/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Alright guys i finally took concept art brush pack pill

I'm still trying to have better body structures, how is it anons?

>>6152901
Nice values.

>>6152901
this is amazing, how do i learn to paint like you

>>6152921
Tank you
>>6152922
Thanks
Honestly i didn't do anything particular
Just your standart loomis and all those books than some random rendering and environment design courses
Painted a lot with round brush and did muster studies
I draw or paint almost dayle for ~2-3-4 hours a day

>>6152914
calves are too linear, people's legs tend to taper at the knee rather than calves exploding from the thigh, but I can see what you tried to do (I think?) with the faint tibia/shin outline
nice try though :) keep at it

>>6152901
Damn, I can see how that would speed up the process. Like the chains and whatnot, hmm, something to chew on for sure. And as the other anons mentioned, really great value work. I guess you'll be unstoppable once you start using alpha masks for texture anon

>>6152975
yeah process acselerated a lot desu
For now i want to stick to thumbnails for my smol project and then i'll check alpha masks so thanks for suggestion and compliments

Is choosing to not color pieces for a lot of time just to focus on inking and making my sketches, shapes, forms, lineart, props, clothes/hair, etc. fairly detailed viable if I don't care much about rendering? I noticed a lot of people who overfocus on rendering tend to be still lacking in some fundamentals

another awful day, wish i drew more
>>6152901
>>6152983
these are really nice

>>6152901
>>6152983
>>6152989
Color is definitely it’s own thing, I’m considering the same until I nail values. Then we can just gradient map and paint over.
Things are looking bright.

>>6152989
>>6153000
turbobegginer here and ive noticed that my 60 second doodles always come out looking better than shit i spend a large amount of time on
The latter looks like a hyper detailed mess while the former looks bare and simple but decent looking, and i am not sure sure how to proceed
Does this mean im still symbol drawing?

some hands from ref

How do people get ideas? I want to make porn animations in both 2d and 3d, but I have no idea what to do. Or when I do get something, I have the feeling that its been done a trillion times over so its not worth it to make it.

You should just look at your reference every day for 15 minutes without masturbating

>>6153026
>I have the feeling that its been done a trillion times over so its not worth it to make it.
Stop worrying about this.

You could read erotic fiction and find a scene you want to draw.

>>6153026
Just because it's been done a trillion times. Doesn't mean it won't be sought out by coomers.

>>6153053
>>6153057
You know, thinking it over again, I've realised that whenever I go looking for porn I never think to myself "hmm, i've seen this pose too much". I may be severely overthinking my scenes then

I tried doing the upside down drawing from the "drawing on the right-side of the brain" book and I feel like I fucked it up royally on most parts.
Don't know if I should do it again or if I should just move forward.

>>6153060
you can move on, the point of that exercise is to make you think in a different way.

>>6153025
Good job.

>>6153025
>>6153080
Good hand job

>drawing bouncing boobs in 3/4
>reference squash and stretch and boob weight
>can't exaggerate the inner boob without it looking like a bolt-on
>experiment with curvature and weight
Left is before, right is after. Also, does nipple placement matter much even if I try to face them outwards?

>>6153122
I like the left better, it conveys movement better imo. The nipple should be around the center of the breast. also post the ref

>>6153124
boobs too big ..

trying to wrap my head around shading in digital. i can shade with pencil way better, and this just looks awful. too much contrast? too many values at once?

>>6153144
Just do more hard edges
Your shit is just blurry even in places it should be crisp hard edges

>>6153124
I like your style. Nice tits(my favorite part of this image)

What am I doing wrong?

None of the stuff in the sticky talks about how to develop talent. What’s the best way to do that? I don’t want to waste time doing studies.

>>6153150
fucked around and added some detail - from what i've seen, the problems were: top and bottom areas had similar shadows and too much contrast (and too similar throughout the picture) between light and shadow
ion think hard edges were the problem though it still doesn't convince me

>>6153158
You’re drawing what you think you see and not what you’re actually seeing. The nostrils are like you’re looking at them from a lower angle while the eyes are drawn more head in than they are.
Classic beginner’s mistakes. You’ll get the hang of it.

>>6153162
>develop
>talent
What's the definition of talent to you? Maybe you mean intuition?

Wanna get better at drawing clothes how’s this

>>6153205

>people with some gorgeous art
> posting 500×800
>permabeg niggers drawing circle
>10000×20000
I love this board

thoughts on this shit i drew?

wip

>>6153287
You should consider not wasting time making anymore p on this w. It sucks.

Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 31

tities uhh

If I finish Bridgman complete guide to drawing from life will I instantly go from high /beg/ to low /int/?

>>6153322
Not instantly, no. There’s an exam you have to take, and it gets graded by your peers (us.)

Started learning and I'm trying to draw a face that doesn't look terrible.
I'm also trying to draw a character that isn't looking straight forward but it always end up looking like it has no depth and the eyes/mouth/nose placement also always look wrong. Any tips anons?

>>6153318
When you use lineart do you use a single size brush or do you have pen pressure on?

>>6153303
how about I make some P in ur moms A

>>6153332
I have pen pressure

any re-animator enjoyers?

95 more

>>6153332
why would you draw with pen pressure off? the fuck?

>>6153375
Calm your tits slugger, was just a question.

>>6153375
Nta but depends what and how you want draw

>>6152893
not to crab on op, but can someone explain why the figure doesn't look like she's grounded on the stairs?
is it the weak shadow, incorrect perspective or both?

>>6153378
post an example of any decent artwork that's draw without pen pressure.

>>6152901
gib brushes please

>>6153381
Holy fuck you're annoying. There are artists that don't use pen pressure for their lineart and will instead use the eraser tool to give the same effect.

>>6153386
>there are retards
okay

>>6153388
No need to talk about yourself faggot.

>>6153381
Some artists use no pen pressure for but simply decrease pen size for lineart.

>>6153025
What kind of a brush is that? I can't find a good brush for a pencil/charcoal effect.

>>6153060
The point of the exercise is to show you that your brain is trying to take over and interprets when it can recognize the subject,
but when the subject is obfuscated (turned upside down / parts covered) you can focus more clearly on distances and accuracy thereby ironically creating a better drawing.
your drawing is pretty proportionally off so I'm not sure you did it properly, however if you think you recognized that effect you should move on.

Can I get some smut artist help. My biggest problem really is motivation, just the tablet setup, or gathering references... Driver issues etc are enough to make me back away from practice/drawing in general.

>>6153383
I can't link it atm but you can just go to yt and search for photobash concept
There will be a guy that photobashes environments and you can find brushpack for free in discription

>>6153403
I'm beg but I like drawing coom on occasion. You can't really rely on motivation, it really comes down to discipline. It sounds like you already know the solution to your problem, why not replace your hard drive? As for reference I save everything I like and keep it organized in folders, and tablet set up isn't really time consuming.
Great art by the way

Does anyone know if there are any good oil painting courses online? John Singer Sargent is my favourite painter and I'd love to start learning to paint like him, but I'm not trying to make a career out of it so actually quitting work and going to a real atelier doesn't make much sense.

>>6153416
Thank you, I've been doodling on that piece for a couple of hours now, almost without reference at all. I also save reference/pictures 90% of my 4TB drive consist of porn, body parts, poses and what not but I still find myself googling, and actively searching for more when I draw, it's insanely time consuming and it kills my drive to actually draw when I finally find exactly what I want. I thought of maybe taking my own body/poses as reference to reduce the time it takes to find extremely specific stuff, but I feel like my discipline is either nonexistent, or I just completely lose interest if my coomer brain isn't activated at all times and constantly consuming porn, almost as if my entire drive to draw is just fueled by being horny

>>6153439
You could also look into 3d poses and make the reference the way you want.

>>6153425
Now draw her peeing herself

>>6153439
Don't you have any socials? Online compliments would be more than enough to motivate me if I were that good tbqh

>>6153458
I only use Twitter, and get like... 10 likes? on average, if even that. And it's probably just bots

>>6153065
>>6153401
Thanks for the heads up when I saw how my thing turned out and felt like I fucked up too much for the exercise to be useful, will try again tomorrow before heading off to the other chapters.
Hopefully it'll turn out better.

where can i learn how to draw from imagination?

>>6153495
why is this such a common question here? How are you even interested in drawing if you have no imagination?

>>6153514
most tutorials are about how to copy what you see or how to trace without literally tracing so you can say you are an artist. or they use cookie cutter formulas for drawing something from one perspective. i cant find any about drawing from imagination

>>6153495
Experiment do youre beast to make cool shit fail try again trial and error will teach you thing much batter the YouTube tutorials

>>6152893
How the hell do i start with light and shadows?? what excercises do i do? im at lose here, its desperating, i have been drawing for 1 or 2 years only form, which i still dont consider good enough to learn how do do light and shadows but fuck it, i want to do it anyway, how can i start?

>>6153529
Kangaroor

Based ic slash ic slash thread
Jangarrook

Bung

Am I wining? I feel like he's a bit too long and I'm kinda scared of shading it.

>>6153564
I really like this. Shade it, let's see

>>6153564
Flat, bad, croocked but appealing

>>6153564
Legs are weak.

>>6153587
Fuck I see it now head is off too what even is my angle. Thanks

>>6153578
Maybe you should spend more time on the line-drawing, especially for the fabric. Also, consider working in grey-scale first, for at least several months to a year (if you want)

>>6153020
Keep sketch and turn the later to low opacity and rapidly turn lineart on and off, find where it's wrong, then line again. But if you're turubobeg as you said it really doesn't matter, just draw for now.

Posted this in the futa general but I'll post it here too

>>6153659
Grotesque body, but nice lines

>>6153659
Not bad but her left art is was too thin and a bit short

>>6152901
Also tried photobashing for the first time
Didn't get the result i want but still quite happy about it

>>6153673
i REALLY hate this but it does look like something concept artists shit out

>>6153659
You should tone down some of the lines, if you want something to look soft you should use softer, thinner lines, harder lines would be for sharper and rougher, heavier things.

>>6153659
Looks like it's detachable. Something is up with the neck/head connection too.

>>6152901
>>6153673
your lighting makes no sense in either of these and your composition is weak as hell

beg chads... I join you

current level: schizophrenic scribbles

>>6153673
red is why the fuck is this shadow here
green is where shadow would make more sense from the alley shining light and building casting hard shadow around the corner
yellow is 2nd light source

>>6153712
Oh yeah was slapping big dark chunks of shadow in the end and didn't notice this
Tbh i was going trough BB artbook on my lap and seen they they don't really trying to make a realistic lightning but to show silhouttes and forms so i was mostly trying to do that
I think i also should've made more reflected light from the fire on different objects
Still have long way to learn things espesially after drawing anime girls my whole life

finished my toony persona nude drawing, i really like this pose

holy shit

>>6153736
i tried to draw him as 19 as possible

>>6153733
looks like someone chopped off the tip of his dick to sacrifice to some desert demon

>>6153733
>toon self nude
Why?
>grey alien skin
Why??
>I really like this pose
WHY???
>childlike proportions
I hope you're a zoomer. This is fucking awful even for beg

Are there any good exercises/ resources I should be looking up that could help with my proportions, just want to make sure I can stay on top of stuff like that and to not let it become a bad habit.

>>6153743
you have some pretty high standards then

>>6153745
>beg is considered high standards
Fun With A Pencil, now. ASAP.

>>6153749
loomis is shit and you know it

>>6153700
Be more deliberate in making your shapes, don't think because it's a basic fundie that you should do it quickly. Use a ruler for cubes

>>6153759
No one who intentionally created something like this >>6153733 should be allowed to have an opinion on loomis or any other teacher

I feel like the neck or the jaw is not quite right

>>6153743
since i unironically want to improve my work i will answer your questions
>toon self nude
well it's a nude of my persona, not actually me in a cartoon style. i did this because it was an idea that nobody else did so i decided to be the first that i know of
>grey alien skin
stylistic choice that came from using grey backgrounds, just stuck with me
>childlike proportions
yes i am a zoomer, i tried to balance cartoonish and young adult proportions, i struggle with proportions in this way.

>>6153761
Don't think I am rushing much, trying to be at least a little thoughtful. I'd rather not use a ruler, I think I would rather just get better at drawing the lines, there's no need for things to be 100%. I think my lines are fairly straight anyways, what I struggle more with (at least what I think myself) is placing shapes in the right place. For example I can draw an ok oval, but if I want to place the oval on an existing axis I'll miss it slightly, ending up with very wonky shapes. My cylinders are garbage because of this, trying to make the main axis first and then adding the ellipse on it's perpendicular axes.

That's just practice anyways I'm pretty sure, I'll get better as long as I am mindful of it.

>>6153769
just learn where muscles connect and then just connect the dots

>>6153529
>most tutorials are about how to copy what you see
What about Loomis? Or construction in general? Hell, what about gesture drawing?
Have you actually looked at any of the meme suggestions /ic/ gives you? Some of them are pretty good.

>>6153529
maybe I just never had this issue because I never sat down and took art classes or followed tutorials from ground zero on "how to draw".
I just started drawing, and if I wanted to draw something but didn't understand how to, I looked at things giving tips on it.

>>6153769
Are you constructing the pose or drawing the reference? You failed at both anyways

>>6153821
why are you so mean...

>>6153659
We're looking at the cock from the front in 3:4 view, but the shaft seems to be in profile glans looks like it's drawn from behind. It can curve, but rarely that much. Also, the mons pubis seems to dip in front of the base of the cock.
The breasts seem squished together in front of the torso as if held up by an invisible push-up bra. Probably not impossible to get that look with implants, but usually not desirable.
The neck too thin and too far back.

I don't know how to color the eyes and make the shading smooth. Never drawn with color before. Also this captcha is insane, Jesus.

>>6153822
Welcome to /ic/, this place could be so much more
>>6153769
Neck connects to the back of the head behind the ear

Questions about Hampton
1: How do you actually go about finding the center of gravity?
2: For the "about to" poses and that triangle, what exactly is meant by the stable bottom? Because some of the examples, while looking wonky, still look pretty straight and stable across the ground

Is it a good idea to jump between artstyles as a beg, or should you focus on being nonbeg in one style first before exploring other styles?

>>6153847
if something looks like its going to fall over then it suggests the character is doing a movement. theres no way to calculate the centre of gravity of a figure

>>6153864
it is okay to experiment with different styles

Hello BEG, have you violated some ellipses today?

>>6153826
Dodson would say: find reference and draw what you see :-)
>>6153769
I like how her face is mostly made from soft curves and you dont give a fuck and draw it with straight lines like a chad. The neck is fucked up because you did common BEG mistake: draw neck too thin.
>>6153744
Stuff like this is your best bet i think https://magicposer.com
>>6153733
Ahahahahhahahaha. I love how your creating managed to piss off people.
>>6153700
Training how to draw basic shapes is good and probably the fastest way how to get gud. However make sure you dont burn yourself out on anti-fun exercises. Also if you are drawing basic shapes, always go for 3D ones aka cubes instead of simple rectangles. Good job
>>6153673
Godlike
>>6153425
Soul
>>6153403
>tablet setup
>driver issues etc
Anon what? Unless you didnt remove autoupdates on Windows there is no way for these things to randomly stop working? And yeah motivation is a bitch, i struggle with it too
>>6153331
>no depth
You have to do shading, crosshatching, hard/soft edges, foreshorten the face features, thicken lines on one side. One of these or mix. Just copy some manga to see how they do it. TLDR drawing faces is really hard even with reference
>>6153205
Add lines / shadows implying folds / streching / form under the clothes
>>6153163
Next time i am drawing foliage i will just make leaves brush. It looks good
>>6153124
Soul
>>6153379
The shadows of her shoes dont connect to staircase
>>6153553
Find reference with lights and shadows, draw what you see :-)

>>6153158
>What am I doing wrong?

Listening to paramour.

I've tried to imagine a cylinder around her but couldn't figure out the placement and move on. Does anyone know how to angle the legs?

>>6153396
Some of Aalma do Luar's brushes. Pencil HB for the lines, Conte square dry for the shading. Default soft round on low flow for erasing a bit.

Should be in this .7z
https://mediafile.cc/6e2709bb548100cb

>>6153892
fucking asshole ya piss me off

for now on i will be the one to mass reply

>>6153375
>aduuuuuhhhh why would anyone draw with a binary single size line? Dafuq????

You are monumentally retarded.

what do i draw

>>6153930
draw a frog

>>6153892
ya really fucking piss me off

>>6153920
May I ask why you are so preoccupied with drawing a figure from this overhead angle?

>>6153930
esdeath

>>6153954
I've been working on others figures too I just keep returning to this one because I'm annoyed I haven't been able to figure it out. Mainly I want to learn how to work with weird angles and now that I look at it, the pose itself might actually be better off with a much gentler angle anyway

Do I dislike clean linework because I'm not an amazing artist, or are sketchy messy lines just better looking?

How to free myself from Loomis head hell

>>6153922
Thanks anon

what 3d software is good for blocking out scenes as a guide for drawing
maybe you know a good mannequin that has orientation guides built in
I could use daz, blender or houdini with handles enabled in viewport
any tips on this process

How do I make my drawing more interesting? They always come out a little bland and slightly unfinished looking, even when I add detail and color. I feel like I’m missing something.

Background looks bad, it’s a wip

>>6154008
I don't really understand what's going on in this picture.
your shadows also aren't very dark, and your use of shading is inconsistent.

>>6153892
in 500 years everyone's art will be in a museum anyway

I played around with the background but have provisionally just gone with a flat green. I'll wait until I've made its companion piece, NOTogey, with a red background before deciding for sure.

>>6154030
is this some zoomer meme?

>>6154035
Yes. There are many ogeys. Though this is only partially based on it; it arguably draws more inspiration from Japanese-style text emojis

O.0
o-o
O_O

etc

>>6154038
I see
ogey.

>>6154030
zovl

So if I used to make art when I was a kid (since I was like 6), stopped after high school, then restarted 8 years later, am I /beg/ or not?

>>6153818
Are gesture drawings actually useful kek

>>6154054
nah, all the professionals saying they are are just trying to sell you on something.

Is this bland? Is there a way I can spice it up? I need to add a background still

>>6154049
Pyw

Starting a hidden camera angle

>>6154062
I like it it reminds me of commander keen but the style resembles the bike cuck comic. Not throwing shade I actually like the style

Yo fuck coloring manually amirite gentleman. Values are still pretty sloppy and some weird light stuff though.

>>6154070
Thanks I love commander keen

>>6154062
Line of action is confusing, absokutely no idea what the next frame in this would look like.
Clothes and hair are shaded but skin and cape aren't. Why?
A wrinkles or two on the cape would also help break up the shape instead of just looking like a weird wavy blob.

>>6154088
Thanks, I see what you mean about the line of action. I had trouble shading cape so I left it unshaded, I was hoping I could get away with it lol apparently not. Not shading skin was a stylistic choice but I guess that didnt work either. I appreciate it, I'll keep these in mind

>>6154062
Try drawing the character from a more dramatic angle? Part of the blandness comes from the basic composition. Try a lower angle, or have the character coming at the viewer.

>>6153929
To be fair you could do quite a few stuff with those pens that affects thickness. Push on it a little bit harder or change the angle a bit and you have some variance on your work
t. beg who owned a couple of these in high school

>>6153381
Literally every single pixel artist lmao.

Should I even bother trying to make poses myself or just use references?

>>6154121
You're fucking retarded for posting this.

Going through weatherlys book and course

>>6154038

>>6154124
I think you should try looking in a mirror for reference and/or take some selfies for reference. You will know the exact light source for the pics. Just my 2¢

Lol, lmao even.

It's done; at least I'll consider it that way despite cut corners and really lacking effort at a certain point you can very well notice.
Reminds me of, if you'll excuse the boomer reference an episode of The Simpsons where Homer builds a grill and when complete his is just an absolute mess compared to a photo on the instruction pamphlet.

Things were learned though.

>>6154206
You should've at least use a compass or round plates to trace the circle, it requires even less effort.

>>6154211
Yeah, but I kind of just wanted to wing it.

Silly, but worth a laugh as I had to cope in certain areas.

>>6153826
This was a fun exercise.

>>6154205
quick painting to fuck around

Well shit. Super beg here. Only started drawing seriously for a month now. Did drawabox and now I can draw boxes but in any perspective pretty well (twisting them is something I haven't got the hang of yet) but then I moved over to figure drawing and fuck...it demoralized the hell out of me. Each and every attempt sucked badly and I didn't want to post my attempts here because of the trolls. Alas, I have nowhere else to go.

Fuck it, destroy me, ruin me. Tell me why I suck so I can fucking improge and move on from this super beg purgatory.

Why do my gestures/figures look wrong?

Please help me

>>6154205
>>6154229
the jawbone looks pretty weird

do drawing programs have a tool to make a loomis head

>>6154254
CSP lets you play around with 3d models though the proportions are a bit anime styled for the default stuff (you can mess with the proportions in the settings though). Can also look through the asset store for some more free junk.

>>6154232
Gesture is one of the hardest things to grasp, be patient with yourself. What helped me was seeing a bunch of different approaches that different people take when doing gestures, I was limiting myself too much in what I allowed myself to do.
First off, don't do timed gestures until you feel somewhat comfortable with the whole process. Take some time to actually analyze what the model is doing, are they twisting? Leaning to one side? Which leg are they putting their weight on?
After that, try to identify the tilt of the shoulders and the pelvis, they should always oppose each other. That should get you started at least. Keep up the practice when you can, don't drive yourself insane

>>6154232
>>6154277
When I say identify the tilts, actually make marks to denote them. Also, I would recommend exaggerating every gesture that you do. Remember that you're not copying, you're trying to capture the feel and energy of the pose

>>6153892
>Next time i am drawing foliage i will just make leaves brush. It looks good
The time it saves is massive, but it takes some getting used to
I just downloaded a few from the CSP assets

finished this exercise

>>6154232
Try doing gensure like this with lines for everything, no volume

sketchums

>>6153318
What's your inspirations anon?
I really like the stylisation of the eyes and face in general

>>6154307

Really great so far. I think showing the entire beast instead off cutting it off at the legs would make it even better.

>>6153645
Alright thanks

>>6153374

Where do you get your references?

>>6154331
Not him, but there are many reference sites, fren.

https://quickposes.com/en/library?page=1
https://www.characterdesigns.com
https://sketchfab.com

Are common useful ones. Pinterest or just google are also good if you're looking for specific stuff. People also often share reference packs on /ic/.

>>6152893
Imagine how good we would all be by now if we had stuck to drawing every day like we all promised ourselves.

>>6154358
Implying I don't

My work for today. Will come back to the portrait tomorrow

>>6153060
unironically looks like a picasso original drawing

>>6153425
blog?
i see a bright future ahead of you, anon

>>6154374
Looks like asukafag. He was posting in another thread. I think it may have been the alt general.

>>6154358
Except I do. Don't project

>>6154358
Who's we? I've drawn for several hours everyday since I started a few months ago

>>6154062
Your drawing is ok. Giving advice in stylized art is kinda weird. Your color choices are horrible desu, the cape hurts my eyes

Tried to do some gators

>>6154426
Holy sovl

>>6154426
Second one is so fucking cute. Good job

>>6154383
thanks

>>6154426
Absolutely based
https://youtu.be/Oe3FG4EOgyU

I miss firefly

can some of you guys recommend a good video course on digital coloring? I feel like got a good grasp on drawing and shading lately but colors still escape me

the shading/coloring exercise from before
it feels off to me, but i can't get the reason halp

What muscle is this little lump in the corner between the ribcage and abs? Is this part of the obliques?

what is the quickest way to a convincing tiddy?

>>6154544
Probably a combination of the obliques and the ribs.

>>6154508
looks pretty blurry
need to commit to some hard edges or it's just gonna look out of focus, it looks like you're kind of trying to do that in some areas but not really committing to the defined hard edge and making it a bit blurry
the big arm testicle in the center is a good example, compare it to this egg's shadows here
red=hard edges
blue=soft edges
3 hours in mspaint

>>6154589
forgot to put a blue line on the reflected light but whatever

drawing asian women faces is legitimately lunatic mode, eyes are big and amorphously shaped, no bone shapes like nose bridges or browlines to help, and everything's soft and pudgy so all the lines are curved. Just gimme an old white guy with cheekbones.

i wish i could draw more but my back pain prevents me from doing anything for more than a few hours

>>6154601
fentanyl

>>6154606
i don't wanna get used to pills, i am doing exercise but it hasn't helped much

posted inside wrong bread, so repostan

My studies and ref stuff always turn out better than my imagination, which I guess is going to be true for a long while, but my real issue is that I don't know how to finish pieces to make them attractive ie - lines/detailing etc and how to make stuff distinctive. My pieces end up looking like in pic related. It's a study which I did in the video. What direction should I take in order to get better finished quality stuff? What am I lacking?

https://files.catbox.moe/ihknju.mp4 (embed)

thanks

Maybe I won't fuck up the post this time ;)

My studies and ref stuff always turn out better than my imagination, which I guess is going to be true for a long while, but my real issue is that I don't know how to finish pieces to make them attractive ie - lines/detailing etc and how to make stuff distinctive. My pieces end up looking like in pic related. It's a study which I did in the video. What direction should I take in order to get better finished quality stuff? What am I lacking?

https://files.catbox.moe/ihknju.mp4

thanks

>>6154616
what about the shading and highlights
these are just flat colors

>>6154619
yeah i'm still working on that, like i mentioned i'm just really unhappy with the lines. Maybe that's in my head though. I'll finish it up and post when I'm done I think.

I need an idea guy
I just don't know what to draw

>>6154594
forgot to add image, left eyebrow wrong place i know

I am going insane.

>>6154644
yeah it feels like that sometimes

>>6154641
replace a lion with a pig

>>6154621
go to any board drawthread

hey guys

should have known this but i'm making some gains focusing on a very specific body part and just grinding out like 50 sketches of them. like hands, nose, shoulders

like i struggled a lot with the area where the arm meets the shoulder so now i got like 10 sketchbook pages filled with armpits. it's really easy to not get very detailed whenever you're doing full body studies

daily studies, wish i had drawn more.....going to try to start >>6154226 tomorrow

>>6154226
gimme

>>6154621
i'll be your idea guy how's a 25-75 split sound

>>6154853
I just wanna know what to draw to gain a respectable number of followers

>>6154835
How old are you?

trying to tap into the coomer gains.
I always avoided tracing because I thought I wouldn't get much from it, but I must say it's a really good way to learn how other artists do things

>rendering
>try to use flat colors + shade colors and highlights like in cell shading
>looks weird
>use just flat colors
>also weird and bland
>go "colored like with a pencil"
>not sure if good idea, can be time-consuming
>professional, realistic shading
>didn't learn it yet, probably time consuming as hell
>the only time it looks "good" it's when I just good white&black

Help. The only idea that come to mind is to color only parts of the picture, maybe some sort of color highlights to give an idea how it is supposed to look.

>>6155001
post it

>>6155002

>>6149716

>>6153060
LMAO WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT HAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAHAHAHA LOLL ROFL LOL KILL ME HAHAHA

>>6152893

just tried drawing >>6153158, what is so wrong? It took me about 10min, didnt put too much effort.

>>6155006
lightsource from the back but the front is lit up this shits too complex for me fuck you

>>6155060
>waaahh why do i suck?!?
>i didn’t really try by the way teehee :)
bitch

>>6155079
your character has zero structure, focus on that first

>>6155025
BIGGER

>>6155006
This picture has problems greater than just coloring
>>6155079
What is a fill light

>>6155079
>>6155085
Lighting is bad, I admit. I'm not even sure how I missed it, maybe because it was a last thing I added. Anatomy is wonky, but I know that I can deal with it with more studying.
Coloring is more of subjective thing and I'm not sure how to handle it. I have an idea for unorthodox method, but I would prefer to look for more standard methods.

>>6155088
BEGGER*

>>6155079
Keep it up bro, i am like 20 lvls above you but i still don't try to draw stuff like that, i live in the comfort zone, you are gonna progress fast if you don't stop.

>>6155127
Are you talking to me who drew it or to the guy who shaded it?

tried the Picasso upside down guy and got this, while drawing without a ruler and without a solid surface beneath the paper (used my leg). does this mean that i dont have symbol drawing?

>>6155088
Here's a larger version

>>6155132
Yes.

>>6155146
Fair enough.

>>6154331
Not the exact ones I was using, but here's a few. I was given the skull references for a class and I'm not sure where my teacher got them - but as the other anon said you can get them anywhere. If you're okay with paying a bit, you can even go to art station and get a large set. But you can get more than enough for free.

>>6155168
>>6154331
Ah sorry, also here's the ones I was using put into one image. It's too big for here so:

https://files.catbox.moe/te4pjk.jpg

>>6155127
>>6155146
By the way, thank you for your kind words, it means a lot to me.

How come there's no draw thread up? What happened while I was away /ic/?

>>6154621
I have a folder of random references that I just pull out from when I don't know what to draw. Here's one

>>6153060
Bargues m8.

>>6152901
You and god know you're cheating

>>6155134
No.

>>6155060
>what is so wrong?
> didnt put too much effort.

>>6154641
Fool around harder with trying different hues & saturations in your shadows. Just go crazy man, looks kinda sterile with those desat purples.

>>6154616
Post finished stuff and your ref for that drawing and I'll tell you what to do better.

Stopped working on it for a couple of weeks while I worked on other things, but I’m translating the emotions of Loomis into these characters I’m working on drawing for that faggy project I was working on.

Translating the tips from Loomis over to the OG artstyle takes a few goes and using refrences in the show somewhat, but the emotion’s definitely improving. The problem is the ears and hair not having a good ref to draw from, the face seems too round when I try to copy the loomis ball and pieces into the creation, and I can’t get the proportions exact, partly because all we have animation wise to work with is a reference with a hat on, (since you know, background character). I know the back of the head would look different than in my traced version of the sheet with hair, I guess I should redo that…

I can feel it all improving I just still hate that what’s going on in my brain isn’t coming out on the paper. Also, how the hell do you draw little details by moving your shoulder, it feels wrong when I’m not shading in stuff

Kind of obvious, but top’s the real ref

That's a long neck
Everything else looks good

>>6155215
Oh right the actual question

When making the proportions on the face in proportion and placement with each other, how do you make sure they are, if there isn’t a visual reference to work from before?

>>6155220
Meant for >>6155201

bftjktss3th

>>6155194
>cheating
I don't really care at that point
but now i just want to make a world i had thought about for a good year

>>6155215
>how the hell do you draw little details by moving your shoulder
I tend to use my wrist for detail work or drawing complex shapes that require finer motor control. Drawing from the shoulder is better suited to gesture and large strokes.

>>6155228
You make a reference? That's why animators have character sheets.

>>6155230
Thanks.

>>6155228
Like I’m gonna have to draw so much of this bitch, and this is all that’s ever been made of her and I don’t know what to draw for her back or how to think of what to draw for them.

I mean I get just the backside of the uniform, but it’s still feeling like there’s not a lot to work on for this character.

https://youtu.be/lUxVeKOyXew 20 seconds in is all the character got in the real show (keeping the reference colors because the canon palate looks dumber) so it’s not a lot to work with.

I mean, I gotta figure it out, yeah, she’s got this whole powerset with these stretchy shadow limbs, and I figured she’s got a mouth behind the bone jaw neckpiece, but… I don’t know it feels intimidating to have to create a reference like this, and, I’m not sure how to go about it.

>>6155260
forgot pic of course.

>>6155250
>I tend to use my wrist for detail work or drawing complex shapes that require finer motor control. Drawing from the shoulder is better suited to gesture and large strokes.
Oh, well okay then I guess I was doing it right in the end.
>make a character sheet
I guess this is one of those ‘just quit being anxious and do it’ things… fuck though I’m paranoid about it and I can’t really express why…

Okay, I think, I’m worried about not just drawing from the show’s reference, because then it’s not a derivative of something established as their quality, but it came from me, and… I suck? Like, I’m not Disney quality and now I’m not even drawing from Disney quality so it’s gonna come out wrong. I’ve got an OC I haven’t drawn specifically for this reason, I don’t know if I can make him the right amount of distinction for the character, without making him too busy to draw over and over and over.

Although typing it all out I feel like this is just my anxiety and self-hatred coming out, and I should stop worrying about now being as good as Matheiu Cousin out the gate and draw…

>>6152893
>unhappy with finished drawing
>flip it horizontally
>instantly better

wtf?

>>6154065
How do I make the ass appear more ass like

>>6153331
>>6153892
>You have to do shading, crosshatching, hard/soft edges, foreshorten the face features, thicken lines on one side. One of these or mix. Just copy some manga to see how they do it. TLDR drawing faces is really hard even with reference
Thanks. I guess I will keep doing it until I can draw both sides of the face and make it not look like two different characters before I move on to learn different angles and other stuff.
I did another one and I think it's a little better but I'll look more into manga stuff as you said.

>>6155314
>Find a mirror
>Look at face
Draw what you see

My biggest gripe in my decade of drawing is that i never seem to stay consistant with my advancement in art. one day i am on top of the world, the other i am just MSpaint teir.

yet i find myself leagues behind the likes of Taran fiddler or the people i look up. and i ask myself where i am going wrong and what sort of mental barriers i struggle with.

the worst thing i struggle with is the mental barriers i dont see, and even then, i find myself less motivated to draw. how can i break out of this cycle?

>>6155359
Improvement isn’t consistent, it’s just a general upward trend in quality. What you’re experiencing is what everyone experiences

>>6155362
i know, but still, i have been drawing for years. and i am not where i am right now. i wanna draw like taran fiddler or xxsparcoxx. and even with the tutorials and prompts. i still feel like i am hitting walls.

more harpy

>>6155367
Is this >>6155359 your drawing?

>>6155375
Imagine asking this

>>6155375
fucking obviously. also that came from a /tg/ drawthread.

Urgent help!
or my mind will break!

>>6155359
>decade of drawing
I refuse to believe that, are you still studying? Maybe other parts of your life has your attention and focus and that's totally normal.

>>6155367
>i wanna draw like <insert artist name>
Well, have you tried drawing like them?

>>6152893
day 1 of learning to draw. strictly just want to learn characters so starting w/ loomis heads. Watched a good 2-3 hours of youtube videos from proko and mark burn(sp?) or something and this is what I have. I realize it's literally day 1, but I feel these are all "off" somehow. plz critique

>>6155388
you can say that, indeed. I have real life stresses that should not be. and got me nowhere or anywhere productive. let alone an income.

>>6155389
yes.....but with unsatisfactory results.

>>6155384
It's very cartoony, I'm not sure what you're looking for.

>>6155397
Try more.

>>6155389
contuation of this: >>6155397
my biggest issue is that.....I dont know where to start. I used to aim to be like Kazecat until that fell out. I am still struggling to find out where to start. how to do it and the likes. let alone finding the right tutorial. so far, the only closest "lineless work" i have made is a fanwork of the caretaker EATEOT album

>>6155392
not bad looks like you have the anatomy mostly correct, I would advise drawing bigger and work more on the different angles head shots.

>>6155397
>unsatisfactory results
Yes, that's the case for everone.
>>6155402
Most people start by trying to emulate their favorite artists. Find a piece that speaks to you, and try to reproduce it to the best of your ability. When you are finished, compare your version with the original. See how it differs. See how it is similar.

>>6155409
i suppose. but i think i should probably throw some tutorials on there for good measures. like i said, i am only learning how to take risks.

>>6155358

>>6155411
>says they want to take risks
>also wants some tutorials just to be safe
?????
Just draw, anon.

I'm female btw

>>6155411
>>6155402
>>6155359
Anon let me be honest with you - there's no form, it's flat. You don't just need some tutorials, you need to learn the fundamentals if you want to draw like Fiddler. There is no other way to learn how to draw. Draw what you see and learn to construct. Learn figure drawing, some anatomy. Learn perspective. And keep drawing.

You must keep drawing - there is no other way.

>>6155314
it looks fine imo, but you just need to draw more if you want to get better. Try copying others artists that would also help

>>6155400
this but with fat legs and perky butt

i just want to quit my job bros

>>6153313
302 KB

Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 32

God damn does clothing take me a long time. Oh well, I'll get the hang of it eventually.

>>6155436
Invest in a meme stock on /biz/. Remember to buy high and sell low.

>>6155422
well then....I need to relearn the fundementals again. suppose you can show me? like how to say learn to loosen up my lines?

>>6155442
You have autism, you're incapable of ever making it or learning fundamentals. I mean this unironically, Royce the Arctic Fox.

>>6155443
you have anything other than A-logging? at least i am trying to better improve here. let alone study for a new trade.

>>6155417
Reminds of those grotesque illustrations in old WotD books.

>>6155442
>Again
Not again, but for the first time. Realize that you've been fooling yourself if you think you learned the fundamentals.

I'm learning the face proportions right now and I noticed that literally nobody has the eyes in the middle of the face, for drawing a random face from imagination it can be useful knoweledge but for drawing a self portrait or someone else face is a bit useless.

Anyone gonna pop a new thread?

>>6155510
How about I pop your cherry ;)

>>6155431
Oh yeah all my sketches start out like that. I'm drawing on a phone so I basically have to turd polish and line refine until I'm done. I can do without the polish for that one because I'm really just trying to practice anatomy and perspective. My goal is one to two finished drawings a week but I often don't finish and just start on something else. Here's one I did a while back but never completed

>>6154891
20, why

>>6155359
I am very similar like you I have been drawing for like 15 years now and I basically have no idea of what am I doing, I have done the "fundamental" exercises several times and still don't get it how they are supposed to help, plus perspective just makes no sense in my brain.

It's coming along. Probably 85% of the way there but I fear I've stared at it for too long and can't see the flaws anymore.

>>6155450
Royce, I know that you are trying. I'm not crabbing I'm telling you it's futile. Your efforts and time and being wasted, you are literally incapable on a neurological level. Either enjoy what you are drawing now or spend your time on something that you do enjoy. I've come across many like you and theres just something in the way your brain is wired. Maybe it's a benefit in other fields but not art, Royce.

>>6155581
Based as fuck drawing. I'm a pleb so I can't give any advice but I think it's cool

>>6155619
Thank you sir.

>>6155450
What he >>6155611 is saying is correct, don't believe the practice & fundies retards, is a physiological issue I have the same issue, is like "practicing how to be taller" you either have it or you don't, is completely genetic and has to do with how our brains were formed and the genetics of our ancestors.

>>6155359
it's because you have zero tastes

>>6155637
I mean... If you're satisfied with the cartoony look you have going, then it's fine to just draw for fun.

>>6155637
you can't see the ass cheaks from this angle, you coomer freak

>>6155652
not only that, where the fuck is her neck?

Need to play more with hues, like >>6155194
said, and push the contrast, but I think it's salvageable.
>>6155581
Fucking awesome, friend. It's really about how much detail you want to put in now. Maybe make the lights lighter in the foreground, to give it a different value range from the bg.

>>6153920
if youre going for a topdown angle, then the problem i see isnt the legs. the top part of the body needs to be more angled

>>6155720
Thank you. I will definitely try to bring the values in the foreground up a bit.

I'm sick of drawing with relatively normal "realistic" proportions. It feels so bland and generic. How do people develop more cartoony proportions and interesting styles?

>>6155384
>>6155572
>>6155637
The thing is, that perspective and anatomy make no sense and logic has left the building in these.

>>6155384
>>6155572
>>6155637
I would honestly kill myself if after 15 years of drawing, my art looked like this. Weird pedophilic cartoon coom shit. If you told me you were drawing for 3 months I'd believe it.

......aaaaand this thread is offically dead and done.

>>6155812
if it wasn't weird pedophilic cartoon coom shit.
it would just be cartoon shit.

>>6155835
Which would be a massive upgrade.

>>6155727
Yeah I noticed that after 200 tries lol. I'll chalk it up as a failure

>>6155866
It still requires cero skill...

>>6154589
wouldn't a giant testicle get softer light becuause of its size? i tried to put hard edges on the parts the thinner, tapering parts or in cast shadows

Can you train creativity?
I have been practising drawing few years by by mostly deconstructing and redrawing art work I like but when ever I try to create something original that I could call my own work it ends up coming out like crap.
I really like doing character drawing and I have been trying to learn how to do good dynamic poses and better composition but my design are always messy and lackluster

>>6155891
Pyw

>>6154544
it's the external oblique overtop the bottom of the ribcage

>>6156010
Only begtards ask people to post their work. It’s a cope for your incompetence

>>6156169
The NoDraw is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a crab, beglet, schitzo, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But ask him to post his work and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>6155439
Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 33

More clothes, next time will be hats.

How do I learn to eyeball vanishing points? I'm not supposed to contruct the vanishing lines every single time right? They are off the page most of the time anyway. At least in portraits.
Should I just draw them as if I'm looking at the object from very far away and keep all lines parallel?
Are there any exercises to improve perspective eyeballing?

>>6156423
You don't need to draw a horizon line for every picture. It comes in handy when composing a picture with multiple subjects, but I don't know how useful it would be for a portrait. If you needed to foreshorten a limb or something, I would just keep in mind that things closer to the viewer appear larger than normal, and things further away from the viewer appear smaller than normal.

>>6156423
This is what I dont get about perspective the vanishing points are always far far away fron the page and there are several of them.

>>6156519
So in a portrait do I just draw all lines parallel?

starting doing black/white/gray illustration with water color

>>6156742
same style as this

Quick mouse drawing, excuse the chickenscratch.
But perspective wise I still struggle so much with cubes, rotations, placement on the same elevation/horizon line.

It's killing me because I've grinded it so much

My eyesight keeps getting worse and worse.

How do I improve my accuracy? Even when I am literally tracing I am unable to trace accurately. My strokes just never follow the line. Sometimes I start the line in same wrong angle six times or seven times in a row, i don't understand what i am doing wrong. And curves are downright impossible to trace. I can't focus on line weight, form and other things. I am wasting so much time redoing. I can't draw hair.

I noticed that my tablet makes everything i draw bigger on the screen.

>>6156876
get some warmups and do it before you draw

>>6156230
kek

Sometimes you feel like scribbling before you doodle.

drew this today. haven't drawn in months

>>6156854
Hype. Usin ref?

>>6157021
Yes sir, it's from an anatomy book by tomfoxdraws

Been on and off again procrastinating and struggling with motivation. I’m getting somewhere from 20-60 minutes/day in on a good day.

Any tips for motivation? I’m learning very slowly and threw out my oldest sketchbooks by mistake so I can’t compare, but my best piece in February is basically as good as my best now.

>>6157093
Ditch motivation and build discipline.

Ended up wasting a lot of time tweaking things and adjusting values because I can't get my goddamn monitor calibration to match my tablet.
>>6157096
This. Whenever you don't feel like drawing, force yourself to draw.

How about this one is is possible to fix this piece of garbage or is it worthless?

>>6157110
Better, but you gotta work that hueshift into all levels of the gradation/value shift. Right now you just slapped it in the darkest spots. Ok though, Wouldn’t expect you to do a repaint, which is what my description requires. Next time broski. Maybe try complements and their adjacent colors though. Green in the blue doesn’t work.

>>6157014
another. I have never really done full body, and I know this is weak but pushing myself to at least do it made me feel better.

I tried anons

>>6157201
weegi

>>6157201
The L on his cap is on backwards

hey

>>6157213
weegee
>>6157214
I know

>>6157218
sup babe

>>6157232
>>6157232
>>6157232
new