take less than 1/10 of that with gifs converted to webms, unfortunately I would need some kind of automated script to edit html files, if anyone of you know some scripting I posted request here when I explained what needs to be done
>>>/wsr/1235453

>>6167694

>>6167694
LMAO
you (d)weebs are legitimately mentally broken

i'm trying to make her look threatening, but something looks off, i don't know what

>>6167694
its fine if they dont wanna believe it

Is there another example of the CSI method besides Krenz's video? I'm a retard that didn't get his explanation

Redpill me on Krenz

>>6168226
its overrated shit for weaboos

>>6168224
check Krenz Rhythm Course

>>6168233
krenz teaches loomis, krenz a chad for making ngmi weebs who refuse fundies seethe

>>6168245
he also reccomends hampton, so it's even more funny how much weebs deny that fundies are needed

>>6168248
Oh fundies are absolutely needed it's mostly that loomis fags are unbearable retards pushing their shit onto everyone.
Sure his books are decent but can you shut up about them for even one minute? Apparently not.

>>6168064
need more shadows on the bangs area
and make the eye/pupil crazier

>>6168064
She looks CUTE and ADORBZ

sssh, elf girl is sleeping

>>6168064
maybe smaller pupils?

>>6167894
wish i could help but im dumb as fuck

Which artists, in your opinion, draw the best or most appealing faces? What do you like about them?

>>6168510
you yoshinari, his mastery over shape language is the subject of awe.

Krenz Courses EN VERSION
gofile.io/d/00pNai

>>6168519
i kneel

>>6168519
this is so exciting, i can FINALLY start
gonna binge some utube first then forget about it

>>6168519
I FUCKING KNEEL

>>6168519
this has a password?

>>6168519
what the FUCK is the password?

>>6168519
based af thank you very very much anon

>>6168519
>all those dumb drop-downs are already extended
fucking A

>>6168592
Hint
Our Fellow Friend Toxxo

welp what a waste of time

>>6168622
???

What the hecks the password

>>6167894
>>6168519
>5.0 GB
Did you give up on the gif conversion after all?

>>6168625
2 different anons, Im still converting those gifs, will post tommorow

>>6168624
oh nevermind figured it out lmao, it's the filename on my picture

You guys are retarded...cant even read the rar description...
Imagine not knowing who Toxxo is LOL
>>6168519
TY <3

Can someone help me with the face? I like the body and hair but something about the face I don’t like. She’s supposed to look sly like a fox

>>6168670
>that nose
kek
here some references
>[宇宙船庄司号 (庄司二号)] たっくんと鬼のお姉さん
https://exhentai.org/g/1463227/b2ca63c4c3/
>[宇宙船庄司号 (庄司二号)] たっくんと狐のお姉さん
https://exhentai.org/g/1552308/52229d5383/

>>6168737
>uuuuugghhh im coooooooooomingg

>>6168737
Are these things showing nothing for anyone else?

>>6168808
search " how to acess sadpanda"
or just use hitomi

So unmotivated to draw recently, glad I was able to draw something today though.

>>6168670
what isnt that digital? why didnt you just take a screenshot?

>>6168852
At work with no wifi, I had to take a pic on my phone and use data

have a good observation skill is a prerequisite to take the courses.

>>6168910
lol copying

>>6168519
uhh can we get another link?

what kind of brush is used for these lights and their 'glow'? I cant get any of my brushes to match the opacity or size changes

>>6169026

>>6163893
So how do you do your shading? I'm like brand new to digital art and i'm still learning my brushes, etc.

>>6169026
works on SAI2 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>6169026
It's just literal blobs you can do with most brushes anon.

Water is tough as hell holy shit

>>6168519
I deleted the JS files, all I'm getting is a red crayon

>>6169186
screenshot

>>6166161
I hope you don't mind that I went through and saved some of the other courses you had notes for other than just Krenz. Your notes are a goldmine @_@

>>6169181
water is only thing I like about it

>>6169188

>>6169197
which course/week?

>>6169188
>>6169197
I think I was just being dumb, I got it. Opened the wrong bit.

>>6169181
The girl being so affixed to a profile position contrasts weirdly with the water and the globe(?) appearing 3D. At first, I wasn't sure what I was looking at. I'm still entirely sure in fact.

I would suggest looking into how artists you like do profile pieces, and why it works vs. why when it doesn't.

GOFILE OP HERE
The perspective week 6 is missing some imgs, i will upload tomorrow the week 6 with the missing imgs.
I dont have time to check everything, so you guys can do that for me and tell if something is missing, i can reup the week.

>>6169195
>>6169210
Ye, mostly an exercise trying to get the water right, don't really know why I bothered adding everything else in. Guess I should either flatten it all or spin the girl a bit next time I try something like this. Thanks anons.

vilppu >>>>>> loomis

>>6168519
>>6169003
nvm im dumb
thanks anon

>>6166124
Don't think of it. Forcing it will make you look westoid.

this is
color
color new
perspective
rythm
rythm new

courses with gif and png converted to mp4 and jpg for smaller size, the rest of notes are around 200mb so im not sure if im going to be converting them at all, or just pack and upload later.
https://gofile.io/d/YJOWFQ

>>6169464
pass is
>pyw

>>6169464
big thanks to anon for writing python script to convert htmls

>>6168519
i dogeza

>>6168519
>>6169464
thanks, anon(s)(?)
by the way, are those like the same files? or just added content?

>>6168519
Bros what's the password...

>>6169606
nvm i'm retarded
thanks bros

>>6169464
Nice work, anon. But you have slightly messed up the image conversion. There were some jpgs in the original files. Your automation didn't skipped the pngs which had a jpg with a similar name (e.g. something_006.png and something_006.jpg), but it still rewrote the name inside the html (from png to jpg). So wherever there was an png jpg pair with the same index, the link supposed to point at the converted version of the first image is pointing to the second image. See example in picrel.

>>6169612
> Your automation didn't skipped the pngs
I meant "your automation skipped the pngs"

>>6169612
youre right, i will fix it

>>6169616
oh well, it requires some more tinkering with the script, and that can take long time as Im really new to this,
https://gofile.io/d/rolIcQ
here is the same courses, with just gifs converted to mp4, PNG are left as they were, its 1,5gb

>>6165703
Nice one!

>>6166090
Hey, at least the other guy
>>6166161
managed to save the lessons from it. Hell, there's stuff on there from courses I didnt even know existed or studied. I'm moreso OK with the outcome that happened here, I wanted to try and give back to /ic/ the best I could.
>the other guy i lascord
That guy/girl is a bit of a drama queen and likes to pretend they're better than everybody, don't pay too much attention to what they say lol

>>6168519
Me be stoopid, what's the pass??

>>6169771
read the thread, anon

First time drawing in six months. No ref.

>>6169777
I did, Toxxo doesn't work.

>>6169801
anon...>>6168630

>>6169801
What a cutie

>>6169822
Oh ty

Post OCs so I can draw them

>>6168631
>You MUST know my favorite e-celebs
Nobody gives a fuck. Kys

>>6166161
sir i kneel thanks for this.
these will be my next go-to after i finish Brent Eviston and other dry fundies.

wait uh dumb ass question but (what if) these notions stuff got taken down, will these file that is alr downloaded still be visible??>>6168519

idk how notion works first time hearing abt it.

>>6168519
ty

https://krita-artists.org/t/problems-with-the-loomis-methods/38528

Thoughts on this?

remember

>>6170317
no

>>6168630
Is this a taboo name here or something?

>>6166161
based

>>6168519
OP here
Some images were missing
Perspective Course
Week 6-7
Rhythm Course
Week 3-5-7-8

https://gofile.io/d/QhLrDV (the pass is the same)
just replace the files

>>6170581
Looks like they should have not only high butt but a more bulging belly...

who's tonyo?

>>6170678
thanks for ur efforts

>>6170678
thanks

anons how are you approaching that krenz stuff? for example in perspective do you draw alongside or just do the homeworks? read somewhere that you have to focus in the theory (krenz's lecture) and i suppose you get to practice in those homeworks

I tried replicating the rendering of the dress, I was looking at the reference the entire time, tomorrow I'll attempt to do it again without the reference in sight

>>6170850
first i skim over the whole thing to get the general gist of it-> do the same thing Krenz do -> do the same thing again but without looking at the monitor/ref -> check back for errors and do it again (again lol) but this time noting things down here and there -> move to the next section or apply the same method but try to draw my own thing.

rinse and repeat.

>>6170850
there's literally a charpter called "studying attitude" and it says everything you need to know, perspective is the first step

Is Krentz a good replacement for perspective made easy or should I start with that one and then do Krenz?
>>6170678
bless you i kneel

>>6170850
https://youtu.be/0BuQGfUEsnY

>>6170884
i hate ching chong music

>>6170883
you should read the book first. overall its better to know more than less.

>>6168808
i hate sadpanda, i managed to get it and then out of nowhere it stopped working again

>>6170888
thanks, you are right i just heard the book wasn't ''complete'' so I though Krenz covered the basics and more

>>6170878
>>6170882
thanks i looked at perspective first, havent checked those out yet
>>6170884
thanks this is helpfull, i think i saw a post containing some video translation script, does anyone have a link? it maybe not accurate but i think i will be even better

>>6170884
>https://youtu.be/0BuQGfUEsnY
Uhh I am familiar with CSP but I don't think I recognize the grid he's using in the start of that.. Anyone got a clue?

>>6170899
he is using photoshop anon...

>>6170902
Well that explains it and now I feel stupid. Saw the color-wheel, colors of the app, and the open folders and it just made me think CSP x.x

>>6170678
is this the completed ones ?

>>6170945
>is this the completed ones ?
no
>>6168519
this is the 'complete version" but some files were missing, so i upload
>>6170678
lets the first link is part 1 and 2nd part 2

>>6170678
Thank you again anon

>>6170899
https://streamable.com/dmxa8t

Krenz Perspective Student Demos
https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E3%80%90K%E5%A4%A7%E3%80%91%E9%80%8F%E8%A7%86

https://youtu.be/UuGc8KsXi0Q

>>6170292
it's just some girl who cant figure out the loomis method
what's your point?

>>6162989
Is this the power of focus points being where they are? I can't help but detail and render everything in a drawing and waste hours upon hours doing it. Is it literally just X distance from the focus point where you can just give up on detail?

>>6170899
learn perspective

>>6168670

>>6171238
cute

>>6168519
i have problems open the files... when i click on literally anything the lesson show up but just for a few secs , then the website turns blank ??? help please ty

>>6170872
Impressive

>>6171238
You trimmed it which is good but I can't help but feel the shoulders are messed. Left one from our view.
Also the lineart is a bit overwhelming which is a style I suppose but it takes away from the picture. Maybe tilt the body a bit to add dynamic as well. Rendering seems fine-ish.

>>6170872
do you have a timelapse?

>>6171245
read the txt

The translation for the Saito book is weird.

Please critique this line art practice piece, just tear it to pieces and humiliate me, I want to know why she looks like she just died.

>>6171205
Nothing I was just waiting for someone to disprove it.

>>6171414
Yeah I glanced at it and it felt odd.
Anyone has the original Japanese version please? It's not on panda.

>>6171488
Actually draw the neck

>>6171488
she's alive now

what csp brushes do jp artists use for basic linework? default csp brushes seem to not really replicate what i tend to see.

>>6172001
Mostly g-pen, sometimes with texture.

>>6171488
personally I like this Kokoro. Could use some more detail in the line variation though.

>>6172039
looks way better wtf

>>6172039
Nice lines. Where did you learn?

>>6172006
Been a while since I've seen any illustrator use gpen for lineart honestly, quit giving wrong advice.

>>6162989
how big do anons draw for studies? just attempted a face at the bottom of a page and now realize i can’t analyze my work very well

>>6172107
Lol? Pretty much any manga oriented artist uses gpen.

>>6171252
thanks
>>6171370
no but I'll record one next time

>>6172039
How do you practice line variation? I know it's one of my weak points but can't wrap my head around it

>>6170981
good shit might come in handy

LINEART
>G-pen Default
Kichirock/キチロク, Kei Mochizuki/望月, Takeda Hiromitsu/武田弘光, Nanahara, Fuyuki/七原冬雪, Kyockcho/きょくちょ, Saemon/サエモン and Exabyte.

>Meganei/メガねぃ
ペン入れ 1mm 13HD(I think the brush come with the Cintiq13HD, dunno)

>Yamanokami/やまのかみ
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1708873

>Hayabusa/Vert_320
Oil paint flat brush(Thick paint / India ink)
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

Eno/Enokiya
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1774432

>Herio/ヘリを
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1687935

>Mapping Pen
Jagayamatarawo/じゃが山たらヲ, 郁(IKU) , Tem10, Arimura Daikon/有村大根, Blue_GK, Kurosu Gatari/黒巣ガタリ
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

>obmas/おぶます
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1728670

>Satou Kuuki/左藤空気
Real G-pen
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

>Shouji Nigou 庄司二号
Rough(Thick paint / India ink)
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

>eightman/えいとまん
G-Las Pen(G-Las Pen)
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1888632

>Haimura Kiyotaka/はいむら
Darker Pencil
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1842027

>Hiroya/広弥
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1774432

>Ame Arare/雨あられ
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1364761

ANON I NEED YOUR HELP
Toosaka Asagi/遠坂あさぎ shared the brush she uses for the lineart last year, but she removed from csp last month...
>線画用鉛筆風ブラシ
>100K downloads
https://web.archive.org/web/20210614111154/https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1692270
Does anyone have the brush? PLS!!

>>6172360
>>6172103
I mostly learned myself through doing a lot of freelance work, but I think I got a lot out of Naoki Saito's videos on making good linework.
One thing I took away was that it was actually OK to not draw all your lines in the longest stroke possible.

It's easier to determine where the line variation when the whole drawing is finished, so ideally you should start with a thin size to your line and very light.

Instead of flicking from intense pressure to thin to generate the line thicknesses, you can "build up" the line by working with the same light touch you had before, but making sure to feather the lines into and on top of each other to darken and thicken it in places. Where those places are is best explained by Naoki's video.
Another thing is that dynamic lineart always has variation in not just size, but texture and/or opacity. For that Kokoro and the drawing I drew in the OP thumbnail I used the Turnip Pen in CSP and ticked the box for Opacity Pressure as well.
You also want to make sure your tablet pressure curves are set in such a way where you can press lightly and get very thin lines and maintain a constant pressure, as well as go to full pressure without having too press too hard.

If anyone has some feedback, I would love to hear it.

What skill level for drawing anime art do I need to be at to be able to make money from commissions? It doesn't matter how much, just enough to get the ball rolling at least. I would draw anything as well as long as its not too obscene.

>>6168834

>>6172650
Hahahahah thanks for the redline broski

>>6172256
Yeah, manga maybe.
I said illustrator though didn‘t I.

>>6172697
>>6172460
>>G-pen Default
>Kichirock/キチロク, Kei Mochizuki/望月, Takeda Hiromitsu/武田弘光, Nanahara Fuyuki/七原冬雪, Kyockcho/きょくちょ, Saemon/サエモン and Exabyte.
>Nanahara Fuyuki/七原冬雪
https://twitter.com/fuyuki007/status/1454656308271931399
the brush doesnt really matter, it's all about dexterity

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/6595

WIP

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>>6172848
>>6172848
>>6172848

>>6172595
did you trace the hands?

>>6172460
Thank you for the info, brush does matter if it's a style that you are used to.