/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is there a link to loomis and Vilppuu ?

Noses are going to be the death of me.

>>6115531
both books can be found in the artbook thread, vilppu video course can be found in the video course thread

>>6115537
I don't think noses are the most pressing issue for you

>>6115539
It's not, I know there are tons of other issues as well, just with this particular one I found that the nose alone was fucking me over a lot as well.

>>6115541
Sorry, that was mean of me.
Anyway, you should go in witb lighter lines and try to get a feel for what your drawing. Practice some skulls to get a better understanding of the general structure of the head, the rest should fall into place in time

>>6115543
Hey man, be harsh, that's why I come here. That was my attempt to redraw one of my OC's with some elements I picked up doing Baki drawings (Which are also shit I might add)

>>6115537
basically what this >>6115543 anon said.
focus on getting proportions and positions right, don't actually draw the features out fully until you can place and size them properly. Even if it's just lines to indicate where the nose, eyes, etc are. Once you can do that correctly, then start drawing actual features.

Studies undergoing a shift, probably going to go independent and finally touch some juicy resources I've yet to touch, after skimming what I'm currently on because it mostly falls into life drawing which I'm already doing and prefer.

Going to look at some western classics I also enjoy and finally do some master studies when time permits and of course keep going at growing fundamentals because they're not up to par.

And of course the occasional fun doodle.

Had a coworker mention the term "internet hog" and decided to quick doodle it out as a break from traditional studies. Thank you for reading my blog.

>>6115560
He hogging

>>6115537
You're symbol drawing instead of building shapes. I kinda dig it though, looks like a Morrowind character.

>>6115537
surprisingly charming, looks like an anime picasso

>>6115589

How do i do soft edges on photoshop? I already know a bit of the theory but i dont know the tools or how to use them.

>>6115546
what's your goal with art?

>>6115595
Eventually producing an animated series that me and a couple of friends have been conceptualizing for a year and a bit now. My friends have a lot more artistic skill than me making me the "lead" writer, but I want to at least get to the point where I can conceptualize the scenes I am writing and kinda show them what I am getting at. The baki pic is because I feel that kinda style would fit the concept.

>>6115597
Study perspective for one week and get good at drawing circles and straight lines then do Fun with a Pencil. I think this will be your best bet for quick results.

>>6115591
I can just tell he has a nice ass.

Stepping back from this one I can see I gave her snowman proportions lol. Aside from that I was trying to apply some Bridgman ideas, mostly in the ribcage-abdomen-pelvis connections.

>>6115560
Based very nice.

>>6115591
Mirin that back.

>>6115529
anyone have any tips to keep your hand from shaking? mine does especially when im trying to be precise. trying to get a better position/posture but it's not working

>>6115625
You're gripping too hard
Loosen up
Don't forget to breathe

>>6115625
Couple of beers, lay off the coffee. If problems persist see a doctor.

>>6115625
Loosen up your grip and rest your hand on the drawing surface, put more energy into your strokes and use your whole arm. Also helps to strengthen forearm muscles, do wrist curls. For better posture, strengthen core and back muscles.

thanks, i'll try not gripping so hard

Hello BEG, missed two days. Procrastination is a bitch. I am bitch. Notice how you can see where i had to draw over already drawn shades. This is last time i am using opacity for anything

>>6115560
Subscribed :-)

>>6115537
Good style, good vibes but anatomy got killed in train accident.

>>6115644
I have a challenge for you anon. Draw you character from side, from top and from bottom. Also from 3/4 angle. You know, to force yourself out of your comfort zone

I'm thinking of starting up the NMA Russian Drawing course. Does anyone know if the wood panel they mention that you put canvas on is a one use only thing, or do you use it for a canvas, take it off, and re-canvas it?

I feel like I am regressing and hard. Left is something I am about to shade, and right is something I did three months ago.

I feel like facial anatomy specifically is throwing off the rest of my work.

>>6115664
You could have told me either was old and I would have believed you. You haven't stagnated but I don't see visible improvement

>>6115664
You only feel like you should have made some kind of progress, but you haven't. In that respect, you're not regressing.

>>6115664
damn. i kinda hope her pussy smells like rotten old cumsocks.

>>6115664
You're psyching yourself out. Left is better, though unless you did both from reference I would say having the reference was likely most of that improvement. If you were trying to study the reference you did a bad job anyway btw, pay attention to things like the curve of the back (which is a big part of the gesture here) and the negative space (like between her arms and thighs). Also the calves in both are too short so that's really something you ought to be aware of and work on.

>>6115651
are you limiting yourself to using three values only? why not use a more dynamic range instead of 0-5-10? maybe something like 3-5-8
the jump from pure white to pure black is pretty rough on the eyes imo

>>6115764
Stark white to black is kino. Also
>why don't you make everything a midtone?
terrible advice what the fuck

Wtf

Ballllllllllllls ^_^

My technique consists of me drawing something with a mouse once to get a rough shape
A 2nd time with a mouse to get a more finalized structure
And then a third time with a tablet to get a thin final line structure

>>6115799
I do this too

>>6115771
midtones are relative to the rest of the values

Finally found the time for this one.

>>6115589
>>6115591
Very nice

>>6115814
Great job this looks incredible

>>6115814
Why does this look photobashed?
I think it's the face that has no shadow from the hat and in fact looks brighter for some reason

>>6115807
Low contrast looks muddy and terrible especially when it's neither bright nor dark.

>>6115821
Thank you!
>>6115824
Not photobashed, but I had to reference some random pretty asian girl for the face and maybe the lighting in the photo influenced me too much, I darkened it a tad but I'm gonna be honest I don't really see it. Maybe the ear is too dark in relation?

Trying to learn how to render. Ignore the shitty highlights. Are you supposed to start with a base color like this, and then add stuff on top? Or is there another method

>>6115839
Another victim of the hard round meme

>>6115836
So here is what looks to be the reference. The archer in the reference has the arrow pressed to her chin, which is causing her head to slightly tilt away from the camera. I feel like the pressure from the arrow and hat's straps should squeeze the facial features a little. Skin tone's maybe a touch too warm for a winter scene. Looks pretty good, otherwise.

am I FEELING THE FORM? I've been doing gesture practice with line of action but feel very aimless and unsure how to learn from my prior work.

>>6115849
It's not a meme, faggots like you just don't know how to use the hard round brush.

>>6115856
You fell for it didnt you

>>6115855
Looks like it, but I can barely tell.
Don't chicken scratch. Gesture doesn't need nearly that much detail, remember that the whole point is to simplify the entire pose into as simple, flowing strokes as possible.

>>6115853
Yeah I had to reference a different girl for the face cause I didn't really like the original and thought not tilting her head back would be fine, but I can pull the face back a bit. I also thought she would get warmer skin like when you get redder when it's cold, but i guess that's only some select parts and everything else turns colder. Thank you anon I'll see if I can improve it with that in mind

>>6115849
take the hard square pill

I AM SO GOD DAMN SICK AND TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DRAW GOD DAMN IT

I THINK ABOUT GITTING GUD EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF THIS FUCK ASS THREAD

GET IN /BEG/, LOL GIT GUD GIT GUD PATHETIC LOL LOL

I AM SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SHIT

THAT FUCKING GOD DAMN FEEL WHEN DRAW LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD

THAT FUCKING GOD DAMN FEEL WHEN NO SATISFACTION FROM BEING ABLE TO DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE BECAUSE ANY LITERAL RETARD CAN DO IT SO IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

THAT FEEL WHEN BROKEN HUMAN BEING

THAT FEEL WHEN THIS THREAD IS RUINING THOUSANDS OF LIVES

THAT FEEL WHEN YOU SEE A 5 YEAR OLD WHO DRAWS INSTANTLY BETTER THAN YOU


THAT FEEL WHEN IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE BUT DON'T CARE MY LIFE IS SHIT

JUST BE BETTER GOD DAMN IT

YOU COULDN'T HAVE FUCKING DEVELOP BETTER DRAWING SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE
YOU JUST HAD TO EAT NOTHING BUT PROCESSED BULLSHIT LIKE POP TARTS WHEN YOU WERE A KID YOU FUCKING STUPID PIECE OF SHIT

YOU JUST HAD TO BE BORN PREMATURE AND ROB YOURSELF OF DEVELOPMENT

FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

MY TABLET COSTS $600, I HAVE TWITCHY HANDS AND I AM A NOOB

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN LIFE AS A MALE IS BEING ABLE TO DRAW A FUCKING PERSON

KILL ME
CUT MY FACE OFF

NO ONE RESPECTS ME

>>6115859
It's working just for me.

>>6115861
thank you anon I'll focus on using more intentional lines next time

>>6115864
It’s getting there. It looks ugly but in a cool way. It’s definitely still rough and beg, but it looks like you’re on your way to something good, you just need a few years.

>>6115865
K trannime poster it sure is

>>6115832
yeah, it will look bad if you do like 1-2-3 but 2-5-8 is more than enough to build up contrast

>>6115855
another one from the same session. definitely not a gesture though.. i get to the gesture part and then after it looks right i start filling stuff in but I'm not sure especially on how to foreshorten anything when the body is doing weird shit away from the pov

also i have unfortunately have failing vision, blind spots in the center of my eyes, etc. Is it still possible to git gud with fucked up eyes?

>>6115888
forgot attach

>>6115880
first of all you said 3-5-8, second 1-2-3 would unironically look better let alone 1-4-7 or 4-7-10.

>>6115864
Based grinder

My brain is definitely not wired for drawing, improvement is so slow

>>6115924
Your brain is wired to make excuses preventing you from greatness.

>>6115924
our brains are wired to learn and to repeat patterns more effectively over time. We are machines with the ability to be aware of ourselves.

>>6115560
Great drawing and I love the concept. May have to draw my own hog if you dont mind me stealing your OC

It could be better if I hadn't fallen into the trap of low resolution.
At least something to compare in the future.
Back to the mines.

>>6115955
Also sketches from June 2021. Oof.

>>6115956
>>6115960
You're not quirky or interesting, go actually try

>>6115949
Welcome to Sneed's Feed & Seed, m'lady

>>6115969
>You're not quirky or interesting

>>6115864
>THAT FEEL WHEN THIS THREAD IS RUINING THOUSANDS OF LIVES

Kek, if you go and train for the economic collapse then you are just living life bouncing from one problem to the other.

I think drawing is high A tier even with a gazillion other artists because you can draw whatever you want. Whereas with stuff like studying history and other advanced stuff, your impotence grows more painful as you learn more.

>>6115864
No offense but if you hate drawing this much then just stop
Going on /ic/ probably isn't helping you though lol

>>6115864
lol youre the toilet nigger arent you
the one that couldnt even trace the fucking toilet lmao
youre doing this to yourself its all your fault

>>6115998
Off by one

>>6115956
Do you have a goal with art?

>>6116024
i had an idea but i forgot

>>6116031
Maybe you could try to remember it. Unless you're fine with doing scribbles forever

>>6116039
He's doing it as some sort of troll while lurks /beg/ for alternative reasons.

>>6116039
i couldn't find the exact drawing but here is another work from the same artist that i was looking for that i wanted to draw like

>>6116039
no wait maybe not that drawing idk yet i cannot decide what i want to draw like

i gotta draw more muscly bitches

>>6115814
Yep, artof666k is hit. You're good bro, don't let anyone tell you you're not because this is the stuff concept art is made of. Very inspiring anon.

>>6115529
Is this reading well?

thoughts?

>>6116109
What show is that character from? The colours a bit flat

>>6116141
Wtf

>>6116109
how close is the light source supposed to be

>>6115839
I'd say leave rendering/shading for now and work on improving your base drawing.

>>6116141
pedo trace

I tried to apply as much feedback as I'm capable of understanding. Let me know what you think.

>>6116172
I looked at this with another monitor and the colors look way to saturated. My monitor is shit and seems to be washing out colors, causing me to mistakenly over saturate. Can someone else confirm?

>>6116201
My monitor is shit too but I dragged it over to my tablet and you're right. It's oversaturated and it looks like you tried to slightly shade the lower half of her face but you just made it the same value but blue, which makes it look like she has 5 oclock shadow. The hues on other parts of the skin are messed up too, like what should be highlights are orange but midtones are the same hue but magenta (which looks blue in the context of the image).

>>6115651
really good job, GMI

>>6115764
stop talking

>>6116167
Why does it look traced? I wasn't even trying to draw an underage girl. But I guess it does look like that.

>>6116172
idk, boring? I dislike it

>>6115529
dynamic sketching week 2 day 6

>>6116172
reminds me of looney toonies in a good way
nice color, at least in my opinion

This >>6115537 anon here again, was bored at work so cranked these two out, will use them for the base as practice for later.

>>6116272
you should probably learn more structure instead of symbol drawing anon, it'll help you when it comes to being able to manipulate the skull like that, and thus the eyes and nose

>>6116274
Try and believe me when I say I am trying to break my symbol drawing habits, going through different books, it just hasn't "clicked" yet. That's why I draw while I am at work, just to keep working on it to try and break it.

>>6116277
it doesn't look like you really tried to use shapes to build the face though, you did your loomis circles and then gave up after that

watch this and follow how he breaks it down into shapes and then builds from there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRmGBsy3MNk

you could probably mute the video too if you don't wanna listen to some faggot e-celeb, but that's a decent video for seeing how things get built

>>6116268
is this really the only thing you draw? Every day you spend 15 minutes to draw those blobs and that's it? Ngmi

>>6116278
Sorry, I should rephrase what I said:
I doodle at work just to get more drawing in, however, I do most of my serious practice at home. It's like, while I am at work, I just draw whatever and see how I am going with breaking what I know, while at home it is more serious grind. That said, I thank you for the video, it looks like it'll definitely help me. Thanks.

>>6116279
More than you ever draw.

>>6116282
instead of just doodling like that, focus on studying a specific area of the face, that way you don't just draw a face that's inaccurate and you don't learn something from; get the fundamentals of drawing eyes and the nose into your head and just spent that time drawing those without the loomis circles

once you've got a general idea of how to do them from different perspectives and using the shapes to create different sizes, work it into loomis

>>6116286
Nah dude i'm just telling you that you better use these things as warmups and then proceed to draw thing you like

>>6116279
He's GMI as a promotional artist for a ginger root company

It's just me or line control/confidence is necessary for artwork to look good?
You can see many artworks that aren't realistic or "right", but are appealing because the lines look like are there by deliberate decision.

>>6115864
Hey, alright

>>6116293
absolutely, the moment i removed smoothing entirely and forced myself to create more accurate lines, the better things started to look

>>6115864
When will zoomers be satisfied with just being a hvac tech or an electrician

>>6116279
>is this really the only thing you draw?
nah
>>6116289
i like this idea kek

I will draw today.

I have drawn today and it went alright.
Fuck lips though.

>Go to /soc/ and other NSFW boards
>Grab all the amatuer shit
>Trace and make everything anime
>Post on new twitter account
Whats the worst that could happened? I'd purposely change my art style of course so no one would know it was me. Would it be a commissioner finding out I traced?
Would they get mad because normal fags think Trace=bad? I'd still be giving them what they wanted and it's no different then me using 3d models in CSP...

>>6116268
Ignore the retards, practising fundamentals is literally the fastest way to improve

>>6116293
I think it's subjective, a lot of people think scribbly sketches look better than smooth lineart because they look more dynamic and the chicken scratches give the illusion of texture

>>6116335
If it was so legit, you wouldn't need to be posting your rationalizations in here, looking for validation. Simple as. At the core of your idea, it is undeniable that it stems from the fact you feel your skills are not good enough, and you want a shortcut into the social hiearchy status benefits of being perceived as ''talented'' which in a way, looked through a biological lense, it is basically a metaphorical rape of your potential, and a delusion to yourself and everyone around you.
>Reeee stop being a moralfag
Then stop being bothered by it

>>6116348
I dont care about being seen as good and I never have. I could give a shit less what people think about my art skills.
I want money without having to work hard because I'm lazy piece of shit. I just dont want to be lynched by a bunch of normal fags.

>>6116335
It's en vogue for normies to be like "yass queen no rules just tools!!!" about things like tracing, so your negative conjecture about tracing has nothing to do with normies' opinions and everything to do with the fact that YOU know it's not right and not satisfying.

>>6116340
thanks fren

>>6116329
Hair and clothes are the ones that get me the worst.

>>6116358
It really depends what they want out of it. If their motivation is money they could be on an OK track if they can find a way to actually make money from it. If their goal is becoming a better artist and fulfillment outside of just money then they aren't on the right path. That said, I doubt they would be able to make much from it and would expect them to give up in short order. Tracers of photos are in no short supply these days.

>>6116351
>I want money without having to work hard because I'm lazy piece of shit
Then pretend to be retarded and go on neetbuxs, why'd you choose a job in art to be lazy? Its odd
Go look in the trash, pick up random items, make up bullshit stories and sell them on ebay
I just do that as a hustle, I'd sell random paintings I fouind in the trash for 70$ or more, just by making up some bullshit about having found it in a haunted house and what not

>>6116386
based, when I was a kid my dad would scour goodwill for depression glass and hock it on ebay at about a 10000% markup

>>6115529

Just got a drawing tablet today, and decided to redraw some of my ocs + badly colour them. I know this looks kindergarten tier right now and theres a good few drawing courses im gonna start tomorrow, but whats my most pressing issue, my linework, anatomy, or colors?

>>6116410
Jojo vibes

Lewds mmmmmmm

>>6116436
thanks, refence araki alot

is this gesture?

>>6116447
yes.

>>6116447
definitely capturing the flow well, anatomys off a bit, but you should get the hang of it the more your practise, try and reference other artists gestures from youtube videos

>>6116455
I'm just making sure I have the basic idea of gesture before I do any more. I know literally nothing about anatomy and all that.

>>6116465
well its a good start, keep it up

How do you emulate artist styles? I'm still learning, but my lines always come out the same way, and I can never replicate what I see in front of me. This is my most recent work, and another anon reaffirmed that I needed to work on perspective, angles, and definition.

I'd like to have a more fluid sort of style, and possibly eliminate my sameface, but I don't really have any sort of confidence in my lines. When I trace over something is different to when I try and emulate it. Could someone point me in the right direction towards some resources for this area?

Everyone is retarded but me, I'm just below average

>>6116441
nice job, how long did it take

I don't have the attention span to focus on drawing for hours at a time, will I improve if I draw here and there throughout the day?

>>6116490
mindlessly drawing, no

>>6116491
does drawing from reference count as mindless?

>>6115560
hoggers
>>6115589
>>6115591
sick
>>6115619
tummy and hips erotic
>>6116071
>muscly bitches
hello? based department? also saved, that cutie on the left inspired me
>>6116400
>2480x3508
crop your shit lolibro, cute drawing though
>>6116410
the fact that despite the obvious /beg/ness this drawing still looks cool tells alot, good job anon!
>>6116441
you made her feet less "meaty" and also the butthole could be something more than a simple dot, otherwise looks great to me

>>6116506
oops I forgot to draw the knee, kek
well I'm gonna come back to it to attempt shading anyway so whatever

>>6116506
>the butthole could be something more than a simple dot

This. I imagine it's just a marker and not a complete depiction, but a lot of artists do make these stupid dot assholes. Or weird little dimples or they make it 1/10th of the size it should be. Anytime I see a butthole that's even remotely off in such a way I never look at any of the artists other works again. They are dead to me

test to see if i'm b&

>>6116346
The good "scribbly" artwork still seems to have deliberate lines, just retraced witg small offset.

>>6115529
an hour or so of gesture/line of action studies

How am I doing and how can I get more out of these sort of studies?

>>6116480
1 hr of fucking around and trying understand the form hahahaha

>>6116506
Thanks! Ill try to add more details to the butthole

Leaned a little too hard into anthro territory on this one, I think. I liked it better when it just looked like a regular pig stuffed into people clothes.

>>6115949
Knock yourself out. Remember to just have fun with it!

Is the anus too low? I don't have a pose ref so I keep trying from imagination.

more painting practice

>>6115537
KUYASHII

>>6115560
lel

Still working on this fuckin car. Paneling is a mess

>>6116544
Looks fine to me

>>6116252
Besides the over saturation, what do you suggest? What color should the midtones and highlights be? I just did what felt right and I don't have much understanding of color theory in regards to digital painting.

>>6116544
GOOSEb here again??

Anyone else just make a bunch of drawings and move on without actually painting them or doing lineart or whatever? I dread doing that so much that I just skip it and move on.

>>6116593
the fuck is going on

Hello /ic/, do you guys see any issues here that I should improve upon?

any good tips on how to draw female fingers/hands?
mine look like either sausages or boxes

>>6115960
It's nice to see you pushing your art style beyond the goofy eyes circle faces

Keep it up lunaticsoda

>>6116614
You should be striving to finish stuff at least some of the time, but your approach is still better than the person who spends weeks obsessing over one drawing.

>>6116613
Well, yeah, I'm a perma beginner.

>>6116621
Take my advice with a grain of salt as I'm /beg/ tier

I'd suggest using fewer scratchy lines unless you are trying to show texture - like I assume the grey shawl is hairy? But the leather jacket also comes off hairy because of the scratchy lines

Also, the arms look a little short, and the hands come off a little large.

The feet look a little flat - especially if the character is wearing military boots - again, I'm beg, but I use a little triangle when drawing feet where it meets the leg - it helps me visualize depth

also, I think you can use fewer wrinkles on the clothes - place them just where the joints are, and where the fabric is baggy

neat design though - looks like something out of stalker or fallout

>>6116172
>Ultra thick linework
>Two total brushes used: Hard round and spray for shading.
>Needlessly small rib cage even for art style

>>6116702
>>Two total brushes used

youre saying this like its a bad thing...

>>6116651
RICCA OATS

i gotta dRAW MORE RICCA OATS

>>6116714
If you are doing 20 panels/week with 3x as much content as that image has sure.

If you are doing single works then there's no excuse to be that lazy.

>>6116659
The thing about finishing that bothers me the most is there are so many different ways to do it and each one requires a lot of study and effort to achieve a decent looking result. I don't even know which style I would want to finish it in. Watercolor, cell shading, realistic brushes, whatever else there is. I'm also at the point where my art isn't even great enough that I feel it's worth taking the time to color and shade it all in. I know I'm going to need to do it eventually though. So maybe I'm just finding excuses to put it off. Art really is a lifetime journey if you want to take it seriously.

I made these without ruler and only using ghosting method because fuck Irshad.
I am still not good at drawing because permaprebegdom.

I am not going to buy the ellipses guidelines lmao

I feel like I am missing something, or something it’s simply not right, would appreciate some advice

>>6116766
I think practicing drawing shapes in 3D like cubes, spheres, etc will really help you. You drew the body flat/straight on and mirrored both sides. So even if the proportions were good and the anatomy was decent it would still look awkward. Because rarely does anyone make a character in such a way. Generally you want to show imbalances in weight and tense/loose areas, bending, etc. Also I would definitely practice with 3D objects and mannequins before you start getting too far into clothing, but that's just me.

learning how to do backgrounds. why isn't this working

>>6116770
thanks

>>6116772
wrong values

Tonights face. Kinda overworked with the markers, should probably go back to watercolor

>>6116506
Wait, is this what I'm supposed to be doing when copying bridgmeme? I could be going so much faster

>>6116783
I have no idea, I'm just having fun with bridgman now, my previous copies were closer to originals but trying to copy everything exactly 1:1 started to burn me out
I didn't finish this one yet though

>>6116786
Ah, copy that. I like it. Keep on chugging

>>6116506
looks flat

>>6116544
looks too low to me. even with that level of gape i dont think it should be visible from that angle. also hips look disconnected from the torso because you cant bend your body laterally at a 90 degree like that

I don't own a computer and don't really want to. What's an easy way to mirror an image across a line?

>>6116820
Photo it and flip

>>6116824
But that leaves me with an image on a phone, not on paper

>>6116830
Then the only option is to flip the paper put that light thing under it that mangakas use and trace it

>>6116758
you need to do gesture and facial anatomy practice as well.

Good evening fellow /beg/cels

Apparently woman have bad anatomy IRL where they have super small heads and giraffe necks.

Wow apparently women also don't have brains. This explains more than artistic stylization but also human history.

>>6116687
Alright. Thanks, I'll keep the triangle foot tip in mind. Do you(or anyone else) have any thoughts on the face in the bottom left?

Drew the turd in the other thread

I think womans noses and jaws are more pronounced via angle, but they have smaller heads

i should stop making rakugakis all day and start actually put effort into drawing and learning
I mean its fun but i need to imrove

>>6116941
what paper did you use for the water coloring

>>6116948
Are you Japanese? Why not just say scribble or roughs or something in English?

>>6116791
actually, here is one of my previous bridgememes for reference, I'd guess this is a more "proper" way to do them
>>6116795
I know fren, work in progress, I'll try to finish it tomorrow, I'm slow as fuck so drawing anything takes eternity, taking breaks for vidya doesn't help either lol

>>6116949
That is markers on bristol board anon

>>6115560
amazing

>>6116961
Because i like that word and it's not just scribbles but mindless scribbles as far i know which is exactly what i am doing
regarding japanese part i'm not from england or america i'm not even from europe but i'm here writing and talking to you in english

>>6116966
how much water can it take before warping?

>>6116972
Fuck off, why are you doing this

>>6116971
Yes, English is implied here since it's an English board. This isn't about you specifically. I was just curious why you chose such an unusual word when there are many English choices to use. Not saying you shouldn't or anything. I just found it unusual.

>>6116265
Understandable.

>>6116270
Thanks!

>>6116702
I didn't use spray for shading. Linework is done with a single textured brush and all painting is done with a hard flat brush to get a cell shaded effect with the occasional gradient thrown in. Thick

Its is efficient and matches the style. Much better than my previous paintings in which I would use layers and layers of opacified muddy brushes.

You're right, the rib cage is too small. Too far in to fix it, but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

>>6116974
Just trying to find out about water coloring anon, no need to be abrasive

>>6116987
They said it was markers not watercolor. I think you missed that and they thought you were trolling.

>>6116993
The previous works that they posted used watercolor, just assume that they use the same paper with the markers.

>>6115864
He's losing it

>>6116987
>>6116993
Now I feel bad, sorry anon. I dont use watercolor on bristol board normally. I use arches grain satin and it is a proper slut for water, can recommend. 300 gsm it doesnt buckle when taped down

>>6115924
i am a shit but there are times when i feel like that too them boom i improve somehow even if it's slow any improvement is fine for me

2 weeks since I started drawing still can't draw a convincing human without reference

I'm having problems with Linear A. Can you decipher this?

>>6117000
thanks buddy

>>6117007
>2 weeks
I know he is just trolling but if not nigga you won't be able to draw a convincing human until like 3-5 years of drawing and studying

>>6117011
you can learn in 2-3 months if you have the GENE

>>6116820
>I don't own a computer and don't really want to.
Then how did write that po-
...
Right, phones.
Shit, I'm getting old.

>>6116305
I don't identify as a blue collar laborer.

>>6116983
It's also a weeb board. A smattering of Japanese words in romaji is also to be expected.

>>6117009
Appears to be Minoan for "ur a faget"

>>6115529

>>6117044
Adult females dont have majority of cheek fat distribution below nose. You can still draw in this manner if it's more comfortable to you though.

>>6117023
Ok troon

>>6116766
it just looks like some of the proportions are off

excuse the lazy mirror redline here- but from what I can tell the torso doesn't "match" the head size, and as a result everything else feels off, like the length of the legs and size of the feet and hands

breasts don't usually appear so high up on the body too, and obviously your picture here is slightly skewed compared to the mirror image I've drawn here.

But hey that's hard to do - good start keep at it - it's a good pose to test anatomy, but I'd suggest looking at actual references, as it's a very "uncomfortable" pose - like something straight out of a 3D modeling/t-pose esque sorta thing

Dropping the full page
Love doodling things on one canvas for couple of days
Feels like filling up sketchbook but with ctrl z

>>6116772
this looks rad - your hues/saturation may be off but otherwise, it looks cool

also love your take on the pose and haircut

>>6116772
Apart from the values being too light (or rather too low contrast- the parts corresponding to the lighter parts of the ref are correct), finer detail/texturing on the paving stones where it's visible helps sell that it's glossy pavement and not just a nondescript grey surface with some mottling, and the reflection of the hedge should contain more of the the hedge's orange hue.

>>6115664
2 left feets...

>>6117088
>people think I'm a footfag because I know a lot about shoes and like drawing feet
>looked at anon's image for like a minute and didn't notice the two left feet
checkmate normies, my fetishes are way more degenerate than that

>>6117095
Sounds like exactly the kind of thing a footfag WOULD say.

males vs females. Going to do a finished work tonight.

>>6117114
looks like the rough for a sick children's book illustration

>>6117135
ty

>>6117113
I like having the female jaw ascend at 35 degrees and then go vertical, like the far right one does here.

Ya like magic, anon?

My first non digital sketch in a while. What do you think guys? Its mokou!

>>6117135
Here’s a thing I did awhile ago

>>6117154
Cute

>>6115529
aaaaaahhhhhhhhh

1 year ago

>>6117312
today

>>6117312
>>6117314
big gains but still a lot to work on

>>6117314
Great progress, love to see it.

>>6117314
Rendering is good and you've obviously improved a lot at faces and gesture, but her right arm is really messed up. Actually the arm on the righthand side of both drawings is like that, so it might be an issue that would be solved by flipping the canvas throughout your process, or maybe in both cases you were attempting foreshortening, in which case that's probably the next thing you should work on.

>>6117317
yeah definately, mostly less black lineart and better shading. Does anyone have tips for shaded brushes?

>>6117155
the perspective is good, but you should work on cleaner lines and reduce the shoulder on the right

I'm ok at drawing with pencils but shit on my tablet, how do I cope?

>>6117343
draw more on tablet
or rope idk

Lets make drawing GREAT AGAIN!

>>6117314
Great

>>6117155
What drives anons into going back to retro drawing?

>>6117114
I dont know if that was the intention but the way you drew that house suggests its alive and preparing to move forward. Like its alive. Probably perspective is off but thats what gave it soul

>>6117061
Great!

>>6116941
Nice trad, but her mouth is off. Or her left cheek.

>>6116861
Are you releasing these in some sort of comic?

>>6116621
The good rule about text is to never fit more than 60~80 letters on one line. Why? Something about readability and brain having troubles following the lines if they are really wide. It also makes it easily readable even on small screens like phones.

>>6116527
Thumbs up

>>6116478
Literally copy their drawings? Notice how their lines connect (or not connecting), if they are thick at the start or middle and any detail you can pick up?

>>6116335
How do you plan drawing the commissions if all you can do is tracing? How will you draw something what wasn't drawn before?

>>6115764
>are you limiting yourself to using three values only?
Yes because it was literally the project's restriction. Anything DODSON requires i shall deliver!

>>6117343
Drawing on tablet is like new drawing tool. You have to get used to it and get gud with it. Draw more

Here is what I did today , minus warm up, with the top picture including the construction lines. How is it?

>>6117350
Its pretty bad. How long did this take? Are you drawing with references?

How can I draw when I'm sleepy? It gets hard to focus and make good lines

am I doing this right?

just a doodle

>>6117391
No, you are just poorly copying the lines instead of understanding the underlying forms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpnP28b3riY

>>6117392
Enjoy your teens while you still can.
When you grow up you won't find time or motivation to sit on your bed and doodle.

>>6117397
I get your point, and Proko said it right, I'm still too much a beg to copy Bridgman the right way. But I already read Hampton and some anatomy books while trying to replicate them to some extent. Am I supposed to memorize all muscle groups before going into bridgman or what?

>>6117391
Your doing fine, accuracy comes with practice. >>6117397 is a buzzword spouting retard, you are clearly thinking about the forms, even if it isn't perfect

>>6117391
Edge aside volume of practice matters more than specific studies because 95% of people get burnt out of art, so just gesture practice in general is road to grandmaster.

>>6117406
You need to work on your observation, form and basic mark-making skills. Then you can learn to construct the underlying forms to understand the anatomy.

Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 10

Not my best looking faces, but I'm a little tired from work, and decided to do Loomis' 3-circle exercise without copying his references. Not sure what a good balance is between following Loomis' examples and coming up with original faces myself.

>>6117389
time travel 9 hours

>>6117411
I think he's a good point actually. There are lines I didn't actually understand the meaning behind when copying
>>6117412
I'm planning to go through his books anyway, not just this one, and I feel at some point I will have to translate gestures into fleshed bodies anyway.
>>6117421
Thanks, I tried to copy that one in an hour to draw more of them instead of getting bogged down on a single one, but I will try to pay more attention to accuracy, shapes and orientations.

>>6117422
Only do 1/3 and then try to apply Loomis to face references. You wanna start grinding face references as soon as possible because it's a cancer that takes a long time.

>>6117391
>>6117406
I think you're on your way, just make sure you keep doing your best to understand what he's doing with his marks. Every mark is there to clearly illustrate something. As you start to understand what he's trying to communicate, it'll get faster and easier; you'll also appreciate his drawings more

Should I be using a charcoal brush or something for digital gestures? Is it easier to identify mistakes with a thicker brush? The brush I use is really thin, so I'm not quite sure if I can accurately identify any mistakes I may be making. I'm trying to reduce the amount of strokes I make, for instance. It doesn't look that bad to me, but I could be overlooking it because my lines are so thin.

pic related, layers are doubled so they're twice as bold as normal, though I made them smaller; They're usually the size of the page.

>>6115529
Rusty, a rooster from the old CBC puppet show The Friendly Giant. He lives in the Giant's book bag and plays a harp.

>>6117429
>There are lines I didn't actually understand the meaning behind when copying
But there are lines that you did. Most of your brain's processing power is taken up by trying to get your lines accurate, rather than thinking through the forms. That's okay, you'll get better at accuracy and will be able to devote more brainpower to the forms. But you should have at least a rudimentary knowledge of anatomy first. For example, Bridgman tends to draw the inside of the thigh with two c-curves and the outside with one. If you know your anatomy, you know that's because he's indicating the rhythm dictated by the sartorious as it runs along the inside of the thigh between the adductor muscles and the vastus medialis. If you haven't already I would look at some Morpho and some Hampton. Not the anon you were replying to btw.

>>6117074
thanks for the crit anon. does the texturing look alright in this new one?

>>6117062
thank you :)

>>6116777
thanks anon. tried to fix that

Haven’t done anime in like a year

any recs for figure drawing? i want to draw like pic related. i see the one in OP, good place to start?

>>6117642
Vilppu is the only one that teaches methods closer to the classic methods so try his stuff and see if you like it. His books and video courses are all here on /ic/ generals

I woke up today and feel like I'm drawing worse than I was last year. My god it's so bad, how the fuck do you get worse.

>>6117680
post comparison

>>6117680
Post your work so we can see for ourselves, there's a very real chance that you might be overacting since you must be improving in some other areas to the point that the areas that you're not improving on are becoming much more apparent.

>>6117348
Yes
Once I finish the first chapter I will upload it somewhere
For now they are here https://mega.nz/folder/QsQHERxY#CJxIpUWFMbKoyuBSvjPDeg

Dude on the left is referenced with multiple sketches.
Dude on the right isn't referenced and line art first.
Any thoughts?

I've got a technical issue.
So I've got my lineart layer, then my shading layer (flat grey tones with another masked layer where the shading actually is)

Problem is, if I put my flat colors on top of it all and turn on a blending mode, it doesn't show my gray shading because the skin color I'm using is pale/close to white.

How do I make grayscale shading show through a white color?

>>6117751
Or to explain this better, how would you apply color to this picture using layers, considering the skin color is meant to be very pale?

>>6117154
But the hands though anon, everything else looking good....but the hands.

>>6117748
They both look like earthbound enemies

>be me
>want to draw my favourite character
>find this board
>get the books
>learning disability keeps me from actually understanding the excercises and, you know, learning.
>'just draw' doesnt work, no idea how to start, most likely autism
>attention disorder keeps me from being focused for more than a couple minutes
>0 completed drawings
>0 progress
so how am i doing

>>6117765
sounds about right for /ic/
wagmi

>>6117755
There's some other stuff wrong too

The eyes are spaced quite far apart - the chin is wonky the mouth Is placed weird

The hands like you said

It shows competence - but it's flawed, more practice and refining would raise it up a level

>>6117765
If you have adhd or whatever maybe do pomodoro techniques

Windows has a "focus session" timer under the clock tool thats specifically for this - it bakes focus sessions into small digestible times with built in breaks

Maybe also checkout krenz for the drawing aspect - it's basically just find simple cartoon characters you like, draw a box around them and break them down into shapes to make it easier to copy them

Keep at it ygmi

>>6117061
Blog?

>>6117751
>shading
>whole pic is drawn in one same gray color
Anon... you think you shaded but you didnt. There are no shades. Try actually using three very distinct values (white, grey, very dark grey) to force yourself into actual light mapping like i did here >>6115651 (and dont worry, you can later easily ease up the tones with brightness-contrast-balance filters all drawing apps have so the tones arent so drastically apart in values).

And to answer your question: try different layer modes. Color burn, multiply, add. And not just on the layer with the colors, try changing mode on the layer with the shades and put the color layer under it. And ofc it needs to have the layer with the colors or with the shades to have transparency in it.

>>6115864
I know that feel, but I was blessed with big dick and nigger attitude so nobody cares.
Still grinding 7-8h every day. Getting better after 16months of torture.

>>6117765
you'd fit right in

going back to Hampton and doing some gestures

>>6117756
I was going for more of a Lisa type look but thanks for responding anon.

>stop symbol drawing entirely
>build using shapes
>pay attention to where lines should go and how to build those shapes
>instantly improve
is it really that easy?

>>6117765
pop some pills for your attention disorder and fucking draw

>>6117871
Ritalin dont do shit for me and i cant get adderall in my country. What else is there

>>6117399
That's a fucking lie, I'm 35 and going to doodle right now while my girl is making aftersex burgers with fries.

>>6117878
how should I know? maybe go to a doctor?

>>6117880
>having sex
faggot

you're right about the age and motivation/time thing though, it's just an excuse for the weak and lazy to continue doing nothing because "MUH JOB"

>>6117880
based as fuck
gmi

Laugh.

>>6117865
getting out of second grade level? yeah
now keep drawing for another half decade

>>6117916
pretty much, i work in the film industry in camera and lighting so perspective and light is something i can quite easily carry over, but i noticed for a while that while i'd still build with shapes, i'd often accidentally fall back into symbol drawing somewhere and it'd hold me back

>can't get a chest to look right in perspective
>draw just a simplified ribcage instead
>instantly looks 100x better
holy fuck fundamentals are real

>>6117880
Imagine being 35 and still lowkey bragging about sex.

>>6117899
This is your brain on AI.

>>6117899
good job anon, keep going
but do practice hands

How the fuck am i meant to use Loomis' fun with a pencil book. I may actually be demented because I have no idea what im meant to be doing and/or understanding.

>>6117948
trace, write boomer jokes as dialogues, repeat

I will draw today.

>>6117935
Yeah I love it when it's kinky
There's just something about girl preparing her anus for me.
According to her I'm obsessed but I've never heard her complaining much after.
I also like masturbating a lot, feels like holidays for me.

It's a good day

I have occasionally lurked on here, but I feel like I should post something I posted for some feedback (especially in terms of rendering and linework).

think I can fix the arm on the left without redrawing the whole thing? it looks kinda fucked

Someone asked me to draw his oc as a femboy, what so you think? I fear that the bulge looks to big and as if he shitted himself

Someone asked me to draw his oc as a femboy, what so you think? I fear that the bulge looks to big and as if he shitted himself

bros why are faces so hard

>>6117314
master

>>6117422
Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 11

Taking the advice of >>6117430, only the top left was taken from Loomis, the other three used actors as reference.

some gestures

>>6117765
apply practices to references, IE people posing on google images.

I fucked and I don't know how to fix it. I don't understand how people can easily produce lineart and render quickly. This is more than 7 hours of work.

>>6118055
Women's faces tend to be way smaller in general. It's tricky because some of their features seem to be larger by comparison.

see
>>6116900
>>6116903

I'd say female jaws only need to descend down 1/6th the distance of the loomis ball. Their jaws are actually more straight than males, just with smaller chins.

>>6118110
that is, you only need to add roughly 1/6th of the loomis ball diameter to define a female jawline, and then I like to give them a more vertical brain, whereas male jaws descend further.

>>6118103
You did good for a learner. The arm sizes are wrong, and because you don't do shading, the head size isn't defined making it impossible to correct because you likely keep confusing the side of the face with the back of the head.

Womans hair does start close to the fact and above the ear.

Just move onto your next works, define the size of the body parts before worrying about stuff like hair.

>>6117857
Make sure to also do gesture from reference (observation) and work on line confidence. That way you are improving at three different skills at once.

I drew an anime

>>6118157
Glad to see you're trying new poses. Keep it up.

>>6117977
tried fixing it, still looks a bit off
better luck next time

>>6117599
It helps but it's still missing the saturation of the ref. You wouldn't happen to be red-green colourblind would you?

>>6117886
Good post, fully agreed. Most adults work 40 hours a week tops because employers don't like paying overtime and they work only one fulltime (33-40 hour) job. When I was working 60 hours a week I still found time to draw, go hiking and (struggle to) learn music composition. AND shitpost on 4chan and play videogames and drink in the bar daily. I don't know what the hell other people do all day, sit on their ass starting into space?

>>6118165
Idk who you think I am this is the first drawing I ever post here. But thanks anyway, friend :]

>>6118188
I'm not too good myself but I think the right side (forehand?) of the right hand (audience perspective, so the hand sticking up) should curve a little more in rather than out, unlike the left side which should stay curving out like it is already. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, though, but maybe it'll help you.

>>6118213
Did you do the hand pose yourself? Not him but the back of my hand is flat when I do that pose, but I'm underweight so there's a fair chance heavier people would have a slight outward curve there. The overall shape of the hand including the fingers is convex either way.

>>6117397
I don't find this video helpful, it's confusing
>don't just copy Bridgman, understand what he's trying to show you
ok what is he showing me then? how do i do that
>where's the tendon? where's the plane? you didn't copy Bridgman accurately at all, this is wrong
But I thought I'm not supposed to copy him?

Also, what do I do when I'm drawing something else other than a bodybuilder. What happens when forms are super subtle? I looked at my own lanky elbow right now and God be my witness there is no tendon visible, my arm is just a fucking cylinder. im a stickman. How would I draw that?

Another individual. Used a thinner pigment liner for this, kinda like it

>>6118233
I did it and am also underweight and it curves in a little when I make it naturally, but I can remind myself to stop and keep it fully straight but it requires more thinking.

>>6118213
looking at it again you may be right, I'll keep a slight curve but flatten it a little

>>6118267
Maybe the bones just vary a bit. In fact I'm sure they do because I looked on my other hand and it's slightly convex, and the convex part is mostly the bone of the carpals.

>>6118110
>>6118111
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind going forward. What I've read so far has been kinda laser-focused on old men.

>>6118499
>What I've read so far has been kinda laser-focused on old men.
despite being /beg/, i know enough that men are probably the best thing to observe first given their features and structure are more apparent in comparison to women, you gain the fundamentals of drawing men, then you should be able to move into drawing women

new threade

is it still symbol drawing to draw from reference without construction, or is it something else?

>>6118674
if you're drawing what you're seeing it's not symbol drawing by definition

>>6118507
this please

>>6118507
>>6118789
we are only on page 7

Is drawing 3 hours a day enough?

>>6118257
that looks awesome, reminds me of a courtroom sketch

>>6118830
enough for what

>>6115529
What do you think, /ic/?

>>6118897
way better than my stuff

>>6118900
Okay thanks I guess, is there anything that can be improved still? Also show your stuff too, I'm sure I can give you some feedback too, if you want :)

>>6118897
rin?

>>6118914
Who? It's just an OC lmao but it kinda ended up looking like Saber from Fate

Carving the lights and shadows is fun

>>6119000
Checked and agreed

>>6119100
augh this fucker, fuck you ya fucking piss me off

>>6118103
Shiettt those persona lines looking noice. Maybe I should be looking to Soejima a bit more.

>>6119057
You were doing so well too

I'm disappointed

studies for construction as well as trying to beat my awful same-face syndrome.

they look okay? how well do they match the refs?

>>6119362
It looks pretty good, but you should really include the rest of the shadows to the lips to not make them look too blump (mainly noted in the Asian woman). Speaking of the Asian woman, you should also make the bottom eyelid go up some more, and the black woman's right bottom eyelid should have a curvature on the top. Otherwise, this is pretty accurate.

Fuck foliage. Waste of digital paper. Hehe draw billion tiny leaves. Holy shit fuck flowers.

Figure studies.

>>6118157
>>6119513

cute!

In the Vilppu exercise, how do you do the twitsted and warped cubes accurately? Any good references for this kind of thing?

i drew my first thing how is it

>>6119708
IT'S PRETTY GOOD ANON

Do I have to use the loomis head method? Just not working out for me.

>>6119708
You need to improve your gesturing

see
>>6114319

Who is right and who is wrong?

>>6119765

>>6119775
No but pretty much every head drawing method uses a line to define head size and one for primary direction angle.

My biggest problem with loomis is that the relative position of the features on the circle changes based on the gesture.

I'd say practice referencing the sides of head to memorize the proportions of males vs females. If you memorize the proportions of their heads from the side, it becomes a lot easier to draw them in weird angles.

How did people draw heads before Loomis was born?

>>6119809
A circle with two dots and a line. The birth of Loomis heralded the Renaissance, when people finally learned what a head looks like

I am doing this right? I’m so lost.

So I feel like I'm making an error with the structure but I'm not sure what.

>>6119781
no

Is this a joke? He basically already drew the cube.

I can't understand ribcages. Is this the location of this thots ribcage? I've spent maybe 25 minutes trying to draw it properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cwFzWNzX7Q

>have some time before going to work
>"might as well practice line confidence"
>somehow come up with this
Looks kinda nice. I assume I would have to make the head taller to make her look more human.

>>6120007
A quick fix.
Flirtatious goblinas, anyone?

>>6120007
As I said to an anon earlier, you want to go to sideways face references to memorize the proportions as fast as possible.

https://www.google.com/search?q=female+side+of+head

https://www.google.com/search?q=male+side+of+head

then go to images obvs.

The reason I recommend memorizing the exact side profile face proportions is that unless you know their side comparisons, you wont be able to draw a face at a wierd angle properly for hours.

>>6120029
ok, but what's exactly wrong with drawing?

>>6120007
Some examples:
1. Chin isnt forward angled
2. Chin is never actually a triangle
3. Eyewell length is okay, but the brow will be defined
4. Back of skull end just below ears. In your pic the back of the skull is flush with the jawline. IRL the neck goes longer up the back than front due to the trapezius muscle group.
5. Your neck descends after the jawline. If we look at
>>6119926
You can see the jaw itself curves for a bit and then goes vertical to the ear, but there is flesh that is parralel to the deck before descending into the neck. So you want to draw an angled jaw, with a neck portion parallel to the deck until the actual neck begins.
6. Its very important you specify where the eyelids are and where the brow are. Not only are they not parallel here, but the eyes themselves are different sizes.
7. Forshortening an eye is very difficult to do correctly, but at a lot of head angles the eyes won't actually be visibly foreshortened because the change in distance from the camera is extremely minute. Take a look at the difference between the size of the eyes on this woman.
>>6119926

8. It's tempting to not draw the portion of the mouth to the right of her nose because, due to face angle, that would be visibly forshortened, but you need to learn how to angle the forshortened portion of the mouth.
9. The nose and mouth aren't properly aligned, which again, is because you didn't want to draw the right portion of her forshortened mouth
10. The jaw descent angle on to the left of her mouth is incorrect. Shoot for a 25 degree flat descent until the ear, when the jaw then goes verticle.
11. Women are smoothbrains who do have curving foreheads. But you can draw them as uber brains with larger foreheads if you want.
12. The mouth is actually NEVER flat lines. Not from any camera angle. It is bad practice to ever draw mouths as parallel to the deck because they are never visually parallel to the deck.
13. Neck too thin. Remember to draw the traps.

>>6120068
Holy shit, that's a lot.
Guess I will never get good.

>>6120073
Getting good is drawing daily. Nothing else matters.

>>6120076
>Nothing else matters.
Not getting a long list of issues would be nice, tho.
I want to share my art with people, so I want it to be appealing.

Frankly the reason I can’t do drawabox is that the person running it sounds insane with some of the “rules” he has, like using fine liners (which are impractically expensive where I live, but at least he concedes you can use a ballpoint instead) or not using a sketchbook because keeping a fuckton of loose printer paper in your workspace is somehow supposed to be more practical

I’m doing Loomis and some course I got from NMA instead, and it even has some of the same mark-making exercises that are in the first lesson of drawabox only it doesn’t explicitly tell you to grind them like a lunatic (I get that it’s still good to practice but much of drawabox seems like things you can sum up in a few sentences and just practice on your on rather than needing a whole course for it)

>>6120110
This is /ic/ where you get better from honest feedback. When you shareyour pic int the family whatsapp you will get your praise

>>6120203
What I meant is that I want to get good enough to not get so much criticism. I don't want to draw chris-chan tier stuff every day.

NEW THREAD
>>6120272
>>6120272
>>6120272

Drawing on company time

>>6115529
Is there any merit to just doing doodles?

My heart is not in these at all - but I sometimes see little sketch pages and I'm always drawn to the goofy doodles

>>6120029
>>6120007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBv5z0Y2odE
Not that memorizing proportions or doing studies is ever bad, but you don't have to overcomplicate things.

Elf isn't bad for a /beg/ attempt at a low angle on a face, though. I rewatched Hellsing Ultimate recently and I was laughing my ass off at how they wanted dramatic angles but didn't know how to draw under the chin so they'd just stretch the faces down and around so the chin ended at the neck.