/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6132362
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are
Here.

ALWAYS avoid XP-Pen and Huion. They are both garbage and basically the same brand.

Can i run PC without monitors, but with display tablet?

>>6132365

>>6132365
.

Just tell me wich screen tablet can I buy on a budget

>>6132397
i don't see why not, don't have a screen tab to try for myself though

>>6132494
define a budget
first gen ipad pros are cheap

>>6132498
Around 300-400 €

I'd rather stick to an actual tablet since I've bought CPS and I dont want to switch to another software (procreate) or having to pay monthly for something I already have.

>>6132500
huion kamvas 16

>>6132502
but OP says to avoid Huion and XP-Pen?

>>6132506
op is retarded

>>6132500
>300-400 €
Fairly sure that's enough for the newest models of huion or xppen's 16 inchers. Older, used cintiq models could be around that price too if you don't trust the chinese
Also yeah op is retarded

How is the Galaxy Tab S8+ as something straightforward to use for my PC? I want a drawing tablet that I don't have to worry about taking up a ton of space or plugging into an outlet.
do the apps for connecting it (like superdisplay) actually good for usage?

>>6132529
If you've got the money, yes it's a great tablet and superdisplay works well.

>>6132529
Is it plugguble to pc? I have regular s8 but i just use it for sketching

>>6132531
tnx
>>6132534
I'd assume. maybe I should double-check. I just assumed with that app being a thing

>>6132541
I know you can use it as second monitore i'm just not sure about pen working as intended

Reposting the tablet survey in this thread. If you can be sure to fill it out so newbie anons can get an idea as to what artists around here use:
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>>6132551
>no option for multiple tablets
>everyone here is poor
very sad.

>>6132551
Why didn't you let make multiple choices nigger?

I have a huion h1060p for 70euro or something like that, side buttons can randomly work like shit, manual is written in retarded and their website advises buying a new tablet if you have any issues.
But desu everything else works amazing and I'm happy to have a decent throwaway tablet.

>>6132559
>>6132560
>i'm so mad because i'm special

>>6132678

>>6132678
it's a useless survey if you have multiple tablets, which a lot of people do.
I primarily use my note 10+, an ipad, and a huion display tablet

>>6132559
>>6132560
>>6132686
I thought about making the survey more refined (specific tablets, multi choice), but I decided against it so the results wouldn't be watered down too much. If you have a unique set up I'd suggest choosing 'other' and elaborating there.

What screen tablet actually outputs accurate colours/contrast so I dont have to check another fucking screen to make sure my values/colours are on the right track?

>>6132548
It basically mirrors or extends the display of your computer to your tablet and reads any input from your tablet like touch and pen pressure

>>6132474
>>6132480
>ching chong resorting to twitter caption memes again
Sorry idiot, you're not convincing anyone.

Just got the cintiq 16 today.
its nice.
i'm going to be drawing deviant art tier anime trash on it. sorry poorfags

Just got a Galaxy Tab 7A tablet for free, is this thing even worthwhile for attempting to draw on (no S-pen)? Or should i just use it for porn?

On my iPad Pro I get wavy lines when I draw straight, diagonal lines slowly.

I think its because of the matte screen protector I applied. I remember it was fine when there was no protector. Is this just always going to be a problem if there is some kind of sheet between the battery powered pen and the display?

i've decided to go digital from trad and bought a intuos pro m the other day.
i'm struggling to even make the basic sketch, is it normal?

>>6133146
Yeah it'll take a few weeks before you get used to the disconnect.
Once you get used to it there's a few benefits though. The 2 big ones for me
>posture
you can look straight at your screen instead of down which saves your back in the long run.
>you're hand
once you get used to drawing on the intuos and try going back to trad or a screen tablet, you realize how annoying your hand is and how often its in the way of your drawing.

just keep at it and keep doing sketches, it'll be awhile before its as natural as trad sketching.

>>6133150
>you realize how annoying your hand is and how often its in the way of your drawing.
I've been exclusively using screenless tablets for the past decade and recently I tried drawing on a screen and it was mindblowing how much faster I got when I don't have to ctrl+z every stroke

>>6133176
I think they both have benefits, screens being way more natural.
But its so annoying having my hand cover up half my drawing.

>>6133180
have a small window in the corner of your page displaying your finished piece while you work on finer detail. That way your hand covering anything is irrelevant.

>>6133180
>But its so annoying having my hand cover up half my drawing.
I cant be the only one who thinks this argument is absolutely retarded as shit.
I mean, literally EVERYONE before screenless tablets were a thing had their hand obscuring a bit of the drawing, no matter what medium were they using (pencil on paper, ballpen, brush of any kind)
And that didnt stop them from creating beautiful masterpieces.

Imagine da Vinci whining 'b-but its hard cuz my hand covers a bit of the paper ;_; '

L M A O
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I have a bit of money to spend and Im unironically considering getting a brand new Ipad (10.2 inches)
Afaik Procreate is a pretty, pretty good drawing app but Im kinda scared I'll end up losing functionalities (I come from CPS)

Has anyone transitioned from Windows+CSP to Ipad+Procreate? How did it go?
Or maybe I should just buy a decent screen tablet and ditch the Ipad idea?

Cintiq Pro 24 updated hardware WHEN

MY MONEY IS WAITING, WACOM

>>6133451
My friend uses both, PC at home and iPad when out or for quick and easy sketches. Procreate is great for a mobile app but if you're comparing it to CSP it's missing a bunch of features and your layers and shit are limited by the iPad's RAM. Depends what you want to use it for.

>>6133440
I don't get the argument anyway
You're not actively drawing where your hand is covering

>>6133451
I went from a surface pro 3 to an iPad pro
csp is a superior program, but I didn't have that much difficulty transitioning to procreate. I would say I only really missed csp for the first few days while I got used to a new ui.

>>6133440
Having a negative doesn't mean it's literally impossible to draw.
It's just one of the benefits of a screenless tablet that it takes away that minor annoyance.

There's plenty of issues with trad work that makes it a bitch to work with, it doesn't make it impossible it's just an objective negative thing to have to work with.

Procreate only flaws are limited layers and resize/transform loses a lot of quality

>>6132500
Intuos pro. don't listen to OP. Don't listen to chang. Listen to me.

>>6133724
Anon if Im to spend money its on something that has a screen.

Are IPads just a cope or are they actually good?

>>6133762
with apple pencil it's really good

>>6133762
Wouldn't necessarily use it as main tablet but it's fine for sketches

>>6133797
Which one of them is the best value for the money? Air 2022 is like 600 euro here.

>>6133798
Air M1 is fine as long as don't need big screen
But apple pencil is bought seperately

>>6133719
>limited layers
How many layers are you guys using? I've never run into this problem with around 50 layers for a piece

>>6133798
Buy a used pro 12.9. Anything else is retarded and throw away money.

>>6133818
The new one or older model?

>>6133818
>refurb 11 inch pro 128gb (2020): $900
>new air 5 256gb (2022): $1100
you havent told me why a pro and not an air yet
>12.9
no i want an 11 incher
>used
no i will not touch other peoples cumstains

>>6133878
>no I'm stupid

>>6133845
Any will do, but 3rd gen and later preferably for the wireless charging and more readily available screen protectors. Having to plug in the pencil isn't that big of a deal if you can't afford a newer one though.

Just bought Huion tablet with screen.
Will it be harder to connect to PC compared to screenless wacom(1 usb slot)?
It seems like i need to connect it to power+usb3+hdmi

>>6133980
https://support.huion.com/en/support/solutions/articles/44002186189-how-do-i-connect-the-huion-kamvas-pro-16-4k-kamvas-pro-16-plus-4k-to-my-computer-
You have 2 options.

>>6133127
Anyone?

>>6133883
>no u

Tested S8 as a second monitor tablet for pc
Works good to me atleast
Unfortunately i could only connect it to my laptop with no gpu so i cannot tell how good it will perfrom since PS was laggy even with regular tablet
gotta tesst CSP though maybe it will work ok
SAI didn't recognize pen pressure so if you work in sai i ll tell you do more research

>>6134202
Forgor pic

>>6133845
you may have to get an m1 in a few years.
the big updates for ipad now are m1+exclusive

>>6134202
Pen pressure didn't work in csp too until i turned off wintab whing or whatever
Didn't help in sai though
So yeah it works acceptable but i would recommend it only if you are already have samsung tablet
Otherwise buy just a regular screen tablet like huion

>>6134202
Did you use USB or wireless? There's this app called SuperDisplay or something like that, supposedly works great.

How do I clean the screen of a galaxy tab?

>>6134578
the same way you clean any other screen?

>>6134649
Which is..?

>>6134658
Spit on it wipe it down with the inside of your shirt.

>The 2022 version of S6 lite actually uses a proper SoC
Nice, I guess I will get one

>>6134258
>>6134202
SAI works in mirror mode but not in extended mode for me

>>6134733
Also looking around, seems like SAI 2 has an option to switch from wintab API to the new API (windows ink) that are used in windows tablet PCs, so I think it should work even extended mode on it by using that option, similar to how you can switch from wintab service to tablet pc mode in CSP and from wintab to Windows Ink in Blender, which is they way for it to work for both. I don't have access to SAI 2 to try it though, since the only copy of SAI I have was the pirated one I downloaded years ago, it lacks so many things I use in CSP, so I don't bother with it anymore.

>>6132502
this

Samsung tablet owners I need your help.

In October I purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab s7 FE that came with an S Pen.
Fast forward to now and the pen nib is absolutely destroyed. I've looked on the internet for official Samsung replacements but I found nothing. I've also looked for unofficial pen nibs replacements but I have no idea what will work for drawing and what won't.
If someone could help me it would be super fucking appreciated since I just want to get back to drawing reeee

>>6132849
High end huion kamvas pros and wacom pros. Most xp pros are good but you have to make sure, some of them have bad contrast ratios cause theyee fucking ancient.

>>6135405
Hey, any pen that is compatible with the Wacom one can be used with your tablet. You can also use any other s-pen. Take your pick, there are some good ones out there. If you want a list look at wacom one stylus compatability on their website, there's one on there.

You can at least buy extra nibs for those.

>>6135415
Thank you so, so much anon!!! I had no idea you could use a totally different pen.
This one should work fine, right?
https://amzn.eu/d/3JQV851

>>6135411
Cheers anon. Good to know the high end market isn't complete shit at this time.

what are some drawing gloves that will stop my hand from being detected? I'm planning on getting a stylus and some gloves to trace jpgs into svgs and the only large touchscreen I have doesn't have any kind of palm rejection.

How do you guys put away screen tablets when your not using them?
My old intuos was small enough I can just casually toss it under my tablet, but the bigger screen ones are too large and the cabling makes it a pain. Currently just sliding it under one of my other monitors but there's not a lot of squeezing room there.

>>6136555
http://www.dokiwear.com/
these are the only gloves I've tried that actually do anything for palm rejection. I'd suggest the mazo v2 or v3. first ones were okay, but 2nd are better.

hi thread. i was gifted a galaxy tab s7 12 incher. I'm having a great time with it so far but how do i minimize bad posture? how should i arrange it on my desk? i have a cover with a stand but i find the angle makes me crane my neck and my regular desk is low and it makes my shoulder hurt if i use it like that. any ideas?

TIA

>>6136612
Mount it on a wall and draw on it while standing straight

>>6136610
thanks

>>6132362
Apple pencil feels great for light touches but the heavy pressure ranges feel random and unresponsive

>>6132506
i don't know about XP-Pen but Huion is known for having terrible driver issues. DO NOT update your drivers at all cost

>>6136733
Huion drivers are fine you fucking jew. It's wacom that has a reputation for amd-tier drivers. Stop coping, throw out your shitty faggot wacom tablet and buy literally any other brand aside from that overpriced premium faggot garbage.

>>6132551
>Samsung tablets are second only to Wacom screenless tablets

12.9 inch m1 iPad pro with 2nd gen Apple Pencilbros... where did it all go wrong

>>6133123
Have you tried those capacitative stylus pens with plastic discs on the end? They're alright but you won't have pressure-reliant functions. You could get away with a more painterly style or linework with uniform thickness

>>6133127
Might want to get that checkedthe apple pencils aren't supposed to have any jitter. What app/s are you using?

>>6136624
Based easel chad

Anyone have a Cintiq 22?
Thinking about upgrading to it from my Ugee 1910b and I'm wondering if there's any issues with it I should know.

I can get one of the fancy Galaxy tablets for big discount but every review I see is saying Apple is better. What would you do?

>>6132551

I am not participating in your small circlejerk OP/chang.

I remember my friend bought cintiq pro and couldn't connect it because it had only mini display port cabel or something like that
Is it still a thing?

my xp-pen 15.6 is still going strong

honestly i think budget tablets are underrated as fuck. i can't see myself upgrading until this this breaks if that ever happens. and even then i'll probably just end up buying another budget tablet but a larger one

>>6137174
You can just use one USB C cable for both graphics and digitizer data on modern models
As long as your computer has a C port that also sends graphics signal (Display Port alternate mode)

>>6137167
I think both tablets are equally good hardware wise, it's just the software that make or break it for a lot of people. While CSP has more features, Procreate is made for the ipad and isn't a fucking subscription service. I know android has a couple more drawing apps but barely anyone talks about them.

>>6137173
I'm 100% not affiliated with the OP in any way. Just wanted to help out the anons here.

>>6137346
Infinite painter on Android is pretty neat

I have a huion kamvas pro 16 and i want to buy another 13 inch one just to keep the UI there. Do anyone knows if you can connect two huion tablets at the same time? I have a cintiq connected and they both work fine but maybe because they both have different drivers.

>>6137277
Well i don't
Gotta stick to my huion i guess

>>6132362
>>Intuos 3
>Best screenless tablet. Look for one on Craigslist or Ebay.
Alright so, I was looking for a tablet to replace my XP-Pen, and I've asked for a few threads what /ic/ actually THOUGHT about the Intuos 3 but nobody replied to me. So I couldn't tell if this was a meme or a real thing.

I've had it for a day and my review is as follows:
Despite this thing being old as fuck and obviously used, after cleaning it up (I figure people used tape on it or something) it feels quite nice. The pen feels way more durable than the XP-Pen's I owned previously and the shortcut buttons on the tablet and pen all feel great and function without problem. Sometimes when I click with the pen it'll double-click, and I can't tell if that's an issue with sensitivity or the pen itself.

The software is pretty good, with XP-Pen I was using Pentablet but the Intuos 3's drivers are nice and easy to figure out for a fucking retard like me. An issue I found is that, curiously, pressure sensitivity will not work unless Windows Ink is enabled in the driver, and my art program CSP is set to "Tablet PC" mode.

The two biggest issues I have with the tablet are as follows:
The surface is fucking smooth as shit, there's no bite at all so I feel like I'm lacking a little control. I'll probably tape some paper onto it but my concern is wearing out the nib and I don't think you can replace the nib on a pen like this.
The aspect ratio on the tablet is a lot closer to 4:3 than 16:9 so reducing the active area on the tablet's drawing surface to align with the aspect ratio on my monitor means worse resolution, and I could tell that my lines had just the littlest bit of wave in them. If I finagle with settings I'm sure this could also be remedied.

In general I still think this was an overall upgrade over the XP-Pen even if this is a way older tablet but I'm skeptical it's really the "best" and not just "a pretty good tablet that's extremely cheap used."

>>6132551
fuckin lol N=13 respondents. That doesn't even come close to a statistic.

>>6138130
the whole point is that you continue posting it every thread to get more votes so it is an actual statistic you fucking retard.
It's over 40 now.
I think disallowing multiple options is the dumbest part though, since a lot of people that take digital art at all seriously have multiple tablets. At the very least one to use on the go (implying anyone here actually leaves their house) and one on their computer.

>>6138133
Since there's seem to be a demand for a more thorough poll, should I just re-make this as a google form doc or something similar?
I could do this, but it might take awhile before it's ready.

>>6137747
Well, they also provide HDMI too
Basically they give you three options to connect usb-c or dp+usb or hdmi+usb
Even the new Huion models can be connected through a single usb-c cable and I heard the unit generates less heat if you connect it this way

the table can adjust in height to a standing desk and the wooden slanted thing holding up my cintiq was made by my dad :)

>>6138400
Based supportive dad

>>6138400
wow cool but wtf why don't you use an actual comfy office chair? LOL how is your back and ass?

>>6138400
>Have icons of jesus or qhatever
>draws cunnyies and furry prolapse porn all day

>>6137738
Don't ignore pls immabout to make a purchase xd

>>6138426
Why nigga? Why do you need to have ui on seperate tablet

>>6138432
Becasue csp has so many shit and I use it all, a single screen is not enough. Especially if you have a 16 inch tablet.

And for those looking for an answer, I guess it does but you can only use a tablet who shares the same pen.

>>6138467
Doesn't CSP have a companion app where you can access tools from your phone and it syncs with the main app on your PC/Tablet?
Surely it doesn't cover all the features but you should be able to free some space

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH im gonna go insane, I dont know what to buy

> Kamvas 16 2021 16.5 inches -> 418€
> Kamvas pro 16 16.5 inches -> 354€
> XP-Pen Artist 22 (2n gen) 21.5 inches -> 500€
> XP-Pen Artist 16.5 Pro 16.5 inches -> 400 €

>a completely different screen tablet that you anons consider to be better ?
>or even some galaxy tab or some shit ??

Im so fucking lost, I have no idea what to do or buy

>>6137182
Anything you can say about it? I'm planning on getting it soon and would love to hear your thoughts on it if it's that good as a budget one.

>>6138556

>Wacom One 13.3 inches -> 373€
>Huion Kamvas 20 19.5 inches -> 376€
>Ipad 2021 10.2 inches -> 355€ (+129 apple pencil)

Honestly I dont even know whats a good midsize tablet so I have no clue what upper and lower limit screen sizes should I be looking at

>>6135431
>https://amzn.eu/d/3JQV851
Looks good

>>6138538
I do use it; mostly for zoom and rotate stuff.

do you draw in portrait or landscape?
I use an ipad and draw exclusively in portrait mode, but used to draw exclusively in landscape when I drew with a surface pro. I think largely just because of the UI differences between procreate and CSP/photoshop

>>6132397
Yes. At the end of the day, they're just computer monitors that you draw on.

>>6132577
Nice. I used an h610 pro back in like 2015 for 60 dollars. Lasted me for several years before I finally upgraded to a display tablet. I kinda miss that janky thing. I got a hell of a lot of mileage out of it for the price.

>>6138556
>>6138564
Depends, do you like to draw in front of your computer or are you more mobile? What exactly are you looking for?

Look into Tab S6 Lite (2022 ver.), really good entry android tablet to draw on.

If you prefer a screen tablet then of those I'd go for the Kamvas 16 at that price, the new XP Pen Artist 12 also seems pretty good.

Look up Teoh Yie Chie on YT and do a search for a tablet you have interest in. He has reviewed most of them.

>>6133878
Use swappa or apple refurb store. Apple refurb store might be a little pricer but you get something that is 99% like new and comes with a warranty.

>>6139531
Im looking to transition from traditional to digital.
I've tried a screenless tablet and I cant get the hang of it so I dont mind spending a bit more to get a more similar experience to traditional drawing.

I draw in the same table (a big one) where I have my computer so thats no trouble.
Mobility would be nice but its by no means mandatory.

Whats the difference between S7FE and the normal S7? The FE version is cheaper and bigger, is there something I don't know?

>>6140812
That's pretty much it. The chipset on the S7 FE is weaker as well. Still more than enough for drawing though. If you do get the FE, the wifi-only version has a more powerful chip than the 5g version (for some reason known only to Samsung).

Oh yeah, the S7 FE has a 60 hz LCD screen vs the 120 hz OLED on the S7

is it normal to feel like you've lost all of your dexterity swapping between tablets? I feel like I'm at like 10 percent of my old skill overnight

I'm a professional artist who normally uses traditional mediums and I'm looking for a new tablet to streamline the drawing and sketching process and get into new stuff. My budget is basically unlimited for this (will write it off as a work expense) so can anyone suggest a good upgrade for my old cintiq companion hybrid that just isn't cutting it anymore and was never really my favorite thing? I was considering an iPad pro, but I'd be open to cintiq products as well if they've improved since then. I know a couple people who liked their huions too so it initially seemed like a good budget option. Can I get any honest reviews and suggestions in here?

>>6141233
Never use a tablet computer for a drawing tablet. I started with an ipad and wanted to fuckin kill myself. Would rather all my drawings be done on sticky notes and uploaded as shitty photos I took on my hundred dollar motorola than ever use an ipad for drawing again.

are you opposed to using screenless drawing tablets?

>>6141239
Yes I need a screen and I can't be tied to my desk either. I have to go places to work and meet with people and only have a 10 year old MacBook for my computer right now which is starting to not cut it too but that's a bigger issue I'd like to resolve separately.

>>6141239
what's wrong with drawing on an ipad? even before they made the apple pencil, drawing with a generic stylus was fine.

>>6141233
What don't you like about your cintiq companion hybrid?
some current offerings if you're just looking for a newer tablet would be
mobilestudio pro
ipad pro
surface pro 8 (personally I didn't like the drawing experience on my old surface pro 3, but it might be improved since then)
galaxy tab s8+

Personally I like my ipad a lot, and know a lot of professional artists use them as well

>>6141239
Can you elaborate on the iPad opinion? Why is it so bad?

>>6141291
Specifically the software was always just slow straight out the box when I got it. It was and is also prone to crashing. And I got the more powerful model even. I got some nice apps to use on it while it was in tablet mode as opposed to hooked up to the computer and I actually really enjoyed those apps and then I could transfer sketches to any program on my Mac which was nice, if I needed to. Since then it's not even supported anymore and you have to pull some bullshit to update it I guess which I don't care to do because I suck at computers and only have an old MacBook like I said. Basically that but better sounds great but it also seems cumbersome if it's a full windows thing. Even if I could use programs that people enjoy like krita. Maybe an ipad with procreate or a similar app would work just as well for me, then I could send it to Photoshop or whatever but it's not like I could use the iPad hooked up to the actual computer like that anyway which is frustrating. This is why I liked the idea of the hybrid but it just never worked for me.

>>6133719
wait, if you transform shit in procreate you lose quality? is that real? how shitty the program can be to do that?

>>6141392
isn't that the case with literally anything that's not a vector?

>>6141403
Yes

>>6141362
nta, but imo the apple pencil is too heavy and fatiguing to use, and its nib/tip feels absolutely awful on the glass display

matte screen protector did help, but it made the image quality worse

so far I've been much happier with the s8+ since the pen is lighter with a slightly rubberized nib, so drawing feels more natural to me

>>6141661
does s8+ use windows or android? I like my ipad but I miss CSP so much.

>>6141684
it runs android
also CSP is available for ios and android nowadays (subscription though)

Is it a bad idea to use a converter for my tablet off HDMI? I could put it to USB or VGI inputs instead. What difference does it make?

how often do other tablet fans upgrade? i have a 2nd gen ipad pro that ive had for like 4 years and can see myself keeping it another 1-2. im curious what others habits are.

>>6132362
My 12WX is still going stronk.
I use it with the screen turned off so there's no parkinson and jitter due to electronic interference.

Still no reason to upgrade for a scrub like me.

Anyone interested in splitting the cost of some Procreate brushes? Specifically some of the ones here: https://creativemarket.com/Jazwinska

Hit me up on Discord if so

-Eden-#3101

>>6142188
You're better off making a thread for this, fairly sure most of us don't use procreate

Are there any cheap phones with styluses that have decent digitizers? I have a tablet of course but something to sketch and paint with on my commute would be cool.

>>6132365
My wacom is behaving exactly the same as in your webm. Couldn't it be just problems with drivers? How can I fix broken tilt. Doesn't work as it should at all. Same for the pressure levels.

>>6142241
Samsung Galaxy Note line uses wacom EMR digitizer
You can probably get the older ones for dirt cheap

>>6142241
I sketch on my note 10+ and an app called ibis paint

>procreate has real stroke stabilization now
Finally, procreate is usable. I can't stop paying monthly fees for CSP.

>>6142574
Stroke stabilization is a crutch for shitters that will only hold you back.

>>6142580
NGMI. Enjoy your unprofessional looking linework.

Whats the best screen tablet in the $350-$400 range?

>>6142597
Huion Kamvas

>>6142603
Which one anon

>>6142669
do you have room for a 22 inch tablet? do you want to draw on something that large? Are you okay with refurbished/preowned?

If you answered no to any of the above, get a 16.

>>6142678
A 16 it is then
Thanks

Quick question: Do cintiq(24) displays get hot to touch?

>>6132362
>bought an xp pen 24 inch
>works perfectly fine
I don't see what OP's problem is, yeah the colours were too red for my liking but I fixed it by fucking around with the gamma and colour settings in the drivers

>>6143019
You're in no position to judge because you haven't actually used a Wacom, worthless poor idiot.

>>6143337
But I have used wacoms, in school (24 inches) and at home (16 inches) and normal screenless ones too so you can cope and sneed all you want wacom shill but all the other chink brands work perfectly fine.
Of course there are going to be some tableys that end up acting weird or are just straight up broken but that's the case for every consoomer item ever made and not just tablets but you're too much of a retard to understand that.

>>6143337
it's not 2010 anymore. chinkshit tablets have caught up with the extremely overpriced wacom ones.

>>6142246
Try increasing the activation pressure on your stylus in the drivers that fixed the pressure sens issue on my old 16 incher it might help you too
If that doesn't help uninstall the drivers, run ccleaner's reg cleaner thing and reinstall the drivers

>>6133127
That's a normal feature. All ipads have jitter, it just gets worse if you apply any screen protector on it. Alternatively any EMR tech won't have jitter screen or no screen.

>>6143337
>living in the past
the technology has moved on

>>6132362
Opinions on wacom cintiq 16?
How much better would it be than huion gt 156

>>6143337
>randomly assumes anon hasn't tried wacom for no reason
>fails to realise it's 2022 and not 2010 when wacoms were the meta
Are wacom users the new Macfags?

>>6143613

Who the fuck draws in 1080p 60hz? It's 2022 already and you don't have at least a 4k cintiq or Ipad with XDR 120hz display. Fuckin poor fags cope seethe harder.

>>6143640
>responds to anon calling him a Macfag
>by acting like an entitled Macfag

>>6142541
Is the paid version worth it?

>>6143668
Idk, I don't use it. The free version does everything I need it to. The only ads are at the very top of the screen, and occasionally when you go back to the gallery from the piece you're working on, so they're non issues
I don't give a shit about the cloud storage
And the free brushes are adequate for what I draw.

>>6143452
t. chinese idiot

>>6143460
except they haven't, liu bei

anyone here draw with a basic ipad?
is the non-laminated screen that bad for drawing when compared to laminated?

Is there anyway to connect my iPad pro to my computer and use it as a drawing tablet or free, or at least for a flat fee? I don't want to pay a monthly fee just to connect my two already expensive devices. Project Blue worked great until they shut down the beta and put a $100/yr price tag on it.

>>6143909
i think only if your computer is a mac which blows ass

>>6143909
luna display, but it sucks ass

>>6143791
I would say yeah, it's like drawing on actual glass so you'll slide, it's best to get some sort of cover that acts like paper so you can get some sort of resistance or texture feeling for it.

>>6143909
There's EasyCanvas which uses flat fee, seems like they tried to go the subscription route (probably when they got bought) but backpedaled
So there are two entries on the app store which works the same but different payment method
Anyway, there's trial period for it, so you can try if you like it or not before buying it

>>6143909
>$100/yr for a jittery second screen app on device not designed for pc use
Jesus Christ how horrifying. I tried it once then quickly went back to my screenless tablet. The display and experience was way inferior.

So i got a Tab S8 Ultra last week, and already managed to break the nib in the pen. They didnt give me any spares so now i gotta wait for new nibs to get delivered. Is this gonna be a regular occurence?

>>6144111
Nice numbers but stop being a fucking gorilla man

>>6143770
>no argument
>too stupid to use terveisin correctly
R*ddit moment

>>6144169
wut

Is it normal for xp pen emails to get your name incorrect? Instead of "dear valued customer (my name)" like the first email was, the following emails is some weird spam letters name
The order is the same product still but whats going on there

>>6144526
stop pushing so hard.

Is there a list of all the wacom tablets, with both their marketing and technical names? (Wacom Intuos Small / CTL-4100K-S) I'm getting lost between multiple recommendations in multiple languages, and I'm not even sure which model the tablet I have is.

I didn't find anything on google or wikipedia, the official site doesn't list old models.

>Wacom Intuous Pro M (PTH-651), been using it for around 8 years
>Battery 49% Full
>Plug-in for about 10 minutes
>97% Full
>Unplug
>It's 74%
????????
Sucks that they don't sell just the battery. (they sell the whole wireless kit)

Got a Huion kamvas pro 16" 2.5k edition because I got fucked over and needed a new tablet fast but didn't have a lot of money. Previously used standard wacom cintiqs, this tablet is the same price as the standard cintiq 16 but shits all over the cintiq. I bought it out of necessity but it turned out to be the best tablet I've used so far for the price.

>>6144947
>but shits all over the cintiq
mind listing a few main reasons?

>>6144947
based and chinapilled
wacom needs to slash their prices, there's no excuse at all anymore to charge what they do.

>>6144950
Standard cintiq 16 is only HD, the kamvas is 2.5k, the colours are far better looking, laminate display so less parallax, it's thinner and lighter, I can feel virtually no difference in drawing quality, can use it with my phone when travelling, can either use 3 way cable or just USB C for picture and data. The stand is kind of cheap feeling but it's very sturdy and is portable. Plus student discount

>>6144976
Wacom Pro is better, but they're totally overpriced. This feels like the closest you can get for significantly less cost

>>6144974
This. Genuinely the only reason why huion/xp pen even get any attention is because wacom has fucked their prices and driven people away. If they were reasonably priced wacom would dominate the market thoroughly

>>6144976
honestly as someone who used a huion kamvas for the best part of a year, it's hands down the BEST tablet you can get imo

my only concern is longevity and whether they'll actually stand the test of time, but that aside I can't complain

>>6144947
>Got a Huion kamvas pro 16" 2.5k edition because I got fucked over and needed a new tablet fast but didn't have a lot of money. Previously used standard wacom cintiqs, this tablet is the same price as the standard cintiq 16 but shits all over the cintiq. I bought it out of necessity but it turned out to be the best tablet I've used so far for the price.

>>6144976
isn't the pen and line quality trash though compared to wacom's pro pen?

>>6145014
>it's hands down the BEST tablet you can get imo
nah
wacom's $5000 tablet will be ever so slightly better than huion's $500 offerings.
If money doesn't matter, they're better.
for 99% of the population, you're a retarded shill akin to an apple user if you support wacom at this point.
Same goes towards CSP/photoshop comparison.

>>6145080
There's no eraser on the end of the pen which puts some ppl off, I don't care I never used it either way. Line quality feels no different to me than on a cintiq, with stabilization and post processing in art programs it doesn't really matter either way

>>6145815
what about the cursor offset, does it stay consistently under the pen tip, especially near the edges?

Why the fuck its so hard to pick a good drawing screen holy fucking shit.
Ive been researching for a month now and Im nowhere closer to finding THE one I love.

Any major differences between an iPad Pro 10.5 inch (1st gen) model and the iPad Pro 12.9 inch (2nd gen) model besides screen size and one being a year newer?

Looking to use this mainly for digital sketches on the go so I'll be getting a Pencil with it either way.

>>6145142
CSP default pencil and pens mog everything else but photoshop is a lot more effective when you get into the weeds
Also CSP is trying to move to the same monthly subscription model, they're already doing it on ipad

>>6132362
>Galaxy Tab S7+/S8+
>Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro

Hello,

Recently got myself a tab S8. Would also like to use it to learn drawing.
Would anyone be able to recommend a drawing app which doesn't collect data about everything I do?
Thanks

>>6145915
Sketchbook is comfy

>>6145884
No, screen size is the only difference. I would suggest trying for a 3rd gen at least, especially if it's for mobile drawing. The 1st gen apple pencil was charged either by sticking it in the ipad's charging port, or with an adapter that let you plug a lightning cable into it.
2nd gen (for iPad pro 3rd gen to present) charged wirelessly by just sticking it on the side of the iPad.

>>6145905
>they're already doing it on ipad
That's literally all they've done on mobile OS, it's not something they changed to.
Comparatively few people would be willing to drop 50 bucks for a mobile app as would pay $50 for computer software.

>>6146064
Why are you saying that like people don't just wait for the half off sales before buying

>>6146106
My point stands regardless
Also imagine wanting to draw digitally but waiting months for a half off sale to start

>>6145915
Infinite Painter is pretty neat

>>6146058
>>6146315
Thanks, will try those two

How do you disconnect your tablet after use? Even unplugging it windows acts like the monitor is still extended there and I lose windows and my mouse on it

>>6146526
>Even unplugging it windows acts like the monitor is still extended there and I lose windows and my mouse on it
..might be Wangblow 10/11 moment?

>>6146559
Win 10 yeah. I don't get it since even in the settings > display it only shows my normal monitor, no tablet there. but my mouse and windows can still drift off into where said tablet display was

>>6146586
uhm
try looking around Multiple Displays in Nvidia Control Panel (or your GPU equivalent)

>>6145915
Artflow is the most comfortable to draw on for me
Lowest latency compared to everything else I tried

glossy or matte screen protector?

I want to upgrade from a s6 lite to a s7+ but what worries me is the tft panel on my s6lite burns in after 2 to 3 hours of drawing, it goes away after 10 minutes which is fine but the amoled on the s7+ seems like it would stay, I've had previous sammy phones that burnt in with oled. does it happen to you s7+ owners?
tl;dr does s7+ burn in

If my Intuos has an active area of 152mm x 95mm, ie a ratio of 16/10, while my screen has a ratio of 16/9, doesn't that mean that my movements on the tablet are slightly deformed when reproduced on the screen? Should I try to fix this, or is it too small to care about?

How do I get used to a tablet? I got one but find it odd how you draw at an angle with them. I also think I might be pressing it too hard and am worried I'll scratch it
Got any tips for how to get used my first display tablet?

>>6148000
There should be some kind of proportion option in the driver fit to screen or something like that (can't remember the exact name of it) that you should definitely activate otherwise your circles will never be actual circles for example
>>6148085
>Got any tips for how to get used my first display tablet?
Just use it more and lower the pressure sensitivity in the drivers if you're worried about scratching the protective layer that's on it.

>>6148092
>Just use it more and lower the pressure sensitivity
Do you mean the pressure curve? That's the only sensitivity setting I can seem to find in the xp pen driver. Currently mine looks like the far right one.

>>6147477
is that the horny girl from that manga I forgot the name of?
something no sprinter?

>>6148192
Yes the pressure curve

people with 24+ inch displays, what do you do with all that room to draw?
I currently draw with an ipad, an am considering either a huion 16 or 24, but feel like the 24 would just be massive for no benefit

>>6132362
Why can this retard still spamming these shit tablet threads?

>>6148612
try again, esl-kun.

What shortcuts would you recommend to put onto the macro keys?

>>6148252
use your elbow and shoulder more

Alright, I've finally narrowed it down to 3 possible candidates

-Huion Kamvas 16
-XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro
-Wacom One

If I had to choose, I'd pick the xp-pen one, but I dont really know much about screen tablets so if anyone has experience with any of those I'd appreciate your insights.

>>6149234
if you buy xp pen you're literally retarded, they're shit even compared to huion

>>6149394
Elaborate or fuck off

>>6149408
guess i'll fuck off then, it's not my job to do your research for you so enjoy your shit tablet

The best graphic drawing tablet on the market at the moment is the Samsung Tab S8 Ultra.

>>6149234
I wouldn't get any of those, get a HUION Kamvas 22. Good price and one of the best tablets.

>>6149234
when you say wacom one do you mean one by wacom? cause thats the one I plan to get

>>6149487
No, I mean what I said.
Wacom One.

>>6149408
>2022
>caring about the retarded wacom shill

Drawing on a screenless tablet is fucking impossible>>6132365

Cintiq 16 driver question, borrowing my friend's to test it out - for some reason I can draw/use the tablet, but the Wacom Desktop Center doesn't recognize the 16 being connected, saying

"Compatible display device not found"

so I can't change the brightness. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the driver, done the same with a few previous versions of the driver, updated my graphics card, updated my DirectX, and even adjusted my registry so Windows Ink can't get in the way. I'm out of ideas - anybody have

I just don't want my eyes to be blasted by it constantly being on 100% brightness.

>>6138562
Nta but I have one as well. The worst thing about it is the 800:1 contrast ratio, it's just not high enough so you have to check colors and tones on a different monitor thats actually accurate. Aside from that it's a great tablet. I think they fixed that problem with the new 16" tabs but I havent used those so cant vouch for the quality on those.

>>6143019
Same, I just hooked my spyder up to it and calibrated, problem solved. The factory defaults are trash.

>>6150681
Try older drivers. The cord might be fucked, if you can swap out a different one try it. Or maybe you can try another port on your computer.

>>6150785
Tried it with a few others, including the oldest one - oldest still didn't recognize it, some of the middle ones didn't even see that it was connected, which was weird since the older did.

I don't *think* it should be the cord, since last we checked it worked on his computer, we'll test that now.

>>6150810
>>6150785
>>6150681
Just tested it on his computer, and it totally worked, no issues. Same OS (Windows 10).

I just flashed the OS on this laptop a couple of weeks ago, so I'm wondering if I screwed up a more integral driver or something, though I haven't seen issues until now.

>>6150165
No you're just an idiot. Your stupidity is further proven by your inability to use the reply function correctly.

>>6150830
Can you try different ports, or maybe you have a different computer? Oh, you can also try going into device manager, delete the drivers for all usb hubs only, and then restart the computer. There are other ways to clear your usb device list but windows 10 has a finite amount of usb devices that can be saved at once and every time you plug the same device into a different usb port it counts towards your total. Which is fucking retarded.

There are other ways to clear the usb device list but I think it requires registry edits. Also if you dont trust my advice just look up how to clear usb devices on win 10 you'll find it.

Aside from that, you can try completely uninstalling wacom drivers including the restart and deleting shit left in folders and then reinstall with admin priveleges. If nothing works, maybe something really did fuck up when you flashed the os on there man.

>>6149394
>xp pen is LE BAD
>literally recommended by CSP
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/158824

Here's a reminder for people who still bother to fight with the wacom chap:

Drawing tablets are now 25 year old technology. These things were developed a quarter of a century ago. Screen tablets are over 20 year old tech by now.

>>6152041
>Drawing tablets are now 25 year old technology.
you think the first tablet was made in 1997?

>>6152077
He doesnt know about the puck

If one were to get an older Wacom display tablet, which models would you recommend?

>>6152378
Any cintiq between 2011-2014. These has the stuff new ones lacks like stands and shortcuts. They're also cheap too. They're good options but only if low resolutions doesn't bother you.

>>6152378
a modern huion will be about the same price and absolutely shit on an older cintiq. you can pick up a kamvas 16 for like $200-250.

>>6152077

Modern drawing tablets then, you pedantic shithead. The point still stands.

>XP-Pen Innovator16 $600
>Wacom Cintiq 16 $630
Is there any reason should i pick Innovator16 instead of Cintiq if the price almost same and i never use the tablet buttons?

>>6152565
I'd get the x3 16" not the innovator. That thing sucks, its too dim.

But yeah if the price is the same wacom is good as long as you arent on linux.

Thoughts on Cintiq 22(2019)? 24 Pro looks nice but it's too big for my setup.

>>6152565
innovator 16 is $325 on amazon

>>6137937
You can replace the nib just fine. It uses older-style wacom nibs which are basically just cylinders of plastic. I use straightened bits of 1.75mm PLA 3d printer filament with the tip rounded over, but purpose-made plastic or felt ones are available.

>>6149234
I had the Kamvas 13, shit kinda sucked. Noticeable parallax on the display, weirdly recessed USB C ports which meant my favorite cable didn't fit, and the fucker got downright steamy after being on for a while. My glove fucking reeked after a month or so from all the sweat and I had to hand wash it.

>>6152535
the first "modern drawing tablet", meaning a commercial stylus-on-tablet input device with pressure sensitivity, was released in 1981. Non-commercial types without pressure sensitivity go back decades further.

Should I?
The price is really tempting

>>6152715
Refurbished from wacom is sketchy... if I were you and I bought one I would take video while unboxing and plugging it in so you can prove you didnt break it if they send you a dud. Seriously, they can be so bad about this.

>>6152623
The 22 is due for a reboot soon, and it's only HD. I wouldn't personally, unless you can find a very good deal on one. The tablet itself is great, but the screen is lackluster and it's not great on colors either, you'll want to check them on another monitor that is accurate.

Also, 24 pro is fine if you put it on an amazon basics ergo arm or the ergotron lx. There's also a 22" from them, right? Same goes for any wacoms, you can save a lot of space with a tablet arm.

>>6152892
Really?
I thought their customer service was decent :S

Finally got my huion screen tablet i bought
Should i use 6500k or 9300k setting? Which one is better considering it's my only screen and i don't need to calibrate it to shitty gayming screen?

I'm looking into getting into digital art. I have a very good laptop and would like to get a screen tablet that is portable and good quality. What would you suggest?
At first I thought to just get iPad or galaxy but I don't need android or ipados.

>>6152985
Hard to answer without knowing how much you're willing to spend.

>>6153030
No idea about the pricing. I'm willing to pay more for quality product. Would something like 500$ be enough?

>>6152648
>favorite cable

Which one is better for a beginner, one by wacom or a wacom intuos small? I can get a one for $39 and the intuos small for $93

>>6152653

Ah, so Wacom didn't even innovate anything. They're chinese knock offs then.

>>6153112
it's silicone-jacketed so very flexible

>>6152895
>Also, 24 pro is fine if you put it on an amazon basics ergo arm or the ergotron lx. There's also a 22" from them, right? Same goes for any wacoms, you can save a lot of space with a tablet arm.
I was actually considering this but the 24" is fucking heavy and I think arms that support that weight aren't exactly cheap, either.

>>6132365
>>6132362
Got myself a XP Pen 22R pro and it works perfectly fine, also display tablets will ALWAYS be superior to non-screen ones, Cope, seethe and dilate

>>6153420
>t. Liu Zhao Bei

>>6153448
wacom shills are really pathetic

>>6153452
200元已存入您的賬戶

>>6153448
I'm Latino though, cope and seethe, the only reason you hate on products is based on politics take your meds and stop browsing /pol/ you massive retard

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>>6153535
I'm not chinese fren meds now

>>6153114
Any help?

>>6153949
personally I don't see much point in either. With that small of a drawing area, you're either going to be zoomed in a lot, or you're going to be drawing almost entirely with your wrist.
For $120, you can get this
https://store.huion.com/products/inspiroy-wh1409-8192
which will absolute shitstomp the budget borderline toys you're currently looking at.

>>6153994
But I'm an absolute beginner, I don't want to dish out that much money for something I'm not even sure I'm going to commit to anyway. Also, I can't find any of those going for less than $450 here

>>6154036
you might want to specify what 3rd world hole you're in if a $120 tablet direct from the manufacturer's website is going for $450.

>>6154041
Oh nvm the website wasn't working properly so I thought it wasn't available there, it's still around $190 tho

>>6154053
I see
either way I would opt for a chinkshit brand like xp pen or huion over a wacom if you're looking to get into it on a budget. a 7 or 8 inch drawing space is really pretty abysmal, and like I said, will limit you more to drawing with your fingers/wrist, and not so much your elbow/shoulder.

OP is written by a literal retard that probably thinking buying the most expensive tablet will make them a better artist, or they're stuck in 2010 when there was actually a difference in quality. Meanwhile there are a shit load of professionals drawing on huion tablets, and virtually every review on them says they feel basically the same as wacom at this point.

My advice is get a paper and pencil, cut it down to the drawing area of the tablet you're considering, and actually try drawing on it first before dropping any money on a tablet.

>>6154060
Whenever I would draw when I was younger I'd usually do it on a small notebook, I guess I could say I'm more used to a smaller size? How would a houion HS64 fare against the wacom ones? It's around the same price as the intuos but it's bigger. Also, I forgot to mention I don't have that much space on my desk, so while a small tablet would fit just fine a medium sized one might not. Are the entry huion models worth it?

>>6153535
>I'm Latino though
Of course you are, idiot.

>>6154068
Stop listening to the literal chinese shill. That trash is NEVER worth it.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII
Even budget wacom easily outperform it in terms of drawing.
The people shilling chinese garbage are either chinese shills, or third world idiots like >>6153535 attempting to rationalize their cheap purchases.

>>6154082
Ok this just got much more complicated than it should be

>>6154082
Explain how professional artists are able to produce work magnitudes better than anything you could ever hope to, despite using Chinese tablets.
Op also says cintiqs are le bad, just further showing how fucking retarded he is.

>>6154082
>look at this 4 year old video comparing a different brand tablet than what was recommended
wacom shills are really scraping now lmao

>>6154079
Cope politics obsessed loser

>>6154092
Professional artists? Like who? Don't just say the ones who were obviously paid to promote chinese garbage either. Every single professional studio only ever use Wacoms you stupid idiot.

>>6154200
There are professional artists that don't work in art studios

>>6154209
>still not citing anyone
Like the embarrassing idiot you are.

>>6132365
Xp pen screen tablets are absolute garbage, fell for the meme a while ago.
After 5 months of using it i gave it to my hobbyist friend
>Screen burn after 2 months even when the brightness was at 50%
>Drivers crashed almost daily
>Pen pressure would randomly decide to turn off
>Colors are warm and even with adjustments it's still the same issue

Made me go back to using my intuos small
, Luckily managed to save and get ipad pro used + a cintiq 16 from a friend who's upgrading.
My advice to you always go wacom, they're greedy cunts but the quality is much better than their competition even though their product is full of issues.
I hope one day we get a better brand that is affordable and doesn't decide to fall apart randomly.
Ipad pro with procreate is super fkn comfy though, make sure you get a stand for it so you don't hurt your neck
>Drivers

>>6154280
Recommendations for a stand? My neck is fucking killing me.

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