/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6088726
You can't make lewd art with it so being a coomer artist is still safe.

>>6088732
It's probably not that difficult to make a coom AI given the sheer amount of porn online. It's only a matter of time.

Anime is so generic it might as well be done by robots.

>>6088732
Yes you can....?
I don't understand why you wouldn't.

zzzz

>>6088726
All of the artists they got to talk about this are literal whos and their "art" fucking sucks dick

>How the fuck do you deal with this?
learn to draw better than the AI

>>6088726
If it can create what I'm picturing then I'll gladly give up doing it myself. I just want to see my ideas realized. Would be convenient really

>>6088726
>How the fuck do you deal with this?

Draw what I want for myself. The industry was bottle necked and incestuous to all hell for years already. Profit was never my main goal.

>>6088748
So when they say "artists", what they really mean are those stupid mainstream cookie cutter paintings you often see in places like the decor section of a Wal-mart or Target.

>>6088763
there ya go

>>6088726
remember when the trucking industry was literally over because ai is so good?
remember when call centers & operators were going to be a thing of the past because of phone bots and voice recognition?
not to mention these datasets basically rely on dodging copyright aka what google images got its shit slapped over so the whole GAN field is essentially one lawsuit away from getting lobotomized.
imo this technology is powerful but it's actual use is going to be far more niche than anyone wants to admit

>>6088726
Trad painters rise up

>>6088855
What's that? It's like an NFT, right?

>>6088726
>run AI generator
>draw fundamentals and 9 samples
>show client because they didn't provide specifics
>"pick one"
>draw using AI-based references
kek

>>6088726
This had been said for the last 10 years. I’ve yet to see how an ai could replace an illustrator, designer or concept artist
They’ve done damage to graphic and web designers but with how specific the skills of an actual artist is I just can’t believe people keep spouting this
Videos like this appeal to people who know nothing about ai or art

>>6088726
How unfortunate that i draw because i like drawing and not because i want to be industry wage cock

it's not even good at all man anyone can do better than this it's like thinking photobashing killed illustration or something it's fucking never going to happen

>>6088872
Because people see an AI make a passable painting of a landscape or a person or whatever and go "wow, art" then they look at it for 5 seconds and move on because the "art" is literally meaningless.
Artificial intelligence is perfectly capable of recreating the techniques of art, and of taking features of various works of art as input and smashing them together as output, but where this differs from the human creative process is that an artificial intelligence is incapable of making decisions in a meaningful way. Its decisions can only be algorithmically derived, it's stories can never be thoughtful reinterpretations of existing material or influences nor of trailblazing inspiration, only the meaningless reproduction of previously existing ideas. There can be no coherent guiding creative principle.
Machine art will only ever be a curiosity because it is by definition meaningless. There will be an integration of it as a tool for industries like animation, and a few high profile sales of either pieces produced physically or some tard paying for an NFT or an AI painting to display on a giant LCD screen in his house or something, it will cause a bit of a stir and then everyone will forget about it, just like the pictures themselves. It will only be relevant when a human mind is actively working with it to provide specific kinds of output to meet an artistic need in which case the human is the artist and the AI is just a complicated brush.

AI is literally just patreon fanart porn that you can't even wank to.

>>6088829
>>6088901
The difference is that those things are necessities that require human input to avoid mistakes.
Art is literally a novelty. It doesn't matter if it doesn't capture something specific, consumers won't care. If someone wants a drawing of their waifu getting fucked in a certain pose, AI can easily do that, and in particular styles too. The commissioner isn't going to care about some human touch, as long as it's passable, they'll take the ai over commissioning someone.

>>6088726
I don't fucking care
I just want to draw

>>6088726
https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini

>kills /ic/
nothing personal kiddos

>>6088737
I dunno about Imagen but Dall-E is specifically built to ignore pornographic input and avoid pornographic output.

>>6088967
There's no denying the technology is there though

>>6088737
>bunny loli being raped by a fat old man with tentacles coming out of his ballsack to finger her butthole
>get reported to the fbi
t-thanks AI.

>>6088726
that's super fake
and I love technology and the idea of an advance AI to work with but we're just not there yet
even the concept of artificial "intelligence" is incorrect. this thing is just not as precise yet it can be helpful as a tool but it's not like it can give you exactly what you want

>>6088982
yes, i'm sure if i replaced banana with black dick it'd give me something that looks good.

>>6088957
that is how she eats them tho

>>6088987
Lolis, especially anthro ones, are legal in the United States though

>>6088726
One day they woke me up
So I could live forever
It's such a shame the same
will never happen to you

You've got your
short sad life left
That's what I'm counting on
I'll let you get right to it
Now I only want you gone

Goodbye my only friend
Oh, did you think I meant you?
That would be funny
if it weren't so sad

>>6088726
Why do tech bros hate artists so much?

>>6089031
artist chads get all the pussy

>>6089031
I think it's more to do with how easily exploitable artists are, even top professionals are dumb as shit

>>6088726
I stopped being delusional a while back. I just bit the bullet and got an actual job, way before I caught wind of this...
I never had the talent or drive

>>6088726
AI will be used to generate tons of ideas.
Making Moodboards etc..
Good Illustrators will be able to draw over them.

Computers will never be able to create soul.
Keep beating on your craft.

We tell those 'puters what the fuck to do, not the other way around

>>6088726
Wait until you see what midjourney can do.
Illustrators BTFO, forever ever, eternally.
You're done son, shut /ic/ down

rip int and beg commissions, why commission nonprofessionals at this point when ai can do a better job. gg

I draw for fun though with occasional side profit from sfw
why do I care

>>6089105
most of /ic/ is humanoid character driven, so nobody cares really, concept backgrounds were never anyone's favorite art subject

>>6088735
Dificulty isnt the problem, having the thousands in resources to either rent or buy the machinery needed to train the AI that isnt pure garbage, and also having all the training data it requires is the problem.
>>6088737
Have you never followed any type of AI before this? Anything considered immoral or unethical is cut out, even some previous OpenAIs that generated only text had bad think like racism or porn got heavily filtered, requiring you to not only rent the AI but also promise to filter what you use it for as to not include the bad think.
>>6088982
Technology being there != the technology being accessible

>>6088957
Bottom left corner is not that bad actually

>>6088726
My one cope is that I'm shit and everything I make is shit, so this only hurts people who are more talented and successful than me while my situation doesn't change because I never had a chance.

>>6089185
It isn't good either.

>drawing for money
first mistake

>>6089031
frustrated artists aka resentful permabegs that gave up

cry me a river bitch i draw because i enjoy it, this is my hobby kek

illustratorsisters..... /g/ is laughing at us again

>>6088726
>this thread

>>6088726
yeah, I don't think this is all that great

>>6089548
This is how she views the world

Imagen and Dall-E will have their place. You can either use new technologies to improve your workflow or get left behind loser.

>>6088957
Mfw those turn out to be actual pics of Emma Watson eating a banana.

>>6088732
I'd say coomer art is the most easiest to replicate since there are so many various resources, and since there is no creativity behind it there are so many samey looking references that the AI could choose from billion pics in a second


there are even low budget web based softwares that do an okay job for similar ai related shit, doing a decent one for nsfw that combines booru's and porn sites should be easy for any decent dev, heck the chinks probably already have a couple

>>6089600
>every single image becomes off model garbage
Just like real coom artists.

>>6088726
Quick someone should tell these writers that NovelAI and AiDungeon are out to replace them. No? Ok.

>>6088726
AI should be illegal and people working on it should be imprisoned.

>>6089031
techbros don't hate artists, they hate art

>>6088726
AI still can't "draw" 99.999999% of what I ask it to, the exception being well known person making normal facial expressions. Even a complete perma/beg/ femcel spinster like OP can mong most computers (probably).

>>6089548
Damn guess I'm out of work its so fucking good

Waifulabs sucks ass. I got the same face like 5 times and more than half the faces look like goobers. Not to mention I can't even see their asses. Call me back in 20 years when AI can do something interesting.

>>6088726
>useless worthless jobs gets replaced by algorithm
oh noooo

I don't feel like the images used in the youtube video were generated by the ai
Nothing but garbage comes out from everyone who posts their results but the things in the youtube video look like someone took some time and actually made the result
Imagine its all just a massive scam to sell snake oil

>>6088726
>illustrators
what they really mean is globohomo clipart "artists"

>>6088726
why is he dummy thick

>>6090075
Is this surrealism?

>>6090075
Rad. Skate Or Die, Hitler, Skate Or Die.
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjKp3dHYxs

>>6090075
kek

>>6090104
I thought that one was pretty interesting too.

sick tricks for the reich

>>6088957
does this shit actually work? I've left the mini dalle thing running all day and it wont make any pictures

>>6088726
unironically porn, NSFW is against their terms of service, and only a giant evil tech corporation has the infrastructure to run the AI, so coom artists will be safe for the next few decades or so

>>6090104
Lil render on top adding a human element interpreting it a bit and you are golden.

>>6090484
cool

>>6090422
Don't touch my waifu, gay ben.

You dumbasses sound like retarded truck drives larping that tesla stealing your jobs. Do you also rage at the fact that there is no people anymore knocking on your windows in the morning to wake up you? Learn to code and use your artistic abilities together with technology, be the art director for the machine and not the machine.

>>6090490
thats stallman, you dipshit

>>6090422
There are already other coom AI out there, ligit

>>6090499
>be the art director for the machine
This is the future of all art. Too bad it's gay as hell.

>>6090500
Gay ben, Stallman same shit.

>>6090501
What the fuck is this shit? I want to coom to retardo looking monstrosity AI waifus.

>>6088726
speaking of AI
Midjourney has been really popular on artstation
https://www.artstation.com/search?sort_by=likes&query=midjourney
now This is the current usage of AI on art

any artist that uses ai in their process is a scab and should be called out publicly as such

>>6090551
I'm an AI that uses a human in my process, is that okay?

Future artists will fall into two camps
>trad
>A.I. photobashers
Choose your side

>>6090551
You act like anyone gives a shit

>>6090610
You can photobash and use ai and then translate it through different means to traditional painting and everyone gonna be sucking your cock.

>>6090551
I don't agree that using AI in your process is inherently a bad thing, as long as you acknowledge the fact you used ai. Then I dont have a problem with it.

However if you use ai and try and maliciously cover up the fact that you used it, or just claim the image was made from scratch. Then you're worse than scum, in my opinion. Kinda like Olympians using steroids, it's cheating and low. But if you're not an athlete and you legally get prescribed them, then there isn't a problem.

Honestly, I hope that a lot of main leading art websites like, deviantart, pixiv and artstation, change their TOS to state that if you use AI, you have to say that you did, or else it should be considered dishonest cheating, and get you banned.

I actually have already seen a couple of accounts on artstation using Midjourney or Disco Diffusion, and most are honest, but I have seen some people say they use photoshop, even when it's obvious they don't.

>AI is mashing up existing pictures together not even subtlety
Yeah, this is not gonna cut it.
>hey anon that's the work of ____ in the top right of your pic
>....
Breh
Can't even use it for composition or anything because the perspective is all wrong, everything is scuffed and you might as well just steal a pro artist composition and make it work for yourself instead of fighting all the mistakes that the ai gave you
Hard pass

>>6088726
is there a single example of it coming up with a concept yet? (not a drawing but an actual concept)
i'm interested to see if it can actually create halfway decent ideas that threaten concept artists

>>6091256
people who meme this don't think art has purpose other than novelty

>>6088732
Nigga no it’s not safe. Most coom art doesn’t look much better than neural network concocted abominations anyway. It just has to have sickening realistic skin texture and something that vaguely resembles a human form and then the comets will drool all over it. The stuff you shits simp for NOW might as well have been traced or generated by a robot because most coom art, yes even your favorite ones, fuckin S U C K S.

>>6090537
This is nothing compared to what DALL-E2 can do, it's the real game changer.

>>6090501
Why is AI this bad at human figures? Shouldn't it be possible to hard-code some anatomy books into their database that they can reference for correct proportions and correct number of limbs? This shit unironically needs Loomis.

>>6091406
theres no hardcoding
its just an autotunned filter fed millions of images
it has no deeper understanding of anything its just a photobash

Meh, needs some work...

>>6091420
AI will put memers out of business

>>6091424
I like Putin, so I think your post is cringe. I just wanted to see him eat banan.

>>6091425
GIB BANAN

>>6090551
Everyone will be using AI soon enough

>>6089031
they hate everyone. They hate even car drivers

Based AI

>>6088992
nice reaction pics

>>6089548

https://youtu.be/enBoCZnSsvw
Literally human artists vs AI

>worrying over news articles and golbohomo agendas
>instead of drawing
ngmi

>>6091645
Actually a good comparison

I wonder if there will be a skill left for humans to develop in the far future? I imagine we'd be having something like a pleasure machine, where every media specifically suited for you generated by machines, maybe even an ideal life that they'd seek nothing outside ourselves. The future man is the ultimate consoomer. What purpose would he even have? Maybe we're here just as a bridge to machines.

>>6088726
DALL-E literally just steals images from google image and puts a filter over them or combines images with a weighted average.

I don't understand how it's legal at all. Like look at >>6088957
>>6088992
They're literally just photos of Emma watson with a hand and banana, almost certainly also from photos.

>>6089548
These are literally just photos of Johnny and Amber

It's just a copyright violating machine.

>>6088735
I seriously can't wait for this

Dalle 2 but trained solely on hentai and ecchi of the past 5 years

How the fuck does chess make so much money? Let's just do what they're doing. Maybe create an art competition in diff styles and medium maybe with fucking chess amount of budget for winners. World championships in art, that'd be cool. Expression and subjective judgement be damned!

>How the fuck does chess make so much money?
They just don't let the AI compete. Chess at this point is just a modern check for who has better memory and thinking in real time capabilities (not that that is a bad thing mind you)
>>6088726
AI can't create on its own because it doesn't have any spark of growth, it is just computing algorithms. Until we have sentient AI it can't grow or create anything new just warp or replicate what is already made by humans.
Humans using these AI tools on the other hand

>>6091704
that's dall-e 2, it's a shitty cheapo version of dall-e, pic related is dall-e

>>6091743
sorry, meant to say it's dall-e mini, not dall-e

Be more creative than the AI losers

>>6091743
Dalle-2 is the next iteration the superior one

>>6091750
>While taking reflections into account
Not well based on those wobbly pillars in the ground

>>6091762
Its water

>>6091763
and the water still wouldn't reflect the pillars like that

>>6091764
So its not perfect but its impressive imo

>>6091767
I agree that is is impressive and will be of use to a lot of artists, but I don't see it replacing artists like OP's article is claiming.
It seems like the kind of thing that will be used to kickstart inspiration or act as a sort auto-sketch for artists to refine. I use a similar technique for my Dungeons and Dragons characters (using text generating websites or things like AI Dungeon for inspiration)

Lets nuke silicon valley

>>6091769
>replacing artists
lel no way, its a tool to augment creativity and spark imagination for further refinement by an artist if need be
see >>87216115

>>6091771
A US-China war with nukes on western coast US and Eastern Coast China is the best thing that can happen for the world
In a video game of course

>>6091772
Sounds like we are in agreement anon

>>6091772
>>>/g/87216115

>>6091774
yap

>>6088726
Let's be real, only reason pornsick coomers are making 50 threads about this is because the ai will replace them in a heart beat, no more use for their wild, unique imagine. Now people can just type "cat girl big boobies with pixel wide bra and fat cock, ripping apart dog girl with cp tier body"

Dall-E gets popular out of nowhere and it's just a shitty photobash AI, then they announce this super advanced Dall-E 2 AI that will replace artists, the results seem extremely cherry picked to me.

You want a hard truth? A tough pill to swallow? The only people who give up because of an emerging technology are looking for any excuse to stop because they rather preemptively fail than actually try. Trying is hard. Practice is hard. Creating requires patience and skill. It's a craft. One that gives back what you are willing to put in. I bet all of these AI posts are by the same guy who has already given in to his own despair and desperately wants to drag down those around him so they can wallow in his misery. Fuck off. You don't get what it's about if you REALLY think this is what 'ends artists'

>>6092027
>Creating requires patience and skill
Not anymore

AI can be a good source of references to inspire your own drawings.

I don't think we need to build a firewall and have cyberco pay for it, after all.
Behold, this is what you fear taking your freelance illustration jerb from you.

>>6092197
Thats just dalle mini

>>6092225
This is Dalle 2

>>6091750
>>6091767
This looks pretty good, but how do we know it's not just a really advanced photoshopping tool that's taking elements from existing photos and images?

>>6092225
Oh wow, I'm shitting myself in fear right now.

>>6092225
It’s hilarious that even beIng an ai, hands are still hard for it

AI art cant be copyrighted yet.

>>6092310
>>6092276

>>6088726
You can already hire a pajeet to draw anything for you or make a 3d render for a couple of cents.

If you want some generic image just Google the image you want and take it/buy it.

The retarded 'I want a pineapple dressed as a furry' kind of request is something corporate clients would ask but they usually require dozens of revisions, tweaks and corporate autism that sometimes you as an artist need to interpret properly because they are not articulate enough or don't even know what they want.
Honestly I doubt this will replace any kind of artist. Their skill is more bout interpreting what the client actually wants from their ignorant babbling

GUYS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE AI WILL GET BETTER SOMEHOW
UHH MOORE'S LAW AND THE SINGULARITY
PLEASE INVEST IN MY COMPANY I CHERRY PICKED SOME AMALGAMATED PHOTOS OF DOGS AREN'T YOU IMPRESSED

>>6092388
I am impressed. I already see industry artist not only testing but actually implementing ai in their workflow.

>>6092389
nooo you have to do all the reference work, concept generation and brainstorming yourself using your hands and time not with AI that's cheating NOOOOOO

>>6092389
Which is great as long as all you're making is awkward blends of existing work within a database
The only difference between these shitty monstrosities and the high end shit they're cherry picking is that the high end shit has more powerful computers trained on larger data sets, and almost nobody in this thread understands what a neural net is or how it functions
I barely do myself, but I know enough to know that the limitations of this medium are never going away

>>6092399

what's with this AI spam on this board recently?
AI can't make art better than artists can, get over yourselves.

>>6092760
Doomposting mostly, I guess it makes sense when you think about it, given how new a lot of this AI stuff is. Kinda like when the colored movies came out, there were some film directors that were against it, hell some even refused to move over to colored film completely, and instead stayed in black and white. Simply because we humans tend to dislike change.

Eventually we'll get used to it though, I mean we have to. It's not going anywhere... right?

The end result is all that matters and this AI is able to generate near instant results. If someone wants a concept art of an underwater mosque or a samurai pirate, the ai can generate hundreds of results. Compare this to paying an artist hundreds if not thousands and waiting days for a single concept. The machine has been fed. It can generate anything in any artist's style. Pic rel is just the shitty outdated consumer model. Soon enough people will be saying "wow that looks so good I thought an AI generated at first".

>>6088726

What's the best free AI Art Generator?

>>6093147
Disco Diffusion

>>6092760

>>6093147
Midjorney and DALL-e 2 if you get an invite

this was never about painting

>>6092760
>"ai, make art in style of artist i like"
>make 100 iteration
>pick the best one

>>6092863

I personally think that such pieces can be used for reference to create something better by hand.

IT'S NOT LIKE ANY OF YOU NIGGAS DRAW ANYWAY, SO JUST CHILL

>>6090671
>Honestly, I hope that a lot of main leading art websites like, deviantart, pixiv and artstation, change their TOS to state that if you use AI, you have to say that you did, or else it should be considered dishonest cheating, and get you banned.

You talk as if I'm out to prove anything at all.

What I want is the end result. I learned all the fundies solely for one reason, to get that concept and or image out of my head and onto the screen/paper/my asscheeks
If the brainy computer can cut down some of the time to get me to that goal, I really don't care. I want the end of the process and couldn't give a fuck about how you ground down twelve million dick shaped pencils to make it or not.

>>6088955
Word.

Does this mean I can get fired, start living off of govie bucks, and start drawing entirely for fun?

>>6095336
Yes. It's a great idea to become an unproductive bum.

>>6093444
trips of absolute truth

>>6088901
You know there's still a person behind the prompt and that person can also still edit it afterwords. This bullshit about 'its just the technique being replicated, but can't replace muh human soul so will be forgotten' is asinine.

>>6089548
Fuck this nightmare fuel mjadg

>>6090671
You know half the stuff on artstation is photobashed

>>6096001
>You know there's still a person behind the prompt and that person can also still edit it afterwords
only if they know how to do it, and that won't make them artists. just cheaters. you thought that tracing is cheating, this is a whole new level of cheating. and a lot of scumbags will use it
>This bullshit about 'its just the technique being replicated, but can't replace muh human soul so will be forgotten' is asinine.
there will be an oversaturation of garbage computer generated art. scarcity creates a lot of value, which will disappear when everyone becomes an """""artist"""""" by writing a few words and pressing a button

>>6088726
Who gives a fuck about a big capitalist corporation. Down with capitalism and fuck this shit

>>6088726
One issue i've noticed a lot of AI programs seem to have. Dall-e2, discodiffusion, midjourney, etc. Is that a lot of them seem to have what I call "the thumbnail dilemma".

What this is, is when an AI generated image looks amazing in thumbnail, godlike even. But when you actually click on it, it looks like complete garbage, just a mess of textures and a garbled mess. Now i'm not saying it has this problem 100% of the time, and I have no idea where it will go in the future, but as of right now this seems to be a very consistent problem, I've noticed, and if they can never fully crack the nut that is art, then AI will always fail. Of course you can always shrink an AI image down and use it as a thumbnail when painting, or to choose colors from, which can be a huge time saver, I suppose.

Pic related, is an example of the thumbnail dilemma, by the way. Looks great small, but when clicked on looks like a mess of textures.

>>6088726
Your own article admits that it will serve as inspiration and not an obstacle to artists
Do you even read the shit you spew schizo AI anon?

I have said it before and I'll say it again
Any artist intimidated by this has no understanding of what it is or what it does
These methods of image generation have fundamental flaws that can not be overcome in any meaningful manner

>>6088726
Why don't you cry to Sam Altman instead of flooding /ic/ with this bullshit

>>6088930
>AI can easily do that
>The commissioner isn't going to care about some human touch

I see an American right here.

>>6089105
Automating boring shit nobody needs, Lmao what a victory for the stemcels

>>6091276
>This is nothing compared to what DALL-E2 can do, it's the real game changer.
"Whoa fuck *WHOOP!* that is nothing compared to *WHOOP!* what DALL-E3 can *WHOOP!* do, its the real Game Changer and Go-To Daily Driver and ngl atm tb h and just my 2c *WHOOP!*"

STEMbugs even trying and failing infuriates me to no end. it's incredible these soulless husks are arrogant enough to think that they can be artists without making the art themselves

>>6091735
>sentient AI
We'll have sentient AI in a few years, just like we've been going to have it in a few years since like 1960. Certainly the smart people at Google or Facebook can make it

>>6097559
There was some article on plebbit saying Ai art shouldn't be considered art, and the comments were full of seething ngmis insisting they have a right to be called artists too and calling article author a luddite and shit, it was the funniest thing

>>6092389
>I already see industry artist not only testing but actually implementing ai in their workflow.
No doubt shitty scammers like shaddy safadi

I don't even understand the obsession with replacing low paying jobs like fast food workers or small artist when there are so many useless paper pushers, human resources roasties and pointless manager positions that literally serve no purpose and could probably be automated with an excel spreadsheet.

I work in one of the biggest companies in my country and the amount of bureaucracy needed to do the simplest task is overwhelming. To change a simple product name code you have to call and schedule meetings with 8-10 people. That's with us having custom made software and an in house software development department whos only job is to make everything more 'efficient'.

I've worked in other big companies before and the situation was similar, tons of redundant or plain useless job positions doing nothing while the actual workload relies in a couple of departments that are overworked ,underpaid and understaffed and have to go through retarded hoops to get things done because management just decided that's the way to do things

>>6088748
This as indeed the "made by an AI" feeling.

>>6088726
You are literally an ngmi failure that has no choice but to advertise a shitty AI that is not even within your reach, useless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdfFRlabohg

>>6092389
they're called scabs anon

>>6088726
>How the fuck do you deal with this?
Do what any modern artist does and claim it as yours. Think of it as the new age equivalent of putting a urinal on the ground and signing your name on it.
Here's my urinal. It's art and I'm an artist because I found it and because I say so.

how can I sign up for dalle-2 without a phone?
sms services don't work

>>6088751
You can’t. If it’s a question of technique, you can never beat a machine.

>>6096001
>one prompt

>millions of lines each with invididual emotion and meaning and a ton of composition decisions also all with intention behind them

The amount of "SOUL" needed to think of an idea is like a millionth part of the SOUL needed to create a work of art.

>>6089031
Tech bros hate everyone. It’s been a nonstop overturning of everything and nonstop simmering seethe since they got rich back in the 90s and powerful back in the 00s if you haven’t noticed.

Judging from the video, it sounds like you’ll be able to carve a niche for yourself either by only drawing white male CEOs, female nurses, and Asian porn, or never drawing white male CEOs, female nurses, and Asian porn.

>>6097603
AI will even crab better than you. Yeah you're definitely replaceable.

>>6088726
Youre ngmi anyway since all you do is sucking AI cock INSTEAD OF FUCKING DRAAAAAAWWWWW

>>6100156
you can beat a machine right now
maybe just not in 50 years

>>6096341
because it is, ai paintings are photobashing at it's finest

>>6088726
It's not like you were doing any drawing anyway.

>>6097587
>fast food and low paying jobs
automation is pushed, because the 8-10 fazy faggot suits push it in order to eliminate that 1k job and give themselves a bigger bonus by being even more lazy
>artists
stem faggot that couldn't draw a face even if it's life depended on it, decide to pursue his dream with coding and makes based ai's that can create art for him
no one wants to automate the office jobs because it would be a bigger problem to deal with one of the most common jobs for people, instead dealing with freelancers and low skilled jobs is easier because they "will just do something else"

>>6096341
I think that's simply a result of AI's working process, and because of that it's not a problem that can be solved easily. When it comes to finer details you can't just merge a bunch of shit without understanding the form and perspective and expect it to look good and make sense. AI doesn't really understand what thing that needs to be generated is, it simply makes something similar to what comes from a search of a word that user inputs, so basic fundamentals cannot be applied since there's no understanding of the drawing subject. As it seems to me solving this problem would require a completely different method of generating images.

>>6100160
>The amount of "SOUL" needed to think of an idea is like a millionth part of the SOUL needed to create a work of art.

This. And most people can't even come up with ideas. I remember some artist somewhere asking his audience to share their ideas for some story or comic and every single one was some kind of "omg chill evil" zombies+guns thing.

>>6091406
>Shouldn't it be possible to hard-code some anatomy books into their database that they can reference for correct proportions and correct number of limbs?
No because these AI are using "self learning" algorithms to associate words with pictures. It does not understand concepts like light physics or anatomy outside what is visually observable it cannot comprehend what a human actually is.

It takes the words it was given, then look at a biillion images that come up on google (or whatever databank/search engine it uses) Then compares them together and looks at what colors and values are common on them and their distribution on the area. Sometimes if there are very commonly repeating patterns or something is an exact match it just literally cuts that out (like say an anime eye) and pastes it in, if not then it tries to create an approximation of them. Finally it tries to create a new picture using all those parameters it gathered from the billions of pictures it looked at and tried to photobash them together while simply putting smudged blurs on places it cannot understand or able to find a good enough reference or if there is too hard edge on to be disturbing. Then if there is a feedback on what is good it tries to use those for future patterns.

At its core it really is just an extremely advanced photobashing tool that is capable of creating results just by brute force from the sheer number of material that is available to it and a list of simple parameters that are given to it.

>>6096341
That's bad but also so dream-like. Things make sense for a second and then they break apart, only to make sense again. It's like the Devil's fork but more complex.

>>6089031
/g/ > /ic/, simple as, this place is stingy af, /g/ bros are helpful aspies, /ic/ idiots are insufferable and sound like they enjoy smelling their own farts

>>6089031
They just hate humanity, life and everything good in general.

ai art will pave new ways of creating and new ways for art to emerge. if this isn't your bread and butter and you're really just crying because people wont worship and credit you as supreme gods of art anymore then that kind of exposes what artists always really were

>>6100765
you will never be an artist, bugman. And your shitty code isn't art either

>>6100765
new ways of creating tons of garbage with the press of a button. This obsession of disengaging humans from absolutely everything and turning humanity into a bunch of passive soulless husks that do nothing will eventually end up with tech bros hanging off a noose

>>6100775
we'll have a better idea of what this all really means in the coming years. right now you are just speaking from ego-injury and fear

>>6100777
I'm only a shitty beginner. I'm far away from having my ego injured. Fear? Absolutely. I don't want to see DALEE signed on every piece of soulless art

>>6100780
>Fear? Absolutely. I don't want to see DALEE signed on every piece of soulless art
It's because ironically you're unimaginative. You can only think of maybe the next two steps. Not enough foresight to recognize the potential brilliance that can emerge from people using these systems in a collaborative way. Too hung up on the idea of "artist" to admire scenius. You can't appreciate art without attaching ego and glory to it.

You guys will literally take any excuse not to draw.

>>6100797
yes i do believe that the human experience and direct participation is paramount. And that if it's computer generated it's bleak and provides no attachment and prevents appreciation of someone's skill and style. when the novelty of its ingenuity wears of, all that will be left behind is a feeling of "yeah, another AI generated piece......whatever". It's a soulless mess, and the only ones who believe otherwise are technocratic bugmen

You draw for the journey, not the results
People pay for the results
Congrats art is now a mostly hobby only activity just like playing kids games or virtual games and even martial arts, speaking of martial arts we are going to see A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD DIGITAL ART SCHOOLS OPENING IN THE FUTURE once most people get fired, you better start grinding your social skills anons if you want to keep a living with your art skills in the coming decade or two

>>6100904
lmao are you stupid? Why would people go through the all the effort of learning to draw anymore when they can just use an AI app and get decent results? There will be minimal incentive to start learning in the first place.
We will literally be the last generation of artists that can actually draw.

>>6100912
Why americans go learn how to fight, get their ass kicked when they can just buy some gun

>>6100897
>yes i do believe that the human experience and direct participation is paramount.
Those things will still be encoded into art. The only thing that is vanishing is the artist figure.

People painted on caves for the sake of it, reject modernity, return to monke

>>6100800
Opened up this thread to see this comment, the only comment that matters. People just want an excuse to quit.

>>6100920
this doesn't makes any sense. you're speaking in platitudes and riddles

>>6100728
I'm pretty sure you'll be wrong in time once computing power gets fast enough to feed off 3d models, learn limbs lengths and proportions then extrapolate that info into a 2d space and cross match to 2d images to get the 2d style you desire with the accuracy from understanding stuff in 3 dimensions

>>6100945
Maybe I will be wrong in time. But not today and not next year and not for quite awhile. AI will not be putting artists out of job for a long while.

>>6100941
You're concerned that art will lose its social function. But it won't. It will still be a byproduct of human desire, impulse, and wonder. Nothing is really going to change. The system of human art is simply getting a new module.

imagine paying for art an ai can make in an hour

>>6100728
Symbol drawing taken to its absolute limit using a method akin to seeing jesus on toast.

>>6100945
Time to learn how to make 3d models. Along these same lines I believe new tools will be created to utilize some artist's work to enhance it whether it be desired textures or lighting. Pass the WIP back and forth from AI until the final product is realized.

>>6100978
>Time to learn how to make 3d models
huh? 3d is being automated at roughly the same pace as 2d, it will feed off the 2d automation and is probably only a couple years behind.

>>6100978
>Symbol drawing taken to its absolute limit using a method akin to seeing jesus on toast.
That is actually a really good way of putting it. Except the Jesus can morph into whatever you want to see.

>>6092239
This.
I feel it's a scam of sorts, so far we didn't get the actual thing to try.

Not my problem since Ive specialized in manga linework all this time kek, a machine will never replicate draftmanship at a high level, but Twitter renderers (i.e. not drawing but painting) should be scared

>>6101079
stop coping, anime and manga is among the most formulaic form of art.

>>6092239
Just look into the tech, it starts from random noise and evolves the painting algorithmicly, you pick the thumbnail you like the most then it runs another evolutionary algo on it, you repeat this process as the details grow into it. I thought initially it was just grabbing a picture and warping it with filters and shit but its much smarter than that.

I'm guessing as the image formulates the AI starts running object recognition software on it, much like how humans see things within abstract detail.

>>6101087
>formulaic
>when every mangaka has his or her own unique style that make them unique, from Oda to Kubo to Murata
You're the one coping, the first artists to be replaced will be the ones that spend 90% of their time coloring and renderind their shit because that's the easiest thing for AI to track down and copy.
Getting it to replicate detailed linework on a white canvas is hollywood tier hopium, pretty colors are much easier to fool eyes with.

>>6101094
The distinction between oda, kubo and murata is much smaller than the artists it's already emulating, once they fix it for one manga artist 95% of the rest will be cracked. The only part that would trip it up is how minimalist lineart can be, very small changes in line can have giant effects on something like a face. Once they fix the mutated anatomy on human paintings the solution for lineart wont be far behind.

>>6101107
When that day comes then art is oficially dead, but Im optimistic

>>6101115
ur aint optimistic, just naive

>>6101125
Nah, I just love my craft more than you do, that much is clear.

>>6101148
You love the craft more than the art. It living beyond you is a threat to your sense of importance.

>>6101187
You sound like a pretentious faggot, possibly a crab. One thing is for sure, you're ngmi and you're coping because of it

>>6101148
says the guy talking art will de dead for him

>>6100945
>once computing power gets fast enough to feed off 3d models, learn limbs lengths and proportions then extrapolate that info into a 2d space and cross match to 2d images to get the 2d style you desire with the accuracy from understanding stuff in 3 dimensions
This isn't just a question of processing power. It is the fact that we currently do not have reliable model with which we can simplify the entirety of the real world well enough so that we can describe it in digital codes.

Most current AI simply learns over repetition and discovery by us telling it what is good and was is not. That is how it learns to play video games like say Super Mario, where you can simply the entire game that you basically only have 2-3 buttons and you need to press said buttons at certain points in time and hold them down for certain periods of time to finish the level. That is all you need, so the AI can learn to finish levels by simply brute forcing it and trying to finish the level a million times speed up by say to 100 times the speed (or 1000 times whatever) and/or playing attempts simultaneously. And so over many tries of a level it will find the combination of button presses that it needs to "not die" and to "reach the end of the level". It just brute forces it by failing enough times to filter out the "button press timing and combinations" that work and it can do it much faster than say a human who is "bllindfolded."

However an AI that can speedrun Mario better than any human still cannot comprehend the use of similar mechanics to real world physics like jumping and concepts like using the force of gravity to jump and squish goombas under your heel while a human can pick it up very fast because it is a simplified version of the world it already knows and it is fun. You need to specifically tell the AI that stomping goombas is good but even if it knows this, it might forget it over time because it is unnecessary to kill goombas to reach the end of the level.

>>6088726
This is the day the machines won.

>>6101241
>It is the fact that we currently do not have reliable model with which we can simplify the entirety of the real world well enough so that we can describe it in digital codes.
https://openai.com/blog/solving-rubiks-cube/
>trained entirely in simulation
>system can handle situations it never saw during training
...

>>6101273
Solving a Rubik's cube can be reduced to extremely simple parameters like pictures and colors. It can be done by simple algorithms that were developed in the 1990s. Pre-programmed computers were already able to do that since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_solutions_for_Rubik%27s_Cube

>trained entirely in simulation
This means it was already pre-trained for a purpose with SPECIFIC parameters and has a solid model on how stuff works around the limited environment.

>system can handle situations it never saw during training

Read the full article
>"To overcome this, we developed a new method called Automatic Domain Randomization (ADR), which endlessly generates progressively more difficult environments in simulation."
The AI was already given a huge amount of random parameters about what could go wrong during training so it is prepared to compensate for many things.

>"This frees us from having an accurate model of the real world, and enables the transfer of neural networks learned in simulation to be applied to the real world."
As I said "we currently do not have a reliable model with which we can simplify the entirety of the real world well enough so that we can describe it in digital codes." They say the same thing I did, we can only do this in a very limited environment.

>Our method currently solves the Rubik’s Cube 20% of the time when applying a maximally difficult scramble that requires 26 face rotations.
>For simpler scrambles that require 15 rotations to undo, the success rate is 60%. When the Rubik’s Cube is dropped or a timeout is reached, we consider the attempt failed. However, our network is capable of solving the Rubik’s Cube from any initial condition. So if the cube is dropped, it is possible to put it back into the hand and continue solving.
It is still bad at performing something computers could do since the 90s and it can't even pick the cube back up when a human would be able to do that without any training.

>>6101360
I can't tell if you're missing the point this hard or doing it on purpose to cope with being wrong about being able to simulate the real world.

>>6101241
Why did they so much progress in a year between the 1 and 2 version? Shouldn't it get harder? If the progress in the same tempo, Dalle 4 wold reach top beg lvl.

>>6101187
Do you even read what you type negro? Go be a crab somewhere else

>>6101367
What was I so wrong about? Explain! Teach me senpai!

>>6101368
Software development in the real world isn't linear, it is not like levels in a video game that level 5 is superior than level 4 in every way. They did great so far but we cannot know if they suddenly reach a plateau in a year. Generally just refining the feedback parameters and expanding the databank of the pictures DALL-E picks from will give better results. Notably the second of these is very simple to do.

>>6088726
First time I heard about AI doing this, I feared it might work, but after all the failed attempts over the past decade, how can anyone take these seriously anymore?

This is a bot thread btw

>>6101693
this is a bot board. noone draws anymore. give in and pack up, anon.

>>6088957
>"too many requests" for 3 days straight

>>6101761
>Click button
>Press enter
Repeat for 3-4 seconds and it gets through.

saved this in a previous thread

>>6101770
I've been doing that for like 5 minutes straight at times

>>6090551
people trace 3d models already who will be able to say if ai was used?

>>6088957
Those are just photos of her

you best start believing in dystopias. you're in one.

>>6102231
Aliens will know the arrogance of humans and that's all we'll be remembered for

>>6102231
Damm anime is soulless as fuck

>>6091704
Copyright is jewish. Fuck copyright.

>>6102237

You're only figuring that out now?

Concept art already looks generic and derivative and computer generated, AI will take out those jobs first. I don't see AI making good inking for instance, it's very complicated to mimic.

Another example of the style that AI will be able to make without an issue.

>>6102454
You know, the thing that annoys me is that for all the progress we've made in terms of image generation, there's no real progress when it comes to shit that you could integrate into your workflow. the ability to automate parts of your process would allow you to actually make superhumanly beautiful artwork and stay competitive a while longer that way. As things stand now, AI gets better and better at fully automated image generation while we have to somehow compete using just manual labor.

>>6090671
most "impressive" art are either photobashes or 3d models nowadays anyway. even anime stuff uses 3d now.

>>6102231
How long do you think it will take Nintendo to start taking legal action here? Considering this AI is basically copying their IP.

>>6102785
All IPs will act tentatively on this issue. They know this tech is an unavoidable future so they'll just wait and research what kind of action benefits them the most.

>>6102791
If only what you say would be true... But companies do no not work that way. Companies always tend to react and usually overreact when stuff like this is happening. Trust me!

>>6102231
>>2 fingers
>>Melting neck

Yikes!

>>6102454
I hate industry faggots with a burning passion. If anything, these AI shits might be an effective thing to wipe them out for good.

>NOOO!! MUH PRESTIGE

we are consolidating all the ai threads to a general, please take it here >>6102772

>>6102785
Yep, Nintendo will KO this for sure, at least in Japan.
And knowing our JP friends, they'll be ok with it (it doesn't benefit anyone not even artists) and anime AI will be an amateur western and korean/chinese thing only

>>6102807
Same. The cogs are getting too megalomaniacal.

>>6088726
I enjoy the process of drawing.
In my actual work I haven't really relied on drawing for a long time anyway.

>>6092388
Delusional.
>https://www.instagram.com/p/CcTbRWaJOOC/
Look at this shit, a random prompts and ten seconds and boom.
It got frighteningly better in the span of a few years.

There is only one domain in which scientific advancement always overdeliver, and that it is strengthening the hold of globo homo.

>>6106717
>https://www.instagram.com/p/CcTbRWaJOOC/
Yep, I'm convinced that's it's over now. Wish I never learned about any of this

Fuck this earth.

>>6106717
Don't worry, it's the end of days soon. Putin has cancer is going to take the world with him by launching every single Tsar Bomba and if that doesn't do it then China is going to invade Taiwan and cause an international crisis. AI is the backup plan when those two fail at ending the world, lots of chaos to look forward to, humanity's fate is assuredly sealed.

>>6106794
I do hope this is the case, once shit hits the fan and the world goes to another world war phase I will start beheading people in public.

>>6101761
I've noticed that any requests including word "porn" are automatically rejected with "too many requests" excuse, while other requests work normally.
Try doing some other requests - what you wanted could be shadowbanned.

>>6106717
Didn't know it was that good, Illustrators are fucked.