/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

please tell me how I fucked up in my daily doodles, I don't have an eye for it yet. I'm super /beg/ and pushing myself to get out of my comfort zone

>>6157238

weegee

What program should I use if I'm a complete beg with a screen less tablet?

Next time...
>>6157248
Krita.

>>6157249
Is there any advantage with using Photoshop? I could just pirate it if needed

Rate pls

>>6157255
Perspective is a bit wonky but composition saves it. (not the camera perspective itself, that's good, more just a few objects feel off, like the cross not being vertical or the facade of the church not being symetrical). I like the colors and atention to detail. Pretty GMI

>>6157254
Everyone uses photoshop, so it's easier to find tutorials and shit.

>>6157238
If it's a doodle, then I don't see ampoint in giving it critique. Doodles are just ways to try different things out. If you want to develop a critical eye towards your work, try turning your work upside down and holding it at arm's length. Seeing it from an unfaniliar angle can sometimes reveal things you might have overlooked.

>>6157244
Isn't the character on the right that from that Dutch animation? I forget what's called

Trying some concept/character type stuff, any thoughts?

I need to put more thought into the environment more. I think I did a decent job faking it just with lighting.

>>6157270
I said “doodle” but I guess that’s not the proper term. I just don’t consider my stuff “work” yet so I call them doodles and such because it feels more apt. Sorry. And interesting, I had never thought of doing that. I’ll try that.

>>6157276
Her tits seem too close together on her chest, not by a lot, just a little

>>6157272
Yes it's mymy from ongezellig

Where's that anon that was doing Loomis exercises daily, I wanna see them progress

>>6157275
It's not much of a costume, is it? I'm also curious how the wrist mounted mini-crossbows would work.

Hmmmm,mmmeeee

I followed along with Angel Ganev's portrait tutorials but I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing

Am I the worst artist insofar?

Pls tell me I am not chris channing again

I am pretty much tired of grinding loomis, proko and see no results

>>6157347
Your darks aren't dark enough. Make sure your construction is correct before adding value. Don't rush, and make frequent checks with your reference. Keep practicing!

>>6157232

How can I improve my watercoloring skills?
Doing studies of Exupery so far cause it's simple.

>>6157360

Tried to translate the skills to a larger watercolor study (tried to stylize it off of one of Ishida Sui's pics).

Exupery ones, being simpler, are better evidently. Pardon whatever anatomy/whatever else I might've botched. Didn't have the confidence to shade with darker tones so I went for a more muted piece. Should've gone for a G-Pen or fineliner as well.

Still perusing Hampton's book so maybe I'll get a good inkling on how to do light/contrast/shadowy stuff in there.

>>6157334
Haha that’s fair, I should probably try to craft more of a story, just thought I’d try to give defining features like the coat and crossbows. But yer right, seems like it would be tough to get the weapons to work without some bullshittery or magic, something to chew on. Thanks anon!

drawing

Very much starting out. I really should still be drawing boxes, but I wanted to see if I could make a female torso/hip. I have yet to do any serious anatomy studying, so I only have very basic ideas of stuff like the ribcage. Is there a way to make this look more feminine? Is there something about the torso height relative to where it connects to the hip? I feel like this could equally as likely be a thin male.

>>6157435
>I have yet to do any serious anatomy studying
Do this

>>6157386

>>6157432
holy christ

I'm close to finishing this please ignore the fetishy coomer shit. The right ankle seems out of alignment, how should I draw it to be more in line with the calf or is it not that bad? Also I'm not sure how to go about doing the heel from this angle, I didn't have a reference for this one so most of it is just trial and error.

Some fanart I’m doing, is there anything to improve so far? How does it look? Ref on the right obviously

For a commission.

>>6157590
I commend you even for trying this pose, I know few artists who could pull it off without any reference or anything, even me on this case because I myself not sure how well I did, I still wanted to try it. But you just not there yet, draw more a few primitives on perspective, more cylinders and cubes until you get a better understanding of how they are supposed to look and use in your construction. But I like the lineweight and you tell well a story using just a short illustration.

>>6157680
Yours looks good to me, and yeah It might have been a bit ambitious for my skill level. Thanks for the advice! I'll probably hit a bunch of rough sketches next. I really want to get good at perspective shots, they're so interesting but so difficult

>>6157693
You are in the right path, study perspective early and you have to worry about it later on. If you want to wow normalfags and build good interesting scenes without having to do much perspective is the answer.

I suppose is good you have this sort of fetish, good fuel for you to git gud.

>>6157432
C-care to explain, anon?

If the ony critique you get is that you're starved for sex that means...

What is the best way to learn perspective? Drawing 250 boxes mindlessly is not working.

>>6157752
Learn about the perspective guides. How to build them and how to use them properly, start with one point, two points and finally three pointing when you have your shit together.

Do enough and you won't need the guides as much, but still is useful. I would say that building them properly is the hardest part if you are doing it traditional, what I would recommend even if you are work digitally. If you insist in doing digitally just look a tutorial online, is one minute set up.

Anything else is pretty self explanatory, just follow the guides and draw the boxes, add detail to the boxes. If you want anything more interesting them simply boxes try drawing some minecraft landscape, really is the ultimate perspective box challenge.

>>6157752
>Drawing 250 boxes mindlessly is not working.
you're supposed to draw the boxes mindfully

>>6157432
Wow...

I have pic rel and I use Krita but I'm not good at drawing. How do I get good? And should I buy a drawing tablet with a screen?

>>6157249
The sketch was 50x better. You're missing a lot of contrast, colour, and form

>>6157812
Ofc.
You get better with better devices, it's obviously

>>6157826
I know, godddamn it. I fucking know.

whats a good course on perspective?

>>6157249
>>6157255
>>6157273
>>6157275
beautiful work.

>>6157275
I think I recognise your lines and I already asked you for your blog, but I'll ask again.

I just started drawing and I'm using Krita. When I draw lines the lines start getting thicker. How do I keep them the same size?

>>6157866
Deactivate the pen pressure.

>>6157249

Your painting skills are very inferior to your drawing skills.

>>6157848
<3

I'm trying to learn painting people so any advice would be helpful

>>6157907

Been trying to learn some gun silhouette concept sketch stuff.

>>6157812
An artist doesn't blame his own tools. That tablet should be good enough for drawing up to a decent level, you're not gonna get good just because you bought a more expensive tablet.

>>6157752

I'm not the guy to talk about this considering my giant thick chick drawing was off point but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyway. the way I try to visualize things is the drawing is broken up into pieces. Drawing circles in segmented parts to visualize how they appear in space is a good way to get an eye for perspective. Look at really funky perspective shots and try to recreate the base by breaking down it's elements. If you have a picture of a hand reaching out against the camera recreate it by assigning a color for each limb and fitting the piece together by layering circles until you have an image with basic perspective

Why is the arm and neck so weird?

>>6157986
The bottom shouldn't be covered completely at the end

>>6157986
it's misplaced and too short. also head too long

>>6157850
How to draw comics the marvel way has a good basic section on it

>>6157851
Appreciate it anon

>>6157853
Oh I thought I responded last time too, but I post on Twitter under the handle skyfishjelly. Appreciate the interest anon!

Kris

is it normal to set a screenless tablet on the lap?
just got intuos, first tablet
I don't have a desk. I recline on my bed. Seems pretty comfy...

>>6158051
No but whatever works

>>6157812
I learned to draw on a much older equivalent of this. You don’t need a screen tablet right now, all you need to get good is to keep drawing and observing.

>>6157907
Maybe start with painting something simpler. Like still a still life of something with fewer planes.

>>6157283
Good friends stick together. Like waffles.

Do I ink lines before coloring in with colored pencils or do I just draw everything in CP

Os this piece of shit fixable WITOUTH having to redrawing it completely? (By editing)

i tried drawing a dress

>>6158156
Scandalously short dress, there.

>>6158139
Move the mouth to be more under the nose. Remove the lines indicating where the legs meet the hips.

>>6158156
why would you be able to see the belly button through the dress?

>tfw cannot draw a satisfying head now
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Did I revert mentally or what?

is it dumb to do pencil stuff on tablet?

>>6158221
no, just study something else for a while and come back later.

>>6158226
no most of the beginner books you can do with a tablet or trad.

>>6158238
>no, just study something else for a while and come back later.
Thing is I'm drawing a specific artwork right now and I kinda cannot procrastinate on it.

>>6157943
these are nice

>>6158139
>not starting all over.
There is no use then, is fundamentally broken.

i feel stuck again, what do

Last thing I did before getting food-poisoning

>>6158284
figures starting to look pretty good, when I'm feeling stuck I usually try to break my routine and explore other things.

>>6157579
I'm very spooked by the quality of this skull

I'm not satisfied with this

>>6158300
that's really neat, i love how you managed the values, do you have the ref at hand?. I think i am going to take your advice, I will get a sketchbook and start doing some trad work, it's been a while

>>6158305
>i love how you managed the values
thanks, started getting sick while drawing it so I started rushing towards the end
>do you have the ref at hand?
it was posted on redditgetsdrawn, here you go anon
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditgetsdrawn/comments/vtabqs/this_is_my_girlfriend/

>>6158313
thank you! gonna keep grinding so i can someday reach your level

>>6158304
some where in between a short stack and chibi, I like the drawing

>>6158304
i like this a lot, good work anon

>>6158246
Get better ref, I guess.

>>6157432
Made this my wallpaper.
Based and gmi.

I finally managed to draw something despite the scorching heat. I'm completely naked (except for pantsu) and still sweating.

complete beginner looking for a tablet and I've narrowed my choices down to these three
HUION Q11K
XP-PEN Deco Pro
Wacom Intuos Medium
which one would be best for me to go for?

>>6158373
I have the Small version of that Wacom and it's really good imo.

>>6157232
>>6157232

What a coincidence I am working on a piece with mushrooms

Any advice on how to proceed further?

>>6158373
can't really speak for any of those specifically, but I own a intuos pro m and an xp-pen screen tablet because I wanted to try one without paying through the nose for it.
The intuos definitely still feels better but I can't tell if that's because the xp-pen is just a cheaper brand or because screen tablets in general feel a bit off.
They both get the job done tho.

A buddy of mine got into art recently and bought a huion, we had some problems getting the pressure sensitivity to work at first and he quickly left it behind in favor for pencil and sketchbook.
A lot of complete beginners have that problem initially, that they buy a tablet and then let it collect dust while they're leveling up traditionally, so it might be better just going for the cheapest of the three.

but if you have to get one I'd say in exactly the reverse order that you posted them.

>>6158410
yeah the more i read into it the more i think the wacom intuos might be the best one, but i keep reading that bigger tablets are better and that one is by far the smallest of the three

Where the fuck is the draw thread?

I did this study, any tips or feedback are appreciated. First time i spent more than 30min on one of these painting exercises.

>>6158417
I thought it was a pretty cool ref

>>6158415
>but i keep reading that bigger tablets are better and that one is by far the smallest of the three
there might be something to that, the ones I own have roughly the drawing area of regular printer paper while my friends huion was about half that and it definitely didn't feel great.
Still, theres people out there capable of making professional art with smaller tablets so it can't be that horrible right?

Idk what i am doing since i am learning to add shade.

How do i loosen my need for reference? Especially with how tricky shading can be?

Bruh

>>6157255
20th century avantgarde fags would be proud
perspective is quite shitty at parts, but the style imitates concept drawings of early modernists, it almost hurts my soul

Do I get better at drawing people by just drawing from imagination or do I have to study photos?
How can I draw crazy angles when there aren't references ? Do you have to master anatomy, perspective and then you can draw any pose by constructing your person by each body part, making sure it's in perspective and it's all connected and correct? That would be really hard

>mfw I realize that drawing from imagination as a /beg/ is an exercise in futility since you're most likely just cementing bad habits

well I did make this some week ago I think

drew this for a different thread
odd looking duck
but there's somethin about his eyes...
hypnotic...

>>6158566
You draw from reference and apply what you learn from studying reference to what you draw from imagination. Very few people are masters of drawing the human form, but a good drawing cannot be built without a firm understanding of anatomy and proportion. As far as drawing crazy angles goes, how often are you going to be called to do that? Worry about drawing the basic angles for now.

>>6158575
His eyes are almost entirely black!

>>6158575
>>6158587
I was going to delete and post in cbsg or something but looking through the thread I don't know if it really fits so idk lol I'll just leave it here

>>6158583
I just find crazy angles much more exciting, shame you have to be a pro to do it

I was experimenting with perspective then decided to ink it freehand (drew with pencil and ruler first). Is my tremor bad or does this look like something I could overcome with practice and focusing more? Seems like 1 out of 20 lines actually came out straight, it's frustrating.

All boxes have a height of 1cm.

>>6158610
This is why you ink with a ruler.

>>6158610
Learn the skill of ghosting lines and then draw with your elbow/shoulder in a quick stroke.

Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 34

Hats!

my friends, does anyone happen to have achmeds "Med's Map: Complete Edition" painting course ?

>>6158624
there it is I was waiting for your posts

new sketch
I need more consistency in coloring and lineart
too much experimentation in recent drawings

Sketching concepts for my boss
>>6158638
Pretty nice, just make her legs longer
>>6158569
Keep it up. Try to learn more facial anatomy from references so you can more easily draw it from imagination and know exactly what you're exaggerating
>>6158046
Mhm, Kris

>>6158566
You have to study photos (or live subjects), or learn anatomy directly from a book or teacher. If you just draw from imagination and you don't have incredible visual memory (as you get more experienced as an artist you eventually WILL have an incredible visual memory, as long as you keep progressing; it's something most people think of as innate but it is a skill that can be learned), all you're going to do is draw people wrong over and over. Basically exactly this >>6158568
>How can I draw crazy angles when there aren't references ?
Early on, composite references or combine references with something like a doll or mannequin (I dunno where you live but if you're in America every Walmart I've been to across the nation has sold cheap wooden artists' posing dolls, so they're very easy to get, and of course there are virtual versions), or do the pose yourself and photograph it.
>Do you have to master anatomy, perspective and then you can draw any pose by constructing your person by each body part, making sure it's in perspective and it's all connected and correct?
Yep, pretty much. Your anatomy doesn't actually have to be perfect, most people can't tell the difference as long as it's close enough, though having a better understanding will allow you to add more detail while maintaining verisimilitude, plus there are some things most people's eyes glance over without consciously noticing whether they're there or not but that look very pleasing, like the contours of the collarbome and the "hip dip" between the hipbone and thigh. But yeah, at least get an idea for the general physical form/shape, how joints deform when they bend and learn perspective and it's not too hard to draw most poses and angles from imagination. The hardest thing to learn is going to be foreshortening, because for whatever reason people's brains don't seem good at processing rounded objects in perspective.

why does this look like ASS. how do i get better at cute cartoony shit

>>6158663
is cute anon

Are the nibs on wacom pens supposed to wear out this fast? Got my first tablet (one by wacom) and the pen tip has already gotten kinda slanted after only like 4 hours. I get that it wears down but this feels really fast, and no I'm not pressing down on it like the hulk, I put about as much pressure on it as a regular pen.

>>6158686
yes

>>6158634
Thanks. Had work and family stuff going on, so I couldn't get to drawing for a bit today. And I'm still slow as hell.

Excited to move on to full, clothed figures after the hands & feet section, though I'm not sure how many of Loomis' examples I'll end up doing.

>>6158686
I haven't changed my wacom nib in 2 years

honk honk

>>6158663
That does not looks cartoony
Cartoony looks like hot garbage >>6158139

>>6158669
>>6158717
thank you anons. please give me constructive critique though

>>6158663
Tiny hands and pencil neck may have been intentional but are not inherently cute imo. Big eyes and low eyes are cute but that's too low. You shouldn't go lower than on a human baby and even that can be pushing it. I don't have my tablet handy right now or I'd just lasso them up into a better-looking position or something. Strictly for making it cute little things like this probably don't matter much (for this composition anyway, because they're less noticeable) but her legs are very different thicknesses and her collar is off-centre which also makes her neck look off-centre.

>>6158587
>hypnotic
Though they were pretty piercing blue/grey based on actual photos.

>>6158658
Well said

>>6158716
wonder if clapping those cheeks would make a honking sound

>>6158663
First off, I'm in the camp that thinks it doesn't look like ass. I suspect that you would think the same if somebody else had drawn the exact same thing and posted it. Second, you're asking for practical solutions to what is ultimately a subjective problem. Thin the eyebrows? Maybe don't draw the lower eyelashes? Don't give the figure doll hands? Don't cut the legs off above the knees and just leave the linework open? This is all shit I would do, but I wouldn't say it would make the drawing cuter.

What am I supposed to do to start drawing? Just draw random shit? Apparently drawabox sucks, what am I supposed to do as a complete beginner? And yes, I have read the sticky. That didn't help much

>>6158801
You fucking retards piss me off so much. You're given resources handed to you on a silver fucking platter and it's not enough. Draw a razor across your wrists, how about that?

>>6158821
The problem is that there's too many options to choose from, I can't do all of them at once

>>6158824
so pick one you braindead monkey george floyd nigger

>>6158826
But I don't know which one I SHOULD pick, everyone says they suck so I don't know which one is worth picking or not

>>6158830
oh, everyone says they suck? then I guess they all suck and no one has ever learned how to draw. kill yourself, I'm genuinely asking. I'm begging you to commit suicide.

Should I try coloring this if so how hard brush I always wanted to try water colors but I’m permaprebeg.

>>6158801
The first step is to stop posting. Every time you post is time better spent drawing. Also, drawing is not something done by committee. There are things you have to find out on your own, and this is one of those things.

>>6158843
You're permaprebeg because you don't listen to any advice, don't study, don't try, don't abandon that awful style, you fucking deserve to be permaprebeg and every word of advice given to you is wasted effort.

>>6158843
sure why not, you get better by messing up.

>>6158850
I know. It’s so terrible. At the rate I’m going I’ll become something even worse than permaprebeg. What would that be? Please give me a new label!

>>6158836
Ok fine, recommend me one then

>>6158716
clussy

>>6158854
I already did: kill yourself

>>6158865
Don't have that one in the reference folder, can you provide a demonstration?

>>6158865
C'mon dude, help out your fellow beg

>>6158886
Draw this

Does anyone know how to copy someone's brush?

background was halfassed but i really couldn't figure out how to draw the pee.

>>6158914
>finally someone drew a girl peeing themselves

>>6158663
big issues i'll say
>hands
they're just bad, quite bluntly. work on them.
>head
its misshapen, comes down way too much in the back makes it look kinda awkward.
>clothes
just generally bad folds. typically for anime/cartoony styles its best to keep simple shapes and only add the major folds that indicate shape rather than throwing them in willy nilly like on the sleeves.
>feet
you didn't draw her cute bare feet

>>6157432
hmm
well at least the shading and colouring is good

>>6157432

how do i draw clothes folding and flapping about in the wind
how do i make motion seem faster, heavier, more intense
how do i absorb the essence of the late kentaro miura with necromancy or satanic rituals

>>6158899
Ok, this is how it turned out. I wish my tablet would just arrive already so I wouldn't need to draw with a pen

>>6158932
Learn line control and how to construct 3D forms in space. Then try drawing the image again.

>>6158928
for motion its very gesture based. get loose with it and draw the entire figure with the motion in mind. the entire energy of the figure should be going into the movement you want.

>>6158935
>Learn line control and how to construct 3D forms in space
What's the best way to learn that?

>>6158939
Practice this everyday until you can freehand your lines, circles and ellipses.

>>6158928
>how do i draw clothes folding and flapping about in the wind
You don't. It's a static image. You could have the jacket move away from the body more like a cape to express motion.
>how do i make motion seem faster, heavier, more intense
Change the composition. The one pictured is dull, almost comical. It's like the punchline to a 2-panel comic strip. Change the angle. Widen the gap between the figure and the ledge. Study photos of atheletes competing in long jump.
>how do i absorb the essence of the late kentaro miura with necromancy or satanic rituals
This is more of a /x/ question.

>>6158944
Oh damn I can't do those until my tablet arrives. Is there a non digital alternative for the time being?

>>6158948

>>6158928
>how do i draw clothes folding and flapping about in the wind
Studies.
>how do i make motion seem faster, heavier, more intense
Studies!
>how do i absorb the essence of the late kentaro miura with necromancy or satanic rituals
STUDIES!

>>6158950
Much appreciated.

It isn't even worth scanning anymore, how bad is it and how to improve it?

>>6158956
It looks good for a cartoon. Not sure what you;d want to improve.

>>6158624
Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 35

And now, hand practice.

>>6158938
>>6158947
>>6158952
ty for critique, also just noticed the hilt of the sword is slightly off-center but whatever im tired

Hi /beg/.
Here it is my last smartphone drawing.
I've made real improvement (Twitter below for hign quality).

I accept all criticism that can help me improve my skills.

https://twitter.com/chevronsauvages/status/1546878138768138241?t=K_NuXW4j18UqiD1i_rqscA&s=19

HQ here
https://twitter.com/chevronsauvages/status/1538394033248251904?t=Q_v1YgI8tdVcOHG1n7QYHA&s=19

>>6157232
Today is Day 3 of this hobby, pic rel. Give me 1 good book to read while I start this journey. There's so much information out there I'm getting overwhelmed, between the million different youtubers and tons of other resources. End goal is character drawing (surprise surprise bet you didn't see that coming)

Hello BEG, how are you holding up?

>>6158956
It looks like standard cartoon to me. Basic improvement can be done by adding background, speech bubbles, shadows, colors...
>>6158914
I noticed many artists draw liquids against varied dark background so they can use light color to draw it and show how it drips
>>6158843
Thats way too good for "permabeg". At worst i can see anons giving you hard time because lines arent clean and you draw cartoon which local weebs loathe. But you arent permabeg
>>6158801
Keys to drawing, draw every single pic in the book + the assigments, easy
>>6158716
coom
>>6158656
very nice, do you just make these with just imagination?
>>6158568
>>6158566
First you should be able to draw "accurately" what you see before venturing into more advanced shit like drawing what you cannot see
>>6158493
Add some outline or make the edges sharper and you won
>>6158226
what is pencil stuff?
>>6157255
Very nice. Oh my god the fence details, the accuracy uh oooooooh
>>6158387
Add color to stuff which should be most visible? You can also add depth by making things closer to the viewer with heavier outline
>>6158979
Very soulful and original. Your coloring is devoid of darker tones. Turn your pic into gray scale to see what i am talking about. Even in gray scale you should see whole range (white-gray-black) used, in your case you wont see darker tones.

>>6158991
ah fuck you right when i posted my drawings
ya piss me off

this guy really fucking pisses me off imma have to post my drawings often to combat this guy

>Very soulful and original. Your coloring is devoid of darker tones. Turn your pic into gray scale to see what i am talking about. Even in gray scale you should see whole range (white-gray-black) used, in your case you wont see darker tones.

Thanks a lot, that will be very helpful.

>>6158986
Steve Huston head drawing course (youtube)
Stephen Silver's book (artbook thread)

Following Jazza's construction tutorial, just drew this little fella. His feet are missing because this notebook is too goddan small. It's getting late so it'll come back to it tomorrow. Hopefully my tablet will arrive tommorow.

>>6159014
>Jazza
oh no no no

>>6159018
Oh god here we go again. What's wrong with his tutorials?

>>6159019
not that anon but if you follow youtube guides you are ngmi.

>>6159019
Not that anon but if you follow /ic/ guidance you are ngmi.

>>6158978
I didn't even realise it was supposed to be a sword he was holding. In Miura's art you'll notice the big swords are always behind Guts when he's moving forward, and then he either halts and pulls them up (giving the impression that the momentum has been transferred into the sword) or pulls them over his shoulder and smashes them down. Holding the sword forward while running or leaping is more the sort of thing a commander would do with a thin sabre (and IIRC Griffith does that as well). You probably have a pretty good idea of what Miura's art looks like and the impressions it gives when you see it, or art like it, but to draw something similar you'll have to REALLY see it, and the easiest way to do that is to copy it as a reference (which is what a study is) because that forces you to look at all the details and think about why they are the way they are.

Who do I watch to learn how to draw drunk thicc wine aunties

>>6157866
Disable the pressure sensor in the brush's settings (which you can open with the toolbar button or with F5 by default)
You can also toggle pressure sensitivity as a whole by setting a shortcut for "Use Pen Pressure" or adding it in the toolbar

Today's draws. I'm fairly impatient with each individual doodle but I'm trying to improve the overall shape, form, and perspective and not fuss about details for the most part. There's obviously lots to improve but it feels nice to draw stuff.

>>6158979
>Not making the mirror assembly some kind of headpiece
>Space telescope needs glasses
>Is that a Canon Eos
I'm sure it will get you a bunch of new followers and likes

>>6157232
Any drawing software that doesn't make me want to close it at the second? I have clip studio and as soon as I see so much information on the screen I just want to close it.

I feel like I'm really starting to figure out a construction method that works for me but I'm having some final-stretch issues.
The red line is the traced reference and the black is freehand, how do I stop my freehand drawings from looking so nasty?

>>6157812
I use this very own tablet and I've been drawing for less than a year. I also use Krita. Just iterate on the subjects and tools. It takes a while to get used to drawing with a tablet.

For this one, for example, I used the Basic-3__Flow pen for lines and Basic-5__Size for filling. I've also found out that you can use a selection tool and hit Backspace to fill your selection with your secondary color.

>>6157866
You don't even need to change your settings, just pick the Basic-1 pen and set the size to what you want it to be.

>>6157943
Cool guns, anon.

>>6158046
Nice pose, anon. Saved.

>>6159058
Last year I took a raid of misunderstanding reports, I lost an account of +7000 followers with dozens of very rewarding conversations... I was starting to build a small community, and I lost everything.

I recently decided to come back to Twitter, I have to start all over again... maybe these little drawings will make me win a handful of subscribers, I don't hide that it would make me a little happy because it's always interesting to exchange with enthusiasts.

but I know I'm on the list (the French woke community has already spotted me, they make lists of people to ban and block). I'm afraid this Twitter account will be deleted soon, even if we say nothing serious, on a misunderstanding we can lose everything.

>>6159061
I think you should flip your canvas while drawing until you can naturally start catching yourself when your drawings "lean".

>>6159085
Yeah I can already see a lot of it was stretched too far downward, but I also feel like building on top of the old Loomis circle isn't very comfortable anymore. Maybe I'm out of practice.

How to into female face proportions?

>>6158994
This guy really pisses me of.

>>6159098
they're literally the same, the difference between male and female faces is that female faces are softer and the planes aren't as defined.

>>6159098
How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way explains pretty female face proportions

Trying to use watercolor brush for highlights and shadows. I feel like I’m fighting it.

>>6158303
Unsure if this is a good or bad thing, but glad you have been spooked

>>6159104
this guy pisses me off too

>>6159104
good shit anon, you helped me out a while ago and I wanted to know how do you start your construction drawing heads? My proportions are solid now but I feel like I have to circle back to the very basics and learn how to properly draw the basic shapes themselves

>>6159109
Yeah. I think we should break his wrists.

>>6159122
I'm not a good example for constructing the heads, I still have issues with proportions when drawing heads at angles. But the way I start the drawing is I usually draw a circle and a line across for the direction I want the head to face, it's treated as a guideline and is usually erased when blocking in the forms. Something to keep in mind is the skull is not a circle but more of a boxy oval shape.

>>6157432
>heavily refined rendering on the sideboob
>everything else so hilariously slapdash it had to be intentional
Incredible

>>6159145
darn, guess I'll just have to get better at drawing circles then lol
the side planes of the head are what trip me up the most at the moment, but I know the proportions for them so I guess I'll just have to grind more

>>6157432
now THIS is art

>>6159155
The side planes can definitely be weird, the zygomatic arch curves around the face making it less than flat

>>6157232
i drew

>>6158991
>background

is just a sketch of the character out of context, there cant be a background because there is 2 of them next to each other in different proportions.

>>6159031
>cartoon
ugh.

>>6159031

mikeymegamega

Not sure what i was trying to achieve with this. I guess I just like drawing men in suits.

>>6157680
>>6157590
Dude those are 2 noticeably different angles on each...

do you guys keep your screen and drawing areas the same aspect ratio

Some fanart I’m working on, I need to clean up the background. How does it look overall? Is there anything I should work on before rendering?

do trad skills transfer over to digital?

I've been drawing for roughly 2-3 months with big gaps where I haven't had a chance to draw but I feel like I'm coming along pretty well. Someone on another board asking on /ic/ would be a good place to get critique.

>>6159294
yes

When I draw i tend to draw the lower portion of the body larger than the one above (thorax is larger than the head, the pelvis is larger that the thorax, and so on). Do you guys know how to best approach this? I tried to measure proportion but maybe I didnt do it well.
And also about the linework, I know it messy so what do you guys think on how to fix it?
Thanks.

>>6159326
Here's the reference I used.
Also if give you guys could give me general drawing tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

>>6159326
>Do you guys know how to best approach this?
you have to slow down and copy the reference exactly. you should be constantly using comparative measurements to make sure everything is proportionate. You are obviously rushing. You will eventually get faster, but you have to do this over and over and over again. Those references should take you a couple hours each. Also draw larger.

>>6159338
You should stop

>>6159234
That's a tuxedo, not a suit

>>6157418
I'd rape the shit out of her

alright let's have it, I know the eyes are weird and it's shit and I spent too much time on this and I should quit and give up because it's shit also

>>6157346
Why are you a pedophile?

>>6159366
wait I didn't resize I apologise for existing

>>6157943
>ejection port after the magazine and bigger than the cartridge size
Anon pls

I seem to consistently make faces too wide. I'm trying to use the cut sphere like in Loomis but I find it hard to tell how shortening the far side is supposed to work. Also I have a lot of trouble having the jaw shape work with attaching it to the right spot.

>>6159432
This is pretty funny, keep it coming

>>6159432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9YKQQo9zeI
abandon "loomis sphere" and do your block-ins

pool party neeekooo

‘Ate colouring, but have to start at some point.

>>6159366
i think you are on the right path fren, I would recommend not blurring so much and using more shapes. i am terrible at explaining so here is a vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ&t=391

did my daily figure drawing, i actually pushed through and did the 10 min figure as well. I don't know where to go from here, I feel kind of stuck on what to study.

>>6159350
You mean something like making plumbline and measuring the angle? I'll keep that in mind.
>You are obviously rushing
I probably am, if I recall correctly I did this two drawing 20-ish minutes each.

The point of this drawing is that I tried to apply Hampton method to draw a figure and I realize that I still need measure the picture

>>6157432
This has to be intentional

>>6159207
>thread full of cartoon bullshit
Wew lad

Alright /beg/, what you currently
>grindan'
>readin'
>referecin'
>listenin'

>>6159293
Looks cool, need some fixes on boots. And it would be nice to exaggerate the swords, right now they looks boring.

>>6159544
:Shitposting:

>>6159326
You should really focus on getting the proportions right for now. When you're done try to superimpose your drawing with the model and think about what you did wrong.

apple

>>6159106
Have you ever seen a human face, in your life?

In Krita, how would you recommend I render this brain given I'm just copying the ref(e.g the parts in the blue ellipses)?

I tried
*zooming in using a brush(red)
*using lasso + airbrush (yellow)
*contiguous selection tool + airbrush (yellow)

It feels like all these will take forever. If that's the only way, fine, but is there a better way?

>>6159587
ok, first things first, software doesnt matter so dont think about how to do x ad y in wtv software you arent doing anything you cant do with other programs assuming they arent ms paint

moving on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLg6xM02CLQ&t=14s

you are already doing this so just keep going, the img is just smooth little texture shading you should be able to do with just a soft brush focusing on ambient occlusion

also the black lines are too strong so blend them out a bit and soften them so they dont create that graphic effect instead of a more realistic one
if you look at the ref the blackest lines are still soft transitioning out

like the vid i linked do general occlusion pass then go in and render the texture after

>>6159596
thanks a lot this is spot on. I'll fix the black lines and do the ao. (also marc brunet's freaky intros lol)

here's a blook

I'm still trying to get anatomy right but also wanted to try something stylized

>>6159506
hello jules

You ever wonder if you're polishing a turd?

>>6159620
All the time.

>>6159544
just some figures

>>6159074
>the woke are targeting me
Come to the fediverse.

>>6158991
Thanks. I sometimes use a referencd for a pose, but that's about it.
The airbrush (lel) brush is really nice for sketching

>>6159544
>grindan'
Whatever for my current job and oil painting on the side
>readin'
Nothing
>referecin'
Some poses if needed
>listenin'
Anything grindcore and fastcore. Gummo is my go to grind vand right now. Ona Snop for fastcore.

>>6159641
looks like these are demons straight out of SMT

>>6159641
Bottom right has quite a lot of personality, cool stuff. Also, out of curiosity, are you the anon who drew that skull knight with the armor made of fingers?

It's just muh art style!

>>6159544
Trying to draw a knight and quickly realized I have no idea how to render metal or cloth since I've just been drawing naked people so I'm studying how that works.

>>6159651
Yeah, bottom right is my favourite. And no, that's someone else. The only stuff I've posted before this are drawings of women from the 1920's and 30's

>>6159659
Ah, fair. Anyways, nice stuff, keep it up.

>>6157238
It's nice.

>>6158956
How the fuck am I supposed to add a background for this? There is no space from one figure to another!

>>6159366
You gotta keep some hard edges there, bud. Don't use the soft brush for everything.
>>6159326
>>6159432
Focus on getting the proportions right first. You can have the ref in the same image and just drag your lineart over to compare, then correct.

when in doubt about what to draw, draw the husbando
>>6159616
who

>>6159728
cheers, I did get carried away with srb, will remember that

>>6159544
>grindan'
Not much because it's hard to use a tablet in a small tent, hopefully I'm only doing that for about a month this time before my next seasonal job with housing starts. What I was working on recently is rendering different clothing materials like velvet, silk and latex, and brushing up on my drapery.
>readin'
Gurney's Color & Light. Just never read it before so I finally got around to it. Reading more than practicing desu. Has nothing to do with what I'm actively grinding, mostly it's re-cementing things I've learned recently.
>referecin'
Photos mostly, some drawings off of pixiv because I like how their cloth looks even if it isn't 100% realistic. Pic related was meant to evoke the style of the manga the character is from but I only referenced it at the end for fiddly outfit elements like the shoulder ribbons and shoe design.
>listenin'
neofolk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1YyFg1LBEw

butt

>>6159827
stay in your pedophile containment thread please

>>6159585
What’s a human?

>>6158922
kek so true

>>6159774
Where is the background?

>>6159827
Where is the background

>>6159863
>>6159870
Post some of your backgrounds

>>6159641
Where is the background

>>6159874
I don't draw

>>6159876
Figures

>>6159863
It's that line.

>>6159874
I dont draw.

>>6159887
What we want?
Backgrounds
When we want them?
Now

>>6159890
You could say you don’t want backgrounds put on the back burner.

>>6159890
Don't yell like that. It's grounds for backlash.

Some 5 min gesture i did yesterday. I struggle a lot with the gesture in the arms and legs, advice would be appreciate :]

>>6158956
>>6159725
Get creative

Practice from imagination that I did yesterday, had a lot of fun doing it. Any feedback is appreciated

More poses following Jazza's tutorial, I guess I got a little bit better compared to yesterday, but I'm not ready to start blocking them out from actual reference yet. Still, I'm kinda proud of how it turned out

>>6159988
where ius rhw thumb on the far left

>>6160032
Here

>>6159991
Try making each line in one long motion. You can go over the line again if you want and it's not quite perfect, or even make the line up from multiple strokes if you get good at hand control, just try not to do these little tiny lines that go all over the place. I know these are just practice but if you chicken scratch while practicing you'll ingrain it as a bad habit and be less comfortable drawing lines confidently; In fact, because it's just practice, it's the best time to draw confidently even if you're not good yet, because it doesn't matter if you make mistakes.

I feel burned out for no reason.
No motivation, I don't know what to draw. Even if I start drawing, i see that my skill level plummeted
Is this a thing?

>>6160156
But I'm drawing with a pen so there's no going back. Also my tablet just arrived, but I'm having a hard time adjusting to it, not sure if it's the brush I'm using but my lines are going all over the place

>>6157232

>>6159988
that's a nice tit, mirin
also character seems like it has lots of personality

>>6159988
use reference, learn anatomy

So annoyed, been really excited to draw recently and my tablet keeps acting up. It's some Huion piece of shit that stops detecting pen input for a few seconds ever 10-20 seconds or so. Absolute pain in the ass to draw with. Tried troubleshooting every which way I know, I think it might just be wireless issues. So fucking frustrating and I can't really afford a tablet right now.

uh... so what do I learn from copying page19/197 of loomis' figure drawing for all its worth?

Is there any well-known artist who uses a brush that doesn't change size and opacity on pressure? I have shitty pressure control and I wonder if I can get around it.

>>6160263
whether you're painting or doing linework, it helps a lot as it allows you to make the subtle changes that you need without changing your brush settings
learn it

I lost motivation to work on this once I flipped the canvas and realized the eyes aren't lined up correctly (aside from the fact that they are already kind of fucked). Would love some thoughts though, I'm kind of struggling trying to render.

One more.

>>6160169
>But I'm drawing with a pen so there's no going back
Yeah but the hairy lines will always look bad.

>>6160169
>But I'm drawing with a pen so there's no going back.
Doesn't matter, you shouldn't really erase a lot either but since you'll be drawing digitally I guess you'll always have an undo button and perfect erasers anyway. But anyway that's why I said it doesn't matter if you go over the line multiple times, just make it one long line.

What's the trick to getting base color in when using anti-aliased brushes?
I'm too used to just being able to use the fill tool with pixellated ones. The closest solution I've found is the magic wand tool and invert-selection, but it's still more difficult, and for one reason or another I just can't deal with colouring inside the lines digitally despite finding it no problem whatsoever working physically.

>>6160340
just turn the background green and fill in the blanks. theres ways to make the paint bucket more forgiving as well but thats program dependent

Any tips on how to improve except just practice? What are my worst things I need to improve based on this image I made today?

>>6160419
you read a book and apply what you read
your image is shit
read fun with a pencil

hey

>>6160340
What program do you use?

I haven't drawn in the better part of a year or so but I'm trying to get back in the saddle of things-- I never did get very far at up on the /beg/ level.
I started randomly ghosting lines and drawing circles but I realized I have no clue why I'm doing that and what the fuck I'm doing.
I dunno, is there anything I can get from looking at this page or did I waste my time?

>>6160419
I'm going to be blunt: Nothing about it is of acceptable quality except arguably your line control (but that's assuming all those lines are where you wanted them to be to begin with). If you want to draw characters in poses, the foundational skill you should grind first is gesture. You need to get a good sense of how the body directs force and attention around itself and how it interacts with the ground (ie how the linear downward pull of gravity affects a figure and how they balance) or poses will look floaty, stiff and unnatural like this.

After that there are two big areas I see you need to improve: One is cross-contours, and these may screw you over even just doing gesture unless you have innately good observational skills when working from reference. This means things like the way the sleeves curve when crossing the arm, or the little bit of extra line that goes in on a joint to show that the sections of a limb overlap. Since it's in front of her head, I assume the left arm is supposed to be coming toward the viewer, so the sleeve contour there is right at least. I'm literally not sure what you intended to do with the right arm. If it's going back, as the wrist contour and the bit of palm in front of the thumb would suggest, then the sleeve is going the wrong way and the thumb is also on the wrong side; If it's also supposed to be coming forward, then the first two contours I mentioned are wrong. Bad cross contours makes everything look flatter, even more than things like simple bad anatomy (like that left shoulder...) will, and are therefore key to "cartoony" artstyles that simplify or ignore many "realistic" aspects of their subjects.

The third thing is facial proportions, which are very important for appeal. Gonna second >>6160431 because FWAP will teach you the basics there.

>>6160441
it seems like one of those warm up exercise. Just read one of the beginner books or watch one of the beginner course videos. Learning how to draw is not a race so just enjoy your time learning.

>>6160446
Thank you so much for the detailed answer, I really appreciate it. I will definitely go read the book and try to apply what's written there

>>6160441
You practiced on your lines/accuracy. Its not waste time but i wouldn't bother much.
Accuracy and clear lines comes with practice, a quick warmup of drawing circles before actuall studies is pretty ok tho.
Just move on, you will be able to draw perfect circles anyway later.

>>6160452
Good stuff, keep going. I think i know who you are haha.

>>6160468
>saving your circles
based...

>>6160468
Thank you, I will.

how do I make this more appealing?

>>6160518
by getting the fundamentals right
the book and the human's line of sight ain't even aligned
you can't ask questions like this actually reading and trying out things in the sticky
go back to catalog and look it up

>>6160518
I can't tell if she's supposed to be surprised, aroused, or scared

>>6160518

>>6160433
Krita

>Traced vs reference only
Bruh... this gesture drawing method is tough

>>6160578
its only tough because you're not used to it
finish that and try again with another subject

>>6160550
how long have you been drawing?

>>6160524
thanks, will keep in mind
>>6160545
like with all women arousal and fear are close bedfellows

>>6160578
please don't do gesture if you are still symbol drawing it's literally the worst thing you could do

>>6160550
>Fun with a pencil
Very nice touch anon

>>6160274
Nah it's looking good, use liquify tool of it's really bothers you, looking like you're moving away from the tumblr style into your own thing, nice progress.

>>6160432
Expressive and cute!

>>6160562
I think krita has an option to expand the filled area by x pixels, because most software does and krita tries to keep pace with standards. I don't know if it has a "refer other layers" option for its paint bucket yet but CSP has that so I assume krita will at some point if it doesn't yet. What you do is have it expand by 2-3 pixels and fill on an underlying raster layer, and it preserves the antialiasing. If there are holes, you clean them up with hard round, but you don't have to colour the entire thing or even the entire border by hand that way.

What exactly is that part and how can i draw it? Can someone draw this head for me? I even traced and didnt get it

>>6160628
I think that's just her left eyebrow arch. It's protruding a bit compared to the rest of the forehead.

>>6157232
What is a good resource to learn how to shade and render?

>You're a spiteful, hateful, asinine creature
>A pupil with no scruples who's no better than the teacher

>>6160728
Anon, naked lolis aren't allowed on /ic/! Think of the advertiser!

>>6160728
why the fuck are you role playing here?
get the fuck out

UUUUUhhhh kill me beg

>>6160628
That part is eye socket, its a end of skull bone where the "hole" starts and the eye is there. You cant see the eye but you see the bone. On this part the eyebrows usually grow.
>>6160518
Cleaning lines, learning how to shade, how to render, background...
>>6160249
That adult body is 9 heads tall?
>>6160162
Yes drawing can be pain in the ass like that
>>6159366
Hey thats actually charming i dig it
>>6159063
fuuuuuury. Nice
>>6158992
Can you elaborate what exactly is making you feed me (You)s like that?
>>6160728
Nice cunny

>>6158760
>>6158782
>>6158920
thank you so much for the critique. i did a new composition of a similar subject trying to implement your feedback. please share your thoughts

>>6159104
I really like your lines

Another day more draws.

>>6160776
Draw Rocky

>>6160744
>Can you elaborate what exactly is making you feed me (You)s like that?
because ya piss me off

>>6158966
Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 36

More hand copying, moving on to foot and shoe copying tomorrow.

Does anyone have Masters Academy lessons from Charles Hu? I want to learn some stuff from him to help with my construction

>>6160843
Charles who?

>>6160857
Charles Hu who draws the good heads

When’s the next thread I got a question but I don’t wanna post twice

>>6160881
Make the new thread, wait for someone to post in it, then ask your question, no one will ever know that you're the OP!

>>6160893
>>6160893
>>6160893
>>6160893

NEW THREAD

>>6160518
>how do I make this more appealing?
By more observations on what appealing to you and deconstructing ref form to primitives. Also read FWAP to not fuck up face features placement. Pic right column for help. The same for whole body, "anatomy for sculptors" has a simplified forms.

>>6159544
>grindan'
Grinding out 100 skulls
>readin'
Storm Chaser, Dresden Files book 1. Audio book for when I go on walks/runs. Dude is horny kek
>referecin'
Skulls. Lots of skulls.
>listenin'
Mayday
https://youtu.be/4N8miWIdD54

>>6160468
R-Raphael-sama??