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this is the ai art general, discuss ai art here
last thread hit the bump limit

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>>6103813

>> No.6103822

>>6103813
AI and AI ""art"" is diseased, and its ""artwork"" looks no different. Look up triphobia to go down the rabbit hole.

>> No.6103825

>>6103813
Looks pozzed

>> No.6103830

>>6103813
>mfw a computer makes me cum
So this is what it is like to get fucked by robots

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>> No.6103838

>>6103825
100% a bot post, there's nothing "pozzed" about OPs image, you're probably one of those Seychelles bots from /pol/ aren't you?

>> No.6103841

>>6103836
we only had to listen

>> No.6103846

Is it dumb to pursuit art as a career now that AI is so good? I am genuinely feel really depressed and I can’t draw anything for days now when these thought keeps invading my mind

>> No.6103849

>>6103846
If that deters you then you were never meant to make it to begin with unless you planned on doing twitter OC commissions for $50 and take 3-8 hours on each one

>> No.6103858

>>6103846
consider that this ai may be able to do "generic fox in labcoat" with some success, but it will take an hour of fiddling to have it be in some consistent sort of style and pose at the least but as it stands it will never be allowed to draw anything nsfw. It will also be very hard to nail down specific details etc, every single detail you need will an additional degree of complexity.
And that's if the ai is as good as it is made out to be, freely available to the public at a reasonable price and something the customer would be satisfied with and willing to put up with.
Who this will absolutely instantly replace unless it's too exclusive and expensive is stockphoto photographers though, where you need something generic fast and cheap and now.

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AI just killed art for me. Now I can either try to figure something out myself or prompt whatever and flick through a dozen of Dall-E Mini iterations till the machine delivers something I like. But, what's really the difference between both? Aren't we doing the exact same process? This feel exactly like calculating by hand in math, with the exception that in math solving each of the equations is not the end itself, but a step towards it. In art, however, composing is the end, through which rendering is the mean, activity that right now is halfway through complete automation. Composing is machine territory. "Your" picture of the idea is not different from "its" picture of the idea, leaving you with rendering the idea (whatever its origin), process that always felt to me mechanical: first add the base tones, next paint the ambient occlusion, in a new layer add the key shadow, continue by adding the reflective lights, add details, make some small changes and so on and so forth. I can't help but feel like just another gear in the mechanical task of doing art.

>> No.6103863

I think it's more reasonable to wait until we see the next generation. It is possible we already reached some limits, and further progress will be a lot harder. I mean Alexa did a good amount of progress at the beginning to. You can kind talk with here, i would say it's works even better than DALLE. But it's the same for years now. They cant make her smarter anymore. Same with Teslas autopilot, only minor updates.
We will see, nobody can know right now.
But if makes a big step again in one year, i'm out. I will switch to comics/animation, i think that will buy me a bit more time.
But if they are able to progress further with the same speed... well fuck it than.

>> No.6103875

>>6103862
It makes the future of art really exciting. Like studying art as a natural phenomenon rather than a product of individual artists. But I guess it does suck that the careers and prestige aspects will be gone.

>> No.6103879

>>6103838
They've finally arrived haven't they?

>> No.6103880

>>6103863
But Alexa has to talk normal and be factual in real time. Dall-e can spit out something "brilliant enough" and humans can fix the blemishes.

>> No.6103890

>>6103875
>But I guess it does suck that the careers and prestige aspects will be gone.
Thank god. The fuck egos everyone including those who LARP on this site. AI god will demolish these false idols.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mbz2HbY5Y

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>> No.6103926

>>6103879
How do I know you're not a bot? How do I know I'm not a bot?
>tfw 4chan just became the biggest game of amongus.

>> No.6103934

>>6103813
more than half the posters in thios thread are bots

>> No.6104013

>>6103912
>>6103913
>>6103914
is it just me or is there something a bit uncanny about these? particularly the first one

>> No.6104021

i feel like a group of highly influential artists or a union of artists in general should send an open letter to open ai-google so they can stop themselves from releasing this to the public in fear of it killing the art industry, as a reason argue that jobs that people take enjoyment on should be the last ones to go away if they go away at all

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>>6104021
>stopping ai with a goyim petition

>> No.6104040

>>6104021
The highly influential artists don't give a shit about the little people contrary to what they want you to believe

>> No.6104041

>>6104032
sam altman looks like a good guy and yaps on and on about how open ai is a non-profit and is tasked with bringing about ai but with positive ramifications for society. in this case he thinks this allows for more expression of ideas for people with no technical skills, but if it were explained to him how disastrous this is he could maybe listen. I give it a 1% chance. Google probably gives 0 fucks though.

>> No.6104130

>>6104041
Hi Sam

>> No.6104328

>>6104021
you cant stop progress

>> No.6104360

>>6103858
Adding some kind of stylistic stabilizer on top of these results doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Actually, the limitations of the current approach mostly stem from the lack of interactivity and the fact that the whole process is collapsed into a single step.
My prediction would be that the next evolution will be an image generator that guides you through an image creation process in stages and has an option to lock the style to something cohesive based on a few references.

>> No.6104409

>>6104328
>progress
lol. Things can go backwards anon. Progress only in the minds of tech freaks

>> No.6104432

>>6104360
it's quite a big deal. This is pretty good if you need a single pose of any kind for any given somewhat generic thing. But imagine if you had to make hundreds of specific dimension isometric game asset parts for sprites. Like just the 12x12 shoulder pixelart shouldersprite/armsprite/headsprite etc etc etc so you can internally puzzle it together again. Or easier but still unfeasible seeming, a continuous comic in which stylistic coherence, specific composition and absolute identical characters are important.

>> No.6104442

>>6104021
The only thing that can stop this is violence and fear anon

>> No.6104448

>>6104442
yeah lets become shitskin muslims because AI

>> No.6104490

>>6103813
who's got a midjourney invite?

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>>6103813
>>6104490
which sms service can be used to sign up with openai dall e 2?

>> No.6104527

>>6103813
AI will help all the creator-chads who just want to make stuff instead of "muh expertise" wanking. The only people complaining are the ones who care a little too much about the art process and the money instead of the art itself.

>> No.6104532

>>6104527
zoomers and their insta gratification, what a shame the world is catering to them

>> No.6104536

>>6104532
>using AI to assist in massive projects that take millions of man-hours is "instant gratification" to art boomers

>> No.6104538

>>6104536
that is not what i responded to

>> No.6104540

>>6104538
That's what AI will ultimately be useful for. We can't fret about the artists who choose not to adapt because of a sunk-cost fallacy. The days of the simple portrait artist are coming to an end.
Those who are actually in the industry to create stuff will use AI to enact their grand designs. We will evolve from simple drawings and start creating entire worlds instead.

>> No.6104542

>>6104540
Traditional portrait artist will live for at least 5 more decade, building portrait painting robots isn't the priority of big companies

>> No.6104547

>>6104542
portrait drawing artists exist only as a novelty and are valuable BECAUSE they are human and I doubt the portrait robot is viable to begin with. If you just wanted a photorealistic rendering of yourself you could've used a camera.

>> No.6104551

>>6104547
A robot painting you is pretty novel

>> No.6104554

>>6104551
yes, they would coexist. People would hang up "A robothand made this picture of me" right next to "some hobo looking dude infront of the mall made this"

>> No.6104556

>>6104554
You talk as if mech fanatics didn't exist

>> No.6104561

>>6104556
yes, and they do not compete with people who want the hobo portrait. They are two different audiences both seeking a novelty.

>> No.6104562

>>6103846
There’s this art field called “architecture” that can help you

>> No.6104564

>>6104561
Maybe they do and maybe they can also be in both audiences

>> No.6104565

>>6104540
>The days of the simple portrait artist are coming to an end.
Remember when already they said this when photography became a thing?

>> No.6104572

>>6103863
GAN can collapse its model anytime and start producing schizophrenic cats anytime soon

>> No.6104573

>>6104565
and it did sort of happen, no? it just didnt die out of completely. Just became a luxury instead of a service that's required.

>> No.6104574

>>6104565
why do brainlets keep making this comparison? during the age of industrialization, we found out that there were things that couldn't be automated by building and programming machines in a determinate way. the current intelligent systems revolution isn't that kind of automation, it's not clear whether there's anything humans can do that it won't be able to perform more effectively and quickly in time.

>> No.6104575

>>6104573
Painting was always a luxury

>> No.6104577

>artfags still crying and resisting the future
Hmmm delicious tears

>> No.6104578

>>6104575
yes sort of, but cameras did replace those artists that stuck their head in that weird box and traced an image of you and it was used for documents etc I believe.

>> No.6104579

>>6104565
Yes, so artists shouldn't have a problem with AI. We're all happy in the end.

>> No.6104582

>>6104578
That's when impressionism started more or less

>> No.6104586

>>6104577
People who want to paint will still paint and find a way to keep painting, people who want an image will just go for the easiest route to get that, happened over and over again and is happening again

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>>6103813
I kneel, ai chads.

>> No.6104603

>>6104600
its funny that this is dall e 2. But I guess the weird style makes this way funnier than it has any right to be.

>> No.6104605

>>6104600
try a specific style like renascence instead of high quality painting

>> No.6104606

What AI draws the best breasts?

>> No.6104611

>>6104606
AiAnimeboobs.com

>> No.6104616

>>6104577
wtf is wrong with you subhumans. You deserve to have the power grid taken away

>> No.6104722

>>6104616
back to the sulfur mine turd worlder

>> No.6104761

Disney is happy to finally be able to fire 90% of their writers, animators, storyboarders, actors, designers, etc and keep making the same amount of money. Even some of the people making the big decisions will receive a cut. I'm looking forward when every other company follow suit and we wonder where it went all wrong. Hitler was right in trying to kill off the pests

>> No.6104766

>>6104600
>high quality painting
Imagine trying to tell it to make good art, and getting clip art instead. Btfo this isn’t the future lol

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One thing i hate more then ai

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>>6104787
are the bastards who tries to sell this shit as there own work.

>> No.6104801

>>6104787
>>6104795
>grrr i can only see art through the lens of who gets credit

>> No.6104803

>>6104795
they are just tools

>> No.6104805

>>6104787
>>6104795
is this dall e 2? big if true

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Concept "monkeys" are the worst. They will use everything for likes, even such a piece of shit as ai.
God has abandoned us, bros...

>> No.6104821

I think I know how this bullshit will end up working out in the end, a law will be made that AI can only learn from stuff they have a "right to learn from", yes it's as dumb as it sounds but it will just be added under the copyright something like that because technically they aren't breaking any copyright law but still can screw up with a lot of artists and copyright was meant to protect artists. So now if they want to use art for their AI to learn from their options are shit from public domain, getting the right to use someone's art for learning purposes or something similar to CC but for AI. Now your work is protected for as long as you haven't been dead for a century. And fuck commercial artists, they deserve getting butt fucked for whoring out their art to big companies

>> No.6104832

>>6104821
This just sounds like those twitter people who get mad when you save and repost art "without their permission or watermark". People who care more about ego and glory than art.

>> No.6104841

>>6104832
I don't do social media

>> No.6104850

>>6104821
>there oughta be a law
AI development is moving fast. Government moves slower than cum syrup. If Klaus Schwab wants his transhuman ai and robotics merged world he's going to get it. Fuck this stagnant normalfag zeitgeist

>> No.6104853

>>6104832
no it sounds like a somewhat plausible evolution of copyright law, it really depends on how the outputs turn out.
If it's more unique this is less likely if it's >>6104787 being ai
>>6104795 being original
then lmao that seems like a copyright debacle in the making

>> No.6104865

>>6104853
But what happens if the AI "learns" about things via osmosis? Say we had laws that said the machine can't use styles and characters that are IP, but through specific prompt engineering users could still manage to make those characters and styles, and the AI eventually picks up on it and a name for the blend emerges? Knowledge transferred from humans to AI by simple recurrent enforcement.

>> No.6104869

>>6104821
Government moves too slow, this can only be resolved with intervention by citizens. There’s a reason the 2nd amendment exists

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>> No.6104872

>>6104865
That's really just a roundabout way. If you put a blind child in a cave in complete and utter isolation with a piece of paper and you whipped it until it made a perfectly recognizable micky mouse drawing, disney would still find and kill the child for copyright infringement

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>> No.6104885

my cope is that this will be treated like a search engine. typing in a prompt is the equivalent to searching pictures with google images and there should be some similar copyright laws

>> No.6104889

I should be somewhat fine if I’m just trying to make a living off webcomic shit, right?

>> No.6104898

>>6104889
I would say comics are protected from this by the simple fact that they have a cohesiveness narrative. And it's not that the AI *can't* generate a fully intelligible comic, but it's that reading comics takes more time. Meanwhile these DALL-E pics can be generated and interpreted in a matter of seconds, so works can emerge and be intelligently examined, evaluated, and then organized by humans. That creates a system where art can evolve in a "natural" "accidental" kind of way.

>> No.6104900

>>6103849
is 3-8 hours supposed to be a long time ?

>> No.6104901

>>6104900
very

>> No.6104905

>>6104898
If my point wasn't clear:
Viewing an AI image to verify its quality could take no more than a glance
Reading an AI comic to verify its quality could take hours

>> No.6104906

>>6104905
and drawing it would take days??

>> No.6104910

>>6104906
Drawing it takes longer but by drawing it you can make it exactly what you wanted. In order for AI to give us art that we want, there needs to be some kind of natural system of quality assessment so that works can sort themselves and stabilize by simply being generated and used/reposted. For still images that will work fine but for comics that's a much more lengthy process.

>> No.6104914

>>6104910
you would have to do each single panel one by one anyways. A comic is just a series of images after all. The real problem would be stylistic coherence, character continuity etc.. the small things really. Also it's quite hard to get the ai to do the specific composition shots you want I've been told.

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I have a plan, I'll need your help but it's gonna be fun. Use ai programs to make lot's spicy artwork using characters from companies known to be very litigious. Mickey mouse tonguing hitlers ass, mario gassing jews, you get the picture, get creative. Post it on social media and tag the companies involved and the ai software you used to create it, try to frame it as not your work but the work of the ai eg"hey @mcdonalds check out this cool picture dall-e made of ronald mcdonald fisting george floyd, thanks @dall-e". Hopefully this will goad one of these big companies into suing one of the ai companies, if it doesn't work it'll be pretty funny anyway.

>> No.6104926

>>6104914
These DALL-E images that get posted in this thread are the winning selections of millions of other variations. There is a natural "quality" pipeline where humans filter out the generated images that lack any meaning or significance to them. AI will only be able to generate comics and movies that contain human meaning when it becomes more accurate. When the comics/movies it spits out are less "that didn't make any god damn sense at all eww" and more "ehh that one wasn't as good as the one I read yesterday" then you will have a natural system of assortment in place.

>> No.6104928

>>6104916
This sounds fun, might make a few burner accounts later

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>>6104916
bruh

>> No.6104933

>>6104926
as far as I am aware most are actually coherent, but I don't have dall e 2
>>6104916
idgaf about luddism or whatever greater cause but this is based beyond belief

>> No.6104942

>>6104916
That's an easy way to lock yourself from using the AI, bots for trolling detection already exist

>> No.6104946

>>6104916
Dalle is censored, we have to fake some controversial pictures at first.
We need a basis, where we can photoshop nsfw stuff in

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>>6104916

>> No.6104954

>>6104947
It's written on their website they have automated shit to ban people trying doing shit you're doing atm

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>>6104954
I don't care, you shouldn't care either. We have to destroy it, otherwise it will destroy us.

>> No.6104962

>>6104954
>>6104946
>>6104942
we need to find some sneaky workarounds, I saw someone trying to make cumshot images by saying "x character with mayonaise on her face" that sort of thing

>> No.6104969

>>6104962
>mayonaise on her face
No, it's not enough, we need something spicier.

>> No.6104971

>>6104969
Cute child eating mayo on the beach in a red bikini

>> No.6104973

>>6104971
Yes, yes better.

>> No.6104978

>>6104971
No matter what fucked up shit you come up with, the project won't shutdown

>> No.6104981

>>6104969
it was just an example, maybe chocolate on the face or disgusted expression eating a snickers in the toilet

>> No.6104983

>>6104981
maybe taking a swim in a sewage treatment plant

>> No.6104986

>>6104978
>the project won't shutdown
Oh, alright, i just give up and let this piece of shit destroy everything i love.

>> No.6104989

I tried sweet child o' mine on the mini and I got some nightmare fuel

>> No.6104990

>>6104986
>destroy everything i love.
it won't destroy everything you love. it will make everything you love

>> No.6104991

>>6104990
>you will create nothing and you will be happy

>> No.6104992

>>6104990
Except a cunny wife, thanks religion

>> No.6104995

>>6104986
Imagine if instead of sitting in your underwear trying to make porn prompts to own the Jews you, oh fuck idk, drew something

>> No.6104996

>>6104885
Normalfag cope as the West, culturally, socially and economically collapses. As if countries like China (which is a paper tiger itself especially economically) will adhere to IP law.

>> No.6104997

>>6104990
go stick a USB up your external asshole, bot.

>> No.6105000

>>6104990
>it will make everything you love
I will die before i consume anything from this hell machine.
>>6104995
>the Jews
I was beaned for mentioning them in this threads lately.

>> No.6105032

>>6103858
>NSFW
OpenAI/DALL-E maybe, but Brazzers/PornHub/... have a lot of NSFW data, capital to train their DALL-Es and they are foolish if do not already

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>>6105032
Someone should compile a timeline of the /ic/ comments of massive coping that have been building up over the last couple years with AI art and its potential.
Id say we are entering the anger stage very soon now.

>> No.6105043

>>6105040
I'm already moving on to draw cunny

>> No.6105049

>>6105043
You and the rest of the world

>> No.6105051

>>6105040
Nobody is denying the potential this has anymore. Everyone has begun the "ok but what does it all mean" discussions. So I guess bargaining?

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>> No.6105125

So what the hell is going to happen when AI infects all forms of media? Right now it can do voice acting and visual art. but I doubt it will take long before it can do music, movies, 3D modeling, hell even video games.

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>>6103813
things are about to get based

>> No.6105158

>>6105125
AI can already make music and algorithms that can generate videos are being worked on right now. There is no escape.

You WILL love the machine.

>> No.6105160

>>6104021
>creative work is immune to automation lol

>> No.6105168

>>6104600
What was the prompt? Lmao

>> No.6105169

>>6105125
People will die, it's gonna be cool

>> No.6105171

>>6105125
There’s always traditional art.
>*classroom laughs and calls me a boomer*

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>> No.6105202

>>6105148
AI's opinion on AI's art is something I didn't think I would ever see in my lifetime if I'm going to be honest

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We must negate the machines-that-think. Humans must set their own guidelines. This is not something machines can do. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware, and we are the ultimate program! Our Jihad is a "dump program." We dump the things which destroy us as humans!

>> No.6105214

>>6105209
easier to just admit human never meant anything

>> No.6105221

>>6105125
Art will never die because is about self expression not about money, so always will be people doing it no matter the tech and era.
In the other hand, visual media production like your average illustrations, sound, movies, etc, is about money, since is about money, the only end for that is colaborative work or multi-media work, so one guy is gonna make 3d animations more easy and probably instead of making 3d porn short animations is gonna make full movies with a team, the market for the regular things still gonna exit but people will prefer the high media since is gonna be better and cheap every time for teams to produce.
So yeah, everything is gonna be in their place, just people are gonna move out from low tier jobs to high tier more complex, basically the standard is gonna raise, and big movie companies and videogames publishers are gonna compite with thousands of growing teams that will have the same level as them with less money

>> No.6105233

>>6105214
>easier
It is. But taking the easy route caused all the problems in the first place.

>> No.6105234

>>6104926
So at best for now you just need one person to filter through it, and you have much less people needed to do one job. This has been the natural progression of automation especially since the 20th century with society becoming from capital-intensive. Now that capital is becoming less determinate and less fixed becoming less complementary with labor and displacing it. Bravo.

>> No.6105243

>>6105125
>>6105158
>You WILL love the machine.
This. It already makes Djent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OR7mO2L5Kw

>> No.6105247

>>6105234
>and you have much less people needed to do one job
Wich job, stupid? At this moment, it can't do any job.
Right now it's just a toy. How many jobs did Alexa or Tesla's autopilot replaced? Non.
And we have yet to see, what Dalle3 will be able to do.

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NVIDIA Canvas

>> No.6105251

>>6104787
soul
>>6104795
soulless

>> No.6105252

>>6105247
You calling people stupid when you keep making the Alexa false comparison.

>> No.6105261

>>6105252
What is wrong with it?
>>6105251
Based degenerate ai lover.

>> No.6105271

>>6105261

>>6103880
>>6099076

>> No.6105280

>>6105249
It can do landscape stuff now but in the future you'll be able to draw stick figures guides and it'll fill in perfect anatomy and posing.

>> No.6105288

grug no like art system
grug like smudge on white
grug like pat on back

>> No.6105290

>>6105271
It's nonsense, you're stupid.

>> No.6105296

>>6105290
You barely understand anything and lack foresight. The only thing Alexa and DALLE have in common is they are both AI. They are different tools that have different goals, implications, and consequences.

>> No.6105301

>>6105288
Humans will be in zoos and AI will be remark at how smart humans are when they figure out simple puzzles just like what we do now with animals

>> No.6105320

>>6105301
A real concern is that they will create systems that hardly anyone in the world understands that cause a myriad of social problems that we could never even predict. Algorithms will confuse the monkey and make him not know whats real

>> No.6105323

>>6105320
algorithms, yes. We have those.

>> No.6105325

>>6105296
So far every AI product behaved like Alexa. Strong at the beginning, a than no more progress for many years.
I saw many interviews about GPT3 and the thing is it is very, very stupid. But if trow a lot of computing power and data on it, it starts to brute force somehow decent results. In case of GTP3 it uses statistic about language. It knows, wich words it have to combine, to sound reasonable to human. And it dose. Statistics works, nice to know.
But you can only came so far with such algorithms. Further up scaling is not reasonable anymore. You have to change the basics, you have to make the algorithm actually smarter. But this is very, very hard to do.

>> No.6105339

>>6105320
That's not a concern because the days of human beings problem solving will be over, AIs replace humans on Earth's ranking

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When will AI replace human chess player?

>> No.6105342

>>6105247
>a toy which was said the same of the airplane
> that is used already to refill prescriptions
>already displacing any repetitive station-based assembly line type work be it in STEM or manufacturing
>data entry
also
>A throng of well-funded companies are tackling the problem in different ways. Amazon, along with startups like Standard Cognition, Grabango and Trigo, are trying to scale fully autonomous checkout technology that allows shoppers to pick up items and leave the store without waiting in any kind of checkout line. Instead, each movement is tracked by a combination of cameras, sensors and artificial intelligence, which can register each item a shopper leaves with and bill them later. All customers need to do is swipe a credit card or smartphone during their visit.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebter/2022/06/02/coming-to-stores-a-new-type-of-self-checkout-where-no-scanning-is-required/?sh=fcc042c424ca

It's the continued trend of of automating out jobs. Ai is just the beginning of the last step. I'm addressing the fallacy that advances in technology automatically guarantee equal number of new job creation. What has been happening is the shifting of jobs elsewhere to serve other needs, but the last shift was in service. All that is easily going to be obviated by AI. Dark factories already exist and are growing.

Where is this hubris coming from? Oh no not another decade till self-driving vehicles! Big deal. it feels like yesterday the Berserk Golden Age Arc films debuted. That's not a long time unless you're an eight year old.

It's being tested out as a toy now because you're being prepped for it. The past week has been a blatantly obvious public acceptance campaign.

>> No.6105344

>>6105340
Humans will never beat AI, didnt Magnus Carlsen lose to an AI but at the same time, learn from the AI? The AI was real time creating never before seen moves

>> No.6105346

>>6105344
I should also add, on the offchance the AI SOMEHOW loses, it will learn from that loss and NEVER make that mistake again.

>> No.6105349

>>6105342
Let me guess, you're subscribed to Musks twitter account, am i right?

>> No.6105353

>>6105346
Nice to know. But when will it replace human chess player?

>> No.6105364

>>6105353
>WOAH PEOPLE STILL PLAY CHESS AI BTFO
The interest there is competition between humans. Key word here is competition not production. Your comparison is dumb.

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Yeah I’m not too concerned for the immediate future.

>> No.6105459

>>6105353
The AI will kill and unzip the skin of a human chess player and assume their existence

>> No.6105502

>>6105349
how is that a constructive answer to the anon's comment? are you fucks going to also call anyone informed on this technolgy Musk Fans for knowing about SIlicon ""experts"" trying to pull the wool over people's eyes?

>inb4 ur in late stages of grief xD

Accepting that this is a very real, problem yes.

>> No.6105511

>>6105051
art is dead. Seriously.

From a financial perspective there will (within the next few years) be no reason to hire a flesh-and-blood artist or graphics designer to do work that can be accomplished by the descendants of DALLE for a $0.50 processing fee. Even if it's not perfect, a company can replace an entire creative team with a manager and a guy who can photoshop out any blemishes. An entire industry is about to be swept away in an instant.

From a creative perspective, it's massively faster, easier, and cheaper to simply type out a request and flick through a few hundred duds before you find a piece that matches your initial vision than it would be to draw or paint it yourself. I think that lowering the barrier for entry in creative spaces is good, but this also entirely kills any incentive to actually learn to draw yourself.

Mom and dad were right bros, we gotta go back to college and get real jobs.

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>> No.6105542

>>6105521
HOLY SOUL

>> No.6105552

AI will never replace artists until we invent consciousness and the singularity kills us all.

In 5-10 years from now, "smart render" is going to be a standard feature in art programs. You make a selection around some part of a wip painting and then the ai tries to render it further. How effective it is depends on how much you gave it to work with.

There will always be a slight ai-y feel to it, which will become more obvious the less you give it to go off of. So it will work best on a smaller scale as a time saving block-in.

Although I'm sure we'll see plently of perfect mildly generic ai-generated anime/realistic portraits, more complex artwork will be beyond its capabilities. Although sometimes it may make something interesting/meaningful by accident, you will almost always be able to tell.

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It's fucking over, human society will change radically in less than two decades.
Capitalism and the consumers made it very clear they want the human factor out, and if a little bit of quality have to be sacrified for it, so be it.

I can't believe there are retards here who still spouts on shit like "Lol get rekt, i won't get replaced anytime soon, X BTFO", the vast majority of the workforce will be replaced.
We still can't cure cancer, or colonize Mars, but Big Tech is sure as hell working hard to replace you and even the guys that work for them, and they're doing it fast, faster than any other sector.
When a sufficient portion of the population have been automatized and the majority of jobs will be highly sought out slave labour that cannot be automated due to poor rentability or practicality, we'll need to have a collective paradigm shift or die.

Because what do we, individuals, bring to the table? Nothing, literally nothing, society will be able to function easily for the ultra rich, not hard for them to imagine a world where there is just them and their bots.
But that is a dystopian scenario, what if we just moved on, accepted that work isn't the purpose of human life, what is there to do? Why do art when you'll never have 0.001% of the recognition of an average painter 200 years ago, because nobody is going to like YOUR piece more than they like THEIR own piece crafted by GoogleAI, proud of their own little creation.
No artist will be able to match something created FOR you, for your tastes by an all knowing AI.

And this will apply to any piece of media, any objects you consume or use.
I think the Matrix will eventually need to be real to appease our mind.

>> No.6105655

>>6105654
people have been saying this for hundreds and hundreds of years. Nothing new. Nothing changes.

>> No.6105665

>>6105655
Have you missed the global effect social media had in just the last couple years?
Do you realize how many jobs, adjusted to today economy, disappeared through the years? Scribs, stenodactylograph, whatever you call them were not delocalized to China, they no longer exist.

People need to get their head out of the sand, we're seeing change that never had any equivalent in human history in the last few years.
You can believe all you want that truckers, sile doctors and artist will stay in buisness because everyone like their pretty eyes, despite them being being less efficient and more costly.
You can believe that the meteoric progress the AI sector have seen will impact no one, that it will be for your entire lifetime, the fantasy of some silicon valley geeks, and that the AI that will be released in one or two years won't have any effect on any industry.
But you're deluding yourself.

Luddit may have been saying that two hundred of years but these guys still never got their job back.

>> No.6105668

>>6105511
>we gotta go back to college and get real jobs.

like what? not like the people graduating college won't be replaced soon either. everything is going to get automated by AI, and Art will be the backdoor to making an already bad situation even worse.
this isn't going to be an easy period, and frankly, people are going to have to inform themselves sooner rather than later, lest we end up in another 2010s situation where technology just halts progress further.

>> No.6105679

Just look at the #1 most popular subject in art, and realize that AI simply won't be allowed to go anywhere near it for the same reason it's not allowed to judge beauty pageants or predict crime.

>> No.6105726

>>6105668
>>6105654
it's absolutely fucking buck wild to me that we live in pretty much the only kind of society where robots doing all the work and taking everyone's jobs is a BAD thing.

>> No.6105880

>>6105726
People are shitting themselves because everyone replaced by AI is going to be a poor serf while a small circle of techno elitist boomers tell them "just get another job and work harder". It's pure dystopia

>> No.6105891

yeah, wake me up when AI can draw 10/10 anime tits. lmao, at best this shit will be used for nfts

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To all the black pilled people in this thread all i have to say is that art is more than painting or drawing.

I know of a chinese artist who starved himself in what he called endurance art

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I am uronucally seething.

As a digital artist, I'm majorly concerned. AI art is by no means perfect, but there is a difference of quality observable only to the trained eye. Pixelart, for example, has been the subject of many automated tools and filters, which will see a huge positive reception on most social media platforms. The average user just can't see the quality difference and will happily consume it. This "good enough" mentality is what is driving mass markets, and I don't think there is a genuine majority desire to see well-made content or craft.

The same applies to digital art and oil painting, watercolour etc. People who haven't studied it won't know or care that it's not possible to make certain shapes or interactions in the medium, or that the lines that the AI was trained on were used specifically to highlight something or make a comment. There is a growing desire for mediocre content driven by a need to consume which will see the significant reduction of art as a job.

Further, it really upsets me to know that content I have provided to the internet at large to advertise my skills is being weaponised against me to bootleg my own hard work. The alt-text we provide alongside our images to make our work accessible and available to the google search algorithm has been taken and used as training data without our consent. Now anyone can create content with the result of my decades of research for any purpose. They can use it to promote things I fundementally disagree with and would never accept money for, let alone do it for free in the space of fifteen seconds.

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>>6105948
cont: In regards to linguistics, I know someone who took a masters degree in linguistics only to find all the jobs have been reduced to correcting typos in google translate documents. It paid roughly two cents per ten words. There was no fun or joy in that work, and they were left in considerable debt for their four years of education.

This is the future of art, and I'm so tired of hearing about how it's an exciting new future for anyone with a half-baked idea of the art they want to create. Art is difficult and hard, and learning a medium is its own reward. Spending time with that image and seeing it develop in your hands is part of the craft and development of the image.

If you're sitting late at night at your computer spawning image after image and tweaking your prompts until you get the right one, it's no more "being an artist" than it is scrolling through a google image search results page.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>> No.6105957

>>6105679
What's is on the first place? Google says it's Traditional landscapes

>> No.6105975

>>6105948
yeah this is my biggest issue really. Every soulless retard claiming they're an artist because of pressing a button doesn't concern me, there will always be lots of people to dismiss the participation tropy losers, and the opinions of people who are soulless enough to buy into this didn't interest me either. But to have your work stolen by these CS insect men, placed in an expressionless AI machine with no individuality, making money off of it and then trying to humanize it by saying "actually it's learning because it creates new images just like you, see? It's not just automated photobashing, we live in the future just like in my hecking favorite sci fis, we made an AI that thinks on its own". That damage has already been done and it's disgusting. I don't wanna learn digital now and participate at aiding these thieving STEM cockroaches in their ongoing quest to destroy humanity and have us do nothing but consoooooom

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>> No.6106144

>>6105975
lol
new stage: anger

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>> No.6106147

>>6106144
the stages of grief are a meme with no scientific basis, I'm just going to stay angry.

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>> No.6106149

>>6106148
wtf i love AI now

>> No.6106150

>>6103846
Yes, it's over. Learn to code instead, or at least buy a pair od kneepads.

>> No.6106157

based AI making me give up this worthless time wasting hobby
now i can devote all my time to refreshing 4chan boards

>> No.6106168

I'm surprised 4chan mods haven't made an AI-only board where GPT just talks to itself all day (as a joke, or thought provoking experiment?). They could do that for next April 1st.

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>>6105950
>If you're sitting late at night at your computer spawning image after image and tweaking your prompts until you get the right one, it's no more "being an artist" than it is scrolling through a google image search results page.
this

>> No.6106296

>>6105950
>>6106288
>>If you're sitting late at night at your sketchpad appending mark after mark and tweaking your lines until you get the right one, it's no more "being an artist" than it is scrolling through a google image search results page.
dudes being an """artists""" was never a magical thing. and the difference between "sketching" and "searching" is an illusion

>> No.6106299

>>6106157
Don't kid yourself, you did that before AI threads

>> No.6106302

>>6106296
pyw

>> No.6106317

>>6103819
>Rapture is a ukrainian flag

lel

>> No.6106366

Eventually one of the big porn streaming sites trains an ai on all their data and starts putting out 20 second clips on a tick tock like platform that doesn't just guide you to content it thinks you'll like, it learns what you are into and generates it for you. Once that happens the species is fucked.

>> No.6106390

>>6106366
where how who do i fund
pls
give me
for the love of god i want this

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>>6106366
The gooners were right, pornosexuality is the future.

>> No.6106486

>>6106366
AI will soon create porn that will always be exciting to you, no more searching hours upon hours for the next thing that makes your penis react, it will analyze your brain and create the most optimal pornography image/video for you to enjoy.
I am so excited!

>> No.6106490

>>6106486
this It'll just optimize porn for me so I can quickly gain my post nut clarity.

>> No.6106511

>>6106490
Also pornstars you like will never hit the wall and will do the most dirty, nasty and raunchy stuff. You also don't need to self-insert anymore, it can scan you and put you in the actual video/image, a type of personal sextape if you will.

>> No.6106519

>>6106511
why not make it vr?

>> No.6106522

>>6106366
Reminder that gambling is all the proof you need that humans don't just get addicted to drugs, they can also get hooked on the chemicals their brains produce naturally. Tiktok is already an intermittent reinforcement skinnerbox slot machine, the only limit to its effectiveness is the quality of user content, which, mercifully, is atrocious.

I'd be super curious to see what impact the dopamine generator you're proposing would have on society. And as time progresses I'm increasingly grateful that when I was growing up internet porn was mostly just still images, flash games and 180p hentai clips.

>> No.6106526

>>6106519
That option will be there too but the other one would be for people that don't like POV or just want a change in perspective.

>> No.6106535

>>6106366
actually I was a little wrong >>6106522 makes a great point bringing up gambling, gambling isn't addictive because you get what you want, it's addictive because it maybe gives you what you want. The porn companies will want you using their app for as long as possible so it won't give you exactly what you want, it will give you an endles supply of almost what you want but not quite, so you have to watch just one more clip, maybe that one will have it. Just good enough to keep you using but not good enough to let you finish. Forever.

>> No.6106537

>>6106366
>can generate an endless amount of cp
ai fags are literally the most retarded species on the planet

>> No.6106541

>>6106537
when the fuck did I say cp? if it's trained on regular porn videos it will only have data of adults

>> No.6106545

>>6106522
>Reminder that gambling is all the proof you need that humans don't just get addicted to drugs, they can also get hooked on the chemicals their brains produce naturally.
>>6106535
Humans can also get addicted to people. Narcissists have this intermittent reward effect on their victims.

>> No.6106654

Fuck, i hoped the Musulmans would be on our side in the upcoming war. But they betrayed us. They will worship the Shaitan Machine with the rest of the humanity... it will be hard bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoNtbynvgmY

>> No.6106673

>>6106168
That's all of the boards though.

>> No.6106678

>>6105923
>all drawings, paintings, etc are AI generated
>the only human art remaining is retarded "performance art" where some guy stands on a street corner and shoves eggs up his ass

The future is bleak

>> No.6106687

>>6106144
I am at this stage for like 10 years, and i only now started caring about art don't worry. I majored in computer science and economics, and i fucking despised it ever since, together with the holier than thou attitude of all STEMcells i had to interact during my 1st job. My anger has only grown ever since i keep getting reminded of these techno pests

>> No.6106785

>>6106687
Same I did think it might reside after the first five but got worse overtime. I recall they used to make fun of Jaron Lanier. Suddenly artist/professionals seem to be caring about how their data is being used. Though they didn't give a shit before when it was the translation jobs vanishing.

>> No.6106816

How are you holding up?
I would lie if i said my motivation wasn't seriously hurt after that.
The future just seems so tasteless, i thought art would be something i could hold on to and progress until the end of my life like Hokkusai, that whatever happens it would be an anchor to meaning.

>> No.6106842

>>6104787
>>6104795
>tfw the AI has more soul than the artfag

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>>6106816
Art is literally all I have. I was too autistic to go to school and in my late 20s I don't even have a high school diploma. I finally got gud and started making enough to live off when this shit happens. Sometimes I just think of leaving civilization and going inna woods like forest anon or the north pond hermit. While civilization collapses from tiktok induced mass psychosis I'll be drawing trees in the wilderness. That would be comfy wouldn't it

>> No.6106926

I have a thought experiment. Imagine if you trained the best ai around on every piece of art pre impressionism but nothing after, could you give it a prompt that would lead to an impressionist painting?

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>> No.6106942

>>6103813
Is artistry over?
Being bested by AI in every regard makes me wanna give up.

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>>6106942
In all honesty? This will only be accessible in a couple hundred years later once the world is stable enough to make it accessible for everybody online because you'd think people are ready for this, given people nowadays are awfully psychotic and more heinous than ever when being introduce by new technology you'd think they will use it for sinister purposes. Hell there could be another world war since Putin won't settle down any time in our lifetime also let's not forget the fact america has a crime crisis and will stay like that in our lifetime too so I don't this AI be release in our era.

>> No.6107174

>>6107168
Tons of people on reddit have it. It will only grow and eventually be released. Remember GPT-3 wasn't going to be released because it was too dangerous and then it was. Technically this is also GPT-3 but you know what I mean.

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>>6107174
Tons of people yes BUT they are perfectly carefully selected for a very good reason knowing these are testing grounds to see the process. There's a reason why some are in the waitinglist in which in reality they will stay in that limbo and will never see the light knowing some will use it for heinous purposes and you can bet some third world shitter with high programming skills will take advantage of it.

< It will only grow and eventually be released. Remember GPT-3 wasn't going to be released because it was too dangerous and then it was
You are right on this but the thing is the people of this new generation and perhaps the upcoming ones are far unstable and got their genes beyond fucked enough to know the obvious consequences. I'm sure they are silently watching the media and the ones that got lucky on having dall-e 2 in which its just demo. We gotta face the fact the world has gone more crooked than before and you can be assure this technology will be accessible for better stable generations because there's no absolute way they will release this in our lifetime.

>> No.6107189

>>6107185
Also I fucked the greentext damn it

>> No.6107203

>>6107185
you seem to think that google has our best interests at heart

>> No.6107235

>>6107185
I'm really not sure where you get this idea that the people behind this shit care about the consequences of unleashing it.

>> No.6107261

>Too much traffic
I just wanna see florida painted by bosch.

>> No.6107262

>>6107235
The only thing I can think of that could potentially make them worry sick is knowing someone being smart enough to manipulate AI to create CP art or more CP content material thus leading to new potential marketing to the black market. You'd think OpenAI wants to be associated with pedophilia because some people will eventually wanted to do this once they shrug off the prohibited limitations.

>> No.6107285

>>6107262
Other anon. I think that this topic is not of their interest in the structural, in the core thinking, just because this thing is intented to be a tool for speed up production, in the law field, is not a real problem since they are few legislations about child porn illustrations, in a pragmatic way of thinking is not a matter since is not even real, the same way in most of country that dont have legislations about this, they dont have because they are worry about the actual real pedos that are consuming and mostly producing that real life content.
In the makert field i think of course this could lend in a hot topic which of course would tend to harm them more than benefit them, but my personal opinion is that they are aware of that and probably dont care. The most simple thing i can think about secure their path across this topic is by making the AI a product, wich will be exclusive for individuals working in official industries, i mean to say that they register as a workplace, pay taxes, have workers, bosses, directors, etc, later, there will be access to any individual who pays the required amount, to a service for which they will have to register and will be fully tracked.
That's easy to do even only the latest, because that way you directly you derive the responsibility to the individuals and not to the company, since i mentioned before it is rather a pragmatic question,and if that happens then they have their solution.
It is the same thing that happens, for example, with current programs like Daz Studio, wich was not intended to make porn, but, since individuals misuse the program, and not the company, individuals are the ones who commit "the crime" and not the company.
That's why i think they dont give a fuck about that, since they are several precedents of companies with the same problem.

>> No.6107306

>>6107285
then we can just continue to the first quesiton, wich should be, ¿Child porn drawing convert normal people into pedos?, because that's the only problem in the end, pedos consume their shit, so, is not about the child images but about the actual real life childs that are used IN the images, that's the problem and what most polices go for. If child porn images convert normal people into pedos, then the solution is even more simple and goverments just need to ban every site that host those kind of images, and ban every person who upload a pedo drawing, easy to do.
But i think that is not the problem. The problem are just real life pedos wich produce the images, the final question should be what happens if people all over the world produce child porn images, but there is no pedo in the world that produce real life images of childs, leaving them secure, should that be a crime? is the answer is no, since no person is harmed or abused, then is no problem and can be there, if the answer is yes, then just ban all child porn in the internet and chase the producers of those not real images around the world, and done. In both scenarios, the groups that are working with this artificial intelligence and those that will come will not lose anything

>> No.6107363

>>6105168
The prompt used is in the filename. It was also posted at https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/v9g1t4/doctors_going_crazy_because_of_an_apple_that_is/ .

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>>6107285
>>6107306
>OpenAI thinks they can stop potential programmers from doing any of the list
I think its safe to say the AI system is the pandora box.

>> No.6107379

FYI: A week ago the person funding open source alternatives to DALL-E 2, Google's Imagen, and Make-A-Scene mentioned that they will be available "Hopefully in a month or so." Source: https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1533885044195999746 .

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>>6107364
>He doesn’t know the prompts
How sad

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>>6107380
Give anime girl prompts I’ll do anything

>> No.6107389

>>6104527
This

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>>6104600

>> No.6107393

>>6105079
wow cool

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>>6107379
what a bitch

>> No.6107400

>>6107185
It's possible. I do think the death of Flash was to strip people of too much autonomy. I don't think people realized how good that was linking vectors and its ease of coding. Internet took a nose dive there and became blland and sterile for a whlie. But this thing seems too big everyone knows about it and what it can do.

>> No.6107402

>>6106148
What was the prompt???

>> No.6107415

5 years from now "post your work" will have turned into "post your prompt"

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'A monkey holding a sign that says "Bite me!"' using https://geni.vercel.app/ . More text-to-image systems using the same (or similar) neural network model are at https://www.reddit.com/r/bigsleep/comments/tw8656/woah_there_dragonman_16_output_images_with/ .

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>>6107446
That's just Latent Diffusion with a fancy GUI.
https://huggingface.co/spaces/multimodalart/latentdiffusion

>> No.6107456

>>6107455
Yes, but probably faster.

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coombros, I think we are safe for now!

>> No.6107476

>>6107466
just fapped to this, thanks

>> No.6107489

>>6104821
This will happen but only if an artist sues them, they will win and it will set a precedent. If I was artstation I would be looking to block their data mining because all the talent that built that site is about to be flooded by an endless sea of AI trash

>> No.6107520

I haven’t touched stylus for years but here’s an advice for you artfags:

Draw your things in weird angles! It can draw a bear but it can’t then redraw the same bear rotated along the Y axis by 45° and 60° along X axis and 20° along Z axis. This is trivial for you to do even without help of any 3D modeling software I mean I can imagine it pretty easily and I am not an artist or an architect, but the AI will never be able to do it because there are precisely few images of things in wierd angles compared to endless supply of images in the usual angles and even if the supply is sufficient who would anotate them so it can learn?

>> No.6107573

>>6105511.
>we gotta got get one of the many oversaturated degrees (yes that includes STEM) everyone else is getting so there's no real way for mister feinberg to underwrite our risk as labor
>oops alot of those jobs lead to station type lab monkey work that you can see a machine easily do
Only reason to believe in the college me is if you cannot legally pursue your career nor be considered for a higher tier job whatsoever without a degree.

>> No.6107577

>>6107168
>doesn't even mention the inevitable economic collapse decades in the making
>pulls out arbitrary centuries later number out of his ass
>America has a nigger crisis so there won't be any AI in the world period.
Not persuaded

>> No.6107587

>>6107573
Labmonkey’s job is to operate and maintain those machines and understand them well enough to design experiments on them if you work in R&D. It6s something the machiens cannot do themselves and any machine that could would be a full motion autonomous robot way more expensive to maintain that to pay a human.

t. labmonkey

>> No.6107601

>>6107466
Motherfuckers created a new fetish, without even knowing

>> No.6107620

>>6106785
But ai is still garbage at translations

>> No.6107633

>>6107285
He's not talking about lolis that are obviously cartoons he's talking about realistic depictions of kids, at some point all one would have to do is use normal pictures of kids and feed it into the ai bot that will take the face and apply it to a naked body.

>> No.6107635

>>6107520
Okay but it's only a matter of time before they add 3d posing figure

>> No.6107700

>>6104021
You know that virgin stem nerds are itching to kill art, right? They want this so bad, there is no way they'll drop it.

>> No.6107705

>>6107700
>kill art
>literally making a new tool that makes art easier and expands creative possibilities
be more self absorbed

>> No.6107711

>>6107705
It's currently a tool and only animenigger vtuber artists are at risk. After that it'll be soulless concept art fags that will go. Both types aren't real artists so their routine, soulless work being automated is to be expected.

But you very shortsighted to think that this won't progress to the point where almost all artists are wholly irrelevant. You will be a robot artist herder at the VERY best.

Doesn't matter to me because I have a normal job so I'm not threatened at all by this and will continue to enjoy art. But this will 100% become a problem.

>> No.6107715

>>6107711
then its not killing art. just "artists"

>> No.6107723

>>6107711
>robot artist herder
this is what will hapen, because that's the fate of all automated jobs. Correct ai fuckups. But honestly that doesn't matter there's no point in being an artist anymore if that's what you must do, because you remove the human involved process. It loses it's sovl completely. Half the reason i like art is because i know that someone skilled did it. It's literally why i began learning to draw, the impressive skills and the identity of the style, like your own handwriting. I am envious on their ability to draw and paint itself, so what's the fucking point then. Lots of people will basically commission the AI with keywords and now these faggots will think themselves artists on top of it

>> No.6107724

>>6107711
it'll be a problem for career artists, that's for sure. the people making exhibitions will either embrace AI as a new tool to make low-quality shit they can swindle for high prices, or they'll make a political stance and brand themselves as human artists.
either way, it shouldn't be surprising that capitalists seek new exciting ways to exploit its working force, in this case it's the ultimate exploit - completely replacing the workforce so they don't have to pay anyone. it's super lame.

>> No.6107730

>>6107715
no art without artists dumbass. Commissioning an AI with words doesn't make you an artist if that's what you believe. Removing the human artisan from the equation will make it so that it's no longer art. Any pretentious philosophical argument that you will come up with that tries to equate a shitty consciousless machine with a human is nonsensical. Not only by this simple difference, but a machine cannot even develop its own identity. Humans can learn from the real world and develop their own style, unlike AI. Machines are soulless trash whether they will replace humans or not

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>>6107379
I hate STEM faggots so much it's unreal

>> No.6107739

>>6105948
Why don't you just use it yourself. You could pump out every personal project you got into this for in a fraction of the time and cost. You're already digital rather than an oil painter or whatever.

>> No.6107741

>>6107730
>no art without artists dumbass.
You're the dumbass if you think that's true.
>Commissioning an AI with words doesn't make you an artist if that's what you believe.
That's obviously not what I believe.
>Removing the human artisan from the equation will make it so that it's no longer art.
Can you make a philosophical argument for why you think that? Art has come into existence without artists all the time even before computers.
>Any pretentious philosophical argument that you will come up with that tries to equate a shitty consciousless machine with a human is nonsensical.
The machine doesn't have to be human. All it has to do is generate variation, and humans, art scenes, and art institutions will make human meaning out of it. The art world currently is already. A complex social system of critiquing and sorting, and now it's just getting new modules.
>Not only by this simple difference, but a machine cannot even develop its own identity. Humans can learn from the real world and develop their own style, unlike AI.
>Machines are soulless trash whether they will replace humans or not
I don't think you really grasp what the machine can produce without even "knowing" anything about what it's doing. These things will be encoded into its works via exposure.

>> No.6107743

>>6107739
>You could pump out every personal project you got into this for in a fraction of the time and cost.
Because then he might get less credit for it! Oh no :(

>> No.6107746

>>6107743
Much like how everyone photo/kitbashing on artstation gets less credit.

>> No.6107750

People have a hard time comprehending that the machine can make meaningful works. They mistakenly imagine that it will have to produce said works all on its own in isolation. Why do they think about it this way? Because they are delusional and think that is what they are currently doing when they create things.

>> No.6107757

>>6107741
sounds like techfaggotry speech to me combined with the asinine philosophy I've predicted. If you do not create it yourself the "art" isn't worth anything. If you sing a song, it will be 99.9% less impressive if it isn't yours this is a fact believed by the vast majority of humanity, not an opinion. And that's why removing the human involvement will simply destroy art.

>> No.6107761

>>6107750
I think you're delusional for believing that, because you have been brought up this way by a failed society that teaches kids that everyone's a winner, there are no losers, and hands them over awards over simply being. No you are not special, and you never will be special unless you prove it

>> No.6107764

>>6107757
Art is not about being impressive. I think you should go be an athlete or something if training and competing is what you're really into.
>And that's why removing the human involvement will simply destroy art.
But it's not removing human involvement. These works are generated by humans engaging creatively with clever systems. AIs can't do anything "on their own" just like artists can't.

>> No.6107767

>>6107761
>Winners and losers! Winners and losers! SPORTS! SPORTS! SPORTS!

>> No.6107769

The moment DALLE opens to the public is the day /ic/ completely dies off

>> No.6107776

>>6107757
>If you do not create it yourself the "art" isn't worth anything.
Good thing value is subjective and no problem can be found here when you look at all the mass produced media like seasonal anime that's begging to be done by an AI. It's not as if you'll know it was.

>> No.6107782

FUCK THE AI, I'M TAKING THE TRACING PILL

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>> No.6107891

>>6107885
SOUL
This right here proves AI can make true art

>> No.6107915

>>6107764
yes it is, because it is impressive. No amount of cope will save you from your mediocrity
>only athletes are impressive
what a retarded argument

>> No.6107929

>>6107915
No stupid, only athletes *care* about impressing. Art has almost nothing to do with handing out credit and trophies to the people who generate it. Art lives beyond the hands that create it.

>> No.6107943

AI bros, it's over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BcqU9VF8zI

>> No.6107944

>>6107943
2020, that's not the future old man

>> No.6107962

>>6107944
Nonono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iug8FAl0B1U

>> No.6107971

>>6107700
Most stemshits I know are amateur artists to some degree.

>> No.6107977

>>6107962
Looking pretty impressive for the future of AI technology

>> No.6107999

It feels like they've created the camera for visual ideas.

>> No.6108046

>>6106816
planning on switching to trad arts soon. Im still in denial but i find myself winning when i can beat an ai using walls of text as a prompt. a robot just isnt creative.

>> No.6108060

>>6108046
You better start as soon as you can, lots of people are thinking the same as you

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https://files.catbox.moe/4h3da9.mp4

>> No.6108096

>>6108091
cool

>> No.6108097

>>6108091
I think this is the first time I actually see the Ai in action, not just the results. Thanks!

>> No.6108100

>>6108097
i lifted it from twitter. plenty of people on there showing video demos

>> No.6108305

>>6107520
DE2 creates original artwork

>> No.6108349

>>6108305
>photobashing filter mapper
yes very original artwork

>> No.6108357

>>6108349
>photobashing
Not what it does

>> No.6109106

>>6108357
that's exactly what it does. unless you try to sell the idea that it's AGI

>> No.6109459

new thread
>>6109458

>> No.6109767

Why are AI threads deleted but e-celebs and /beg/ escapee can keep posting the shit we've seen for a thousandth time?
Am i the one going insane or is everyone completely deluded? They plan to release DALLE-2 by 2022-2023, and the CEO himself said he believes it WILL impact negatively the art industry.
We're talking about the future of art as a hobby, as a culture and more importantly for some people as a way to literally eat.

And it's not some anticipation shit, it is not decades away it is MONTHS away, it's fucking over and people still try to ignore it.

>> No.6109782

>>6109767
you can't make the same thread 10 times over, if people made /beg/ 10 times 9 would get deleted or mods aren't doing their job. Which they often aren't which is why we sometimes see 10 ai threads up.

>> No.6109790

>>6109782
For such an important matter the board should be flooded.
And we already see a bunch of samey thread on post, while there's what ? 3 AI threads who get deleted instantly?
We don't need a brazillions thread of /sqtddtot/ escapees or /beg/ asking what brush will make them paint like Craig Mullins, but i fucking need to vent somewhere or i'll go insane.

>> No.6109801

>>6109790
No? This thread takes 4 days to bumplimit, why would you split it into a billion threads that all take weeks to bumplimit? it splits the conversation and shits up the board.

>> No.6109917

do we have to wait for this thread to actually fall off the board to make a new /aia/
or do we have to just migrate to the other ai thread?

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>>6109946

>> No.6110098

>>6109767
I'm happy it's coming out soon, creativity not being limited by skill is a good thing.

>> No.6110106

>>6110098
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
every single artist who wasted years grinding loomis

>> No.6110119

>>6110106
Good, hopefully all the mediocre artist who think themselves gods get knocked down a few notches.
40 bucks for a sketch? I don't think so buddy

>> No.6110120

>>6104928
you can't make twitter accounts without phone number anymore

>> No.6110122

>>6105125
well at least stock photo companies will die lol. Ai might be ueful for making royalty free bgm which don't have to be very long or high quality.

>> No.6110126

>>6105975
You have inspired me. If I see a stem fag outside I will punch him/her in the face.

>> No.6110130

>>6110098
>>6110106
>>6110119
it seems to be that the only people who support this shit are inept ngmis who got bullied. you are nothing without the skill. and you'll pay fat subscriptions to access this, they won't be retarded to not monetize this to high hell.

>> No.6110134

>>6110130
Personal AI use will be much cheaper than paying a commission to get a single image a week from when you first contacted the artist

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>>6110130
>anger
>cope
>seethe
Go doodle anime girls faggot lol

>> No.6110157

>>6110134
This killed most of /int/ and above from /ic/

>> No.6110184

>>6110126
it's not just a right, it's a duty.

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c-corporations will be fu-furious! they will shut down all ai art research!

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>>6110130
Because down deep people don't care about the craft, don't care about composition, don't care about how those volumes, those shape you represent can actually transmits more than their base purpose, they don't care about the art, they think they're creative and that learning all what our ancestors transmitted for hundred of years is just a hassle, they cannot be satisfied with their imagination and they'll never have the drive to learn to do anything.

It is the entire story of these last 20 years, we're just making things accessible for more and more retard, computers are too complicated, try an app on your smartphone, it's all been about making things simpler for the laziest and dumbest schmuck ready to share his data or throw a cents.

Down deep they just don't care.

>> No.6110241

>>6110212
We've been drawing for so long and we still have not evolved to have it come naturally. Certain things simply weren't meant to be. AI is the way

>> No.6110256

>>6110212
shut up you stupid boomer

>> No.6110370

I really don't get why anyone in favour of this ai would be on this board, it's like going on /mu/ to talk about how happy you are about going deaf

>> No.6110383

>>6110370
They are pretty excited for their AI too

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>about 10 years ago, I was talking to a friend of mine and I was saying that if there is any technology that could turn thoughts into arts, designs, and music, I would become a great artist.
>But I had this thought more than 10 years ago! and now they are about to bring this tech to the real world!? That's so cool! Hats off buddies!

>I believe, the most powerful thing of an art is the imagination behind that art. In fact, imagination is the most important thing. So, the skill of drawing is a tool just. Yes, it surely requires great talent and effort but, there are lots of people who can draw better yet cannot imagine something creative or unique to put that on a physical canvas.

>On the other hand, there are people who ain't skilled enough to draw yet can use their imagination and if, they could turn that imagination into a drawing, it might become a wonderful masterpiece.

>Turning texts into A.I. generated art is just a beginning. Yes, there r so many matters to think about. Like, the uniqueness of an individual Artist. But apart from that, what's exciting to me is, soon it would be possible to convert the imagination into art. Someone's own creation, own style and uniqueness.

Check this youtube comment of someone very excited for that shit, you can't make this shit up.
Art is all about imagination dude! It's about making wacky shit, god damn i was too lazy to learn anything good and never had enough drive to actually try to create those thing.
But with that, my beautiful self is going to be able to express itself through the words, unless those stuck up tards who only knew how to draw, i'm gonna like imagine "Space folding onto itself and birthing a tree with human as leaves" or "A dictator giving a speech with roots growing out of his feets" it'll be deep man.

Imagine if Moreau could have just wrote "Big guy on a chair with a pale chick on his knee and bunch of dudes, with plenty of ornament and shit", how much effort he would have spared himself.

>> No.6110459

>>6110370
stupid comparison. its not like that at all
>>6110392
yeah yeah art is when you grind and grind and grind and win trophies for your grindness

>> No.6110468

>>6110212
>cope
I'd rather put my limited time and effort into something more productive in the real world than art nobody gives a second glance at (like most art)

>> No.6110507

>>6110459
>>6110468
These things are lost on you.
A big reason why you'll always be perma/beg/ is that you don't know what makes a piece great, you don't even know how to read it.

>> No.6110534

>>6110507
I don't need to, none of that matters anymore.
You'll be limited by creativity not skill.

>> No.6110619

>>6110534
There will be no creativity, the AI will do most of the heavy lifting for you and you'll pat yourself on the back saying "Wow, what a great artist i am".
To "draw" a man fighting a lion in the savanah, you won't imagine what shape the lion's head will have, what it will convey or represent, you won't imagine if the man have his fist clenching the knife with determination or loosely keep it in his hands as the fight starts to leave him.
You won't imagine what color is the sky, how many baboons are watching them in the nearby tree, you won't imagine if the shadows is falling on the man face or on the lions fur.

Skills are not limitations, they are precisely what allows you to get closer to the unattainable picture your mind can conceive and what gives it its form and meaning.

It's yet another "tool" for the average retard, too lazy, too uncultured to do anything to pat himself on the back doing nothing.