/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Does eating more protein stimulate art gains?

no /vent/, so i'll post my stupidity here.
i finally reached my day off during which i was looking forward with relief to working on all my art i'd had to set aside halfway through throughout the week for today,
and i was so into it i picked up my apple pencil the sec i woke up and carried it around with me doing all my usual morning prep, then found i'd lost it somewhere along the way.
spent anout an hour looking for it, mentally exhausted and sure it fell down a vent or something i spent money on a bluetooth finder, and have been going back and forth in small circles for the past nine hours with a glitching radar that jumps around wildly from one end of my house to the other. still haven't found it, exhausted and going to collapse. the day off's now over and i feel like killing myself.
the pencil is only discoverable while it still has a charge, and the charge'll be dead in a minute now. my ipad died a while ago and i'm trying to charge it so i can circle some more. i want to kill myself.

>>6126478
holy shit
holy shit
holy shit
i just turned out all the lights and took off my coat to finally give up and crawl into bed after searching since i last posted, and felt something in my coat. i found it. it had fallen into a tiny open seam inside the fabric of my coat, the radar was going mad because my coat was probably flapping along as i carried it with me on my circles. i pretty much never gave up, sat down, or put down the ipad pencil finder to stick my hands in my pockets since morning so i never knew. it was always with me
i found it
i actually found it
hooray

>>6126540
i'd do a sort of waltz around the dining room but i'm too tired.
good night ic.

>>6126540
Wow, that's pretty insane. At least you found it, but man that must have been stressful. I've torn up my place a few times looking for things, and they've turned up in ridiculous places. Sometimes they're in an obvious place and I can't believe I didn't find it sooner. Sometimes they're in a retarded place, and I'm like how on earth did it get there? The worst was one time when my place was really messing, and I was drunk, and I got so mad because I couldn't find something that I started smashing things and throwing things. I put a few holes in my wall that I later had to patch with one of those mixer kits. I accidentally broke something that was a birthday present, and that made me furious and sad at the same time. I've since quit drinking and moved, and haven't had that problem again. But yeah, shit can be crazy.

is this where I can ask stupid questions?

>>6126620
>>6126478

Oh yeah, and one time I got so drunk I left my backpack in a cab. It had tons of pins on it that I'd spent years collecting. I used to get compliments all the time by random strangers because it was a really sick backpack with a ton of really cool pins. I lost the ambition to put pins on my backpacks after that. I woke up and it looked like a hurricane had hit my apartment, and I couldn't remember anything. Then when I remembered I got really furious again. But I had smashed a whole bunch of things, there was garbage everywhere. I broke a chair. It was really bad. I guess that doesn't have anything to do with art or this thread, but I guess I'm just trying to relate. Glad you found your pen though.

>>6126628

Autism: the post

>>6126628
I used to drive cabs and one time this faggot left a backpack covered in pins on my backseat. Gayest bag I’ve ever seen. I tore all the pins off and threw them away. The backpack I used to hold my old gym clothes for a while, but I left it at my ex girlfriends place and never saw it again

>>6126620
>>6126628
damn man, that sounds rough. i’m so sorry about your pack. that kinda keepsake is so irreplaceable there are no words.
i usually just get sad and tired instead of angry, so that’d be a whole new level of arghh if you woke up to everything wrecked on top of your pack’s disappearance. at least that bad shit’s in the past now.
hope all daily things turn out a ton better for you, bro. felt really nice, seeing someone relate to my glasses-are-on-your-head shenanigans. chin up man

>>6126620
>>6126628
damn man, that sounds rough. i’m so sorry about your pack. that kind of keepsake is so irreplaceable there are no words.
i usually just get sad and tired instead of angry, so that’d be a whole new level of arghh if you woke up to everything wrecked on top of your pack’s disappearance. at least that bad shit’s in the past now.
hope all daily things turn out a ton better for you. felt really nice, seeing someone relate to my glasses-are-on-your-head shenanigans. chin up man

good books on composition? im kind of satisfied with how i draw right now but im noticing that im lacking good compositional elements in my drawings...

does anybody have a cum/liquid template or infographic that they can share?

>Grinding ovals and circles for hours every day
>not enjoying it at all
bros........ am I ngmi?

>>6127358
Nobody enjoys that. Are you just doing them like a drone or are you applying them into something? Because grinding gesture was a pain but once I was actually trying to draw something with it, it became a fun step of a process.

>>6127358
>Grinding ovals and circles for hours
Yes, you're ngmi solely for falling for stupid shit like this.

>>6127358
I will draw circles for 6 hours a day, just for fun. You're never going to make it.

At what point can you call yourself an artist?

>>6126398
do i need kosher paint if i want to paint a jew?
what brush should i use?

Why western weird fetishes are goofball shit like inflation or giant women while on Asian countries is downright gore like penis manipulation or mind breaking? I mean, I'm not the only one who noticed that right? I dealt enough with Korean, japanese and autistic weirdos on deviantart to notice the contrast.

If you study history you kinda know that a lot of Asians where really fucked and rape and war-crimes weren't that uncommon, is really genetic, like the mongoloid genome has this characteristic of wanting to fuck shit up and they express it on their artwork without noticing.

>>6128110
Rest assured that 90% of giantess art is done by Japs.

>>6128020
You need the blood of goyim blood taken through blood libel if you want to paint a Jew.

>>6126478
Are you a cute girl? Please be my cute klutz art gf!

When I was a kid I spent over 30 minutes trying to find a rubber bouncy ball in my room, only to figure out it was in my mouth the whole time.

Can anyone explain to me how to blend well or drop a good tutorial? I am terrible and dont really get how to do it properly in the first place.

What resolution do you guys sketched at as beginners? And what brushes did you use?

>>6127944
When you make art

>>6128188
lol, man.
yeah, but though i still get carded everywhere, i’m probably too old for you dude.
i’m sure that rubber tasted pretty interesting.

Why is Steve Huston so hot bros it's so hard to focus on his courses

Could someone please tell me what kind of brush I can use to achieve these textured lines? It'll suit my art style very well.

Any site in particular where I can find these kind of "3/4 looking at the camera holding a medieval weapon" references?

I forgot how to draw
I have a general idea on my subject matter but i can't come up with a good sketch. Draw the eyes? No, it looks too frontal. Draw the body? No background. Draw the background? Figures are too tiny. I even forgot how to sketch decently . any advice to skip over this phase?

>>6128960
Figured it out. Just make slight alterations to the watercolor brush.

>>6128120
ohhhh uhh giant lolis ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

How do you find the vanishing points of images? I'm trying to figure it out so I understand perspective myself
I believe these are the vanishing points here? Since it's a pov standing on the ground looking up. But when using the lined grid locked with those points, only the upper part looks correct. The bottom part can't even outline the boxes correctly

I'm genuinely lost on how you figure them out, I've tried with various perspective images and somethings always off, so I'm sure I'm doing it wrong?

>>6129439
Even with real photos as a reference somethings wrong with it when I set up vanishing points. There's always 1 angle that's off, shown in green here.
I'm definitely doing something wrong here?

>>6129439
>>6129493
The vanishing point can be found on the horizon line

https://youtu.be/FTZhMGMe3SU?t=1413
Can someone explain what's going on in here? Is adding water to your poster and covering theme with some plastic better than just closing the lid? Why? Can you do this everytime you end your painting session? doesn't this grow mold on your paints?

>>6129502
The horizon line in CSP is the blue one seen in the 3rd image. The tool always puts that between the 2 vanishing points anyway.
I can manage to get the horizon(blue line) on the image but it always messes up something as well.

It should be easy finding the vanishing points on this cargo container image since it's all cubes but there's always 1 gridlock line thats off.. for example the vertical lines on the right on image related

can someone explain how to paint the lieart the right way? because feels that is not right when i just clip an new layer and put some color on it, makes uglier
there is some hidden secret?

>>6129523
Your horizon line is incorrect

>>6129511
I tried keeping some gouache moist on a palette with a not-airtight plastic wrap as an experiment to see how it would go. It ended up getting mold during the second week, but I was leaving it alone to so the paint wasn't getting used and turned over, and it was m.graham so which has honey in it.
Maybe he goes through the cups fast enough as a pro that it doesn't matter, or maybe it's not as big of a concern with nikker.

>>6129574
Where would you put it then? I'm totally lost. Does the horizon line have to be on page or what?

>>6127358
>Grinding ovals and circles for hours every day
did you improve though?

>>6129588
the horizon is where the sky meets the ground. that's both in layman's terms and in like 99% of scenes. and i guarantee a lot with shipping containers is in that 99%.

all parallel lines share the same vanishing point.
if you think of the ground as just a giant web of lines, all of those lines are going to vanish on a single horizon line. and anything with a flat surface that's parallel to the ground like a table, or a shipping container, is going to have it's vanishing points on that same horizon line.

you put yours up in the clouds, which is obviously wrong.

Why do I feel like my imagination is getting worse the more I improve at other things?
Can you train such a thing?

Any tips for centering the head on top of the neck?

>>6127358
Why would you do that, don't do it lmao
If you feel like you need to grind, grind cylinders and boxes instead.

Can looking at good art help you improve?Can looking at bad art make you worse?

Anyone know if floating tools mod for Sai2 exist?
I remember there was one for OG Sai

>>6129931
i don't know about getting worse
but every time you study your fundies also see how its used in good art

Why is it called fundamentals if it's not fun?

How do people here with non-graphical drawing tablets typically rotate their canvas?

>>6130184
Good tablets usually have at least one wheel for that.

>>6130189
Mine has one too but it's a pain in the ass to use it since my hand is always resting on my keyboard to ctrl+z and do other stuff.

I'm just wondering what everyone's workflow is like. I have my rotate set to R + rotate with the pen but more often than not I don't even rotate and just undo a bunch of times until I get the line I want, which is a bad habit.

>>6130201
>my hand is always resting on my keyboard to ctrl+z
Found your problem.
And your tablet probably has a bunch of remappable keys as well, use them. You don't need a lot.

(also, I just don't rotate the canvas all that often)

>>6129439
You forgot one on the horizon

Question about commissions.
When you're drawing a commission, do you have to post it on your blog and sign it? I wonder if you could make degenerate nsfw comms, but never officially admit to it.

God damn I am so sick of how tedious taking pictures of doodles in my sketchbook is, with trying to get it in the sun at the right angle and also emailing it to myself and all that crap. What are some cheap ass scanners I can get? Preferably those that utilize USB.

>>6129878
Yes, consume media that triggers more ideas, play videogames, read some fantasy book, comics, manga, look at art of great artists from this or pasts eras, download images/screencap scenes and make a folder for them, if you're not a sperg go outside and take photos from some cool places.
A good start is to have a theme in mind, like, what makes a scene scary, go watch some movies that help you get there, for example you may find an old movie that has a shit plot but there is one scene in it that really speaks to you, screencap it and save it for future inspo, that sort of thing, you can do it with videogames and for all of this you can take the palette and study the sceneary and whatnot. You can do it with anything you come up with really.

How the fuck do you build a following? I see shit tier begs with 5k+ followers and just wonder how?

>>6131385
Suck the dick of whoever the most influential people in your art community

>>6126398
Do I respond to low effort positive comments when I'm just starting?
>Wow, this is amazing!
I'm happy they like it but, what do I say? Nothing? Thank you?

>>6130373
>never officially admit to it.
Nobody would care. If there were 5 people who said
>I paid Anon to draw me NSFW
and they had 5 commissions which probably looks similar to your other work, everyone would believe them.
It's like the people who ban evade on Twitter, but want to retain their identity so they call themselves Banned Guy's Friend.
Nobody's fooled except for jannies.

>>6131651
positive comments are only trying to feed off your energy and steal your gains. do not reply unless it's to tell them to fuck off.

>>6131656
>trying to feed off your energy and steal your gains
It does feel that way. When I'm thinking of a proper reply to written in 2 seconds my vital energies are wasted on a pointless action.

>>6131651
>Nobody's fooled except for jannies
I mean, sure, but there is still a bit of plausible deniability. With large enough following the case would be silenced under defense the fans would facilitate.
On other hand companies won't hire you even if it's just rumors.

Why do artists commission "better" artists to draw their oc? that's like asking someone to fuck your wife, I just dont get it. Its the only kind of commission I get.

>>6131385
Appeal, you need to draw something people want to see. It doesn't necessarily mean being skilled technically. There are thousands of 400 follower accounts that draw godlike scenery and beautiful portraits. But who wants to see a portrait of a detailed walter white? More people would rather see a cute picture of raven from teen titans.

>>6131786
Maybe having someone else do your wife makes her happy and your wife being happy makes you happy.

>>6131786
To see a different artist's style on the character you commissioned them to do?? What else?

>>6127358
grind circles and ovals on top of huge boobs, it will give things meaning, and will get you one step closer to your coomer aspirations

>>6126398
If a painting looks fine from the thumbnail but looks slightly worse when full-size, does it mean that I am going in the right direction, and I just need to make it more detailed?

>>6132218
I learned something about this from an oil painter Cesar Santos. Ideally you'd want the whole composition to be nice in thumbnail size and get even better as you zoom in.

>>6132218
so yeah I think you're in the right direction, but I don't think being more detailed is the proper approach, what you'd want is more clarity and accuracy even with less detail

My turn to ask: What the fuck is "kitbashing"? is it for painting or 3D?

>>6132266
Kitbashing is a modelmaking term where one takes parts from various model kits to create something else.

Since CYM are the proper primaries for subtractive color(taking light away, as opposed to using light to create white), does this mean painting with CYM is superior?

>>6131786
because they have a clear view of what their OC should look like, but don't have the artistic talent to draw them that way.
How is this confusing to you? In what way is this at all like cuckolding? Fucking creepy degenerate

>>6131790
so just draw fanart for big IPs?

squid dot
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>6131798
>>6131819
>>6132407
I meant artists commissioning other artists to draw their oc, not non-artists.

>>6132482
you can be an artist and still not have the artistic ability to draw things how you want them to look.
Or you can just like someone else's art style that you can't replicate yourself, and want to see your OC in that style.
Again, I don't understand the confusion. It's the same as any artist commissioning another artist for anything.

are there any real actual consequences for being a nsfw artist? besides just the stigma around being one, do you actually lose opportunities?

>>6133120
paypal will lock your account

how do you actually paint rocks? i thought it would be easy

Is it a bad thing to spend a lot of time on one painting as a beginner?

>>6132325
nah, you have to think about more than a small slice of raw theory in a vaccuum. a printer and a painter have different constraints and prioritize different things.
paint has to deal with mixing and the physical properties of pigments. so if you can already hit a target color with the normal primaries, which 99% of the time you can, then starting from further away with cym is, At Best, more work for the same result.
and on the flipside, painters aren't working with a tight manufacturing design budget and don't need to hit the max number of colors with the smallest static set of inks. if you use 5 different paints or 10 or 15, it doesn't actually up the material cost of a painting, pulling out some high saturation purple when you need it is no big deal.

Why am I so unwilling to accept small gains when I know they're all I'm going to get? I just wanna dedicate enough time to be able to draw things I like

is it worth the effort to start trying to animate even when i'm not good at fundies just to get experience with it in? like i cannot draw well at all and idk if it's better to focus solely on improving my drawing or if it's okay to work on both drawing and animation at the same time

>>6133136
How's kofi?

What do people generally post on their Twitter pages?
I was thinking of making an account by 95% of my works are studies, would people be interested in sketches of faces, bones, muscles and bodies or nah?

Is the loomis meme that people only grind heads and get nowhere or is it cause of the negroid examples?

Is it weird I can't into making fanart? I have my favorite characters, but I've never drawn them with the intention of making fanart. They've mostly been studies.

how do I stop my gaming addiction?
videogames are just too fun.

>>6133890
Loomis being a meme is the meme. Loomis's construction method is perfectly fine. It's not the only good construction method, and it might even be a little complicated for beginners, but it's totally solid. People on here don't get good results with it because they don't put enough focus, time, or discipline into learning it.

>>6134026
Sell all your gaming shit, change your passwords, keep your computer out of your room if you have to. If gaming is an addiction you need to take some dramatic measures to get away from it. If you're not willing to do that then you don't really want to quit.

>>6133660
People probably won't be interested in it but it might be nice for you to have a place to archive your favorite pieces. I have a Tumblr for that practically no-one has interacted with.

>>6126398
Trying to draw but I keep farting and it smells so bad

>>6126412
Technically yes. A study found a strong connection between a high protein diet and IQ and students abilities on test scores. You'll want 1 or more preferably, grams of protein for every pound of body weight

If you're a femanon start taking iron because the majority of women are low in it and taking it boosts IQ by 10%.

>>6134352
Find the cause and cut it from your diet. Fiber supplements, IBS, specific high fiber foods like cabbage or beans.

>>6134358
Not all femanons bleed every month

>>6134363
Has nothing to do with that. Women's bodies have a higher iron requirement than men. Modern food grown through factory farms + depleted soil + how many chemicals bond with iron before your body can absorb it = the majority of women lack iron.

You really think the epidemic of stupid in today's world isn't a symptom of nutrient deficiencies? It's not a coincidence the majority of the US lack iodine and iodine is linked to high IQ in babies born to mothers who take it while pregnant.

I am constantly told I need to study everyday, but i find it super difficult to do so. but I have little problem wanting to draw for fun. Can't even bring myself to do gesture drawings for 15 minutes a day.

What do?

>>6134560
Make gesture drawingd fun.

is it really all just tracing?

>>6134598
all art is tracing, yes.

I have brushes people posted but where do I get the settings? There are a million things to tweak and 5 billion graphs to put a fucking curve on and I just want the correct settings. When I download a brush it comes in a default state.

which of these seem more suited for a beginner? i'm aiming for a little bit of both digital and trad and have been slowly picking up aaron blaise courses and then not using them because i am autistically stupid. however, i am planning on picking up at least one more. which of these do you guys think i would get more mileage out of?

https://creatureartteacher.com/product/dynamic-lighting-and-figure-course/
https://creatureartteacher.com/product/color-paint-bundle-with-ronnie-williford/
https://creatureartteacher.com/product/creature-design-with-aaron-blaise/

>paypal taking bigger and bigger bites out of my commissions
what other option do I have? Can I ever get away from fees?

>>6134598
no

this questions been fucking with my mind and im probably retarded
lets say you have a white ball in a naturally well lit room, and you shone a hard blue light on it
the light turns the ball blue therefore increasing its value, right? like, would the light darken the ball?

>>6126398
There’s no way people draw cities without using references right? How do you draw places with lots of information without directly copying?

>>6134963
>would the light darken
light sources mix additively, my friend. they cannot make things darker.

>>6134963
So there's two lights in this scenario?
White is every color. When you put a blue light on it, it moves towards blue and it is no longer "every color" so yes, it will decrease in value.

>>6135317
this is the stupid question thread, not the stupid answer thread.

>>6134963
I'm sure light makes things lighter but that's just me idk

Is being obsessed with drawing everything correctly a sign of my so called style or a sign of me being amateur? I want to draw simple-ish cute characters but i end up spending days and days working it so i can get the folds on the clothes correctly, every detail like specific stitches on clothes, detailed hair, nails, and then render the fuck out of it. Thing is, i don't particularly do it on purpose, i just can't stand "skipping" over stuff. Drawing shoes take me forever because i need to draw the goddamn laces correctly. My finished drawing look okay and i don't hate them but i wish i could finish more stuff quicker instead of spending over a week on each thing. For the record i am an amateur, been drawing for 2 years.

>>6135474
yes. just draw. think of the bigger picture. be one like wotah

>>6134963
you're speaking about it in color values which is fine as an artist (i personally can't say much on the color front there)
i'm pretty sure that irl the light would take on a blue tone and the intensity would increase. if you're representing your white light as (255, 255, 255), that value would probably decrease, but the blue would still stay at 255 i think. This may or may not change the intensity greatly, your screen definitely wouldn't be as bright but i'm not sure what the actual representation has to say about it. also, you would probably end up rendering this as coloring a semi-transparent blue on top of the white (maybe, i'm just not sure why you would need to predetermine the color before painting it when all you have is a color wheel instead of paint)
but the point is that irl it would be a more intense light that has taken on a blue hue

>>6135848
whoops i accidentally read too deep into your post and thought you were talking rgb color values for some reason. i'm pretty sure the rest of my post is alright besides that first line

>>6135848
if you're starting at #ffffff then you've needlessly backed yourself into a corner and have nowhere to go for highlights let alone an extra lighting effect. white objects irl are a surprisingly dark value, especially indoors, and they will of course not go down in value by adding extra blue onto their gray.

>>6134211
>People probably won't be interested in it but it might be nice for you to have a place to archive your favorite pieces. I have a Tumblr for that practically no-one has interacted with.
I see, might as well drop my stuff on pixiv.

How strictly should you stick with color theory?

Is there such a thing as "too much" rendering? How much is too much?

>>6137014
Depends on accuracy vs appeal (generally called "style"). If you have the underlying structure down, you can take it wherever you want, it can be very polished or close to realism (to the point where you reach human printer levels) or just add your own spice, this can either show in your brushwork, your palette or how simplified or graphic your work is.
Taste is a factor too, some things don't mix well together, think about "mario if he real" or hyper realistic Homer Simpson, if you can identify what doesn't work, you have a sense for what taste isn't, knowing what works and coming up with it yourself is the task, but that's what reference is for, having favorite artists is useful helps a lot too, now at least you have a landmark for your art journey.
>>6136921
You can definitely break it, it's even encouraged to do it just to test the limits of a palette, your pic is only for reference, it tends to work well, but if you want try it yourself, use a complimentary palette, but for one of the colors, shift the hue to one side (ex: Purple and Yellow, instead of yellow, try a bit of orange) and see how it looks. You can do this with any palette and change hues in a more abrupt way if you want, as long as your values work, experimenting with hues is fair game.

Is there any simplified tips and tricks on how to do lighting and shadow?
Feels like there's too much maths going on how it works for my monkey brain to process

>>6137146
Watch these, last video is a cheap way to integrate color into this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYGWfiZnMA&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZc-uYXv3Y&ab_channel=DaveGreco

>>6129439
The line from the railroad is correct. Take a look at my markings. The character's head is the vanishing point. You could even argue that the cast light on the middle right is converging towards the VP.

>>6129523
This is not correct.
>>6129588
Imagine you are in the picture and you walk towards the horizon. You can go along the sides of the container and follow the line. Your problem currently is you don't know what you are looking for. Practicing like >>6129493 is good, but you try to find any line. You have to find the lines that you can shoot an arrow towards the horizon and trace them.

>>6137236
so you can see which lines I used to orient myself.

Is a shitty background better than no background?

>>6136921
Color is for sissies, faggots, and women.

>>6137608
I'm all 3 at the same time

>>6138205
You will never be all 3.

What is the bare minimum skill requirements needed before you get into art commission business?
I'm tempted to open one as a challenge and to test my limit there

>>6138687
the bare minimum is offering something people want
for example, even if you were pretty shit, you could probably still get commissions from furries with niche fetishes

how do you make studying from artbooks fun? I can spend hours polishing a turd but when I try to sit down and seriously learn something from a book I put noticeably less effort into even something as simple as trying to copy. When I notice I did it poorly I keep trying to do it over again, and I spend 40 minutes on one illustration that I didn't gain any knowledge from, get demotivated, take a day off, and go back to drawing things I like after that.
I've been roughly repeating this process for about two months now, and I really would like to make progress with a book. I heard trying to incorporate what the book is teaching while drawing what you like is a good method, but I'm struggling to find the best way to do it.
Many books also confuse me because they'll show a finished illustration but not the process to get there, and I'm bad at taking info from it. Even when I go in with a plan in mind for studying I just seem to flounder.

>>6138687
Go ahead and look up Choklit11 on twitter.
If that shit is good enough to garner over 50,000 followers, literally anything is. There's no skill bar set that you have to get over before offering commissions.

>>6139351
>fun fun fun
Learn some discipline

>>6138687
There's no skill requirement , it's how about you shill yourself and following trends

>>6129439
Every object has it own vanishing points, some might share some, some might not, some might only share the horizon line, some might not.
Think about it, where are the vanishing points in this image ?

How do I replicate the shading/inking used here digitally? I use CSP if that helps

Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I'll shoot my shot.

I'm doing some research on the process of hiring/contracting an artist who is capable of emulating someone else's art style. A game Dev needs help drawing many characters, the challenge being that every illustration needs to be stylistically the same. Does anyone have any insight on this topic?

>>6139989
The highlights are done by scraping away the screentones with a box cutter. If you look there should be "tone eraser"-type brushes to help achieve that.

how the hell do i draw fire?

How do I get better at drawing tech? How do I get visualizing tech? I can't seem to imagine details of a complex machine.

I got a set of microns. What's the relationship between pen size and the number printed on the cap (ex. 05 is .45mm, 005 is .20mm, etc.)?

>>6140623
Maybe look at some comic book pages and see how the artists draw it. Ghost Rider is an example that should have cases of fire

>>6140780
wtf is that?

>>6140811
Sorry I was dumb to not specify. Micron pigma pens.

Should I buy an asaro head? I read Loomis 13 years ago and have intermittently gone through a lot of training since then. Also drawn a skull of mine literally dozens of times and have some plaster casts lying around.

>>6140882
>>6140780

Where in /ic/ can I legally post my drama when I feel lonely and sad about art?

>>6129169
happens some times, suck it up and keep trying. Keep grinding and after some days you should be able to do something that doesn't suck that much, some more days and you'll be as good as before

>canvas size
>pen size
Should I be drawing with a 3000+ pixel canvas and drawing at like 50% zoomed out? I feel like an idiot doodling small stuff zoomed out and then it looks all pixelly at 100%/200% zoom
>>6129878
draw gondolas for soul and imagination training

>>6141453
watercooler talk and confession threads

Why don't japanese artists use construction when drawing?

>>6141741
asian jeans

Is it weird that I prefer sketchy art with flat colors to rendered art with clean line work and shading?

>>6141843
no, all the work I save that I'm attracted to for whatever reason is more sketchy and rougher.

how do I draw cuter and cuter lolis?

>>6141854
Offing yourself.

what would be the ideal furfag visual library (sfw or otherwise)?

>>6141741
Vilppu himself says that the better you get at drawing the more directly you can draw. (direct drawing means drawing without an underly construction or sketch)

Is there any way to cull annoying coomers that kept asking for more lewd shit out of your follower lists without pissing them off?

anybody used both g-pens and hunt 102 crowquills? how do they compare?

>>6142365
Why do you not want to piss them off?

In photoshop, is there a way to actually select the contents of a selection spanning multiple layers? I want to move some limbs slightly, but not move the entirety of multiple layers, and not have to select the arm in each layer and move it one by one.

>>6141741
I'm beg, but I'm guessing at some point actually drawing the construction lines will just slow you down because you'll know what they look like without it.

>>6142676
yeah, uninstall photoshop and start using CSP instead.

>>6142124
exact source please I wanna see

>>6142686
I'd appreciate a proper answer instead of your reddit humour.

>>6142741
there's not a way to do that in the program you're using, so I suggested using a different program in which it is possible.

1. If I wanted to learn more about it, what is that thing on the top. Like a cape or something? A shawl?

2. Where do people learn to design super cute dresses like this, like holy fuck

>>6143370
>1.
Looks to be a modified version of the flap collar or sailor collar
>2.
Probably take a course in fashion illustration. Really, though, costumes like this are just mashups of clothes from different periods.

how do i improve drawing from imagination?
i use reference all the time, but when its time to create something out of my head without reference i'm pretty much at a loss and give up

>>6143491
Holy fuck this, it's like references are a trap
At least for me I learned find references for stuff in my head at least, which is basically just having a ton of images organized and google images search
I guess after a while you get so good and have so much experience with stuff you stop looking at it?
When I was programming I would have to stackoverflow and copy/paste everything I wrote, now I never have to go there
Curious what an actual talented person will say

For Character design, we often frown upon characters drawn with no background/white bg. But if your background and composition skills are not that good yet is it a safe option to just settle with no or simple background? or is no background really that terrible?

>>6143497
i know a lot of it is experience but i'm hoping to hear how someone who is experienced is able to think when it comes to this shit
i know my perspective, i draw figures all the time from reference. but something about just staying with a drawing from imagination is so damn intimidating

>>6143498
I think simple or using visual tricks to make it appealing but not complicated is the way to go. Or if you attempt more of a background, lump shapes together instead of defining everything.

>>6143491
stop trying to do circus tricks and just use references.

>>6143502
>>6143491
If it's good enough for anime women it's good enough for you

>>6143510
based

>>6143511
>tfw no ghost loli to cheer you on

>>6143491
I was looking at how the EO guy designs his characters. Look at those black and white block outs, you really don't need any references for that. I'm sure by the time he gets to the top row he's using references but I think alot of the imaginative work is done in that block out/fat pen stage where it's just general vague "armour here"

>>6143515
what's this season's replacement?

>>6143537
I think that was peak cute and it's all downhill now

>>6143515
>>6143537
>>6143543
what brain damage makes you comfortable looking at this as an adult male

>>6143548
Abnormally high T levels and zero fucks

>>6143549
me, for making that post? ty

>>6143556
YWNBAM

>>6143561
>being a pedo who's obsessed with cartoons is actually masculine and high status in society!

>>6143563
debunk this

>>6143573
i'd debunk your existence but we both know you can only get away with this warm and safe at your computer.

>>6143581

>>6143590
the old "lose the arguement and immediately resort to spamming anime images" tactic.

>>6143591
>still going to watch cute anime
>still going to be a lolicon
What have you won?

>watching anime while practicing drawing
>watch this episode
I-is it true? Is this us? Are FBI on this website laughing at us like this?

>watching anime while practicing drawing
>watch this episode
I-is it true? Is this us? Are FBI on this website laughing at us like this??

>>6143596
It's not about me winning, It's about you reveling in your loss. Sing and dance as you stumble unknowing into a hell of your own design

>>6143617
>hell
>every man that got married before the age of concent is going to hell
Is this like that thing where Christians worry about the babies that died before Jesus was born and couldn't get baptized?
>N-not every-
Yeah, I'm sure they let 5 years of fertility go to waste when women died young and they were trying to get the most babies out of them for the dowery they paid

>>6143617
Holy Based

>>6143639
meant to reply to >>6143596

>>6143648
nope too late.

can you polish a turd?

Why can't I focus on the same drawing for over 10 minutes? I can't finish a drawing to save my life I think I have several hundreds of unfinished sketches just from the last two weeks.

Are there downsides to using 3d models/mannequins for poses and such?

>>6143973
Just go back to some sketches and start refining the. Consider diet and lifestyle changes if extended periods of calm silence is difficult for you.

>>6144266
Nigga dropped that "m" and he's out here talking bout "diet and lifestyle changes"

>>6143973
10 minutes is actually pretty decent all things considered
you might be focusing "to hard"
its not a bad thing to refocus your eyes every now and then

but i'd say try to make distractions more inconvenient not to go to

disconnect your internet, have your own on the other side of the room, etc...

>>6144453
I think you also need breaks to revulate
Sometimes I spend 2 hours struggling on a drawing, then take a break and come back, and suddenly see what I was doing wrong

>>6144460
>revulate
REEVALUATE

>>6143973
ADHD? Maybe it's just you're accustomed to doodling: drawing without determining a specific outcome. Like you start by thinking about drawing a character, but you don't give any thought to anything else in the picture or to what the character is doing. So you begin by trying different things out, different poses, different angles, etc. Since you have no end point to reach, you have no sense of progress. Eventually you lose interest in the drawing. Doodling can sometimes yield interesting ideas, but if you want to draw a picture, have a specific goal in mind. Go back through some of your doodles and see if there's anything worth expanding upon.

how do i make straight lines in that position? mines look wobbly IF I can even press the pencil into the paper.

>>6144484
N

>>6144508
it's the lighting retard Brent eviston is white

>>6144585
((((white)))

>>6144453
>10 minutes is actually pretty decent
god I fucking hate our adhd riddled society.

>>6144656
Not him, but I can do my programming job for 12 hours straight, but drawing I can never focus without watching something or having a 4chan tab open to shitpost in

where do I learn to render materials and environments?
what resources or tutorials should I search to paint say a dirty jail cell or a dusty room etc?

Where can I find free scans of children's story books so I can study the kinda styles popular today? I'm trying to start a portfolio

How am I supposed to learn to paint digital landscapes when all these instructors basically keep their brushes to themselves. People say only use hard round brush but everyone seems to have a dozen texture brushes for this stuff

>>6144988
It's called a public library

>>6145189
>when all these instructors basically keep their brushes to themselves.
tons of artists tell you their brushes and offer them for free/cheap.

>>6143617
based

where can i get a free download of paint tool sai?

>>6145349
why would anyone download paint tool sai in the current year?

>>6145366
i'm old fashioned and I liked the simplicity of the program

wtf does "feel the form" mean?

>>6145373
>I'm dumb and can't comprehend modern programs

Is it possible to draw with no internal visualization?

>>6145536
Yes, with external visualization (reference) and memory.
Even if you visualize an image in your mind, you should be able to conceptualize what an item looks like from past experience.

>>6145536
So scribbling?

>>6145545
Even if you can't visualize*

>>6145536
Glen Keane can.

>>6126398
I’m scared to make a post on reddit or twitter saying I’m looking for artists to commission. I’m having a hard time finding one so I don’t know if anyone good will respond or if I have to pick someone from that list no matter what, even if I don’t like their art. I want two sfw fanart characters drawn so I’m wary about spending $200 starting with public pressure. Anyone have experience with this? Should I just keep lurking for someone to pop up?

>>6145613
Have you checked fiverr?

>>6145613
You don't have to pick anyone that offers a commission if you don't like their art.

If you're uncomfortable rejecting people, maybe try a site like https://artistsnclients.com/ so you can just browse yourself and contact artists you like.

>>6145627
No, the subreddits I looked at said that site is a scam and not to go on it.
>>6145648
Thank you, I will look into this.

realistically speaking how am i supposed to work with these cones of vision in my average drawing?

>>6145772
Field of view is literally how much of a scene you can see and how distorted it will be, so you establish fov before drawing anything cause it affects presented perspective.

>>6145781
yeah but how will i practically figure out where to cut it out so it doesn't distort?

>>6145793
motherfucker do you know what a cone is

>>6145805
yes i know what a cone is man, and i think i can figure out how to draw a cone of vision if i did a perspective drawing in a purely technical manner

my question is how do i apply this in a normal drawing. say im drawing some girl in a room how do i figure out how open the cone is, where should i put the circle that tells me everything outside of it will probably be distorted. how do i measure it or set it up in the average drawing.

assume im an absolute idiot please tell me how to figure it out

i am probably just stupid but

>>6145793
Further from center of cone= more distorted and blurry image will be. Humans fov horizontally around 180- 200, vertically arround 140,but it depends on each individual.

>>6145828
>my question is how do i apply this in a normal drawing. say im drawing some girl in a room how do i figure out how open the cone is, where should i put the circle that tells me everything outside of it will probably be distorted. how do i measure it or set it up in the average drawing.

Pov- point of view, you set it first- it will be exactly ehat we will see, imagine it being a framed glass screen, so if the screen itself is distorted, not perfect and flat, then we will seefistorter post processed image.
Fov is how big and curved this screen is.
Also camera and lenses analogy.
You aint smartest guy heh, good luck.

>>6145839
then we will see distorted* post processed image.

>>6145835
yeah i understand how that works

>>6145805
>>6145781
>>6145839
>>6145840

yeah i understand all that shit, believe me i understand all those concepts and also how to technically set it up, i can draw something like pic related (not mine but it's an example).

my question is how do i set up this cone of vision without having to go into drawing this kind of technical shit? because i never see artists drawing this sort of stuff unless it's technical work.

or do i have to set it out beforehand?

tl;dr: how do i figure out the cone of vision without having to draw set up a technical drawing like pic related? i want to draw stuff with perspective without having to resort to drawing all this shit? i'm talking about practicality here

or is there no other way?

does my doubt make sense now

>>6145839
Also dude
>where should i put the circle that tells me everything outside of it will probably be distorted.
You wont see anything past cone, it is called cone of vision for a reason, tho you can establish parts of focus areas on it, just as i said already, further from middle more fucky it will be.

>>6145847
yes, how do i figure out exactly the circle where everything inside doesn't look fucky without having to draw a whole diagram every time i decide to do a drawing with perspective in it? or do i have to do the diagram every time i decide to do a drawing with perspective?

does that question make sense?

>>6145845
>my question is how do i set up this cone of vision without having to go into drawing this kind of technical shit? because i never see artists drawing this sort of stuff unless it's technical work.

Eyeball it

>or do i have to set it out beforehand?

Yes

>>6145850
THANK YOU that's what i was wondering sorry if my english isn't too good

>>6145849
You overthinking it, this shit is just natural, freehand it then.

>>6145349
On the internet :'/

>>6144484
This is a brush grip, ehh...

>>6126398
>commission an artist a lot
>emails me whenever she opens comms
Is this normal? What should I say if I already spent the extra money I had this month? Kinda don’t want to, but kind of tempting to just ask for another drawing

>>6146014
>artist need money
>knows an easy mark who's given them money in the past
Yes, this is normal.

>>6145845
>i want to draw stuff with perspective without having to resort to drawing all this shit?
get some rudimentary /3/ skills.
do some thumbnails.
make a basic scene out of a few cubes and cylinders.
play with the camera settings until it's got the kind of look you want and then use it as a ref.

>>6146014
>hey sorry, I don't really have spending money right now. I'll let you know when I do/maybe next time!

>>6128850
pyw or your boobs

PERSPECTIVES:

Why are there different ones? Three point, two point? What's the point of different ones?
Isn't there like a "correct" one?
What perspective is in real life?
I don't understand.

>>6146148
They're just tools to help you draw what you see, anon.

>>6146148
The correct one is just "perspective drawing" with an endless number of vanishing points.
1-point and 2-point perspective are shortcuts to make your life easier by setting up a scene so that you only need to worry about a couple of them. If you're looking down a hallway, all the doors, windows, walls, signs share one vanishing point, and if you take care of that one point then everything else can be fudged(verticals and horizontals straight up and down). Same with 2 point and things like a street corner or a room.

>>6126398
How hard is reaching stable 1000$ or more per month doing art when you're half-decent?
I enjoy drawing coom anyway, so not like I'd be doing it just for the money.

>>6146272
...when you're half-decent art art already?
missed some words

>>6146275
did you have a stroke?
>>6146272
Is that an example of your work?

>>6146278
>did you have a stroke?
sometimes I think the words, but forget to write them
>Is that an example of your work?
this is latest example of my work

>>6146303
hard

>>6146313
you're right, I need to become better

Whats a good canvas to pen size? CSP if it matters. Trying to figure out my pen sensitivity and I'm not sure what the baseline for it should be, I don't know if it still has problems or if I'm being too autistic about it

>>6126398
how do you guys deal with the cold months?
I'm so cold that I must put a jacket and a coat, it also limits the range of motion of my shoulder, elbow and wrist, making it harder to draw
if I dont put additional clothing on, my articulations become kinda numb and I become unable to move fast, feels like I'm drawing with a rubberband tied to my arm
what to do? fuck I hate his

>>6146462
are you drawing outside in the snow or something?

How long can you draw before getting tired?
I'm finding twenty minutes or so at a time is exhausting me. Keep on mind I have a full time job and I help maintain a home, so this isn't all in doing.
Does it get easier? After a rest I can go back at it, but with all I have to do in a day, the resting is eating up half my practice time.

>>6146729
drawing is a neet hobby, sorry pal.
if you didn't get gud before you had responsibility, you're ngmi

So is being good drawing just being good at googling for refernces?
It's starting to feel like when I learned programming and the best skill you needed was being able to find the correct Stackoverflow thread to copy/paste code from

>>6146731
Fuck you nigger.

>>6146729
Put something on in the background, music or someone talking.
>>6146946
Kind of. Lots of references helps at the beginner stage definitely.

Are artists allowed to make their own threads for critique? Anons annoy ops for making separate threads for themselves, but it's not in the rules that they can't do that.
New capcha, weird.

>>6147032
>Put something on in the background, music or someone talking.
I recommend the History of Rome Podcast and Hardcode History (this is a torrent with all the episodes)
I can listen to Dan Carlin talk for fucking hours

>>6147039
Not against the rules but goes against the board culture. /ic/ is a slow board so new threads shouldn't be created without a good reason. If everybody created a thread for crits, all the generals would get bumped off. The people who create their own threads are new or egotistical/obnoxious enough to go against the board culture. They usually can't take criticism very well either. Most threads are low effort so only low effort critiques are offered. They hardly ever say what they were going for or anything else that might be relevant.

>>6147032
>>6147063
>>6146946
was struggling with this today and almost everyday
What I noticed helped today is SLOW relaxing music. I guess you need music that's conducive to sitting a long time, and doesn't make you wanna get up and go

What's the point to drawing anything besides loli bellies?

Does tracing someone else's inking in order to study it really help?
I've seen people here do it before and it doesn't seem like it'd be as mindless and ineffective a study method as it sounds as long as you paid attention to the strokes being used and made a good effort to match and understand the decision-making behind them. It lets you focus on just the lines without worrying about getting the rest of the drawing accurate, too.
But I have a weird illogical aversion to tracing even when it's a legitimate application, so I can't help feeling like maybe eyeballing a copy instead might be better.
Has anyone here done it before? Did it help you at all?

How are you supposed to do linearting?
If I zoom in to see if I'll eventually see issues when I zoom out again to look at it.
If I do it zoomed out it's too far out to see correctly and corners aren't properly connected

>>6147232
Looking messier at actual size is normal. Even trad inkers often draw much larger than the size the picture will be reproduced at precisely because when it gets printed as smaller the imperfections are harder to catch.

>>6147249
>Looking messier at actual size is normal. Even trad inkers often draw much larger than the size the picture
So I want to do it zoomed in then and accept some parts might be off when zoomed out? I'm a bit confused on how you worded it since it can apply to doing it zoomed in or out

How do you warm up before drawing?

>>6147356
i do 10 min of ellipses, 10 min of lines and a 20 minute gesture session of 1min, 2min, 5min figures.

>>6147356
Making draft/sketch is warm up itself.

>>6147346
Do both with a small viewer window.

>>6147219
>Does tracing someone else's inking in order to study it really help?
Yes if its conscious process

can't afford copics, is there a brand people like that didn't let them down considering they were relatively cheaper?

>>6147356
I don't because I don't think it's a skill that actually requires warming up. time wasted on a pointless warmup is time not used for actually drawing.
>but muh circles!!!

>>6148303
blick studio markers are very comparable to copics.

>>6148303
Just get watercolours.

how the fuck am i meant to hold my stylus? i just hold it like i would a pen but if i draw for more than an hour at a time i crush the fuck out of my pinky

>>6148472
how the fuck are you holding your pen that your pinky is getting effected?

>>6148483
tip of the pen is pinched between the tip of my index finger and the last knuckle of my middle finger

>>6148489
stop pressing down so hard on your pink I guess? I don't know why holding a stylus would hurt your pinky but holding a pen doesn't.

>>6141125
I bought one. It's literally just sat in my room for like 6 months collecting dust.

>>6147113
people want to draw things that are appealing instead of boring child anatomy.

>>6148373
can't find those in uk amazon :(
>>6148378
but dad I want markers

Why do my twitter followers randomly go down even if I post nothing? Do people seriously unfollow if you don't post enough?

>>6148844
Maybe they're hoping you'll follow them back, or interact with them. Just get off of Twitter.

>>6148844
i think thats just bot accounts getting deleted

>>6126398
will the 1099 $600 threshold for venmo and paypal law that joe biden passed early this year ever be repealed

What's causing this? When drawing instead of a gradual change as I press harder it just turns into a blob
If I do the default 90 degree slops settings then I have absolutely zero lighter lines as shown below. I don't know what to do.. it's such vague terms that googling gives nothing

>>6148875
ha ha ha ha ha

What exactly makes an "art style"?

Anyone know what filter is being applied to the photo background in this image? It looks very nice.

>>6148954
?

What's the best way to practice coloring in digi?
Is there any coloring book equivalent or something similiar to that in that medium?

I just realized my colors look a lot more saturated (and uglier) on my phone screen than on my pc which is where I paint them. is there a way to know which one is the closer to what other people see like a specific calibration method?

>>6150761
it's never going to go away.

how is this transition from light to dark made?