/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6075887
>Thanks. I have hard time visualising things like that.
Get some modeling clay and try to shape a wolf. I'm serious, helps with 3D visualization.

well hello there

>>6096931
Great OP! I'm glad to be in it.


>>6088154
>next session
>make a bunch of macros
>whenever someone triggers an attack of opportunity I call a macro
>"Brenda is triggered. 'Did you just ASSUME my reach area?'"
>Most of the party finds it amusing
>we raid the thieves' hideout after the villain and her lieutenants leave
>they are dealing colored-themed drugs
>party uses trap springers to test drugs
>one of them has an overdose and his eyes melt into a waterfall of color
>EDGE, in a surprising turn of events, decides to abandon the party and take the now blind thug to a city so he could be healed
>he was also getting sick, so he also dropped the group temporarily
>We keep delving into the caves
>they were huge
>took us three months to get through them
>save a squirreltaur merchant from giant spiders
>each of us get a neat gift in return

Can I get into the furry coom market even if I’m not a furry?

>>6097261
STOP ASKING THIS QUESTION EVERY FUCKING THREAD

>>6097291
then just answer him

>>6096931
Lol whoever did this thanks, I love it.

>>6097261
No because you’ll make atrocious soulless shit.
Focus on what you like. if you wanna make bank, go study economics

Any architects?

>>6097423
me

>>6097291
It’s my first time asking that question here

>>6097304
Fair but what if I try to get to know the community? Is furaffinity still the best furry website to immerse myself?

>>6097423
Hot

How many of you create clothing that logically works with the furry characters? Like backless shirts for winged characters or glasses that actually shape to their heads and aren't just floating.

>>6097688
i draw naked people 90% of the time, but i want to start doing furry fashion

been working on this about a hour, might come back to it and touch up more

>>6097688
Anyone who entertains the idea of humans with wings already knows they make no logical sense so trying to make the fantasy believable is kind of moot

>>6097456
If you legitimately don't like furry art the furry art you draw, both SFW and especially coom, will be missing a core aspect that people WILL notice.

If you like the art you can succeed, you dont have to label yourself a furry one way or the other.

updated sooner than i thought

>>6097261
>Can I get into the furry coom market even if I’m not a furry?
Don't listen to the retards replying, non-furries drawing furshit often ends up being better since their tastes haven't become inbred and skewed by years of autism.

Developing a new style for my pile. Trying to learn proportions and shapes using digitigrade from a guy that I saw on twitter plus the faces and expressions from another japanese guy that remind me a lot of tableguy, but more streamlined, with my own spin on it.

It's...Okay. I like how the digitigrade look but the proportions still need more work.

>>6097423
This is epic, blog

Didn’t finish

>>6097688
You seem to have a good start there. The question becomes, "Where can I put weight on this without disrupting function" (esp. for glasses and the like) and "Where can I put an opening in this, and how far must it go to keep anything from getting inside it? (clothes with extra holes)

Then there are digitigrade / unguligrade shoes, which are their own mile of hassle.

I've heard the word 'furgonomics' bandied about regarding this, but it's worthless for googling.

>>6098361

>>6097423
I recognize that tummy

>>6098670
Yummy Tummy

>>6096454
If you decided to go for the course, draw even if you have only 15 minutes, otherwise would be demoralizing restarting after a long period of inactivity. If you still need to decide, do you need help with that?

>>6097176
OMG you made him so cute ªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªªª

>>6097456
If you don't even like SFW furry, I don't really know why you would take a decision like this, turning your drawing into a punishment to yourself

>>6098361
Nice callback anon

>>6098768
>If you don't even like SFW furry,
Nah I don't dislike furry art in general. I like any art as long as it looks good to me like picrel. I just can't relate to the whole fursona thing

>>6098788
Oh then its a nonissue. You dont have to have a fursona or anything.
If you wanna draw anthros, do it! how you wanna interact with furries is a choice only you can make

>>6098788 >>6098792
Hehehe, indeed, you seem almost to treat the fursona thing as a necessary and sufficient condition to be a furry. I do realise that "furry" is a word used to indicate a lot of things and leads to confusion.

For istance, is used to indicate antropomorphic animals (even the ones with feathers and scales), but we do consider "furry" even characters with human-like intelligence (Balto, Simba, and so on). The term is applied for fans of the furry stuff, sooo, a person that likes furry is *drum roll* a furry. The fursona thing is completely optional.

For your question, to get known with the least sites, I'd go for Furaffinity and e621/926. Twitter has a good reach too, but that site is the culmination of the human tragedy, I am at the point that I don't trust users that have only Twitter

>>6098805
>Twitter has a good reach too, but that site is the culmination of the human tragedy
I agree, that's why I only use it for following art blogs
>I'd go for Furaffinity and e621/926
Thanks for this!

>>6096931
to anon who said to sculpt animal heads with modelling clay to visualize it easier how do i do it? Do i need specific tool or need to learn sculpting skill? I'm curious and sounds like fun too

>>6098042
fuck this looks good. blog?

>>6098049 this goes for you too. -> >>6099488

>>6098768
>draw even if you have only 15 minutes
it just feels like a waste of time drawing this little per day, considering i used to draw for ~2hrs a day
>do you need help with that?
yes, i do. i can't even think about it properly.
so far i've been regretting the "decision" to give up art.

Which furry artist draws the best expressions?

>>6099687

>>6099534
Let's see. What you want to do with art? Working as a professional in the industry? It will not be easy getting this skill as becoming a code monkey, but I'm sure you can do it.

If your end goal is to work only with furry commissions, forget this.
Keep in mind that you need to acquire enough money to sunstain yourself even after retirement. This is totally possible if you live in a place with a weak currency and/or a low cost of life (in these conditions you can get even more than a doctor, depends). Sure, if you live in the US and need to pay an ambulance, good luck with that!

Talking about the course, I think it is the easier path, but this might give a huge regret, a regret that you will feel forever.
As always, how good is this path, depends from the country. Where I live, a degree in computer engineering (the STEM meme of /ic/, yup) is useless and gives a life of exploitation and low satisfaction.

I said to you how I would think, maybe you can be more thoughtful.
This is an hard decision that will greatly affect your future. This decision is up to you, we can't.

>it just feels like a waste of time drawing this little per day
Not drawing at all for a long period would be negative for sure, but probably you would have more than 15 minutes. Don't give up, you don't need to, alright? Good luck!

not happy with the face but at the same time i couldn't figure out why it looks off. maybe asking for help, thanks in advance.

>>6099895
Not enough cranium behind the snout, make the back of the head and the fluff making it up larger

>>6099769
>Working as a professional in the industry?
i want to work as a concept artist especially for games, and maybe get some extra money off commissions, etsy, etc. I know it's essentially unsustainable to live off only commissions. I live in brazil, living off art here is pretty much impossible. I don't even like programming, it just gives a shit ton of money around here, and 16 yo me thought that's what brings happiness.
>but this might give a huge regret, a regret that you will feel forever
that's the part i'm the most afraid of, I used to be into art, then I stopped to play vidya, and I regret it a lot nowadays. Can't imagine what's this cranked up to eleven.
I might go to cs just for the sustainability. Anyhow, thanks for the help

>>6099998
>brazil
>living off of art is impossible
literally every single 1st worlder has it worse. 2-4 hours for a 60-80 dollar commission is completely achievable and 10 of those a month would probably let you live pretty ok in brazil.
Just need like 10k twitter followers or so until you can get a steady stream of comms.
If you go the programming route you can become a sol indie gamedev with art+that. Even a moderate success is probably gonna be a big payday for a brazilian.

>>6099998
>I live in brazil, living off art here is pretty much impossible
are you dumb? i liv ein brazil ad make a comfortable living cuz 1 dollar = 5 reais, i earn more than my friends that studied law and software eng, but there are months where commissions are few and i got nno real stability so there is a trade off

also programmig isnt ista money here either, good paying jobs are only for those who are actually skilled, the market is saturated with mediocre programmers fighting for scraps, plus it depends a lot on where you live
these past few years its always "go study programming to get a good job" and what happens? millions begin to enter the area amking it super saturated, entry level jobs pay very little sometimes less than working at a supermarket cuz again, a lot of saturation means companies can afford to pay less
good paying CS jobs are only for skilled programmers with several years of experience and even then it isnt a guarantee, please do not delude yourself cuz of the internet CS echo chamber

you are so young and it shows, forget making money with art, just draw and paint to improve for the next 4-5 years
also get a degree, doesnt have to be CS cuz trust me, it can be as soul sucking as any other career, but just get a degree in something you dont hate as a safety net, when life turns to shit its easier to get back up having a diploma than having a furry portfolio

>>6100015
200-300 dollars is already minimum wage
with 600-700 you earn the same as the average comfy government state worker
1k dollars a moth and you are top 20% earners

living in this shithole hue hue land is bad, but fuck it, at least we can make an easier living off art than hamburgers and europeans

>>6096931
S-tier OP image.
hope to see more.

>tfw i'd have to make $2400/mo just to make minimum wage in my state at 40hrs/wk
>tfw my rent alone is $1250/mo
>thats with a roommate
>tfw inflation has made groceries fucking double in price
before you say "just move": everywhere in the US is like this. Even shit hole towns are now expensive af to live in.
and my state is one of the few that even tries (and fails) to keep up with the cost of living

Billy was uncomfortable with taking his pet raccoon to the comic convention. Her OC super heroine, The Trasher, had a questionable costume.

post your blogs

>>6100349
>>6099495
But I'm too insecure to post anywhere

>>6099488
https://twitter.com/trowawa70746347
I mostly do bara furry in terms of furry artwork, I actually can do some pretty decent normal furry girls if I try, maybe I should post some, any day, any day now.

>>6100475
Holy shit you’re fucking awesome

>>6100475
>I mostly do bara furry in terms of furry artwork
damn i really aspire to be like you, is there like a tips on how to draw muscles? books or video course perhaps. Thanks!

>>6100073
The fire rises.

>>6100015
>>6100043
>are you dumb?
i'm just repeating what I've been told, by everyone, I even got in contact with the "most successful" artist of my city and they told me to just get a normal job bc artist life is hard bc no money.
>do not delude yourself cuz of the internet CS echo chamber
i'm deluding myself bc my friends who haven't even finished the course are making bank with it.
i'm 20 btw
you guys fill me with hope. I can't thank you enough for this insight. I'm reinstalling my setup fuck this giving up shit.

>>6100702
the "most successful artist" in your city is a local retard most likely, selling fingerpaintings to boomers. Not somebody using the global market to get paid by american and european furries who have the computer science degree but unlike you are getting paid 4000 usd a month and so can absolutely afford to pay 200 bucks for their weird fetish art.
The problem is that it's unreliable, you can't just become a furry porn artist by applying. You will need to build an audience on twitter which depends on your style, your marketing etc..
Then you need to get commissions which depends again on your audience, your relative pricings and many other things..
So in summary it's 100% realistic to make a living off of furry porn IF you are actually good at it AND you can get an audience which is a thing you have to incrementally build over years, maybe a decade if you start from absolute 0.

>>6100073
>everywhere in the US is like this

No it isn't.

>>6096931
How much can I make drawing/painting furry art?
Furry stuff is not something I'm really averse to like most people but I'm not as passionate as some are, I lean only slightly into it because of the freedom I feel I would get creating my own fursona and drawing other people's.
Not gonna post my work but I can draw/paint like in the OP pic.

>>6100778
the average furry single character commission goes for between 50 and 100 dollars depending on various circumstances, but it can go higher and lower.
These commissions take about 2-4 hours I'd say but I've seen people do theirs in below an hour or over the span of 8 hours. All of this affects your "wage".
If you can do the OP pic in say 4 hours, it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask for 100 USD or more. Infact, you should always ask for the maximum amount of money you can get whilst still getting enough customers.
Which is my next point, in order to get customers you will need an audience e.g. thousands of twitter and or furaffinity followers.

>>6100831
I see, doesn't sound easy to get these followers.

>this whole thread nothing but wolves and gay raccoon dogs
krinj.. the last threads was way better

>>6100839
its honestly a mystery, some people get 30000 within a year, many are stuck below a thousand. There's a component of who you know e.g. a high follower count artist with a similar subject matter might be your friend and retweet you periodically. Since content is about as important as skill and style, a good chunk of his followers will in time follow you too.
There's a component of just.. luck. And there's a component of marketing etc. Most people here are at about the 1k followers mark and that's usually not enough to make a living off of comms because there's simply not enough buyers.

>>6100865
>30000 within a year

One year is not a lot, maybe I could try this for 2 and see what happens.

>>6100869
that was more like "it can absolutely happen and I've seen it happen" rather than "it's likely to happen to you". Like I said most of us here are hovering around the 1k mark, many are for years. Some painstakingly accumulate hundreds of followers over a decade, some stagnate, some simply explode in popularity on some fateful day to an errant viral tweet.

>>6100878
Yikes, I'd rather use my time making games then. Thank you so much furanon.

>>6100880
I'd tell you the exact same about indiegame releases on steam, and that game will need art, too. And an art audience will reblog your game announcements etc. making it less likely for your game to flop outright. Some indiegame devs become millionaires overnight, some games are buried and forgotten in mountains in shovelware and many many more sell a thousand copies but never really get popular.

>>6100884
I have no other choice. Selling a few thousand copies is enough to get me out of where I am.

>>6100890
a game good enough to sell a few thousand copies takes years to make alone, and will ultimately include either high costs (to buy art, music, marketing etc.) or you getting good at art and such anyways. I guess releasing a mediocre game yourself will maybe allow you to apply to some low level mobile gamedev company or something.

>>6100895
UUUUOOOOHHHHH

>>6100895
Very cute wolfo
Wanna try practicing that sort of "kemono-esque" facial aesthetic but my autism keeps seething over it not looking "realistic" and "believable".

>>6100895
blog NOW

>>6100895
cute but im fucking shooting myself in the dick over your half-assed digitigrade depiction

>>6100892
I understand your points, I think you're incorrect because the games I want to make may not be the same you're envisioning, but there's no way to know unless I make them. I think I'll have to try in any case. Art I can do myself, that's not a problem. Music is easy to make, cheap to buy, or generate with AI. I think the most challenging aspect will be marketing, that I can see as a problem. If it all fails, though, then perhaps I could do what you suggested (thank you): apply to some company.

>>6100925
my point being is if you can make the gameart, you can try a twitter. You can crosspost your gameart etc. to your twitter to market both your twitter art account and your indiegame to slightly increase the chance of both or either of them succeeding. And it only takes like 5 minutes a day.

>>6100932
Oh, that's... genius, I feel retarded. Makes a lot of sense.

>>6100932
Hey, what about copyright? If I spam my Twitter with my things what could guarantee me I won't get my ideas and characters stolen?

>>6098049
Thank you! https://twitter.com/DegenSalt Just started posting. I'll post more soon.

>>6100993
game mechanics intrinisically cannot be copyrighted, there are billions of good game ideas and only hundreds of people with the drive to execute them. The thought that your perfect idea is going to make you a millionaire and if anybody steals it you're ruined is surprisingly common but rather silly. Everybody has their one big idea and it's probably different from yours and if you told them you'll make game x but with game y they'd just look at you funny thinking how superiour their game a but with b is.
If you mean gameart itself then yes that is copyrightable. Nobody is realistically gonna do this, what might happen is some random who using your suggesstive furry art on his f list profile to erp with strangers. Which you may or may not be able to stop on a legal level but really it should just be irrelevant to you.

>>6101001
Good points, I don't know why but you're being very helpful, thank you so much for that.

>>6099998
>thought that's what brings happiness
I relate to you way more than I thought haha
>to play vidya
lol I was about to say to give up videogames whenever you don't have time, then I cut out the text: it was already a wall to read

>>6100702
I'd like to rearrange a bit the informations others have provided while giving a personal view.

About Brazil, I thought that a 200$ commission would cover you for around 1/3 of a month, but aside from some portuguese, I don't know anything about Brazil.
Also, do you need to pay a % of your commissions as a tax? Assuming no and that you are a gmi, living in this way sounds possible, but...
The reliability. For instance, with a normal job, you don't have to worry if the living cost or if the currency has a change. Also, will you be able to acquire enough to survive after retirement?
I mean, don't forget to think about the long term.

The concept artist. It's a normal job after all, with an affinity with your passion. But you have to truly get better, otherwise this will be your ruin.

Programmer. Compared to getting skill in art, this is easier for sure.
Usually this sector is never saturated because programmers are always looked for, and the experience values way more than a degree. Keep in mind that I talk while ignoring how in Brazil works: a different country for a different reality.

Looks that you have already decided, though. Então, até a próxima, amigo!

God damn it, I already answered those question and for whatever reason it didn't go.
>>6100559
I don't have any real special technique to study muscles, I study like I normally study anatomy in something I think I'm struggling. I study normally using reference, after that I try drawing from memory trying to internalize what I learned. It looks similar but since I'm not using any reference my brain distorts what I remember and I can give my own spin to it.
>>6100902
Kemono is a lot of fun to draw when you get used to it, I don't like a whole lot because for me is too much anime girl with a snout and I want to have more of a balance, but I do a whole fucking lot when drawing on flockmod and alikes. I can sometimes, sometimes I can not, depends on what I'm doing it.
>>6100911
Yeah, it's on purpose, kinda. The big wolf has normal digitigrades but you can't see it because the angle, making certain poses and angles with this sort of thing can look weird so I don't do it a lot. I found this guy who does this half-assed ones and I like how it looks for more cartoony and cute stuff. Is half-assed but from someone who never does the stuff I think is great.

finally had some time to doodle a little

>>6100702
>I even got in contact with the "most successful" artist of my city
question is, does he get paid in dollars or works within brazil itself? i doubt any "successful' artist getting paid in dollars and euros cant make a good living here

also what kind of art does he do? we are talking about internet commissions which are easier to gain money than a "normal" industry job, easier yet if dont mind being a degen and do lewds but you dont need it

and like i said, do a degree AND art, literally o reason to only choose one, plus you have to think about if you like doing art enough for it to be a job or you only like the IDEA of doing art as a job, cuz the moment you start talking money and putting in job-tier hours most people realize they would rather keep art as a hobby

>>6101022
>Also, do you need to pay a % of your commissions as a tax?
you dont need to pay tax if you have a salary below a value of 2500 reais, ofc you arent working a "normal job" so you can just declare youreslef an independent worker and "evade" the tax for good while as long as you arent moving 10k a month form bank to bank or anything to raise suspicion, hell you keep everything on paypal and just transfer 2.5k to your normal bank acc to pay bills and youre tax free

>>6100702
>my friends who haven't even finished the course are making bank with it.
how ,much are they making? what area/job they do? and are they even good, as in above the average entry level programmer?
getting an average entry level position while still studying is one thing, getting paid enough to "make bank" i doubt it

cuz if your friends havent finished a course and are already making 7-10k a month i want to know what city this is for me to move to lmao

>>6101735
>>6100702
one last thing i forgot, if the question is getting a job as a concept artist or any other kind of art and design position at a game company, they i will take back my words and agree with that guy who told you to not do it it aint worth it

but if we are talking being a freelance artist doing commissions and contract work especially for international clients, then ofc you can make a good living you just have to be very very good and know how to market yourself for the kind of work you want
freelance work for games is very different than twitter/furry commissions etc so just pick one path and work on it for the next 4-5 years while you finish a degree, then you have both art skills that are enough for pro work freelance or social media comms and a normal job to keep a roof over your head if you need it

>>6101769
>but if we are talking being a freelance artist doing commissions and contract work especially for international clients
pretty much this. I confident that I'd have art as a job ok or better, the thing I dislike the most about doing art all day is the physical downside of it (back, wrist, vision, etc). This is still very superficial, and I need to do more testing to see how i react to it when I catch up with the school stuff (draw from waking up to going to sleep).
>start talking money and putting in job-tier hours
I mean, assuming i'm going to be working under a contract, I thought they'd just do for wfh programmers, track the time they spend working, and i'm aware that the income is inconsistent and if I fuck shit up i'm gonna end up starving.
>literally o reason to only choose one
I kinda know it? But when I bring this point up during a conversation ppl just say something like "you are either the absolute cream of the crop or you're starving, so, choosing 2 and not focusing on 1 to master is a waste of time". Literally everyone, so I kinda just adhered to it.

>>6101022
>Então, até a próxima, amigo
Thanks Morv, você é um amigo, amigo

thank you people for the info, new povs and opinions, I'm sure my decision will be better made with this.

>>6101760
>much are they making?
i re read my post, and that part is was misleading. 2 of the 3 just got jobs in the exterior, making ~R$8k a month, the other got a job locally and is making 5k. they are at the 7th semester. notably they all stood out and got to be monitors, do research, projects and stuff. I don't know how much experience they have tho.
>why do you have friends in the 7th semester and is still choosing to take the course or not
basically very strong depression that grew w/ covid, which lead to me failing the course hard, trying suicide and then "dropping out" until the latter half of last year.

>>6100995
Followed, now get to work

Anyone else ever pyw and then regret it later?

>>6102290
Everytime I get zero (you)s. So here's one my brother.

>>6102290
always. i think im gonna stop posting my work on sm for a while. i'm not happy with it at all and i'm a bit ashamed of posting it.

Fox

i just don't know how to study.
i need to get better at values, but i looked through the books. i feel like i kinda get it, but i don't know what to really study or how.

>>6102352

>>6102352
>>6102362
Good job, anon. Blog

>>6102369
ipainthere on twitter

>>6099933
added more mass but i'm still not happy especially with the perspective of the snout.

WIP, gotta practice painting skin and leather.

>>6102353
>i just don't know how to study.
>i need to get better at values,
As far as rendering exercises go I think simply copying what you see is one of the most useful ones. Since you have trouble with values, I'd do those studies in black and white. Bargue plates come to mind.

>>6102479
I feel you. Faces are a huge problem to me as well - usually I end up simply copying what better artists did. e621 is great for finding quality references, since you can sort images there by score.

>>6102696
Woah, still a WIP and I like it already. Some suggestion about how to learn? For me this stuff is a tragedy.

>e621 is great for finding quality references
An e621 lesson.
Do:
order:score
order:favcount
Avoid:
order:score_asc
order:favcount_asc

>>6102696
i just delete everything and start over, this time with box construction to make sure everything is in perspective. also tips on how to make it him more 'werewolf' like? tried copying Fiddler's work but it still look too goofy/cartoony.

>>6102786
>tips on how to make it him more 'werewolf' like

I would try changing the human proportions slightly, slightly beefier deltoids, slightly longer forearms, etc.

>>6102725
>Woah, still a WIP and I like it already.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! :D
>Some suggestion about how to learn?
Uhh, how to learn what exactly? Figure drawing, perspective, composition, colour theory or rendering? I'd love to help you out, but I can't exactly spend few hours describing everything - I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific.
Unless you're looking for just general advice on purpose: in that case I highly recommend sticky. Some people swear by "just drawing", but I personally was improving the most when I was going through various workshops/courses.

>An e621 lesson.
Yeah, pretty much. It's a good idea to exclude animations and pictures with "comic" or "text" tags. I also try to upload all my finished drawings there - comparing myself to artists that submitted similar subject, but had a much higher score is useful when self-criticizing my work.

>>6102786
>Fiddler's
Who?

>>6100349
im https://twitter.com/nsixdraws?t=7Jh56KkelqR6qNgdshyCSg&s=09

>>6103130
>Uhh, how to learn what exactly?
lol, now i do realize how vague I was. I meant the painting/rendering.

In general, is like what I learn about the topic gets discarded by my head. Even something as simple as deciding the flat colours gives me trouble. The next steps make me feel really overwhelmed... I don't know how to continue, I feel like I'm wandering into an infinite desert of colors.

Being easily demoralizable doesn't help, because at some point the strange feeling in my throat and chest goes in my arms which become... lighter? So, when I decide to give up the attempt, I just test random things and give another try when I want to.

>pyw
Here it is: the monument of my failure.
The one below was made yesterday; the best one. But in the end, the same problems. I do admit that yesterday looked to me way worse, maybe just a mental thing, but still I get locked at some point.
Awww cute smile... sorry bud, I can't give you life yet...

>>6103267
what animal is this?

>>6103419
Cryptoprocta ferox. But for the mortals is called fossa. Very interesting animal

>>6100255
Start giving your characters contours on top of construction. Also if you have to describe what you drew with WORDS, you know you just fucked up, simple as. Your sketches tell a lot about your mindset but I dont feel like writing an essay right now.

2 lazy 2 respond 2 all but rly cool stuff all around over the past couple days

>>6103132
TFiddler, dude who draws realistic buff beastmen. pic related is the reference i used along with real wolf head

>>6102786
gonna polish the head a little bit more but i like this a lot more.

Just finished a commission

>>6098670
Wait. Doesn't this mean that he is cheating? Somone call the art police! Hurry!

>>6103267
>>Uhh, how to learn what exactly?
>lol, now i do realize how vague I was. I meant the painting/rendering.
>Even something as simple as deciding the flat colours gives me trouble.
>The next steps make me feel really overwhelmed... I don't know how to continue, I feel like I'm wandering into an infinite desert of colors.
Ah, gotcha. What really helped me level up my game were 2 things:
1. Course "Advanced lighting with Sam Nielson", which is simply excellent and gives you exact exersises to do with very reasonable explanations. Don't worry about "advanced" in the title - it used to be called "basics of light" when I learned it, but name changed because of marketing.
2. Making a checklist. Painting can be really overwhelming and having one can gives you a lot of clarity, it helps with pushing through that ugly stage of painting.
My checklist used to look a bit like this:
1. make a sketch,
2. make lineart,
3. Turn lineart into occlusion shadows (mark brunet has a youtube vid on occlusion shadows if you want a quick explanation),
4. Block in local colours as they'd look in the shadow (darker and for example bluer than "normal"),
5. decide on the terminator and block in roughly main light (colour dodge brush can quickly give you a nice hue shift; use clipping masks),
6. Smudge the edge of the terminator where volumes are curving naturally; leave them sharp where they're resulting from cast shadows. Paint in halftones while you're at it.
7. add subsurface scattering (make terminator more vibrant and saturated, if light is shining through something [like an ear] it will be a bit lighter and more saturated),
8. add reflected light,
9. add highlights,
10. add textures,
11. play around with photoshop filters, curves, levels and colour balance.
Hope that helps, good luck!

How do I make this look good

How do I make this look better (linework)

>>6104188
>but name changed because of marketing
Mmmh... should be the one currently known as "Fundamentals of Lighting", just to be informative toward anyone else is reading.
>Making a checklist
Good idea: I would stop wandering as I'm used to do.
>that ugly stage of painting
The part where every move feels like a mistake. I liked your WIP because feels a bit fuzzy yet it's all so clear!
>10. add textures
What does consist this exactly? Adding details outside contour/forms like fur? Use an appropriate texture with a brush on the midtones near the terminator? Something else?
>Hope that helps, good luck!
It will. But is up to me now. Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it!

>>6104378
>>10. add textures
>What does consist this exactly? Adding details outside contour/forms like fur? Use an appropriate texture with a brush on the midtones near the terminator?
I meant something like this, left image is before, right is after. Since I haven't spend that much time studying fur, I just use a smudge brush to smear colours a bit and give a vague impression of it. It's not very realistic or that good looking to be honest, but it's fast and easy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'd do the same thing when painting waves on water.
On things like wooden boards or rocks I'd overlay a phototexture - it's easy to find free ones on the internet. I could do those by hand, but it's just way too time consuming.
Grass and foliage textures are the hardest to pull off IMO; for them I use both phototextures and texture brushes from Krita.
>Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it!
I'm glad you found it helpful then :)

>>6104415
You are so kind, thank you again! Now I have to commit myself, otherwise the first one to be disappointed would be the guy that I see in the mirror

I've never painted vinyl/latex/leathers before, so I want to try doing that with this piece.

>>6104364
This is my opinion, but I'm also parroting Richard Friend here in a way, a large chunk of having good line art is just the drawing. That's why you can see all different kinds of line art styles, from G-pen/manga, dot brush, mostly flat, soft pencil brush, etc. and they can all look good depending on the artist.
>>6104127
Looks great

>>6104187
is using references like that really cheating?

>>6104187
>>6105103
no.

>>6098670
What I recognize is that the face looks 100% like how that totodraws guy draws them
But I guess thats not really that bad

>>6100475
it hurts me that even I got more followers than you, your art is really good and should be seen by more people unless you dont care about that stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIm925adXyY

I'm surprised this /fag/ game hasn't gotten more attention.

I gave this shit a go. man I cant draw hands or feet for shit

Bun

test

....do girls like male furry artists? even if they're also furry?

>>6105761
Depends on who you’re dealing with.

>>6103516
Oh sweet. My obsessed stalkers are psycho analyzing me now.

>>6106185
the perkyness of the coons boobs says a lot about society

woof

>>6106211
Small eyes desu.

>>6102696

The left eye socket (our right) needs more depth. Right now, it looks like nothing is holding the eye in the skull to me. You're doing a very good job so far and it's cool to see a sphynx, I've been drawing and painting them alot recently, though I'm not a furry artist.

>>6106290
>drawing and painting naked cats
>not a furry artist

>>6106290
Neat, thank you for feedback! :D

i want to walk the line between full-on furry and marketable family friendly zootopia type shit
although my primary inspiration is the robin hood cartoon

>>6106451
>robin hood cartoon
which is full on furry

>>6106507
No

>>6106518
yes
what's the difference?

>>6106527
I don't know. I just classify them differently. I don't think there's a super strict objective metric
There's this "funny animal" classification system i read on TV tropes...

but what i can say for certain is: i want to design mine more simplistic, less realistic, less detailed, more cartoony, less anthropomorphic and more animal (thanks for reading my blog)

>>6105683
Cute, but kind of stiff looking Anon.

>>6106538
>funny animal

we call them anthros in Europe.

>>6106645
That's fair
I just want to avoid the possible stigma associated with the "furry" label
Cause what if people will think it's a porn game or something
Then again, it's not a commercial project, so maybe marketing shouldn't be in my top 10 concerns

>>6103556
I really like this one!
The crossed legs seem kinda weird though

>>6106451
the robin hood cartoon was one of the primary inspirations for the furry fandom in general tbf

advice/critique pls? haven't drawn in three or four years
be harsh i'm not a sissy that will sui because some anon called my artwork shit

>>6106741
Just draw regular furry antho whatever, however you want it.
You don't ever need to explicitly mention the word furry. Those who see it as furry will see it as furry regardless. And those who just see it as funny animals will see it as funny animals as long as you don't mention the word furry.

>>6106827
>as long as you don't mention the word furry
That's the plan!

>>6106274
That and very undefined brow/temporal area i think. gonna study more wolf heads. Thanks for the input

>>6106274
That and very undefined brow/frontal area i think. gonna study more wolf heads. Thanks for the input

>>6106780
thx
as for the legs im surprised I didnt notice it before someone else pointed them out
I need to start reviewing my shit before just immediately posting it with obvious mistakes

>>6106839
sex!

>>6106844
so true!

>>6106839
Absolutely based. long neck+pointy head are heavenly proportions. You should draw more of this, anon.

>>6106824
The pecs look like boobs and one is bigger than the other, when you draw them think of them as having more of a square-ish shape and not as balls, they are also connected to the deltoids

>>6106824
very quick attempt at a general redline, I tried to keep as close to the original as possible really.

Boobs go lower than that. The hand holding the knife if at all present is way too small. Nevermind the fact that the pose itself is awkward(I rotated the hand towards the viewer here).
You should consider the ribcage and the stomach two different objects not one continuous line, with a clear break between them. Consider the principle that if there is any sort of bend to the figure then one side will have to squash and the other will need to stretch.
The eyes should be clipped off by the snout but that might just be a stylistic choice. Her pupils however are unfocused and it gives her a derpy sort of look.
The hips and legs are basically nonexistent so I can't really say what was supposed to be going on here.

>>6106923
anon...

Quick gesture with different body types before going to sleep.

>>6106923
It's a lady..

>>6106962
Thanks a lot anon! I'll make sure to look into it further.
>The hips and legs are basically nonexistent
Yeah because basically i just wanted to make a quick headshot, but then i wantd to make a neck, then hands, then everything else and... eh i never even learned how to properly draw anything below an anthro's belt except for ass maybe.

>>6106923
Me on bottom middle.

how do you even get a follower on twitter if you have no connections at all (no as in no furry friends, artists or forums etc)

>>6107514
Autism.

Get all the vaccines you can. then, stop reading. this should kick start the seed of autism you already have.

how do i know you have the seed of autism? you asked this question.

https://files.catbox.moe/citbu9.webm

Pretty happy with the result

>>6107652
Color me impressed. How did you design the helmet shapes and the cloth? any references you used? Also blog.

>>6107652
Very cute offbrand Freya

>>6104127
Looks cute, anon.

>>6107704
Thank you. Here’s my Twitter: @schizoed_

I didn’t use any references but I applied the automatic drawing technique for the details. It has been life changing ever since I’ve learned this.
I simply add some details by drawing random shapes and lines inside of a shape (in the case of folds) or when doing the lineart (in the case of the helmet).
This video showcases it better than I can explain: https://youtu.be/MJYGFwGhHnA

It takes a bit of time to lean how to let your hand and your mind go. To be honest what I do is still not perfect as I need to vary the shapes and learn to have a better balance with details and white space but it’s very fun to experiment with it.

I hope the explanation is understandable.

>>6107709
Thank you very much. Freya is one of my favorite characters in terms of design, it doesn’t surprise me that I unintentionally made this character look like her.

>>6108129
>using dalle as a brainstorm machine
Based
And your lines are incredibly good!

I apologize for the spergout.
As much as I tried to quit, I just couldn't. I kept getting that urge to draw. It's like alcohol. You can't quit.
But I'm a changed man now. I've tried to un-tard myself. You wouldn't even recognize me anymore. Don't worry, there will be no more spergouts!
Again, I sincerely apologize for my behavior. What a man needs to be is disciplined, and I have taken myself to be just that.

>>6108522
Long ago I purposely destroyed my few studies to convice myself to never come back. It didn't work clearly hahahaha... I was just sad. Oh, I drew with a mouse too, for 2 weeks.

You have no idea how much I am happy to see you again!

>>6108522
schedule a psych

>>6108522
Man i missed u.

I must have missed it what was so bad that this guy did?

>>6108612
nothing malicious, he just tends to schizopost a bit.

Idk man

>>6108522
Glad that you're back man. Looking forward to seeing what you make going forward.

>>6108522
Welcome back!

>>6108570
>>6108593
>>6108839
>>6109064
Thank you for the welcome.
>>6108586
You know what? I probably should. I'm just worried that I'll lose my job if they find out. But I'm going to see if there's anything truly confidential.

>>6108522
If you mean what you say, then you and I have the same "problem". Good news is, it guarantees that were gmi. Welcome back scratch anon.

>>6109419
SOVL. It's nice to see Eloisa smiling. She feels relieved.
Will you restore your accounts?

As for the psychologist, there should be something called like "professional secret", so they are not supposed to say things around. Hoping it's like this everywhere

Here's a raven assassin

>>6109460
>Will you restore your accounts?
I don't think I will. I was happier before I made them. Sure, it's a nice feeling when you get a like, but I think I'm better off just posting my work in this site only.
>As for the psychologist, there should be something called like "professional secret", so they are not supposed to say things around. Hoping it's like this everywhere
If I go to any that are approved by the state, it will all appear on any background check they do on me. If they find out what I am, I will likely lose my job and I will definitely not gain any employment in my field in the future.

The king is back and his glow-up looks amazing

It's a bit tough trying to figure out how to turn him into a cute scalie dude with how GAR his face is

>>6108522
>>6109419
Welcome back, fren.

>>6109485
Very nice atmosphere and architecture. I like how you play around with the values.

>>6102352
Awesome!

>>6097256
>After three months of dungeon crawling in the same cave complex, we meet Mr. Roy and Mr. Biv, the devil henchmen
>They give us generic early game bad guy monologue
>"Literally worse than Hitler", I comment in a bitter feminist tone
>party chuckles
>they open a portal to escape
>I try to grapple one of them
>he uses psychokinesis to throw me across the room
>"I was raped!" I shout
>party chuckles some more, but priest is annoyed
>this was the last of Brenda we'd see in a while

>>6109709

>>6109709
>>6109710
Pilot's giving me Flam Kish vibes.

>>6108775
oh this is clean, blog?

>>6109485
I like the composition and how the light is slightly showing from the structure, breaking the clouds.

>>6109587
>I don't think I will
Oh well, would have been nice posting on something less volatile and easy to browse, like FA. It's like having little monuments showing a journey.
>it will all appear on any background check
Wow, where I live a register like this doesn't exist

>>6109485
Feels like moba art, but with (more) furry characters. Good enough to be MOBA art at least.

Here's an overwatch furry commission i did a while ago.

>>6109888
why do both of them look like they are retarded and fat?

>>6109888
how much did you charge if you don't mind saying? it looks kinda busy and hard to read in places, those hands need work but the rendering looks kinda nice. the bottom dude has kinda crossed eyes, not sure if intentional. besides that, this is very skilful dude

>>6109419
hey hey people

>>6109897
120$

Here's another moba-esc one

>>6109927
damn that's low dude, looks like 10 hours work at least

>>6109927
>>6109961
I kinda agree, I'm a cheap artist but for something that level I would't go bellow 300$.

>>6109961
>>6110059
this desu.
you're underselling yourself and also undercutting lesser artists.

Ill raise to 300

>>6106451
Anon drew my bunneh in OC thread :3

>>6098788
I've been browsing furry shit since 2007 and never had a "fursona", that's not a requirement for anything. However i can recommend you to come up with a nice OC that you'll draw occasionally. The reason is that people will bond through you as an artist through that character and come back for more art

Doodle for the doodle

>>6111110
Fuck lost hexagets

>>6111016
Very cute. Nice design btw.

>>6110613
>Ill raise to 300
jokes aside, with your level of art you should definitely be charging more than 120, nice work!

>>6111293
>120? what do you mean 230 is too much? Alright 270 only as a special offer today, but any lower than 300 and i’ll go out of business

What do you guys think about painting over A.I generated images? Pic related is an example of an artist who painted over a furry AI image. And I have to say, it looks pretty decent.

Do you guys think this could be a method a lot of us should take advantage of when Dalle-2 get's publicly released, or is it souless, and it takes away from the point of art?

>Inb4 back to general
I thought, i'd post this here, seeing as the image is /fag/ related

>>6096931
Why is every single furry community full of LGBTQ queer faggots and hillary loving trannies
These people are beyond autistic

>>6111553
I would not feel mine an overpaint. Sure, cuts time and it's easier.

Also, it will never look like something I had in my head. Let's say I had this >>6109931 in my head or this >>6109674 one; the AI will never make something exactly like that because can't read my mind (for now hehehe).

Personally speaking, if I'd ever use it, it will be for inspiration/reference, but...
>takes away from the point of art
... an overpaint? My purpose would be defeated: I'm not learning to draw for that

>>6109587
You a pilot or something?

>>6111841
I wish! Flight school is too expensive.
I'm currently a metro peacekeeper while I continue my studies and acquiring licenses. My job consists of beating up violent junkies trying to stab people with used needles and arresting them, then handing them to the police. Once I have more job experience and I've finished my studies, then I'll apply for the police academy.

>>6111553
using it as a base for concepts or getting a cool color scheme, sure

but the way your pic shows then might aswell not even paint anything, that isnt an overpaint its just mild retouching and you become a slave to what the AI can produce, same way as people who can only copy a reference without being able to modify it but even worse

actually been thinking if i can feed it my own sketches so it generates a bunch of iterations to speed up the sketching/idea part

>>6111553
Done like this is no better than tracing or photobashing lmao.
Use it to brainstorm ideas and help you scrape from its faulty logic what you like.

>>6111553
I'm in no way against using AIs for art, after all it's just a tool much like any other tool
However, it depends on the extent of how much input is provided from the man and from the machine.

The example pic you posted I would classify as too far. The human barely did any work here (including the prompt). It's more like a slight retouch, than a paint over. This artist's also not going to have much style and personality, if AI (afaik) composes some kinda median average of the 1 million furry images it has processed.

It will be soulless and cheap, much like mass-produced mobile shit games or something. It looks decent, it's not made by amateurs - but it is not a product of an artist with a soul and personality, it's not made with love.

>>6112155
>This pretty much
Yea sure, some artists will definitely take advantage of such programs, but it will never be REAL art. Just cheap soulless imitations of what makes humans, human.

pwywo

>>6111553
Furry artists will become irrelevant lmao
In a few years, no one will care for your art. Everyone will be making their own.

>>6112461
>>6112461
>portrait artists will become irrelevant lmao
>In a few years, no one will care for your art. Everyone will be making their own.

>>6112480
How many portrait artists do you think had work before vs after the camera?
What an absolute cope.
You're gonna be posting hours of work into an uncaring void where everyone and their grandma can do art better and faster than you.

>>6112491
>everyone and their grandma can do art better and faster than you.
well yeah, but that's true regardless of having AI

>>6112494
pff fair point

>>6112461
>frog poster
Opinion discarded

>>6112499

The Problem:
I want to use a great variety of animals for my anthro characters - that is, sapient ones.
But, the predatory ones need something to eat, and because this is medieval fantasy times, they could use a mount.
I'm finding it hard to decide whether a particular real-life animal that I want to include, should be relegated to a sapient anthro species, or a non-sapient animal.

Wouldn't it be weird to see, say, an anthro hyena riding a non-anthro okapi?

just finished this commission thought you guys would like it

>>6112684
Super cute

>>6112678
The solution I usually would go with this anthro and feral + sapient and non-sapient problem that you're currently having right now is to go with what I call the Pokemon and Equestrian rule.
a. Anthro and Non-anthro exist together
b. Both are sapient
c. But kind can communicate with each other
d. Non-anthro does not equate to their IRL counterpart ala-Pokemon.
e. Certain non-anthro can stand up and use their paws for limited tool usage or 'sticky hooves' with hooved and cloven non-anthro
f. Common meat is fish, shellfish and chicken only - that or clearly fantasy monster species like Hydras and Wurms
g. Riding is WITH consent but there are ways of course to 'tame' both anthro and feral.

>>6112909
>feral
What does that mean
>Non-anthro does not equate to their IRL counterpart ala-Pokemon.
What does that mean?
>Certain non-anthro can stand up and use their paws for limited tool usage
This just makes the line all the more blurry
>Common meat is fish, shellfish and chicken only
But those can be sapient too
>Riding is WITH consent
H-hot

>>6112684
very good, also, nice, i love the weed number reference it's very funny

>>6112684
Blog?

>>6112941
>feral
feral = non-anthro and vice versa. Furry tags/naming and all that can confusing at times and I learned how things can get confusing whenever I browse e621. Do remember that feral does not meant non-sapient, considering that feral = non-anthro in this context.

>Non-anthro does not equate to their IRL counterpart ala-Pokemon.
By that, I meant that furry non-anthro should not be a one is to one copy/look-alike with their real life counterpart. You can see a lot of non-anthro furry characters do have human eyes or minute differences to their real life inspiration/counterparts. A non-anthro horse can wear the biggest shit-eating grin same as a T-rex.

>Certain non-anthro can stand up and use their paws for limited tool usage
Just basically saying that make non-anthros not limited in their range of actions and motion(within reason that is). Like they can turn dials and door knobs either using their mouth or paws but are unable to open cans even with a can opener etc etc.

>Common meat is fish, shellfish and chicken only
Not on my watch!

>>6113024
That's too much autism for me, I'm not even a real furry
I'll invoke cartoon logic

bump. gonna fix the forearm tomorrow.

>>6113168
Based boar poster

'nother commission.

>>6112684
Really cute. Good job.

>>6112684
i want to cum inside in that thing

>>6113439
How much do you charge?

>>6112684
Cute bunni. Curious about the rendering on the clothing though.

The artist delete all their works and never return
How i can recreate their style?

>>6114108
Find their previous works via alternative boorus that're more lax on DNP and "respecting the artist's wishes" to have their older artwork glassed from the face of the internet. Like https://tbib.org/ or Rule34/Paheal

>>6114114
thanks for the tip

the colors are generic in this image?

>>6114103
$50

0 art experience here can someone give me a super basic rundown of things ai need to learn to draw smut?

>>6114276
anatomy
gesture
perspective

anything to change before i start doing shadows?

>>6114366
hand looks off.

petting buncel (do not do this at home)

My first attempt at painting furry art. Howd I do?

>>6114366
I can't for the life of me figure out where the mouth is supposed to be. The head and pelvis are facing a similar direction while the stomach and chest seem to twist in another. Despite looking alright its an uncomfortable and unnatural looking pose. The armpit hair on his right arm isn't actually sitting in the pit but looks as though its growing from his right pectoral. Forshortening on most things also need work. There's a bunch more but those are what I noticed. What I want to know is, are you using a reference for the pose? Can I see it? And what this boar character looks like from other angles so I can figure out what's going on with his mouth.

was busy the last week but got a chance to get a proper line drawing done of my sketch

Has to adjust the ears and left arm a little, but so far seems to match the perspective

>>6115190
i actually redoing the lineart because some of the hair and other features look unnatural and distracting. proportions of arms and hands also a bit wonky so i tried to fix it too. as for the mouth this is my first time drawing boars so i just contour it from various doujins.

>>6115109
Pretty good!
Ears look a bit wonky

>>6115381
piggers

kindred sketch

i feel like my art is souless because i have no passion for anything.

>>6115535
Any brush like this for Paint Tool Sai? Been searching but nothing I find convinces me.

>>6115584
I just use the default brush pen in clip studio

>>6115715
>tfw everyone uses the default brushes and it comes out great every time
A-Are alternate brushes and brushpacks truly just memes?

>>6115715
Alright. Did some changes to mine based on your brush settings and I think it worked.

>>6115748
amazing shirt

>>6115752
Thanks! In case you're the Kindred anon, you did an amazing Kindred too.

How longs it gonna take for me to be able to draw furry stuff and make a dollar.
I'm a begginer and need something to guide me. I've started drawabox but feeling like I should be doing more to fast track my drawing ability

>>6115722
Actually it's not the default, I took out stabilization completely. I wanted to share them but accidentally hit the "reset tool settings" on the sketch brush so had to set them up properly again, and here is my meme alternate brush and brushpack for doodles in CSP (which is just really the defaults with 0 stabilization) but there is one extra brush for my thin lines in the first link

https://files.catbox.moe/tps4te.sut
https://files.catbox.moe/9ovkjl.sut
https://files.catbox.moe/8fsxx2.sut

And here is a real time doodle in case you want to study the process
https://files.catbox.moe/rc7i5h.mp4

If you are having trouble with your lines at first I recommend using Lazy Nezumi Pro with the preset settings of "smoothing - speed pressure" and then start to phase out of it and start drawing more naturally since stabilizers tend to make stuff look more digital albeit smoother, but I highly suggest you start without it and getting yourself used to what inputs make your tablet show what in the screen

We're all going to make it anon

>>6115535
Mmmmmmnice

>>6115381
Hmm... Should've add that little paunch on his gut. But thats just my opinion. I myself should draw more of my pig OC.

>>6116330
got it. gonna start doing values on this i think the line's good enough

>>6114774
On the first sight, I'm not convinced by the eyes. I'd place the eye on the left, slightly below and slightly right. Using perspective lines of the mouth, nose and eyes helps.

>>6115563
No passion for anything besides art or including art?

>>6115786
It's not gonna happen the next day. I don't know how to guide you. Do you have red the sticky? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Some of the most important resources to me are:
>Brent Eviston - The Art and Science of Drawing
Teaches you stuff, addressing them one by one.
>Scott Eaton - Anatomy for Artists
He doesn't teach you how to draw forms, but lets you have an adequate knowledge about muscles. The memorization process it's easier if you learn the names.
>Brent Eviston - The Art and Science of FIGURE Drawing
Same as above, addresses things one by one and after every step puts altogether. He doesn't trivialize gesture which, a lot of times, is explained as "oh it's easy, just put a line that respresents the flow and you're done".
>Michael Hampton - Analytical Figure Drawing 1&2
Teaches you how to draw forms in a simple way, without trivializing it. You can get his book too.

Art tends to be hard because requires you to get a lot of different skills, and most of the time you don't know in which order.
Keep in mind that these are just some of the useful resources. Probably people here are already loading their shotguns and going after me only for not mentioning Bridgman, Loomis, Proko, Vilppu...

>>6114276
Maybe the text above helps you too

How frowned upon is it to use real photos as bgs every-now-and-then? I tried to render the figure with the orange lights but couldn't figure a way to do it without it looking like ass.
>>6116620
>On the first sight, I'm not convinced by the eyes. I'd place the eye on the left, slightly below and slightly right. Using perspective lines of the mouth, nose and eyes helps.
I see it now. To my own detriment, I neither construct or use perspective lines, instead just eyeballing everything and adjusting as I go. It's a mountain of bad habits.

>>6115470
Yeah I see it now. Everything needs a bit more volume, and the ears are misshapen. Thanks!

>>6116684
I know this isnt the best question to ask, but how old are you scratch anon?

I feel like you may be around maybe early twenties or below. You seem to have alot of fog in your head the way I used to when I was younger.

>I cant make the yellow lights look like shit

Try using an actual photo of something white in a photo like that for reference. Steal the color palette. Don't straight up use the color picker, try and guess the colors yourself as you go, then use the color picker to see how far off you were. Every day you keep improving by leagues. I'm really glad to see you keep going despite how hopeless it all seems. Its a very good thing to have.

>>6116684
>perspective lines
They really do help. use them

>>6116771
maybe if youre at prebeg and actually need it that bad to understand angles
construction by setting up a billion perspective lines in a grid is the biggest meme pro artists advocate for to make beginners waste their time

>>6116843
Big words coming from someone who isnt posting their work

Did this for a drawthread on /co/

>>6116843
You don't have to use a billion grids dude. Just use very light indications of the perspective you've established in your drawing. Without those grids, drawings are shit. Post your work so I can tell just how retarded you are.

>>6097423
me :)

>>6116750
Yeah. I am below the age of 20. So things will get better?
The snow in the image is yellow, but when I made the fur around the same color of yellow, it didn't quite look right.
I've now put a yellow tint over the whole figure and it does blend it into the bg better. But of course I'd need to do it manually and actually shade the thing for it to look good.
>>6116771
I think I will. Thanks for the redline. My sense of proportion, among other things, is really skewed.
>>6116843
The image of the guy you're replying to is vastly superior to mine. I think even just a few perspective lines will make quite a difference.

Completely redrew the one I posted yesterday, the line weights looked wrong and it felt rushed

Anatomy and perspective wise, does it look passable?

>>6116771
Yep, when I started to draw, this video opened a world to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkGJ04Y-Fw

>>6116970
>actually shade the thing for it to look good
Indeed, right now looks like Eloisa is going to post a photo with a filter for Instagram.
Given the photo, we understand that the lights are both behind and in front of her, making the shading more tricky, but you can just pretend that in front of her there are no lights

>I am below the age of 20
Assuming that you live with your parents... does your strange fixation come by the fact that you don't want to show them your hobby? Oh my hahahahahaha

>So things will get better?
Sure, fren! Show us the changed man!
I never belived I could draw anything, but then I chaged my mind during the pandemy. Made pages of circles because only those were impossible to me.
I like your ideas and how you convey emotions, you just need more discipline

Wip commission.

>>6116970
>below 20
oh no NO NO HES THAT FUCKING YOUNG LMAO

>>6116970
>>6117139
I can't believe EloisaAnon is 2 years old and he's already drawing cat boobi........

>>6117142
it's elover

Currently studying this. No clue how I am gonna do the background once I finish the guy tho

>>6116889
Ive posted my work a bunch of times here, infact last time I got the op image.

>>6117400
why are you pretending to be me

>>6117437
But anon, I am you and you are me

>>6117448
And we are all together

>>6117437
stop fucking lying

>>6116620
Thanks for your response.
I'm doing 250 boxes for drawabox ATM but I'm really keen to get into gesture drawing as I know all the bones and muscles (I do remedial massage).
My issue is being able to draw the 60second gesture drawings.

I've just been copying from Michael Hamptons Figure drawing book. I read through to page 27 and it made quite a bit of sense but I still can't create a 60 second sketch, even if I sit on it for 5minutes.
Do I need to know my fundamentals more to achieve this? Or am I missing something

https://files.catbox.moe/0ihkjq.png

if i sold this for $75 i could have made minimum wage.

>>6117131
>>6117165
poggers drawings

>>6117131 >>6117165
Beautiful!

>>6117165
Out of curiosity, have you used something like a gradient map or tonal curves, or you just painted with these colors?

>>6117468
When I said that gesture is trivialized I meant that many times, on the internet, you just see people saying to just put a mark to represent the flow and it's ok because "there is not a right way to do it" and "you can do it in 30 seconds".
Why, a beginner, that does not know how to draw, should be able to put a mark... fast, precise, with the right angle and proportionally correct? In 1 minute total?
That's why I mentioned "Brent Eviston - The Art and Science of FIGURE Drawing". He doesn't trivialize gesture.

On the internet there is hyperinformation, and when you are doing things on your own you can't see always what is wrong or right. Even on /ic/, which became my main source of informations when I randomly found the site Fireden, you can see a lot of times wrong or contrasting informations.

Changing subject, this too helped me a lot at the time: https://www.learning-to-see.co.uk/the-truth-about-looking

>>6117696
Immediately recognised the sculpture "Teseo e il Minotauro" hahahaha

>>6097423

>>6117828
Thank you! Also
>Out of curiosity, have you used something like a gradient map or tonal curves, or you just painted with these colors?
Yeah, I did a black and white painting and added a gradient map at like 50% oppacity so it looks a bit prettier in the post, but I am working on it in black and white.
>>6117761
Thank you very much

Who are your favorite furry artists right now? Or what furry artists are you trying to draw like? I'm trying to find new artists

new threddy when

>>6118939
I like Toughset and belise7.

New thread?

>page 10
perfect time to post some sketchbook cringe

>>6119950
based sketch mosaic

>>6119950
>sketch collage
Based

get in here
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>>6120176
>>6120176