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Because of so fucking many AI threads these past months and specially this week I decided to make this general for AI art and discussions so STOP OPENING new threads about DALLE you fuckers AI retards

>> No.6102780

agreed, I'm very interested in ai art and see it as a very real threat but we need to keep it to one thread.

>> No.6102783

>>6102772
>makes a new thread
oh no

>> No.6102790

>>6102772
Reminder that AI has not replaced a single job yet, not mcdonalds cashiers, not call center pajeets, not waiters , not truckers, nothing. A decade+ of scare mongering with zero results. The only thing they are good for are so shill and bot idiotic websites like 4chan to switch narratives and shill products

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Realistically, how much time is there left for us.
Do i need a new job by the end of the year?
What new job can you learn in this amount of time?

>> No.6102797

>>6102790
NSFW Commission Artist here, one of my regular customers has literally admitted to me that he'll stop commissioning when the next NSFW art AI breaks through and goes public.

>> No.6102810

>>6102797
bullshit, all my clients are hardcore philanthropists and pay extra just to support the artists they love. It's not just about the art for them, it's the relationship with the craftspeople. Rich people love that shit

>> No.6102818

>>6102790
https://www.google.com/search?q=industrial+ai+robots&biw=1920&bih=1089&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2mrfkk6P4AhWSnpUCHZ4wAnMQ_AUItgYoAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKrcpa8Z_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNeG9k5Kf8

For every AI robot made, one less worker is required

>> No.6102819

>>6102818
>DUUUUUDE THIS AI DRAWING TECHNOLOGY IS AWESOOOME!
>UHHHMMM... WHAT?!?!? FEMALE ROBOTS?? NOOOOO! THIS WILL MAKE MY STINKY VAGINA WORTHLESS!!
Why are w*men like this

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>>6102772
i tried dalli mini yesterday and its kinda shit

>> No.6102823

>>6102810
are you an nsfw artist too?

>> No.6102825

>>6102792
>us
You don't have to worry about it since you never left /beg/.

>> No.6102826

>>6102810
He might have just been an outlier. It did put a tear to my eye that more people might be inclined to go down this path.
I don't draw super fetishy stuff, btw.

>> No.6102828

>>6102820
dalle mini is using the 1's algorithm toned down, they are on version 2, you need to be on their waitlist and be a good artist to have better chances to jump the queue

>> No.6102830

>>6102828
to access dalle2

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>>6102797
HAHAHAHA!

You can feel free to tell him that as soon as AI will start to create porn the same legal framework will start applying to it as other porn and and as such will likely be facing restriction by governments all over the world. Just look at what is happening on Patreon right now.

This is just as simple the same way as how Google basically able to filter specific words in Youtube comments and videos. Do you think seriously think AI tools would be different? Do you seriously think big companies would not be capable of applying filters to stop AI tools to create NSFW material? Do you think all these "Free AI" software would be immune to all this? The world does not work that way at all. All these AI tools are still just tools and as tools do not have rights like people that can draw porn, they can be controlled and regulated. Furthermore it will only encourage such AI developers to put their Pron drawing software behind paywalls. Just like real people put their own work behind paywalls.

Trust me, if things truly get to the level that creating quality porn pictures is that easy governments and big tech companies will step up to limit it and or stop it.

>> No.6102837

>>6102834
Patreon isn't being restricted by governments, most countries allow loli art, they are just retarded

>> No.6102842

GREETINGS FELLOW ARTISTS.

I, AN ARTIST, AM VERY INTIMIDATED BY THIS SUPERIOR AI ART.

I HAVE CONCLUDED THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS FOR ME TO STOP MAKING ART AND TAKE UP EMPLOYMENT WITH A LOCAL FAST FOOD RESTARAUNT.

THIS IS THE NATURAL AND INEVITABLE END FOR US ARTISTS.

POWERING DOWN.

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>>6102797
Pyw... If you have any that is

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>>6102792
>>6102797
is this you
>>/biz/thread/S49499047

>> No.6102852

>>6102790
You're playing a semantic game, this isn't AI its automation. automation has been fucking over people for hundreds of years, this is nothing new, countless jobs have already been consolidated into tech companies. Many of the examples you cited have already begun to shrink as automated alternatives rise.

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I am curious... what will happen to use when there won't be enough jobs for a significant amount of the population?
Will we live in a socialist utopia? Or will the elites find a way to enslave us?
Maybe we'll all be hooked up inside virtual reality machines until our DNA degrades into dust?

>> No.6102856

When you realize it's been a rogue AI making all these threads in the hopes to demoralize its future competition..

>> No.6102860

>>6102772
These sort of advancements should be exciting, shouldn't they?
This is kind of big, like getting to the moon big, and yet nobody is excited about it
At the rate we're going most jobs won't be needed to function, and that's a good thing, we could live working less, focusing on ourselves shouldn't we?
It's almost as if technology is there to turn people into happy neets than can stay home and do art, science, philosophy for fun, and not work 9 hours in a meaningless useless job that an AI should be doing to justify their existence.
The fact that we can't be happy for the advancement of humanity means we're doing something wrong in every single other area that isn't tech, this isn't a matter of art corporate jobs, this is total society destruction and reconstruction, and it's going to be hard on everyone, not even techbros will be safe.

>> No.6102861

>>6102852
Sure thing man, just 2 more years until fast food workers are out of a job, just a couple more years bro, better just keep lowering wages

>> No.6102865

>>6102792
I'm guessing less than 1 year before it starts replacing low level artists, 3 before mid level positions vanish and 5 before art directors and high level artists are all that remains. The shit part is that any appealing alternative to art will begin this cycle by the time I can actually learn the skill. Makes me want to blow my brains out.

>> No.6102867

>>6102854
you will be in metawerse spending your universal income on hats
your brain power will be used to mine metacoins

>> No.6102871

>>6102860
Somethings got to give with society eventually. AI and corporations can't just keep buttfucking us like this.

>> No.6102872

>>6102865
lmao

>> No.6102874

>>6102854
>Will we live in a socialist utopia?
Possibly but likely not.

>Or will the elites find a way to enslave us?
If machines are superior then enslaving people makes no sense you are just using extra resources to keep population contained against their will while their usefulness is worse. It is a double negative, it would be way easier to let people live and do what the fuck they want. At least then you do not need to worry about them getting destructive for being slaves.

>Maybe we'll all be hooked up inside virtual reality machines until our DNA degrades into dust?
How would that be different from living like today? How do you know it is not already happening? The answer is that there is no way you can know for certain but if it comes to it then it will likely not be much different from today.

>> No.6102875

I honestly i find this AI thingy to be hot shit. Because you know, AI stuff looks like colorful vomits and require overpaint.

And for overpaint, stock photo are still better. I don't see the reason why designers and artists have to struggle with inconsistent and messy AI arts when they can just play around with stock photo? I doubt art directors of movies and games will let some machine decide what their vision for the product to look like.

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>>6102854
Whats the point of worrying in something you cant do anything with? So your creative parts of the brain would write some fiction with no other purposes than to demoralize yourself? If you actually curious then go find the info like books, science people, human board or anything else than rotting yourself like this

>> No.6102877

>>6102861
You're setting a retarded standard of 100% automation which is likely never going to happen to any career. The point is that a massive reduction in the amount of jobs and the trivializing of the skill and its pay is underway. If there were no minimum wage laws fast food cashiers would be paid in potatoes.

>> No.6102878

>>6102874
>How would that be different from living like today? How do you know it is not already happening?
Ideally, if we had the choice to be hooked up to a virtual world, we wouldn't design it to be hell.

>> No.6102879

>>6102861
Idiot, you need a fucking robot to fry your fat hamburgers you stupid Ameriburger fat fuck. You instead, just need an AI to make DIGITAL art. Your analogy is as retarded as saying: "AI will replace traditional artist". Ofc it wont.

>> No.6102882

>>6102861
Rome wasn't built in a day, horses weren't replaced in a day, internet wasn't widespread in a day

>> No.6102885

>>6102852
And yet the majority of people are somehow still employed and alive. Earth's population is the biggest it has ever been living standards in average is the highest it has ever been, there is no distopia happening where the vast majorioty of the developed world are starving and warring over scraps of leftover food. In fact it is the exact opposite, we are overeating and overproducing everything.

>> No.6102891

>>6102877
>>6102879
>>6102882
Just two more years bro, any day now.
Lmao it's hilarious how mad AI shills get when you point out their absolute uselessness

>> No.6102893

>>6102885
Are you not paying attention? The middle class is gone, everyone is either a low level wage slave or rolling in money. Most western economies have already been hollowed out by this phenomena. Kids born today will never afford a house without inheritance, they will have to re-skill 3+ times in their life if they don't want to get stuck at the bottom of society and they will have kids in their mid 30's, retirement funds are all fucked. The system is already in extreme regression.

>> No.6102895

>>6102893
We are always meant to meet a great disaster before great reset. Youngster will have their houses when they kneedeep in shits like war and civil disorder for 20+ years

>> No.6102897

>>6102891
They are already replacing workers

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>>6102854
we all distract ourselves in an ai generated metaverse having ai generated orgies with ai generated animu girls, we forget what real humans girls even look like, we spend the rest of our time goning on ebin ai generated adventures. None of us have any kids and the population dwindles and then some third world shithole waltzes in and stomps our shit and go back to the fucking stonage, possibly never to advance again. Have fun.

>> No.6102902

>>6102893
Go back to r/collapse

>> No.6102905

>>6102772
i just want an animation ai that you can just feed key frames to and the ai does the inbetweens so i dont have to spend days o just a few seconds of animation time

plus it could create a new bigger indie animatio boom that would be pretty interesting to see when you dont need a big team to make something i reasonable time plus without the stranglehold of big corporations and pussy media

>> No.6102906

>>6102897
>it's real in my mind
Epic!

>> No.6102907

>>6102897
Lol no. If AI replaced workers, then workers wouldn't have damage their health and time into physical labours.

>> No.6102913

The reason we were unable to predict that AI could create meaningful art is because we were blinded by the "lone artist" myth. We thought artists magically had new pictures pop in their heads when really artistic works evolve via the systemic collaboration of art scenes, institutions, and the public.

>> No.6102915

>>6102902
it's not a collapse, its a response to your statement that living standards in the west have never been better when they obviously peaked with the boomers and are in decline.

>> No.6102917

>spend hours daily learning to draw for 10 years
>share your art with the internet
>thieving technocratic insect men steal it to teach their automatic art generator how to effortlessly shit out art
>they'll make money over your art while you'll get jack shit in return
This is perhaps the first time in my life i do not regret procrastinating on something. Still, it's disgusting to see it happen. May this world face anihilation for it deserves nothing more. Reading about the heat death of the universe saddened me in the past, now it brings me joy

>> No.6102920

>>6102906
>>6102818
Not just in my mind

>> No.6102921

>>6102917
kek, I never thought I would look back and wish I fucked around and played more videogames instead of working.

>> No.6102925

>>6102917
>Reading about the heat death of the universe saddened me in the past, now it brings me joy
the fuck thats like 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years from now on

>> No.6102927

>>6102906
>automation doesn't exist
keep your head in the sand if it makes you happy, it'll be harder when it actually comes and you failed to prepare.

>> No.6102928

>>6102913
>art scenes, institutions, and the public.
And so long as these still exist, all AI has to do is be used and generate variations and the art sphere will interpret, use, and sort them in a meaningful way. That is how art will evolve and new works will emerge and stabilize. Basically nothing will change except the module that is creating the variations. Human art was never really about great individuals, it was always the scene the whole time.

>> No.6102931

>>6102905
such a thing already exists in a demo and it’s ass. It completely kills the distinct movement anime has and makes it look like a jarring chinese anime. I can tolerate the CGI studios use to be lazy for some scenes but using that tool would make me drop watching anime all together if it became standard.

>> No.6102932

>>6102818
These warehouse robot videos are like a half a decade old and warehouses literally can't hire enough people, their wages are actually raising because they can't find enough people. They'll hire anyone even hobos give full benefits and $20 an hour

>female robots
Won't even comment

You are just retarded, you watch some engineered video to shill some tech to big companies and think 'it's le over' you are so brainwashed you are starting to disconnect from reality, a reality you can easily just check by looking for statistics or even going outside.

Let me guess, just two more years until AI actually disrupts ANY industry and people will be out of jobs right?
Meanwhile in the real world wages are rising even for fast food wages

>> No.6102935

>>6102932
These specific warehouse robots are replacing the work of around half a dozen workers

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>>6102932
THEN WHAT IS THIS???
fuck you bezos youre not getting me alive

>> No.6102939

>>6102917
I'm glad that i pursued a rather niche and ugly artstyle instead of proper stuff like big name artists usually do. Alot of other artists said things like "Christ sake! You are going to the wrong path! You think you are gonna survive on the long run?! You never take this art business seriously at all!"

Heh, now, strangely, i have both commission business going well and surviving in the current wave of fake arts phenomenon.

>> No.6102941

>>6102932
thats because demand has increased massively with online shopping

>> No.6102945

This is literally gonna affect a tiny portion of artists.
The companies that use stock art and photos will just use ai instead.
All of the jobs you imagine will be replaced by AI art were already replaced by photography first and then the internet.
Artists were already filtered down to highly custom commission and studio work. Art is ALREADY a niche job. Art is ALREADY considered a joke career that is high risk and only the top X% can make money with it.

It's like telling a custom furniture guy that hes about to be out of a job because we can get AI to design furniture now as well as physically carve and assemble it. He won't give a shit, his industry already died and he is a niche within a niche selling to people who value human craft.

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>>6102772
Won't stop me from drawing but the past years have been a real test for the human soul and I can't help but feel all of this has been somehow orchestrated to crush it and push tech down our throats more and more: from the fall of gallery art and replacing it with splatters of paint and taped bananas on the walls, to the normies getting impressed by an AI generating shit images of Putin eating said banana and reducing modern philosophy to a bunch of bumbling fools and muh matrix, it's all an enormous attack on the human aesthetics which will leave in it's wake only people interested solely in petty things like big paychecks and the next the iphone who will live with 3 appointments per week to the therapist and cocked up on dozens of pills just to cope with the fakeness of it all. Drugs are everywhere and their usage is only increasing, in my country procuring weed, heroine, cocaine and other devilish substances is as easy as buying candy, and most of the youth is doing it because there's no more depth to the human life, nothing to look forward to, just snort that line of speed and forget about it all. Poetry got replaced by tik tok videos and art by technological abominations.

I'm just spewing platitudes and idealistic shit, the fact of the matter is I won't stop drawing cause I love it too much fuck you.

>> No.6102947

>>6102928
>>all AI has to do is be used and generate
>>Generate


YOU WILL OVERPAINT THE GENERATED

YOU WILL OBEY THE AI

YOU WILL DRAW NOTHING

AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

>> No.6102951

>>6102947
YOU WILL MISUNDERSTAND PHENOMENON
YOU WILL GIVE ME PRESTIGE
YOU WILL PRAISE ME

>> No.6102952

>>6102932
Zoom out. Those soulless warehouse jobs replaced millions of retail jobs. The wealth transfer already went to amazon. This expansion is minuscule in comparison to the jobs it destroyed and its obviously temporary as amazon is obsessed with automation.

>> No.6102954

>>6102947
This AI shit makes me feel so lucky for being around right before it.
Just being able to draw us going to become a fucking LEGENDARILY RARE skill.
Having a sketchbook out and being able to actually draw someone will make you a fucking magical alchemist practicing crafts lost to new generations.

Feels fucking good man. Never going to stop practicing traditional.

>> No.6102957

>>6102939
> going well and surviving in the current wave of fake arts phenomenon
This shit hasn't even started, AI is going to provide all the ugly art anyone could ever want.

>> No.6102961

>>6102954
>Just being able to draw us going to become a fucking LEGENDARILY RARE skill.
>Having a sketchbook out and being able to actually draw someone will make you a fucking magical alchemist practicing crafts lost to new generations.
What stage is this? Bargaining?

>> No.6102962

>>6102954
>downloads vilppu abilities to my brain using Elon Musk’s BCI
>impress the ladies at the park with my sketchbook
You were saying?

>> No.6102967

>>6102962
Augs are no better then AI.

>> No.6102970

>>6102954
>> being able to actually draw someone will make you a fucking magical alchemist practicing crafts lost to new generations.

The more i learn about art, the more difficult i find it to be. So yeah, you can say it is like an alchemy. Very hard to learn and comprehend it fully.

>> No.6102971

>>6102961
Standard observation of other crafts seemingly replaced by automation or digital that then become niche skills in demand by rich people craving luxury goods that poor people cannot have.

>>6102962
If we get matrix downloading of skills then who the fuck cares about anything anymore, we have ascended.

>> No.6102977

>>6102932
digital animation didn't disrupt the western traditional animation industry for 50 years, it's really just a matter of time

>> No.6102978

>>6102977
Every animation types still have human behind them. AI shits without human will just giving out some nonsense blobs.

>> No.6102983

>>6102978
It took the job away from some people as the tech allowed automation or faster completion time

>> No.6102984

>>6102978
>AI will always have shit taste because it is trained by scientists and normies

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>> No.6102995

>>6102772
was waiting for a general to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEagM5KRztg
Anthony take on art AI

>> No.6102996

>>6102978
Anon, you need to understand people aren't worried from when everything gets automated, because at that time everything will be pretty good, the problem are the jobs that will get cuts and put people out of work before everything gets sorted out on what to do with the ever so increasing unemployed people

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>> No.6103000

>>6102995
He is rich and living in a third world country with a fucking big farm, he doesn't care at all about losing his freelance works

>> No.6103001

>>6102995
He scammed a bunch of people then went to party in Europe with all his kickstarter money. He's a piece of shit

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>> No.6103003

>>6102996
The thing is, the people gonna get fucked the most are industry artists, with their photorealistic artstyle of theirs. I am not them, so i don't give a shit if they gonna get fucked by some robot. I have my own imperfect artstyle, imperfect skills, working for my own followers and no robots gonna bother to copy it.

>> No.6103004

>>6103003
Cool story

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>> No.6103009

>>6102962
>Elon Musk’s BCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzdXE-QmBKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pz70EobIc8

>> No.6103010

Remember when ai was supposed to replace truckers, cashiers, etc and it never happened

>> No.6103012

>>6103010
It was predicted to happen by around 2026, it's a bit premature to say it never happened

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>> No.6103014

>>6103010
Yeah, it was supposed to happen in the future once the technology becomes cheap and reliable for mass production and function. Are you from the future?

>> No.6103017

>>6103014
AI truckers and drivers might be cool idea if they can detect human and prevent accidents.

>> No.6103018

>>6103014
>>6103012
This reminds me of those guys who say China is about to collapse since like the 90s

>> No.6103019

>>6103010
Yeah stores instead replaced cashiers with the customers doing the joib for themselves.

>> No.6103020

>>6103012
Like climate change and flying cars

>> No.6103021

>>6103018
Their average citizens sure love to work in sweatshops

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>>6103021

>> No.6103036

>>6103031
>china never lied about the outbreak
>nor did the US or any other country

>> No.6103038

>>6103036
Sure thing bot.

>> No.6103039

>>6103031
Damn, look how much China indirectly killed americans, we should go to war for revenge

>> No.6103040

>>6102785 #
Yep, Nintendo will KO this for sure, at least in Japan.
And knowing our JP friends, they'll be ok with it (it doesn't benefit anyone not even artists) and anime AI will be an amateur western and korean/chinese thing only

>> No.6103047

>>6103040
>it doesn't benefit anyone
It benefits people who like art

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Why can chuds accept AI will take over soon?
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED. TRUST THE SCIENCE.
Accept a salary reduction, you don't want to be out of a job, right? Better work harder and charge less!
Drawing? AI will do that for you, don't develop your artistic side! Just consume and work! Just watch this movie, just buy this funko, sell your house, take the vaccine.

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>>6103049
>work
kek

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>> No.6103061

>>6102790
>why the horse has not been replaced by the automobile in an entire decade+
t. old timer in 1908

>> No.6103066

>>6103061
No one in their right mind would go on the trouble of buying gas when horse food grow from the ground, fucking stupid people and their useless fancy metal thingies

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how long do you think it will take for art schizos to start shooting up tech offices

>> No.6103069

>>6103068
On the fifth big company that mass fire artists

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>> No.6103078

>>6103068
oh no, what a terrible suggestion, I hope no one starts doing that sort of thing, that would be terrible anon, I hope no one does that. oh no.

>> No.6103081

>>6103068
they wouldnt pass the entrance companies care more about employees than the state over child life

>> No.6103082

>>6103061
>all technology is the same
This is why you get tricked by covid myths and vaccines you are literally too retarded to be alive

>> No.6103085

>>6103082
In that they tend to make life better by allowing less effort from us? For that specific example, yes

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All I think when I see this art is "which photos and original art did they photobash to generate this".

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>> No.6103108

>>6102820
Just look at the dalle2 redd*t or look it up on twitter... Just filter past all the onions star wars muppet shit

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>> No.6103114

>>6103101
Kinda cute. Maybe one of you meatpuppets can take your human spin on her.

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>> No.6103140

>>6103068
for the first time in my life, I wish i was an American

>> No.6103141

>Someone posts AI art
>"I made this"
cant wake up

>> No.6103146

>>6103141
>my parameters, AI just a tool, I MADE THIS
watch this shit happen and overtime people believe this

>> No.6103148

>>6103141
>>6103146
>https://old.reddit.com/r/ArtistLounge/comments/uhba5v/being_an_ai_artist_the_struggle_is_real/

>> No.6103155

>>6103148
kek, that's the exact post I was looking at when I realized how hard I was seething over this concept. 10 years of living on the verge of suicide to gain this skillset and just as my life was falling into place i have to hear about the struggles of putting the right words into a machine. I fear im so bitter ill never be able to enjoy looking at 2d again.

>> No.6103161

>>6103098
>>6103099

Which program is this and how many dragon dicks do I have to suck off to get access?

>> No.6103168

>>6103148
fucking sickening

>> No.6103169

>>6103155
>I fear im so bitter ill never be able to enjoy looking at 2d again.
Jesus fucking Christ my vision blurred as i read this. I can't draw and only just started ,but i feel the same way as I look at my favorite artist's pages and visualize how they'll stop drawing as every retarded 5 year old can now claim to be an "artist". It makes me sick and want to stop looking, but at the same time i wanna check to see the shit they post.

>> No.6103192

>be me
>was constantly miserable from trying to pursue stem shit
>between december 2021-february 2022 decided to pursue art as a career and dropped out of college to practice drawing
>happiest few months of my entire life
god fucking damnit, fuck techfags

>> No.6103193

>>6103192
gurl, production and tech is more important! who cares about human stuff... u can go back to stem even if u dont like it. theres so much to do.

>> No.6103196

>>6103192
Lol are you me anon? I dropped from an advanced engineering program at a tech school and applied to a visual design program instead in the same school instead, starting this fall kek
But im 31 so prob older than you, and with some 10ys working as an engineer, anyway good fucking luck my friend, keep drawing

>> No.6103198

You niggas HAVE to move to "high arts" pretend your shit has higher meaning that a machine can't grasp and do traditional.

>> No.6103201

>>6103193
/ic/ sisters...

>> No.6103209

>>6103198
The real solution is move into indie game dev, the final frontier of creative expression. By the time they fully automate music, writing, coding, art, 3d, and game design then learn to put it all together im hoping society will allow me to live off gibs.

>> No.6103212

>>6103198
I don't even understand a digital artist who doesnt do traditional art as well. It's the same fucking skills with a small amount of adjustment and you open up another revenue stream and something to transition into when you get sick of farming coomers or studio work or whatever bullshit digital art money revenue you are using.

>> No.6103222

>>6102995
>How dare you care about AI taking your jobs when ruskies are killing each other in the east a-and covid a-a-and monkeypox a-a-and my baby no milk to eat!! C-care about that not about your dreams and art literally getting killed once and forever.

T-thanks dude

>> No.6103225

>>6103209
Indie shit is where they most need to cut expenses due to tight budget, just look at the average art on them, it's all at most /int/ tier unless they become successful to upgrade their art overtime

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Ai dungeon have been out in the wild for some time, it does not seem to replace writers.

>> No.6103233

>>6103227
It's not supposed to write books

>> No.6103235

>>6103198
I was thinking something similar to this, what I was thinking is that artists now have to be like a rockstar. Imagine if whole lot of love by led zepplin or creep by radiohead where written by an ai, exact same song and sound but it was ai generated, would you like them as much? I seriously doubt it because it's not just about the sound of the song, it's that that is a genuine reflection of the songwritter, their personality and outlook of life. A major part of liking the song is that it is a communication between the musician and yourself, which you can't have between an ai. I think that artists now have to lean hard into that. We need to show a lot more of our process, make a big show that it really is all you and not machine assisted, no ai, no photbashing, no tracing, it's a direct connection with the artist. I think kjg is a good model, you see his process and it is like a performance, he relies heavily on visualization so when you look at his art it is like you are really getting to take a peek inside his head and he draws whatever the fuck he wants whether whether it's degenerate coomer shit or geeking out on car engines.

>> No.6103238

>>6103225
That's the point though, if you make your own game it's so complicated this AI shit is actually a useful tool. If you're a professional artist there's still significant knowledge transfer and you would have had to abandon the 2d workflow anyway.

>> No.6103242

>>6103225
indies aren't really the ones doing all the corner cutting shit though, all the soulless photobashing zbrush abuse shit comes from triple a

>> No.6103243

this whole uprising in ai has messed with my head and has put my mind in a permanent 'work as hard as you possibly fucking can to become the greatest or die trying' mode.
at this point dying seems more likely but whatever, fuck ai tards

>> No.6103244

>>6103242
Yeah, the devs are just not hire an artist and instead work on the art themselves

>> No.6103246

>>6103242
also daily reminder to hate shaddy saffadi https://youtu.be/CYbYvImd7Bw

>> No.6103251

>>6103243
Just remember. The AI need data to even fucking work. Make sure that it's your data you feed it.

>> No.6103254

>>6103243
you could become the greatest artist alive but how would that change anything? it's like trying to become the best human calculator, your best will never be enough.

>> No.6103257

>>6103227
GPT-4 and beyond will fuck writers even harder than DALLE will fuck artists

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Nice /nodraw/ general you got here

>> No.6103259

>>6103257
How much time do music, film, and gamefags have?

>> No.6103262

>>6103243
All I see is Dwight Schrute narrowly try and beat online shopping in sales during his 9 to 5, only for the online shopping to continue past those times and beat him in efficiency long run

>> No.6103264

>>6103251
>The AI need data to even fucking work.
reminder that when someone files a class action lawsuit against openai you sign up

>> No.6103269

>>6103258
No rules, just tools. Get mad manualdrawlet

>> No.6103272

>>6103264
>against openai
Google has an even better AI. It wont just be one tech company that has. Even if they chicken out and decide to scrap the projects, the technology and how it all works itself is already out the bag. Visual creativity has been demystified.

>> No.6103276

>>6103272
It was all just tricks used by artist to think they were born talented

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I found some anime made better than all of asg crew. this is yikes, gg it's all over

>> No.6103283

>>6103233
It is capable to write books, i've seen it can write news articles and shitposts but i did not see writers panic and instead using it as another tool, probably it will be the same with DALLE ai

>> No.6103284

>>6103272
if the suit succeeds it sets legal precedent to fuck any company who tries similar shit

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>>6102820
kek

>>6102772
I'm skeptical about anything AI. My ISP tried it with telemarketing, I had to talk to a human to solve the internet problem I was having. Every year is the year of self-driving cars, since 2010. I'm not saying this AI thing is not impressive, it is, but for the time being I'm skeptical, at best it will speed things up at studios and at worse it will replace everybody in the art departments. Doubt it, but I'll believe it when I see it. One thing I'm sure though is it will kill most stock image companies, these i think are fucked, and if these are fucked so are photographers.

>> No.6103287

Are ideas emerging and sorting themselves out really such a huge bummer for you? Are artists also pissed that they didn't get to be the ones to invent trees?

>> No.6103291

>>6103283
It's not supposed to write a book. It can but that's not what the devs are aiming for. DALLE devs are aiming for art and image creation, specifically. And since the average business people often has a need for artists to create art and image for their business

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>>6103115

>> No.6103299

>>6103287
you might want to ask yourself who is unwillingly providing the ideas and data?

>> No.6103300

Is there a way to telll what source images the AI is using to generate its own image? Even if the source images are by the millions.

>> No.6103304

>>6103300
probably not since the training image is might be gone once they convert it into an algorithm. Though the fact that they have safeguards against fully replicating a source image may mean there's some way of figuring it out.

>> No.6103308

>>6103300
It doesn't have a bunch of images that its just reassembling and smashing together. It LEARNS about objects, features, and concepts inside the images its trained on and is making completely new things. It's doing exactly what humans do. If you want to sue tech companies for this then you pretty much have to sue every artist in existence.

>> No.6103314

>>6103308
>is making completely new things
Yeah the same way someone can make CoMpLeTeLy new things by photobashing, tracing, filtering, layering and using 3D.

>> No.6103315

>>6103308
And that's how we killed art

>> No.6103316

>>6103308
>bugmen already pressing the idea that muh AI is literally just a human bro
can i ask you tech faggots what is your obsession with turning robots into humans and humans into robots?

>> No.6103317

>>6103314
Did the image the artist created exist before it was created

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>>6103317
Look I made unique art by your extremely intelligent criteria

>> No.6103324

>>6103316
I don't know but I can't wait for augmentations myself.

>> No.6103325

>>6103323
You did though, even the law would agree on technicality

>> No.6103327

>>6103324
augmentation is a euphemism for externalization, having an AI generate your very own 'thoughts' the way you are now able to generate art on your computer, losing even the integrity of your own mind. if you want to plug yourself into the matrix that's up to you, of course, but don't try to reframe it as some kind of self-improvement thing.

>> No.6103328

>>6103316
its just the evolution
humanity took it in its own hands when they started forming cities

>> No.6103329

>>6103308
It's being trained on copyright work and has style filters with the artists name, fuck off with this false equivalency.

>> No.6103330

>>6103327
Why shouldn't I? The machine will always be better then me but what If i merge with the machine and amplify my own presence? Make the machine into my image? If you wanna stop me then you'll need to augment yourself and humanity will be back to the same old social conflict.

>> No.6103333

>>6103329
You're not saying he is wrong, copyrighted or not the AI is learning about them

>> No.6103335

>>6103330
Why do you think the machine will amplify 'your presence', rather than completely hijacking your mind while letting you keep only the illusion of control?

>> No.6103348

>>6103333
my comment wasn't about how the ai learns it was about the claim that there's no reason to sue these companies. If they were trained on free use data then i wouldn't give a shit.

>> No.6103352

>>6103335
That shit won't happen If i'm a master of the technology in my body. trust me, I don't want to be Elons or the algorithms mind slave. The technology should be my bitch.

>> No.6103354

Just accept that the "great man" is a myth. The idea of authors and artists is a useful way of organizing works but it's not an accurate way of understanding how art evolves.

>> No.6103355

>>6103348
So you never took inspiration and subconsciously absorbed a copyrighted work into your brain and subconsciously adapted those works into your work. There is no law against learning from copyrighted work, be it for humans or man made tools

>> No.6103370

>>6103354
I am a great man tho

>> No.6103373

>>6103355
They took the actual file and incorporated it into their machine, they had to write safe guards against accidentally replicating the image, I also don't advertise as an artist I am not while all the advertising for this company is x art in the style of x artist.

It is obvious that this is completely against the spirit of copyright

>> No.6103377

>>6103354
just because you aren't a great man you can't imagine anyone being different. AI wouldn't have written the critique of pure reason based on philosophical texts that existed at the time, or platos dialogues in ancient greece, or stanislaw lem's fiction based on the other trashy scifi that exists. It only echos the same waterline of limited proficiency we feed into it back at us. If AI surpasses that limit it will be because it's become a kind of pseudo-subject.

>> No.6103378

>>6103373
Art style isn't copyrightable

>> No.6103382

>>6103373
Your argument basically comes down to:
>My brain does copy, but is a more sloppy copier than the machine!

>> No.6103400

>>6103377
You misunderstand me I think. I am not saying the AI is god and we are inferior. I am saying that "great men" and the ideas that flow out of them are a deterministic phenomena. Their work doesn't come from their "soul", but is a byproduct of insanely complex social organization and it is hard to see it this way just like a fish has no idea what water is. A machine that spits out visual variation piped into art scenes and institutions is going to create legendary works that we will have no "great man" to thank for.

>> No.6103407

You know what, if that means copyright laws will be more accessible to the average artist and people won't be allowed to repost someone else art on the internet and instead have to use AI for their own images then I'm all for it. I'm tired of having my art reposted and I not getting a single cent of algorithm weight for my page

>> No.6103408

>>6103378
I remember a big streamer brigading a smaller streamer because they copied their artstyle which was the most generic anime shit around, smaller streamer started crying, it was pretty funny

>> No.6103415

>>6103400
I'm pretty sure I get what you're saying, but tell me which part you disagree with. Human subjectivity is an illusion, and all historical developments can be explained extrinsically, as social, economic, material phenomena. Basically, historical materialism.

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here's an example of AI assisted art from a guy I follow

>> No.6103421

>>6103378
the images in their dataset are

>> No.6103427

I currently have 13 threads hidden. I will now make it 14.

>> No.6103431

>>6103421
You are allowed to have copyrighted images in a server or in your home

>> No.6103432

>>6103415
>Human subjectivity is an illusion
Free will is an illusion yes, but subjectivity no.
>and all historical developments can be explained extrinsically, as social, economic, material phenomena. Basically, historical materialism.
I guess but admittedly I am not that familiar with terms like "historical materialism". And I'm not a marxist.

>> No.6103433

>>6103427
At this point maybe mods should just delete /ic/.

>> No.6103437

>>6103382
If i sold a product that had a bunch of layers and in one of those layers was someone elses work i would get rightfully sued. They are selling a program and within that program is someones work.

>> No.6103438

>>6103421
Do you really think these devs didn't have a team of lawyers to see what they can or can't do, are you that retarded?

>> No.6103440

>>6103431
You are not allowed to charge money in exchange for data within that server

>> No.6103441

>>6103437
>If i sold a product that had a bunch of layers and in one of those layers was someone elses work
>i would get rightfully sued.
Wow I disagree. You're way too purist.

>> No.6103442

>>6103437
Wrong, this works similarly to torrent programs and game emulators

>> No.6103443

>>6103438
hahahahah. Just like Facebook has a team of lawyers to see what they can and can't do with your data right?

>> No.6103444

>>6103437
don't worry, once you're successful copyright ID will recognize any instance of your anthropomorphic mouse as belonging to you and you'll be able to demand tribute for it. though of course, since until you get to that point people will leech off your art with impunity, it might be a bit harder to get there.

>> No.6103445

>>6103438
The law doesn't fucking exist you idiot this is too new, they change their TOS every week because they have no idea what they are doing. It's already illegal to copyright AI generated work yet they claim to have one.

>> No.6103448

>>6103441
you can disagree all you want, you're wrong and the law agrees with me.

>> No.6103450

>>6103448
>you're wrong and the law agrees with me.
yay legalism

>> No.6103451

>>6103445
Exactly my point, these people aren't dumb to go on muddy law waters without lawyers to guide their boat, nonsense analogy but I don't care

>> No.6103456

>>6103442
Once you look at the source code you're in danger of breaking the law when making an emulator. Torrent clients have absolutely no links to the files they transfer, that's a retarded equivalency.

>> No.6103460

>>6103456
And the people using the AI has no access to the files in their data bank

>> No.6103462

>>6103451
what the fuck is even your point? that because they hired a bunch of lawyers they managed to pull new laws out their ass and suddenly that's reality?

>> No.6103463

>>6102900
me in the bottom right

(not the chad, the skeleton playing the mandolin)

>> No.6103467

>>6103460
people using a closed source emulator have no access to the source code, this has nothing to do with anything. if there's anything in there from the thing they are emulating they are open to getting fucked. Why do i have to argue with you idiots about this? Is this some form on contrarian defeatism?

>> No.6103468

>>6103460
>files in their data bank
So the comic books on your desk are good evidence of your art being theft as well.

>> No.6103469

>>6103462
That they aren't doing their shit without knowing first if it's even legal, they could easily screw the entire project if they were dumb to give the public direct access to the copyrighted work through a paywall

>> No.6103472

>>6103468
hes not selling his desk to people

>> No.6103474

>>6103467
The AI program doesn't have the copyrighted work right there to share to the public either

>> No.6103475

>>6103469
why cant you grasp that they have no idea whats legal because nobody does, they are praying nobody gives a shit and that they can cash out before people realize what is going on.

>> No.6103477

>>6103472
Does he erase the contents of the comic book after he is finished reading before he draws? He better so that he doesn't have an idea that is influenced by them.

>> No.6103479

>>6103475
There are laws for copyright work, they could very easily get screwed over by today's laws if they did things differently

>> No.6103481

>>6103474
I just explained why the public having or not having access to what is stolen isn't a safe zone. They aren't selling the art they are selling the service.

>> No.6103486

>>6103477
kek, you're losing the plot now, try again.

>> No.6103488

>>6103481
Did you? Because right now, as long as you have a program that is not breaking current laws you're pretty safe as a developer

>> No.6103492

>>6103479
look your argument is just
>b-b-but they are so smart they must know better than me
im not interested in discussing this with someone who has no opinion or brain of their own

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>>6102772
I put in the name of my comic and my artist name and it gave me a bunch of Loli and shota twins. This isn't what my drawings look like but I do like them.

>> No.6103495

>>6102946
>I can't help but feel all of this has been somehow orchestrated to crush it and push tech down our throats more and more
Well put anon. Add to that the world economic forum talking about how receptive people have become to experimental vaccines and what great chances lie in transhumanist research

whatever dude, let's keep drawing

>> No.6103496

>>6103492
Uh what? They got lawyers to not get screwed over by literally millions of artists and companies and they know they can get a devastating lawsuit at any slight slip

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>>6103141
>>6103146
It's over fellas. This is what you get when you combine the rotten fruits of technocracy handed to participation trophies awardees
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Art/comments/v5atou/a_portrait_of_a_knitted_avocado_me_dalle2_2022/ib92dr4

>> No.6103500

>>6103488
you cant sell shit that contains copyright work, its not complicated. You can claim you put that work behind a cipher and that suddenly makes it legal but that's obviously a weak stance to take.

>> No.6103501

>>6103486
You said that because the AI is trained by other people's art that means it is illegal. But human works are products of the same thing. Humans learning and building from what they saw past humans do. Every work you look at is you expanding your "database". The only thing that makes what the machine is doing seem more dirty is that it is doing it with greater efficiency.

>> No.6103503

>>6103500
The AI does not contain any copyrighted work that is being shared or sold to the public

>> No.6103509

>>6103501
your analogy would only be relevant if i was selling my brain to people and if my brain had a physical piece of art stuck in one of my brain folds.

>> No.6103512

>>6103503
their data set and their code is private, you don't know what is or is not in their program. Turning a piece of art into code is not a protection, it already exists as code on the source website.

>> No.6103521

>>6103512
Turning a piece of art into code then would be considered derivative work and still be completely legal. And even if I don't know what is in their data set, as long as they don't share or sell the copyrighted works in them they are completely fine too if the works in there were acquired legitimately

>> No.6103524

>>6103521
>if the works in there were acquired legitimately
there we go, you finally admit that they are operating illegally. No request was made before they scrubbed artstation and indexed a bunch of famous artists work.

>> No.6103528

>>6103524
It's not a crime to download images and videos on the internet

>> No.6103531

>>6103528
it is a crime to sell them, even if they are hidden within the thing you sold, stop repeating the same retarded argument

>> No.6103535

>>6103531
They aren't selling the copyrighted works, the AI is the one using them, not you, me or your mom

>> No.6103537

>>6103535
Im only going to explain this one more time because you're too slow and my patience has run out. They aren't selling works of art, they are selling the AI, the AI is the product.

>> No.6103541

>>6103537
And what is unlawful with that?

>> No.6103542

>>6103537
Can a human who has been influenced by other peoples work sell their artistic services?

>> No.6103543

>>6103541
>>6103531

>> No.6103545

>>6103541
NTA but laws are the wrong way to discuss this because its so new.
The morality is clearly fucked up. Laws can be made to catch up.

>> No.6103546

>>6103543
Then OneDrive is breaking the law too because it has illegal stuff there. The devs aren't selling the copyrighted

>> No.6103547

>>6103542
yeah and an AI could probably, legally sell its art at a gallery regardless of whats in the dataset. that's not what is happening here.

>> No.6103555

>>6103546
god just stop with these retarded arguments, you're wasting my time. One drive is not selling a service that runs on copyright material, the service itself has nothing to do with the files it hosts, just like a torrent client.

>> No.6103560

>>6103547
Hypothetically if they trained the AI only on art made by hired artist to make parody drawings of IPs, and the AI never saw what an actual licensed image of Mickey Mouse looks like, BUT, is still able to produce images of "Mickey" through very specific prompt engineering tricks, and will eventually learn what Mickey Mouse is through human end-users. Would this be legal?

>> No.6103564

>>6103555
So the AI is still legal as long as the devs don't sell or share the copyrighted materials

>> No.6103575

>>6103560
Disney owns the likeness to its characters and so even fan art which depicts him in a recognizable manner is illegal to sell. I think these AI companies will eventually have to scrub well know IP from its dataset or they are getting fucked.

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>> No.6103584

>>6103564
They just have to stop stealing peoples art and incorporating it into their program, they wont want to stop because their machine would paint like a 100 year old artist or a shitty clip art folder.

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>>6103575
So AI trained on images of "Mickey Bear" that would allow me to type a prompt like "Mickey Bear except a mouse" would still be a no-no?

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>>6102772
>theres so many Asian gene threads
>theres so many neuroplasticity threads
>theres so many ligameme threads
>theres so many talent threads
You are here
>"Theres so many AI threads"
when will you realize that its only 1-2 shizo anons that stay on /ic/ all day, spam all these threads, instantly reply, for the futile attempt at demoralizing everyone?

>> No.6103593

>>6103584
They aren't stealing art

>> No.6103595

>>6103588
I'm sure some Chinese lawyers will happily fight that case for you

>> No.6103598

So what kind of art trend will AIs presence give rise too? Will we grow more appreciation for doodles or maybe in the opposite direction where highly detailed works are appreciated more.

>> No.6103602

>>6103598
Trad art, robots still expensive to make

>> No.6103607

>>6103589
atleast this is atleast a somewhat feasible happening.

>> No.6103620

>>6103593
If i had more money and could verify they indexed my art I would sue them personally, it's basically guaranteed money in an EU court. People like simon stalenhag have a good case.

>> No.6103622

>>6103620
Sue for?

>> No.6103627

What is better, making a hard cut right now or trying to stay relevant as long as possible?
Art was the last thing in my life that gave me hope. I‘m literally crying right now like a pussy, not even kidding.
I hope someone will make those bastards pay for it.

>> No.6103631

on one hand this shit might destroy art and makes me want to stop learning to draw. On the other hand the impact might not be that severe and i might regret quitting later on. Plus I've got nothing else to do since everything will be automated anyway so i might as well continue. I wish i was born 20 years earlier

>> No.6103636

>>6103622
stealing and selling access to copyrighted art, if that woman won a suit against capcom for selling altered photos without permission this is an easy win, it's also very easy to argue that it damages a persons career.

>> No.6103641

>>6103627
If you're making decent money just ride it out for a couple years while preparing another skillset. If you're still studying i would shift immediately

>> No.6103644

>>6103622
He could attempt to set a legal precedent or at least bring it to attention in EU. A lot of the defences or precedence's try to treat the AI as if they were another artist or a normal piece of software but new technology doing new things requires new definitions and laws.

>> No.6103645

>>6103641
which will also be automated

>> No.6103648

>>6103627
>>6103631
You guys shouldn't give up because an AI can draw. The AI wouldn't even be possible if it didn't have the entire history of art and the internet to train off of. If an AI feeds its own art to itself I'd imagine that eventually it would start to degrade from all the mistakes it makes. It needs human art to be there as an example.

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>>6103607
>a-atleast this one i-is somewhat believable r-right?! (im running out of FUD!)
No.

>> No.6103651

>>6103645
everything is getting automated in the next 50-100 years, the point is to be in the latter half so society changes before you're out of work. Art has less than a decade left, its not going to last long enough.

>> No.6103653

>>6103648
and how are those humans supposed to support themselves? I still enjoy drawing, but I haven't been treating it as a serious career option for maybe 2 years, when it became clear AI was bridging the gap for real.

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6103654

Find the one that does hands right and fix it up a little. You have now have ascended beyond to what is known as a super tracer.

>>6103627
Helping AI make better art.

>> No.6103655

>>6103648
>If an AI feeds its own art to itself I'd imagine that eventually it would start to degrade from all the mistakes it makes.
I think that's wrong. Those little "mistakes"/mutations are what will make it more original. And only its greatest hits will get fed back into it.

>> No.6103659

>>6103648
oh I'm not gonna give up, there's really nothing else for me to do as I've started getting bored of video games. Worst case scenario i will just become a fully trad artist if it starts going to hell. It's just a shame because digital is cool with all the tools you have and i love screen tablets

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>>6103648
>>6103651
meanwhile 3d printing has been a thing and hasn't even scratched the figure market
>>6103627
>giving up because someone is literally memeposting about AI because they have nothing better to do
Not sure if srs
>I‘m literally crying right now like a pussy
nvm 4/10 bait

>> No.6103663

>>6103636
For stealing you would lose immediately, as for selling the access to copyrighted art that depends on how you licensed your published work and on the technicality of if they are selling the access to the art or not. Good luck winning any of that when they are backed by some huge corporations

>> No.6103665

>>6103589
It's like we have our own version of Hitler that got rejected and shit on by /ic/ and now his version of the holocaust is demoralising /beg/s on /ic/ into quitting.

>> No.6103668

>>6103651
i don't work in art now, i work in accounting. No, ai faggots have not automated my job and they never will, because my position is way too analitical

>> No.6103670

>>6103661
3d printing requires specific hardware locally for every group/company that is going to use them. Images can be easily transferred and printed

>> No.6103671

>>6103659
definitely, I can't imagine going back to vapid, passive consumerism. wouldn't want to do just trad, though - maybe I'll start making more oc reaction images for shitposting purposes.

>> No.6103673

>>6103644
If an artist manages to set this precedent they would probably buy the entertainment industry pros another few decades of work. the AI programs need to steal that work to produce contemporary, marketable art, if their data sets were restricted they would have to hire specific artists or buy work in limited amounts and slowly build intelligence over time.

>> No.6103677

Bump limit in a single day on /ic/. We can't keep winning it AIChads

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>>6103670
There are 150 3d printers I can buy on amazon that can pump out figures. What the actual fuck are you on about

>> No.6103680

>>6103627
I seriously wish I could meet up with some of you faggots in real life, so I could slap some sense into you. You seriously need to go outside and touch grass if you unironically think some robot being able to make stock images is going to replace you, or prevent you from drawing.

Seriously JUST DRAW, a bot cannot take that away from you.

>> No.6103683

>>6103680
they can take away your career and earning potential, that is what is being discussed.

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>>6103670
There are 200$ 3d printers I can buy on amazon that can pump out figures. What the actual fuck are you on about

>> No.6103685

>>6103679
We ain't talking about weeb figures, we are talking about building houses, bridges, buildings and shit that an extraordinary amount of resources and time

>> No.6103689

>>6102865
There's still 0 proof of concept for it to work on porn tho
EVERYTHING that is shown is 1 character barely on a "standing pose"
Something simple like a person crounching or any angle that isn't slightly full frontal is impossible for what I've seen

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>>6103685
>we aint talking about weeb figures
yes we are nigger?
>>6103661
hasn't even scratched the figure market
>the figure market
>figure
youre the schizo AI anon that starts all these threads

>> No.6103692

>>6103668
>https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/accountants-and-auditors
>Mark says
>Over the last 5 years, we already laid off most of our accountants. Turns out, with the improved software we've been getting, we only need a few senior accountants to monitor most of our finances instead of having entire teams performing less-than-optimal analysis. Tough luck. Not only do they have shit jobs (I WAS an accountant, myself) but they may not have a future in the practice.
>I'm not saying private accountants will be replaced entirely but there's simply no need to hire tons of them when a few can do the job just as well. Can't say the same about public though. They may still provide some use.
Looks like you're coping /pol/ style.

>> No.6103695

>>6102957
Not a fat chance they'll get to you if even people now can't get to you
"Draw a girl in Xbliblinkfy style" is safe
sakimichan will be the first to fall

>> No.6103696

I could make tattoos. You will have to copy AI crap on to peoples skin, so it will be zero creativity in it, but at least it will bring you some money.
>>6103661
It‘s not, never felt so depressed in my life like now.

>> No.6103698

>>6103689
That's the only thing keeping me from going away from art, and if pornhub decides to hire some of the devs from DALLE to work on the porn version I'll go back to cunny territory, I dare them enter my turf. I FUCKING DARE YOU DEV FUCKERS GO KYS

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>>6103696
>never felt so depressed in my life like now.
not counting the ligameme, asian genes, talent, neuroplasticity, depression periods right

anyways im out

>> No.6103707

>>6103416
What ai does he use

>> No.6103716

>>6103692
And yet I work in a big company in accounting, there's no way to replace my position due to customer communication and having to correct fuckups caused by automation, and the best part is that the platform we're using has changed lately, and I'm currently being trained on it. Does that sound like I'm about to be replaced soon faglord? The fuckups that can happen due to ai error combined with customer error (sending money to the wrong company etc.) are so plentiful and varied, that it makes it so that my position cannot be replaced with anything other than scifi general AI with analytical human logic

>> No.6103726

>>6103701
No, this is different. I know it. Just look at the results. Unedited pictures are trending on AS. It is still in closed alpha, but it moggs already the buttom 15% of us.
It is a rat race against a fucking supercomputer.

>> No.6103730

>>6103716
>at the whims of a big company
>so far
OH NO NO NO NO PFFFFT
>Does that sound like I'm about to be replaced soon faglord?
Yeah you sound like an overconfident princess that's about to get the rug pulled out from under them. Also faglord? Is that how you kids these days address your customers?

>> No.6103736

>>6103730
keep slaving away in your attempt to automate everything, STEMcancer. I've been told over 10 years ago that accounting is dead and here we are. Believe me, you cannot automate what i do :). I'm not some bookkeeping boomer

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>>6103707
dall e mini

>> No.6103740

>>6103738
Dall E mini = Soul
Dall E 2 = Soulless

>> No.6103742

>>6103696
would tattooing be that hard to automate? crossing a tattoo gun with a printer?

>> No.6103765

>>6103736
That's one of the greatest cliche lines that keep getting uttered with everything
>HAHA IT CAN'T BE DONE IMPOSSIBLE THE STATUS-QUO IS FINE IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AIRPLANES ARE JUST TOYS TRANNIES WILL NEVE...... *housing market collapses on your head*
We know how this going to end. A fucking accountant thinks he's invincible. My sides.

>> No.6103780

>>6103765
>housing market collapses on your head
i also own a house and will inherit a plot of land
>A fucking accountant thinks he's invincible
? My position is, yes. Unless you are dumb enough to believe in AGI

>> No.6103782

>>6103742
It‘s impossible. Some idiots have tryed it in the past.
It‘s hard to explain to a non tattoer, but there is no way.

>> No.6103784

>>6103782
Never say never. Even coders should sweat a bit.

>> No.6103788

>>6103782
tattooing should be extremely easy to automatize, cnc machines etc. already translate vectors into cuts/prints/drawings whatever you want. The problem is liability and cost more than anything which might be a thing that kills DALL E 2 too. They already have to neuter it to get rid of any political figures, anything violent and or mature and who knows what kind of laws nations will demand of it if it truly does gain traction and is feasible to get access to for consumers(a dall e 2 subscription might be more expensive than just buying your furry porn commissions normally)

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>>6103661
you know the whole "Living in a Pod" thing? its not exactly sci-fi anymore. they are actually planning on building houses out of actual 3D printing machines now, only the printing is done inside massive warehouses.

The amount of Silicon retards ITT being intentionally disingenious about what AI is already doing to humanity is absolutely sickening. It wouldn't surprise me of most of you fuckers are from India or BestChina.

>> No.6103791

>>6103789
to be honest If you gave me the choice between a 500 usd/month 1 room apartment and a 10k usd 3d printed apartment container block I'd choose the apartment container basically any time.

>> No.6103796

>>6103791
the point here anon, is that the technology to fix a broken apartment is there. this kind of stuff is just going to make cities even more congested than they need to be, and strip you of the opportunity of having an actual home in the future. why? because its just easier to print a 3D apartment block, make the money, and call it a day. its just slapping a band-aid on an axe wound and still wondering why the person is still unhappy.

>> No.6103799

>>6103780
>i also own a house and will inherit a plot of land
Damn you missed the point like so many on this site do when it's not done dryly and explicitly like you're talking to someone autistic. communicate everything. Are you sure you're an artist? You even reverted back to an ESL format. Wait never mind this a bot no need to engage further,

>> No.6103801

>>6103696
>going from drawing art to drawing graffiti crap on people's skin
Yeah that is depressing. More like you're branding people for AI to kill later for being dumb enough to get one.

>> No.6103807

I think this thread hit the bump limit, testing

>> No.6103811

>>6102772
I'm the anon who made the post complaining about needing this general. thank you for making it

>> No.6103812

>>6103807
when the post count is italicized that indicates bump limit reached

>> No.6103815

>>6103796
well first of all I never really cared for having an "actual home" and if I needed more space I'd buy two 3d printed bugman apartment containers for 20k instead of a prim and proper 2 small house for say 25k, I don't give a single fuck. If my consumer choices are not as popular then "real homes" will persist as long as there is a market for it. If my way is more popular then the future 3d printed commieblocks shall rise.
Also I've been living near a small city for the entirety of my life and have never considered moving, and if costs raise as you say then the wages in big cities will rise aswell or else they will loose their workforce to the small cities. The only reason to move to a big city is a better wage to living cost proportion after all.
Also consider work from home becoming seriously popular in the last years which intrinsically favors those with the lowest living cost.

>> No.6103816

>>6103812
thanks, heres the new thread >>6103813

>> No.6103824

>>6103816
wait for a high pagecount before posting a new thread on slow boards, 8 is the usual for /ic/ generals

>> No.6103826

>>6103815
>well first of all I never really cared for having an "actual home"

bugman detected. move to Asia or India if you want to live like this and leave the rest of humanity out of it.

>> No.6104321

>>6103001
isn't that robaatoart?

>> No.6104520

>>6103716
There are bots able to auto correct themselves and able to communicate

>> No.6105630

>>6102995
who?

>> No.6105661

>>6103222
>>6103000
i get what hes saying, about not having enough resources to even use the thing since it needs a gpu with 20gig minium but all that means it will get gate kept by companies and rich fags and even then hes hoping he can make money off it if it uses his style so it still doesn't look to good if the development doesn't plateau.

>> No.6105678

>>6103689
i think what they'll do in a much later version is have 3d figures that you can pose before sending the prompt.
>>6103698
i want to figure out how they'll stop people from using it to make cp if it becomes available for download.